THE Computer of the 2000s - Apple iMac G3
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This iMac G3 isn't exactly an unboxing since well... it's already unboxed and not brand new.. but Alex wanted to check it out anyway!
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Note: Audio mic issues due to the internals of the G3.
Oh ok thank you. Monitor noise I'd assume since it's crt?
Sus
Yeah, right.
Well now that we have seen your HackPro build one in this Case please
More Retro.
Holy crap, we NEED an Alex and Anthony retro tech series!!! Honestly, the best videos are those you're clearly excited or passionate about doing. This video was exciting and interesting because you took us on a journey, shared some of your own experience and threw short jabs at the boss. Who doesn't want to do that! ;) Anyway, we love what you guys do, and I would TOTALLY watch an Alex&Anthony Retro Romp series!
NEXT computers next am i right?
I'd especially love it if they do really old Computers. like Pentium and older.
I could see them set up an 8088 machine, or just literally build one from scratch.. i'd watch that being soldered and explained as a stream.
that's a good thing about old hardware, the older it is the more DIY Projects you can do for it!
so 8088, C64, or even a custom computer would be amazing for a lot of content
Preferably Anthony as he knows a lot more.
Yes, but they should definitely pay closer attention to the facts than Alex is paying here. (I am a vintage computer expert, if anyone has any questions.)
yes linus yes
"Screw you, Linus. This thing's interesting."
-- Alexander Clark, 2020
"This was the last generation of PowerPC"
There were two more after it, the G4 and the G5. And the first half of OSX's life was on PowerPC and not x86. It does run like shit on a G3 though.
Yeah, not to mention the PowerMac and PowerBook lines. Didn't PowerMac G5 actually stay in production for a good year after the x86 transition? I seem to recall that MacBook (replacing PowerBook) and Mac mini were the only products to get x86 early on.
I definitely bought both a G4 mini and a PowerMac G5 in 2005, which were well after this iMac G3.
There were also six revisions of the iMac G3. Since this one is 400MHz that indicates it's a July 2000 model, so it wasn't even the last revision of iMac G3.
(I am absolutely SHOCKED that anyone who works for LTT would get anything about Macs wrong. /s)
@@fluffycritter MacBook replaced iBook
I had an iBook G3 900Mhz and it ran OSX Tiger really *really* well, way better than you'd have expected for a 900Mhz cpu. Probably due to that PowerPC instructions per clock difference...
@@apolloeosphoros4345 Oh right, it's MacBook Pro which replaced Powerbook. And that came out a few months before the MacBook.
I also remember being annoyed that they changed the name based on "We're not doing Power before," when the original PowerBooks were 68K-based, before Apple did the PPC transition.
Just 2 days ago moving into my new office, I found an old Quicksilver G4. With a 867mhz ppc, 512mb ram and a 80Gb hdd still boot faster than my win10 machine
Matt White
This gave the Pepsi apple CEO people the money to buy Steve back in, and his neXt system!
no more need for IBM split deal PowerPC 6800 gear....
More of Alex and this kind of stuff, Linus.
Please do more of this stuff, it's quite a change of pace! Also we need more Anthony in videos...
Techincally we need less of Anthony in videos because man if he doesn't lose weight soon he won't live to see 50.
@@mico6155 are u ok
@Mykel Hardin i need him in my life uwu
I love Anthony 😀 He is the best
Don't be mean to Anthony.
The G5 was the reason Apple switched processors. The G3's were quite efficent.
Yep, the particular G3 in this iMac (a 400MHz PPC750L) only draws ~5 watts at full load. When installing temperature monitoring tools on my PowerBook G3 with the same CPU I was surprised it only reached 50 degrees under heavy load, and the fan didn't even run!
"Quality journalism"
Thinking that now the year 2000 is considered 'really old things' makes me feel older than ever before. It's wild how quickly time passes as you age...
This old gal now on the level of Apple IIs (I wasn't really made frequently, and we all know how III/Lisa ended up.), and many might return just for nostalgia.
