Zain vs Mang0 - Winners Final: Top 8 Melee Singles - Genesis 7 | Marth vs Falco

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  • Опубликовано: 25 янв 2020
  • Zain (Marth) vs C9 Mang0 (Falco) - Melee Singles Top 8: Winners Finals - Genesis 7
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  • @ThePi314Man
    @ThePi314Man 4 года назад +274

    "I'm never losing to Zain again!"
    Now that's the Mango

    • @bladefox5082
      @bladefox5082 3 года назад +3

      Oh boy did he lose to Zain again

    • @roy8749
      @roy8749 2 года назад

      @@bladefox5082 ...

    • @bladefox5082
      @bladefox5082 2 года назад +1

      @@roy8749 that was before ss11 lol

  • @sageosaka
    @sageosaka 4 года назад +37

    The very end of that last stock was so beautiful. Zain went full agro mode and shut down every recovery option falco had. Nothing falco did could have saved him. If you watch after those 3 jabs... He even runs off the stage to cover any further potential recovery. Text book option coverage.

  • @justfetus
    @justfetus 4 года назад +59

    this is SUCH a great match. Would've loved to see a rematch in the grand finals.

  • @yusuke2468
    @yusuke2468 4 года назад +37

    7:24 that mangle though

  • @SYao99
    @SYao99 4 года назад +31

    There were more powershields in this game than I've ever seen in my life

    • @JoshT4life
      @JoshT4life 4 года назад +1

      You should see him vs samus

  • @Greyhound33
    @Greyhound33 4 года назад +99

    Zain looks so intimidating to play. Maybe most intimidating player today

    • @haydonc5256
      @haydonc5256 4 года назад +30

      Acorn 15 I swear everytime someone beats Zain, they pop off super hard. Zain really makes them work for it.

    • @Greyhound33
      @Greyhound33 4 года назад +1

      From Maui lmao fr

    • @lukerose4166
      @lukerose4166 4 года назад +9

      From Maui He’s like a Marth playing Armada

    • @blakeswanson1322
      @blakeswanson1322 3 года назад +1

      @@Greyhound33 no lol how did mango take any of armadas style

  • @john-erichernandez432
    @john-erichernandez432 4 года назад +134

    Zain with the mogul moves sweatshirt

    • @harb1ng3r82
      @harb1ng3r82 4 года назад +39

      It’s his first time ever wearing it too, otherwise the logo would have come off by now.

    • @john-erichernandez432
      @john-erichernandez432 4 года назад +2

      @@harb1ng3r82 lmfao

  • @neilw5541
    @neilw5541 4 года назад +172

    Somebody sponsor this Zain guy please

    • @jordanadams7129
      @jordanadams7129 4 года назад +12

      Neil W “This zain guy” He is top 10 in the world put some respec on his name

    • @raheshramesh413
      @raheshramesh413 4 года назад +4

      Jordan Adams looking more like top 5 recently

    • @michaelcorser4350
      @michaelcorser4350 4 года назад +5

      @@raheshramesh413 Looking more top 3 to me.

    • @pretzel_aksmash353
      @pretzel_aksmash353 4 года назад +33

      He's very good with blue haired sword guy

    • @Wouldbutnaw
      @Wouldbutnaw 4 года назад +8

      Man if only he was sponsored by a 5'2 man who is a round 1 pools commentator

  • @PKWinning07
    @PKWinning07 4 года назад +23

    I feel like the set going game 5 actually made it a bigger win for Zain, just to show that he can clutch these out

  • @CheapShotFail
    @CheapShotFail 4 года назад +67

    As hype as Mango - Leffen is, I think Mango - Zain is starting to be my favorite matchup in the game. These sets here and at Big House were insane.

    • @ThatWolfArrow
      @ThatWolfArrow 4 года назад +10

      I agree. Personally, I'd also throw in Zain/Hbox. Seeing two patient players with spacing oriented characters is super nerve racking but also super fascinating.

    • @CheapShotFail
      @CheapShotFail 4 года назад +3

      @@ThatWolfArrow Agree completely. Ever since Zain has started taking sets off of Hbox he's refined the matchup a ton for Marth and it's amazing to watch.

    • @Dee_micl
      @Dee_micl 2 года назад +1

      Rewatching this 2 years later. I agree

  • @matthewaitkenfilms9477
    @matthewaitkenfilms9477 4 года назад +30

    This set is insane, theyre both incredible!

