Stoicism as a philosophy for an ordinary life | Massimo Pigliucci | TEDxAthens

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  • Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
  • How to change your life for the better by practicing ancient Greco-Roman philosophy as a way of life. Massimo Pigliucci has a PhD in Evolutionary Biology from the University of Connecticut and a PhD in Philosophy from the University of Tennessee. He currently is the K.D. Irani Professor of Philosophy at the City College of New York. His research interests include the philosophy of biology, the science philosophy relationship, pseudoscience and the philosophy of Stoicism.
    Having published in national and international outlets such as the New York Times, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal, he is a Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and a Contributing Editor to Skeptical Inquirer. He owns two blogs: Plato’s Footnote on general philosophy and How to Be a Stoic on his personal exploration of Stoicism as practical philosophy.
    Pigliucci has also published 153 technical papers in science and philosophy, while he is the author or editor of 13 books, most recently of the best selling How to Be A Stoic: Using Ancient Philosophy to Live a Modern Life. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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  • @BigDuttyDeezeHD
    @BigDuttyDeezeHD 4 года назад +4230

    My Dad told me when I was very young:
    “don’t worry about things you can’t control because you can’t change them, and don’t worry about things you can control because you can change them”
    I obviously ain’t perfect but I recite this like a mantra daily and it’s always helped me.

    • @fibroyouralgia5575
      @fibroyouralgia5575 4 года назад +92

      Caveman Dan Oh. My. God. Thank you for sharing this. I just discovered stoicism and I’m already very aware this is something I was intentionally seeking to help change my life, however I have to say you’re comment quoting your dad, felt like it changed my mindset and perspective the second I read it. Thank you so much for that. I never had my dad around to teach me these kind of things; so glad you did though and thanks for sharing with me. And thanks to your dad too! 💕

    • @BigDuttyDeezeHD
      @BigDuttyDeezeHD 4 года назад +20

      Fibro YOURalgia glad I could help my friend, I study stoicism and Buddhism a lot in a quest to fix my mental health. Sorry to hear you fathers wasn’t around, stay smiling 👍☸️⚛️☯️

    • @HeartOfTheForest
      @HeartOfTheForest 4 года назад +28

      "I control nothing but manage everything."

    • @lydiatsch
      @lydiatsch 4 года назад +35

      My favorite byline is, "There are two things you should never complain about: The things you can't change, and the things you can change." I didn't realize when I adopted it how stoic it was, but the more I read, the more it seems like a perfect embodiment of ALL stoic philosophy.

    • @brandonderrick006
      @brandonderrick006 4 года назад +2

      good dad must be nice lol

  • @subscribefornoreason542
    @subscribefornoreason542 5 лет назад +1394

    "Emotions at the very basic level are the properties of the mind, don't let them dominate you. "

    • @raymondphilip6232
      @raymondphilip6232 5 лет назад +6

      Emotions can't be control. This I don't know. Now I know better. 1% better than yesterday.

    • @musiclaboratory9694
      @musiclaboratory9694 4 года назад +15

      It's "don't let them" part I trip over everytime to me with rage it doesn't feel like a choice it feels like it's happening to me as much as the people or surroundings I'm in when it happens

    • @Chic.Geek75
      @Chic.Geek75 4 года назад +1

      On that route...

    • @Concatenate
      @Concatenate 4 года назад +42

      The Stoics would define emotions as "thoughts about thoughts." And if you can control a thought, you can control your emotions. But even when you seemingly can't control your emotions, you can most certainly choose not to act with those emotions being the primary driving force.

    • @MrBrown-yw4oe
      @MrBrown-yw4oe 4 года назад +12

      Emotions come from your physical state and self-talk. Positive affirmations and fitness help influence these but total control is an illusion.

  • @inchbyinchstories
    @inchbyinchstories 3 года назад +177

    Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. - Seneca

    • @probrickgamer
      @probrickgamer 2 года назад

      Pretty sure that was Thpmas Edison

    • @inchbyinchstories
      @inchbyinchstories 2 года назад +8

      @@probrickgamer Pretty sure he stole it like several other stuff.

    • @jazaul7
      @jazaul7 Год назад

      Hoe about bad luck?

  • @jasonmcduffie160
    @jasonmcduffie160 5 лет назад +585

    "Worry about what's under your control." That's a liberating concept

    • @fvkijay
      @fvkijay 5 лет назад +11

      I'm sure many parents have told their kids that for generations. They just didn't want to listen lol

    • @Concatenate
      @Concatenate 4 года назад +17

      It is, and you must be almost zealous and dogmatic about it or else the world starts to suffocate you. Free yourself, only worry about the things in your direct control.

    • @robertkoch5553
      @robertkoch5553 4 года назад +5

      @@Concatenate Nothing is really in "your" control. Try to meditate and see how many involuntary thoughts pop up. You can speak of influence (on a continuum). Some are easier thwarted than others

    • @ksc743
      @ksc743 4 года назад +5

      @@fvkijay my parents certainly never taught me that. But would I have listened...! Certainly not as a teen. Maybe later. But they're both gone now, and I'm only just learning this now. Never too late!

    • @ihunterx59
      @ihunterx59 4 года назад +3

      no need to worry about it because it's under your control

  • @stoaphilosophy
    @stoaphilosophy 4 года назад +496

    Stoicism is such a practical philosophy.