Tornado Mimi Cyclone I’m on that level as well. IIGS was my first legit (not word processing) computer :)
Dear Linus:
I, a random user, in name of the whole LTT community declare that anything hosted and/or proposed by Alex or Anthony has an enormous potential of interest for us, and I strongly suggest you to take word of any "absurd" project that said fellows may propose in the future.
I hereby second that statement.
Absolutely, this was much more interesting then benchmarking server CPU's I'll never be able to afford.
@@timklein1073 I like those too. But this was awesome.
I too will submit a vote for this ^^^
I, leader of the he-man women haters club six-ith thee afore mentioned statement
I love how LMG has diversified their talent away from just Linus... they have created a whole stable of very credible and marketable host personalities. A RUclipsr training stable!
Yet they are all similar because of Linus. I love it, the channels, Linus for having insane motivation, and all the other hosts, writers, camera crew, and the other employees that don't fall into those categories.
Unless you actually lived through the tech he mentions... yeah... PowerPC did not die with the G3... it went on for another 8+ years. The G5 PowerMacs for example. iMac out in 99? Yeah.... no.... it came out in 98. The model he shows, yes.. that was a 99 machine with the slot loader.
@@oddball_the_blue you gotta take him credit though hes not really that into retro stuff and more in modern stuff
@Galaxy TS2 Well I will because this video basically corrects all the mistakes Alex made. ruclips.net/video/yN5H7HAT_mk/видео.html
That’s because Linus hopes to retire some day
FYI Alex the technical term for the startup noise is chime just putting it out there so you can avoid the awkwardness next time lol
In general I find LTT videos to be pretty well researched. It doesn't seem that is carrying over to the ShortCircuit channel. I was a Mac-head back in the day, and I can pick out multiple errors from this video:
1) The iMac G3 used IDE hard drives. SCSI was a thing in Macs, but not the iMac. At the time SCSI was still available in the beige PowerMac G3's. I can't remember if the Blue and White G3's had SCSI or not. I'm 95% sure that starting with the G4 PowerMacs you had to use a PCI card for SCSI if you wanted it.
2) G3 and prior PPC chips did not generate near the amount of heat that even the first Core chips Apple used. I had a PPC G3 upgrade for my PowerMac 6500, and it was passively cooled with a heat sink that is smaller than the heat sink on a GT1030 passively cooled card. The switch to Intel was due to issues with the G5 chip being produced at scale in addition to what was proving to be shitty IPC for the G5 unless an absurd amount of power was fed to it. IBM has gone on to use the Power architecture for many years and they currently make very capable server chips using this architecture.
3) The implication in the video is that poor design on Apple's part led to the Intel switch. This is not the case at all.
4) Pretty much every major computer company has made all-in-one systems since the 1980's. They are not Apple started with the original Macintosh as an AIO and has continued to produce AIO systems ever since. As best I remember there has always been at least one AIO system in Apple's line-up since the original Macintosh. In fact, the Macintosh SE/30 has attained almost legendary status for its ability to be a monster machine (for the era) in a toaster mac package. IBM, Compaq, and others manufactured AIO systems (I remember using AIO 386 IBM and Compaq computers in high school).
lowendmac.com/1999/350-mhz-imac-late-1999/
They've previously mentioned that for short circuit, its literally as simple as grabbing a camera man, grabbing a host, and shooting the video. This channel isn't meant to be detailed, although I do agree that some degree of research would be so much better than none at all.
Yea this channel is should not be taken too seriously.
@@AL-lh2htYeah, but it's still misinformation though
0:08
Alex: *slaps roof of iMac G3*
this bad boy can fit so much dust in it.
"The Dong" - It sounded so weird when he said it, but I understand completely what he meant when the sound came on.
What can you say he just loves that dong
That classic Mac sound was made by one of the OS engineers called Simon Reeks, they told him not to bother making a startup chime but he did It anyway... what a rebbe
Have u never heard the dong?
I always called it the Bong.
It was actually THE BONG, not Dong. Dong is what the LTT users have going on backstage.
