I read of Daniel Everett's de-conversion story just as I was exiting Christianity, after 46 years as an evangelical and several years as a missionary. I honestly can say that his story changed my life: I knew it was OK to give up my faith, and so I did, at the age of 61. And life has never been more exciting and fun and fulfilled. Thank you Daniel Everett.
What is the reason of your life now? I mean, if someone does not believe in God, I personally think they simply "exist to die" and that life has no real purpose for them except for living untill dying. And I don't think that is a fulfilling or comforting thought, to be honest.
@@bluepeacemaker energy never dies, it transforms into different states. We were always the potential energy of the stars and our ancestors. That is why you unconsciously are not stressed by the thought that 100 years ago you weren't in your present form of existence. Equally neither should you be disheartened by your state in 100 years from now.
@@bluepeacemaker just because you need to believe in God to give your life a meaning it does not prove that there is actually a superior being. I love life even though I do not believe in God and I deeply feel that my life is worth living it.
He's so modest. I heard his story on NPR, and he lived with them for nearly a decade, and it was much more challenging than he makes it sound, because he was the first person to understand their language, and the tribe has been known to western civilization for centuries. He was the only one to succeed where so many have failed.
Thing is, he didn't succeed. A lot of his research is just incorrect, there's a reason why no linguist takes his work seriously. He also provided nothing in return. Didn't let the people view the film he was making, didn't TELL them in the first place, etc. He also knew their needs and never gave back in any way. Not in regards to health, bilingual education, etc. He's not modest.
@@xoreign why do these people need bilingualism education, I mean these people have been living in the Amazon for centuries without it, why do they need it know.
I just discovered Daniel Everett and the Piraha People last night and I have learned and found so much wisdom in these people that I literally can't get it out of my mind. It's absolutely amazing 🎉 I'm definitely soul searching now 💖
Existentialists: what's the meaning of life? What is our purpose in the world? Nietzche: transcendental gives humans a purpose to live. It is said that mankind does not live on bread alone Theists: the afterlife gives our lives meaning and lets us tough through the suffering in life The Stoic realistic Piraha chads: Ok, cool story, bro. * goes on about their daily routine *
I have now read his book “Don’t Sleep, There are Snakes” twice (actually listened to the audiobook, which I really recommend so you can hear the spoken Pirahã), and it’s absolutely the most fascinating and enjoyable read that I’ve ever had. It’s got me yearning for something similar to it in regards to a detailing of an indigenous culture that is as comprehensive as Everett’s book is. If anyone knows of any and could share that info with me, I would be extremely grateful.
I go on months without smiling. Life is so complicated and difficult to maintain in modern world. Always worry about money. To pay bills to survive. Pinaha tribes are lucky people.
That's why even if I don't see how better their life will be with God, I still believe in him and believe that we in the modern world need God more than ever. They are born in "happiness". We are fighting to be happy from day one of our lives. We have to try to please our parents, then our teachers and later our bosses and the government. We also have to "fit in" in other to be accepted by our society. Then hustle to possess x or y that we want or need and before we know we are already dead. We desperately need Jesus to make sense of all this.
Not really, everyone has a complicated life while yes these people don't have to worry about money or bills, they also have problems that revolt around their environment. Instead of money and bills, they have to worry about disease.
Thank god? It was this deity(god) of Christianity that made the lands and territories of abORIGINALS, primitives and indigenous to land grabbed by its followers and believers. " Go you therefore, COLONIZE all nations and CHRISTIANIZE them in the name of the X, of the Y and of the Z ".
@@MediciMedic Where did you get that information? From what I have seen he was forbidden to return there not by the tribe but by FUNAI, the Brazilian Governmental Institution for Indian Affairs. (Although their reasons for denying him are also unclear to me)
The tribe is a walking-talking version of the Argument of Divine Hiddenness. Something like If God existed, he would be manifested equally and correctly to all beings without confusion, he is not manifested correctly and equally to all beings without confusion, therefore he does not exist.
@@chrisray9653 Ironically, the strident nature of some atheists can mirror the fervor of evangelicals. At least agnosticism keeps room for wonder. Yet if I hadn't had two NDEs (near death experiences), I'd probably still be in the former camp. While certainty that consciousness is non-local is a far cry from belief in divinity, I'm sure that realms exist with higher vibratory signatures. Without the nearly dying part, of course, I wish folks had access to their own STEs (spiritually transformative experiences) - ones that transcend the singular and intersect with universal perception. Here's to finding the elevators to the Unified Field.
How interesting is this talk about one of the indigenous languages of my country. Congratulations for having decided to do this great job here in Brazil. You inspire many people who want to do something important to the world, however I believe in God, not the One religion tells about. Thank you very much.
