The reason Ultravox songs are so memorable is scientific - Midge Ure knew what he was doing. We remember pictures and shapes much more easily than words, and Ultravox songs are cram-packed with imagery, you can almost feel them. Just think back to the first couple of lines in Vienna, and you are 'in' the song, it's like you're there, so it becomes an experience, not just a tune... 😌👍
Been re-listening to 80s music recently after many years and a long musical evolution, and how good they sounded... The production was a bit tinny at times but the music was great and it brings back such good memories. Its good to see these fellas still playing and making an honest living. I loved Simpleminds and Ultravox but also Classix Nouveaux, Duran Duran, Toyah, Kate Bush, Japan, Soft Cell, Bauhaus, Joy Division, Stranglers, Clash, U2, Siouxsie, and many other....
on what bands was some of the production tinny at times you mean in some songs they were? I mean simple minds,Duran Duran,U2, Big country, The cult,The smiths,Dire straits, The police, AC/DC,Bon Jovi, Areosmith, the Jam,Madness,Style council, all had no tinny sound in any parts of their songs I own all albums from these guys in the 80's
It's only tinny if you're listening on rubbish equipment. Get some decent speakers/headphones, tweak the EQ, and it'll sound way better than any modern remaster. Mastering engineers actually knew what they were doing back then. Also, because the music isn't compressed to the nuts, you can crank the volume as much as you want, and it'll never sound too loud.
Bob has as he comes from a crime family and was being investigated as to why his persona fortune of about $30 million British pounds suddenly increased in the following years to about nearly $300,000,000 when the Boomtown Rats only had one major hit.
I saw Midge Ure on a solo tour back in the 80s in a basement university bar in Canada. There were maybe 100 people in the audience, but it was an amazing show.
Ultravox could never be described as a ROCK band. Jim was quite insincere by hogging the limelight here. Midge was as ever a gent. When Jim starts singing his songs the way we remember them, ill go back and see them again. You wont have that air of arrogance with midge.Go see Ultravox-thats what you get. They are brilliant.
Saw Midge a couple of months ago when he was supporting Human League and have to say that if anything, he was better than Phil Oakley, but in fairness, Phil was great too. Jim and Simple Minds started losing credibility after New Gold Dream for me when they started to set their sights on America. Such a brilliant band prior to that.... sad.
Jim was very sincere he was answering each question put to him not adverting questions put to midge. Jim sings his songs as he always has in his truly remarkable way and having followed then since they played small pubs las I can say that honestly..midge is also fantastic a wonderful voice great to see them touring together two great bands coming out of our home town !
I'd say that Ultravox is definitely not just pop. They're by far the most unique band of that era. Rage in Eden is THE new wave album for me. If anything they were more rock than the dance bands like Human League and Duran Duran.
It was Americanised sold out pop, not the pioneering early stuff pre sparkle in the rain. Also, the band fell off the cliff when Derek Forbes left, probably one of the best Bass guitarists ever.
Used to be a Jim Kerr fan until i seen this he was extremely arrogant and ignorant to the wonderful Midge ure. Midge is such a gorgeous gent if I was the interviewers I would have pretended Jim wasn't there and focused on Midge just for his extreme arrogance.
Jim Kerr is not arrogant there in the slightest. He is engaging and humorous, unlike Midge who could never be accused of being particularly interesting. I saw Midge live with Ultravox which was a disappointing gig - he had no rapport with the audience. Jim Kerr on the other hand oozes charisma. I saw Simple Minds live too - they were incredible.
Good luck with that. With our proud history, and with the fact that fossil fuels have a limited shelf-life, it's a short term nationalistic band aid for jingoistic Scotsman. I think, as an Englishman, and with Irish heritage, that our people should unite, as we would do in a war, or in the face of adversity. I have nothing against independence, only I think it is short term. As a United Kingdom, as some may call it, we have a rich, and shared cultural heritage, whether it be at war or peace. The fact remains, we have more in common, than for example the Norwegians. They would never laugh at Rab. C. Nesbitt!
It was a great shame that didn't in the end that they did not perform together in the end. My only reasoning for this it must have been very difficult to do.