Boy. I'm sorry… I love nostalgia trips, but there's so much misinformation in this video. x_x I'm not perfect either, God knows, but a little fact-checking can go a long way. I know you can do better.
Exactly! Hold my beer... I'm about to set the record straight on this iMac: ruclips.net/video/yN5H7HAT_mk/видео.html
@@Mac84 LOL
Galaxy TS2 and nothing worse than someone defending their favorite even though everything Mac84 said in his video was fact and accurate. Alex could have done a little bit of research before making this video.
This annoys me because I know a couple of great iMac G3 history videos (heck, I even made one myself) that don’t get nearly as much views or interest as this video.
to be fair, its an old computer
"Kind of the last generation of PowerPC Macs" (1999-2002)
iMac G5 (2004-06): Am I a joke to you
Alex : "If I touch any of this, I die"
Also Alex: *waves finger 2cm away from death machine*
Dismantling an old iMac G3: unexpectedly hardcore.
Nah just get a wire and wrap it around a screwdriver and ground it to the corner wire & then shove the screwdriver under the rubber cap on the bottom of the monitor and wiggle it around until you hear a pop sound :) ... used to repair them .. it was always fun
The warnings of death are greatly exaggerated. It's easy to do safely, just like any electrical work. My question is, why replace the CRT? Swap out the computer for a Rpi4 or NUC for a killer portable retrocade.
Also also Alex: talks and gestures excitedly whilst wielding a blade inches from his head during disassembly.
@@TTim4 Reminds me of my vocational school days, was taught the same method
Can't wait to see "We put a GAMING PC in this old IMAC!?"
Or perhaps better- a tricked-out Hackintosh in an iMac (so macOS for Apple apps; Windows for gaming).
An Hackintosh would be fantastic!
no actually that would be fire.
I'd rather they didn't do that. Just leave it as it is.
I built one many years ago, 15 maybe? Trouble is these days getting a "square" 4x3 LCD panel to fit where the CRT was, back when I did it they were still common.
The slot loading CD drive does have a force eject, its in a similar spot as on a standard cd drive. you basically push directly on a gear inside.
The iMac DV does actually have an emergency eject button. Just push a paperclip into the slot at the right edge.
Also the normal iMac has it :)
So that's actually one of the later iMac G3's made probably made in early 2001 (if it is a 400 MHz model). The original ones that came out in 1998 were one color and completely different. They were tray-loading had a fan and there was metal plating in the inside of the dome at the back so you couldn't see the CRT. The internal design was completely different. They later came out with a revision c of that original one and that was the first one that had different colors. But it retains the same design. it was only after that they came out with the slot loading ones that have a very similar design to this one. The lower end ones did not have FireWire. I do believe the summer 2001 models shipped dual booted with 9.2.2 and 10.1. The iMac G4 came out less than a year later in January 2002.
same
I have a first gen G3 sitting in my parents' basement. Last time I plugged it in it still worked but it could definitely use a bit of restoration work. I need to go get it sometime lol.
AND. THAT'S NOT SCSI. ITS IDE (UltraATA). Max ram was 1GB of PC100 SDRAM, internal Rage 128 Pro w/ 8MB VRAM. Coolest part was when a disc didn't eject, you could just stick a paperclip into the right side of the slot loader.
@@crispinds I did pick up on that.
I have a 2 second gen iMac and an iMac DV in a closet. I don't even use them.
"Only 2 USB Ports"
The iMac was in 1998 literally one of the first computers to ship USB to the masses. Also this isn't even close to be the last iMac with a PowerPC CPU. There were two major resdesigns with a PowerPC CPU (G4 and G5) after that one.
I imagine some people may of been pissed off because of the lack of a PS/2 port
I had the Intel iMac right after the g5 one! It was so chunky but I thought it was so cool that it was all-in-one. Lots of good times using iMovie and iTunes as a kid
@@pdfman4297 I don't think Macs used PS/2, many of the older ones used ADB.
@@pdfman4297 At that time wouldn't still have been a ADB port not PS/2?
