It's beyond me why some continue to hate on Ray. The guy is at the top of the game and is a great fit for Korn. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Korn is quite lucky to have him...not the other way around. For you die-hard Silveria fans who think he invented drumming? Educate yourself about life "behind the kit". Would you rather Korn split up after David left? Come on...we're aren't talking about Zepplin and Bonham here.
I used to love Korn, their latest stuff not so much.. I think this guy really caught the "way" Korn sounded like and put some life again in those old songs. Plus, not only does his drumming sound good, it also looks good, this guy's a beast!
Yes, he added boredom, unnecessary fills, lack of knowledge about the band's proper music language/sound and flashy tricks with the drum sticks, to impress the ladies and/or easily impressionable dudes. Korn music, didn't need any of these things. Ah, and he also talked shit in public (without having any real beef), about the person that was doing the job that he got , before him. You know, the person that was a massive responsable for Korn success, and responsable for creating and playing drums in Korn's best albuns to date. So why the hell David would wanted to hold Ray's drum sticks, when his work (the music that he created, that is the most important thing) with Korn speaks for itself?
Nothing wrong with david silveria, but honestly Ray is literally 1000x better than david. He's more technical, more musically intelligent, more creative, and wayyyyy more entertaining behind the kit.
Nothing wrong at all! But David was"just"the man behind the kit who came with the awesome drum beats on their most famous and probably better albums and a massive part of the band unique sound when they started. If they are a"big act"today they own it a big part to Silveria unique aproach on drums. Ray is way more complete drummer than David for sure, but in music (in art) that dosen't mean that the final result will be better.
So funny, you go to a David video everyone's like "hail David, fuck Ray," you go to a Ray video everyone's like "hail Ray, fuck David." I think David was super important to the Korn sound and they haven't been the same since he left with his creativity and grove! I don't really mean "fuck Ray," he is obviously a talented drummer but less interesting... if Korn ever has a chance of re-igniting the original spark it won't be with him.
@@officialmetalwill What is a joke and completely irrelavant is your comment. You probably know Korn because of Dave's work, not Ray's, David drumming and work with Korn speaks for itself! He was an influence to "thousands" of other drummers. His style, sound and unique approach, were something fresh and "groundbreaking back in days. His creativity, drum beats, power and groove were unmatched. Something that you or anyone will never say about Ray's drumming. This isn't about popularity. The music he did with Korn, was the best and more interesting music the band ever made! And that is also why the majority of songs on every setlist when they play live consists of "old songs" (David songs), although at this point Ray has more years of Korn than David and almost the same amount of albuns. Facts. "Ray is a better drummer". Maybe, still that is also "completely irrelevant". Dosen't mean shit. This isn't about "how many techniques do "you" know. Music isn't about that, and better, Korn music sure isn't about that. Ray got no style or language use, that he can call his own, his drumming is blant, his drumming choices don't fit on Korn music (especially on old songs) and the fact that he was from a diferent music world just proves what I said. Is so much better than David, like you're saying, yet he's been copying David's style and approach for years.
I can't stop watching this, one of my favorite drummers :) my inspiration :) keep watching again and again :) Can't get enough of his great drumming :)
I started enjoying Korn music since they emerged 24 years ago and never even noticed they changed drummers. I just dig the songs. I don't real CD liners. I don't read articles or interviews or press releases about the Korn band. I noticed his skills when he did the KXM project. He's a fucking animal. His timing is incredible.
People hate on Ray because they are old school and stuck in their ways......no to change!!! I'm not hating on Silveria, but he was a bit 2 dimensional! Ray opens Korn right up to new stuff, giving different layers to things Korn would never have done before. He also gives some life to a live gig! It's called personality!!
I got nothing against Ray and i'm old school as i know Korn since 1994.. He seems a great person and his drums skills are just amazing,that's for sure. Now,you calling David 2 dimensional,and i say he was probably the best musician in Korn back then. A big big part in their unique sound when they came. His"frame"of drumming is smaller than Ray but was perfect to Korn's sound. Those choices in druminmg separate Korn from many others band. Korn was never about technical stuff and big fills,it was about the groove. And the groove that David provides to the band was unique. Besides all that,their best albuns are with David on drums.
