I think that the key point that this video highlights might just be that 99% of finds are in the range of both detectors. The 1% that are just a little deeper or harder to detect might just be where the manticore shines. For most of us, the price isn't worth that 1%. Point to note also... Now there are multiple versions of the nox, you'll need to be more specific about which you are comparing. Do they all have the same detection power but different features? I'm lost on that part (as a Nokta guy I stopped paying attention!)
Thanks for your honest review. That's why I watch you. I lived in NH and MA for 20+ years and metal detected there Lots. Now I am in AZ and to old to detect. Thanks too you guys that post on RUclips I detect thru you.
Merrill, in heavy iron increase your recovery speed or slow down your swing to get better separation. It's amazing that you can go back to heavily hunted areas and still pull out silver!
As Jeff showed us, you must pinpoint first, then you can see what the detector is reading. Do you remember starting with the Nox-600? If you immediately started with 50-tones and all-metal you were overwhelmed and you dug far too much trash as a result.
notice how the well hammered old NYC park yielded much more silver and pennies, than the virgin previously undetected PA. farm trip ? Pa. farmers didn't drop a lot of coins. Kids would go unfed. When a nickel was lost during 1930s Great Depression on a farm, it better damn well be found, or someone got their butt kicked. A nickel meant a loaf of bread for big family 5-10 or more kids.
Merrill, One other comment. You are a funny guy. Gut humor is timing. You really have improved at timing your humor. It comes off as funnier and is a nice break from the hunting. The bit you did with the glasses was hilarious. Bill
I found this post today worth noting: "The problem was recovery speed. the game has changed where I live. If you want to find old coins you need to hunt iron that people ran from in past." underlying issue ? people don't drop pre-1964 silver, pre-1933 gold coins anymore. only so many in ground, and less and less in ground daily, as areas get pounded by detectorists, and more recovered. we're going into era of digging every hit in hopes of finding coins. flipside is, where Merrill detects old NYC beaches, will always be best spot. seaside changes daily, relics and coins wash up from offshore, replenishing it. IMHO, he has best metal detecting area in country. it's like people are still dropping silver, gold there, the ocean washes in old stuff from ages ago. detecting is hobby of diminishing returns, unless there's new ground under your feet constantly. there's only so much down there, they stopped making it, a wasting asset just like mining anything else. Merrill has the most productive mine.
awesome vid Merrill, now you're focused on screen, and loaded for bear 🐻 on device settings... settled to your work, calm calculated detecting...I've seen this phenom before, heavily hunted areas will still yield dimes, pennies....the cheaper detectors, less experienced operators, will miss the small coins...and grab the quarters and larger first- leaving behind straggler dimes, pennies for the determined to find...those quarters are an amazing outlier for a hunted spot! iron trash camouflage was hiding them. just like deer hunting, you also need LUCK! when a big buck walks by at oddball location, you still must be able to take/make the shot. you have a WINGMAN...behind every Ace pilot, is a great wingman. I've found many bullets, ever wonder who fired them at what, why ? lol. SUPERB VIDEO 👍
now you're progressing from axe wielding barbarian, to technician, to master detecting artist. an ace. it's all about intuition, thinking outside the box, knowing your machine. an ace shoots down all targets in the area, before departing. the bloody red baron 🥓
I've been waiting for the Equinox vs. Manticore videos, and now they start arriving! Great stuff, and I wish I could put an extra "like" on this video for Jeff being in it! The two of you are just the most amazing metal detecting duo, and I always wish the videos with the two of you in it were at least twice the length! :D
I have had my 900 for three weeks now and totally amazed with it. I also have the Deus to and when I use the Deus to find a lot of good stuff I’m gonna come back over the same area with a 900 I find even more they are a great one to punch. There’s no doubt in my mind beside the screen and the headphones on the manticore the 900 is just as good no need to spend the extra money.
Awesome video as always brother .love your stuff .with all your help we wont be in the dark anymore about how stuff realy go down .hope you gona be on til we like 85 years old .thanks for all the work you do ring master!
At the 4:20 minute mark, that's classic Minelab tech. The bouncing around, the trace appearing. The one thing the CTX handled really well is the ID - well enough that you could do a lot of the inference right from the screen, and depending on how you configured it, also from the sound. The technique of orienting the coil in a manner to chase out a signals signature has been possible with much older machines. Never 100% reliably though, as even machines I've been using for over 10 years, using similar methods to sniff out bottlecaps, have always been that guessed target. Any bend in even silver coins would cause the same iron grunt or visualization. I feel like the Equinox expanded both the VDI and tonal feedback ranges to cause us to dig more. I too have benefited from the unmasking, but feel a lot of it is way overhyped, and I'd trade the accuracy of the CTX ID over the wide ranges of the Equinox. There's no reason here in Canada a large cent should ring in on the same VDI range as iron, but that's what happens with the Equinox. And it's because certain large cents here used bronze, and not always copper. It's this need to adjust to the machine which has made me less of a believer in the hype of the Nox, because I have older machines that are much better dialed into the VDI and tones than the Equinox can ever achieve. With the added upside that none of those older machines have EMI sensitivity issues where I find myself needing to switch to single frequency on the Nox to stabilize it at locations where old sites I had no issues with EMI, suddenly became issues for EMI when using the "multi-frequency." Sorry for the long rant, but this is a meta topic for me, I'm still trying to get my hands on a Mantictore, but will provide feedback on that when I do. Great video Merrill!