    • @mrmcbeardy9268
      @mrmcbeardy9268 4 года назад +4

      "Pragmatic" 🙃💯
      Namaste 🙏

    • @johnpijano4786
      @johnpijano4786 3 года назад +16

      Well, the romans were a pragmatic people.

    • @ericreed4535
      @ericreed4535 Год назад +1

      @@johnpijano4786 As were the Greeks. Zeno lived on Cyprus in 300 b.c. The Romans got it from the Greeks 👍.

  • @sumeetkotaria858
    @sumeetkotaria858 4 года назад +452

    I think this is a very underrated video and an underrated topic. This video deserves atleast a million views.

    • @spherex6523
      @spherex6523 4 года назад +8

      Maybe just a majority of that millions of viewers, that you are missing don't deserve to see this video yet. Who knows... 🤔

    • @FoxCapStudios
      @FoxCapStudios 3 года назад +16

      “We should not trust the masses who say only the free can be educated, but rather the lovers of wisdom who say only the educated are free.” -Epictetus, Discourses, 2.1.21-23a

    • @LethalOwl
      @LethalOwl 3 года назад +12

      We’ve got a million. Here’s to a million more.

    • @iggykarpov
      @iggykarpov 2 года назад +6

      Oh, man - we got a stoic zoo here - Cynical Fox, Lethal Owl.

    • @Alexander-dz3tf
      @Alexander-dz3tf 2 года назад +2

      It has over 1 million views

  • @Robin19196
    @Robin19196 2 года назад +89

    This audience didn’t deserve him. Excellent talk!

    • @bakhytgul4457
      @bakhytgul4457 2 года назад +4

      I know right? He cracked me up several times, but audience stood suspiciously silent. Checked the screen couple of times just to make sure there were people there at all :))

    • @BNK2442
      @BNK2442 Год назад +1

      @@bakhytgul4457 I disagree. I followed him since the days he was a little respectable as a philosopher of science. The guy became more and more radical and these days he will say any nonsense that is fashianable. The guy lost all credibility he once had.

    • @bakhytgul4457
      @bakhytgul4457 Год назад +2

      @@BNK2442 yeah, I don't know his background honestly, but I found his speach so light and a bit entertaining, not radical at all, so it surprised me why people kept silent. Was this maybe a way to boycott him? ))

    • @jakeellis9755
      @jakeellis9755 2 месяца назад

      Maybe they got the wrong idea with stoicism lol, maybe they just thought they were supposed to keep a straight face and be indifferent to emotions 😂🤣

  • @waseemyaseen6830
    @waseemyaseen6830 3 года назад +495

    Stoicism is not just a philosophy, but it is a way of living well-balanced life.

    • @nestcuni
      @nestcuni 2 года назад +41

      That is what a philosophy is, a way of living.

    • @dynamis8381
      @dynamis8381 Год назад +22

      So… a philosophy?

    • @michaelharrison3602
      @michaelharrison3602 Год назад

      You can go to the gym eat healthily etc but you'll still die don't worry about death worry about lunch because you can do nothing about death

    • @farhanaditya2647
      @farhanaditya2647 Год назад +3

      That's actually what philosophy is

    • @waseemyaseen6830
      @waseemyaseen6830 Год назад +1

      I commented as compliment for Stoic philosophy. My comment shows I am highly inspired by Stoic Philosophy.

  • @poojabhandaari
    @poojabhandaari 4 года назад +321

    if these things were taught in my school or college.. i would not have taken so much time to heal.

    • @andrejbatarilo2703
      @andrejbatarilo2703 4 года назад +29

      Not something you have control over now, so why dwell on it

    • @tsvgoali8843
      @tsvgoali8843 3 года назад +3

      @@andrejbatarilo2703 this one I don't understand. I thought the highest motivation as a stoic is to do things for humanity. So by caring and telling his opinion, what the school should teaching the commenter followed this rule.
      On the other hand you said, that this is out of your control so he doesn't have to worry about it.
      So where could be the sweetspot to combine these two things?

    • @ArtSio443
      @ArtSio443 3 года назад +8

      i'm sorry to hear that, and I can relate to this too, I lost many valuable years in bad life and depression caused by sheer ignorance of the mind. But remember, it's never too late and NOW you have control, so the best in life lies ahead 👍

    • @h...........................
      @h........................... 2 года назад +1

      @@tsvgoali8843 you can't control others, but you can control yourself, and you can treat others with kindness and do things to make evryone feel better, the point is to not obsess over others because they are separate entities that cannot be controlled.

    • @josephcoon5809
      @josephcoon5809 2 года назад +6

      If these things were taught before college, colleges wouldn’t exist.

  • @yungdadi
    @yungdadi 5 лет назад +285

    Stoicism changed my life

    • @migueladrianvalevelazquez8703
      @migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 5 лет назад +3

      yungdadi same here

    • @SpritemaniacJ
      @SpritemaniacJ 4 года назад +3

      @@migueladrianvalevelazquez8703 Me TOO!

    • @SuperMadBloke
      @SuperMadBloke 4 года назад +2

      I'm only just researching it more now but agree

    • @omargonzales3
      @omargonzales3 4 года назад +4

      How can someone (me) learn more about stoicism and start practicing the teaching of it.