I use the word 'God' to label the immense vibration of love to which we all have access. I also believe - without proof, of course - that human consciousness has many levels: we're capable of raising our own vibrational signature to attain greater access and comprehension of said realms. Wishing you peace on the path. ✨
I would say that the great lesson here is that at the deepest root of things we move on by building our understanding and knowledge from people's differences, a skill that the competitive western civilization has not been able to truly embrace until now.
@Tarl Denmark "we have knowledge not them". 1. You don't have knowledge of grammar. 2. We might know more but we have people believing in invisible friends.
Exactly, real scientist should be willing to listen to new evidence. I mean fields that involves humans should be expected that there are going to be differences and that some community won't follow certain rules. I mean we do this with customs and marriages so why not language, different communities don't follow certain rules so why don't these linguists the same thing with language.
I cannot agree with the message more, especially as I'm getting ready to "celebrate Christmas" tomorrow with my friends: an Iranian, a Russian, a French and American.
Brilliant! Love the concept and it is so true!!!! Really funny and very thoughtful speaker. Thank you so much for sharing about your story and about the Hunter Gatherer tribe in Amazon. What s fantastic experience and really good outcome!!!
That's very true but if you think about it from a basic view, it makes sense that these communities won't follow language rules. They have been isolated for so long, away from all other languages and people so it would make sense that their language won't follow rules that haven't been used to make the language in the first place.
Consensus and harmony are hard to come by among people with different ideas, beliefs and values. Too much difference leads only to disagreement and division and eventually conflict. Shared values and customs and beliefs create a strong community, but should be coupled with openness to new information.
Chomsky is so big he refuses to take in new information and accuses anyone who disagrees with him as being charlatans. He also refutes the value of any field work and believes sitting at a desk theorizing is the real work.
Exactly, all these linguists that try to attack him instead of listening to him and learning. These people think that language always follow these rules but language is just like people, it doesn't always follow rules. While yes, most global language might follow certain rules. It doesn't mean that this people do considering that they a very small community compared to other languages like spanish, English, or Chinese.
Maybe they're more concerned with getting on with their lives and what impacts them on a daily basis, instead of philosophising about mortality and creation. Afterall, they don't have the scientific tools to verify any creation stories, and from the video it seems they are pure empiricists: they believe things which are verifiable. But they are atheists, in that they lack a belief in any god, that's the definition of the word, but atheist is a very non-specific word. Buddhists are technically atheists.
because a God(aka Deity) was a human idea that began from animism, till polytheism was born and anthropomorphic literary device was used to make these gods look legit, or real, by putting a dialogue in their mouth. Out of polytheism some tribes began to introduce the concept of monolatry, which makes monotheism as an evolution of religious human CULTURE. Adam upto Noah were modern type of human civilization because they do farming-herding which was predated by hunter-gatherer human civilization. This alone makes Genesis, of Hebrew's Literature as simply an EPIC STORIES, with a "drama" between man, a deity, and an animal. Also a talking serpent and talking Deity were simply an example of "anthropomorphic literature" (literary tool, or device, literary twchnique) just like Disneland movies.
You are not a failure you learned a lot that linguistics and anthropology can benefit from. It is a shame that so many people who contact these cultures are there just to change them.
I wonder why this is the only people that have this type of language & way of living? It must not be successful in a diverse world of environments if no other peoples utilize it.
Sounds like your belief in God and Jesus was really fragile. Feel really sorry about that and hope you will have an encounter with HIM again. A true one this time.
Loved the book. Not a fan of the diversity spiel. The reason the Pirahas exist and continue to exist is their unity and distrust of outsiders and outside information. It's strange that Daniel Everett flipped this simple idea to support the very opposite.
I listened and thought the same thing. I've just finished his book and absolutely loved it. A fascinating story by a really likeable and interesting man. However, he states that the Piraha are the happiest people in the world, and in his book says that they are an extremely conservative (literally) people who do not want to learn anything from outside cultures. They are quite happy as they are and want no other influences on their way of life. At the same time, he says in order for us to thrive we must embrace diversity and learn from other cultures and ways of life, and not be so insular (not disagreeing with that necessarily). There seems to be a contradiction there which I'd like to hear his answer to. Perhaps he would say we are so different to the Pirahas and have evolved so far down the line in to a global society, that we should have a different outlook to them. Still, a lot of the book is about the fundamentals of human nature, and how he learned through what he thought they had right. Disappointed to hear him going full SJW at the end too. Anyway, highly recommend his brilliant book.
