From Broken To Reworked : The History Of Diana In League of Legends
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Today, let's talk about the history of diana, and her new diana rework in league of legends. Diana is one of the best champions and is one of the best champions for climbing, as well as getting better at league of legends. Diana was one of the most broken champions in league of legends history. Here's the history of league of legends, dianas history. Here is her story in league of legends.
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Let me know your guys thoughts on the new Diana rework, do you agree or disagree with me? Do you think it's cool? Also how is your 2020 so far?
I am in the last class of high school and i am studying for my exams for university . Pretty anxious tbh
I sadly have no use for lolwiz because I am playing only one chempion and I know who to ban when I play him.
in lane she wasnt even a champion pre 6 pre-rework honestly she had no way to engage.
It's cool. I mean my 2020 so far.
@@Antecc728 Yes and no way to dodge a gank if enamy had chempion like zilean in midlane with any JG with some dmg and mobility.
Next Video: Skarner, the dude who is just there
Who?
Whooo the fook is that guy?
Bloater Snake skarner the giant useless scorpion
Skarner was never given a fighting chance from the day of his release, he is the new pre rework yorick, just nerfed into the ground until he gets a rework likely somewhere in 2022
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Exil: mOON friEnd
listen.. I'm not exactly a man of culture.
Exil ok zoomer
@@Exil22 go watch Necrit and you will be
Papar Studio she's the Aspect of the Moon
@@paparstudio9752 yes she is
1:40
"Our favourite moon friend"
*angry Aphelios noises*
Hahha
Actually...*angry Aphelios no noises*
Lekka same tho.
more like 'angry Alune noises'
angry aphelios grunts
Its a good rework overall. If they want her to be more viable in the jungle without making her OP in solo lanes just give her passive bonus damage versus jungle monsters.
Solid point. It's really slow lol.
she gonna be leeching jungle camp like raptor then get higher level than enemy mid lanner then snowball
@@aokidetaliya4983 This
@@aokidetaliya4983 all mid laners can do that pretty easily. Do you have a better idea to make her jungle more viable without breaking her solo lanes?
@@aokidetaliya4983 jg xp is so bad that leeching raptors will set you behind bro 😂
Next on the list:
- Akali: the mistake
-Azir: the fall of the emperor
Azir is almost a joke, they spent literal years bug fixing and changing him, I think the devs might hate him quite a bit
@@nsfmatios i remember when they literally said they gave up on azir and kalista :(
missed the time his E knock-up the enemy.
@@CryPoison Or is W dealing damage to turrets
@@homerosz97 or had more range on everything
I love how he is like “but she was really struggling to...” while the gameplay shows Diana 1v3 people and going out without a scratch
lol you saw it too
He was talking in general and in average diana games. Exceptions are always there
INOV he is showing good plays for us to watch
Diana's always a good mid she broke in the right hands fr
Even on soraka AD you can 1v9 if you put a chall soraka player vs 5 irons.
your videos are such high quality and CLEARLY shows how much effort you put into them.
i feel so immersed in each and every video you release.
2020 is your year.
thank you very much!!
Exil ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Put my thoughts into words better than I could've. Keep up the good work exil!
For real exil, you make amazing videos man
Next should be tahm kench, his history is crazy
Unbenching the kench
Long story short, they created a tank who's damage skills scale with health and also with a teleport in his R. Final result, a tank assassin great for teamfights. Nerfed both his damage and R, now is useless.
@@martinrodriguez1329 funny you say that because I remember when top kench was broken he was much better at 1v1s and 2v2s than in straight up 5v5s
@@aristosplayer1573 Well, the teamfight part was mostly used in support, so you're not technically wrong.
literally my first impressions about Diana after a few games where: switch her E and R
the rework is exactly what I wanted, but I preferred her as a burst assassin then an AP bruiser
Get electrocute then build Zhonyas into protobelt
If still works get ardent if not rush a rabbadon she has enough damage to run that build to oneshot Squishies plus extra mobility cdr and the HP from protobelt actually increases her shield plus the best defense active in game for those fat ults.
If Ardent doesn't work just be careful not to run oom because you are expending all in damage and survivability.
ill try
Or you can go Ludens into Lich bane for giga burst one shot. screw ardent, don't be a meta slave
Try electrocute, I usually rush protobelt, then rabadon and zhonya. For secondary I like resolve. But this isnt good for sustain matchups, Im using this if im gonna tilt Katarina, Zed or some champions that use to be agressive in lane.
