Full Air Conditioner Replacement Using Stay Brite 8 Solder!
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00:00 Introduction
00:18 Removing old condenser
02:14 Removing old evaporator coil
02:51 Prepping copper lineset
04:32 Soldering copper lines using Staybrite 8
05:54 Sponsor Mention -Ecoflow
09:10 Electrical connections at condenser
10:17 New evaporator coil installation
10:50 Building sheet metal transition
17:44 Soldering copper lines at evaporator coil
19:55 Nitrogen Pressure Test
23:59 Pulling Vacuum
29:08 Introducing refrigerant
31:12 Fist System Startup
32:28 Adding Refrigerant
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To everyone who thinks this guy is knowledgeable. He has his particular methods which are customizable depending on the service technician. As a seasoned HVAC professional with over 20 plus years, I would not recommend staybrite 8 on a 410a system due to its low melting point not strength. However should you choose to use it, mistake on line set at unit was not removing Schrader cores as nylon seals could melt and cause a leak also better to wrap valves just for same reason. Granted he is skilled but not everyone has the same skill soldering. Also he never mentioned doing an R-11 clean out flush on line sets to remove oil since R22 and R410a use different oil types that are incapable. A vacuum will not remove these oils.
On the transition, you do not need to use metal duct, a faster and cheaper method is to use fiberglass duct board and silver foil tape. Works better and provides less noise and better insulation. Also he never added a heat block when soldering inside line set or mentioned one for rubber gaskets on coil plate. Also never mentioned that standard systems don’t use a TXV and use a fixed orifice. When placing the coil on top of the unit, you do not need to caulk it, use the same foil tape to tape around the seam of the coil and unit, it’s a better air seal and less messy then silicone caulk. Everything this tech tells you, take with a grain of salt, as he lacks experience, he has the basics down, but is still learning.
Awesome video Dave. Thank you!
Always great get the help opportunity to hand on to learn trade 😊 Thank you 🙏 😊
@23:15 that app is awesome. I bet half the HVAC techs dont take temp changes into account when pressure testing the lines. Thanks for making all your great videos!
I'm surprised the device doesn't do that calculation for you
GREAT VIDEO!!! Thanks for taking us out in your job🔥💯🔥. Just OUTSTANDING!!! Thanks for teaching us the trade.
You bet!!
You gave me a fabulous idea. I have a 4 ton Trane slab coil that has a small leak and it is no longer manufactured so replacing it with a similar Goodman unit would require some fabrication of the transition. I cringed at the thought of using an acetelene torch on the thin copper tubimg used on the evap coil, the Stay Bright is a low temperature solder and it may be just the solution I'm looking for to repair it without causing further damage by a torch. Thanks for the video !!
so much knowledge.. thank you!
Great 35min video ❤thank you sharing your knowledge
Whating for next video 😊
Awesome video, learned alot, thanks
Great video! Appreciate you sharing this with everyone! A couple things I noticed... The incoming power to the contactor looked like it was completely missing in the middle of the black wire. At 9:55 in the video. Is that an optical illusion?
Removal of the micro vacuum meter. How do you deal with the little jet of refrigerant that comes out. And then adding back the guages when it's pressurized.
Good job well done sir 😊
I really like that the Rheem unit is easily serviceable… I hate when manufacturers makes routine preventative maintenance stupidly difficult! Just like with cars, I’ll gladly pay a bit more for a vehicle that I can actually work on! (My aunt owns a Mercedes and literally can’t do anything but inflate the tires and refuel it with Premium only… anything else is both extremely difficult and likely voids your warranty!🤦🏻♂️)
Had me screaming at you when you started that transition build. Thanks for reminding folks and add those inches for those bends folks!
doh! Won’t be the last time I goof up on that haha
Interesting, high pressure went up less than 8 psi, and subcooling temp went up 9 degrees. Wonder is something was wrong with TXV initially or temp readings were wrong. I have similar unit and temp probes take time sometimes to get correct data. This is one big fear with SMAN - get wrong reading and easy to overcharge. I attach second clamp thermometer just in case. Great video
thank you sir!
19:55 I did two AC installs and skipped this step. I only did the vacuum test to verify no leaks. It worked great. Both systems are working great.
On car systems that all I have ever done. I can see the value in pressure testing with nitrogen for someone who is doing many different systems, but for a DIYer like myself....... For a one time thing..... I just cant justify getting a tank and regulator for one time. Everything including the line set is new and Im pretty good at soldering.... The chances of a leak are very small, anyway.
Im going to wing it it just do a vac test. Im 99 percent sure everything will be fine.
Great video. I was taught that if it was less than 12 inches you didn’t need a cross break.
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Do you have an opinion on geothermal units on a new construction project? Just wondering I don’t know a lot about them but I was told they are extremely efficient and they are very good at radiant heat slabs.
Would love to see replacement of central air on top of an oil forced air furnace.
Another great video Dave! Been thinking about upgrading my old A/C system.