This dude is way too good for Korn, but then again if I got offered the job I`d take it too lol, and I find he has made the whole band alot better with their riff writing skills jamming with this guy. I also totally dig his attack on all these 300bpm kick and tom roll (one trick pony) drummers nowadays with NO groove and soul, I hear ya!. I give this video a thumbs up.
He's so refreshing, I've been discovering metal drumming recently through youtube, and it's 99% blast beat, weird 300bpm double foot (with creepy ankle movements) and all muscle. No dynamics, groove, inventiveness. Finding the new Korn drummer has literally stopped me from just declaring that modern metal drumming stinks, and going back to what I play.
I get your point,but not everyone wants to play with Britney or are in the music for making money. Some types of music need to be 300bpm all the way and the groove is just in that,is just part of the expression and what the music needs. But like everything,there's good blastbeaters and not so good blastbeaters. And yes, Ray is way to good for Korn.
+Talonpelt SoxFan You judge that on what music writing or the flashy stuff is doing that does nothing for the music,lots of fills for no particular reasons David Silveria was playing for the songs,See you on the Other Side is a pretty fucking good album for David Silveria with lots of fills and double bass like Ray.....pretty sure u dont know that album lol And i love Ray as a drummer,but who cares with the competion stuff
+badcrowJC I own all of their albums, and trust me I don't think that the fills are unnecessary. But I do think Ray is more technically advanced. Listen to David when he does the double bass on one; he's not quite on beat.
David Silveria. The man behind the kit on their best albuns,a big part of their unique sound when they came and also responsable for their mass sucess the band have today. That David.
@@andrepereira744 Perhaps David was the better drummer for Korn, but Ray is most definitely the better overall drummer. Plus, he brought a lot of much needed soberness to the band. The fact that Ray has never touched a drug in his life is really inspiring.
If he's so badd ass how come you haven't heard from him or in another band besides from Korn..Slash was in GNR and Velvet Revolver and still had on the Miles Kennedy. And some..
Regarding this whole David v Ray debate...there's no doubt ray is technically gifted but NOBODY hit harder than silveria....just watch some of those indigo ranch sessions from '96. That dude was an animal plus who do think composed everything played in this video...David did.
When people keep on about David silvera and how they want him to come back makes me laugh, yes he was great in korn but the fact is he left them because he started to believe he was bigger than korn and they couldn't survive with out him, all the sly stuff he said about the guys and all the times he taken them to court etc etc it's no wonder the guys don't want him in the band, at the end of the day they now have not only a absolutely brilliant drummer but they also have a dude they can work with and he isn't a complete deva like silvera was, Personally I think Ray is the better drummer of the two but also he's given the band a new lease of life and it shows, I'm glad Ray is the drummer of korn and I bet he's going to be the last drummer of korn the guys like him and he has become a true member of the band.
this guy is an EXCELLENT drummer !!! korn's very lucky to hav this guy..he's extremely creative..great to see for a change!!!
He is a very great Drummer but all LPs after the untouchable are bullshit!
well...i'm a die-hard for them till the end of time....lol
check out the new one. it aint dubstep lol
RAY L.. feared by all cymbals ......
i AGREE...RAY IS THE BEST I HAVE EVER SEEN...HE IS YOUNG AND SELF TAUGHT, DRUG FREE AND A PROFESSIONAL ALL THE TIME...!
I went to jr high and high school with Ray, got to see his very early stuff LOL he was AMAZING then... you knew he was destined for greatness!!!!
Ray is such a great drummer!
I can never get enough of Ray. He just has it all.
holy shit he's amazing...
Jesus those drums sound fucking excellent
They sounded amazing on the day too - the audio was remastered from just the camera, nothing else!
+metaldrummer47 ikr,, this is not even pro recording yet
Dave Buckley
Hey man, am I allowed to reupload this video ? I'll give credit to your channel
What a super talented drummer and all around great guy. Thanks Ray!!!
