Episode 42: Update on 1993 Bathurst Winning VP Commodore Restoration and 1994 3rd Place VP
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I Remember that year 1993 Bathurst well . The last chance for an Aussie motor to beat the best American Ford and Chev 5.0lt V8s. Woohoo.
How good!
These videos are priceless pieces of Australian history. Thanks gents.
Cheers!
Great work Jack and Larry. Can't wait to see the button pushed and hear these fire up!
Especially the Holden!
Yeh that's going to be a good video!
I really enjoyed every aspect of these years with the V8's. The VP is one of my favourite looking cars along with the EB and EF Falcons. Your Dad will always be a legend and his engineering skills are awesome. Thankyou very much for putting this content up and making things right again in one of Australia's biggest Icon's.
Thank you!
Outstanding resto jobs Jack, I'm in awe at the attention to detail you are going to, to keep the cars authentic. It would have been very easy to take a few shortcuts here and there and nobody would have been any the wiser, but you went above and beyond. I love the see through rocker covers on the 304 BTW, super cool, I didn't realise they were like that
Yeah we couldn't just do a paint and panel resto, with the right stickers and call it complete!! Do it once and do it properly!!
Thanks Jack certainly does bring back alot of memorys mate was a great period . You guys are doing a fabulous job your dad looks as nimble as those days great to see
Cheers!
Good to see Larry rolling around on the floor like a bloke
half his age!
Nice to see some motor history being preserved, keep up
the great work.
He loves it! Cheers
I just watched “Last to first” again. What an amazing race. It brought back the exact same feelings from all those years ago being so happy for LP and RP but shattered for GS. So cool watching LP chat to the commentators while pushing flat out. Then to see little you crying with joy. Awesome
Yeah that's 1995, great memories!
So good to see the Iron Lion in the 93 car. This was one of our countries finest achievements regarding small block V8 design (plus they sounded bloody good in Commodore's of that period). Not to mention the guys who made them sing in race mode!. Always interesting, thankyou.
Not wrong! Cheers
Love what you’re doing with these cars
I was at the top of the mountain in 93👍👍
Cheers!
Thanks from England.
You're welcome!
So good to see you again jack looking forward to seeing them running
New shed looks nice 👍👍👍
Cheers!
Thanks Jack. Great to see Larry. Cheers
Cheers!
Awesome as always. Thanks for the close up shots. Cheers.
No worries, cheers!
Great to see LP going as hard as ever. Incredible attention to detail on these cars, looking forward to seeing them on the track.
Cheers!
Be great to see a video on setting up the bump steer
Yeah we have already done that, might be able to get something together....
great memories
Absolutely!
Another great vid Jack, always good to see LP on the tools. My brother now races a 500Cr powered go cart & to choose his number at the hill climb you can guess our both instant thoughts lol,11. I am a career mechanic and Larry is probably the main reason for that, was always more interested in how my dirt bike ran,and how to make IT faster. But what I want to say here is just how good of a job you are doing with an Aussie icon, the best job & the pride your great father shows in you makes me warm. Its hard to be the son of a gun & you have hit the nail right smack on the head mate. Great cars of a great era,the racing was more pure & you are showing a set of skills that come from the great LP
Good on you mate! not just Larry are proud of what you are doing here but I think a whole generation or 3 of racing enthusiasts are equally as proud. Cant wait to hear that 304 in person
Cheers!
Look at LP go, still crawling under cars and getting his hands dirty. Probably still the sharpest tool in the shed. The man is a national living treasure.
Definitely!
Amazing content as always, appreciate so much the work you put into these videos! Nowhere else I could learn and see all of these things. Eventually once they’re up and running would be awesome to get an exhaust video between the generations with the sounds they make!
Cheers!
Good work Perkins family, my fav. is the 95" cheers
Cheers!
Was wife’s cameo about giving you guys any advice?
A memorable moment for me was having my Mum help me install an engine once. I asked her to lower the engine a bit by releasing the valve, CRASH. Great time & I love my Mum.
Haha she was shocked when I told her the camera was on lol
Good to see the old boy gettin down and dirty. Love it..
Loves it!
Love the see through valve covers. The others look ordinary now.
Yeah they look cool!!!
Well done on the resto jack
Well done on the videos as well
Cheers
Another cracker Show today Guys, loved watch Larry and yourself working away there, brought back so many memories,
what and awesome year was back in 1993, coming from the back to win ❤😊
Cheers 🍺🍻KC Cradle Mountain Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺🇦🇺🤝🇦🇺🇦🇺😎👍✌
Cheers!
Love the ‘93 car, can’t wait to hear the Lion roar 👍🏻🇦🇺
Same!
Super cool, to see the quality restoration, on these legions, from a great Aussie era of motor sport.
Cheers!
Another great video Jack top job mate
Thanks Bruce!