Don't forget, the shipped keyboard also had 2 USB, so in theory you got 3.
Cool video, I loved the little G3 iMacs! But there were two generations of PowerPC Macs after that. That machine came out in 2000 and there were a good 6 years of PowerPC after that - all the way up to a 2.5 GHz quad-core. The G3’s and G4’s weren’t power hungry or hot, but the G5’s were and Apple had no way of making a G5 laptop, which was their fastest growing segment; thus the switch to x86.
ahh brings me back to the first day of second grade walking into the computer lab and seeing the sea of multicolored macs and just how sick i thought it was
Buttttttttttt did he ever get his sublime cd back?
This warranted an episode for itself!
Some say he's still trying to put it back together to this day.
From memory you could still use a paper clip on those cd drives, you just had to know the the right spot and feel for eject level.
Man I miss Sublime...
@@ShortCircuit Alex is a Stig confirmed.
Linus!!! We want more retro stuff!
-Sincerely everyone that existed on earth prior to the year 2000
Well yes but they should do a bit more research into it. Or they could just ask the 8-bit guy or Clint from LGR.
Ooh, breakdown of older retro Consoles as well
Hardly the last PowerPC. This is the G3, they later released the G4 and the G5, which was the *really* hot one. They were in league with IBM and Motorola making an alternative to intel. PowerPC had plenty of innovations to come before Apple stopped using it, like Altivec/"Velocity Engine" FPU, but the manufacturing couldn't keep up with the need for faster and cooler CPUs. The switch didn't happen until 5-6 years after this computer was produced.
Definitely a retro (or not) technical video with Alex & Anthony are much appreciated, keep up the good work my dude.
7:45 I want more retro stuff. In fact, I'd be up for a whole new Linus Retro Refurb channel.
I think it would be cool if you guys tried building something “modern” for a sleeper. Assuming of course you guys could find a display.
This thing is so cool...will be relevent in 2050
MASTER FAZE SAITAMA I agree this computer will always be cool. That’s why I would love it if they could bring it to a second lease at life.
How about no?
We had these in college but never really used them they were mostly decorations that looked nice in the corners lol people used to turn them on just for the chime. Looking back they were once revolutionary for the time nice to look back at the retro tech
I absolutely love old macs & 70’s/80’s/90’s tech.
Love retro content! Its interesting to see not only how things have changed, but the reasons they were set up that way to begin with. Plus, the internals are usually more straightforward, which makes understanding how it all works easier when teaching advanced concepts.
The suspense is killing me. Did he ever get his Sublime CD back??
Targhor dude, i also want to know
Ditto
no. some say he's still putting it back together to this day
Oh how miss my room in high school, complete with ruby red iMac G3. I definitely wanna see more retro gear. Great job guys
Back in 2001 in the 6th grade my school in PA had a bunch of these . In red, blue and green. They had us doing projects on it.
I remember this computer being in all the school the early 2000’s and everyone loved playing bugdom on it
Yesss Bugdom! People who didn't play that have no idea what they were missing out on.
I spent hours on that game 😱
I was looking for this comment :)
"I need to put this iMac G3 back together so I can get my Sublime CD back" is definitely a sentence I have not heard since 2001
Weirdly I initially assumed he was referring to the Sublime text editor, and I was confused about why it existed on CD-ROM.
Phantom Limbs and that’s not quite true. the slot loading iMacs had a small button that you could press to force eject the cds that were stuck without powering it on.
I recognized right away that first song he tries in iTunes was Garden Grove. :P
So... the heat thing. That was an issue later. Some early PPC CPU’s didn’t even need a heat sink. By the G5 era, they were super hot. Apple actually had liquid cooled Power Macs. And there never was a G5 laptop, it just couldn’t be made in a way that would work. Back in those crazy days, Apple used the same CPU’s in their laptops and desktops. I have a G4 iMac (still running!) and it’s got a much beefier heat sink. If you look at Intel CPU’s from that same era, they didn’t have much cooling either.