Ray is a legend straight up
I am guitarist...but this man is a inspiration for any kind of musician
It's beyond me why some continue to hate on Ray. The guy is at the top of the game and is a great fit for Korn. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Korn is quite lucky to have him...not the other way around. For you die-hard Silveria fans who think he invented drumming? Educate yourself about life "behind the kit". Would you rather Korn split up after David left? Come on...we're aren't talking about Zepplin and Bonham here.
Honestly I love Ray Luzier, he's a cool, down to earth guy and amazing drummer. Definitely in my top three right next to Niel Pert and Joey Jordison.
I used to love Korn, their latest stuff not so much.. I think this guy really caught the "way" Korn sounded like and put some life again in those old songs. Plus, not only does his drumming sound good, it also looks good, this guy's a beast!
Ya ray is a fucking beast there is nothing bad about his drumming. Korn is lucky to have him.
David couldn't hold Ray's drum sticks. When Ray came into the band he added something new to their sound.
@louis mays Thats what I said. Luzier is the MAN
Yes, he added boredom, unnecessary fills, lack of knowledge about the band's proper music language/sound and flashy tricks with the drum sticks, to impress the ladies and/or easily impressionable dudes.
Korn music, didn't need any of these things.
Ah, and he also talked shit in public (without having any real beef), about the person that was doing the job that he got , before him. You know, the person that was a massive responsable for Korn success, and responsable for creating and playing drums in Korn's best albuns to date.
So why the hell David would wanted to hold Ray's drum sticks, when his work (the music that he created, that is the most important thing) with Korn speaks for itself?
Nothing wrong with david silveria, but honestly Ray is literally 1000x better than david. He's more technical, more musically intelligent, more creative, and wayyyyy more entertaining behind the kit.
Nothing wrong at all! But David was"just"the man behind the kit who came with the awesome drum beats on their most famous and probably better albums and a massive part of the band unique sound when they started. If they are a"big act"today they own it a big part to Silveria unique aproach on drums. Ray is way more complete drummer than David for sure, but in music (in art) that dosen't mean that the final result will be better.
So funny, you go to a David video everyone's like "hail David, fuck Ray," you go to a Ray video everyone's like "hail Ray, fuck David." I think David was super important to the Korn sound and they haven't been the same since he left with his creativity and grove! I don't really mean "fuck Ray," he is obviously a talented drummer but less interesting... if Korn ever has a chance of re-igniting the original spark it won't be with him.
@@andrepereira744 David is a joke compared to Ray. It doesn't matter if he played on Korn's more popular albums - that is completely irrelevant.
@@frugihoyi David isn't even 1/100th the drummer Ray is.
@@officialmetalwill What is a joke and completely irrelavant is your comment. You probably know Korn because of Dave's work, not Ray's,
David drumming and work with Korn speaks for itself! He was an influence to "thousands" of other drummers. His style, sound and unique approach, were something fresh and "groundbreaking back in days. His creativity, drum beats, power and groove were unmatched. Something that you or anyone will never say about Ray's drumming.
This isn't about popularity. The music he did with Korn, was the best and more interesting music the band ever made! And that is also why the majority of songs on every setlist when they play live consists of "old songs" (David songs), although at this point Ray has more years of Korn than David and almost the same amount of albuns. Facts.
"Ray is a better drummer". Maybe, still that is also "completely irrelevant". Dosen't mean shit. This isn't about "how many techniques do "you" know. Music isn't about that, and better, Korn music sure isn't about that.
Ray got no style or language use, that he can call his own, his drumming is blant, his drumming choices don't fit on Korn music (especially on old songs) and the fact that he was from a diferent music world just proves what I said. Is so much better than David, like you're saying, yet he's been copying David's style and approach for years.
I can't stop watching this, one of my favorite drummers :) my inspiration :) keep watching again and again :) Can't get enough of his great drumming :)
I Keep watching this over and over ! Awesome video !