    • @3lijahh__
      @3lijahh__ 4 года назад

      yungdadi it’s a good way to raise your vibration

  • @weltkriegdrei3998
    @weltkriegdrei3998 4 года назад +457

    "unless a virus strikes you down"

    • @wilmercasallas5098
      @wilmercasallas5098 4 года назад +55

      LOL. Though, Marcus Aurelius had to deal with Antonine Plague, which killed 10million people from 150 to 180. Marcus Aurelius' command shined in all its brilliancy in how he fought with it. He, and the citizens, remained calm while he didn't run away from Rome. He stayed, and gave one of the biggest examples of the real good ruler the world needs.

    • @IIPapaMurphII
      @IIPapaMurphII 3 года назад +16

      Laughs in 2020

    • @DNYL_
      @DNYL_ 3 года назад +5

      Aged like fine wine

    • @horizon5677
      @horizon5677 3 года назад

      he knew

    • @ArtSio443
      @ArtSio443 3 года назад +2

      @@wilmercasallas5098 and he didn't even wanted to be an emperor!

  • @tonywalton1052
    @tonywalton1052 5 лет назад +2262

    After being shipwrecked he went to a bookstore

    • @bakedutah8411
      @bakedutah8411 5 лет назад +284

      That’s what you do after being shipwrecked. Everyone knows that. Well, a bookshop or a Starbucks.

    • @shobanana1
      @shobanana1 5 лет назад +149

      He was already a wise man.

    • @martinlarsson8947
      @martinlarsson8947 5 лет назад +57

      I go to the library when i miss the train. PotatO potAto.

    • @christiaanloedolff4467
      @christiaanloedolff4467 5 лет назад +49

      He couldn't find any bookstores on the ocean...

    • @deidrataylor2919
      @deidrataylor2919 5 лет назад +3

      @@christiaanloedolff4467 😂

  • @jesicaitzel6252
    @jesicaitzel6252 2 года назад +128

    Mi bisabuelo decía: "Si tu problema tiene solución, pa' que te preocupas? Y si tu problema no tiene solucion... ¿Pa' que te preocupas?"
    Alguien puso un comentario similar en inglés, y es bonito saber que existe este modo de pensar a pesar de la distancia, y por supuesto, de los años:)

    • @kristinasanchez8510
      @kristinasanchez8510 2 года назад +5

      Tu abuelo es sabio, esa frase es filosofía dicha por Dalai Lama .

    • @Dynamoe1836
      @Dynamoe1836 Год назад

      Abuelo sabio

    • @caiquefrancis
      @caiquefrancis Год назад

      bueno, nos preocupamos para poder reflexionar y solucionarlo...

    • @pinkyswearing1536
      @pinkyswearing1536 Год назад +3

      @@caiquefrancis para eso nos OCUPAMOS en la acción efectiva que resuelve el problema, preocuparse es innecesario, especialmente preocuparse como la mayoría del mundo hispanohablente percibe y transmite el concepto de “preocupación”. Un cálido saludo.

  • @tallytally3780
    @tallytally3780 5 лет назад +1452

    To whom stoicism seems like common sense hit like!

    • @aishwaryababu9352
      @aishwaryababu9352 5 лет назад +69

      Is common sense common though?

    • @tomanonym1168
      @tomanonym1168 5 лет назад +5

      Come what may.

    • @shanehoustein
      @shanehoustein 5 лет назад +47

      @@aishwaryababu9352 Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom.

    • @Concatenate
      @Concatenate 5 лет назад +3

      @@shanehoustein Great quote.

    • @derekanderson706
      @derekanderson706 5 лет назад

      Where does common sense come from?

  • @huarang4243
    @huarang4243 3 года назад +11

    WHAT STANDS IN MY WAY BECOMES MY WAY

  • @narjisbl2486
    @narjisbl2486 4 года назад +2418

    I felt bad when they didnt laugh at his jokes

    • @Neverender6
      @Neverender6 4 года назад +1790

      Don't feel bad, a speaker can't control whether or not his audience laughs at his jokes. As a stoic, he does not attach his self-esteem to the outcome, he only attaches it to what's under his control: his attempt. 😉

    • @luckyluke4276
      @luckyluke4276 4 года назад +253

      It’s because the microphone is not recording the audience

    • @Karl-pu5cn
      @Karl-pu5cn 4 года назад +70

      I'm sure it couldn't have bothered him haha

    • @popoymotmot
      @popoymotmot 4 года назад +172

      He's a stoic he doesn't care

    • @lightlynx435
      @lightlynx435 4 года назад +5

      Lucky Luke yeah but u hear them clap at the end

  • @Phoenix-tv4gb
    @Phoenix-tv4gb 3 года назад +31

    Stoicism is an indifference to the outward circumstances and getting all your power from within... It actually frees you up to do more with your life 😍💖🕊️

  • @fedev80
    @fedev80 4 года назад +129

    We need stoicism more than ever, a beacon from within the roots of our civilization that got lost in time somewhow. I think about any modern problem in the light of stoicism, and I'am amazed of how lost we are.

    • @danieldeiparine5716
      @danieldeiparine5716 3 года назад +14

      We maybe technologically advanced, but when it comes to us, we are truly lost.

    • @jeffmiller3499
      @jeffmiller3499 3 года назад +13

      Literally amazed. Our technology has long surpassed our ability to comprehend what it fully entails & more so the effect it has on us, society and all of nature.

    • @danieldeiparine5716
      @danieldeiparine5716 3 года назад

      @@jeffmiller3499 indeed

    • @Lapprenti-sage343
      @Lapprenti-sage343 3 года назад

      It's sad...