  • @KenShinta174
    @KenShinta174 4 года назад +12

    Come on no one is going to talk about this 16:45 ? That’s the craziest and most amazing play I have ever seen

  • @speedyhoneybear
    @speedyhoneybear 4 года назад +8

    WOW! Sets like these make me wish i was fast enough to pick up melee again. Zain is so fun to watch!

  • @falco830
    @falco830 4 года назад +47

    Remember PC Chris vs Ken...
    Now it’s history repeating itself at a much higher level...

  • @numbby1140
    @numbby1140 4 года назад +7

    honestly, this is one of the best commentated sets i've ever watched in melee.
    so much info on the matchup

    • @ADavidJohnson
      @ADavidJohnson 2 года назад +3

      They’re so good at informing you about the matchup, the narrative around it, and the emotional flow of the match
      It’s really incredible how well Scar and Toph commentate, especially together

  • @TheTechnopider
    @TheTechnopider 4 года назад +6

    16:13 that's the most melee shit I've ever seen

  • @chriscastle1629
    @chriscastle1629 4 года назад +4

    "He might be playing what I'm saying!" one of my favorite scar lines

  • @TheObicobiHD
    @TheObicobiHD 4 года назад +3

    What an *AMAZING* set, woow that last match was insane!! Zain!! Zain's Marth living after covering all of Falco's options 😭💖 GGs Mang0!! He played so very well 👏

  • @MonjeFuti
    @MonjeFuti 4 года назад +86

    That was inZain

  • @Gr8saiyaman88
    @Gr8saiyaman88 4 года назад +3

    6:20 “I love the Lord”
    - Bobby Scar

  • @Skelen
    @Skelen 4 года назад +1

    2020 this game still rockin!! Love it and the people!! Let's keep the love flowin with some trash talk 😁👍

  • @Oscar797
    @Oscar797 3 года назад

    Falco vs Marth is an awesome matchup. Between these 2 it’s even better. What a sick set

  • @hmcglouf
    @hmcglouf 4 года назад +3

    That was such a great set

  • @MarquezVincent
    @MarquezVincent 4 года назад +20

    4:25 This guys it literally is only saying "Yeah" xD

  • @TrogDH
    @TrogDH Год назад +1

    16:11 is one of the coolest, flashiest interactions in melee history

  • @shaaktee1941
    @shaaktee1941 3 года назад +2

    4:08 mang0 is secretly drinking beer.

  • @sadied0g
    @sadied0g 4 года назад +3

    Scar says Zain is new to genesis top 8. He really never got top 8 before, and wins it the first time he does? DAMN

  • @malkavian6275
    @malkavian6275 3 года назад

    The post-game stats are SO SICK

  • @spaarkk6502
    @spaarkk6502 3 года назад

    this was the real grand finals

  • @Noahtheorigianl
    @Noahtheorigianl 4 года назад

    production value so highhhh

  • @Mallwan
    @Mallwan 3 года назад

    one of the bests sets for sure

  • @oldtownscouts3712
    @oldtownscouts3712 4 года назад +1

    It's funny after such an intense, technical, god level set it ends with a simple jab. A button for the win.

  • @quesote20
    @quesote20 4 года назад

    This is the pinnacle of Marth - Falco

  • @maxgurman633
    @maxgurman633 4 года назад +3

    "Is using forward B a new idea?"
    No, thats bobby big ballz

    • @NiteCyper
      @NiteCyper 4 года назад +1

      Using it to escape to/edge cancel on top platform, more specifically. Mango uses it several times in this run at Genesis. No, it's not new but it is niche. I personally associate it most with Axe, but that might be more because of Pikachu tech: Quick Attack from ground level to edge cancel on top platform.

  • @OrlotPiuri
    @OrlotPiuri 4 года назад +2

    Mango vs Zain is the new mango vs leffen

  • @Rookums
    @Rookums 4 года назад

    When mango hit the phantom back air in game three it was all over.