Love this work, attention to detail is amazing! Thanks for sharing
Cheers
Even though im a Blue Oval man, the 304 & 308 GMH engines always sounded awesome at full noise- the 350's always sounded tinny to me
Cheers!
Bloody fantastic work Jack & Larry. Looking sweet as!
Cheers!
Just awesome work and the collection keeps growing. Nice to see LP getting involved. Love watching what you guys are doing.
Cheers!
Awesome Work Jack and Larry, Can't wait to see these Beauties running :)
Us too!!!
love a magpie gargle in the morning lol
So good
Bloody awesome footage Jack! How good is it seeing LP working on these cars!
Can’t believe the detail that you guys have put into both of these cars. Arguably better condition now then when first hit the track.
Thanks Jack👍
Cheers!
GREAT JOB 🔥💪
Cheers!
Hi Tara
Love your work, Jack 👍
Cheers
Very good!
Thanks!
Always loved the Perkins 'Tower of Power' set up in the cabin. just a question, did you ever keep second engines on hand for the endurance event's? ... I know the answer is probably yes but did the team ever practice change of engine in worst case scenario to get the car back out there for some points if you get my meaning.
Yes Bathurst was always a 2-3 engine week back in the 90's only recently have teams used the same engine through practice into the race. In 1993 we used our customer engines in practice, to run them run out of mileage, so we changed engines every night, starting wednesday after practice!
Can’t wait to see these cars up and running! Because of time lapse obviously there is no sound- how many father and son arguments were there? Lol!😂
Haha nah none in that install :)
Awesome 👍
Cheers
Another great video as always Jack, hows the new factory working out, it looks super clean and organised..
Cheers, not as organised as we'd like but getting there!
Are the fibreglass rocker covers for light weight or so you can see what's going on inside the engine easily if there is an issue? I love your videos, and I love seeing what's going on with these beautiful cars that I grew up watching in my teens.
Yes for weight
and centre of gravity
SICK!!
Cheers!
Brilliant
Cheers!
You do such a nice job of these restos , question , we’re they presented this nicely originally?
They would've been quite nice when new, but they don't stay new for long!
Love my TShirts, Thankyou :)
Good stuff!!
Love the content jack
Cheers Dean!
Hi can you do video on the different types of headers and exhausts on each gen of the Commodore
Would like to do this but really need the pipes out of the cars, and would love to have a set of cross overs too but without the props it's quite hard to do
are those rocker covers at 4:00 fibreglass? they are almost transparent
Yes sir
Great to see LP getting his hands dirty so to speak.
He didn’t have the old school white overalls on Jacko??
Nah no white overalls these days!!
Jack - how about a shop tour?
Yeah possibly, need to finish getting setup first, whilst still trying to complete jobs and make videos !
G'day, not sure how it would work on a commodore, but I find it easiest to fit engines, on early Holdens (up to HQ), from underneath. Using a hoist(usually) Engine, gbox, mounted to front cross member. Wheel under car, lower, bolt in cross members. Steering and brake connections are the only extra tasks, but your bonnet stays where it is, and you save a lot of back bending. Also makes it easy on the paint.
Anyway, you know what your doing. Not sure when Holden started using the body drop.
Yes that would help with the paint, we only recently acquired 1 hoist and it's got a different car on it. The way we did it wasn't unfamiliar, as we never had hoists but this was also how engine changes were done at the circuit.
awsome Jack!!! question. What made you get into doing these Restoration's of these car's? doing a freaken awsome job mate!!
It's a good question. I was actually working as a sign writer in Queensland in 2011 and at the end of that year my job disappeared. At the same time Dad had sold the balance of his PE racing team to Kelly Racing and was moving out of his shed, aircraft hangar in Moorabbin Airport. He asked me o give him a hand moving out and he was literally going to throw out everything. I decided to start intercepting things at the skip bin, like technical drawings and old history pieces. At the same time many Perkins car owners were wondering who they could now reach out to to get information once PE was gone, which was imminently. So I start chatted with the car owners and engine owners and built relationships with them, keeping everything "alive" so to speak. Once we moved factories and sold off a lot of surplus gear, a car owner asked me to do some work on his then car, 1997 Bathurst Winner. So we started working on it, from a general service point of view. We noticed the paint and panel side of the restoration was nice and neat, but mechanically the car was in poor shape. So we gave the engine, gearbox and driveline a birthday, to match the shiny paint and stickers. Basically it's continued since then, which was 2013/14. We happily work with car owners around Aus and NZ, making parts, or selling them parts for their cars or engines. The 1993 car was always a bit of a dream of mine to get back one day and restore. It's the first car to win Bathurst for PE, Dad and Gregg dominated all weekend with Pole Position and the Race Win, plus the Aussie Holden Engine. With the help of David Gardner we were able to get the car back and, in conjunction with the 1994 car we started restoring the cars properly. We also help other customers restore their cars, so we have helped with PE010, PE021, PE024, PE029 and others. There's still other car out there to be restored, hopefully we are setting a very nice standard and that car owners would like us to complete their car resto's!
great work Jack the cars look stunning, well done
Cheers!!!