Great video. This is the best way to test! Air tests, or putting things on the ground with the coil up in the air really isn't telling you much. I'd love to do more coin detecting content on my channel but we can't dig with shovels, unless you get permission to do a private farm or something.
A great video for sure Mr Merell, love that face pin!, great stuff!, God all my life i,ve been wanting to find a standing liberty quarter but to no avile, any way , would love to see a beach detecting video ( in the water video) with you and your friends to see how it works in the water.
Merrrill, really well done video. Yoiu structured it very well and Jeff fit in seamlessly. I do think that there is interest in comparing the Manticore to the Deus II as opposed to the Equinox. Perhaps at some point you could bring your Deus II and hand off the Manticore to Jeff. That would be a fund video to watch. Bill
What Merrill is not putting in consideration to his viewers , is that the Manticore can reach better depths due to the fact it's sensitivity can reach much higher levels. Of coarse that's when conditions allow for it. The Nox maxes out at 25. The Manticore can reach 35.
@@carlfr2977 That opinion still is yet to be verified & proved. Hopefully it does have that extra depth sensitivity, although sensitivity isn't the same thing as power output into the ground. 🙏🏻
@@jimcollins9999 I believe it's true! I mean that's why Minelab calls it the beast mode. When opportunity allows it, it should grab a deeper target better than having a lowered sensitivity. Yes, we need to see more reports. Plus, wait until we see the new update on it. Minelab may seriously improve this machine even better! We'll see?
@@carlfr2977 I hope so! That's what Merrill is trying to find out by recording these videos, and comparative reviews, along side the Nox800. The answers come over time. 👍
@@jimcollins9999 I'm sure it's not all the reason too but, it certainly aids it. No other Minelab detector has the scale of up to 35. I'd call it a boost mode in my opinion.... So far I can't bring it past 25 without some eratic reaction ......Minelab says that you enter beast mode after #26 though. They call it that for a reason.
Merrill mate what an awesome video again i love it. To give you an idea i upgraded from the go find to the manticore and i know its a big step and let me tell you i have the same as you do in you ny park so many signals but i am determined to learn and i will put in the hours and figure this beast out. Your videos help me so much so thanks again looking forward to them mate. Greetings from the lowlands.
I sold my equinox and just bought an extra deus 2 and a big coil. My opinion the deus is the best machine for me. It does what I want, it's comfortable to use all day, and the XP ecosystem is great. Lots of accessories, headphone options, backpacks, hard cases, and 2 extra years of warranty. Oh and I love the fact I can charge it while eating lunche or driving to the next spot. 20 minutes of charge adds 2 hours of detecting time. Plus it only takes max of 3 hours to charge compared to overnight like the other good detectors require. Thanks Merrill great comparison!
Great video again , enjoyed the hunt. My Manticore should be here first week in March , won’t be digging till mid April maybe, but can get to know how to adjust for our steel core modern coins.
That was an interesting video, seems like they were matching each other in those conditions at least. Maybe once you get more proficient with the manticore you might be able to get more performance from it.
Great Video and Great finds....And this is the only way to do a true comparison taking turns hearing signals on each machine...In all fairness for this test, jeff was using the 15" coil and the manticore had the stock 11"...... Maybe when the 15" coil becomes available for the manticore, do this field test again....also i know some people dont like air tests but i think it would be worth seeing with the 15" coil on both machines
. Aha. I stand corrected.. i watched the video again and in some angles where the coil is at the edge of the screen, the fisheye effect made his coil look oval....
Prospect park was in the news about a week ago. Lady was attacked and beaten and her poor dog was killed. These are all great machines. It's taking your time and going slow. Just like the old days. Being old now has taught me that.
What a great dig in the park. Both of you did so well. The target trace and the red line were indicating iron in the early parts of your video. The target trace also gave indications of multi-targets, a problem in the urban/suburban area. Did that help at all? The 800 and probably 900 (yeah waterproofed) are probably going to be good enough for most people (along with D2 and the Legend). I keep hearing how good the Manticore does on tiny objects but it is clear it takes time to fully sync with the Manticore. I have heard that if there is an object on the center line it probably is not iron.
I think you are referring to the pinpointing of the target. Generally a good target pinpoints over where the signal hits it. If iron is the target or nail shaped iron is next to a good target it throws that pinpoint off from the line it is hitting on.
I have got Manta with 11" since this March and when I compare it with my more than five years old Equinox 800 with 15" coil, as for the performance, I can not see a big difference, however, the Manta is much more comfortable. Thanks for your video from NYC's park.
I just picked up the Nox and I finally got a little time on it. I found a merc dine yesterday. First silver with the nox yaay. My question. Is what's Jeff's settings on his Nox? I believe it might be all metal but would be interested to know exactly. I run the 600 so maybe his settings might be out of range for me but getting close would be great. Thanks great video I'm learning the machine and so far love it!!!
Yes, another great day for coins, and again Merrill, you are the king of the Mercs! I love the coinage guys and the laughs, thank you Merrill! I had a blast...Oooops! the rosy dime was a 1954, not 1964, don't sale yourself short big guy. Egg out!
Recently purchased a Xterra pro....I've noticed it's a lot easier to use with the notch on as well. Too many signals to listen to without it. The depth is every bit as good as an equinox 600
I bought a Manticore last year and sold it, liked my Deus ll much more, just because of the versatility and ease of use. I also think the Deus ll goes deeper
If thats the worse traffic in NYC is still light years ahead of Toronto (at times) ive been stuck in rush hour traffic in Toronto for hours before to drive like 20 minutes,I sent a picture to my discord friends and someone literally ask if they are evacuating a hurricane lmao They say Toronto is an hours drive from Toronto
Nice to hear an honest opinion. I have 2 Nox 800s one for each arm!😊 and I know how to set them up for various soil conditions. I also use the D1 and D2. The D2 gets most use because it is SMF and lighter than the Nox. But I am still comparing the D2 to the Nox and will be using the Nox again due to its superior EMI cancelling ability using the Manual mode. The Nox has 19 small frequency shifts, the D2 only 7 which is nowhere near enough.