  • @chanegun
    @chanegun 2 года назад

    Praying this is grand finals at G8

  • @andrewkibler9384
    @andrewkibler9384 4 года назад +6

    Mango threw it away with the side bs at the end

    • @100mangroper
      @100mangroper 4 года назад +9

      there is never a right recovery, he lost neutral to get put in those situations, nothing mattered after that point

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 года назад +1

      @@100mangroper yep. Zain covered literally every option falco had. Nothing mango could have done. If you watch after those jabs, Zain even runs off the stage to cover a potential up-b from mango. Literally perfect option coverage from Zain.

  • @linebeck1381
    @linebeck1381 2 года назад

    I can’t help but laugh every time I see Zain in the Mogul Moves hoodie.

  • @anomonomity
    @anomonomity 4 года назад

    for those wondering, i’m pretty sure if you get hit out of up B without using your jump you lose your double jump

  • @hungryluma27
    @hungryluma27 2 года назад

    THAT OFF STAGE KILL ZAIN GOT WITH THE LOW EDGE GUARD WAS THE SICKEST THING IVE EVER SEEN

  • @Goreblender
    @Goreblender 4 года назад +1

    it's mandatory that every time someone hits with multiple hit of falco fair, the commentators talk about how much damage it does

  • @benji417
    @benji417 4 года назад +12

    Mang0 wishes he had Zain's Mogul Moves.

  • @giantclaw138
    @giantclaw138 4 года назад +4

    This is by far my favorite Jojo episode

  • @eddiestilll
    @eddiestilll 3 года назад

    marth vs falco never gets old!! :)

  • @AceVenturaWhenNatureCalls
    @AceVenturaWhenNatureCalls 4 года назад +10

    3:53 - 4:09 LOL

    • @ejcandrin
      @ejcandrin 4 года назад

      Falco isn't top tier though

  • @madridaburto
    @madridaburto 4 года назад

    Fucking amazing!!!!!lets goooooo

  • @F0rger513
    @F0rger513 4 года назад +7

    Boy the Blur hate is real to extend this long in Melee lol

    • @areebmasoodi8932
      @areebmasoodi8932 3 года назад

      Haha facts. Why the hate on him I don't understand

  • @RMahna94
    @RMahna94 4 года назад

    Zain capitalizing on Mang0 being Mang0. Good ass set.

  • @pogd740
    @pogd740 2 года назад

    hoping for the rematch genesis 8

  • @darkbatu
    @darkbatu 4 года назад

    this is epic.

  • @NintenJoe
    @NintenJoe 3 года назад

    This was over a year ago :(

  • @0Enigmatic0
    @0Enigmatic0 3 года назад

    I fucking knew Zain would be best in the world. The one summit a while ago where he was getting some crazy pseudo chain grab di mixups I knew he would lab his way to number 1. Now it's how long his reign will be

  • @JoshT4life
    @JoshT4life 4 года назад +2

    Zain the new god

  • @aidenhastings6341
    @aidenhastings6341 4 года назад +1

    They didn’t know up B eats your double jump?

  • @falco830
    @falco830 4 года назад +1

    Choo Choo ALL ABORD THE ZAIN TRAIN!!!

  • @thor10001
    @thor10001 3 года назад +1

    I miss melee.

  • @Snowballsage
    @Snowballsage 3 года назад +1

    5:42 I don’t play melee but even I could tell that he was dead once he double jumped

  • @Mr.Monky420
    @Mr.Monky420 4 года назад +1

    You think Zain has the potential to be the next Ken or is this game too crowded with too many Gods that all keep winning tournaments decently evenly enough to where Zain could even consistently hold a reign?

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 года назад

      Zain is really starting to come into his own as far as consistency goes. During his rise in '17 and '18 he had some really high peaks but definitely still struggled with consistency... And in '19 kinda seemed like he hit a wall or plateau as people started to figure him out... But at the end of 19 and starting here in 2020 he seems like he's starting to get a lock on being consistently great.

    • @chrisp2757
      @chrisp2757 4 года назад +1

      It’s all about the Marth. He jabs so fast and covers so much real estate with the sword. Then turns on the power with a flick of the wrist.
      I think it’s incredible that Marth hasn’t been more widely used.

  • @nathaniel5956
    @nathaniel5956 4 года назад

    17:53

  • @matthewaitkenfilms9477
    @matthewaitkenfilms9477 4 года назад +7

    And zain gies on to win it all, zain is insane

  • @ForrestBreeze
    @ForrestBreeze 3 года назад

    where was m2k in this tourney?

