In automotive we keep those inside a metal enclosure. They last longer not exposed to indoor light except when someone needs to use one. When a chip is checked out, it goes into light proof bag its supposed to be stored when not in use.
@@thecommenter578 Have to make sure the power output is also calibrated. And there's a special hat that makes sure your head/eye level is at optimal viewing angle from the correct depth otherwise the curvature of your eyeball will distort the colors. Have to make sure your air filter is calibrated also other wise the dust/pollution could distort the color like in Mexico everything is orange. Depending on the envorinment, you have to wear these calibrated glasses that mimics the hidden UV rays so that it cancels out certain wavelengths. Trust me, i r scientist
As a colorblind citizen, this feels like watching the olympics while being paralized. Edit, if anyone ever comes across this: 1. I have deuteranomaly, so mostly greens and reds, but also differentiating other colors is hard for me. But i still see in color. 2. It was just a joke stop dissecting the possibilities of viewing the olympics while in a wheelchair please thanks 3. I am so happy to see people thinking about this issue more critically now, and hearing so many other people say they just dont "think in colors". This is my main thing with color blindness: Differentiating is either exhausting or impossible. Our brains are accustomed to ignoring colors, so having information like graphs solely colorcoded is annoying at best, and at worst downright discriminating (looking at you, train maps). I actually thank the LTT team for having their graphs colorcoded in a way that the colors also contrast in brightness and are far removed from each other in the rainbow, and use different shapes when they run out of three or four bold colors. Anyways my point is thank you for sharing your stories and i hope a few people became more aware of this issue through this thread.
I'm also colorblind and, as a result, I typically ignore most color based information. That said, I really enjoyed how excited Sarah seemed about the product. I wouldn't mind having someone like that tell me about what colors she sees. Might make me sad that I can't see it the same way but hearing about it with such exuberance would warm my heart. Also, I couldn't tell what color those two chips were but they were definitely different.
The hilarious part to me is 30+ years ago and as part of our student package for a Graphic Arts and Design course at Seneca College. The Pantone flip book colour swatch thingy back then costed us $28 for Student/Education versions. My book which I still have is a thin 1" wide by 1 1/4" tall by 7" long seemed ridiculous to be charging $28 for such a tiny thing 30+ years ago. That same format is no longer available but the current version which is a bit wider is now $200+ to $400+ for the current versions. 😶😶
@@justanotherdave. what would be the point of mentioning out of no where that the government is responsible for a small fraction of a massive price hike?
My family has been in the paper printing industry for about a century. I could not tell you to what lengths we go to make sure that our prints are color accurate. We have separate presses to do proofs on to make sure that the color and paper combos looks perfect (we did that more when we had the 40inch offset press as that was harder to do proofs on. The industrial inkjet we know use can spit a proof out in a couple minutes with little waste) we have tables that have pure (edit: exceptionally untinted, neither warm or cool) white light coming from overhead so that intermediate pages can be checked, we have a glass light table to check bleed and such, we have a device which measures the number of dots of each color present in a unit area. Color accuracy ain’t no joke. Edit: I should have clarified that I do not own or work for the company in a technical capacity. I only run some of the post press machines on occasion. My dad, grandpa, and great-grandparents put a lot of work into the company and I am proud of what they have accomplished, although I believe this came across as attributing it to myself, my apologies.
I used to work for a company that adjusted the inks in printing presses on the fly. It used a highly accurate line scanner to read color reference blocks on the product and and calculated the necessary adjustments. This eliminated waste and the need for proofs. It was pretty fascinating.
"Pure white light"? What's the wavelength? If it's pure, it surely has a specific wavelength right? That would be dumb to call something pure if you don't have a specific unambiguous physical property to characterize it. Or maybe it would just be to show off in front of people who know nothing.
Yup, I used to work as a pre-print technician for a labelling company, and part of the job was making sure that our prints matched the requested brand colors. There's indeed a lot that goes into that including some colors being harder to reproduce consistenly than others. We'd only have specific ink for a couple of spot colors for larger customers, rest I'd have to match their pantones with mixing different CMYK values both in the image/vector file itself and printer settings. Lot's of trial and error, and me running outside to compare prints with samples under the sun, as our office lighting wasn't really neutral at the time.
@@dirtcreature3d "average" can't be pure. If this is what he meant then he "shouldn't" say it. I have googled "pure white light" just in case I was missing something. All I found was new age / personal development stuff, and trademarked stuff. I'm not sure if he is trying to bullshit people or if he got bullshitted by a salesman at some point, but he surely needs to know if is a professional.
As a designer it makes my heart warm to see the design team being treated to these pantone chips, its hard to explain to someone who doesn't design why these are so important
OK but shouldn't they come with hardware and software that can tell you which exact color a surface is on the pantone chip thing? For that much money I would expect nothing less than that. Seriously. Cost of those 3 towers would be less than 1000 usd everything taken into calculation...
I kind of want to see a series where you give a particularly knowledgeable employee a budget of 5-10K and ask them to acquire/use it in a manner similar to this. I'm just imagining Taren and Ed getting some crazy expensive rigs for various projects.
Prtty sure that is what they brought Gary who is running Labs in for. He will be the one to go ok we need these things to make this easier and more afforable long term. If the interview they did with him during WAN Show was any indication on his role going forward.
I have a friend that has that in his work, he actually said to me that if Pantone had made the slots in a 7% degree angle chips won't fall, that in his workplace they kinda recreated the base using a 3D printer with the 7% incline, chips drop into the slot instead of slide in.
that might be a lot harder to manufacture in a moulding process. still for $20 a pop in the chips they could include a magnet and a NFC tag. magnet to retain it or attach the chip to things, NFC to fire up an app and tell you where it goes)
That'd be roughly Pantone 481, RAL and Pantone are different color standards. I used to work in plastic product design/manufacture where everything was done in RAL codes.
@@prgnify some people use those old old apple monitors due to colour reproduction. You good sometimes they are better and the monitor colour difference is one of the reasons why we have the cards.
@@chadhowell1328 See this a lot in automotive parts. Something is advertised as "adonized red" and you get a pink. Then you return and complain only to get a replacement, that is yet Another shade of pink.
It can be really vital to those in production. And coordinating production across department and external stakeholders. An amazing use is in a way that companies can use the colours to ensure fraud protection. E.g. 3M have a very specific red colour. And they know what that red should be on various material types. So if they suspect fraud, that would be the first area to test is the 3M red. Also a specific colour shade/tone is also for brand consistency (See Coca-Cola).
2 suggestions to make your life easier. Put labels on the wheels that indicate its number so you no longer have to reference the sheet of paper. Second have someone on the team convert the PDFs into a Database where you can just type in the color number and it will tell you the wheel and number (I am sure someone on the LTT team can create one).
If they're searchable pdfs it wouldnt be awful to just control F in the documents but I agree a databse would be more efficient and likely the way to go in the long run.
If you want to get more cheeky, they could scan the entire thing, make 3D animation and when you type the number you want, it shows you the colour, the code and the exact position on the spinner. What would be the most helpful is to convert the weird code into a standard HTML colour codes, so when you are working in graphical software, you will know which colour you are using, or easily select that colour, even if your display colour seems different. A bit more work, but it pays off in the long run by a lot. Downtime is money sink.
They definitely need to be able to email you those pdf without a cd... and they should make that tray a little more secure because that is crazy for $10K
@@Silenieux how abt a "insert sd card" mechanic where u push it for it to come out vice versa. u really dont wanna loose a card for this thing is 10k grand. def should be more secured
I think its more "buy 1,700 color calibrated plastic samples at $20.05 a pop and get a discount on the combined order, and a free shit quality sorting tray"
@@Silenieux A simple slope no more than 3 degrees on the lower rail and perhaps a tiny notch because the cards itself is stacked anyway instead of friction fit would easily solve the said issue.
4:44 There's a term for that. It's called metamerism. Having colors look the same\different under certain light\angle is exactly the point. (I do some non-color-related work for Pantone but I still have to know a bit about color science.)
I do kitchen cabinets so I'm really happy to know there's a word to use the next time someone is upset that their painted angled crown moulding doesn't look like it matches.
@@dawkosvk my mind is blown every day when I see purple and knowing that "purple" doesn't exist, humans simply can't see a bandwidth and the brain goes $@#% it here's some red and here is some blue, pretend it's a thing!
I found the violet pink thing more interesting, since I recently learned that people with brown eyes have more cells in front of their retina that filter out blue light and since I know that i notices that most of this violet vs pink or green vs blue borderline discussion are held between different eye colors.
I can understand why spending $10k on colour accurate reference chips would save time (therefore money) and money. I am appalled at the indexing being that slow and clunky. There are so many ways that could be done to speed up finding the correct slot for the correct chip. Secondly, the quality control for the tolerences for the stand (with some chips being really hard to pull out and others just accidentally falling out) mind bogglingly crap, especially for $10k. I'm wondering whether that stand is actually intended for use, or if it is intended to be a "In case you have nothing else but otherwise use your own UV-blocking storage system.
It could be one of those things where it was done that way decades or even centuries ago and it made sense then, everyone coming up through the industry learnt to use it that way and so no one changes it even though a better system could be created. Like how we're all still stuck with QWERTY keyboards even though we no longer have to worry about the arms on our typewriters clashing.
Yeah, the case was probably the first design ever, and they just kept it. No need to improve/refine it, as users probably buy a new one every 5 years, and one comes with each order. Otherwise, they could make their own shelves, and just print off labels with the numbers on them (Or even 1-10, 11-20, etc).
@@lurac5710 yes, QWERTY is better than an alphabetical keyboard which nobody has ever thought was a good idea. It's far worse than the actual competing keyboard layouts like dvorak and colemak
As much as I love the "Tech People" Reviews, seeing someone as bubbly and just excited about something as Sarah is about these is refreshing and a nice break from the norm.
I've been in the screen printing/graphics industry for 17 years. Pantone PQ is for home and interior colors and doesn't always match the solid coated system. You would have been better off just using the books. It's also VERY important that you compare colors under the proper light. 5000 K daylight is the North American standard. You either need to get a D50 light box or find the proper lights for the office. In the back of the Pantone book there is a cool lighting indicator that will tell you if your lighting is correct.