  • @reiden4055
    @reiden4055 3 года назад +14

    "Unless a virus strikes you down"
    I felt that. I think Stoicism could be really useful in our lives -especially today.

  • @ClintskySnakeMan
    @ClintskySnakeMan 5 лет назад +39

    Practicing Stoicism has helped me get through deaths, that I had zero control of, and things that did not work out or things I forgot and could not undo, and may etc. Things out of your control are just that, nothing you can do damn thing about!

  • @Jonedcc
    @Jonedcc 5 лет назад +253

    This is under rated

  • @TejaKarlapudi
    @TejaKarlapudi 3 года назад +103

    Stoicism is the most underrated philosophy. The one that actually helps humans deal with problems.

  • @Jason918114
    @Jason918114 4 года назад +73

    6:15 got real interesting. "If I die later, I'll take a lunch now."

  • @jakeparker9261
    @jakeparker9261 4 года назад +57

    I was reading his book: "How to be a stoic". Best book I've ever read!

    • @Evija3000
      @Evija3000 3 года назад +3

      Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @XDlosDominicans
    @XDlosDominicans 5 лет назад +397

    I'm currently reading (well, listening, through Audible) The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, and a lot of the things mentioned in the book, I find that I already do naturally. However, it gives added information and insight on the philosophy. Great read/listen!

    • @thienpham778
      @thienpham778 4 года назад +29

      Me, too, I have been stoic even before I discovered the term "stoicism". Truly a self discovery.

    • @Thepankaz1
      @Thepankaz1 4 года назад +6

      Most importantly it summarizes ur thoughts and gives powerfull mantras

    • @talkingbackwithmonick369
      @talkingbackwithmonick369 4 года назад +3

      I currently reading his book "HOW TO BE STOIC."

    • @diogeneslantern18
      @diogeneslantern18 3 года назад +2

      Like all philosophy, it is NOT a you should be listening to via audio book. It's meant to be contemplated line by line.

    • @lachyt5247
      @lachyt5247 2 года назад +18

      @@diogeneslantern18 Bad news for all blind people, apparently the only way a sentence can be contemplated is visually...

  • @docauch5938
    @docauch5938 3 года назад +15

    Somehow I’ve been practicing this for years without knowing

  • @d.b.s.6381
    @d.b.s.6381 2 месяца назад +2

    I read this man's books while in prison, and they helped tremendously with my stay there.
    And there is no better place I can think of to practice stoicism than in prison.

  • @REBTDoctor
    @REBTDoctor 5 лет назад +328

    Massimo does it again! A lovely 20-minute presentation on Stoicism. If you want to do more than just survive in life and if you want to live a meaningful life watch this video and learn about Stoicism from Massimo. He is an expert!

    • @Strongbodystrongsoul
      @Strongbodystrongsoul 5 лет назад +1

      Walter J. Matweychuk, PhD I agree 👍🏼

    • @howardquiscombe3855
      @howardquiscombe3855 5 лет назад +2

      Expert? I wouldn't take on trust the speaker's claim, without substantiation, that Nelson Mandela read Marcus Aurelius.

    • @CaroDuran29
      @CaroDuran29 3 года назад +1

      Completely correct.

  • @mementocatharsis9372
    @mementocatharsis9372 4 года назад +64

    To everyone saying you already do lots of this stuff - you're doing it because it's a part of your culture, which has been given Stoicism for hundreds of years. That's why you do it already. It's an ancient part of our culture

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 Год назад +5

      Westerners keep looking to other cultures for wisdom and denigrating our own when we already have that same wisdom in our own history. It may have been diluted and twisted by Christianity but it's always been with us.

  • @xensonar9652
    @xensonar9652 Год назад +9

    I think I was journeying towards stoicism before I knew it was even a thing. When I first discovered it, it was like a pair of shoes that fit me perfectly. Now it's just a matter of if I want to commit to the road and walk all the way.

    • @dannyarcher6370
      @dannyarcher6370 Год назад +1

      I just discovered Stoicism in the last couple of weeks having come to similar conclusions around seven years ago. I understand exactly what you mean.

  • @thetruth4654
    @thetruth4654 4 года назад +165

    I think Stoicism is one of the things that can help people get a life that isn`t just ordinary. It increases peoples productivity and if you put in enough work you can achive anything.

    • @freedomworks3976
      @freedomworks3976 Год назад

      If you put in enough work you can achieve anything

    • @shanghaiedsigrid
      @shanghaiedsigrid 6 месяцев назад +3

      Isn't he saying the opposite? Outcomes are beyond our control. You might not achieve what you aim for despite your best efforts. You should therefore put your sense of worth and value on your intentions and efforts, and not judge yourself by the outcomes.

  • @JCarter3000
    @JCarter3000 3 года назад +8

    Having a very Southern-US evangelical Christian upbringing, I can't resist the urge to say "amen!" or "Preach it" when I hear philosophy speak to my soul like this. It almost feels that we are brainwashed to overvalue extrinsic values (money, status, appearance, etc) instead of intrinsic values (time, enjoyment, and personal interests, etc). More people are learning the enormous value of philosophy as it becomes more relevant: We feel increasingly invisible. Many of us feel led to believe that, as individuals, we don't matter in this world and that life is pointless but that is wrong (if you think it). I hope for a day that we practically have "philosophy churches:" This stuff changes lives, hearts, and minds just as religions and it is needed today more than ever. The texts from the great philosophers are not put forth as "Divine truth" like holy books but their merit is self-evident: They can't receive tithes because philosophers are honest and would be repulsed by the idea lol. Also, Philosophy Rules.