Please educate yourselves on this person. A lot of his research has largely been discredited, not taken seriously by any real linguist. Both because of methodology and his baseless claims. He came into this community for poor research, and failed to give back, not even telling them he was making a film. He knew they were in need of bilingual education and health resources, yet provided nothing. He actively declined to give anything in return. I study linguistics in university and I don't know of a single professor in the department who gives him merit.
@Language and Programming Channel May I know what your linguistic education background is? Or is it limited to reddit and pop science books. I'd love to hear it
Lol aka “I’m in a linguist department that views Chomsky as a God who can’t be wrong, and I watched the video online of a guy in Portuguese that can’t actually speak the tribal language make up baseless claims about Daniel. Then I went back into my linguistic echo-chamber and decided that’s all I need and he’s a fraud. Idc that many many other academics work and publish with Daniel in a variety of wholly creditable journals and textbooks.” It’s sad that you are the type of person that’s going to be involved in the future of linguistics. Another dogmatic thinking college student. Go figure. And also the man speaking has x10 of the credentials that you have. I mean You literally tried to make an argument to authority to someone even though who you claimed is a fraud has way more education than you. Ironic no?
@@austinlang6946 Have you ever considered the possibility that a majority opinion prevails because that's just ... what most experts believe to be the case? Piraha Exceptionality: a reassessment, Andrew Nevins, David Pesetsky, Cilene Rodrigues. Evidence and argumentation: A reply to revert (2009) If you can provide me with evidence that doesn't scream "I took an intro to linguistics course" please let me know. Can I ask what your credentials are? I know you're going to interpret that as "are you also brainwashed?" but really I'm asking if you have a foundation in syntax / some kind of framework like x-bar theory. If you do, I am legitimately confused as to how you would buy into his research. If a 12-year-old algebra student claims to have broken math, the entire mathematical world disagreeing with him is not an example of "dogmatic thinking" Authority in academia is not awarded to that which is taught in institutions. It is awarded to those that withstand any and all contrary evidence and is able to remain as the most plausible explanation for something. Everett does not have that. Chomsky does. (in this particular department) My education has nothing to do with it. I am aware of the evidence that exists and am able to analyze it as someone more than a nobody. I am not trying to disprove Everett's work myself. A math student can tell if a proof above them is legitimate or not, even if they'd be unable to do that proof themselves.
Whether you believe in Jesus’s divinity or not, to me, is irrelevant. The fact is he was a great leader who changed the world and died preaching a message of love. Nothing wrong with following him. Many Christian’s believe in God and yet don’t believe in Heaven. Just because you believe in God, the Christian God, does not mean you are afraid of death or no longer existing.
If you walk away from a relationship because someone asked you a question that made you doubt your relationship.......you probably didn't have much of a relationship to begin with. Just a set of beliefs based on religion but not a clear relationship with Christ.
@Peanut Bear I am allowed to learn about other events/objects/patterns/systems etc, but if there is no sign of them around me I don't generally let myself think about them. E.g. transgenderism, climate science, foreign politicians, America (excluding Hawaii)
Unbelief is not olny his problem... Mark 16:14 Afterward Jesus appeared to the eleven themselves as they were reclining at table, and he rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they had not believed those who saw him after he had risen.
A nice man, though I’m not sold on the “diversity of the exterior” that he’s propagating. Intellectual diversity can be found anywhere regardless of how people “look”.
Its a shortcut for new information. Genetic information, cultural information, ect. ect. Everyone is diffrent sure, but the major diffrences between cultures are there too.
I'm pretty sure you introduced the skin color part. Dan was talking about Diversity of experience. It just so happens that western cultures are all pretty similar and therefore produce less intellectual variation
"If everyone looks the same, you can bet this will not be an innovative company". YIKES! People of the same ethnic background cannot think differently from one another? No wonder this guys family disowned him.
If your company has people from many different backgrounds, those people will have many different ideas. More different than if it was all people from the same background.
@@bryanfongo327 it doesnt occur to you that maybe all that "different ideas" are of no benefit? all the human development until this century happened with no diversity
Think about it. Coming as an ex christian missionary, he probably had a well thought point when saying the things about physical differences, prevalence of white males and un-openness to new ideas etc.
A little more subtle than that I think. A diversity of thought often has a diversity of look. Buddhists to Muslims to Jews to orthodox Christians to traders in Marrakesh to Eskimos and on and on. He was just making that, more general, point.
@witkrieg todd No, no. That is not what he is doing. Listen to his words again. Dan Everett does not believe this sort of thing. I follow him closely and know his views quite well.
He had the wrong idea of being a missionary. Being a missionary is not westernizing natives. The gospel is not about being happy, rich nor successful. It's about one's eternal soul. It's about knowing and acknowledging God as the Creator and about the afterlife.