+charliechutney Yeah true. It suggests that while they both have respect for each other as singers, and both obviously respect the other's band, in terms of being proper mates......no, probably not............which explains the long pause both gave when asked this question. By this I don't mean that they can't stand each other, but they obviously have different musical tastes, and have different approaches to being lead singer. Kerr is the classic charismatic showman who loves to draw you (the audience) towards him, while Ure is more restrained and less likely to throw himself into the crowd or jump about on the stage. He's a singer, whereas Kerr is an entertainer aswell as a singer. Not saying this is better, but it's the difference between the two. Both have great voices but you can't really compare them. Kerr is more similar to Bono, or Freddie Mercury...or even Jarvis Cocker - theatrical, while Ure is more like Sting, or Paul Weller who let their voice do all the work without the need for additional theatricality.
I have just stood up after collapsing in disbelief that ROB put Jim Kerr in the same category as Freddie Mercury. I love Simple Minds, son, but clearly you are taking their name as your own.
Ultravox had been an adventurous, experimental band under John Foxx. They went pop when Midge Ure joined, understandable as they were desperate for commercial success. Unfortunately, it meant the band that gave us Hiroshima Mon Amour and Dislocation were then offering K-tel pop like Love's Great Adventure. But then, they were not really the same band.
Good for you, ferrers88. I used to wonder whether they should have changed their name when reforming with Midge Ure, as the remaining members of Joy Division had done post Ian Curtis. But the Ultravox name was just starting to gain momentum so I don't blame them for building on that. For the record, I do think Vienna is a very accomplished album, and made for a good "first" album, just was not keen on what followed.
@Barry McCann Jesus H. stepping Christ... Lament is one of the best albums from the 80s. Excellent production. It's back to back just great songs as the other albums had some good tracks but some pitfalls as well. Lament is what Joshua Tree was for U2. Well balanced, well engineered and great songs.
I really liked Rage in Eden, the John Foxx era was ever so slightly before my time although I like his solo stuff.... mostly. I agree about ultra ox Mk1 and Mk2 being different enough to warrant a different name though.
This is more embarrassing than Tom and Shirley having a pint in a valley's bar. Scots have sold out . Taff will die alone and poor before he does this but his memories will be warmer . I'll have a pint with the former , thanks .
Hi Martin,in my opinion U-VOX wt Foxx was a little bit underrated respect at when Midge come......in fact John Foxx after leave U-VOX make Album not very commercial and sometimes he go frequently in Sperimental Music.....im 60% agree wt u,no compares Midge to John anyway,so different😉👋👋👋🎤🎸
The bands I like most.but I can't understand when they talk English in Scottish accent it's terrible but when the sing it's different they sound like pure English
Perhaps educate yourself about Scotland and England the BBC corrupted accent is not how UK people sound, it's for the computer generation with English and Scottish regional accents wiped out😮
The movies and music combined in the 80’s are untouchable! Too much talent and heart in the musicians and actors! Best era of movies and music by far!
Love them both.
Love Jim kerr voice❤
New Gold Dream was one of the best albums ever.
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@@dontalkt2meboutheros No it was the best bro
@@haroldvaison ❤
yep
What a wonderful interview. The two nice guys are both dandy and cool. ❤️❤️❤️
2 amazing vocal talents.
Sasha Ross Exactly 🤘
Best voices of the 80's
I love these two. True icons of the '80's!
The reason Ultravox songs are so memorable is scientific - Midge Ure knew what he was doing. We remember pictures and shapes much more easily than words, and Ultravox songs are cram-packed with imagery, you can almost feel them. Just think back to the first couple of lines in Vienna, and you are 'in' the song, it's like you're there, so it becomes an experience, not just a tune... 😌👍
two great bands
UltraMinds..Love both bands🎉
Brilliant is the best album of 2012. I got into it deeply in 2014 when a major life change happened. It really gave me some courage.
Been re-listening to 80s music recently after many years and a long musical evolution, and how good they sounded... The production was a bit tinny at times but the music was great and it brings back such good memories. Its good to see these fellas still playing and making an honest living. I loved Simpleminds and Ultravox but also Classix Nouveaux, Duran Duran, Toyah, Kate Bush, Japan, Soft Cell, Bauhaus, Joy Division, Stranglers, Clash, U2, Siouxsie, and many other....
on what bands was some of the production tinny at times you mean in some songs they were? I mean simple minds,Duran Duran,U2, Big country, The cult,The smiths,Dire straits, The police, AC/DC,Bon Jovi, Areosmith, the Jam,Madness,Style council, all had no tinny sound in any parts of their songs I own all albums from these guys in the 80's
You have very good taste
It's only tinny if you're listening on rubbish equipment. Get some decent speakers/headphones, tweak the EQ, and it'll sound way better than any modern remaster. Mastering engineers actually knew what they were doing back then. Also, because the music isn't compressed to the nuts, you can crank the volume as much as you want, and it'll never sound too loud.