  • @anthonyali5336
    @anthonyali5336 2 года назад +11

    18:01 "We wear a number of masks, and we change them continuously."
    18:16 "And the idea is that a happy life is, in fact, a life well balanced, where you play all these roles as the best actor you can possibly be."
    🤝

  • @ghostaskrens7012
    @ghostaskrens7012 5 лет назад +32

    Stoicism is life!

  • @Jesuslovesu23
    @Jesuslovesu23 5 лет назад +356

    Pretty insightful. I think the hard part is being able to think logically when emotional. I don't think we should disregard emotion but learning how to process them first instead of acting on impulse can be tricky for me. So recently I've been trying to more firmly establish what my values/goals and act accordingly. Hopefully that helps make things easier. Really liked this.

    • @yarazr12
      @yarazr12 5 лет назад +32

      this is why stoicism appeals to me; I find it hard to manage my emotions when I'm feeling them so intensely. With stoicism you don't deny their presence and intensity yet train yourself to think before you act on emotional impulses; pinpointing the reason behind our emotions and feelings is something I struggle with but once I rationalize them I gain back my power in a way. But totally agree and feel with you about thinking logically when emotional.

    • @dpayne6567
      @dpayne6567 5 лет назад +5

      Rational thinking and emotional thinking are two different states. Emotional is the nest where most of our problems are found. Our fears, our misguided nonsensical beliefs.

    • @gregshirley8070
      @gregshirley8070 5 лет назад +38

      A good place to start with learning how to control emotions, which is what I did at first, is to practice being the last to talk. Do not give into the impulse to share your idea or statement first. It is harder than it sounds, but once you master this you will be closer to your goal

    • @nikosorf4250
      @nikosorf4250 5 лет назад +6

      "Blinded from anger"
      Anger, or any other emotion can take control of your actions if intensified, when you're in that moment it's not your conscious mind that is in control, but your primal instincts
      Stoicism for me is about maintaining control of yourself

    • @ankit7343
      @ankit7343 5 лет назад +1

      How do you go about it @Raquel L ?? Did it helped keeping aside emotional part and being more logical in the first place ??

  • @ferdylondon
    @ferdylondon 3 года назад +20

    Still my go to philosophy for living. Currently in my life, there is a family problem far way from where I live. I can control nothing, add or take away nothing from the problem. Yet, I listen to all sides and am present virtually so that problems are expressed. In this case I am exercising courage by getting involved and doing the right thing and justice by enabling all sides the space and time to exert their doubts and worries. It is truly enlightening to see a philosophy slot into your life like this. I feel empowered.

    • @caiquefrancis
      @caiquefrancis Год назад

      did your problem come to a 'good' solution? I hope so!

  • @FromCommandotoYogi
    @FromCommandotoYogi 2 года назад +7

    Where has this been all my life. I'm been living like this since I can remember. Wow, this is beautiful! Everything seems to be flowing at the same time at the moment. Yeeehaaaa to life everyone ❤️

  • @user-gh5hi6fb4t
    @user-gh5hi6fb4t 2 года назад +20

    When you read the book, of course you realize how crumpled and hurried this performance is. But Pillucci had to meet the allotted time, and he did it as worthily as possible.
    If you liked this video, get yourself a book by the author, "How to Be Stoic?" . It is definitely worth it.
    Very thanks!

  • @michaelbarry8513
    @michaelbarry8513 Год назад +3

    Stoicism is also indifference to both pleasure and pain.....and while it is easy to be indifferent to pleasure it is extremely difficult to be indifferent to pain.

    • @geronimomiles312
      @geronimomiles312 Год назад

      They admit pain is felt and that the body is not really under our control.
      But people often do things despite the prospects of pain or expectations about pleasure. That's where the courage comes in , and the integrity of a sense of justice.
      In the story the guy who abandoned his kid ,he caved in fear about his emotional pain, and the stoic view is that this is wrong.
      The philosophy is not magic or movie memes, and should not be expected to be. ( Such would be a straw man argument, that stoicism is BS because it does not render flesh into stone.)
      If one has ever done things they did not want to, or has ever endured , then one has validated the point in their own lives , that they can indeed assign a level of indifference to pleasures and pains.
      A hugely obese person may fail to control the desires of diet , being more indifferent to the creaking joints , diabetes symptoms and so forth.
      It is not so easy to forsake leisure and pleasures as one may think.
      So if you do exercise such control you should give yourself some credit, and a degree of forgiveness to yourself for being human, rather than superhuman.
      Imo

    • @jacklabonte6839
      @jacklabonte6839 7 месяцев назад

      I found that with practice I was able to become quite indifferent to pain.
      I wanted to start a meditation practice, but I have frequent migraines, and they were always a hindrance to a meditative state(or so I thought).
      Anyway, one day I decided to try and make my migraine pain the object of my meditation.
      It's very difficult to verbalize how this works. It sounds counter intuitive, but it really works. I started focusing in on the pain, and just tried to experience it as just a sensation, but not labeling it as "pain".
      So every migraine I would just sit back and "sink" into the sensation. After a month of this I realized that although I didn't have less migraines, they didn't register as a painful thing.....merely only as a sensation.
      Anyway, I don't know if this us related to the topic, or if anyone else here has had a similar experience?