Update: I found more this weekend on land with the Nox 800 and the small elliptical Coiltek coil than with the D2. I will be using the Nox again on the next dig which is going to be in the best part of England for MD finds. If I don’t get lucky I will swap to the D1 then D2.
This is such crap, RUclips is horrible about notices for content from people i follow! I’m slaving away today sheet rocking and fixing and bam here it is! The video that I’ll watch / listen to at least twice while I bring it home today! Wooohoooo! Thanks Merrill and the Gang!
Hi Merrill, greetings from the UK :) I would like to ask you about your honest opinion on the ( not mainstream known ) Nexus Metal Detectors, I personally had never heard of this Brand / Company before, but was very impressed by these machines capabilities at separation & depth in recent videos I watched. It just got me thinking why these machines are in some eyes, classed as old hat technology! when in actual fact these machines are still relevant today!. All The Best :)
Been out of the game for a long while now. Got your Manticore guide and watched a bunch of your videos. Would you say it would be an upgrade on my old Etrac and Excal? Mainly hunting farms out east and some beaches.
I owned the Etrac. What you will notice is a huge upgrade in speed and operation in space (close targets no problem) you will also have a fast learning curve because the mask is the next generation of the Etrac. You will also see that it’s great in sections where there is a lot of EMI. You will get a little more depth, especially on small items. For beaches I have heard great things about the excal but I’ve never used it. Having that said I know of 2 excal users who prefer the manticore in the wet, but still prefer excal in the water.
I was in all metal for the unproductive part of the day and the standard (pre set) ferrous limits later on. I moved the recovery speed to 3 as time went on.
It may not be too far in the distant future when Metal Detectors will feature stereo audio and the different tones can be mixed for R ear versus L ear to enhance Audio Identification of targets.
Great, informative video..thanks! I,m still on the fence about the manticore (use and love my nox 800). In these high target areas would it help to use the small "sniper coil"?
Great hunt! It was also great that you had Jeff there with the 800 to confirm what you were struggling to infer with the Maniticore. I have to tell you that I have yet to be convinced the Manticore is worth the extra cost compared to the 800. A friend of mine tried the Manticore and the 900 recently and he sold them only to go back to the 800. Oh, and he tried the Deus 1 and Deus 2 with the same results.
When you become proficient with a machine, it's hard to let it go, especially when it works! People said the same about the E-trac and CTX ....and yes they were good......but they were surpassed by the Equinox. Remember now, the Nox had issues with iron more so until the Fe 2 update came along. Also keep in mind, the Manticore has an update coming in near future. Having the Manticore in had now made my Nox feel primitive in comparison. The screen quality & menu layout is awesome! The construction is 100% better too! The coil isn't going to fling off & it's likely waterproof in comparison to that of the Nox. I'm not bashing the Equinox because we all know it's good but, Minelab has clearly made a better machine now............... The D2 is something special! I'll take that over the Nox all day but, that's my opinion!
@@bkjustice9390 Recovery speed! The Equinox performs better in iron infested sites. FBS detectors (CTX & E-trac) have a slower recovery speed in comparison to Multi-IQ. That's no secret! Don't get me wrong, the E-trac is still a good machine but, the Nox has the edge in that dept........I had the E-trac & used it for many years with great success but, The Equinox is better in my opinion when it comes to iron infested sites. First was BBS tech, then FBS to the now, faster response multi- IQ,......The tech simply has evolved just like everything else.
I enjoyed the video. My White's VX3/DFX 300 detectors are getting a little long in the tooth. Since White's is now defunct, I'm thinking of replacing those detectors with an Equinox. My main concern is with battery longevity and battery replacement on the Equinox. What is the lifespan of the rechargeable battery and can it be replaced by the user? Battery charging issues and complexity have steered me away from considering a Deus.
Merrill, I have a beef with you although I’m a huge fan of your channel. I have the CTX and have seen you bad mouth it in a number of your videos. I also have the Deus 2 and several other detectors including the Nox 800 so not really a newbie. I haven’t bought a Manticore because from everything I have seen it’s the love child of the CTX and the NOX. A CTX with a much faster processor, lighter weight and brings the best of the nox to add to the CTXs phenomenal capabilities . The CTX, I believe has better inferences from its target trace etc but then the Manticore’s target trace iteration is quite intriguing . The center line on the Manticore appears to be a slightly more refined version of the algorithm of the 12 line on the CTX. Yeah, the CTX was ridiculous in price but I think the Deus 2 forced minelab to not gouge as much as they would have if the Deus had not beaten them to market. I’ll never forgive minelab for not pushing updates (not a single one that I know of), when the were obviously improving the algorithm for presenting target trace and VID. Thanks for the opportunity to vent but stop bashing the CTX. Minelab has been forced to shoot themselves in the foot with pricing and that’s sweet revenge as far as I’m concerned. The CTX rocks but the marketing/PR people at Minelab utterly fumbled and stepped on themselves in handling their product lines. Again thanks for what you do. Norm
I consider myself an expert with the Equinox 800 - dug over 900 silver coins in 3 years in an area (Western NY) wear most dig less than 30 per year. From what you have shown, I believe the Manticore will allow me to keep that pace in areas that have been hammered much like Prospect Park. Thanks for all the help!!! KellyCo just notified me that a shipment is coming early next week so I may have one soon! HH
I was tickled pink to find a '46 quarter last week. The slq would be a dream, beautiful coin. Do you have to mute the Manticore when you turn on the pinpointer? It drives my Simplex crazy.