It's been a while since I watched this - didn't they say that they used the fandeck(s) and struggled to get the desired match? Granted this whole set is overkill, but ordering a range of individual chips in their desired color range would have been cheaper and just as good for this one project. D50 is the standard in some industries. In others it's D65. They do certainly need to pick a standard and view samples and chips in that condition to make a better educated decision.
For art school, I was forced to buy a series of swatches similar to the paper versions is these. They cost hundreds is dollars. My first color theory instructor has us cut up dozens of them like a deranged collage within the first 3 weeks. To say I was upset was an understatement.
I would have simply refused. Fail me on that project all you want, professor, I'm not cutting up literal HUNDREDS of dollars worth of product just cos you said so. Art school is expensive enough as it is!
@@DavidStruveDesigns Am I missing something here? Generally projects are integral to your grade, so failing them is like failing your classes.... Of course, it's possible to fail one project and still pass, but why take that risk?
@@saintofsinners Well it would trigger a bit of a healthy discussion with the professor, lets be real you'd not be the only one who would feel apprehensive about using calibrated color swatches as art supplies.
@@EraYaN And after 2 min this discussion would end with absolutely no productive outcome. The kind of prof that does that very likely sees themself as some kind of demi-god that cannot be bothered with such things as caring about how much this 45 min lesson will costs his their students.
Years ago I worked for a company that was Pantone's largest dealer of textile colors standards for the western United States. A couple of things to consider is the color you see is only as accurate as the light you are looking at it under. Anyone working with color on this scale really ought to have a light box. Don't know if it's due to cones or rods but women can see subtler degrees of color than men. I highly recommend that you keep any color standard shaded when not in use. Also, C's at the end generally denote what it looks like on a coated material as opposed to matte.
You might find it interesting to know that, if a woman can see more colours than the average guy, it generally means that she is probably expressing a form of colour blindness. Due to the genetics of how colour blindness works in particular, a woman's eyes would tend to express the colour blind gene and the normal colour gene at the same time. Giving the woman in question four primary colours they can see. Instead of just three. There's actually a fairly good chance that a woman with extremely good colour perception to actually have colourblind children.
ahhh yes... "nimrods and coneheads", how we all see the world is slightly different, but there's a great deal of stupidity out there, nearly an infinite colour ramp of it.
@@sivadfa Tetrachromats like you describe are extremely rare, and actually experience significantly different colour perception than a regular trichromat does. Colour sense is actually extremely culture-specific, and the differences in how men and women describe colour is very much due to upbringing, and how colours are learned and labelled during childhood. Some non-western indigenous cultures have even been documented as having wildly different criteria for distinguishing tones to westerners, and can distinguish things that we can't and vice versa.
I went to school for graphic design and printing and one of the first things I learned working in pre-press is the necessity of pantone books for understanding color and matching color for customer jobs as well as the insane cost of them. Thankfully coated and uncoated substrate pantone books are a lot less expensive than this and you really only buy them every 3 years or so but still, like $500-600 every time for new books (both color bridge and formula guide) is a fair chunk of cash. And usually you're buying like 3 or 4 sets because many people need them depending on the company size.
If U want 2 match colors, Pantone is not the way 2 do it, but 2 send (or receive) a physical sample the 'cu$tomer' wants 2 match so U know exactly what they want, not a 'guessing game' based on 'callibrations' = fux sake. U clowns R #Vaxxer level insane =))
@@ryanhamstra49 Tbh it was done well though. They made me interested in learning about the topic and I'm glad I did because it's something I didn't know before.
@@tylerwaltz3528 oh totally! I can’t tell you how many videos I’ve watched for stuff I’ll never afford or want to buy, but they make it fun to watch so I do
Those comparative chips (A and B) were definitely different when they hit the light in a certain way, which is the entire reason you get them. Because they will look different in certain circumstances and not others, but that one time will make a difference.
But what I am wondering: The material of the part you are making won't be the same as the Panton chip. And the surface finish also won't be the same. So even if you perfectly match your product to the chip, will it not still look different in different lights?
@@Jehty_ It's like mastering audio on your high fidelity headphones and then having someone play it on their airpods. There's always gonna be a difference but it shouldn't be significant.
This way the company can't do their best to match the color you are looking for. These look like they are for plastic and cloth items. If it's for paint it's way easier to color match paint finish.
@@Jehty_ yes, but consider this: if you didn't know what the exact color looked like, there would be 2 possible errors that could've been made. By you, and the manufacturer. This guarantees you don't make a mistake and it's left for the manufacturer to deliver exactly what you want. Otherwise it's just a guessing game. "Did I choose the correct color, or did the manufacturer mess it up?"
Sarah! This video brings me great joy. My favourite pantone colours are 13-4202 TCX, and 15-5711 TPX. Maybe not to be used together, but I love soft, cool colours that inspire serenity.
See..... along with all of the usual LTT videos, I'd LOVE to see more videos from the creator's warehouse like this! I'm a tech nerd, but I'm also a graphic designer / artist so this was informative and fun!
@@robinsuj Pantone 803 C ... or perhaps even Pantone 12-0643 tcx "Blazing Yellow".. but it tends to lean more towards red than the 803C. Even Pantone Process Yellow C is nice. I had a 'VW Beetle color concept' painted with what VW called "Double Yellow" (paint code LD1D) and I loved that color. It was on the leather... the wheels.. the paint... and I want to get one of these amazing yellows painted on part of my black van so it's more bee-themed =)
@@arunashamal didn't even know Pantone was a brand before this video, it's so synonymous with standardized colors that i thought it was just the actual term for it.
I have soul bonded with the editor that put the question marks on the wheels to make them confused. I laughed alone in a dark room for too long at that, as I imagine they did when they created that masterpiece.
Sometimes that is what you want. You want people who are experts in their field no matter what field it is even if it is just about colors. I think she has a point though spend big money now and save money, frustration, and time later.
I can't believe how natural Sarah became on shooting videos. From how shy and nervous she was in the secret shopper videos to absolutely glowing in the latest videos is just amazing! Especially when it's a design topic or something that she's passionate about :)
I actually work in color matching for silicone projects. And we only have the flip books, which are terrible! Something like this would be incredibly helpful for me but the company is too cheap to spend the cash for it.
Literally ALL of the cost of this goes into verifying the accuracy of those chips. It seems insane, but I'm not sure if everyone here understands the complexity and challenge of making even 2 objects the exact same color, much less the hundreds of thousands of these that exist in design studios around the world. The whole point of these is to enable companies to communicate EXACT information about color, which is super subjective. Just think of all the disclaimers on websites about "colors on screen may vary slightly from the actual product"
What you're basically seeing are consumer reactions to professional/industrial tools. If you're in the target market for these chips, the $10K investment pays itself off in no time at all.
Well, producing the same plastic colour isn't that difficult. The "recipe" consists of the same amount of dye and raw materials which remains unchanged. As long as the manufacturer makes sure their raw materials and dye are up to standard, the plastic produced with the recipe will be the same colour.
Where I work there's a guy who matches everything to less than 1 delta E for slightly above minimum wage because the computer tells him exactly how much pigment and what color to add. These things aren't worth nearly what they're charging people.
I really don't get this. Doesn't evey colour have a unique id ? Like an hexadecimal number or an RGB one ? Why not use those ? I know those "only" cover about 16 millions of colours out there, but is there any need for more colours ? I'm just asking, because I don't see why I should already know this
@@Isaiaswolf66 Spending $10K once on this product is way better than spending a similar amount multiple times on the samples as he said in the video. He saved a few bucks there. For all I think, that expression when Sara mentions the price every time could be fake
This is fascinating to me as I didn’t even know this existed before now. As an outside observer I’m impressed and can see why the product is so expensive. This is the kind of product that needs to be made to an exacting specification or it’s literally useless. Their buyer needs to be able to trust that each of those chips is the precise color they are expecting it to be. Even just the reference booklets. Ensuring that each of the hundreds of colors in the booklets is printed to the *exact* color specified adds serious cost. But dang those chips, manufacturing that many different colors of plastic in such a way that they can be used as a definitive reference for a color. It’s actually pretty crazy. That bit with the green chips was actually the perfect example. If you were actually trying to manufacture a product in the color of green B, you’d be pretty upset and would waste money if it came out on the color of green A. Even though they are similar, they are clearly different enough that you’d be able to tell the color of your product was off. This is of course assuming you care a lot about quality and brand image. But that’s who this was made for. The fitment issues are a bummer though.
Yes pretty much everything you buy to use as a precise reference will be very expensive; Gauge blocks come to mind for use in machining or just reference surfaces that are precision ground to within 1 µm
she seems a lot more excited when the topic is directly in her wheel-house tho. Which makes sense really, every time they get her to do tech related stuff she is not *really* into it.. but give her Pantone codes and she's all sparkling eyes and bubbly.
As an engineer I don’t need these. But despite working on control systems we have a huge, meticulous set of gauge blocks. Like the colour chips they’re expensive but getting things right each time is fucking tremendous. Cash well spent/invested.
I used to do metal finishing on prosthetic implants and the company I worked for invested a lot of money in precision instruments like gauges and calipers. People were just so careless about using them that they had to be replaced often. I also went to school for graphic design so I can totally understand her excitement and then need for color swatches. There is no greater disappointment than perfecting a design on screen only to have it look like total shit on print.
As someone who bought paint and painted for 15 years, these are only for people who give a shit about the most minute change in colour. The lonely stay-at-home mom-types whose lives have no meaning so they try to control every tiny thing in order to feel like they're important. And people who want to pretend they have some special secret knowledge nobody else has. If you can't tell whether or not the colour matches without putting it next to something else then who the fuck cares And it doesn't make any difference in the end anyways considering the fact that everyone sees colours differently so it might be perfect to one person but not the next... so what's the point?
I get why its so expensive, the customer base isnt huge, quality control for the colors is extremely important, and you have 1700 distinct parts that you need to manufacture seperately.
@@anonymouscommentator quality control for the individual colors, not the actual holder. Pantone swatches are notorious for being expensive to print with especially on smaller scales.
@@anonymouscommentator Getting plastic the perfect color consitently is pretty expensive. And for a product that is used as a reference, getting it right is very important. Just look at Lego. Depending on the batch the colors can vary a lot. But I agree that for 10 Grand having to use ancient indexing-methods and the card-holder itself is a joke tho.