Currently I have a 4 tons R22 system on a 2 story home with 2500sq.feet and wanted to upgrade to 4.5 or 5 tons, but on the liquid size 3/8 and on the
the suction size is 3/4 about 30-40 ft. of run max.
Most of the new system that runs R410a the suction size is 7/8, so my question is will that effect the flow of the refrigerant? Any advice will greatly appreciated .
Let the heated joint pull the Staybrite soldier in and avoid applying the flame directly to the soldier. If you are attaching a 3/4" line-set, measure 3/4" of soldier, bend at that point and apply until you are down to the bend. That is all that you need. This avoids potential ball-bearings from too much soldier forming and returning to the compressor to self destruct.
Never used Staybrite, I always used 5% or 15% brazing alloy (sometimes 45% on appliances)… Granted, it has been 25 years since I was a tech, and about 12 since I last did a full install… I will have to lookup the specs, I assume there is some silver content…
While it makes sense I can't imagine "ball bearings" forming inside of lineset, any liquid solder that makes it inside (extremely small amount) will flow to the bottom permanently attached to the copper wall.
It’s important not to overdo the solder to prevent introducing debris to the line set.
Debris in system isn’t a cheap service call. Be smart and do it right.
I too broke from the hvac world several years back for less labor intensive work. The old days definitely used 5/15% stuff and I remember hauling our acetylene tank through all kinds of hell taking it to braze with that stuff. My dad has stayed in the biz and he switched to this stuff shortly after I got out; he swears by it also and it is effective for the application.
Nice work thanks for sharing it! Have you installed any heat pumps?
Also, give that camera man a raise!😉
I’ll be doing a straight ac to heat pump conversion in a couple weeks! Stay tuned :) and thanks for the kind words! He’s already over paid for an 18 year old 🤪
I have a question, I use to braise years ego now I see people solder the joints what’s the difference also I don’t see you using nitrogen when soldering please explain I’m just asking because it’s been a while.
What type of bit is used on the wrench m, when you open the valves on the condensor to release the refrigerant into the system?
That T1-T3 is just in case you installing 3 phase. T2 would be directly hardwired to compressor and stay hot. I think most HVAC relay with dc coil are label like that. I was gonna ask if Staybrite works on higher pressure 410a.
The bushes are going to trigger the high pressure switch one day, customer declined landscaping , he is going to pay for the hvac guy lol.
Good job man!
Exactly what I was thinking. I'm always cutting mine to keep a good air flow!
Is there enough side clearance for airflow on condenser. Get customer to cut down the ugly bushes.
How do decide to go with Stay bright 8 versus sil fos 15 silver solder? As you use the sil fos 15 in some of your other install videos. Thanks.
I notice that capacitor is a single round. Is this because the fan motor is an ECM motor so the capacitor is only for the compressor?
I thought you had to braze line sets? Or can you solder them?
Did the customer not want a new lineset? I change mine out when do my diy installs. I think its cheaper in than having to go back later and repair a leak and recharge with todays prices of refrigerants.
Your own state mechanical code says you are not allowed to use solder on refrigeration lines and they must be brazed.😂But, I'm sure your customer won't care...since you didn't pull a permit either.
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Such great videos! Thank you!!
Im glad you laughed at 5:06 and i wasnt the only one 😂
🤣🤣👊🏼 my camera man is a trip
Where do I find the true blue hose? Thank you very much
At 24:50 you mention "15 feet" of pre-charged freon". Are you talking about line distance from the condenser to the evaporator? If so, does that mean you typically have to add more freon if the run is longer?
That exactly right 👍🏼
How many brands you recommend with this type of design or easier the better I was pretty handy working in construction doing concrete framing,Sheetrock, tape and bedding and painting new construction and also remodeling, some plumbing and electrical but after I suffered a stroke everything just went down well at least I’m alive 😢but I might go to retired with my wife to South America and I want to take a unit like this for our place but I will need to my wife to be able to Conect it literally she is my legs and hands and she has learned a lot of stuff I’m prod of her but at the same time is sad 😞 because I use to be pretty active working and now I’m just here doing physical therapy 😢I apologize for bothering with my story but I wanted to ask you that and I know it’s easy but in my case I need the easiest not the cheapest, we aren’t rich either you know what I’m trying to say , Gracias for sharing this video I will keep checking for the next one,You have a great day sir!!!Saludos!!!👋😄👋
Doesn't some of the flux get inside the system when the solder wicks in?
Have you ever used star Brite solder instead of braising
Dave do you like the 3 port fieldpiece gauges or the 4 port with black hose vacuum one like to buy one not sure what’s the better one to use? Thanks
I love my 3 port. You have probably seen the way I pull a vacuum with my one tru blue hose kit and no manifold, so the 4th port would be useless for me. Here is a link for the three port :) I also recommend getting a set of low loss hoses separately so I left a link for the ones I use as well. cheers
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So I assume that with this solder method that you don’t need to flow nitrogen?