It's hard to judge a detector if you dig 5 silvers. If you hunted with a radio shack machine and came back with 5 silvers you will find good things to say about it. Sometimes you have to walk over a target at a certain angle to grab your attention enough to investigate whether to dig or not. That could be why nobody has hit the 2 inch silver coin and how he hit that deep piece of lead shot. I'm just curious to which frequencies the machine is using under high conductivity targets. I'm sure 1 is it's lowest but the other? I say/ask this because you mentioned not getting maybe low tones. Had you been in a gold mode you would've dug smaller targets but maybe not so deep on the coins because it runs with a higher frequency. I know that the 3 kHz and 15 kHz are a good dual frequency split for all metals or the 5kHz and 15 kHz is good which Fishers CZ-21 uses. But I noticed the dedicated gold machines that have been successful run anywhere from 28 kHz to some that use a 40 kHz and it's a single dedicated frequency. I have NOT used Minelabs (for personal reasons) so I am not familiar which 2 frequencies they use in which modes so I was just wondering it being you mentioned not finding low conductors. You guys dug Indians, Wheats, silver Roosies, Mercs, Washingtons & an SLQ (congratulations on that one BTW) but did either of you pull a "V" or a Buffalo? You would think there would be a nickel or two being you guys were pulling a variety of ironically "high conductor" coins. Can you choose the 2 frequencies out of the number it has. I think Legend allows it and possibly the Deus 2 IDK you probably can answer that. For the heck of it the next time you hit that park again if it allows maybe give it a shot with one of the frequencies it's processing be between the 7 kHz to 15 kHz with the second being it's lowest (maybe 1.5 kHz to 3 kHz I don't know what Minelabs high conductive frequency is they use I thought I read that the CTX uses the low 1.5 kHz which was part of a falsing problem it supposedly has. It's just a suggestion. The old nickels are OK to find although they don't look so good and of coarse the silver is nicer to find but i'm thinking more towards the line about finding the small gold rings or pins. Now I just thought of something were you digging everything or ignoring small numbers thinking about aluminum using high conductor because maybe those signals might have been the low conductive targets that you were curious about. Is it possible you thought it might have been a pull tab being the VDI number was in a PT but it might've been that nickel or something? Maybe this is my OCD over thinking it there lol. Well at least you got what you were shooting for so that made a successful day there nickels or not. Nice hunt congrats to both of you
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I think that the key point that this video highlights might just be that 99% of finds are in the range of both detectors. The 1% that are just a little deeper or harder to detect might just be where the manticore shines. For most of us, the price isn't worth that 1%.
Point to note also... Now there are multiple versions of the nox, you'll need to be more specific about which you are comparing. Do they all have the same detection power but different features? I'm lost on that part (as a Nokta guy I stopped paying attention!)
Equinox vs Manticore comparison
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@@tomelner manticore goes to 11, it's the sustain, now don't even look at it . Nigel.
Thanks for your honest review. That's why I watch you. I lived in NH and MA for 20+ years and metal detected there Lots. Now I am in AZ and to old to detect. Thanks too you guys that post on RUclips I detect thru you.
Merrill, in heavy iron increase your recovery speed or slow down your swing to get better separation. It's amazing that you can go back to heavily hunted areas and still pull out silver!
As Jeff showed us, you must pinpoint first, then you can see what the detector is reading.
Do you remember starting with the Nox-600? If you immediately started with 50-tones and all-metal you were overwhelmed and you dug far too much trash as a result.
notice how the well hammered old NYC park yielded much more silver and pennies, than the virgin previously undetected PA. farm trip ? Pa. farmers didn't drop a lot of coins. Kids would go unfed. When a nickel was lost during 1930s Great Depression on a farm, it better damn well be found, or someone got their butt kicked. A nickel meant a loaf of bread for big family 5-10 or more kids.
Merrill you are a very good investigative reporter. Great job at keeping us in the know! 😊
i agree,
Merrill,
One other comment. You are a funny guy. Gut humor is timing. You really have improved at timing your humor. It comes off as funnier and is a nice break from the hunting. The bit you did with the glasses was hilarious.
Bill
With a Minelab Manticore you can go back to all the fields that you’ve searched before…. Amazing machine! 👌
Merrill you were born to teach. Thank you for your videos!