    • @NintenJoe
      @NintenJoe 3 года назад

      M2k doesn't enter melee anymore, instead focusing on his book

  • @foxy2348
    @foxy2348 4 года назад +1

    FD BAN?

  • @178laaleros
    @178laaleros 4 года назад +1

    And mango on his twitch stream said zain is never going to beat him alright buddy keep saying that

  • @noodletribunal9793
    @noodletribunal9793 4 года назад

    10:35 "i think 'they' was him" XD

  • @eelllliiootttt
    @eelllliiootttt 4 года назад +3

    7:34 what is a phantom

    • @DarkxNemesis
      @DarkxNemesis 4 года назад

      EJ Maggs When the game doesnt register a hit connecting but still makes the sound effect and such. Like a phantom rest from a puff where it makes the loud “clank” but the player doesnt go anywhere and puff falls asleep giving the player a free punish

    • @saraskyline8331
      @saraskyline8331 4 года назад

      It happens when you're a few frames off of a hit

    • @Delajoyason
      @Delajoyason 4 года назад

      To be specific it’s when you’re a pixel off your hit, so it’s the in between of actually landing your hit and missing. That’s why Toph calls it bonus damage but there’s no knock back

  • @kennyfernandez2866
    @kennyfernandez2866 4 года назад

    How are the Falco lasers being returned by Marth's shielding?

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 года назад +1

      It's a tech called power shielding. It basically turns your shield into a reflector if you can time it right.

    • @kennyfernandez2866
      @kennyfernandez2866 4 года назад

      @@jjrambles683 Damn. Didn't know. With any projectile?

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 года назад

      @@kennyfernandez2866 yep, you see it a lot against falcos cause he's one of the few top tiers, aside from peach, that can projectile camp.

    • @emperorlokire7648
      @emperorlokire7648 4 года назад

      JJ Rambles I just wish this was in ultimate.

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 года назад

      @@emperorlokire7648 honestly yeah, it would change the meta so drastically if projectile characters just couldn't spam because their weapons would just be reflected back at them and would make the game much faster paced

  • @noodlespwn42
    @noodlespwn42 4 года назад +2

    @16:55 why did he do that

    • @gonzo_o_o
      @gonzo_o_o 4 года назад

      Yeah that was the set, I think. In that position, Mango should have hunkered down in the pit and absolutely refused to get routed from there. Instead he put himself in a spot to get launched by Zain and ultimately KO'd

  • @shiv604
    @shiv604 4 года назад +2

    People complaining about PS, yet no one says jack shit about FD lmao

  • @chuckwellington3307
    @chuckwellington3307 4 года назад +3

    Melee is so much more exciting than Ultimate tbh.
    I can't stand Fox for the love of it, but I'd lie if I said the games aren't super exciting to watch at least.
    People can actually go off-stage and secure kills in this game, something they stopped giving a shit about after Brawl.

    • @oldtownscouts3712
      @oldtownscouts3712 4 года назад

      There's plenty of offstage kills in Ultimate on a ton of the cast the problem is a lot of the characters that are good in that game are so difficult and risky to go off stage against that it's not worth it when ledge trapping is safer and often more rewarding. I agree melee is more exciting to watch overall, but LAN mkLeo is incredibly entertaining in Ultimate IMO, along with a dozen or so other top players. Camp-ridden defensive gameplay has dominated the past three smash games for sure however.

  • @jetstreamattackhirot
    @jetstreamattackhirot 4 года назад

    17:45 What music?

  • @rpenguin12345
    @rpenguin12345 3 года назад

    what shoes? were at home now and i think he's wearing socks!

  • @bluepeacemaker
    @bluepeacemaker 4 года назад

    It feels like Mango is the better player, however Zain's punish game is something else and can get a stock out of each punish, it seems. That must be scary to play against

  • @67254215415413
    @67254215415413 4 года назад

    16:26 and Scar acts like Alex' impression of him isn't spot on

  • @cross25011990
    @cross25011990 4 года назад

    it would be so AMAZING , if another stage would be come in neutral.. 5 are not a lot and battlefield / or pokemon stadium partly sucks

    • @noahbaden90
      @noahbaden90 4 года назад +8

      Yeah, Nintendo should really patch in more stages. I'm starting to think they've stopped supporting Melee.