What exactly is the reason you can't just use 95/5 the reason I ask I'm wanting to take an old window unit compressor and make a recovery unit for cars I was wondering if 95/5 would be good enough for that because that stuff you use is like 90 buck to only use once.
Your video are excellent. What gauge wires do you use from the furnace to the condensor. Also what is your opinion about Ruud system compare to tempstar. I'm look to change out my ruud system
The only wire from the furnace to the condenser is your 24 volt thermostat wire. From the furnace board to each side of the contractor. Now the 240 from disconnect to condenser should be 10/2. From panel to disconnect is also 10/2
For the furnace it depends on if it’s gas or electric. I like to use 10/2 if electric and 12/2 if gas.
If you are using 30 amp breaker go with 10/2. 20 amp breaker use 12/2. I hope that clears it up some
The furnace is gas
Thank you for video!
What is type refrigerant in new air conditioner?
R407?
R410?
It’s R22
@@catchingdreams600 Thanks for answer. R22 very good refrigerant! Not high pressure. No glide, as R407.
Nice work. My only question is the old system from 1995 is probably r22. New system r410
What did you do to flush/clean the line set?
He probably used a can of flush I would assume
The guy vacuum pump is more expensive than my car I'm sure he know what he's doing.
I’m sorry I apologize I was writing a comment in a wrong video I was watching the mini split video and I was trying to write a comment and a question… you probably were …. What this dude is talking about???👀are you sure you took your pills 💊 Lmao 🤣 😂😂😂😂Keep up the great work!!!😊
Are they running Nitrogen when they soder or does using the Stay-Brite negate that need?
Yea you don’t need nitrogen flow with sb8 👍🏼
How would you rate ruud compared to goodman. Here in the southeast probably close to 75% of the units installed are goodman.
Yea I’m from Tennessee, a lot of Goodman’s out there. There is definite a quality increase going from a Goodman to Ruud/Rheem The installation is about the same. Goodman has a good product, but it’s absolutely builder grade
hey. can i use stay bright 1/8th solder instead, doing the same thing as this?
I’m not understanding your question. If you are installing a new system, yes you can use Staybrite 8 just like I did here and many of my other videos 👍🏼
As an HVAC guy, you have any inside scoop on Trane and their backorders of compressors? My mom's been without a/c for 2 months now. I'm going through your videos just in case I need to have a family member install it lol
I don’t. Didn’t know they were short handed on compressors. Just change out the whole unit man. It’s probably easier anyhow
if I could I would lol at the mercy of Trane now@@diyhvacguy
what would using stay bright do as far as the manufacturer warranty when the manufacture calls for brazing?
If you have to remove a compressor to warranty it out in 9 years, they aren’t gonna be asking how the lines are secured. You bring in the old and swap it for a new one.
@@diyhvacguy😂ur a hack🤡
Can we use Oatey solder for Aircon piping?!
Not sure on that one. Sorry
@@diyhvacguy thank you for your reply 🙏
5:06 haha😅
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That original pipe with 100 fittings... ahahahaha
Are You In Florida ???
Nah I’m in Salt Lake City utah 👍🏼
I'm a diyer, but always thought braising was done instead of solder for a/c. What about that?
he has a video about it, like 2 or 3 before this one.
Manufacturers advise brazing,but some youtube guy said he uses Stay -Brite 8 ,so that became the industry standard. Yes,brazing with nitrogen purge is how it should be done.Look at it this way,you should sweep with nitrogen any how to remove air and moistire and leak check,so your hooking it up anyway. Look inside any unit and you will see all connections are in fact brazed,why if stay brite is better? It has its place ,but not withing 6 ft of a compressor
Stay-Bright8 solder & Stay-Clean flux can be used instead of "Brazing"......
Stay-Bright 8 is a direct replacement for brazing. There is no need to braze AC lines. Pulling a vacuum removed all moisture and checks for leaks so you don’t need to pressure test with nitrogen.
@@80SWoods Any good tech,always does a pressure test! And you are wrong,Stay Brite 8 is not a replacement for brazing. I dont really care what the Harris website says.I have been doing HVAC installation and service for 29 years,and its a copout for lazy technicians! Same goes for press tools and push to connect! I have been seeing failures of all of those as well as Stay Brite on 410A systems especially!
If use too much solder it’ll fall into the system.
Shouldn't use soldering. It's not plumbing.
This Staybrite 8 is specifically engineered for hvac applications 👍🏼
What’s staybrite 8? Will be passed by inspector? I appreciate your response. Your video is what I have been looking for. You are amazing.
quit being cheap, if you get some of that acid in the system, and you will, then it becomes a acid burn out later, job security i guess.
this trade is so easy don't EVER hire this guy! so easy, it blows my mind he ever charges people for his "work" performed....
I don’t, you didn’t know all my work is done voluntarily?
not unless daddy is supporting you