Alternative Zippo Fuel tests
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Testing alternative fuels for Zippo style lighters rather than the usual "lighter fluid" liquid fuel.
Many places online claim that Mentholated spirits, colognes/perfume and rubbing alcohol are good alternatives to liquid lighter fuel.
In this video I put those to the test with a Star lighter, a Zippo windproof lighter and an IMCO Junior lighter.
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It’s not watered down. It’s hydrotreated. Which means that during refining, it was heated up under pressure in the absence of oxygen, then hydrogen gas was added, breaking the ringed hydrocarbons like benzene, toluene, xylene, etc. Those are known as VOCs (volatile organic compounds) and also as aromatics. They are what makes petroleum smell bad. They are also all known carcinogens, which is why the producers hydrotreat lighter fluid. They don’t want you getting cancer from the lighter fluid while you’re getting cancer from tobacco.
Sempre me questiono se o fluido de isqueiro seria cancerígeno, obrigado por esclarecer
One day, you’ll learn the hard way not to mix your fuels when you accidentally make a mini flame thrower. Happened to me with a homemade alcohol stove
Samke thing happened to me, the chimney bursted into a massive flame and i got 2nd degree burns all over my hand.
Methanol has an almost invisible flame, especially in the daytime.
in winter I mix the lighter fluid for my imco with a _little_ bit of 99.x% isopropanol to make it easier to light in the cold...
That's a clever idea.
Thanks!
That's a good idea!
Nice intuition
@Polska Szlachta fun fact, ethanol is hygroscopic and will rapidly lose potency above 96% or so
the zippo was not burning in the beiginning as the methylated alchool has a higher ignition point than the lighter fuel or the old spice. When u put the old spice in it burned which made heat and burned the methyl alchool, creating that smmi transparant flame.
karts and cars its not even a zippo, its a fake one
lord poo it works the same you piece of buned lasagna
@@kaliumnitraat yeah but even though it lights using the same flint, if it doesn't have an arbitrary logo then it doesn't count /s
I think Naptha and Everclear are the best lighter fluid alternatives. Naptha is really similar to lighter fluid if you can find it for a discount. And Everclear is just handy for many things, whether you want to drink it, clean with it, or use it as a fuel it will not disappoint you in a survival situation. Otherwise use Zippo or Ronsonol, either is good.
When i was a kid we used to spray deodorant on to the wick and light it. Worked well enough to light a cigarette but it stank a bit!
You can also use a deodorant can as a flamethrower, if I could find a Naphtha similar to lighter fluid it would be a far cheaper way of buying it.
am i catching that you were lighting cigarettes as a kid
@@LoneWolfUprising Yeah, obviously, along with probably at least 50% of other people when they were a kid, trying out smoking.......
@@ICanSeeYou247 yeah apparently one of my friends used to smoke cigarettes she found on the ground so i don't even know anymore
When I run out of feul , I use brut deodorant , works a charm
Methanol is also toxic through inhalation and skin contact. You can go blind really easily. Luckily enough, most "methylated" spirits don't contain methanol in XXI century, but the one you have actually does. The flame was nearly colourless, which is a characteristic sign that it contains methanol. I tried using acetone as a fuel and it works well enough.
Inhalation of vapors or combustion when the AFR is rich. It’s really not more toxic than gasoline though, it’s less volatile and the exposure limit for methanol is a bit higher than gasoline. It also burns cleaner than gasoline and when the ratio is rich it produces aldehydes. But better than inhaling straight piped exhaust from a gasoline engine. This is all known from methanol being choice fuel for top alcohol dragsters and the cut for the nitro in top fuel.
I have always left my lighter standing on the chimney for a bit after adding fuel. Makes sense to me that it helps it soaks the wick quicker with the assistance of gravity.
HEY man i tested isopropilic alcoho and work really well
Did it smell of old spice when lit?, lol, one big bonus with "petrol" lighters is being able to use many different fuels
Not really, it had more of the mentholated spirit smell from beforehand. I'm going to see somewhere if I can buy a bottle of Naphtha as that's what the majority of the Zippo lighter fluid is, so it should work just as well but it's far far cheaper.
How did the naphtha do???
2:50 “Here goes nothing…”
Lighter: ur spot on pal
In France we use also f type gasoline that work like Zippo fluid, because that is a slow evaporation, but I don't know if you have that in USA, we can buy in with cleaning products like white spirit, 2€ by liter. Personally I only use that.
Ah cool we can buy white spirit in the UK.
@@Weaponsandstuff93 not whites spirit, just the same place in the market (I don't know how to say), it's called f type gasoline. You need a fluid that evaporated slowly or it will be like the RUclips videos of guy trying with car fuel and have a 10 meter flame, plus it will dry quickly
I think that is what we call Coleman Fuel or White Gas. I'm experimenting with a mixture of 1 part Naphtha with 3 parts White Gas as an alternative lighter fuel.