She literally explained that they probably splashed enough on samples and those go for hundreds to thousands of dollars each. the value to get it right at the first try is easily getting the costs back from those things. Of course it is not affordable for smaller start ups. But LTT should be quiet large enough by now to consider themselves a medium or even large firm (remember, he is paying tens of thousands of dollars yearly just for his cameras and editing software). So they can afford it easy, even if Linus tends to question the purchases his team is making :D
Here is an idea motorize those wheels, use addressable RGB strip to guide you to the exact one. use a raspberry pi to automatically pick the color from index or colors. make transparent case with proper lighting . or even better.. make new wheels for easier picking.
someone was talking about protecting them from indoor light so it could be all enclosed with an opening and would rotate so the colour you want is exposed
Pantone 306 U is the closest (95% accurate) to my favorite color: Cherenkov blue (#22BBFF; RGB: 34, 187, 255). Set your waterblock and reservoir LEDs to that and your rig suddenly takes on a very nuclear reactor look to it! 😁
Didn't imagine I'd find someone referencing Cherenkov radiation in an unscripted review of a design product on second tier RUclips channel comment section.
@@donloder1 Yes, it's the blue light from when radiation goes faster than the speed of light. Seen in nuclear reactors. For everyone going WTF, speed of light through a medium is slower than speed of light in a vacuum.
As a Lighting Designer, I get it, but damn, when I get free swatch books at trade shows from the manufacturers, it's hard to justify that amount of cash!
Sarah gave her justification even though she has reference books/pamphlets already: working with plastics was a whole different beast and making it harder to get the color they were looking for. So she pushed for getting the plastic chips so you can see the colors on plastic, as Linus said every time they need to delay and get new samples costs them more money.
It's pretty easy to justify when you realize how much money AND time they're saving with this purchase. Productivity goes up while costs go down, pretty sensible purchase.
My favourite pantone colours are 13-3820 Lavender Fog, 16-3812 Heirloom Lilac, 17-3834 Dahlia Purple and 14-3911 Purple Heather thank u for listening 🥰
@NightRaven 630 Fun fact, Prince‘s estate had a custom colour standard created by Pantone based on his purple yamaha piano! It‘s called "Love Symbol #2" and doesn‘t have a code bc it‘s not available to the public
Pantone system is a must for every Designer. Its a lot harder to call your New York clients and guess what color they use on the logo "the logo has a lime greenish color" which is not accurate at all because you would have everyones version of lime green. With Pantone all you have to say is "our logo uses Pantone 802(n) Then no one get blamed (learn from your mistakes) for having incorrect color on on someones logo.
Sarah is an AWESOME presenter!!! She's got such a lively, fun, bubbly, happy personality! I love watching her videos cuz she just brings so much joy to them. Love it!!!
Loved her on the secret shopper series! Also really liked seeing her ginormous kitty mess with Linus during her intel extreme tech upgrade, I'm glad she went with the hardware instead 0f the $4,500 starbucks gift card. I hope someone teaches her the wonder of making her own coffee at home with actual descent coffee beans. I will never understand people that spend a lunch meals worth of money on daily, shitty, overpriced coffee. I mean I get going out for it every once in a while but people literally spend thousands of dollars on brew that is barely mediocre.
There are some major, major improvements that Pantone could make with this chip collection storage system given how much they charge for their products.
@@luelou8464 Agreed. Not sure why everyone is malding over the price like it's sky high. Just imagine if you use 5 mins to readjust/reset the injection mold for 1,755 times and not counting QC. That's an awful load of time to make this and pretty it doesn't just take 5 mins for each color and these stuff don't move at high volumes since not every designer will buy these.
6:30 "Let us know your favorite Pantone code!" I am too picky to have a single one, because you never color anything in a void. But I do have a favorite _pair_ of Pantone colors. PANTONE Blue 0821 C (a soft pastel cyan) with PANTONE 2716 C (a soft pastel lavender). The latter is actually, oddly enough, similar to Sarah's shirt in this video. Anyway, that soft lavender paired with a similarly soft cyan. They complement each other really well for a striking (but not garrish) design highlight.
Blue/purple is such a rock solid color combo, regardless of the shade or hue you pick. Whether it’s cyan/lavender, deep blues and purples, light, or dark, it’s ssoooo good.
That definitely seems like something you'd need to keep in a locked cabinet to prevent Janet in HR from borrowing (without asking) Pantone F69420 when she's thinking of re-painting her pantry. Where it'll get chipped up in her bag on the ride home, exposed to UV rays as it sits by the kitchen window for a week or so, and eventually be taken to Home Depot where it'll be forgotten on a shelf at the store.
@@hadeez7 Actually an edit to that statement would be *pre op Lana Rhoades since she got a bunch of work done and doesn't look the same anymore at all but old Lana for sures.
Being a graphic designer and having worked and owning a print shop, I understand the importance of Pantone matching. We had multiple books. We where always calibrating the printer and monitors. Working with companies like Coke, Tesla and Anheuser-Busch; Color matching is a Must! I also get her excitement form finding and matching colors as well. Great Video!
This is why I left that end of advertising a long time ago. I'm just not that anal retentive and at that time is was hard to find and hire available Europeans. Yes! I said it. LOL XD
@@risharehraje793 colours in the real world that are printed or dyed ofr clothing etc. are completely diffferent to what you see on a monitor using RGB. Not only that but a lot of monitors are different even after calibration they can still have different colours. Hex codes should in theory work correctly but then you have the issue of the printer not printing it the exact same each and every time which is a common issue. Similar to dyes, inks and other mediums that need to be mixed. Hope this helps explain things at least a little.
I have been working in the merch printing (games, books...) industry for 10 years now. This is so important. It saves so much time and money. Yes, it is a lot of money beforehand, but it is well worth it.
Watching u guys evolve really makes me warm inside.. ... from the humble beginning up to now where u guys really care up to the details of colour. Keep it up guys.... hope LTT can be strong enuf for employees to be loyal tru life time. Salute!
Cant believe I've never had contact with or even thought about this part of the industry... this is weirdly amazing and now I want to know the exact code of favorite colors too!
One of my parents is a professional graphic designer & typesetter, been seeing those paper color swatches for years and never really knew what they were but I've been around these sort of things so long that this whole video made so much sense. My mom also has color codes memorized, can nail any font on sight, and can nail down a pretty narrow range of color swatches she sees on-screen or on paper. Loved the detailed explanations throughout the video, Sarah is a natural on-camera! The exchanges where she needles Linus about the pricepoint was high comedy.
You describe your mom like she's gone to MI6 or something. Not diss you out, as a Graphic Designer(ish) myself, she's like one boss that can read your mind to engaging some tomfoolery. Big dubs for your parents bro, They take the W.
I worked web design for a while and got pretty good at picking out the hexadecimal codes for colors, after staring at them long enough it becomes second nature
I would love to work with typography. It seems so cool… you know for a fricken nerd. Every time I see any variation of Futura I have to suppress the urge to say something, unless I want to annoy my sister or close friends 😂
I love listening to people try and explain why Pantone makes all their products so expensive lol I used to work in a print shop and we had the same Pantone books for 3+ years!
We have one of these at my workplace where we design & manufacture interior furniture for office spaces, courtrooms, etc and I remember somebody telling me that the "big spinny colour thing" is the most expensive singular item in the office besides our plotter. I was flabbergasted. Also my favourite is 295C
I'm really enjoying all the videos sharing some of the behind the scenes info about what goes into designing and making physical products. It's really interesting and shows how much work actually goes into these things.
You'd think for 10000$ Pantone would send a usb drive or a memory card instead of a CD. I'm guessing they're gonna keep doing it until their CD stock runs out (might be an indicator how much of these they sold)
Using a CD is not as bad of an idea as it seems like on the first glance. Flash storage will eventually start "forgetting" what is stored on it and flip random bits (aka. "bit rot"). This usually happens after a really long time so, depending on how long you can use these color chips, it may be not an issue worth considering, but optical media can theoretically hold up longer than a flash drive. Putting the PDF files on a CD may also help work around operating systems deprecating old file systems because the file system on a CD will usually be ISO9660 which is a standard that is unlikely to go away because everyone is still using it (.iso files) where FAT is generally considered deprecated and other file systems have a tendency to not be supported on all platforms. Again, this is - in most cases - a non-issue and only matters if the chips are supposed to hold up for decades.
@@verynice4829 Of course, having a download option is the way to go but there should also be an offline option because the server hosting it will eventually go away. How useful a QR code would be in this case is debatable given that you would probably not want said PDF on your phone, you’d most likely want it on your PC.
I can watch Sarah all day. He happiness is so contagious. I wonder if there’s another standard that can challenge Pantone? This set seems to be not well thought out and the lack of quality for the price is a disappointment. It would be cool if the LTT team designed a better 3D printed version of the holders and came up with a better order method that wouldn’t depend on comparing 3 towers to know where to look for a specific chip.
Probably but idk if it would be worth it, we're talking about resorting over 1700 color chips, the amount of time and effort it'd take to do that would be insane
@@calh109 Eeh, it's all in a very specific order and all of them are indexed on the card, so it could be done relatively simply. I agree on the effort, but I would also say that some (including myself) would find such a task pretty engaging
There are another standards too. Just look up RAL for example. It's widely used with plastics and metal products and we use it too. CMYK is another standard for print.
@@weakamna it seemed to me like they were saying reorder them into their own "improved" order, reordering that many chips would be a massive undertaking and that's what I was talking about
This is exactly why I INSIST on having a CD drive in all of my computers, I do a lot of random industrial work and sometimes the only way you can find things is on a CD. I'm debating getting a tape drive for archival work.
I see all the colours and I couldn't care less if a product is a shade off. Yes, I would be upset if something I bought is a different color than that on the package, because that is a scam, or I buy a set and one of them is different, but I wouldn't care if they give me a product that is not fire red, but instead is apple red. It's good enough. Most people don't care about it.
at 6:50 Linus picks PQ-320C which looks like a "Tiffany blue" which is my favorite color, so I guess that means I'm ready to launch my own empire from the ground up because i'm exactly like Linus
Also how simultaneously he will go absolutely apeshit over the wrong finish (For good reasons obviously). But it is still a hilarious and weird thing to not care about.
I just want to say that sarah is becoming my favorite LTT presenter! She was a little inexperienced (but still knowledgable) in the early videos, but now she is absolutely crushing it! She fits the LTT vibe very well, love to see her in any videos. Keep up the great work! Thanks Linus for leading an awesome crew!