Or go the suntail build, nashors, rabadons, void with boots somehere and zhonyas or banshees before void if you need it
Ranged champ buffs over 3 seasons and then riot is like “Why do u guys think they’re strong LULW”
It's nice when they expect you to win as an immobile ADC against Akali, Vlad or Fizz. Yes, we need click them to do actual damage. Yes, it'll take at least 1 second to kill them. Yes, they kill us in half the time. At least Fizz and Akali have dodgeable skillshots
Akali is one of my mains that I play in D1. The ADC is either really easy to kill or just impossible because it’s Kaisa with E R and a fking zhonyas and thresh. Or maybe it’s the Xayah with PD that just insta clicks R and has stopwatch from her runes. It can go either way but as an assassin it feels dumb that can go either way.
@@arcturus4762 i remember dodging Akali's 2nd R, i had 1 ms
"she just wasnt very good"
now shes permabanned, without the assasin potential she had.
Lel an assassin without escape still suck a little bit.
@@soft9320 diana mains know how to oneshot their carries and escape lmao
@@oomfdra yeah dashing to a minion or a jungle camp
Petrichor They are rarely where you want, and jungle are always made in hight elo.
@@soft9320 you could also start a fight and flash/zhonyas, if their carries die, ur team should win the fight
Wukong: waits months for a rework after they announced it and him being shit for years
Diana: gets one out of nowhere because she is suboptimal.
Thats not entirely true. Diana's rework was announced at a time when Wukong was played in the LCS and while I am not a wukong main, I havent heard of a wukong update till it showed on pbe last year, and its arguably just as small a change as Diana, since both are/were okay-ish, but other champions did the same thing better cause their unqiue thing was weak.
Also this rework is really simple. So there's that
"out of nowhere" - you mean after 7 years of diana mains begging?
@@damian4926 yeah but Wukong's rework was up for a lot of patches in pbe after the announcement but Diana's was just suddenly put up in pbe then went to live in just a patch, not unlike Wukong. That's what they meant by "out of nowhere"
you mean "from broken to broken: Diana rework??"
Yes sir
And plat and diamond and master and grandmaster and challenger
@@Matik2001 facts
Fckk
*from broken to compleatly useless to broken
As far as small changes go, I got one for rumble.
Let his W shield pass through minions when active and increase the speed boost duration by an extra second. When chasing down someone with his Q, unit collision can make rumble easily turn around and skimp some of the damage.
fiddlesticks was my first jungler lol, those were the days
For some good fiddle jg check out “Tunguin” and “NA Fiddlesticks” he’s practically a fiddle one trick but can play other champs and has like 6 other accounts, once the season starts he’ll have most of them in masters to challenger
"Never seen so many nerfs in a row"
Ever heard of Tahm Kench?
he did deserve it.
Anyone else also remember that one patch when Galio was one of the weakest champions in league history?
@@c3ntravaswani427 That patch where his Q would do 320% of maxhealth per second?
ever heard of akali
@@GamePandaXXL I miss those days
13:45 so no ones gonna talk about that janna jungle lol
No? She probably killed some1 and took double buff. Havent seen her smiting either
Shave YT Olaf has the red buff
@@pepperandsnowflakeadventur3877 Well she could have killed the one who took the buff from his own jungler
I hope taliyah recieves a mini rework like this one, changing the passive (maintaining the surf on walls) and focusing on her mid lane viability.
taliyah players still using her passive to roam 24/7 while playing midlane or jg, but tbh i agree with u. she's kinda sheytt rn imo
I played her since came out, but once she was turn into a jungler, it was over for me. Somewhat similar to the old graves.
Diana being OP with ardent censer self buff making riot remove the interaction killing skarner's ardent build. FeelsBadMan
This part 11:58 just made me realize that Old Diana is basically the current Void Spirit in Dota 2. If he got his R, no matter how much you bullied him that caused him to have only weak items, he can kill 2 people alone with the moment he hit level 6; and those 2 people are the same people who've been bullying him in lane since he is level 1-5
Awesome video! As a long time Diana main, I think they NAILED IT! She finally feels like how she was supposed to be played. (I abused the aftershock bruiser build for very long because it fit so much better than one-shot diana)
Teemo E and R switch would be...interesting. They'd have to add in something more to the E to make it more of an ultimate, like decreased healing, a slow... or maybe have it be a passive where it instead just augmented your other abilities with more virulent poisons. It makes your Q deadlier, your traps stronger, adds in the poison damage to auto's. It would certainly be interesting to play around with.
I've got a sneaking suspicion that Diana's gonna end up getting hugely nerfed like Irelia did after her rework.