The bane of all CPU manufacturers is sitting on their laurels, running their architecture into the ground with overheating CPUs, before getting their buyers to move on to better pastures. PowerPC, AMD, and now it’s Intel’s time.
@@Rudenbehr AMD didn't really have an architecture. The reason you can use an AMD or an Intel CPU in a PC build is because AMD runs on the x86 (Intel) instruction set.
I had the original teal iMac G3 and it was a beaut. Screen quality was above and beyond the typical CRT of that era and the computer held its own in CPU and GPU speed. I used mine as an emulation machine, playing everything from MAME, to even Playstation one games with the commercial PS1 emulator, back when PS1 was still the most popular console.
thankfully I never ran Mac OS X on it, only system 9 and BEOS. (which was lightning fast on g3, reminds me of how responsive mac OS is on modern hardware)
This thing brings so much nostalgia as it was the library computer in my elementary school
We had an eMac in our school library
The cool thing is that it probably still is!
That old iMac being a sleeper computer being a modern day computer with a modern day monitor that would be so sick
Has been done to death
Hardly a sleeper but just slap some small computer like a nuc or a raspberry pi in there with some cables to connect to the existing io/screen and you have a fun little retro gaming machine
I would weep tears of nostalgic joy if you guys took apart a TRS-80. Doesn't matter which iteration - why not all of them.
On the other hand, I don't think there's anyone at LTT old enough to be nostalgic for that like I am.
LOVE that you covered this! I remember when these came out, they changed the industry forever.
Nobody:
Alex: *slaps roof of iMac G3*
edit: hey Linus, let Anthony and Alex do more retro build stuff.
“No one really makes all-in-ones anymore “
Dell, HP, and Apple: “Are you challenging me!?!”
to be fair, that is only three companies which is not many
Might as well throw Microsoft into it too! Remember the Surface Studio?
Microsoft, Acer, Asus as well.
the asus mothership was a rly cool one tho
Are not all laptops all in one?
this is the computer that saved Apple from vanishing, this was my first Mac and my very first computer, back in the day you saw this computer as a piece of art, even today, it still is gorgeous looking
Exposed capacitors! I learned about those the hard way when I took apart my Commodore 64. I was 14 or 15 (almost 50 now) and still remember the jolt.
A retro tech video every once in a while would be a cool idea. We need to remember our roots as nerds. I was working as an HP in store sales rep when those released. Feels like a lifetime ago. Thanks for the memories.
old tech is really cool to have someone look at and talk about.
The VGA out on the back is mirroring only, meant to be used with a projector. If you want to see the heat issues they complained about you should check out the heat sinks on a dual G5 Power Mac, they take up half of the case.
I remember taking a couple of those apart when I was 13 years old to figure out how computers work. I love this type of nostalgia. You should do more retro content like this.
9:15, for what it's worth, the G3 (and G4) were highly efficient per clock chips, with a short 4 stage pipeline you might just be surprised to find what IPC it would post even to this day. It was the G5 that entered IBM into the clock speed chasing days and was way too inefficient to make the laptops they wanted out of it.
Yup they couldn’t get the laptops to work with the G5, with the PowerMac G5 being watercooled. If I remember IBM were also becoming more focused on their industrial chips.
Yeah it's good but that there might had better options
@@aluandcache7336Hardly. Apple was really focused on building a Pentium-killer reputation for PowerPC. And they did it very well.
8:03 That isn't SCSI, it is standard IDE. The system supports drives up to around 128GB using standard IDE hard drives.
yes thank you what i think confused them is the non standard cable its wider aka more pin from the logic board to the cd drive i guess for cd audio or power, been to long since i had one apart. but it was standard ide to the hard drive the cd drive also used an adapter board and under it was standard laptop ide interface.
SCSI was discontinued use in PCs around 94 or so because of the cost and expanse of the components. IDE provided much lower power needs with high data throughput. SCSI is really aimed at mainframes, servers and hard drive banks.