@@lastduet4728 thats cool, but its that excess energy that puts me off, anyway im not saying sarah is bad, entire team is great, i just like linus the most tbh
Pantone 7641U is still my favorite, a bit dark but way better in uncoated than in coated. I bougt a pair of coated and uncoated formula guides for private use for only 80€, MSRP was 200€. Looks like Sarah had an early christmas present. Nice to see these chips in good hands, where they are acknowledged.
I really like this "we're milking this company expense for all it's worth" mentality from LMG. It makes them feel even more grounded than they already are
Depending on how serious their current cash shortage is, it might be for short term business needs as well as it being the right thing to do and interesting content
I think it's mainly "Everything can be interesting" Internet is maybe not the perfect tool to instil in-depth knowledge of a technical subject - but it can smash it out of the park in explaining why anybody might want to buy $10k worth of plastic rectangles.
They are definitely different greens; then again I'm a graphic designer and I learned to care about those things, and I do appreciate the ease that the standardization of color such as Pantone brings, although I do believe that they overprice their products quite a bit (even if they do worth more than they look). Oh, my favorite PANTONE is 2098 C.
I bet network effects give them a lot of market power. Designers want them because it's what the manufacturers use and manufacturers want them because it's what the designers use. Also the nobody ever got fired for buying IBM effect.
Because they could never do something as simple & obvious as printing out the color samples they want & sending them via mail 2 match so their products look the way they want, or 2 cut out some sample from a magazine photo or some other object = no, like 'callibration' & 'digital files' will get U there easier = HAHAHAHA
@@Deathrape2001 Looks like someone did not watch the video or could not comprehend what was said. They already used to do what you just said. but the paint on the printed paper was not working out. they have been using all different methods for over 2 years until they bit the bullet and bought the Pantone wheel because they were losing money just experimenting and doing trial and error. Have you always been this stupid?
In automotive we keep those inside a metal enclosure. They last longer not exposed to indoor light except when someone needs to use one. When a chip is checked out, it goes into light proof bag its supposed to be stored when not in use.
Makes sense shit is expensive lol
@@NwinDii ah, 10k peanuts
I assume you used a calibrated light source to check the colors, what type of light is that?
Well up you go for them to see it
@@thecommenter578 Have to make sure the power output is also calibrated. And there's a special hat that makes sure your head/eye level is at optimal viewing angle from the correct depth otherwise the curvature of your eyeball will distort the colors.
Have to make sure your air filter is calibrated also other wise the dust/pollution could distort the color like in Mexico everything is orange. Depending on the envorinment, you have to wear these calibrated glasses that mimics the hidden UV rays so that it cancels out certain wavelengths.
Trust me, i r scientist
As a colorblind citizen, this feels like watching the olympics while being paralized.
Edit, if anyone ever comes across this:
1. I have deuteranomaly, so mostly greens and reds, but also differentiating other colors is hard for me. But i still see in color.
2. It was just a joke stop dissecting the possibilities of viewing the olympics while in a wheelchair please thanks
3. I am so happy to see people thinking about this issue more critically now, and hearing so many other people say they just dont "think in colors". This is my main thing with color blindness: Differentiating is either exhausting or impossible. Our brains are accustomed to ignoring colors, so having information like graphs solely colorcoded is annoying at best, and at worst downright discriminating (looking at you, train maps). I actually thank the LTT team for having their graphs colorcoded in a way that the colors also contrast in brightness and are far removed from each other in the rainbow, and use different shapes when they run out of three or four bold colors. Anyways my point is thank you for sharing your stories and i hope a few people became more aware of this issue through this thread.
lmfao
On the other hand you're going to be $10,000 richer.
Which colors?
I'm also colorblind and, as a result, I typically ignore most color based information. That said, I really enjoyed how excited Sarah seemed about the product. I wouldn't mind having someone like that tell me about what colors she sees. Might make me sad that I can't see it the same way but hearing about it with such exuberance would warm my heart.
Also, I couldn't tell what color those two chips were but they were definitely different.
Kinda crazy how colorblind people will work in this field and figure out colors solely based on the numbers.
Linus is totally Dad in this one. He understands his kid needs this, but he really thinks the price is stupid.
Of course he thinks the price is stupid, it essentially comes out of his pocket lmao
@@c0r3k1d3 someone didnt understood the metaphor
Oh lord my dad had to buy me a macbook for school and he had this exact reaction!
@@harrymichaels3877 I have 4 daughters. I will have that reaction for the rest of my life.
because most people think the idea of the product is stupid and useless, hence, the production of it is very slow, difficult and limited
The hilarious part to me is 30+ years ago and as part of our student package for a Graphic Arts and Design course at Seneca College. The Pantone flip book colour swatch thingy back then costed us $28 for Student/Education versions. My book which I still have is a thin 1" wide by 1 1/4" tall by 7" long seemed ridiculous to be charging $28 for such a tiny thing 30+ years ago. That same format is no longer available but the current version which is a bit wider is now $200+ to $400+ for the current versions. 😶😶
Also consider over 30+ years the government has been diluting the value of your dollars.
@@why6212 I can't understand the point you're trying to make. Inflation is bad somehow? Like what are you trying to say?
@@akalion213 $28 30 years ago would be worth $58 today, not $200 - $400. I think that’s the point.
@@justanotherdave. what would be the point of mentioning out of no where that the government is responsible for a small fraction of a massive price hike?
@@Milamberinx ask why. Get it?
From building a computer next to a kitchen sink in a rented house to buying 10k worth of colored tabs in a warehouse.
It's been a long road.
Rented garage* and yeah it was a long journey since the ncix days fun to see we grew up with this channel
You put two spaces between "a" and "warehouse"
@@HazardCrossbones Wow how did you see that right away?
@@HazardCrossbones Hurts my eyes too
"...getting from there to here..."
She almost dropped the expensive "hardware" several times...
She's learning.
I was legitimately concerned when she lifted a tower and it opened in the middle
its so awful man. They should be more careful
just remember its how she makes sure the CPU is in the slot as well
Linus is teaching his ways
@@kelrune The 'pick it up and shake it' QA process. Risky but thorough.
My family has been in the paper printing industry for about a century. I could not tell you to what lengths we go to make sure that our prints are color accurate. We have separate presses to do proofs on to make sure that the color and paper combos looks perfect (we did that more when we had the 40inch offset press as that was harder to do proofs on. The industrial inkjet we know use can spit a proof out in a couple minutes with little waste) we have tables that have pure (edit: exceptionally untinted, neither warm or cool) white light coming from overhead so that intermediate pages can be checked, we have a glass light table to check bleed and such, we have a device which measures the number of dots of each color present in a unit area. Color accuracy ain’t no joke.
Edit: I should have clarified that I do not own or work for the company in a technical capacity. I only run some of the post press machines on occasion. My dad, grandpa, and great-grandparents put a lot of work into the company and I am proud of what they have accomplished, although I believe this came across as attributing it to myself, my apologies.
I used to work for a company that adjusted the inks in printing presses on the fly. It used a highly accurate line scanner to read color reference blocks on the product and and calculated the necessary adjustments. This eliminated waste and the need for proofs. It was pretty fascinating.
"Pure white light"?
What's the wavelength? If it's pure, it surely has a specific wavelength right? That would be dumb to call something pure if you don't have a specific unambiguous physical property to characterize it. Or maybe it would just be to show off in front of people who know nothing.
@@ApiolJoe i think he means 5600k, which is the average kelvin range of the sun during peak brightness
Yup, I used to work as a pre-print technician for a labelling company, and part of the job was making sure that our prints matched the requested brand colors. There's indeed a lot that goes into that including some colors being harder to reproduce consistenly than others.
We'd only have specific ink for a couple of spot colors for larger customers, rest I'd have to match their pantones with mixing different CMYK values both in the image/vector file itself and printer settings. Lot's of trial and error, and me running outside to compare prints with samples under the sun, as our office lighting wasn't really neutral at the time.
@@dirtcreature3d "average" can't be pure. If this is what he meant then he "shouldn't" say it.
I have googled "pure white light" just in case I was missing something. All I found was new age / personal development stuff, and trademarked stuff.
I'm not sure if he is trying to bullshit people or if he got bullshitted by a salesman at some point, but he surely needs to know if is a professional.
I'd assume 1655 C is Linus's favorite color but, I'm pretty sure his 2nd favorite color would be 300 C (the color of 3.0 USB ports).
300 C is actually a dope colour though
As a designer it makes my heart warm to see the design team being treated to these pantone chips, its hard to explain to someone who doesn't design why these are so important
@UCjXMz7ZYZ6hKpxuNJ8rsW1w literally watch the video
But 10k for a colour wheel 😯......WHY
OK but shouldn't they come with hardware and software that can tell you which exact color a surface is on the pantone chip thing? For that much money I would expect nothing less than that. Seriously. Cost of those 3 towers would be less than 1000 usd everything taken into calculation...
@@kelvins7879 Yea they charge a lot extra because its not like there's an alternative plus basically every brand uses them
@@tugrulserhat that's not how physics work but okay
I kind of want to see a series where you give a particularly knowledgeable employee a budget of 5-10K and ask them to acquire/use it in a manner similar to this. I'm just imagining Taren and Ed getting some crazy expensive rigs for various projects.
Prtty sure that is what they brought Gary who is running Labs in for. He will be the one to go ok we need these things to make this easier and more afforable long term. If the interview they did with him during WAN Show was any indication on his role going forward.
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To be fair if you give Taren 10 grand it's all getting spend on hotkeys.
Alex buys a drill.
Taren didn't even use his new video card for gaming
I have a friend that has that in his work, he actually said to me that if Pantone had made the slots in a 7% degree angle chips won't fall, that in his workplace they kinda recreated the base using a 3D printer with the 7% incline, chips drop into the slot instead of slide in.
Never send a designer to do an engineer's job.
Yo that’s actually pretty cool. Linus could make a video 3D printing that.
that might be a lot harder to manufacture in a moulding process. still for $20 a pop in the chips they could include a magnet and a NFC tag. magnet to retain it or attach the chip to things, NFC to fire up an app and tell you where it goes)
@@zyeborm the carousels were made with a retracting-core injection mold. adding the incline to the chip slots would have been no different to mold.
Hella cool
Have to say Sara is adorable how excited she gets about the color chips
She loves her job
I’ve never seen her host a video before and it’s like she’s on speed - but in a good way
@@fomora12 just looking at your other comments, you're miserable. you hate people being excited over their interests. no wonder you're alone.