"So we think Diana is too strong at too many things right now and such we are reducing her movespeed by 5"
Raxis Taicho as she should be
After they moneygrab off the Dragonslayer skin, yes
If there won't be another annoying streamer with a punchable face abusing her to get rank one becouse he can only right click.
Irelia is still disgusting tho
I remember going for Diana when I started back in season 3 when the designers admitted she was inspired by the show Claymore, which I loved at the time. I always had fun with her when I picked her but it usually only felt good when I picked her into champs that wanted to go in like Fizz or Talon, that way her lack of mobility didnt feel so bad.
I hope the rework pans out, moon friend deserves it.
Constructive criticism:
Maybe this video is following the exact formula as your other docu-champ videos, but this one feels different. It sounds less relaxed compared to your other videos of this genre - like video length was something pressuring you during the monologue the whole time. It also started to sound like a proguides video towards the end - like what to do and what not to do on a champ rather than _this is the champ’s beginning, and this is their current state (end)._
I would have liked to have learned more about her buffs/nerfs, maybe gotten more detail about her role in the meta, and how different indirect nerfs and buffs affected those events. I understand that explaining those things too much equals more time and a potential lose of your viewer’s interest, however, when I tap on these videos, that’s honestly what I’m here for. I expect knowledgeable deep dives from your content because you have the ability to make me believe you’ve done the research.
You still did well, and I still watched the video all the way through, but I think if you really care about always improving your videos, you can appreciate this comment.
Good points.
Would very much agree with you there, mate.
Here probably a unknown fact: Diana's moon fall was planed to be her R from the start, supposedly it would deal true damage but was change in her release, now with the rework is like reverting her skills back
Have you ever considered Yi's history? He had so many interesting history
Definitely!! I am actually thinking about doing one specifically on funneling so of course hes a huge part of that
@@Exil22 Hmmm you could do one one yi and elaborate further on funneling when it comes into the timeline
@@Exil22 My first main was Yi then I thought I want to play a chempion who could support him but still do dmg and 1v5 teamfights on hes own. Thats how I became Zilean main.
@@Exil22 out of subject, but could you make a history about the rune (and mastery) system from release to now?
D p M oh boy ap yi, feral flame yi, guinsoo yi
And now, two years later, Diana plays like a mix of assassin and bruiser, all while being in the jgl and not be used at all in solo lanes.
Next up:
Vladimir, the champion that Riot wanted to remove
Should have removed
@@machduel Nah, he's fine. He'd be super weak if you could only play him mid, as he's easy to punish with other mages and ranged characters. It's Top Lane's dumpsterfire state that makes him stupid, as he can free win a ton of melee bruiser matchups there simply because Riot doesn't balance that lane.
Lol, who even plays anything but ADC/Mage top? Why play the tanky/bruiser lane as a tanky bruiser, when you can cheese and ez win.
@@TheJamieellis i still do :(
@@krystiangolus2841 Me too :'(
A change that I think could be possible and change everything on Ryze is that Bonus Danage that procs from EQ needs to Scale by Q levels, not R levels that is actually now, so it can be an actual champion on soloQ even without his shields.
This video: exists
All the old Diana mains: [sobs in nostalgia]
Bro. Facts I loved nuke Diana. Now. I don’t like her. I’m a Diana main btw.
Alex Krietemeyer just build nuke with electro, takes a bit to get going but you still one tap
I'm a Diana main as well, and I'm all for this change. She needed something done desperately. I do miss being a one-shot machine, but I just have to change my thoughts about what kind of champion she is now. She's also viable before 6 now, which is one hell of a breather.
@@MoonchildBrody exactly
This is true :(
It's crazy that you still are making these top quality videos. Pls stream in twitch again I miss watching those streams 😢
I remember how it was when evelynn got reworked, i still miss the versatility and fun cheesy builds you used to be able to pull off. wonder if you'll end up making an evelynn video at some point
As an old Diana main, I was upset about the flipping of the E and R. The response time on the pull is slower and and it makes it much harder to use it as a reliable CC. I used to abuse the pull at lvl 4 to pull a jungler under tower or jungle gank at lvl 4 with flash e to get a good kill. Now her jungling sucks, and unless you deal more damage she is just ok in midlane and needs to scale to be affective.
CC is more important than damage and it hurts the ability to outplay by now just combing in
Damn, seeing this now, she got super buffed in the jungle this season
@@LysellaYT ya, I've accepted the new life she has and the buffs are just more damage (cool way to create outplay/sarcasm)
14:15 Illaoi: "first time?"