I found this post today worth noting:
"The problem was recovery speed. the game has changed where I live. If you want to find old coins you need to hunt iron that people ran from in past."
underlying issue ? people don't drop pre-1964 silver, pre-1933 gold coins anymore. only so many in ground, and less and less in ground daily, as areas get pounded by detectorists, and more recovered. we're going into era of digging every hit in hopes of finding coins.
flipside is, where Merrill detects old NYC beaches, will always be best spot. seaside changes daily, relics and coins wash up from offshore, replenishing it. IMHO, he has best metal detecting area in country. it's like people are still dropping silver, gold there, the ocean washes in old stuff from ages ago. detecting is hobby of diminishing returns, unless there's new ground under your feet constantly. there's only so much down there, they stopped making it, a wasting asset just like mining anything else. Merrill has the most productive mine.
awesome vid Merrill, now you're focused on screen, and loaded for bear 🐻 on device settings... settled to your work, calm calculated detecting...I've seen this phenom before, heavily hunted areas will still yield dimes, pennies....the cheaper detectors, less experienced operators, will miss the small coins...and grab the quarters and larger first- leaving behind straggler dimes, pennies for the determined to find...those quarters are an amazing outlier for a hunted spot! iron trash camouflage was hiding them. just like deer hunting, you also need LUCK! when a big buck walks by at oddball location, you still must be able to take/make the shot. you have a WINGMAN...behind every Ace pilot, is a great wingman. I've found many bullets, ever wonder who fired them at what, why ? lol. SUPERB VIDEO 👍
Lol. I was thinking the same thing today. I am wearing my glasses out on the next hunt...
yep! Its time!
Awesome day Merril. I'd love to come and hunt with you in NY and make a video
still waiting on my Manticore thanks for all the hard work you and Jeff do to help us .
now you're progressing from axe wielding barbarian, to technician, to master detecting artist. an ace. it's all about intuition, thinking outside the box, knowing your machine. an ace shoots down all targets in the area, before departing. the bloody red baron 🥓
I've been waiting for the Equinox vs. Manticore videos, and now they start arriving! Great stuff, and I wish I could put an extra "like" on this video for Jeff being in it! The two of you are just the most amazing metal detecting duo, and I always wish the videos with the two of you in it were at least twice the length! :D
Great hunt Merrill. Just got my Manticore, will be at that park tomorrow testing it out.
Thanks for the comparison video.
Keep up the good work 👍
I recently found a 1945 silver 1/4 which was quite a suprise as I'm in New Zealand 🇳🇿 😳
I have had my 900 for three weeks now and totally amazed with it. I also have the Deus to and when I use the Deus to find a lot of good stuff I’m gonna come back over the same area with a 900 I find even more they are a great one to punch. There’s no doubt in my mind beside the screen and the headphones on the manticore the 900 is just as good no need to spend the extra money.
Awesome video as always brother .love your stuff .with all your help we wont be in the dark anymore about how stuff realy go down .hope you gona be on til we like 85 years old .thanks for all the work you do ring master!
At the 4:20 minute mark, that's classic Minelab tech. The bouncing around, the trace appearing. The one thing the CTX handled really well is the ID - well enough that you could do a lot of the inference right from the screen, and depending on how you configured it, also from the sound. The technique of orienting the coil in a manner to chase out a signals signature has been possible with much older machines. Never 100% reliably though, as even machines I've been using for over 10 years, using similar methods to sniff out bottlecaps, have always been that guessed target. Any bend in even silver coins would cause the same iron grunt or visualization. I feel like the Equinox expanded both the VDI and tonal feedback ranges to cause us to dig more. I too have benefited from the unmasking, but feel a lot of it is way overhyped, and I'd trade the accuracy of the CTX ID over the wide ranges of the Equinox. There's no reason here in Canada a large cent should ring in on the same VDI range as iron, but that's what happens with the Equinox. And it's because certain large cents here used bronze, and not always copper. It's this need to adjust to the machine which has made me less of a believer in the hype of the Nox, because I have older machines that are much better dialed into the VDI and tones than the Equinox can ever achieve. With the added upside that none of those older machines have EMI sensitivity issues where I find myself needing to switch to single frequency on the Nox to stabilize it at locations where old sites I had no issues with EMI, suddenly became issues for EMI when using the "multi-frequency." Sorry for the long rant, but this is a meta topic for me, I'm still trying to get my hands on a Mantictore, but will provide feedback on that when I do. Great video Merrill!
Great video. This is the best way to test! Air tests, or putting things on the ground with the coil up in the air really isn't telling you much. I'd love to do more coin detecting content on my channel but we can't dig with shovels, unless you get permission to do a private farm or something.
Great video 800 still gets it but the separation in the Core is what they say...fantastic.
It sure is fast.
That one item looked like a key for an old watch Timepiece.
Great video Merrill . Keep them coming 😄
A great video for sure Mr Merell, love that face pin!, great stuff!, God all my life i,ve been wanting to find a standing liberty quarter but to no avile, any way , would love to see a beach detecting video ( in the water video) with you and your friends to see how it works in the water.
Awesome job Merrill!
Great hunt, and it was fun and informative watching you and Jeff work together with two great machines.
Awesome video and also so awesome finds a good day in the park. 🙂
Can't wait to see it with the big coil too...That might be revealing..
Merrrill, really well done video. Yoiu structured it very well and Jeff fit in seamlessly.
I do think that there is interest in comparing the Manticore to the Deus II as opposed to the Equinox. Perhaps at some point you could bring your Deus II and hand off the Manticore to Jeff. That would be a fund video to watch.
Bill
Thanks for posting this dual detector hunt. I think you're on the brink of enlightenment with the manticore.
What Merrill is not putting in consideration to his viewers , is that the Manticore can reach better depths due to the fact it's sensitivity can reach much higher levels. Of coarse that's when conditions allow for it. The Nox maxes out at 25. The Manticore can reach 35.
@@carlfr2977 That opinion still is yet to be verified & proved. Hopefully it does have that extra depth sensitivity, although sensitivity isn't the same thing as power output into the ground. 🙏🏻
@@jimcollins9999 I believe it's true! I mean that's why Minelab calls it the beast mode. When opportunity allows it, it should grab a deeper target better than having a lowered sensitivity. Yes, we need to see more reports. Plus, wait until we see the new update on it. Minelab may seriously improve this machine even better! We'll see?