Two Legends 80.s!!!!
WOW WOW Great Bands Great songs love the Music in my heart and head and glad and thank you for Sharing Your Music.
I've heard Midge speak. Fascinating man. What a life he has lived. Pity he never got much of a chance to do so here!
Ultravox / Simple Minds - ‘79-‘81 were very special bands indeed.
Also. Why hasn’t Midge been Knighted for his extraordinary work for Live Aid?
Because nobody gave him the credit he deserves. They gave all of the credit to Bob Geldof
Midge ure should be knighted
Bob has as he comes from a crime family and was being investigated as to why his persona fortune of about $30 million British pounds suddenly increased in the following years to about nearly $300,000,000 when the Boomtown Rats only had one major hit.
Quality & Talent in its Purest Form
Two legends!
2 LEGENDS🎸🔝🎤👏👍💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Ultravox and Simple Minds would be a great tour combination.
Awesome! I grew up listening to these guys!
I wish I had seen both when they were touring together. I’ve seen each at individual concerts and the concerts were *amazing!*
I saw Midge Ure on a solo tour back in the 80s in a basement university bar in Canada. There were maybe 100 people in the audience, but it was an amazing show.
Saw these two in Manchester pleasantly surprised by Ultravox always loved sm
80's the best time of pop music
Like the man sez, two great bands. Still enjoying their records today.
guys you both rock !!!! 2 of the very best bands to come out of the UK in the 80`s , timeless and still very popular today 2021 ,
Both came out of the 70, s
@@gmantramp404 thanks for the tip , I only started to listen to there music in the 80’s
@@paulbergkamp2181 👍🤘
Ultravox could never be described as a ROCK band. Jim was quite insincere by hogging the limelight here. Midge was as ever a gent. When Jim starts singing his songs the way we remember them, ill go back and see them again. You wont have that air of arrogance with midge.Go see Ultravox-thats what you get. They are brilliant.
Saw Midge a couple of months ago when he was supporting Human League and have to say that if anything, he was better than Phil Oakley, but in fairness, Phil was great too.
Jim and Simple Minds started losing credibility after New Gold Dream for me when they started to set their sights on America. Such a brilliant band prior to that.... sad.
I don't think he's hogging the limelight at all. He's answering the questions he's been asked.
Jim was very sincere he was answering each question put to him not adverting questions put to midge. Jim sings his songs as he always has in his truly remarkable way and having followed then since they played small pubs las I can say that honestly..midge is also fantastic a wonderful voice great to see them touring together two great bands coming out of our home town !
2 extraordinarias bandas. 2 leyendas. Grandes Ure y Kerr!
I'd say that Ultravox is definitely not just pop. They're by far the most unique band of that era. Rage in Eden is THE new wave album for me. If anything they were more rock than the dance bands like Human League and Duran Duran.
You cannot put Duran Duran and Human League in the same sentence. Even Phil Oakey would agree for goodness sake
Whatever man. Replace HL with Wham then.
Duran and Human league are friends. George Michael tried to kill himself just before his last album.A failed attempt.I know for sure
Duran Duran are selling out Stadiums. Wham are .............
I think they were better with John foxx
2 Legends...
Simple Minds supported Ultravox (John Foxx) Both album tours. ha ha ha and Systems Of Romance. 1978 &79 .
Jim...please...lets Midge talk
Great band...love from Ireland 💕☘️
Midge Ure is bloody gorgeous 😍
Gill not yet me yet lol
Alive and Kicking was a great album
was a song not a album and they sold out by that stage like when foxx left Ultravox
It was Americanised sold out pop, not the pioneering early stuff pre sparkle in the rain. Also, the band fell off the cliff when Derek Forbes left, probably one of the best Bass guitarists ever.
Once Upon A Time
Great bands -- Ultravox was quite sophisticated for its time ….