Plenty o Champs that need help, and I love that you choose to showcase the current status of said Champs! I would love it if you made a video on shyvana and the neglect she generally receives from riot due to her being popular in one region as well as design flaws...
I remember last time playing her, I played her like a poor man's tank ekko.
As a 5-year Diana main I think you did a great job in the history.
Only comments would be that you didn't leave out the fact that many people have played her as a bruiser all along, pre-rework (RoA/Nashors build), or that the Conqueror rework is the primary reason Diana is being played as a bruiser now, not her kit rework.
I think udyr needs this treatment.. would help him so much if r and w was swapped
Give it Nidalee, Jayce and Elise and everyone would be confused.
I'm sorry, but is this sarcasm?
@@hansleberwurst8825 No, just healthy obvious irony. Nd u know it.
Wath else should it be?
Swapping Udyr r and w is like removing the C of CDU, it doesn't change anything.
@@e3Gewinnt I'm a little bit lost here.
First off, I am pretty certain his comment is sarcastic not ironic.
Secondly, what the hell is CDU.
@@hansleberwurst8825 Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter gibe or taunt".
"Irony [...] is a rhetorical device [...] in which what appears, on the surface, to be the case, differs radically from what is actually the case. " Wikipedia
Since there isn't any offence to anyone in his comment it appears like irony to me.
Seeing your youtube name I assumed that you are german. CDU is the governing (conservative) party in germany (ironically ruling together with the (social democratic) SPD).
Just was a sarcastic joke from my side, because it's pretty contentious if the party really is still (or even was anytime) kind of christian.
(While I meant christian in this context in the way of the positive view of showing christian charity)
I hope the second part of your second comment wasn't ironic. In this case I would have wasted 5 minutes of my life for nothing.
You're welcome.
I love your videos its like going through a fantasy story with you as the narrator.
*I still remember the days*
wherein Diana would dismount my Boi Kled from his trusty steed from full health with just 1 second burst
lol
I was a Diana Main until the point she was a coinflip (like you mentioned: either OP one shot monster or useless). She just didn't have the tools the early game tools to get to that one shot state most of the times. I mean you could still destroy ADCs but in teamfights you would just die before you even got a chance to do it.
For me this rework is pretty perfect. I always wanted her to be more of a bruiser champion which she never really was. This rework did so much for her, it's great! She feels like an AP Irelia like you said. On the other hand I think there are better champions in the game right now who do a smiliar job especially in the mid lane. Ekko for example. He may not be a real bruiser but if I had to decide between Ekko or Diana ... Ekko just has so much more tools to work with and Damage is also higher if you play him right. He also got the better late game imo.
they could swap ekko r and w O:
Ohhh man.
Kindred seriously need some love
Maybe you can make a video about her
Even players forgot one of the Best design champions in the game
IMO I don’t think that Kindred would have such a great video. Not a lot has happened with them over the years: early on they had a passive rework and a few small balance changes here and there, only to be overshadowed into irrelevancy by the new champs on the block. There. I just gave Kindred’s entire history in one paragraph. I could talk about Kindred’d design ideas too, but there isn’t a lot to tell there either.
@@c3ntravaswani427 Agree. I love Kindred but I can't see much content centering around them.
Kindred is just "ok" and never really received that much attention.
Personally would love if she gets a tiny buff but I can't see Riot giving one suddenly.
There was another thing that gutted her as well. Pre-rework she also used to be able to R and then Q mid-flight. So this ended up letting you get more range with her R and then Q'ing mid air to get the reset. Riot removed it and that hurt her pretty badly.
I've been playing jungle Diana with Electrocute, and aside from the pretty slow early clear, mid to late game is pretty good going chilling smite into Lich bane and deathcap.
other champions that could see this treatment? you mean: give them more mobility? yes, all of them except for the new and reworked ones.
shen for example should have a dash similar to renekton. first one taunts and if he hits it he gets a second activation that executes cc-ed enemies.
shivana should stop turning into a dragon on ult but rather on E. also it should just have a 7 second cooldown on max rank but be decreased with attackspeed, ad or ap.
jinx should trigger her passive on minion kills and assists too.
tristana jump should be way faster.
ezreal could need another jump on one of his abilities, maybe ultimate? you jump then shoot your ultimate into a certain direction?
nasus should fuse E and W, so that the more points he puts into E the bigger the AoE effect becomes and deals more dmg while the more points he puts in W the stronger the slow. also uncleansable and if he moves toward a target affected by wither he should be un-cc- able and get a movementspeed buff of 100.