@11:49 Bruh they're not even the same color - the logo on the left is darker than the one on the right. What a f*kn L.
What's adorable to you? The fake overexaggerated giggling for camera?
I am in the dye business for almost 30 years. And I can tell you that it is a right move to get this pantone. It makes my work ALOT easier.
As a design nerd, I can fully agree with Sarah's enthusiasm for Pantones Plastic Chips
My favorite Pantone color is RAL 7044 Silk Gray
That'd be roughly Pantone 481, RAL and Pantone are different color standards. I used to work in plastic product design/manufacture where everything was done in RAL codes.
@@AxR558 RAL is also used in Powder Coating, had kitchen supboards done recently to Reseda Green RAL 6011
Me in my 20 quid second hand TN monitor:
*googles colour*
"humm, nice"
looks like the color on old school keycaps. nice
@@prgnify some people use those old old apple monitors due to colour reproduction. You good sometimes they are better and the monitor colour difference is one of the reasons why we have the cards.
The colors only being *slightly* different is exactly what's saving you money here, Linus.
Why would anyone care if the color is slightly off?
@@chadhowell1328 See this a lot in automotive parts. Something is advertised as "adonized red" and you get a pink. Then you return and complain only to get a replacement, that is yet Another shade of pink.
@@chadhowell1328 massive difference between red and pink and red and a red with .01% more white pigment.
@@crisnmaryfam7344
yeah, i would totally be distraught if the rubber ring on my screwdriver was pantone 199 instead of pantone 200
@@crisnmaryfam7344 not the best example considering how many compromises to color they had to make on every nes game.
Wow, for a 10k thing, this thing sounds like a nightmare to utilize!
a better index system and then it's great to use. It's LTT they will probably sort their own ways in a year and make a video about it
@@fomora12 what do you mean then? Sarah? Cuz shes great.
@@royce9018not just the index, some chips falling out while others get stuck is such a massive failure in my book
It can be really vital to those in production. And coordinating production across department and external stakeholders.
An amazing use is in a way that companies can use the colours to ensure fraud protection.
E.g. 3M have a very specific red colour. And they know what that red should be on various material types.
So if they suspect fraud, that would be the first area to test is the 3M red.
Also a specific colour shade/tone is also for brand consistency (See Coca-Cola).
2 suggestions to make your life easier. Put labels on the wheels that indicate its number so you no longer have to reference the sheet of paper. Second have someone on the team convert the PDFs into a Database where you can just type in the color number and it will tell you the wheel and number (I am sure someone on the LTT team can create one).
If they're searchable pdfs it wouldnt be awful to just control F in the documents but I agree a databse would be more efficient and likely the way to go in the long run.
If you want to get more cheeky, they could scan the entire thing, make 3D animation and when you type the number you want, it shows you the colour, the code and the exact position on the spinner. What would be the most helpful is to convert the weird code into a standard HTML colour codes, so when you are working in graphical software, you will know which colour you are using, or easily select that colour, even if your display colour seems different.
A bit more work, but it pays off in the long run by a lot. Downtime is money sink.
@@SneakyBadAssOG pantone color codes are in fact standard
@@SneakyBadAssOG Pantone colors don't 1:1 convert to screen colors. The real world has a wider color gamut than any screen
@@SneakyBadAssOG damnit, just motorize the wheels already. it'll spin itself and a stationary pointer will point to the right color chip
They definitely need to be able to email you those pdf without a cd... and they should make that tray a little more secure because that is crazy for $10K
They need to be able to slide them in and out with ease, extra mechanisms slow down the process.
@@Silenieux how abt a "insert sd card" mechanic where u push it for it to come out vice versa. u really dont wanna loose a card for this thing is 10k grand. def should be more secured
I think its more "buy 1,700 color calibrated plastic samples at $20.05 a pop and get a discount on the combined order, and a free shit quality sorting tray"
@@Silenieux A simple slope no more than 3 degrees on the lower rail and perhaps a tiny notch because the cards itself is stacked anyway instead of friction fit would easily solve the said issue.
Exactly, if I'm buying this, then they should put more pride into their design... that is expensive
4:44 There's a term for that. It's called metamerism. Having colors look the same\different under certain light\angle is exactly the point. (I do some non-color-related work for Pantone but I still have to know a bit about color science.)
Never knew there was something called colour science
I do kitchen cabinets so I'm really happy to know there's a word to use the next time someone is upset that their painted angled crown moulding doesn't look like it matches.
@@dawkosvk my mind is blown every day when I see purple and knowing that "purple" doesn't exist, humans simply can't see a bandwidth and the brain goes $@#% it here's some red and here is some blue, pretend it's a thing!
I found the violet pink thing more interesting, since I recently learned that people with brown eyes have more cells in front of their retina that filter out blue light and since I know that i notices that most of this violet vs pink or green vs blue borderline discussion are held between different eye colors.
We even have lightboxes with different light color patterns to check metamerism within the product
Sarah is great. More from her.
And Riley is the funniest guy! More from him also please.
subscribe to techlinked for riley
Giggly giggly giggly
Pls no. lmao
Zoomer girl overreacting to some colors, no pls
@@unknown_codec_404 why r u sitting in the comments if you think you can do any better?
I can understand why spending $10k on colour accurate reference chips would save time (therefore money) and money.
I am appalled at the indexing being that slow and clunky. There are so many ways that could be done to speed up finding the correct slot for the correct chip. Secondly, the quality control for the tolerences for the stand (with some chips being really hard to pull out and others just accidentally falling out) mind bogglingly crap, especially for $10k. I'm wondering whether that stand is actually intended for use, or if it is intended to be a "In case you have nothing else but otherwise use your own UV-blocking storage system.
It could be one of those things where it was done that way decades or even centuries ago and it made sense then, everyone coming up through the industry learnt to use it that way and so no one changes it even though a better system could be created. Like how we're all still stuck with QWERTY keyboards even though we no longer have to worry about the arms on our typewriters clashing.
@@Crusader1089 to be fair, QWERTY exists for more than just typewriter clash, it's also a lot more ergonomic than ABCD keyboards,
Yeah, the case was probably the first design ever, and they just kept it. No need to improve/refine it, as users probably buy a new one every 5 years, and one comes with each order. Otherwise, they could make their own shelves, and just print off labels with the numbers on them (Or even 1-10, 11-20, etc).
@@lurac5710 yes, QWERTY is better than an alphabetical keyboard which nobody has ever thought was a good idea. It's far worse than the actual competing keyboard layouts like dvorak and colemak
@@lurac5710 it's better than ABCD, but not the best it could be.
I love that even though LTT has gotten big, they still are personal. And that they make content on how their business operates as it grows.
I’m glad it’s still a private company. Linus has actually discussed this during a WAN show I believe. Pretty interesting
As much as I love the "Tech People" Reviews, seeing someone as bubbly and just excited about something as Sarah is about these is refreshing and a nice break from the norm.
True, tech people are too jaded after a few years.
simp
I've been in the screen printing/graphics industry for 17 years. Pantone PQ is for home and interior colors and doesn't always match the solid coated system. You would have been better off just using the books. It's also VERY important that you compare colors under the proper light. 5000 K daylight is the North American standard. You either need to get a D50 light box or find the proper lights for the office. In the back of the Pantone book there is a cool lighting indicator that will tell you if your lighting is correct.
It's been a while since I watched this - didn't they say that they used the fandeck(s) and struggled to get the desired match? Granted this whole set is overkill, but ordering a range of individual chips in their desired color range would have been cheaper and just as good for this one project.
D50 is the standard in some industries. In others it's D65. They do certainly need to pick a standard and view samples and chips in that condition to make a better educated decision.
For art school, I was forced to buy a series of swatches similar to the paper versions is these. They cost hundreds is dollars. My first color theory instructor has us cut up dozens of them like a deranged collage within the first 3 weeks. To say I was upset was an understatement.
I would have simply refused. Fail me on that project all you want, professor, I'm not cutting up literal HUNDREDS of dollars worth of product just cos you said so. Art school is expensive enough as it is!
I would refuse that. Lol
@@DavidStruveDesigns Am I missing something here? Generally projects are integral to your grade, so failing them is like failing your classes....
Of course, it's possible to fail one project and still pass, but why take that risk?
@@saintofsinners Well it would trigger a bit of a healthy discussion with the professor, lets be real you'd not be the only one who would feel apprehensive about using calibrated color swatches as art supplies.
@@EraYaN And after 2 min this discussion would end with absolutely no productive outcome. The kind of prof that does that very likely sees themself as some kind of demi-god that cannot be bothered with such things as caring about how much this 45 min lesson will costs his their students.
That’s a *butt* ton of colors!
No lies detected
indeed
364 gallons exactly
I see what you did there!
_ba dum tsss_
Years ago I worked for a company that was Pantone's largest dealer of textile colors standards for the western United States. A couple of things to consider is the color you see is only as accurate as the light you are looking at it under. Anyone working with color on this scale really ought to have a light box. Don't know if it's due to cones or rods but women can see subtler degrees of color than men. I highly recommend that you keep any color standard shaded when not in use. Also, C's at the end generally denote what it looks like on a coated material as opposed to matte.
You might find it interesting to know that, if a woman can see more colours than the average guy, it generally means that she is probably expressing a form of colour blindness. Due to the genetics of how colour blindness works in particular, a woman's eyes would tend to express the colour blind gene and the normal colour gene at the same time. Giving the woman in question four primary colours they can see. Instead of just three.
There's actually a fairly good chance that a woman with extremely good colour perception to actually have colourblind children.
ahhh yes... "nimrods and coneheads", how we all see the world is slightly different, but there's a great deal of stupidity out there, nearly an infinite colour ramp of it.
@@sivadfa Tetrachromats like you describe are extremely rare, and actually experience significantly different colour perception than a regular trichromat does. Colour sense is actually extremely culture-specific, and the differences in how men and women describe colour is very much due to upbringing, and how colours are learned and labelled during childhood. Some non-western indigenous cultures have even been documented as having wildly different criteria for distinguishing tones to westerners, and can distinguish things that we can't and vice versa.
I went to school for graphic design and printing and one of the first things I learned working in pre-press is the necessity of pantone books for understanding color and matching color for customer jobs as well as the insane cost of them. Thankfully coated and uncoated substrate pantone books are a lot less expensive than this and you really only buy them every 3 years or so but still, like $500-600 every time for new books (both color bridge and formula guide) is a fair chunk of cash. And usually you're buying like 3 or 4 sets because many people need them depending on the company size.