@@DHTSciFiArtist For Apple computers, the last Mac (to my knowledge) that used SCSI was the Power Mac G3 Minitower and Desktop models. They were discontinued in December 1998.
i think i put a 500 or a 250gb in one once, late model though
SCSI was never really 'standard' equipment on PCs. IDE was *invented* by IBM *for* the PC AT -- hence it's alternate name of ATA: AT Attachment.
Contemporaneous SCSI was generally higher throughput than IDE, but was more expensive.
Also, it still exists and is in modern use in the form of SASI.
I never thought I'd hear the words "1024 by 768" or "800 by 600" ever again. A trip down memory lane.
My elementary and middle school had these, although my middle school got torn down and rebuilt the next year after I graduated from there, so they got rid of all those iMac's pretty old by then.and More Retro Stuff!
2:12 ehm, nope! After the G3 we got G4s and G5s before the switch to intel, the G5 CPUs were the reason for moving to x86, they ran too hot and despite being very fast, this meant that Apple was never able to get them into a PowerBook.
"...The last generation of PowerPC macs..."
PowerMac G4 and G5, iBook G4, iMac G4, and Mac Mini G4: "Am i a joke to you?"
Poor iMac G5 never gets any love.
theqrokz he said last generation of powerpc macs that’s not x86
iMac G5: “Am I a joke to you?”
@@t6amygdala PPC and x86 are mutually exclusive. The G4 and G5 systems were still very much PowerPC, complete with being bi-endian and using OpenFirmware.
I'd kinda like these kinds of videos to end with the machine working again. It's more amazing to see them run after you know how different they are to their modern equivalent!
I still own a 333 mhz Lime green iMac. I saved it for my daughter. She played kiddy games on Mac OS 9 and out grew it but now it's under her bed for when she gets older. The PowerPC CPUs where actually quite competitive, especially the G3. Compared with what came after it was also very power efficient. The later g4 and g5 CPUs where not much more faster while creating a lot more heat and of course using a lot more power. It's a bit like the days of the PIII compared to the early P4. All single core CPUs. I know, nuts.. right?!
I love this retro tech shit. A lot of their audience are into their mid 20's by now and live for this retro tech stuff.
Relax Linus. Enjoy your new beard and don't be grumpy.
I saw these in my middle school back in '08. My first ever experience with a Mac computer. So much nostalgia. I did my schoolwork on one of these in my classroom
Try mid-40's
Nah, I was around these and I’m in my late twenties.
@@applesheep7217 I was saying that I am in my mid-40's and still watch LTT
Drinking game: Every time Alex slaps the top of the computer take a shot
It's a Friday so I'll allow it, cheers 🍻
You'll have liver damage by the end of it.
This a really good baby of a machine. **SLAP the top**
Now that you mention it, the iMac G3 was an extremely slappable computer, speaking from experience. I slapped mine all the time, no joke. Can anyone else confirm?
@@rockyavalon3712 Hippity hoppity you will now get slappity.
Definitely do more retro tech. Unless you've lived through it, it's impossible to truly appreciate where we are without knowing what we tech we came from. When I was in kindergarten we had a couple dozen of these at our school and I was in awe at their exterior. I asked my dad about them who was a PC loyalist and all he told me was "Yeah they look cool but they're too expensive." Some things never change.
yes alex+anthony on retro tech would be a 100% watch for me. alex really seems to be in the zone with this love it
I actually wanted to see him struggle putting it back together.
And clean all the dust out. That would have been a satisfying extra 10-15 seconds of content.
This was the first computer to get me into computers. Well technically I did have one hand me down Windows 3.1 computer from my cousins with a bunch of games on it, but I don't remember that as much. Ever since I learned what a GPU was just digging through the help files on this, I was hooked on the field.
I remember being in middle school and wanting one of these so bad. Instead, I got an ugly HP look-alike that had a tower but a close looking monitor; glad I did though, as that got me into my interest. Thanks for the video!
Please do more retro stuff. Especially Apple. I've used a Mac since 1995, got my first own Mac in 1999, a b/w PowerMacintosh G3. Such a great machine. It looked awesome!