@@carlfr2977 I hope so! That's what Merrill is trying to find out by recording these videos, and comparative reviews, along side the Nox800. The answers come over time. 👍
@@jimcollins9999 I'm sure it's not all the reason too but, it certainly aids it. No other Minelab detector has the scale of up to 35. I'd call it a boost mode in my opinion.... So far I can't bring it past 25 without some eratic reaction ......Minelab says that you enter beast mode after #26 though. They call it that for a reason.
Pounded park and still smashing silvers nice work Merrill
Thank you!
You are really making some awesome videos!!!!! Thanks
I notched out high 90s to stop the iron chirping
Merrill mate what an awesome video again i love it. To give you an idea i upgraded from the go find to the manticore and i know its a big step and let me tell you i have the same as you do in you ny park so many signals but i am determined to learn and i will put in the hours and figure this beast out. Your videos help me so much so thanks again looking forward to them mate. Greetings from the lowlands.
I sold my equinox and just bought an extra deus 2 and a big coil. My opinion the deus is the best machine for me. It does what I want, it's comfortable to use all day, and the XP ecosystem is great. Lots of accessories, headphone options, backpacks, hard cases, and 2 extra years of warranty.
Oh and I love the fact I can charge it while eating lunche or driving to the next spot. 20 minutes of charge adds 2 hours of detecting time. Plus it only takes max of 3 hours to charge compared to overnight like the other good detectors require.
Thanks Merrill great comparison!
D2 is a solid machine all around. It's a dang good performer in iron infested sites too!
Great video! Thanks to both of you!! Congrats on the SLQ that is awesome!
Great side by side run through the park 👍👍
Great video again , enjoyed the hunt. My Manticore should be here first week in March , won’t be digging till mid April maybe, but can get to know how to adjust for our steel core modern coins.
That was an interesting video, seems like they were matching each other in those conditions at least. Maybe once you get more proficient with the manticore you might be able to get more performance from it.
Great Video and Great finds....And this is the only way to do a true comparison taking turns hearing signals on each machine...In all fairness for this test, jeff was using the 15" coil and the manticore had the stock 11"...... Maybe when the 15" coil becomes available for the manticore, do this field test again....also i know some people dont like air tests but i think it would be worth seeing with the 15" coil on both machines
Jeff was using the standard coil.
. Aha. I stand corrected.. i watched the video again and in some angles where the coil is at the edge of the screen, the fisheye effect made his coil look oval....
Glad to hear connery’s voice living on in this channel haha
Yesh Shir!!!
Awesome video Merrill, thank you
Thank you Darrell
Great hunt! Thanks for sharing.
Great vid as always 😁 keep up the good work, I look forward to more info on the Manticore 😊 HH Merrill 😀 and take care 🙂
Prospect park was in the news about a week ago. Lady was attacked and beaten and her poor dog was killed. These are all great machines. It's taking your time and going slow. Just like the old days. Being old now has taught me that.
Great Video
I bought the 900 today...
Im going from a Whites dfx to an Minelab Equinox 900...
I hope i like it...
What a great dig in the park. Both of you did so well. The target trace and the red line were indicating iron in the early parts of your video. The target trace also gave indications of multi-targets, a problem in the urban/suburban area. Did that help at all? The 800 and probably 900 (yeah waterproofed) are probably going to be good enough for most people (along with D2 and the Legend). I keep hearing how good the Manticore does on tiny objects but it is clear it takes time to fully sync with the Manticore. I have heard that if there is an object on the center line it probably is not iron.
I think you are referring to the pinpointing of the target. Generally a good target pinpoints over where the signal hits it. If iron is the target or nail shaped iron is next to a good target it throws that pinpoint off from the line it is hitting on.
Love the comparison videos! Cool finds too. I wish I could find silver like you always do.
I have got Manta with 11" since this March and when I compare it with my more than five years old Equinox 800 with 15" coil, as for the performance, I can not see a big difference, however, the Manta is much more comfortable. Thanks for your video from NYC's park.
I just picked up the Nox and I finally got a little time on it. I found a merc dine yesterday. First silver with the nox yaay. My question. Is what's Jeff's settings on his Nox? I believe it might be all metal but would be interested to know exactly. I run the 600 so maybe his settings might be out of range for me but getting close would be great. Thanks great video I'm learning the machine and so far love it!!!
Good job fun club! Well done guys!!!
Really fun hunt and solid Sean Connery impressions. “Well dun shur…well dun!”
Yes, another great day for coins, and again Merrill, you are the king of the Mercs! I love the coinage guys and the laughs, thank you Merrill! I had a blast...Oooops! the rosy dime was a 1954, not 1964, don't sale yourself short big guy. Egg out!
Great video finding the coins was exciting....thanks
Need to try the 900 vs the Manti vs the 800....
Will be same just quicker recovery right..
Recently purchased a Xterra pro....I've noticed it's a lot easier to use with the notch on as well. Too many signals to listen to without it. The depth is every bit as good as an equinox 600
I bought a Manticore last year and sold it, liked my Deus ll much more, just because of the versatility and ease of use. I also think the Deus ll goes deeper
great video, thanks for sharing!
Very nice comparison between an ox and a manticore, I like the manticore for the screen Id and it’s on my bucket list
I'm staying with my 800 over the Manticore and the Deus 2 for the time being. I am watch for used 800s to come up for sale at a cheap price.
Nice work gents!!!!
A great hunt!! lots of "Shilver" Mr. Bond!