I think the Parahas have the right idea here. Have they seen the afterlife? Jesus and the so called Creator enter their lives directly(and not through the word of a missionary?? No? Then until so, they shouldn't be adding another layer of mystery to their already hard life.
@@steventan2754 i myself am an atheist, but that logic is quite bad because with that reason alone the religious can criticise us for coming up with things we havent personally witnessed, even though there is overwhelming evidence.
@@steventan2754 hard life? How do you know it's hard? Only because you compare it to yours. They don't know your life. How do you know your life isn't hard to them?
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I read of Daniel Everett's de-conversion story just as I was exiting Christianity, after 46 years as an evangelical and several years as a missionary.
I honestly can say that his story changed my life: I knew it was OK to give up my faith, and so I did, at the age of 61. And life has never been more exciting and fun and fulfilled. Thank you Daniel Everett.
Congratulations brother.
I'm curious as to what led you to become a christian in the first place for you to de-convert after 46+ years?
What is the reason of your life now? I mean, if someone does not believe in God, I personally think they simply "exist to die" and that life has no real purpose for them except for living untill dying. And I don't think that is a fulfilling or comforting thought, to be honest.
@@bluepeacemaker energy never dies, it transforms into different states. We were always the potential energy of the stars and our ancestors. That is why you unconsciously are not stressed by the thought that 100 years ago you weren't in your present form of existence. Equally neither should you be disheartened by your state in 100 years from now.
@@bluepeacemaker just because you need to believe in God to give your life a meaning it does not prove that there is actually a superior being. I love life even though I do not believe in God and I deeply feel that my life is worth living it.
He's so modest. I heard his story on NPR, and he lived with them for nearly a decade, and it was much more challenging than he makes it sound, because he was the first person to understand their language, and the tribe has been known to western civilization for centuries. He was the only one to succeed where so many have failed.
He persisted.
Thing is, he didn't succeed. A lot of his research is just incorrect, there's a reason why no linguist takes his work seriously. He also provided nothing in return. Didn't let the people view the film he was making, didn't TELL them in the first place, etc. He also knew their needs and never gave back in any way. Not in regards to health, bilingual education, etc. He's not modest.
@@xoreign where did you hear this from?
@@GrammeStudio I'm studying linguistics at university but there's a documentary online you can find of interviews with the natives.
@@xoreign why do these people need bilingualism education, I mean these people have been living in the Amazon for centuries without it, why do they need it know.
The most underrated TED talk.
💯
👍👍
I just discovered Daniel Everett and the Piraha People last night and I have learned and found so much wisdom in these people that I literally can't get it out of my mind.
It's absolutely amazing 🎉
I'm definitely soul searching now 💖
Existentialists: what's the meaning of life? What is our purpose in the world?
Nietzche: transcendental gives humans a purpose to live. It is said that mankind does not live on bread alone
Theists: the afterlife gives our lives meaning and lets us tough through the suffering in life
The Stoic realistic Piraha chads: Ok, cool story, bro. * goes on about their daily routine *
I have now read his book “Don’t Sleep, There are Snakes” twice (actually listened to the audiobook, which I really recommend so you can hear the spoken Pirahã), and it’s absolutely the most fascinating and enjoyable read that I’ve ever had. It’s got me yearning for something similar to it in regards to a detailing of an indigenous culture that is as comprehensive as Everett’s book is. If anyone knows of any and could share that info with me, I would be extremely grateful.
Any indigenous culture is as friendly as the Piraha.
One of the best TED talks I have ever listened to. Honest advice from a person. Appreciate his humility.
Piraha: Dan, have you heard of the Socratic method?
Lol so true, tell me why?
Dear RUclips, please incorporate the "I love this" button. I need it right now.
Misericordia!
That button is so needed.
Kinda like back when the favorite button existed.
I go on months without smiling. Life is so complicated and difficult to maintain in modern world.
Always worry about money. To pay bills to survive.
Pinaha tribes are lucky people.
That's why even if I don't see how better their life will be with God, I still believe in him and believe that we in the modern world need God more than ever. They are born in "happiness". We are fighting to be happy from day one of our lives. We have to try to please our parents, then our teachers and later our bosses and the government. We also have to "fit in" in other to be accepted by our society. Then hustle to possess x or y that we want or need and before we know we are already dead.
We desperately need Jesus to make sense of all this.
I wish you to find purpose and joy in your life. Sending you love from Cameroon.
It's called subsistence farming. This exists in neoliberal capitalism but hardly anyone thinks to do it anymore.
Not really, everyone has a complicated life while yes these people don't have to worry about money or bills, they also have problems that revolt around their environment. Instead of money and bills, they have to worry about disease.