3:56 "Garden Grove" -Sublime.
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This might have been my computer
😅
What a song tho. Dayumm
Jeff Moore I knew that was garden grove just from hearing it for half a second! Haha
Damn, I thought it was "the little things give you away"
But did he ever get his Sublime CD back?
please more retro tech!! its always fun messing around with old hardware. and with how well known ltt is y'all could probably get your hands on some really obscure retro tech
Whenever someone from my generation says “the G3 was my first computer.” I think oh, you had a stable childhood with loving parents.
"..have only 2 USB ports"
That is ridiculous in today's standard. Oh,wait..
There were very few computers with more than 2 USB ports back in the year 2000, including PC motherboards.
Also at the time USB was too slow for anything other than mouse and keyboard. Plus the iMac keyboard had a built-in hub so you effectively had four ports total, out of the box.
Well Apple also had Firewire 400 which at the time was faster than the USB of the time
@@ccricers itw as also faster than usb 2.0.
@Galaxy TS2 We did, it just wasn't very funny.
10:10 The dangerous part is under that circular piece of rubber at the top of the tube. You can make it safe by connecting a screwdriver to ground and sticking it under the cover to touch the contact.
PowerPC was used for many years after the G3. Even the first Mac Mini had PowerPC in 2005. I'd like to see more retro stuff. The G4 was a masterpiece in design as well.
"Ah, how unfortunate, it runs Mac OS X, which runs like hot garbage on this thing."
*Shows program trying to boot from Classic Environment*
Me: Raging hard at the fact that the system can dual boot into OS 9 with a couple mouse clicks and has OS 9 installed.
Seriously, this video was cringe. I won't even go into the ten billion other inaccuracies everyone else already pointed out.
One retro dissection would be fun to see are the first and second generation of GPUs or "3D accelerators" as they were called back in the day.
Do you remember those 4mb accelerators that you could daisy chain from you're actual video card?
@@MikeTheMic can't say I remember seeing those. There were so many weird things appearing during that time.
It's hard to appreciate nowadays during the USB times but I remember a friend had a specific card that enabled four joysticks to be put unto a computer for some epic hotseat gameplay :D
@@ristopaasivirta9770 I remember it was a 4 mb graphic accelerator that plugged in to a spare pci slot next to the the regular agp graphics cards. It was in the tnt2 Riva days. Then there was a cable (can't remember if it was even vga or may have been earlier) that went from the main graphics card to the 3d accelerator and you output from that to your display. It effectively gave 3d accelerating to any video card. Lol
@@MikeTheMic ah yes that was how most of the early 3D accelerators worked. I used to have a Diamond Monster and it didn't have any 2D capabilities so yes you took a vga cable from your 2D card to the 3D card and then to the monitor.
Second generation saw the dawn of "all-in-one" cards that could operate on their own.
There were couple early 2D+3D cards like Voodoo rush, but majority of them were 3D only.
@@ristopaasivirta9770 I bet Linus doesn't even have a working agb motherboard these says. I remember they did a old tech segment once and it took them 3 months to source it. I think they had to have a viewer send one in. Lol.
"Tell Linus you want more retro stuff."
*The 8-bit Guy has left the chat
imagine linus hiring him as the retro expert
@@yourick1953 Or Clint from LGR
@@itsaBoomer yeah thing is though i dont think the majority of viewers wont subscribe to ltt channels for retro content and just subscribe to the retro based channels for that
I still have an iMac G3 400. the 400 was the firewire ports the extra USB ports are in the keyboard. That was a USB hub, it added two extra USB ports. It also had a slot for and Airport card. The battery is called a PRAM and that was Apple's version of CMOS.
Would enjoy a retro tech dive series. I only started following the PC from 2016,so anything before that is in the realm of curiosity for me
We want more of this. Long time It's My Natural Colour, This Does Not Compute, LGR, Computer Clan, VWestLife, etc etc, follower, retro stuff is amazing.