Ever heard Ultravox (not Equinox) "The Voice"? Has metal detecting lyrics. "In strong low tones....."
Awesome hunt and finds!! good job I enjoyed your video and good luck to you.
I’ve never heard of that machine. I loved my Quick Silver.
If thats the worse traffic in NYC is still light years ahead of Toronto (at times) ive been stuck in rush hour traffic in Toronto for hours before to drive like 20 minutes,I sent a picture to my discord friends and someone literally ask if they are evacuating a hurricane lmao
They say Toronto is an hours drive from Toronto
Like 25 😉 looks like both are good and the manticore should pin point it more ... experience is key i assume with both
Wow you guys did good in prospect 🕳️not so easy to do but then again it’s Deadpool Jeff and M🦡the awesomeness 🔥👍🫡
If you get a signal you are very confident about you could call it a "Gwen Stefani" AKA "No Doubt"😁
Nice to hear an honest opinion. I have 2 Nox 800s one for each arm!😊 and I know how to set them up for various soil conditions. I also use the D1 and D2. The D2 gets most use because it is SMF and lighter than the Nox. But I am still comparing the D2 to the Nox and will be using the Nox again due to its superior EMI cancelling ability using the Manual mode. The Nox has 19 small frequency shifts, the D2 only 7 which is nowhere near enough.
I tried to rig one up to my pet bobcat but she panicked and ran away with the coil.
Update: I found more this weekend on land with the Nox 800 and the small elliptical Coiltek coil than with the D2. I will be using the Nox again on the next dig which is going to be in the best part of England for MD finds. If I don’t get lucky I will swap to the D1 then D2.
By d2 you mean deus 2???
This is such crap, RUclips is horrible about notices for content from people i follow! I’m slaving away today sheet rocking and fixing and bam here it is! The video that I’ll watch / listen to at least twice while I bring it home today! Wooohoooo! Thanks Merrill and the Gang!
You had a 5 silver day!! Congrats!! Im having a bit of a silver drought over here. Happy hunting
You are due!!! Keep digging!!!
You had to eat Crow neener, neener, neener...lol 🤣
Hi Merrill, greetings from the UK :) I would like to ask you about your honest opinion on the ( not mainstream known ) Nexus Metal Detectors, I personally had never heard of this Brand / Company before, but was very impressed by these machines capabilities at separation & depth in recent videos I watched. It just got me thinking why these machines are in some eyes, classed as old hat technology! when in actual fact these machines are still relevant today!. All The Best :)
I can’t wait to try one. I’m due to receive mine in late July
@@MetalDetectingNYC Sweet!...can I ask which machine you chose sir
Great hunt man. Take care!
Been out of the game for a long while now. Got your Manticore guide and watched a bunch of your videos. Would you say it would be an upgrade on my old Etrac and Excal? Mainly hunting farms out east and some beaches.
I owned the Etrac. What you will notice is a huge upgrade in speed and operation in space (close targets no problem) you will also have a fast learning curve because the mask is the next generation of the Etrac. You will also see that it’s great in sections where there is a lot of EMI. You will get a little more depth, especially on small items. For beaches I have heard great things about the excal but I’ve never used it. Having that said I know of 2 excal users who prefer the manticore in the wet, but still prefer excal in the water.
Thank You!@@MetalDetectingNYC
Hey hey you're back swinging 😄
Great video, Can I ask what were your upper and lower ferrous limits and what recovery speed were you running? Keepem coming....
I was in all metal for the unproductive part of the day and the standard (pre set) ferrous limits later on. I moved the recovery speed to 3 as time went on.
Good review
It may not be too far in the distant future when Metal Detectors will feature stereo audio and the different tones can be mixed for R ear versus L ear to enhance Audio Identification of targets.
Whites Spectra V3i !!! Old , super !
I really enjoy your videos.
Thank you
Great, informative video..thanks! I,m still on the fence about the manticore (use and love my nox 800). In these high target areas would it help to use the small "sniper coil"?
Yes in the real crowded areas.
Great hunt! It was also great that you had Jeff there with the 800 to confirm what you were struggling to infer with the Maniticore. I have to tell you that I have yet to be convinced the Manticore is worth the extra cost compared to the 800. A friend of mine tried the Manticore and the 900 recently and he sold them only to go back to the 800. Oh, and he tried the Deus 1 and Deus 2 with the same results.
ANY new rig is going to have to be a LOT better than the 800 before I'd even consider it considering the ridiculous prices charged.
@@mortonyakimadetectingthepa9015 Agreed!!!
When you become proficient with a machine, it's hard to let it go, especially when it works! People said the same about the E-trac and CTX ....and yes they were good......but they were surpassed by the Equinox. Remember now, the Nox had issues with iron more so until the Fe 2 update came along. Also keep in mind, the Manticore has an update coming in near future. Having the Manticore in had now made my Nox feel primitive in comparison. The screen quality & menu layout is awesome! The construction is 100% better too! The coil isn't going to fling off & it's likely waterproof in comparison to that of the Nox. I'm not bashing the Equinox because we all know it's good but, Minelab has clearly made a better machine now............... The D2 is something special! I'll take that over the Nox all day but, that's my opinion!
@@carlfr2977 You say the Etrac was surpassed by the Nox. In which ways do you feel so other than weight?