SS Ray Luzier...frikin awesommm..
korn were so lucky to get this guy hes sooo good
still love your work!!
I started enjoying Korn music since they emerged 24 years ago and never even noticed they changed drummers. I just dig the songs. I don't real CD liners. I don't read articles or interviews or press releases about the Korn band. I noticed his skills when he did the KXM project. He's a fucking animal. His timing is incredible.
I fucking love this drummer from the bottom of my heart !!!!
This guy is awesome.
he has so much heart in what he does.. you can tell just by looking at him how much he enjoys playing the drums and being in KoRn of COURSE!!!!!1
great drummer. WOW
Power, precision AND soul.. he has it all!!
Those drums and cymbals sound so damn good, what a great drummer!
he is one ridiculously great drummer!
Thanks for taking the time to post this
Luzier the real deal much respect.👊
Amazing drummer
My favorite drummer in music of any kind. Saw him slay it last Sunday...AMAZING.
This drum kit sounds so good :'(
And so does Ray !
He's one of my favorites too :)
amazing .Very talented player !!!
Great drummer n video bro the man
What a performance!
I just love his mechanic-like movements, so creepy and amazing at the same time!
Just so well rounded. Those hi hat riffs sound un matched. Digging the hat work.
Ray killing it, 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Please do, it was a great show that day - he's is awesome!!
"OUTSTANDING" nuff said!
Please do, it was a great show that day - he is an amazing drummer and a real nice guy too!!
Ray is my favorite drummer of all time!!!! Saw him with Korn in Va Beach...bucket list to see him perform solo like this.
This is better than actual Korn. I could watch Ray play all day long.
Saw him live with Korn and Jonathan Davis. All the show i just watch him play. Amazing Performer :D
edit: spelling
Another great video! Awesome as usual Ray!
He is great !!!
Rayyyyyyy !!
How to use china cymbal....
He's a looooooooooot better than David Silveira!
What a MONSTER
sick, l was sad for david's leaving back then but Ray is outstanding drummer...
People hate on Ray because they are old school and stuck in their ways......no to change!!! I'm not hating on Silveria, but he was a bit 2 dimensional! Ray opens Korn right up to new stuff, giving different layers to things Korn would never have done before. He also gives some life to a live gig! It's called personality!!
I got nothing against Ray and i'm old school as i know Korn since 1994.. He seems a great person and his drums skills are just amazing,that's for sure. Now,you calling David 2 dimensional,and i say he was probably the best musician in Korn back then. A big big part in their unique sound when they came. His"frame"of drumming is smaller than Ray but was perfect to Korn's sound. Those choices in druminmg separate Korn from many others band. Korn was never about technical stuff and big fills,it was about the groove. And the groove that David provides to the band was unique. Besides all that,their best albuns are with David on drums.
POWER
I love how he plays like a percussionist more than a drummer -hes all over the width of the kit
Immense talent. Korn live have matured so well since he joined
Dude is a monster!
brutalll!!
Your masa!
I wish I had a1/4 of his talent...
One of the all time greats....
Ray has got the energy!
9:07 had it live on muse music (whole song)had no idea what dummer did it. now I know, must say I like it better. and yes old school fan of them.
Big Digs!!Cheers!!solid!!
I agree with Eddy .. 100%
...muve music
Seen Korn live in December. move hiw this guy always throws his sticks in the air like he just doesn't mind.
This dude is way too good for Korn, but then again if I got offered the job I`d take it too lol, and I find he has made the whole band alot better with their riff writing skills jamming with this guy. I also totally dig his attack on all these 300bpm kick and tom roll (one trick pony) drummers nowadays with NO groove and soul, I hear ya!. I give this video a thumbs up.
He's so refreshing, I've been discovering metal drumming recently through youtube, and it's 99% blast beat, weird 300bpm double foot (with creepy ankle movements) and all muscle. No dynamics, groove, inventiveness. Finding the new Korn drummer has literally stopped me from just declaring that modern metal drumming stinks, and going back to what I play.