darius is now ranged.
draven replaes his movespeed on W with a teleport, which, when he uses it, makes it so his axes land at his place instead of wherever they were going before (about a 3-4 second cooldown max rank)
lux should travel at the speed of light
leona should have a blink ability on her Q (like old Talon E) and her e should be an execute for ranged champions.
thresh should be able to see invisible champions at all times and if he uses his E it uses its normal hitbox for visible champs but a global hitbox for invisible champions. also his ultimate spanws smaller boxes around invisible champions and if he hooks a visible champion all invisible champions get hooked aswell. by activating his Q again he pulls himself and all invisible champions to the visible champion. the invisible champions get a 10 second stun and super silence (not even tryndamere ult works)
tryndamere. Q is now a spin like E but it heals him (no longer uses his rage but buffs it) and his W is a stun if the enemy faces him and an execute if not.
just some ideas for future reworks.
This comment IS a joke right?
Schwarzer Tee i mean tbh shen could use an optional second dash, but it shouldnt be an execute. Dont r/woosh me because i get his comment is a joke
Edit: grammar fixed
I think Aurelion sol could use a huge benefit if they put his passive as his w passive and made him a whole new passive. When you think about it, if u wanna invade enemy jungle at the start of game, you can't have aurelion sol in your team because his stars can be seen outside of the bush. If u put it as his w passive, you can be hidden in bush whitout revealing yourself as long as you dont take w as your first ability.
as a 800k mastery main diana im glad you took your time to make this kinda of tribute. i have controversial feelings about the change, first being all my muscular memory that keeps pressing R as a dash as soon as i hit someone w/ Q, wasting the new ult, which used to be the old E (a very useful skill when its not your freaking ult, even damageless, as i would use to pull people or resetting passive/lich to improve dps vs towers e.g). I definitely miss the mana regen, especially as mid, and the new attack speed bonus we get scales, which is good, and aa got smoother. She also lost a lot of burst potential (all skills are dealing less damage), as in the old diana i used to get lv 6 gank bot and insta kill both. they may have given her the old ult pre lv 6 to encourage players to use her jungle and turn her to some kind of ap bruiser rather than an assassin, but her kit pre lv 6 is still only useful in follow up scenarios, with some other champion starting, and after lv 6, when she's able to do so, without a stopwatch she's good as dead because she wont have enough damage until late game when all the used-to-be squishy champs are full build. if riot is doubtful about her role in the game, i say, "make diana mid assassin again"
I’ve been a Diana main since season 4, but due to computer issues I haven’t been able to play league for about a year, and I’m dreading getting back and having to play new Diana. I loved her as a burst assassin and enjoyed the struggle of Diana pre-6. I’m really hoping I’m wrong, but riot has made me despise a lot of my old favorites with reworks. Hopefully this will be an exception.
I build Diana in so many ways throughout the years, this mine rework doesn't surprised me. I'm glad her original R kind of back again since this is the game of the super ultra movility and "sick gameplays" now Diana could do some new jukes for the modern times.
I'd love to see my main get this rework treatment. Swapping Trynd's ult and his W should be quite the fix he's needed.
r on w seems fun. His w would be an unsatisfying r tho.
Give trynd a tp on r that can not be used nearby allys (you must tp far away from em), and making him unable to use normal tp as a summoner. So he has to splitpush all day long and kill guys with ignite and r at lvl 1.
I always came back to bruiser diana no matter how bad it was, while I see a slight problem of moving all her power to the early game with corrupting potion start and ardent rush, I've been enjoying the fact that I have a mobile ap bruiser back
Well,... I played her in the jungle, and as you said, she wasn't a champ till lvl 6. I loved playing her and I love how they changed her, but I don't like her not being a jungler anymore, since i like playing range mages on mid.
yea: make TF's Gate his E and let it be global on a 30 second cooldown!
LOL
Thats how it worked many years ago
@@davidcabrero2034 r/whooosh
nahh it must be the global slow
I just went against a Diana who went 29/9 and was basically one shotting us and bouncing from one person to the next. It was a god damn nightmare. Luckily the backdooring GP saved the day. While I hate that the new changes have made her way too strong, I like that they noticed she was struggling and gave her a much needed update.
The dash was on R for a reason. Now she has zero to no counterplay.
Post-Rework Passive/W, Lunar Rush AP scalings and flat damage all down compared to the Old, her ult consists of a solid chunk of her damage now.
That ult has a 1 second delay on its damage, you can flash/dash/just walk away or just burst her/cc her in that time to avoid it and she loses noticeable damage on her combo.