    • @chadchadwick3401
      @chadchadwick3401 4 года назад

      Huh? Battlefield is like the best stage lol

  • @haydonc5256
    @haydonc5256 4 года назад +4

    All of the Mango fans in the comments making excuses for Mango losing, it’s really annoying. Zain won fair and square, Zain was the better player this set.

  • @nathanlabrin2392
    @nathanlabrin2392 4 года назад +2

    Why are they playing on those old TVs?

    • @yomommamonkey
      @yomommamonkey 4 года назад +4

      Nathan Labrynth can’t tell if your joking lol. It reduces lag time.

    • @nathanlabrin2392
      @nathanlabrin2392 4 года назад +1

      Eden Shorrocks Alr cool thank you

    • @ChrisTomatoPie
      @ChrisTomatoPie 4 года назад

      @@yomommamonkey what lag are you talking about? im just curios, too. its a LAN event and dont modern monitors have less reaction time?

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 года назад

      @@ChrisTomatoPie if played on a PC and emulator that was set up to actually run at higher response times.. then yes but this is a Nintendo sanctioned event and that wouldn't be allowed.

    • @negativesplits06
      @negativesplits06 3 года назад

      @@sageosaka I’ve been playing Melee on a plasma TV, which does have a little bit of lag. Now it’s a bitch trying to get used to playing Melee on Dolphin since it doesn’t have that lag.

  • @pudgeypig3521
    @pudgeypig3521 4 года назад +2

    I SEE ZAIN REPPING THAT MOGUL MOVES. LUDWIG.GG FELLAS

  • @il100374
    @il100374 4 года назад +1

    played a lil sloppy and tooo aggressive at times. still a dope set

  • @omfgacceptmyname
    @omfgacceptmyname 4 года назад

    geniseae

  • @The_Secure_Juan
    @The_Secure_Juan 4 года назад

    Commenting 101
    commentator 1: when Zain attacks ...... etc
    commentator 2: yeah
    commentator 1: and when Mango attacks this way you always see the......
    commentator 2: yeah
    commentator 1: shout out to our sponsor WATER! Stay hydrated kids!
    commentator 2: yeah

  • @Greyhound33
    @Greyhound33 13 дней назад

    The pee pee forward air

  • @mdigregorio15
    @mdigregorio15 4 года назад

    Mango land

  • @apaul7502
    @apaul7502 4 года назад +1

    i wonder if people feel bad beating mango. mango is who most people want to win, so whoever beats him knows that theyre ruining a lot of peoples days

    • @Vomer0
      @Vomer0 4 года назад

      Imagine traveling to events and having to pay for that as well as investing all your time into getting good at the game. I imagine it'd be easier than you'd think

  • @KittSpiken
    @KittSpiken 4 года назад +2

    What the hell is Scar wearing and how is it KILLING the game?

  • @KG66610
    @KG66610 4 года назад +2

    Mango loses because of Stadium transformation, yikes...

    • @mamonsin
      @mamonsin 4 года назад

      I mean Zain was all over him before the transformation happened

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 года назад

      You can tell Zain was down to wait it out.... Mango is the one that rushed in and got punished for it.

  • @MasterNinjaXz
    @MasterNinjaXz 4 года назад

    Zain is playing out if his mind, but Mango shouldve won. The Mr Smith's were getting scared bro, he was turning it on so fucking hard towards the end, but had a true Mango ending, choked off a reflected laser and missed waveshine.

  • @iaimen865
    @iaimen865 4 года назад +8

    Nooo marth winning is always sad...

    • @Greyhound33
      @Greyhound33 4 года назад +1

      Spoilers

    • @tomcruise7481
      @tomcruise7481 4 года назад +9

      As a Marth main
      Fuck you.

    • @bluepeacemaker
      @bluepeacemaker 4 года назад +18

      No, dude. ICs winning is usually the saddest thing in Melee

    • @iaimen865
      @iaimen865 4 года назад

      @@Greyhound33 yes but salt

    • @Greyhound33
      @Greyhound33 4 года назад

      I Aimen nah you salt. bic boi

  • @Michael-cg5qn
    @Michael-cg5qn 4 года назад

    People still play this game? Golly they gotta move on cause there is literally a new smash bros game and all the characters don't play the same or the same characters get picked all the fucking time