They seem to do just fine without any deities Kevin.
Thank god, some tribes are still left in this land, unbrainwashed by any religious BS.
I want to be friends with these people. They're no nonsense, but clearly every friendly.
Thank god?
It was this deity(god) of Christianity that made the lands and territories of abORIGINALS, primitives and indigenous to land grabbed by its followers and believers.
" Go you therefore, COLONIZE all nations and CHRISTIANIZE them in the name of the X, of the Y and of the Z ".
@@yonatancruz2761 , 😊 The 'god' in my usage was due to force of habit. Didn't mean it actually.
@@trsarathi
Oh my gods
Must me nice to have a clean mind
I was very sad to know that he wasn't allowed to go back to meet Piraha anymore in 2011 even though Piraha like him so much. Is he able to go now?
@David Garcia He reportedly had a child with a young woman there, and the Piraha became very angry with them both. They exiled him and banished her.
@@MediciMedic Nice.
@@MediciMedic Nice.
Nice.
@@MediciMedic Where did you get that information? From what I have seen he was forbidden to return there not by the tribe but by FUNAI, the Brazilian Governmental Institution for Indian Affairs. (Although their reasons for denying him are also unclear to me)
Great talk
I can see you've done your homework before making your last two videos, they're pretty good, all of your videos that are not on diet/nutrition are.
This is a great man and I'm so grateful for him and his conversion. The Piraha taught him well 😀
I totally agree 💯👍
Linguistic anthropology seems to me to be the most difficult and rewarding disciplines a person might possibly pursue.
it's actually Field Linguistics
Howabout maff
Learned about this from reading Mastery by Robert Greene. So glad 😊 I found this talk.
Great guy! Really enjoyed this, I am an atheist and love the way he came ‘converted ‘ to be one too!😊
The tribe is a walking-talking version of the Argument of Divine Hiddenness. Something like If God existed, he would be manifested equally and correctly to all beings without confusion, he is not manifested correctly and equally to all beings without confusion, therefore he does not exist.
@@chrisray9653 Ironically, the strident nature of some atheists can mirror the fervor of evangelicals. At least agnosticism keeps room for wonder.
Yet if I hadn't had two NDEs (near death experiences), I'd probably still be in the former camp.
While certainty that consciousness is non-local is a far cry from belief in divinity, I'm sure that realms exist with higher vibratory signatures.
Without the nearly dying part, of course, I wish folks had access to their own STEs (spiritually transformative experiences) - ones that transcend the singular and intersect with universal perception.
Here's to finding the elevators to the Unified Field.
One of the best videos I've ever seen in my life!
How interesting is this talk about one of the indigenous languages of my country. Congratulations for having decided to do this great job here in Brazil. You inspire many people who want to do something important to the world, however I believe in God, not the One religion tells about. Thank you very much.
I use the word 'God' to label the immense vibration of love to which we all have access.
I also believe - without proof, of course - that human consciousness has many levels: we're capable of raising our own vibrational signature to attain greater access and comprehension of said realms.
Wishing you peace on the path. ✨
Thank you!❤
I love Daniel. Such an intelligent guy.
I would say that the great lesson here is that at the deepest root of things we move on by building our understanding and knowledge from people's differences, a skill that the competitive western civilization has not been able to truly embrace until now.
I love his books and his talks!! He is a born teacher. so fascinating.
What a wonderful man! This should be shown to all children in the west :)
This tribe sounds like they have a lot more common sense than most people. We should learn from them.
@Tarl Denmark "we have knowledge not them".
1. You don't have knowledge of grammar.
2. We might know more but we have people believing in invisible friends.
@@gdwnet They probably aren't the best at grammar either. And we already have people believing we live a worthless life evolved from apes.
Mr. Meme and we have people who believe we have an eternal soul with NO evidence
@@sandraarriaga832 It can't be disproved either
Mr. Meme humans having a common ancestry with chimpanzee has more supportive evidence than a woman coming from a mans rib.
I am reading his book "dont sleep",and loving it.
This is exactly why I think animals DO have language, just not what we expect in terms of grammar and syntax.
Most definitely. There has been some neat research done with dolphin communication that I recommend checking out!
Daniel just spoke the word of real truth
He is being persecuted because Chomsky disagrees with him.
Exactly, real scientist should be willing to listen to new evidence. I mean fields that involves humans should be expected that there are going to be differences and that some community won't follow certain rules. I mean we do this with customs and marriages so why not language, different communities don't follow certain rules so why don't these linguists the same thing with language.
@@pedroguerrero3862arrogant know it alls
I cannot agree with the message more, especially as I'm getting ready to "celebrate Christmas" tomorrow with my friends: an Iranian, a Russian, a French and American.