Flame of methanol is mostly invisible. Same with ethanol. You can make it visible, but it's not very easy, you need a lot of sparks
Classic RUclips moment; Zippo Alternative Fuels video. Intro is “I don’t have a Zippo or much alternative fuels”!
Well, i's out of the zippo fuel, but then i remembered i hv a can of thinner in the basement. I dont know the brand. I guess it's cheap thinner i bought few months ago. I use it and it works.
Rubbing alcohol is mixture of 30% alcohol and upto 70% water hence it won't burn.
If I remember right, I think the alcohol burns at a lower temperature also
Can't imagine old spice is good to breathe in... And pretty sure that sound was your dry wick burning
One tip I heard of but have never tried myself, is to use the oil/syntetic petro mixesl that you can get for small 2-stroke engines, chainsaws etc (with 2-3% oil). The syntetic fules gives less smell and a clean burn and the oil probably gives a bit of calmer burn. Might be worth testing.
Red Diesel apparently works as well.
I use it myself actually, it works very well
Poundland brand nail varnish remover (mostly Acetone) when last seen 400ml bottle for £1 works ferociously well in Trangia type stoves, and their copies, but...I have never thought to put it on a Zippo, I respect my fingertips too much
HA HA 😇
I tried with ethanol and it light successfully, but it doesn't last long due to the high evaporation rate of alcohol.
Ohhh boyyy new vid!
Alcohol doesn't work well because it's bonds are very weak between each carbon chain.
Meths must try harder.
i have been using a mix of turpentine and regular gasoline :D But it works well
Good to know thanks
This is an old video but from what I have seen there are a few good alternatives. The lighter fuel in the bottle is in my opinion a waste of money (you are paying for the bottle) unless you use little lighter fuel.
"Naptha" is probably the best alternative for the cost
"Colman white gas" is also a good alternative.
My issue is that there has been little in the way of cold tests with said fuels.
That rubbing alcohol basically is too watery. I see it didn't have the flammable symbol, so it was too dilute to burn.
Great vid keep up the good work
Cheers.
*Sparking intensifies*
Ayy i just buyed 5 of deez zippos in Berlin :)
Acetone works decently. but dries out very fast
I dunno if you know, but you can Pull the wick out and Trim the old bit.
Ronsonol is generally cheaper
Paint thinner wouldn't work. They are mostly DCM (dichloromethane aka methylene chloride) and it is non-flammable. It is like chloroform but slightly less toxic.
Nice vid pal very educational
WD40 works like a treat
Yes, but beware, as it lowers your zipoos life expectancy.
A few drops of 3in 1 oil in a zippo keeps it from drying out forever mine still lites months after filling now
Interesting thanks I'll try that
Samuel Lacavera do you add the fuel first, then add 3 in 1? Or just use 3 in 1?
Hello. What is this 3 in 1 oil. Things are not called the same everywhere. Like what is that 3 stands for or the composition of this oil.
3 N 1 - Light Mineral OiL
I would just use the Zippo lighter fluid it's not that expensive. Hydrotreated Light Naphtha is the main solvent in zippo lighter fluid, about 30%, I'm not sure what the other 70% is. the MSD sheet says it's Light Hydrotreated Distillate. TSCA Definition 2019: A complex combination of hydrocarbons obtained by the distillation of products from the light distillate hydrotreating process. It consists of hydrocarbons having carbon numbers predominantly in the range of C6 through C9 and boiling in the range of approximately 3.degree.C to 194.degree.C (37.degree.F to 382.degree.F).
I would say:
Acetone, dilute it slightly with water to limit the solvent evaporation.
It working?
@@husseinkhatib8637 yeah, it works. I use it for around a month now
@@1brytollike 10 % water and 90 % acetone?
@@husseinkhatib8637 i don't know the exact amounts, but something like this
@@1brytol 👍
ethanol actually works very well
I used vodka once worked fine
Cool. My spring tip is a little worn out, not that worn out (I thought that was the flint), is this ok?
Old Spice. Respect!
Apparently, Coleman stove fuel is the only satisfactory alternative to naphtha lighter fuel.
Use isopropyl alcohol that's like 93% and that will work again to you in the United States I don't know about a new year route or Great Britain
For you guys, iam using benzene and it works perfectly
I use it too but I feel it doesnt last as long... do u feel the same? I dunno why no one talks about this...
Santiago Garcia Monsante no its good and last long except smoke, make sure your lighter is fully closed
denatured alcohol works nicely.