Wah two Scottish Legend 🏴 on the same show 🏴
Used to be a Jim Kerr fan until i seen this he was extremely arrogant and ignorant to the wonderful Midge ure. Midge is such a gorgeous gent if I was the interviewers I would have pretended Jim wasn't there and focused on Midge just for his extreme arrogance.
I didnt see anything arrogant or ignorant at all, what specific moment do you see this?
Jim Kerr is not arrogant there in the slightest. He is engaging and humorous, unlike Midge who could never be accused of being particularly interesting. I saw Midge live with Ultravox which was a disappointing gig - he had no rapport with the audience. Jim Kerr on the other hand oozes charisma. I saw Simple Minds live too - they were incredible.
The lady doth protesteth too much.....🏴🔊🥣
@@scrimmy45 Pity he doesn't ooze talent. Terrible band producing dire ,sugary anthem shite people wave their lighters to.
I believe it was 1988 when I became a Simple Minds fan.
By 1983/4 Simple Minds had peaked, it was all downhill after that.... I mean, Belfast Child was utter 🤢🤮
Jim Kerr look like Billy Currie no ?
Yep true!!!!LOL
Amazing!! I thought the same!!
Yeah, Jim Kerr calling Ultravox an influence on Simple Minds... he's obviously talking about the John Foxx era.
I'll be there.
The album ever is Bob Dylan Highway 61 Revisited
Midge Ure and Jim Kerr, also known as James and James. lol
There’s no way he’s arrogant each to his own opinions a true icon x
a would go and see that nae borra🏴
Gary Numan had to be there with them, because he was the pionner and the genious of the new sinthetizers age.Absolutely I think....
Not at all. The first to achieve commercial success maybe, but Ultravox were Gary's main inspiration.
@@ohcrikey9560 Gary said in a interview that Ultravox! were three albums ahead of him.
This means nothing to meeeeeeeee!
Can't wait til Birmingham Nov-13
VOTE FOR FREEDOM. vote SNP, Scotland in the Ark of Prosperity. Scotland and Norway. So Proud.
Good luck with that. With our proud history, and with the fact that fossil fuels have a limited shelf-life, it's a short term nationalistic band aid for jingoistic Scotsman. I think, as an Englishman, and with Irish heritage, that our people should unite, as we would do in a war, or in the face of adversity. I have nothing against independence, only I think it is short term. As a United Kingdom, as some may call it, we have a rich, and shared cultural heritage, whether it be at war or peace. The fact remains, we have more in common, than for example the Norwegians. They would never laugh at Rab. C. Nesbitt!
That would be the Irish heritage who were Neutral during the wars son?
It was a great shame that didn't in the end that they did not perform together in the end. My only reasoning for this it must have been very difficult to do.
ultravox were a synth band, simple minds were not. end of argument.
@@stephenfarrell3425 ok
If I was asked the same question about the same shit song at every fucking interview I'd go mental.
free your mind..let it flow...Glas go w...
Strange body language by Jim. Never once looked at or turned to Midge.
+charliechutney Yeah true. It suggests that while they both have respect for each other as singers, and both obviously respect the other's band, in terms of being proper mates......no, probably not............which explains the long pause both gave when asked this question. By this I don't mean that they can't stand each other, but they obviously have different musical tastes, and have different approaches to being lead singer. Kerr is the classic charismatic showman who loves to draw you (the audience) towards him, while Ure is more restrained and less likely to throw himself into the crowd or jump about on the stage. He's a singer, whereas Kerr is an entertainer aswell as a singer. Not saying this is better, but it's the difference between the two. Both have great voices but you can't really compare them. Kerr is more similar to Bono, or Freddie Mercury...or even Jarvis Cocker - theatrical, while Ure is more like Sting, or Paul Weller who let their voice do all the work without the need for additional theatricality.
Yes it was very rude of him.
charliechutney Jims an arsehole. I like the Minds but Jim is clearly an arse..... I met him once and he was still an arse.
I have just stood up after collapsing in disbelief that ROB put Jim Kerr in the same category as Freddie Mercury. I love Simple Minds, son, but clearly you are taking their name as your own.
keogh1969 Yes he wasn't in the same league as Freddie Mercury
Electric soup !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are friends electric???...Who's talking about it....Midge Ure andJim Kerr maybe???....