Love these video's what's the reason for see through rocker covers?
Light weight
Great update thanks Jack. Any progress on Larrys Land Rover
Cheers! He's moved them up to the farm so haven't been able to check in there as yet!
1993 was when CAMS gave the Holden a new aero kit before Bathurst . The rest is history.
To even them up with the Ford's
@@perkinsengineering : my uncle work for CAMS is the 70’s & 80’’s : he said before he died “to make sure Ford can’t win , Australian motorsport is corrupt “
Kind like still goes on now .
Is that a Toyota lexan rear light middle garnish? Interesting piece to run the advertising on the boot
Negative. They are S pack or Calais with the ribbed sections rubbed down/ground down so the sticker would stick
The time lapse footage of engine install needed Benny Hill music!
Haha thought about it
I did that when I watched it through the first time lol....
Let’s go
Yep
hello jack , love the videos , who does the refurb work on the bonnet brackets ? thanks
We tidy them up and get them re zinc plated at Huntingdale Electroplating in Melbourne
@@perkinsengineering thanks for the speedy reply 👍
brilliant work mate, with regards to tuning the ECU's, how is that all going to work? wouldnt the programs used for the ECU's be way out of date?
We've already done all of the tuning on the dyno. The Autronic ECU's have had the updated windows software added and are ready to go!
@@perkinsengineering Good Stuff. they original time/period ECU's? if so amazing that the updated windows software interfaces with 30 year old ECU's
I'm interested in purchasing a 93 Perkins VP if there's one available.
Haha not at this stage!
Hi jack how did u find the your dads old vp race cars 🏎
Always kept track of them, with new owners and what not. We wouldn't have been able to get the 1993 car without the help of a great fella David Gardner. We found the 1994 car and got that. He found the 1993 car and got that, then we swapped!
Fantastic Jack and Larry 👍 Did LP do all the design fabrication and fit or did he have help ? No power steering ? I guess the negative camber wasn’t as wild as these days but it would sure have been heavy to steer.
Cheers! That's a broad question in term of fabrication and fit. The body shell and many components were/are heavily based on the road cars. Perkins Engineering's staff and LP had collective input into all design and engineering.
Power steering wasn't really a "thing" for PE until 1996 into 1997. Yes camber and castor much lower then than now!
Ok thanks Jack . I knew the shell came from Holden and I think they did a shutdown of the line at the factory and did race shells without all the unwanted stuff. How many staff did Larry have being a privateer ?
@@mikenowland2739 in 1993 it was probably around 10-12 full time staff, but the core business was building customer cars and engines. In 2004/05, running 4 cars in the main game supercars we had in excess of 50 full time staff.
Wow that many . I loved watching these cars race but had no idea they were so complex. Keep them coming Jack 👍
@@perkinsengineering I'm quite interested to know why the caster wasn't as aggressive back then? The reason behind it is because of the spool diff, am I right? Was more and more caster angle a natural progression, or was it a sudden increase because of different suspension setup? Like the independent rear?
Frothing at the clear view rocker covers in the 1993 car...
Look cool hey!
@@perkinsengineering pretty?! They are die for
How good is your dad,, bouncing around like a spring chicken!
Not too bad for his age!
I had the bonnet of that car!
Which car, 93 or 94?
White just makes the interior and underbody so bright and tidy . Love how basic they are inside especially compared to a modern car. No cool suit box and all the other ugly stuff inside them
Very neat when they are new in white, after a few seasons they get a bit tardy
Jack poor old Larry , spent more time on the floor...
Lol
looks like no 2 was causing a few problems!
That was a combination of trying too hard not to scratch any paint work whatsoever and having the lifting plates in slightly the wrong spot, all good now though :)
Imagine having a 93 Perkins Bathurst winning Commo in your collection- and then imagine 30 years later if you got it restored by his son and the man himself!!!! Some pedigree that car! Where’s the stats on that one sleuth?
Hahaha yeah pretty cool
last 308 bathurst winner
That's the 1993 car
The last year a real engine won.
Iron Lion!
What’s the plan for these once they are done? I imagine that you would get them out on the track as often as possible.
Well we don't own the 1994 car, that is a customers car. So we can't speak on behalf of that car. However both cars will be finished to a standard that will allow them to be 100% race ready for any on or off track activity. It's a bit hard to make plans until they are actually finished, but certainly running them on track to make sure they are sound is the first plan. Then Bathurst this year for the 30th anniversary of 1993 win would be cool. Other events like Phillip Island Historics would be cool, but would love to get over to Goodwood!