  • @localrachel
    @localrachel Год назад +1

    Emotions are the best compass for understanding personhood: our trauma and unmet needs especially. Ignoring, rejecting or minimising emotions or believing they are unhelpful or unwanted are misding huge parts of what make us full beings having a human experience.

    • @rexaustin2885
      @rexaustin2885 5 месяцев назад

      After having lived a significant part of my life through stoicism, I am starting to realise one needs both emotions and stoicism in different combinations at different times, depending on the individual.
      Neither one is enough.

  • @williammorse8330
    @williammorse8330 5 лет назад +117

    The part about "saving energy" and not wasting time and emotion on that which is not under our control speaks to me. The
    whole concept of stoicism reminds me of "existentialism" which Jean Paul Sartre held to in the main message of his
    writings.... do your best, what you feel is right and don't focus on the result.
    thanks for uploading!

    • @manukrishnasadhak1320
      @manukrishnasadhak1320 5 лет назад +2

      Its Bhagavad Gita.

    • @iknowsomestuff7131
      @iknowsomestuff7131 2 года назад +1

      @@manukrishnasadhak1320 true ! Same kind of thing there too .

    • @freedomworks3976
      @freedomworks3976 Год назад

      Existentialism is my favorite philosophy stoicism is my very close second

    • @jht3fougifh393
      @jht3fougifh393 Год назад

      Yikes, don't think about results? Sounds kind of the opposite of Stoicism! Am I misunderstanding...?

    • @victoralvarez1610
      @victoralvarez1610 11 месяцев назад

      @@jht3fougifh393 stoicism, as I understand, establishes that moral value is found only in one’s decision to act; the thing upon which the act is made has no moral value so it is not worth the stoic’s concern beyond simply knowing its practical impact and whether it may be a preferred indifferent.

  • @crystalflores9735
    @crystalflores9735 2 года назад +6

    I didn't know about stoicism until I stumble on this video. This guy deserves a credit!

  • @anonymus3219
    @anonymus3219 Год назад +1

    13:36 this is where, in my opinion, Buddhism trumps all other ways because it tells you that *you do* have control over your emotions, and it has the best guide to controlling them IN ADDITION to having tons of philosophy covered by Stoicism and Taoism

  • @kenwohleking8819
    @kenwohleking8819 5 лет назад +292

    Correction: Spider-man didn’t say “With great power comes great responsibility” ; It was Uncle Ben & Aunt May.

    • @shaduck06
      @shaduck06 5 лет назад +6

      Voltaire: Les Représentans du peuple se rendront à leur destination, investis de la plus haute confiance et de pouvoirs illimités. Ils vont déployer un grand caractère. Ils doivent envisager qu’une grande responsabilité est la suite inséparable d’un grand pouvoir. Ce sera à leur énergie, à leur courage, et sur-tout à leur prudence, qu’ils devront leur succès et leur gloire.
      Here’s one possible translation into English:
      The people’s representatives will reach their destination, invested with the highest confidence and unlimited power. They will show great character. They must consider that great responsibility follows inseparably from great power. To their energy, to their courage, and above all to their prudence, they shall owe their success and their glory.

    • @shaduck06
      @shaduck06 5 лет назад +14

      Luke 12:48.
      From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
      For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

    • @mikehoy3630
      @mikehoy3630 5 лет назад +3

      It was Marcus araliuse

    • @mikehoy3630
      @mikehoy3630 5 лет назад +1

      Said that

    • @bambooindark1
      @bambooindark1 5 лет назад +11

      I think I totally got the point from this talk, so what equipment/gear should I buy first for being Spider Man?

  • @Satsui_No_Hado
    @Satsui_No_Hado 4 года назад +68

    Massimo is so good , I love listening to his lectures on stoicism and his Ted talk is fantastic , one of my guides into learning and applying stoicism , fantastic work Massimo!

  • @MRZE506
    @MRZE506 3 года назад +3

    Stoicism changed and saved my life I highly recommend people to check out the philosophy

  • @thomashurt2409
    @thomashurt2409 3 года назад +2

    Perfect speech thank you. RIP philosopher emperor Aurelius and other great guys

  • @marnagchauhan1406
    @marnagchauhan1406 Год назад +2

    On another note, this is also one of the core philosophies of karma yoga explained in the Bhagwad Gita. Interesting to see how great philosophies and thoughts conveyed the same truths of life, justifies the ‘truth’ remaining constant in all spheres of life!

  • @anuragadhikari8666
    @anuragadhikari8666 4 года назад +48

    Stoicism has been taught in Hindu Vedanta. I am surprised at the striking resemblance.

    • @readingsteiner6061
      @readingsteiner6061 4 года назад +5

      Anurag Adhikari Could you please list out a few resemblances. I don’t know much about Hinduism in general.

    • @apocalypsedragon
      @apocalypsedragon 4 года назад +19

      Perform action, but do not be attached to the results.
      Treat victory and disaster as the same.
      Both are themes mentioned in the Bhagavat Gita, which is one is the principal texts of Advaita Vedanta

    • @eziogallicchio4729
      @eziogallicchio4729 2 года назад +6

      At that time (around 300 BC) there had been many cultural exchanges between indian and greek civilisations following the conquest of parts of India by Alexander the Great few decades earlier. They likely influenced each other.