I get your point,but not everyone wants to play with Britney or are in the music for making money. Some types of music need to be 300bpm all the way and the groove is just in that,is just part of the expression and what the music needs. But like everything,there's good blastbeaters and not so good blastbeaters. And yes, Ray is way to good for Korn.
this dude kicks SO MUCH ASS
Крутой!)
Great Drummer
Ten times better than David Silveira!
+Talonpelt SoxFan You judge that on what music writing or the flashy stuff is doing that does nothing for the music,lots of fills for no particular reasons David Silveria was playing for the songs,See you on the Other Side is a pretty fucking good album for David Silveria with lots of fills and double bass like Ray.....pretty sure u dont know that album lol
And i love Ray as a drummer,but who cares with the competion stuff
+badcrowJC I own all of their albums, and trust me I don't think that the fills are unnecessary. But I do think Ray is more technically advanced. Listen to David when he does the double bass on one; he's not quite on beat.
And yet,David still the best drummer for Korn.
Jérôme Cordeau there is no double bass on see you on the other side at all, and David’s not much of a player anymore
what song it's this ? at 14:30
Ever be sick!
so sick !
Anyone who questions his "groove" compared to david's, that rendition of a.d.i.d.a.s. was spot on!!!
dude was yelling at someone in the back while still killing on the drums
wow! this is what im talking about! \m/
david who? LOL! Dude loves his craft.
David Silveria. The man behind the kit on their best albuns,a big part of their unique sound when they came and also responsable for their mass sucess the band have today. That David.
andré pereira Jesus, did he hire you as his one-man-propaganda-machine?
😂😂
@@andrepereira744 Perhaps David was the better drummer for Korn, but Ray is most definitely the better overall drummer. Plus, he brought a lot of much needed soberness to the band. The fact that Ray has never touched a drug in his life is really inspiring.
i want to play with ray one time befor to die!!!
That's a monster on that kit! Good advertisement for Pearl and Sabian products.
Dudes a badass!
C'est un malaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade Thank U
i didn't know that, it was really loud on the day, bout took my head off.. pardon the pun!
God those double bass fills...
👊
What song is he going over at 10:20?
Pop A Pill.
This is absolutely unreal
Whats the song before "blind"?
Check out his stuff with Army of Anyone.
I'm not the biggest fan of Korn, but DAMN do I love me some Ray Luzier. Definitely a better drummer than David.
Holy crap.. MF’n Ray... 🤘🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤘🏼 And what song is at 13:45????? Sick...
It's called the holy china by sabian :) .. according to DrummingGiraffe
WTF you talking about? He's Korn's drummer now and he's made Silveria's beats his own by adding his own (and much more superior) style...
5:34 what is the name of this song?
yes hes bad fucking ass
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If he's so badd ass how come you haven't heard from him or in another band besides from Korn..Slash was in GNR and Velvet Revolver and still had on the Miles Kennedy. And some..
Ray Villarreal he was the drummer for Dave Lee Roth
what song it's this ? at 0:45
Here to stay
Regarding this whole David v Ray debate...there's no doubt ray is technically gifted but NOBODY hit harder than silveria....just watch some of those indigo ranch sessions from '96. That dude was an animal plus who do think composed everything played in this video...David did.
Hit harder?? Thats your preference talking...Nah sorry Korn fan myself... Ray has Toured With Legends before he joined Korn
When people keep on about David silvera and how they want him to come back makes me laugh, yes he was great in korn but the fact is he left them because he started to believe he was bigger than korn and they couldn't survive with out him, all the sly stuff he said about the guys and all the times he taken them to court etc etc it's no wonder the guys don't want him in the band, at the end of the day they now have not only a absolutely brilliant drummer but they also have a dude they can work with and he isn't a complete deva like silvera was,
Personally I think Ray is the better drummer of the two but also he's given the band a new lease of life and it shows,
I'm glad Ray is the drummer of korn and I bet he's going to be the last drummer of korn the guys like him and he has become a true member of the band.
I ♥ Holy China