Even if you fail to dodge the new ult, the delay on the damage means you now have time to respond (exhaust/heal/Zhonyas) whereas before the rework if you didn't dodge the Q, you were instantly dead in less than a second.
That's the counterplay.
@@evanswindells5519 in theory you can avoid the R dmg, in reality you cant. It doesnt feel lile you can even flash so easy out of it because its still huge and when you do she just uses her secound jump, pretty simple to hit the R if you ask me
Evan Swindells yeah, the other guy is right. Sure, you can flash, but you have to wait until after her R pulls you back in, and then flash, but even then she’ll just e to you again. you can’t get away from her. If you Zhonyas, boom, their whole team is on top of you because the rest of your team just died.
I suppose the only reason people say she has no counter play in her current state is because her ult slows for so much and also deals so much damage at the same time. Maybe they can remove the slow and reduce the scaling of the ult.
Edit: Maybe also amp the mana cost of E, make it so her reset is not a free dash to you when you get hit by a Q, it just resets the cooldown of the E instantly. That way she can be punished by just run and gunning all the time
There is no such thing as Diana bruiser. She is a hybrid of a few things assassin, mage, bruiser. While her pseudo bruiser build is good against most assassins she can't do shit against real bruisers Renekton, Jax, Fiora, Irelia, the goes on. or even some other pseudo bruisers like Yas and Akali. She can't do shit against tome juggernauts or whatever they are Darius and Morde either. You simply can out sustain and out damage her, but hey there is no counterplay, pal.
There's something kinda funny to me about the idea of the "R transfer" being some sort of higher-level mechanic.
Like, I can see how people wouldn't think of that, but it's a pretty simple two-part spell. It just seems kinda obvious that since the damage isn't directly linked to the pull ( hence why you can flash out of it or sometimes just walk out of it depending on everyone's positioning ) there's no reason why you wouldn't be able to hit people with it even if you didn't pull them.
I dunno. Maybe it's just a matter of me having an easier time compartmentalizing that sort of thing than I realize. Programming and card games have a funny way of making you think of things in very literal and overly precise ways, after all.
I go disagree I wanted more of the assassin I miss nuking and late game scaling
I’d like a video on Tahm kench’s history (if possible, the boys been forgotten, and when he’s not forgotten he’s hated)
Yaaaay another League movie by Exil. They really just need to hire and pay this guy. SERIOUSLY.
I wouldn't even keep league installed if it wasn't for this channel.
It would be nice to give Quinn some attention. Her E should have an added mechanic that would let the player have some control of where her Vault bounced to. Everyone knows where she will land from the direction her E was used making her a sitting duck for anyone how has ANY form of CC. Even thirty degrees to either side of the casting spot depending on where the player's mouse was could add in some element of unpredictability.
personally, as far as champs who I feel could do with a one small change touch up...I feel like turning Vi's e somehow into a sheen-type passive and maybe giving her a different E (maybe a full on shield rather than her current passive?) could help her out a bit. since at least to me whenever I'm playing vi, I feel like I'm not even a champion until I get my tri force. I feel like nowadays she really struggles due to all the champions now who can just...blow her up the instant she tries to go in, even if you build a little more bulk on her. so being able to have a stronger shield woudl help, and having a more natural sheen could help her early.
Hey, with the Volibear rework coming soon can you do a retrospective on Volibear?
I have an idea for a Skarner Update which I have been thinking about for some time now.
I would change Skarner Q to not intantly go of, but rather give you a buff with a short duration (along the lines of 0.5 sec).
If Skarner does an autoattack during this time, his Q will resolve as usual. Not Using an autoattack will proc the Q AoE after buff expires.
And now the important part: Targeting an enemie that is marked with his E while you have the Q buff will cause you to dash to the target and autoattack it, procing both the Q AoE and the E stun.
I think that would help Skarner a lot early on and even give him terrain scaling. I only play Skarner every once in a while and I am only high plat so balancing and basic ground rules are beyond me anyway, but whenever I play him, I feel like giving him a dash that needs setup wouldn't be all that much to ask for.
The dashrange doesnt even have to be all that long. Make it like 400 units, maybe even 450.
Diana is actually super broken right now.
I mean, would you stack 5 man vs a malphite ? no, then don't vs diana. Her laning phase is good but she lacks damage. She lost her one shot potential if not massively fed, and can't deal vs solid meta bruisers. Rn she just have the same thing as every reworked champs, ppl think she's broken because they're clueless on what to do vs those champs.