If U want 2 match colors, Pantone is not the way 2 do it, but 2 send (or receive) a physical sample the 'cu$tomer' wants 2 match so U know exactly what they want, not a 'guessing game' based on 'callibrations' = fux sake. U clowns R #Vaxxer level insane =))
Love it when Sarah presents something she's really passionate about. It always makes for a super enjoyable video.
I think that’s 2/3 of LTT’s success. Finding the right host for a subject so that I’ll spend 20 min watching a video about color chips…..
@@ryanhamstra49 Tbh it was done well though. They made me interested in learning about the topic and I'm glad I did because it's something I didn't know before.
@@tylerwaltz3528 oh totally! I can’t tell you how many videos I’ve watched for stuff I’ll never afford or want to buy, but they make it fun to watch so I do
@@ryanhamstra49 facts
If she isn’t cheery like this, something is very wrong, stay away. Maybe give her a snickers.
Those comparative chips (A and B) were definitely different when they hit the light in a certain way, which is the entire reason you get them. Because they will look different in certain circumstances and not others, but that one time will make a difference.
But what I am wondering:
The material of the part you are making won't be the same as the Panton chip. And the surface finish also won't be the same.
So even if you perfectly match your product to the chip, will it not still look different in different lights?
@@Jehty_
It's like mastering audio on your high fidelity headphones and then having someone play it on their airpods. There's always gonna be a difference but it shouldn't be significant.
This way the company can't do their best to match the color you are looking for. These look like they are for plastic and cloth items. If it's for paint it's way easier to color match paint finish.
@@MaksKCS but the difference the surface texture makes is significant.
@@Jehty_ yes, but consider this: if you didn't know what the exact color looked like, there would be 2 possible errors that could've been made. By you, and the manufacturer. This guarantees you don't make a mistake and it's left for the manufacturer to deliver exactly what you want. Otherwise it's just a guessing game. "Did I choose the correct color, or did the manufacturer mess it up?"
6:18 the spins and then the edge of the plastic turns from coloured to white is so satisfying. Make a short and i could watch it the whole day
i spent 3-4 mins watching it on repeat , its addicting r/oddlysatisfying
Sarah! This video brings me great joy. My favourite pantone colours are 13-4202 TCX, and 15-5711 TPX. Maybe not to be used together, but I love soft, cool colours that inspire serenity.
See..... along with all of the usual LTT videos, I'd LOVE to see more videos from the creator's warehouse like this! I'm a tech nerd, but I'm also a graphic designer / artist so this was informative and fun!
Do you have a favorite Pantone color?
They have a spin-off channel for Mac Address. I could definitely see a channel focused on art and design one of these days.
@@robinsuj Pantone 803 C ... or perhaps even Pantone 12-0643 tcx "Blazing Yellow".. but it tends to lean more towards red than the 803C. Even Pantone Process Yellow C is nice. I had a 'VW Beetle color concept' painted with what VW called "Double Yellow" (paint code LD1D) and I loved that color. It was on the leather... the wheels.. the paint... and I want to get one of these amazing yellows painted on part of my black van so it's more bee-themed =)
agreed!
It's actuallly astonishing how badly this gizmo aimed at designers is designed itself...
Pantone is a monopoly, they can do whatever they want and people have to buy it
@@arunashamal didn't even know Pantone was a brand before this video, it's so synonymous with standardized colors that i thought it was just the actual term for it.
@@arunashamal not really
Because a designer probably designed it not an engineer
@@poisonpotato1 dEsIgNeR bAd EnGiNeEr GoOd
im totally convinced that linus partly got these so he could use them to make sure his house gets painted the right colour.
I have soul bonded with the editor that put the question marks on the wheels to make them confused. I laughed alone in a dark room for too long at that, as I imagine they did when they created that masterpiece.
LMG is collecting the nerdiest of the nerds, and I love it!
No, they're just putting them on camera.
Sometimes that is what you want. You want people who are experts in their field no matter what field it is even if it is just about colors. I think she has a point though spend big money now and save money, frustration, and time later.
And across multiple interest not just tech. I like it.
You haven't seen a proper nerd if you think Sarah is one
@@Sithhy You dont know what nerd is, and you are confusing nerd vs geek.
Sarah's super high energy and enthusiasm really makes me want to watch this again even though I am never gonna use this product lol.
Ok coomer
sarah had to much antusiasm lol
Actually her screaming really put me off.
simpy simpy
Same thoughts here! Made me think that this channel sure could do with more women presenters, just to move the diversity meter closer to the middle 🥳🤓
I can't believe how natural Sarah became on shooting videos. From how shy and nervous she was in the secret shopper videos to absolutely glowing in the latest videos is just amazing! Especially when it's a design topic or something that she's passionate about :)
thats how it is then you know what you are doing
The fact that she's absolutely gorgeous, AND charismatic, also doesn't hurt.
I actually work in color matching for silicone projects. And we only have the flip books, which are terrible! Something like this would be incredibly helpful for me but the company is too cheap to spend the cash for it.
no they aren't cheap. This is a stupid fucking product, linus has money to blow and buys garbage like this , doesn't mean a regular company should
Literally ALL of the cost of this goes into verifying the accuracy of those chips. It seems insane, but I'm not sure if everyone here understands the complexity and challenge of making even 2 objects the exact same color, much less the hundreds of thousands of these that exist in design studios around the world. The whole point of these is to enable companies to communicate EXACT information about color, which is super subjective. Just think of all the disclaimers on websites about "colors on screen may vary slightly from the actual product"
What you're basically seeing are consumer reactions to professional/industrial tools. If you're in the target market for these chips, the $10K investment pays itself off in no time at all.
@Por Qué? mass production quality control is immensely difficult. if you worked in an industry that deals with MP you'd know how hard it is...
Well, producing the same plastic colour isn't that difficult. The "recipe" consists of the same amount of dye and raw materials which remains unchanged. As long as the manufacturer makes sure their raw materials and dye are up to standard, the plastic produced with the recipe will be the same colour.
Where I work there's a guy who matches everything to less than 1 delta E for slightly above minimum wage because the computer tells him exactly how much pigment and what color to add.
These things aren't worth nearly what they're charging people.
I really don't get this. Doesn't evey colour have a unique id ? Like an hexadecimal number or an RGB one ? Why not use those ?
I know those "only" cover about 16 millions of colours out there, but is there any need for more colours ?
I'm just asking, because I don't see why I should already know this
The pain on Linus's face every time she mentions the price is, itself, priceless
The guy was just slamming that shit so I doubt he cares
It actually has a price...
@@Isaiaswolf66
Spending $10K once on this product is way better than spending a similar amount multiple times on the samples as he said in the video. He saved a few bucks there. For all I think, that expression when Sara mentions the price every time could be fake
I think she knows Linus weakness, money!
Nah I’d say it’s at least worth $10k
This is fascinating to me as I didn’t even know this existed before now. As an outside observer I’m impressed and can see why the product is so expensive. This is the kind of product that needs to be made to an exacting specification or it’s literally useless. Their buyer needs to be able to trust that each of those chips is the precise color they are expecting it to be.
Even just the reference booklets. Ensuring that each of the hundreds of colors in the booklets is printed to the *exact* color specified adds serious cost. But dang those chips, manufacturing that many different colors of plastic in such a way that they can be used as a definitive reference for a color. It’s actually pretty crazy.
That bit with the green chips was actually the perfect example. If you were actually trying to manufacture a product in the color of green B, you’d be pretty upset and would waste money if it came out on the color of green A. Even though they are similar, they are clearly different enough that you’d be able to tell the color of your product was off. This is of course assuming you care a lot about quality and brand image. But that’s who this was made for.
The fitment issues are a bummer though.
Yes pretty much everything you buy to use as a precise reference will be very expensive; Gauge blocks come to mind for use in machining or just reference surfaces that are precision ground to within 1 µm
I can't tell the difference between yellow and green so this seems insanely useless.
@@oksuree you also can't see the world when you close your eyes so that must mean it ceases to exist when you're not looking.
now imagine if it was made by people that painted Linus home.
pretty sure it would've been cheaper and better fitted if it hadn't been china sweatshopped
The part I don't understand is the people buying the screwdriver don't care what exact shade of orange it is. Just ship them out.
Sarah is so full of energy, amazing to have her on the show more!
she seems a lot more excited when the topic is directly in her wheel-house tho. Which makes sense really, every time they get her to do tech related stuff she is not *really* into it.. but give her Pantone codes and she's all sparkling eyes and bubbly.
I don't like her so much and I don't care about Pantone, just wanted to see Linus' reaction, but this was fun to watch from start to finish.
As someone whose sister wants to be an artist, all I can say is leave it to a bunch of artist to make such an inane sorting system.
There is a method to the madness...
@@wobblysauce it's stupid.
Sarah is amazing. I honestly don’t know anything about this, but I watched the whole thing because it was super fun.
Same!
She definitely deserves more screen time if she wants it. But I'm guessing Linus is a good enough boss to notice this.
Im a little bit confused since i remember the wan show where she said goodbye and left ltt, but now shes back?
Like, channelsuperfun?
@@davidwiedenau8766 which episode was it? Was it very long ago? I don't remember this being very recent, if it did happen.
If I were in production, I would want someone as excited and serious about color as Sarah is. Wow!
As an engineer I don’t need these. But despite working on control systems we have a huge, meticulous set of gauge blocks. Like the colour chips they’re expensive but getting things right each time is fucking tremendous.
Cash well spent/invested.
I used to do metal finishing on prosthetic implants and the company I worked for invested a lot of money in precision instruments like gauges and calipers. People were just so careless about using them that they had to be replaced often. I also went to school for graphic design so I can totally understand her excitement and then need for color swatches. There is no greater disappointment than perfecting a design on screen only to have it look like total shit on print.
As someone who sold and mixed paint for 15 years, the slightest change in color on a small paper chip vs. a real sample is HUGE.
As someone who bought paint and painted for 15 years, these are only for people who give a shit about the most minute change in colour. The lonely stay-at-home mom-types whose lives have no meaning so they try to control every tiny thing in order to feel like they're important. And people who want to pretend they have some special secret knowledge nobody else has. If you can't tell whether or not the colour matches without putting it next to something else then who the fuck cares
And it doesn't make any difference in the end anyways considering the fact that everyone sees colours differently so it might be perfect to one person but not the next... so what's the point?