Did you all walk into a bar?
I think I just saw the best Ted talk that´s ever made
Brilliant! Love the concept and it is so true!!!! Really funny and very thoughtful speaker. Thank you so much for sharing about your story and about the Hunter Gatherer tribe in Amazon. What s fantastic experience and really good outcome!!!
One of the best & most honest presentations ever ❣️
If you liked this talk I just finished his book, Don’t Sleep There are Snakes. Incredible story.
The intro song is "What's Really Good" by Brayton Bowman
New information is hard to come by when we surround ourselves by people who look like us, talk like us and eat like us and think like us.
That's very true but if you think about it from a basic view, it makes sense that these communities won't follow language rules. They have been isolated for so long, away from all other languages and people so it would make sense that their language won't follow rules that haven't been used to make the language in the first place.
This guy is really an eloquent speaker .
"To change the world you must first let the world change you." -me
🎉great professor
That intro gave me earcancer
No one cares what you think.
@@canobiggs i don't care that you don't care
Every DAMNED Ted video
I'm genuinely glad Dan was able to salvage something out of his time as a Fundamentalist. Most of us weren't so lucky.
Consensus and harmony are hard to come by among people with different ideas, beliefs and values. Too much difference leads only to disagreement and division and eventually conflict. Shared values and customs and beliefs create a strong community, but should be coupled with openness to new information.
Mad respect to Dan.
He came back learning the mantra of happiness.
He is enlightening
Fascinating.
Great! He is an incredible man with incredible thougts.
O tempo dirá a verdade.
So are the Pinaha.
I feel like we should be in search of wisdom rather then just being guided by curiousity.
I'm here because of "Mastery"
So am I!! Great guy, great book
@@ragnarokisnear can u tell me what field/ subject ur into, if any
@@narinebipat2639 I've already read all the book, but I'll Reading again the last, chapter, it's amazing!
Me too!
Me too! Then, I've read his book Don't Sleep There Are Snakes and also listened to it through Audible
Chomsky should follow this advice, and may be the linguistic comunity could apreciate this knowledge.
lol
Chomsky is so big he refuses to take in new information and accuses anyone who disagrees with him as being charlatans. He also refutes the value of any field work and believes sitting at a desk theorizing is the real work.
@@andrew348 Evidence?
@@andrew348 Has the speaker here ever actually said Chomsky was being dismissive? The antagonism seems manufactured.
Exactly, all these linguists that try to attack him instead of listening to him and learning. These people think that language always follow these rules but language is just like people, it doesn't always follow rules. While yes, most global language might follow certain rules. It doesn't mean that this people do considering that they a very small community compared to other languages like spanish, English, or Chinese.
This tribe of Brazil is little known here in Brazil, most Brazilians are Christians
Unbelievable one american speak our language, this is mind blowing 😎
@Language and Programming Channel Both and add English and Guarani to that xD
It is fascinating a primitive tribe does not even have folk-religion. It doesn't feel right to call it atheism, more like apatheism or indifferentism.
Maybe they're more concerned with getting on with their lives and what impacts them on a daily basis, instead of philosophising about mortality and creation. Afterall, they don't have the scientific tools to verify any creation stories, and from the video it seems they are pure empiricists: they believe things which are verifiable.
But they are atheists, in that they lack a belief in any god, that's the definition of the word, but atheist is a very non-specific word. Buddhists are technically atheists.
because a God(aka Deity) was a human idea that began from animism, till polytheism was born and anthropomorphic literary device was used to make these gods look legit, or real, by putting a dialogue in their mouth. Out of polytheism some tribes began to introduce the concept of monolatry, which makes monotheism as an evolution of religious human CULTURE.
Adam upto Noah were modern type of human civilization because they do farming-herding which was predated by hunter-gatherer human civilization.
This alone makes Genesis, of Hebrew's Literature as simply an EPIC STORIES, with a "drama" between man, a deity, and an animal.
Also a talking serpent and talking Deity were simply an example of "anthropomorphic literature" (literary tool, or device, literary twchnique) just like Disneland movies.
Anyone know if he was unbanned from visiting the Pirahã?
He was banned??
He is still not allowed to return, no.
You are not a failure you learned a lot that linguistics and anthropology can benefit from. It is a shame that so many people who contact these cultures are there just to change them.
Best experience
I've just read Tom Wolfe's book about this man.
Is it good?
Interesting! I'll add to my reading list. I've actually came to know Everett through a book called Mastery, by Robert Greene
Brilliant!
They show us, how humans would live without the concept of *Me* which is the concept of *time* and *space*
Jasen Johnson It's amazing how we can come out of illusion.