Aged rockers. Discussing project over bowl of soup instead of pint.
Ultravox had been an adventurous, experimental band under John Foxx. They went pop when Midge Ure joined, understandable as they were desperate for commercial success. Unfortunately, it meant the band that gave us Hiroshima Mon Amour and Dislocation were then offering K-tel pop like Love's Great Adventure. But then, they were not really the same band.
Good for you, ferrers88. I used to wonder whether they should have changed their name when reforming with Midge Ure, as the remaining members of Joy Division had done post Ian Curtis. But the Ultravox name was just starting to gain momentum so I don't blame them for building on that. For the record, I do think Vienna is a very accomplished album, and made for a good "first" album, just was not keen on what followed.
@Barry McCann Jesus H. stepping Christ... Lament is one of the best albums from the 80s. Excellent production. It's back to back just great songs as the other albums had some good tracks but some pitfalls as well. Lament is what Joshua Tree was for U2. Well balanced, well engineered and great songs.
I really liked Rage in Eden, the John Foxx era was ever so slightly before my time although I like his solo stuff.... mostly. I agree about ultra ox Mk1 and Mk2 being different enough to warrant a different name though.
@@barrymccann7892 you're clueless, they are next level compared to UltraFoxx
@@azynkron Joshua tree made u2 the biggest band in the world. Whereas Ultravox virtually disappeard after Lament.
My sister told me Jimmy looks like Rick Ashley!
Jim Kerr is my God
Jim Kerr, I know his brother Wayne.
'The' Simple Minds?
Glasvegas should tour with them
Can we just be clear, Simple Minds are not called 'The' Simple Minds. Only Dutch people say that.
Simple vox vs Ultra minds
No THE in the band name Simple Minds !
Both Singers Are Scottish 😎😎😅
London Palladium???? LOL
'The' Simple Minds?!..
John Foxxx Ultravox was the best..
he's not John Foxx !!!!!
I was rather hoping it was John Foxx when I saw the title of the clip. Foxx has said nice things about Simple Minds, so I thought it possible.
That's not lead singer of Ultravox....that's Midge The Fridge...not the genius John Foxx!
idiot
Whether John Foxx or Midge ure, Ultravox we're a brilliant band no matter which of the aforementioned was fronting them.
leonakita he did play with thin lizzy only filling in for Brian Robertson,but still 😎
Ure’s voice is superior to Foxx’s though. Both unique though
John Foxx wasn't in the same league as Midge Ure for looks or voice.
This is more embarrassing than Tom and Shirley having a pint in a valley's bar. Scots have sold out . Taff will die alone and poor before he does this but his memories will be warmer . I'll have a pint with the former , thanks .
ジムもミッジも頭よさそう 、
I prefered Ultravox with John Foxx. When Midge Ure became the singer they should have changed the name of the band like Joy Division did.
Hi Martin,in my opinion U-VOX wt Foxx was a little bit underrated respect at when Midge come......in fact John Foxx after leave U-VOX make Album not very commercial and sometimes he go frequently in Sperimental Music.....im 60% agree wt u,no compares Midge to John anyway,so different😉👋👋👋🎤🎸
I dont think they change name when Midge arrived also🤔
John Foxx fronting Ultravox were great, Midge Ure's Ultravox less said the better.
Bite your tongue. Please.
Jane Barnes haha good one
More commercial and also Midges affiliation with Band Aid may have eclipsed Ultravox
You always get one!
Agreed. Post Vienna, version 2 were Shiite. Post SFC/SAF Simple Minds were Shiite too.
The bands I like most.but I can't understand when they talk English in Scottish accent it's terrible but when the sing it's different they sound like pure English
Perhaps educate yourself about Scotland and England the BBC corrupted accent is not how UK people sound, it's for the computer generation with English and Scottish regional accents wiped out😮
How embarrassing.
Fred Azbell why
@fred Hahahahaha😂😂😂 i know . Was thinking the same
Simple minds shit on Ultravox, sorry!
No way. Simple minds will never have a performer who can blast out vienna live like midge does. SOZ bro. stupid opinion is stupid
Redraw4444 Hmm, bands about a classy as their fan-base so it seems ...
Keep enjoying Sonya son
Redraw4444 No fuckng way.. Simple Minds are a simple one hit wonder. Utravox is art