  • @donna.g7442
    @donna.g7442 5 лет назад +20

    I first learned about Stoicism in 1963 in an introductory Philosophy course. I have put 3 of the cardinal virtues of Stoicism on my side of our tombstone (happily married 53+ years with kids and grandkids). The virtues are: pietas (moral duty), dignitas (honourable behaviour and self-worth), and gravitas (appropriate self-control). These are aspirations to live by. I have found that a pragmatic and modern contextual understanding of the Enchiridion works for me. Jordan Peterson's messages are in essence pragmatic Stoicism, I believe.

    • @TheRisskee
      @TheRisskee 5 лет назад

      What about Logos? Pietas, Dignitas, and Gravitas are essentially nonexistent without Logos.
      I love that the stoic principles are on your grave marker. For those of us who enjoy a stroll through a graveyard and for the generations to come that might study us in the future, it's important for them to read such things in order to keep philosophy alive.

    • @aadinathkorade3037
      @aadinathkorade3037 4 года назад

      Patrick G. Hi

  • @charlesbatkin9783
    @charlesbatkin9783 5 лет назад +37

    I think the hard thing is when you look at something no longer under your control, that was, and is out of your control due to your actions.

    • @friendli29
      @friendli29 4 года назад +3

      Then perhaps it is something that was never truly under your control to begin with. Applying essential stoic philosophy, I can't think of a single example of what you are talking about, to be honest.

    • @x0rtdan
      @x0rtdan 4 года назад

      you only have control over your reason and higher-thinking, until, of course, some virus doesn't take it that from you either. Probably everything else is not under your control.

    • @Karl-pu5cn
      @Karl-pu5cn 4 года назад +1

      @@friendli29 I have a potential example. I say potential as I'm unsure wether or not its fitting. I have my xmas tests in 3 days. I have 3 months worth of work in 7 subjects to have revised over in preperation for these tests. I haven't started yet. So even right now getting excellent results is impossible. But it was possible in the weeks leading up to it. So it went from under my control to the point where, If I went for good grades, its now out of my control. Maybe thats an example? Or another thing could be you started an unstoppable self destruct sequence.

    • @MeetMyGreenBud7
      @MeetMyGreenBud7 4 года назад +2

      @@Karl-pu5cn That means you should have worried about it while you could change it. In the moment you lost control than your stoic mind will clear it out of your head.

    • @Argail8137
      @Argail8137 3 года назад

      He is talking abt pussies

  • @eponaepona
    @eponaepona 7 месяцев назад +2

    There are several philosophic approaches that in fact I practice and here Stoicism is explained beautifully. Thanks TEDx ❤

  • @kalkidanabrham742
    @kalkidanabrham742 5 лет назад +5

    I am very greatfull to all the hardship i faced,it introduce me to stoicism philosphy.

    • @bjarkifreyrbjarnason9419
      @bjarkifreyrbjarnason9419 5 лет назад

      So am I, brother. We may not choose what happens to us in life - but it is in our power to try to understand our surroundings, the people closest to us, how and why we think the way we do - and ultimately become the best version of ourselves.

  • @JNeil1975
    @JNeil1975 2 года назад +14

    I am thoroughly enjoying his book "How to be a Stoic." I am very drawn to Stoicism and Taoism.

  • @msmith53
    @msmith53 Год назад +1

    Stoicism requires learning, logic and intelligence! And discipline.....

  • @christ2551
    @christ2551 2 года назад +1

    This speaker literally put the audience into a state of stoicism.

  • @greenqueen8504
    @greenqueen8504 4 года назад +4

    makes for a stress free life to live and think this way

  • @Strongbodystrongsoul
    @Strongbodystrongsoul 5 лет назад +6

    I love your work - thank you !🙏🏻

  • @richardmell299
    @richardmell299 2 года назад +1

    Stoicism helps attain a clarity of thought, through the darkest times that one will endure through life.

  • @MMABeijing
    @MMABeijing 4 года назад +17

    one of the rare TED lecture that i find good

  • @user-cc8oj2by8i
    @user-cc8oj2by8i 3 года назад +5

    Learned Stoicism, how it's pronounced, and all, in less than 20 mins.. thanks😀

  • @Mahesh-es8zm
    @Mahesh-es8zm 5 лет назад +10

    It seems like the saying of Bagavad Gita- you do your best work don't worry about the outcome.. and the other is middle path suggested by Budhha don't donthing in extreames choose middle path

  • @ialicat9074
    @ialicat9074 3 года назад +2

    I love this. I often say to my daughter, all I expect of you in life is to try your best and be kind/nice.

  • @Lance54689
    @Lance54689 5 лет назад +5

    Over the last few years I've come to some of this on my own, and it has been quite effective. I'm looking forward to delving more into Stoicism.

  • @raykobud
    @raykobud 5 лет назад +7

    Thank you Massimo!

  • @zakia8623
    @zakia8623 Год назад +3

    My interest I'm Greek philosophy is recent. I find stoicism easy to understand and also practical . It reminds of some of the teachings of lord Buddha.
    And sir,you have explained it very well. Thank you very much

  • @user-jw5vt9rw1b
    @user-jw5vt9rw1b 4 месяца назад

    8:55 "So you do not attach your own self-esteem to the outcome;"🤩

  • @patrickglass9323
    @patrickglass9323 2 года назад +5

    Brilliant lecture: succinct and superbly delivered! Thank you very much, Massimo.

  • @YadiAnyankah
    @YadiAnyankah 5 лет назад +4

    Truly inspiring.

  • @blackpicaso9762
    @blackpicaso9762 3 года назад +4

    This video changed my life.