What he said. Also, she now has no cc apart from her ult, which is more of a "gotta go in" thing than actually relevant cc. She's just damage, and she does less of that than she used to.
Diana is weak comparet with old Diana
I say this i wans main...
what are you guys on saying diana is weak. Her laning phase is rediculous since her q is basically undodgeable meaning free harass and if she lanes it she can hit you a insane burst combo plus conqueror sustain damage. Just poke anyone until theyre low in the mid lane and then oneshot them. Your q and e have massive range, you guys must be bronze or havent played the rework yet.
You're low elo, no doubt.
Great Vid! As an old school Diana player I was waiting for her to get a rework for a while now and I honestly think Riot delivered with this one!
I remember the devs saying that the original spell order for Diana was, in fact, the one we have now.
Her current ultimate was something that was thought about in development as well and wa sintended, but they did not manage to make it work properly - it had channels and steroids and some weird stuff, so they ultimately decided to swap stuff and put the moonfall on E and lunar dash on R
It's so weird to see it now xD
Putting Karthus R to W would be a good changes.
Change my mind
As a Karthus main I really would like Karthus w to be removed and making it passively give qs free Rylais effect.
I think if it gets that way of a passive (like e.g every 5th q slow, scaling up to every 3rd), they could really give karthus his r pre 6, with smaller dmg on w spell.
The r would then be awesome as a spell amplifier, to
q) give atomar q dmg 4 like 3 seconds.
w) being old r with the normal r dmg
e) slowing and healing due to dmg dealt
Her being reworked to a more bruiser playstyle worked perfectly for me, because I never enjoyed playing full AP Diana to begin with. It was Always an abyssal mask rush mid vs other ap champs, or a IBG for those pesky ad assassins. It's been wonderful actually playing her the way I always did and seeing even more success with ehr
Finally! A video about my main
Edit: I commented this before watching the video and now I’m editing this after, but oh boy I learned a lot. Thank you for giving me insight into Diana’s past. Love your vids
"Ninja Buff" lol. i wounder if this is a tip of the hat to the old Professor Milk vid.
Since you asked if we think there are other champs that could use a little tweak, I always thought that Zoe's playstyle is not very heatlhy, neither for the ones that play her nor the ones that play against her. Her abilities should be seen even when they pass through bushes (not like her e right now, that if it was put on a bush, you dont see the whole of it), but also, her ult should be slighty changed so she isn't so predictable, since you can definitely not use it in front of a lux. I always thought that allowing her to decide where to pop up in her way back to her ult, in a small radius, would fix her predictability without giving her more mobility.
Recipe for disaster: Dash, dash, dash and more dash.
I know this is an old video but I feel the same way about shaco. They took his season 5 self and murdered it in season 6 and they completely brought him back to the champ i love with the most recent patch.
Varus but they change his r to something like heim ulty, empowering his abilities. His w becomes his old r without the spread and a much lower stun duration he can cast r to; empower his q as he can now, empower the new w to get his old r or empower his e to create a much larger radius cutting healing and dealing a dot. The blight passive is moved to to his r.
First time being so early, heart me papa pls
okay
17:52 he managed to hit challenger at level 47
meanwhile I'm level 57 with 4 year or experience and still stuck in silver
I'm Impressed with this man level of talent
Was probably a smurf account. He's been playing for years and multiseason challenger. Either that or as I remember I think riot just introduced leveling past 30, used to be locked at 30
I am a Diana main and at the beginning I did not like the rework but after using the ardent, I liked it a lot, I will have to find a new build for version 10.1 good video
Do a video on Viktor! He was broken for a while during season 5-6 i think it was, then got hard nerfed and nerfed, and then neglected till he got his buffs about 2-3 months ago. Would be a cool video i think!
Ok. I’m pretty new to the game. Started season 9 but I loved old Diana and how her game play was to nuke all in sight. Now I’m having problems not only with the more bruiser play style but also just with the change to the e and r. Like. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve r’d then e’d and sat there like an idiot as I get blown up.
Why isn't this guy getting the love he deserves
It looks like a really good rework with some nice trick (like the triple dash) for players that want to spend some time on her.
The fact that some old main aren't happy isn't really a news, some people miss old Poppy, old Sion and Old Urgot.
From broken to reworked to broken*
Honestly, true.
Aurelion Sol. I think if they switched his Q and his R around it would be better. Add a slightly bigger delay to his Voice of Light to allow counterplay, but he would have a way to get melee champs off of him. And as his Ultimate, they could Make starsurge more powerful, scale damage with distance, and really get that 'growing a star downlane' feel they wanted in his champion spotlight right. You could alter the direction slightly as well, and make god like plays.