I get why its so expensive, the customer base isnt huge, quality control for the colors is extremely important, and you have 1700 distinct parts that you need to manufacture seperately.
And it still came out as totally cheap plastic crap at the end LUL
wdym "quality control" its build like absoulte garbage. $10000 plastic wheel and the chips fall out and get stuck.
@@anonymouscommentator for the colors.
@@anonymouscommentator quality control for the individual colors, not the actual holder. Pantone swatches are notorious for being expensive to print with especially on smaller scales.
@@anonymouscommentator Getting plastic the perfect color consitently is pretty expensive. And for a product that is used as a reference, getting it right is very important. Just look at Lego. Depending on the batch the colors can vary a lot. But I agree that for 10 Grand having to use ancient indexing-methods and the card-holder itself is a joke tho.
i never had the feeling that i was more spoken directly to because how she looks at the camera. chilling and pulling on my focus. weird but kinda cool
I’ll say this, her smile and her laugh is soooooo infectious. We need more of Sarah!!!
infectious only meaning it makes me sick
She's adorable
All the thumbs UP ! 🔥🔥
Totally agree what pantone are those eyes!!!
And yet unimaginably more genuine and more engaging than that madison. Anything with her in was like watching pimp my ride.
The enthusiasm Linus' team shows in everything they do makes me feel good. I'm glad they have a job they really love.
This video is amazing for a number of reasons. A big one is Sarah's excitement. It's just so genuine.
I never imagined I'd find plastic squares of different colors so interesting.
I love how excited she is for essentially colored cards. Though I understand why they would make her job a lot easier.
Its industry standard cards so its really important for anyone working in designing or mixing colours for the wall for example
She literally explained that they probably splashed enough on samples and those go for hundreds to thousands of dollars each.
the value to get it right at the first try is easily getting the costs back from those things. Of course it is not affordable for smaller start ups. But LTT should be quiet large enough by now to consider themselves a medium or even large firm (remember, he is paying tens of thousands of dollars yearly just for his cameras and editing software).
So they can afford it easy, even if Linus tends to question the purchases his team is making :D
Artists maaaan ....
Easier is an understatement!
Here is an idea motorize those wheels, use addressable RGB strip to guide you to the exact one. use a raspberry pi to automatically pick the color from index or colors. make transparent case with proper lighting . or even better.. make new wheels for easier picking.
This would actually be a useful add-on for a 10k product !
@@neocyke yes his videos were my inspirations.
you would think a 10k product coould maybe be 10.5k and have this already as an option when buying
someone was talking about protecting them from indoor light so it could be all enclosed with an opening and would rotate so the colour you want is exposed
This comment needs to be upvoted to the moon
Now THIS is what I subscribe for. Please have Sarah opening/reviewing more design-focused stuff please (and yes the greens were totally different)
I just love how stoked and passionate she is about this. I can dig it.
Pantone 306 U is the closest (95% accurate) to my favorite color: Cherenkov blue (#22BBFF; RGB: 34, 187, 255). Set your waterblock and reservoir LEDs to that and your rig suddenly takes on a very nuclear reactor look to it! 😁
holy shit, someone on the internet who actually knows that reactors dont give a green light
Didn't imagine I'd find someone referencing Cherenkov radiation in an unscripted review of a design product on second tier RUclips channel comment section.
oh it's that blue light from the water thingy in the reactor right
@@donloder1 Yes, it's the blue light from when radiation goes faster than the speed of light. Seen in nuclear reactors.
For everyone going WTF, speed of light through a medium is slower than speed of light in a vacuum.
Same :o
As a Lighting Designer, I get it, but damn, when I get free swatch books at trade shows from the manufacturers, it's hard to justify that amount of cash!
Sarah gave her justification even though she has reference books/pamphlets already: working with plastics was a whole different beast and making it harder to get the color they were looking for. So she pushed for getting the plastic chips so you can see the colors on plastic, as Linus said every time they need to delay and get new samples costs them more money.
It's pretty easy to justify when you realize how much money AND time they're saving with this purchase. Productivity goes up while costs go down, pretty sensible purchase.
True, but Sara addresses that in the video. The swatch books fall out of calibration really quick, and don't have the same accuracy level.
@@Kyle_116 yep, I watched the same video you did. I know her justification and that's fine.
@@davidklein1245 lighting filters wont unless you leave them under a lamp.
My favourite pantone colours are 13-3820 Lavender Fog, 16-3812 Heirloom Lilac, 17-3834 Dahlia Purple and 14-3911
Purple Heather thank u for listening 🥰
@NightRaven 630 No but it‘s a good one for sure 😁
@NightRaven 630 Fun fact, Prince‘s estate had a custom colour standard created by Pantone based on his purple yamaha piano! It‘s called "Love Symbol #2" and doesn‘t have a code bc it‘s not available to the public
Pantone system is a must for every Designer. Its a lot harder to call your New York clients and guess what color they use on the logo "the logo has a lime greenish color" which is not accurate at all because you would have everyones version of lime green. With Pantone all you have to say is "our logo uses Pantone 802(n) Then no one get blamed (learn from your mistakes) for having incorrect color on on someones logo.
Sarah is an AWESOME presenter!!!
She's got such a lively, fun, bubbly, happy personality!
I love watching her videos cuz she just brings so much joy to them.
Love it!!!
Loved her on the secret shopper series! Also really liked seeing her ginormous kitty mess with Linus during her intel extreme tech upgrade, I'm glad she went with the hardware instead 0f the $4,500 starbucks gift card. I hope someone teaches her the wonder of making her own coffee at home with actual descent coffee beans. I will never understand people that spend a lunch meals worth of money on daily, shitty, overpriced coffee. I mean I get going out for it every once in a while but people literally spend thousands of dollars on brew that is barely mediocre.
wtf does bubbly even mean? You're calling her fat?
With a rasping voice....
@@colouredIncognito
There are rasp-ier voices.
Or it could be your speakers/earphones.
(It doesn't come through on B&O.)
@@tygobermind3640 Bubbly would be equivalent to something like full of life, full of energy, full of enthusiasm.
There are some major, major improvements that Pantone could make with this chip collection storage system given how much they charge for their products.
The colors might be accurate but the arrangement solution is terrible
Well - the price is not so much for the physical tower, but is a license fee. Having said that - yeah, this could be much more cleverly designed 😁
Strong 80's vibe, reminds me of the cassette holder carousel I had when I was a kid
@@luelou8464 Agreed. Not sure why everyone is malding over the price like it's sky high. Just imagine if you use 5 mins to readjust/reset the injection mold for 1,755 times and not counting QC. That's an awful load of time to make this and pretty it doesn't just take 5 mins for each color and these stuff don't move at high volumes since not every designer will buy these.
@@luelou8464 as a point of order, 9 grand for 1755 chips does not in any way translate to 2 bucks per chip.
6:30 "Let us know your favorite Pantone code!"
I am too picky to have a single one, because you never color anything in a void. But I do have a favorite _pair_ of Pantone colors.
PANTONE Blue 0821 C (a soft pastel cyan) with PANTONE 2716 C (a soft pastel lavender). The latter is actually, oddly enough, similar to Sarah's shirt in this video. Anyway, that soft lavender paired with a similarly soft cyan. They complement each other really well for a striking (but not garrish) design highlight.
Damn, they look really nice
I'm gonna need a translation to good ol RAL here
Who asked?
Blue/purple is such a rock solid color combo, regardless of the shade or hue you pick. Whether it’s cyan/lavender, deep blues and purples, light, or dark, it’s ssoooo good.
Pantone 2793 - The most Royal of Purples.
That definitely seems like something you'd need to keep in a locked cabinet to prevent Janet in HR from borrowing (without asking) Pantone F69420 when she's thinking of re-painting her pantry. Where it'll get chipped up in her bag on the ride home, exposed to UV rays as it sits by the kitchen window for a week or so, and eventually be taken to Home Depot where it'll be forgotten on a shelf at the store.
We need more of Sarah! Her laughter is so genuine and infectious.
I would like this comment but It needs to stay at 69 likes
she looks like lana rhoades
@@hadeez7 Honestly I was gonna be like nahhhhhh but actually yah lol.
@@hadeez7 Actually an edit to that statement would be *pre op Lana Rhoades since she got a bunch of work done and doesn't look the same anymore at all but old Lana for sures.
Yeah, like noisy kid. No thanks.
It's always a pleasure to watch Sarah on camera, love her super enthusiastic and jovial mood.
Yea, sometimes it "feels like" (is) acting, but it's good acting. She's definitely naturally like that to a degree but nonetheless..
Being a graphic designer and having worked and owning a print shop, I understand the importance of Pantone matching. We had multiple books. We where always calibrating the printer and monitors. Working with companies like Coke, Tesla and Anheuser-Busch; Color matching is a Must! I also get her excitement form finding and matching colors as well. Great Video!
Yea imagine a random shipment of brownish-red coke bottles instead of red and black coke bottles. That'd be a marketing fail for sure.
It’s important but it’s also a pain in the ass to match especially with equipment that wasn’t up to date 😂 luckily matching by eye helps
This is why I left that end of advertising a long time ago. I'm just not that anal retentive and at that time is was hard to find and hire available Europeans. Yes! I said it. LOL XD
Why are the colours not coded in some scientific way? Why these nonsense names? Why not for example using standard hex code?
@@risharehraje793 colours in the real world that are printed or dyed ofr clothing etc. are completely diffferent to what you see on a monitor using RGB. Not only that but a lot of monitors are different even after calibration they can still have different colours. Hex codes should in theory work correctly but then you have the issue of the printer not printing it the exact same each and every time which is a common issue. Similar to dyes, inks and other mediums that need to be mixed. Hope this helps explain things at least a little.
I have been working in the merch printing (games, books...) industry for 10 years now. This is so important. It saves so much time and money. Yes, it is a lot of money beforehand, but it is well worth it.
"It costs us a lot of. Money so we're gonna milk it for as much as we can" Describes every video Linus makes
To be fair, describes any business xD
Watching u guys evolve really makes me warm inside.. ... from the humble beginning up to now where u guys really care up to the details of colour. Keep it up guys.... hope LTT can be strong enuf for employees to be loyal tru life time. Salute!