When I was a kid I worked at Wild Rivers waterpark for a year, saved all my money and bought a bue and grey original imac. Then they immediately released the colors ones, so I fucking returned that shit and got a red one. The next summer I saved all my money again and purchased cable internet for the house, for a year.
ShortCircuit seems like the perfect place for these retro tech dives there is a lot of neat things that were amazing then that we totally take for granted now.
i love these things, i got 3 of them from garage sales a little while ago and combined them into one working unit, sadly it caught fire while compiling gentoo. RIP
“This is the last Generation of PowerPC Macs” WOT... PowerPC was kept until 2006. Up to the iMac G5.
This is where you notice the majority of LMG presenters is too young for retro computers.
Pendleton 115 back in the day i got one of those G5's in 2006, and i really worked hard on getting the money to buy that machine, then intel's G5 appeared and man, it sucked because apple almost instantly dropped support for power pc, it never felt like a transition, it felt more like a fucking waste of money
CheapBastard1988 They’re all older than me afaik, and I used one of these G3s for almost a decade when I kid, so maybe it’s just that they just don’t know what they should...
PaVlog . They did support it for years... It even got an OS update. So what are you talking about.
Robert T The G5 machines only got one or two OS updates, and the platform was basically dead 2 years after the product first released. Intel completely squashed the G5 architecture.
I remember this computer being in literally every single doctor's office.
le big sad my old elementary school *still* has these lying around in the corner of computer labs.
BluMac. My school still used them until 2013
dude I LOVE this! I used to have one of these as a kid and I always wanted to take it apart
Man the nostalgia is real. One of my college friends had one of these.
Only included cd drive when the floppy was still popular... apple: removing useful features since 1990.
This computer was released in 1998
I would personally love to see more retro stuff on ltt
Yes, and nevermind who present it, as long as it is with such passion and nostalgia!
I remember using this in elementary school before they switched to emacs. Most of them there would have floppy disk drives hooked up via usb. Oh the nostalgia
Few corrections here: The VGA port only outputs a mirrored connection so for example you could display the iMacs display also on a video projector. Second, the hard drive and Optical drive interface within all iMac models is an ATA interface, not SCSI. Third this is like the third gen iMac with slot loading optical drive. The first and second gen (Rev. A & B) both have a spring loaded tray similar to that used on laptops of the day that requires to user push a button activating a spring that partially ejects the drive tray then you have to fully pull out the tray by hand to place a disc in it and to manually close it. The G3 PPC CPU’s used in the iMac G3 were competitive with x86 CPU’s of the era. That CPU is over 20 years old now so unfair to compare it to modern multi-core CPU. It was the PPC G5 they ran way to hot not the G3 or G4, just like the Pentium IV ran too hot too leading to the Core Duo and Core II Duo processors which ran much cooler. The difference was that IBM who made the PPC G5 never solved heat issue in time thus no laptop ever got a G5 CPU due to heat issues and so Apple went x86 because intel did manage to solve their heat issue (by the luck of their Israeli devision inventing the duel-core proccess).
... inventing the core 2 processors which was based on the pentium 3 class cpu architecture.
Honestly, if you can, do a sleeper. Maybe you can still use the old crt and an intel Nuc
Just do a sleeper where the screen is actually a case window.
I'm definitely down with making retro tech a semi-regular thing, at least on this channel.
Oh! A video about my first computer!
I still have that thing standing around somewhere...
This was my first ever PC and the one I grew up on. I played Descent II, 8th Wonder of the World and a bunch of kids games on it. Unbelievably slow yet still incredible. Seeing the internet or disks slip in and out was magic.
From this machies introduction there was about 6 years and two subsequent PowerPC iMacs released before apple switched to x86. This was replaced in 2002 by the PowerPC iMac G4 that looked like a lamp.
The CRT is also a huge high voltage capacitor holding anywhere from 1K volts to 20K volts depending on the size of the CRT.
ABSOLUTELY want more retro stuff. Even though i watch most of the popular retro channels already.
Great video. Brings a tear to my eye... It's been so long since I've seen one of these