  • @freedomworks3976
    @freedomworks3976 3 года назад +2

    Best talk ever on the Stoa

  • @astitvamanikpuri4411
    @astitvamanikpuri4411 4 года назад +2

    One of the underrated talks I guess. He told so many things but, as said, it our choice whether we take/apply it or not.

  • @itsdevgarg
    @itsdevgarg Год назад +3

    One of my life changing videos!

  • @nansalonica4585
    @nansalonica4585 2 года назад +3

    Excellent talk - I love MP's approach and his way of explaining stoicism - really superb.

  • @motivationwavedailypositiv2857
    @motivationwavedailypositiv2857 2 года назад +2

    So much wisdom in a video 🔥🔥 Thank you!

  • @AddictedToCandyx
    @AddictedToCandyx 2 года назад +1

    Super nice break down of stoicism. It's a nice video to start like my morning. You cant control life, but when you give up that is your fault.

  • @davidwestwood6850
    @davidwestwood6850 5 лет назад +6

    Excellent talk with import.

  • @skiegehrig1035
    @skiegehrig1035 5 лет назад +3

    one of my favorites!

  • @missoyen
    @missoyen Год назад

    Everytime i felt bad about something I cannot control. I always go back to stoicism quotes and to Stoic Philosophers. This video is a must to watch.Thank you for sharing this video

  • @ahmetyuce9820
    @ahmetyuce9820 Год назад

    I feel like everything I have ever experienced and intuitively learned throughout my life in 30 years have been summed up in this video

  • @shaukatmi
    @shaukatmi 5 лет назад +12

    I came across "Stoicism" while studying Greek Philosophy and reading about Marcus Aurelius. This presentation highlights the origins and adds to the modern practical aspects of the philosophy. Thanks Tedx Athens..

  • @khaledelmasry1961
    @khaledelmasry1961 5 лет назад +27

    Dude, great piercing professor! cool guy

  • @pdias8469
    @pdias8469 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Massimo for this great presentation and what a great presentation it is. Absolutely one step at a time.

  • @uliseslira577
    @uliseslira577 4 года назад +1

    I just have one word. Stunning performance and he truly have an excellent expertise!

  • @Parnesicle
    @Parnesicle 5 лет назад +22

    John Wooden, the great NCAA basketball coach and author of the Pyramid of Success, summed it up this way: "Success is peace of mind, which is a direct result of self-satisfaction, in knowing you did your best to become the best you are capable of becoming."

  • @celtongerilla6595
    @celtongerilla6595 5 лет назад +5

    Oh, thank you. This is very helpful. Now, I know that I / we can't really force someone to love you / us. 😇

  • @Oracle842
    @Oracle842 10 месяцев назад

    💚How much I love Philosophy. 💚 I hope to cross paths with so many philosophers across the world. 💚

  • @rudbeckia885
    @rudbeckia885 5 лет назад +2

    Great thinking ...well said

  • @skweruth3543
    @skweruth3543 3 года назад +3

    one of the great talks I've heard so far

  • @Thelastwarrior
    @Thelastwarrior 5 лет назад +2

    Beautifully said

  • @jrob8071
    @jrob8071 2 года назад +1

    This is the best lesson of stoicism I’ve had so far. Thanks.

  • @lynninfinite
    @lynninfinite 2 года назад +2

    I’m very much interested in learning to be less reactive and moving the letter C from the middle to the beginning: creative. Finding outlets to express myself so that I don’t expend my energy reacting too quickly and harshly. I find that my emotional energy is finite each day and resets each morning, so I’d like to preserve my emotional energy for positive & healthy interactions 🙂

  • @gilgamesh7264
    @gilgamesh7264 3 года назад +3

    I never realized I already practiced stoicism, I always thought I was different for the way I think compared to most people I know. But I didn't learn about what stoicism is until an episode of Gotham.

  • @Phoenix-tv4gb
    @Phoenix-tv4gb 3 года назад +5

    He missed the point... By getting all your power from within you're actually maximizing your life!!! 😍💖🕊️🎶

  • @dzw2012
    @dzw2012 2 года назад +1

    Just thank u for the energy en wisdom you share

  • @rahulbohra8338
    @rahulbohra8338 3 года назад +1

    WOW...one of the best TED Talks ever....

  • @aggrofreakanton
    @aggrofreakanton 5 лет назад +4

    I'm really glad I found this talk and read his book, it has changed my life for the better!

    • @Concatenate
      @Concatenate 5 лет назад +1

      You should also pick up The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday. 366 quotes from the ancient Stoics with a little bit of riffing by Holiday. It is excellent and will only help you to focus on each day as we all ought to do.

    • @Thisismohit.
      @Thisismohit. 5 лет назад

      Name of book please

    • @tatianahawaii13
      @tatianahawaii13 2 года назад

      ❤️

    • @rahulb9059
      @rahulb9059 2 года назад

      @@Thisismohit. Well it's been 2 years but incase you still want to know, he wrote a book called 'How to be a Stoic'. Hope that helps!

  • @alandrus2734
    @alandrus2734 5 лет назад +15

    Simply live a life of conscience. Be happy, live, and love. Remember, always do your best,you can do no more

  • @downwithosama1
    @downwithosama1 2 года назад

    This is a great video I'm going to forward it to people that I know and hope that it can help them through the trials and tribulations in life so that they can control or they can control and not be stressed about what they cannot control.

  • @KingHaich
    @KingHaich 5 лет назад +1

    THANK YOU!