To your question: Swapping kassadins R and E would also make him feel good before lvl 6
at this point given how many problems riot have with his movility just nerf his damage give his Q a root and make him a jungler that can ignore walls and counter magic damage but struggles to deal enough damage himself
Zakashi Firekiller btw that will make him stupidly broken cuz i can literally play urf kassadin at lvl 11 with 20% cdr
for shyvana, i would move the dash on the ult to the Q. that way she would be able to get to a opponent before level 6.
I know, the version of diana now fits in the design better, but the old diana was the absolute best champion for 1v9. If you hit 2 items before your enemy, you just oneshot everybody and you don't have to worry about wasting stuff before a teamfight. And also the w and passive damage were double, so you could just stack up your passive and do W+R+AA and deal over 2k damage to a carry. The passive had over %90 ap scaling.
Hi Exil! Nice video, it's really interesting seeing the evolution of champions throughout LoL' history.
I'd really like to see you make a video about Karma, she was the first champion Riot relaunched and it's also a rework they admitted didn't hit the mark. She lost her identity as the "Fan mage" and also the concept of duality on her skills but now she is also completely different lore-wise to who she was when she was launched; she went from being a wise, enlightened woman to now being the latest reincarnation of an ancient Ionian soul.
Hey Exil, love your videos, could you please make a video covering mordekaiser's through out the years? Like how he went from
"No one picks me"--> the best "adc" on the game at the time--> one trick material (like that mord main that got top 10 or something like that)--rework again
To me it's very interesting.
They shoulda reworked old urgod like this, new one isn’t as fun as being a Peyton Manning with your q’s
I know the feel... I do also miss old Urgot
@@SergioGarridoPacoso much more fun
One small change I think would make Yasuo feel a lot better to play against would be to make his wind wall directional (only block projectiles from the front). Right now wind wall is extremely hard to play against as a ranged champion and leads to a lot of feelsbad moments, making the direction of wind wall matter would open up a lot more counter play.
I ABSOLUTELY love the Diana rework, been playing it a ton. Typically I follow Arcsecond's build (he streams most days, you should check him out!) going conqueror with RoA into Nashors, and it feels great, especially lategame. I think she does get outscaled by certain picks, but she's never bad lategame. The issue is she may be a bit *too* strong in teamfights with her ult, but on the other hand she's still very weak earlygame so I think balancing that out a bit will help her (more power early, a bit less late specifically on her ult). My 2020's been good so far, hope yours has too!
The Ardent change wasn't intended, as it was in the bugfix tab in the patch notes.
as a diana main with like 200k + points in her i personally liked the update. i was comfortable with her laning potential pre level 6 before the rework. I'd often be able to get first blood at level 3 in favorable matchups against players of my elo. however after the rework her potential with trades in lane are so much better. Now im able to roam as early as level 3 if i wanted to. all in all i feel tiro did me a solid in this rework, even though in the past i had said i swear if they reworked diana i'd quit. well done.
I have an idea for a Maokai rework. His kit is almost identical except for the new hidden feature where if a Corki is present, if the Maokai player types "go away" in chat, the Corki, friendly or not, is instantly forced to recall. This is a double edged sword as you might accidentally send an enemy Corki back who will be able to defend. I think this a good change and will really mix up the meta. Corki and Maokai will need some compensation changes, as this ability is strong both ways. To compensate Corki, the package will have a 10% chance of exploding on pickup, killing the Corki instantly. This will encourage Corki's to make educated gameplay decisions on whether or not the package is worth the risk. As for Maokai, he will gain sapling charges at a rate decreased by 2 seconds per sapling. This will hopefully balance out the tables, as the Corki vs Maokai meta has been going on for far too long.
as someone with 500k mastery on diana, its a hard change to get used to i still ult when i want to dash feels awkward. i think diana feels very similiar though overall same idea when playing her but with the benefits of early dash and an actual ultimate.
Alot of champ could be changed from 125 range to 150 range to help them work vs champ with dashes a twad bit more. Also, I think Corki could use something similar as Diana. I'd combine his W and E for an ult, put his R as a basic ability and find a new third basic ability
They needed to change her q.. now that her e resets it’s actually nuts.. I’ve been playing her and honestly if the champion has mobility -> I lose if the champion is immobile -> I make their life a living hell, and if I land a q they’re dead, or I just give myself a shield and walk away and kill them with a second rotation since my q will be up again in a couple seconds