Arjun 👍👍👍
Sorry, but I can guarantee you the Pirahã do have the concept for “me”.
Brilliant
Thank you Daniel Everett for your honest sharing. It resonates in me very deeply.
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Nice
I wonder why this is the only people that have this type of language & way of living? It must not be successful in a diverse world of environments if no other peoples utilize it.
Alguém aqui quer que eu traduza para o português?
Vá em frente!
Wow!
😊😊😊😊
Someone from Reddit ?
Can't believe he's from California. His accent sounds like Robert de Niro's.
These Pirahā people know wtf is up!!!!! :)
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Sounds like your belief in God and Jesus was really fragile. Feel really sorry about that and hope you will have an encounter with HIM again. A true one this time.
No true Scotsman fallacy detected.
I guess he discovered he doesn't need that. Why should he?
piraha, may their tribe increase
anybody here from the reddit post?
I am in agreement… walk in somebody else’s shoes … in our own backyards
This was cool until the part at the end where he claimed people with similar superficial immutable characteristics have similar thoughts.
Yup, And he went straight for the young white males
I wonder if they have morals...wow, if he explained the gospel like that, I'd be an atheist too.
Morals seem to be innate in humans regardless of religion
An amazing story lol
How language began: for a biological-comparative approach (different preadaptations to speech & language), google "Speech originS 2017 Verhaegen PPT".
People without a language as well.
nobody going to talk about how his shirt makes the white P behind him appear as it is natural?
You eat these leaves, that's why you can't talk our language very well
KRAAAAAAAAAAL
ödevi yapamadigim gerçeği de var ama
@@gokmenmutlu9810 boşver yaaa yapan da süper yapmadı zaten
Christianity poisoned the world
Humans are humans.
Loved the book. Not a fan of the diversity spiel. The reason the Pirahas exist and continue to exist is their unity and distrust of outsiders and outside information. It's strange that Daniel Everett flipped this simple idea to support the very opposite.
The point was that he was learning because he lived with the pirahas
@Tarl Denmark discrimination is pushed by the right-wing, often manipulative fearmongers who strive for power
I listened and thought the same thing. I've just finished his book and absolutely loved it. A fascinating story by a really likeable and interesting man. However, he states that the Piraha are the happiest people in the world, and in his book says that they are an extremely conservative (literally) people who do not want to learn anything from outside cultures. They are quite happy as they are and want no other influences on their way of life. At the same time, he says in order for us to thrive we must embrace diversity and learn from other cultures and ways of life, and not be so insular (not disagreeing with that necessarily). There seems to be a contradiction there which I'd like to hear his answer to. Perhaps he would say we are so different to the Pirahas and have evolved so far down the line in to a global society, that we should have a different outlook to them. Still, a lot of the book is about the fundamentals of human nature, and how he learned through what he thought they had right. Disappointed to hear him going full SJW at the end too. Anyway, highly recommend his brilliant book.
Please educate yourselves on this person. A lot of his research has largely been discredited, not taken seriously by any real linguist. Both because of methodology and his baseless claims. He came into this community for poor research, and failed to give back, not even telling them he was making a film. He knew they were in need of bilingual education and health resources, yet provided nothing. He actively declined to give anything in return. I study linguistics in university and I don't know of a single professor in the department who gives him merit.
@Language and Programming Channel May I know what your linguistic education background is? Or is it limited to reddit and pop science books. I'd love to hear it
Lol aka “I’m in a linguist department that views Chomsky as a God who can’t be wrong, and I watched the video online of a guy in Portuguese that can’t actually speak the tribal language make up baseless claims about Daniel. Then I went back into my linguistic echo-chamber and decided that’s all I need and he’s a fraud. Idc that many many other academics work and publish with Daniel in a variety of wholly creditable journals and textbooks.”
It’s sad that you are the type of person that’s going to be involved in the future of linguistics. Another dogmatic thinking college student. Go figure. And also the man speaking has x10 of the credentials that you have. I mean You literally tried to make an argument to authority to someone even though who you claimed is a fraud has way more education than you. Ironic no?
@@austinlang6946 Have you ever considered the possibility that a majority opinion prevails because that's just ... what most experts believe to be the case?
Piraha Exceptionality: a reassessment, Andrew Nevins, David Pesetsky, Cilene Rodrigues.
Evidence and argumentation: A reply to revert (2009)
If you can provide me with evidence that doesn't scream "I took an intro to linguistics course" please let me know.
Can I ask what your credentials are? I know you're going to interpret that as "are you also brainwashed?" but really I'm asking if you have a foundation in syntax / some kind of framework like x-bar theory. If you do, I am legitimately confused as to how you would buy into his research.