I was waiting for Linus to drop one of the wheels sending $1000's of dollars of Pantone chips flying across the room.
Sarah almost managed to do that herself. :P
@@BrianDickens4 She's learning from the best
what a loss of giggles. :/
Cant believe I've never had contact with or even thought about this part of the industry... this is weirdly amazing and now I want to know the exact code of favorite colors too!
Sarah could do a review on the dictionary and I would watch it. Her joyful spirit is infectious!!
I was just thinking how annoying she is.
@@ZaPpaul annoying for a sad and limited person yes.. you are right
@@ZaPpaul Not anymore annoying than you
@@ZaPpaul and this is why you still a virgin
Cringe level over 9000 lolol
I'm so happy for her :D She's obviously having a designer nerdgasm from these cards.
One of my parents is a professional graphic designer & typesetter, been seeing those paper color swatches for years and never really knew what they were but I've been around these sort of things so long that this whole video made so much sense. My mom also has color codes memorized, can nail any font on sight, and can nail down a pretty narrow range of color swatches she sees on-screen or on paper. Loved the detailed explanations throughout the video, Sarah is a natural on-camera! The exchanges where she needles Linus about the pricepoint was high comedy.
You describe your mom like she's gone to MI6 or something.
Not diss you out, as a Graphic Designer(ish) myself, she's like one boss that can read your mind to engaging some tomfoolery.
Big dubs for your parents bro, They take the W.
Time for an episode of PAWN STARS
I worked web design for a while and got pretty good at picking out the hexadecimal codes for colors, after staring at them long enough it becomes second nature
I would love to work with typography. It seems so cool… you know for a fricken nerd. Every time I see any variation of Futura I have to suppress the urge to say something, unless I want to annoy my sister or close friends 😂
I love listening to people try and explain why Pantone makes all their products so expensive lol
I used to work in a print shop and we had the same Pantone books for 3+ years!
Graphic Designers: Man, Copics are really expensive.
Pantone: Hold our beer.
Kid me saved up so much for Copics, then boom WACOM came out with affordable drawing tablets.
Copics are 6 each. Pantone 2 each
Copics, chartpaks and prismas u_u
@@ktomcruz Then BOOM! Cheap chinese Screen Tablets.
more like "Buy us all a beer and hold them."
We have one of these at my workplace where we design & manufacture interior furniture for office spaces, courtrooms, etc and I remember somebody telling me that the "big spinny colour thing" is the most expensive singular item in the office besides our plotter. I was flabbergasted. Also my favourite is 295C
Growing up in an interior design business mixing paint in the paint store this just ticks so many boxes.
And yes those were different greens.
I mean, come on anyone with two functioning EYES can see it clearly in the video
@@jeremydale4548 r/whoosh I'm pretty sure Linus was just clowning around as he does.
It honestly looks like such a blast to work at LTT HQ!
I'm really enjoying all the videos sharing some of the behind the scenes info about what goes into designing and making physical products. It's really interesting and shows how much work actually goes into these things.
You'd think for 10000$ Pantone would send a usb drive or a memory card instead of a CD. I'm guessing they're gonna keep doing it until their CD stock runs out (might be an indicator how much of these they sold)
Using a CD is not as bad of an idea as it seems like on the first glance. Flash storage will eventually start "forgetting" what is stored on it and flip random bits (aka. "bit rot"). This usually happens after a really long time so, depending on how long you can use these color chips, it may be not an issue worth considering, but optical media can theoretically hold up longer than a flash drive.
Putting the PDF files on a CD may also help work around operating systems deprecating old file systems because the file system on a CD will usually be ISO9660 which is a standard that is unlikely to go away because everyone is still using it (.iso files) where FAT is generally considered deprecated and other file systems have a tendency to not be supported on all platforms. Again, this is - in most cases - a non-issue and only matters if the chips are supposed to hold up for decades.
@@bodgemaster7946 It is not a bad idea but we’re living in 2022. A QR code would even be better and download “PDF” files online in just mere seconds.
@@verynice4829 Of course, having a download option is the way to go but there should also be an offline option because the server hosting it will eventually go away. How useful a QR code would be in this case is debatable given that you would probably not want said PDF on your phone, you’d most likely want it on your PC.
I can watch Sarah all day. He happiness is so contagious. I wonder if there’s another standard that can challenge Pantone? This set seems to be not well thought out and the lack of quality for the price is a disappointment. It would be cool if the LTT team designed a better 3D printed version of the holders and came up with a better order method that wouldn’t depend on comparing 3 towers to know where to look for a specific chip.
Probably but idk if it would be worth it, we're talking about resorting over 1700 color chips, the amount of time and effort it'd take to do that would be insane
@@calh109 Eeh, it's all in a very specific order and all of them are indexed on the card, so it could be done relatively simply. I agree on the effort, but I would also say that some (including myself) would find such a task pretty engaging
There are another standards too. Just look up RAL for example. It's widely used with plastics and metal products and we use it too. CMYK is another standard for print.
@@weakamna it seemed to me like they were saying reorder them into their own "improved" order, reordering that many chips would be a massive undertaking and that's what I was talking about
This is exactly why I INSIST on having a CD drive in all of my computers, I do a lot of random industrial work and sometimes the only way you can find things is on a CD. I'm debating getting a tape drive for archival work.
I love the fact that I'm watching a video about a turntable of colors yet I'm colorblind and can't see half the colors anyway.
You're not missing out on much.
I see all the colours and I couldn't care less if a product is a shade off. Yes, I would be upset if something I bought is a different color than that on the package, because that is a scam, or I buy a set and one of them is different, but I wouldn't care if they give me a product that is not fire red, but instead is apple red. It's good enough. Most people don't care about it.
I watched the entire video without understanding nothing, this is how good Sarah is!
*Attractive*
Agreed! Never knew how much detail goes.. well I know a lot does go into it but it’s nice to have a mental standard to reference! Really good video
Learning more about colors like this is INCREBLY interesting. Heck I'm all for more of these showcases
Same with all the camera videos, just very entertaining
..Without understanding nothing....so youre saying you understood everything?
I worked in publishing for 17 years. My favorite Pantone is PMS 2602, a nice vibrant violet.
at 6:50 Linus picks PQ-320C which looks like a "Tiffany blue" which is my favorite color, so I guess that means I'm ready to launch my own empire from the ground up because i'm exactly like Linus
Love how Linus has a background in painting and yet decides that the two greens being very slightly different is just not a big deal at all
Also how simultaneously he will go absolutely apeshit over the wrong finish (For good reasons obviously). But it is still a hilarious and weird thing to not care about.
He does? Cool, are there any videos that touch upon it?
@@Jonyb222 the title is The Paint Rant. over on the LMG Clips channel
@@rakirizki6671 Omg it's glorious
@@Jonyb222 look for "the paint rant" you will be entertained
The amount of passion she has for the work is really nice to see. I don't get to see that very often working in IT.
That was my thought too. Enthusiast, bubbly, cute
linus really has a dream team working with and for him
I just want to say that sarah is becoming my favorite LTT presenter! She was a little inexperienced (but still knowledgable) in the early videos, but now she is absolutely crushing it! She fits the LTT vibe very well, love to see her in any videos. Keep up the great work! Thanks Linus for leading an awesome crew!
Mmm, i like linus and jake the best, sarah Mmm idk, I loose focus, just my opinion.
I love her energy!, a lot more upbeat than linus or jake.
also love anthony too.
@@lastduet4728 thats cool, but its that excess energy that puts me off, anyway im not saying sarah is bad, entire team is great, i just like linus the most tbh
@@OT-tn7ci Oh yeah that energy feels like what I do all the time. So I vibe with it. Lol
I love the whole team as well. They are all cool. 😋😊
She got me watching the channel again, even resubscribed to short circuit and Linux content
Pantone 7641U is still my favorite, a bit dark but way better in uncoated than in coated. I bougt a pair of coated and uncoated formula guides for private use for only 80€, MSRP was 200€.
Looks like Sarah had an early christmas present. Nice to see these chips in good hands, where they are acknowledged.
I really like this "we're milking this company expense for all it's worth" mentality from LMG. It makes them feel even more grounded than they already are
But they do it ethically too. No harm to staff or the environment. Milking their strengths and blessings, not scalping their customers and staff. :)
@@TechyBen Exactly! Makes me love how they run the company even more
Depending on how serious their current cash shortage is, it might be for short term business needs as well as it being the right thing to do and interesting content
@@TAP7a ah true, interesting to see if they have a 2022 update of the "how does linus make money" video in the pipeline
I think it's mainly "Everything can be interesting"
Internet is maybe not the perfect tool to instil in-depth knowledge of a technical subject - but it can smash it out of the park in explaining why anybody might want to buy $10k worth of plastic rectangles.
They are definitely different greens; then again I'm a graphic designer and I learned to care about those things, and I do appreciate the ease that the standardization of color such as Pantone brings, although I do believe that they overprice their products quite a bit (even if they do worth more than they look).
Oh, my favorite PANTONE is 2098 C.
I bet network effects give them a lot of market power. Designers want them because it's what the manufacturers use and manufacturers want them because it's what the designers use. Also the nobody ever got fired for buying IBM effect.
@@charleslambert3368 I agree, and I can't wait to see a real shift in that market abuse.
I just love it when Sarah presents, she brings such a natural bubbly energy to the set!
It’s variety from the usual “white nerdy tech guy” vibe. I love LMG videos but they are of a type, so variation is nice.
@@exigency2231what white nerdy tech woman is a big variation lmao
@@brickmasterstudios447 shes somewhat attractive so yea, gets the pass from everyone 😂
@@supremecai5857 you don’t think Linus a god among men? Or luke? This are jokes btw
This clearly looks like the most necessary purchase Linus has ever made.
Because they could never do something as simple & obvious as printing out the color samples they want & sending them via mail 2 match so their products look the way they want, or 2 cut out some sample from a magazine photo or some other object = no, like 'callibration' & 'digital files' will get U there easier = HAHAHAHA
@@Deathrape2001 Looks like someone did not watch the video or could not comprehend what was said. They already used to do what you just said. but the paint on the printed paper was not working out. they have been using all different methods for over 2 years until they bit the bullet and bought the Pantone wheel because they were losing money just experimenting and doing trial and error.
Have you always been this stupid?
@@Deathrape2001 Sadly it isn't that simple if you want a perfect match for every product they put out.