Does isopropyl work? It doesn't soot like ethanol
Whenever my zippo out of fuel i fill a bowl with gasoline and dip it and let it absorb then take it out blow on it to evaporate the exces gas and its works fine
That sounds crazy! You’re probably kidding but if you aren’t that is really insane.
alcohol has a lot of water in it about 40 % water
It kinda depends on what percentage that you buy.
Computer duster works too but gives off a really nasty smell
I just got done huffing zippo fliud
It's great
I just put a few drops of meths on an unused wick in a brand new zippo insert and it lit up just fine!?
Methanol burns blue, but ethanol burns blue with yellow streaks in it and is harder to see.
Mineral spirits or maybe charcoal lighter fluid?
Try White Spirits
zippo fluid is white gas coleman fuel is the same and works great
Actually, Zippo lighter fluid is Naptha. White gas is different, but I've heard it works.
F to his flint wheel😔
Wick didn't like the old spice
Can you buy Zippo fluid in Cali if you're under 18?
Google is your friend
I would imagine that any "alternative fuel" test would require gasoline, benzine and possibly other sources as well. Your selection seems very limited. rubbing alcohol, methalated spirits and colognes all have the same alcohol molecule in it. So ... its was a pointless test. Same result with all 3 really.
I use benzene works well
Sometimes I use 96% álcool and it works.
nribeiro5401 same
@@gooddog9470 but it does not ignite very well.
Can i use ethanol?
jose reyes jes
methylated spirits is mostly just ethanol not methanol
91 percent alcohol is probably better for s hot times
Cool video
Thanks
-poured old spice...
smels like poweeeeerrrrrrrrr!!!!!! pppppp power!!!
xDDD
Where abouts in England are you from? I can't quite place your accent
Oxford, nobody really has an accent here, unless you're a Berk.
From the rhyming slang Berkshire Hunt.
can someone explain to me why there is copper wire in the zippo cord ... does it have any function?😱😱
I believe it just gives it rigidity; stops it flopping all over the place.
Both times you flooded it. Put a match to the wick.
Does true fuel 50:1 mix work?
Never tried it.
I don’t think it has ethanol
use shellite fluid
can you smoke using those
u over filled the fluid weight longer so it can dry out before use.
Use washing benzine
Denatured alcohol would probably work.
nope i tried it
guys don't listen to what this person is saying rather this guy to use an alternative to refill your zippo lighter ......
listen to a collector of original zippo lighters has what he is telling you .....
1) you only ruin it and then throw it away .....
2) if you send it to the parent company ..... it sends you back with a nice letter .....
by telling you ...... we cannot repair it because you used a non-suitable petrol ......
you had to use our original zippo petrol ....
Goodbye and thanks......
best regards
Weaponsandstuff93 Would the lighter fluid I use for my outdoor grill work?
Maybe not sure if it would clog the lighter though.
Weaponsandstuff93 I ended up trying that and it seems to work fine. No smoke. Barely any smell.
Like si quieres un Zippo
U don't need to wait a few minutes to let it soak in. As soon as it's filled there is drips dripping off the wick. Guess u don't know anything about ZIPPO lighters
Or you can just use Ronson lighter fluid, it's only $4.00 for 148ml (5oz)
"LIghter fuel is basically watered down petrol"? What are you talking about? Why make a video when you have no idea what you are talking about? This is what is REALLY wrong with the Internet. You also claimed that methylated spirits was methanol? It isn't. Please stay off the Internet until you actually know something.
Could you use rubbing alcohol? Or some sort like that?
Rubbing alcohol tends to burn very fast and evaporate even faster than liquid lighter fuel. It would light and it makes a lot of flammable vapour, but after lighting the lighter I think it would have drained and got very hot within a minute.
I think you had too much fuel and not enough oxygen getting to the flame🔥
Bioethanol doesn't work very well.
What about lighter fluid for barbiques
oh shit they do zippo fuel in pound land XD
And the winner issssss
Lighter fluid is petrol with water in it.
Not totally, if you look at the ingredient list there's a lot of other things in there, it's more Naphtha than normal petrol.
They use Naptha because it evaporates better than petrol.
Apparently gasoline is similar to petrol
Depends if you're using the interchangeable term or the scientific one
Where can i buy lighter fluid?
Amazon/eBay/Physical stores
Weaponsandstuff93 cheers man :)
Walmart
Petroleum ether would be nice, but it is extremely volitile which means:
-you will loose the fuel quickly
-it is extrmely dangerous.
Petroleum is toxic, but in its "out of the gas station pump" form it is impure which limits its evaporation rate, but after distillation to get the low-boiling part (pentane, hexane, heptane, octane, nonane and their isomers) it becomes extrmely volitile, which makes it a lot easier to get poisoned.