Stay-Brite 8 HVAC Soldering - How strong is it?! - Short Video
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- This video takes the quicker look at soldering an HVAC copper liquid line, evaluating the solder joint and then seeing if we can make it fail (no pressure testing here)! If you are interested in more details and commentary on what we did here, then feel free to watch the same video edited down and called "Stay-Brite 8 HVAC Soldering - How strong is it?! - Long Video" Enjoy!
Harris Solder Kit SB861 & SCPF4 - Stay-Brite #8 Silver Bearing Solder with Flux:
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I always use SB8 whenever possible, especially on new installs. I have been using it for years and to date have never had a failure.
Good information to hear! Thank you for sharing. -Dutch
Both informative and entertaining! 👊🏼 sb8 for the win
Hi I'm in ctp were can I purchase 1
It’s so much easier. Brazing has its place, but for residential systems, SB8 all the way. I’m a DIY’er with properties and use SB8 on all my systems.
Couldn't agree more! Thanks for watching and for the feedback. -Dutch
I was skeptical about this product… I need to do a reverse valve on a hard to reach area… might gobthis route
I know what you mean! I had to "give it a try" for my diy HVAC project. If you watch my other HVAC videos I show the soldering in of the line filter and the low and high pressure lines. That was done back on August of last year (2023) and the solder joints have held just fine! Thanks for watching the video. -Dutch
It was a too much heat. Some 4-5 seconds are enough
Yes, totally agree. Was my first time soldering! :)
Great Demo !!
Dude, You are over Heat the joint 😮😢
Literally my first time soldering. Good thing I didn't title it "Best Way To Solder" 😂Appreciate the feedback. -Dutch
ok, so a few observations: 1. did you use a standard plumbing elbow, or was this a copper refrigerant elbow? 2. you do realize that that this level of heat applied to the elbow effectively anneals the copper elbow, resulting in it becoming very soft, correct? 3. even though you were able to completely deform the elbow without an obvious break in the the SB8 solder, you are not providing any evidence in the form of a pressure test that the solder joint did not, in fact, fail. just because the elbow did not turn does not mean that the joint did not fail. 4. solder of any kind will not build thickness like braze will, so unless the fittings are snug to begin with, solder should not be used.
Hello and thank you for your thoughts. The video's purpose was strictly to show the binding strength of SB8. I will disagree with you on one point and that is your thickness point. Thickness in brazing does not also mean pressure confirmation or strength. Both means of joining require a pressure test and I believe I even mention that in the video (maybe the long video is where I state that). I do appreciate your observations and in taking the time to share things that should be considered in these types of joining. Cheers! -Dutch
Can you use this on plumbing as well, like for a water heater connection?
Hello! My initial guess would that it could. I believe Staybrite solder is lead-free (which is what you want for water lines) and household water pressure is significantly less than refrigerant systems. I would do some research before diving in feet first. Google "Stay-Brite8 soldering copper water lines." See if that can get you started. Good luck! -Dutch
Sure you can, but a "kit" i.e. - 1 lb roll of Stay-brite #8 and the flux for it, will set you back about $100.
WAS FLUX USED, ANY CLEANER, ONLY SANDING?? MINE FLOWS LIKE WATER (TOO HOT?) AFTER REPEATED TRIES JOINT WORKED APART WITH MY HANDS THE SOLDER WAS ONLY AROUND THE EDGES ( THE FITTING WAS VERY TIGHT)? REMEDY??
Hello! I used scotch brite pads to brush up both sides of the pipe and then cleaned with 100% isopropyl alcohol. Added flux, pushed together and hit with heat and then solder to flow in. Also, make sure you do not use too much flux. Just a light brushing of it to both surfaces. If you use to much, it is possible you'll flow your solder right through the joint and have little bonding. -Dutch
@@dutchmenmodsandrepairs1427 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROMPT , DETAILED REPLY !!!!
You probably roasted the flux out of the joint by getting it far too hot.
What are you using. Staybrite #8 with stay flux acid? Other than that your gonna have alot of issues. 😅. And he also used to much heat. Should also only use the length of solder equivalent to the size of pipe your soldering together. So 3/8 liquid line joint only needs 3/8 inches of solder to fill said joint. Try a good map gas torch with the yellow map gas bottle. More than enough heat to do the job. 😅
@@zackaryhall1271 appreciate the feedback. This was my first attempt soldering. Totally agree with you input! -Dutch
Part number for staybrite
Great question! I didn't have it in my video description and I apologize! Thank you for keeping me honest. I added it to the video description and here as well. Thank you for watching the video.- Dutch www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0799NVB4Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
surgery was a success but the patient didn't make it. either way can be done wrong that's for sure. i'll give the solder a go
Good luck! -Dutch
@@dutchmenmodsandrepairs1427 I didn't realize solder was given such a bad name. Elitist brazing folks didn't know cherry red on the pipe may not be so good, hurting a txv or valve is no bueno. Or burning right through.
way to much flux
I would agree. First time doing it, so I will cut myself some slack. Appreciate you watching the video. -Dutch