If a 12-year-old algebra student claims to have broken math, the entire mathematical world disagreeing with him is not an example of "dogmatic thinking"
Authority in academia is not awarded to that which is taught in institutions. It is awarded to those that withstand any and all contrary evidence and is able to remain as the most plausible explanation for something. Everett does not have that. Chomsky does. (in this particular department)
My education has nothing to do with it. I am aware of the evidence that exists and am able to analyze it as someone more than a nobody. I am not trying to disprove Everett's work myself.
A math student can tell if a proof above them is legitimate or not, even if they'd be unable to do that proof themselves.
The Piraha appear to be just fine.
Chomsky doesn't like this.
Whether you believe in Jesus’s divinity or not, to me, is irrelevant. The fact is he was a great leader who changed the world and died preaching a message of love. Nothing wrong with following him.
Many Christian’s believe in God and yet don’t believe in Heaven.
Just because you believe in God, the Christian God, does not mean you are afraid of death or no longer existing.
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If you walk away from a relationship because someone asked you a question that made you doubt your relationship.......you probably didn't have much of a relationship to begin with. Just a set of beliefs based on religion but not a clear relationship with Christ.
When i'm in a relationship with someone I usually know explicitly that they exist
Spare us that "you were never a true Christian" bs. It's just a tired throw argument people use to hand wave away why people leave the faith.
OMG...😂
This is why I don’t read the news. I try to live like I don’t believe anything is real outside our (the people I know) current situation
@Peanut Bear I am allowed to learn about other events/objects/patterns/systems etc, but if there is no sign of them around me I don't generally let myself think about them. E.g. transgenderism, climate science, foreign politicians, America (excluding Hawaii)
@@WhatMouse that is called ignorance
@@corpo9310 yes
Unbelief is not olny his problem...
Mark 16:14 Afterward Jesus appeared to the eleven themselves as they were reclining at table, and he rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they had not believed those who saw him after he had risen.
hate ted
A nice man, though I’m not sold on the “diversity of the exterior” that he’s propagating. Intellectual diversity can be found anywhere regardless of how people “look”.
Its a shortcut for new information. Genetic information, cultural information, ect. ect. Everyone is diffrent sure, but the major diffrences between cultures are there too.
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I'm pretty sure you introduced the skin color part. Dan was talking about Diversity of experience. It just so happens that western cultures are all pretty similar and therefore produce less intellectual variation
CONVERTER(using allurements) gets CONVERTED(without any allurements) : That's the best religion Christianity for you
"If everyone looks the same, you can bet this will not be an innovative company". YIKES! People of the same ethnic background cannot think differently from one another? No wonder this guys family disowned him.
If your company has people from many different backgrounds, those people will have many different ideas. More different than if it was all people from the same background.
Who said his family disowned him?
@@dennisduncan7561 His family.
@@mitral5333 Do you have a source for this?
@@bryanfongo327 it doesnt occur to you that maybe all that "different ideas" are of no benefit? all the human development until this century happened with no diversity
great talk, but he ruined it at the end with his babble of superficial diversity. we need diversity of thought, not looks
Think about it. Coming as an ex christian missionary, he probably had a well thought point when saying the things about physical differences, prevalence of white males and un-openness to new ideas etc.
Why not diversity of looks though?
A little more subtle than that I think. A diversity of thought often has a diversity of look. Buddhists to Muslims to Jews to orthodox Christians to traders in Marrakesh to Eskimos and on and on. He was just making that, more general, point.
He IS arguing for diversity of thought. That's exactly what he is doing.
@witkrieg todd No, no. That is not what he is doing. Listen to his words again. Dan Everett does not believe this sort of thing. I follow him closely and know his views quite well.
A very happy failure
He had the wrong idea of being a missionary. Being a missionary is not westernizing natives. The gospel is not about being happy, rich nor successful. It's about one's eternal soul. It's about knowing and acknowledging God as the Creator and about the afterlife.
But still wrong information.
I think the Parahas have the right idea here. Have they seen the afterlife? Jesus and the so called Creator enter their lives directly(and not through the word of a missionary?? No? Then until so, they shouldn't be adding another layer of mystery to their already hard life.
@@steventan2754 i myself am an atheist, but that logic is quite bad because with that reason alone the religious can criticise us for coming up with things we havent personally witnessed, even though there is overwhelming evidence.
@@steventan2754 hard life? How do you know it's hard? Only because you compare it to yours. They don't know your life. How do you know your life isn't hard to them?
Lmao you literally can't translate the Gospel into their language, so good luck trying to get them interested in it
How do you go from talking about a language to white men..?
Following a simple narrative thread too much of a challenge for you?