@@bkjustice9390 Recovery speed! The Equinox performs better in iron infested sites. FBS detectors (CTX & E-trac) have a slower recovery speed in comparison to Multi-IQ. That's no secret! Don't get me wrong, the E-trac is still a good machine but, the Nox has the edge in that dept........I had the E-trac & used it for many years with great success but, The Equinox is better in my opinion when it comes to iron infested sites. First was BBS tech, then FBS to the now, faster response multi- IQ,......The tech simply has evolved just like everything else.
Not ready to splurge yet, but please keep the T&E going for us. I trust your conclusions
Awesome video man!
You fella's had a great day finding all that Silver,Wheats and Indians !!!
I enjoyed the video. My White's VX3/DFX 300 detectors are getting a little long in the tooth. Since White's is now defunct, I'm thinking of replacing those detectors with an Equinox. My main concern is with battery longevity and battery replacement on the Equinox. What is the lifespan of the rechargeable battery and can it be replaced by the user? Battery charging issues and complexity have steered me away from considering a Deus.
Might find Jimmy Hoffa...lol. Got some very interesting finds guys...I used to live in Elmont, Queens...don't miss it either..lol. Thanks..
Interesting comparison and feedback...
That murk is gorgeous
Thank you!
@@MetalDetectingNYC sweet find and AUsome videos ! That’s for posting!
I'm getting a equinox 900 ❤. I'm scared of getting my gpx4500 wet and Sandy. I'm saving it for Kalgoorlie.
Merrill, I have a beef with you although I’m a huge fan of your channel. I have the CTX and have seen you bad mouth it in a number of your videos. I also have the Deus 2 and several other detectors including the Nox 800 so not really a newbie. I haven’t bought a Manticore because from everything I have seen it’s the love child of the CTX and the NOX. A CTX with a much faster processor, lighter weight and brings the best of the nox to add to the CTXs phenomenal capabilities . The CTX, I believe has better inferences from its target trace etc but then the Manticore’s target trace iteration is quite intriguing . The center line on the Manticore appears to be a slightly more refined version of the algorithm of the 12 line on the CTX. Yeah, the CTX was ridiculous in price but I think the Deus 2 forced minelab to not gouge as much as they would have if the Deus had not beaten them to market. I’ll never forgive minelab for not pushing updates (not a single one that I know of), when the were obviously improving the algorithm for presenting target trace and VID. Thanks for the opportunity to vent but stop bashing the CTX. Minelab has been forced to shoot themselves in the foot with pricing and that’s sweet revenge as far as I’m concerned. The CTX rocks but the marketing/PR people at Minelab utterly fumbled and stepped on themselves in handling their product lines. Again thanks for what you do. Norm
I consider myself an expert with the Equinox 800 - dug over 900 silver coins in 3 years in an area (Western NY) wear most dig less than 30 per year. From what you have shown, I believe the Manticore will allow me to keep that pace in areas that have been hammered much like Prospect Park. Thanks for all the help!!! KellyCo just notified me that a shipment is coming early next week so I may have one soon! HH
The pin is likely Art Nouveau popular between 1890 and 1910.
I was tickled pink to find a '46 quarter last week. The slq would be a dream, beautiful coin. Do you have to mute the Manticore when you turn on the pinpointer? It drives my Simplex crazy.
No, manticore is fine with pinpointer on
It's hard to judge a detector if you dig 5 silvers. If you hunted with a radio shack machine and came back with 5 silvers you will find good things to say about it. Sometimes you have to walk over a target at a certain angle to grab your attention enough to investigate whether to dig or not. That could be why nobody has hit the 2 inch silver coin and how he hit that deep piece of lead shot. I'm just curious to which frequencies the machine is using under high conductivity targets. I'm sure 1 is it's lowest but the other? I say/ask this because you mentioned not getting maybe low tones. Had you been in a gold mode you would've dug smaller targets but maybe not so deep on the coins because it runs with a higher frequency. I know that the 3 kHz and 15 kHz are a good dual frequency split for all metals or the 5kHz and 15 kHz is good which Fishers CZ-21 uses. But I noticed the dedicated gold machines that have been successful run anywhere from 28 kHz to some that use a 40 kHz and it's a single dedicated frequency. I have NOT used Minelabs (for personal reasons) so I am not familiar which 2 frequencies they use in which modes so I was just wondering it being you mentioned not finding low conductors. You guys dug Indians, Wheats, silver Roosies, Mercs, Washingtons & an SLQ (congratulations on that one BTW) but did either of you pull a "V" or a Buffalo? You would think there would be a nickel or two being you guys were pulling a variety of ironically "high conductor" coins. Can you choose the 2 frequencies out of the number it has. I think Legend allows it and possibly the Deus 2 IDK you probably can answer that. For the heck of it the next time you hit that park again if it allows maybe give it a shot with one of the frequencies it's processing be between the 7 kHz to 15 kHz with the second being it's lowest (maybe 1.5 kHz to 3 kHz I don't know what Minelabs high conductive frequency is they use I thought I read that the CTX uses the low 1.5 kHz which was part of a falsing problem it supposedly has. It's just a suggestion. The old nickels are OK to find although they don't look so good and of coarse the silver is nicer to find but i'm thinking more towards the line about finding the small gold rings or pins. Now I just thought of something were you digging everything or ignoring small numbers thinking about aluminum using high conductor because maybe those signals might have been the low conductive targets that you were curious about. Is it possible you thought it might have been a pull tab being the VDI number was in a PT but it might've been that nickel or something? Maybe this is my OCD over thinking it there lol. Well at least you got what you were shooting for so that made a successful day there nickels or not.
Nice hunt congrats to both of you
Love those Mercury Dimes!
Would you benefit from the 6" coil at that site? It is so busy with targets.