I don't know what made her think she could drift into lane 1 going into the turn. Every other runner was holding their position. There was ZERO space there. Hopefully she'll learn from that.
100% she did not seem to be engaged in the race...just before she fell she looked to her left and then moved right into the runner behind her leg...Athing is struggling in her head.
As a veteran of dozens, if not hundreds, of 800 meter competitions, this is a case of shit happens. Mu was doing what you do on the back stretch of the first lap of the race - vie for position. It’s a fast race, and you have tunnel vision at that point. It’s all about getting inside position going into turn two.
She has changed for worse is racing strategic. Before she started training with KERSEY , she was always at the front of the race ,commanding the race from the start to the finish line ,with confidence and power . Now she runs on the pack and with a lack of confidence on herself. Change your coach MU ASAP
She hasn’t run this year due to injury. I agree that Kersee is not the right coach for her, but I also think she is facing some burnout issues. She has to find the love for the sport and it looks like she is battling.
I agree. She should've never left Coach Mallard/Pat Henry. I believe it was Allyson Felix and her brother who is a sports agent that convinced Athing to move to Cali to train with Kersee.
Ating Mu needs to go back to her old coach ! I said at the time that she was making a big mistake going to Kersee, she has not been the same runner since that move. He is not a mid distance specialist !
I hate to say it, but a competitor like Mu, should never, ever be running in a crowd. She's a front runner, but something changed...why? I don't what the hell Kersey's convincing his athletes of, but it ain't working. His bullshit trying to create a mystique around his stable by exposing them to as few competitions as possible is back firing. Let's see what happens to Sydney.
Regardless of what she does in a WC or Olympics meet, she should have run clear of the pack in the trials just to be conservative and stay out of trouble. This is a disaster.
Who were the two women marquee track and field athletes of the USA after the Tokyo Olympics? Athing Mu and Sydney McLaughlin Besides being the two top stars of the track world with Olympic Golds, what else do they have in common? They both quit the coaches that took them to the top and joined Bobby Kersey. What has happened since then. 1.) they have run progressively slower over the years he’s coached them. 2.) they each only run one or two races per year. (What kind of world class athelete in any sport only bothers to compete one event per year? 3.) They haven’t won any major championship in two years. They should have been racking up wins in Diamond League meets, the top four meets in the U.S., getting Diamond League championships and World Championships every year. It’s a crying shame. Two of the most exciting runners in the world, in their absolute primes, and they hardly ever get to compete in their sport. The number of races run just since the Olympics by Femke Bol (Sydney’s main rival) and Keely Hodgekinson (Athing’s main rival) make Athing and Sydney look like they’re not even part of the sport.
I can understand what you’re trying to say about Kersee and his athletes not running in meets as much as they maybe need to or as much as we would like to see. But I wouldn’t group Sydney in with all of these statements you’re making. She has won a major championship in the last 2 years (the world championships 2022). The only reason she didn’t run in worlds last year is because she got hurt . And she definitely has NOT been running progressively slower times over the last 2years whatsoever. she was running incredibly fast in the open 400 (48.74 almost the American record) in 2023 when she was focusing on that event , one that’s not even her specialty. I believe she still has the world lead in the open 400 for this year, until yesterday she had the 2nd fastest 200m in the world this year , again not her specialty, and literally just now broke her own WORLD RECORD..AGAIN in the 400m hurdles. Sydney is absolutely not running progressively slower times under Kersee like you’ve suggested. Obviously as spectators we would love to see the athletes we love , to go up against their rivals ad many times they can. But it seems that Bob Kersee and Sydney have found a way that works for them to be very successful. No we don’t see her run “as much” but every time she steps on the track, she is lazer focused and prepared to do what we know her to do. And who knows , if the goal is longevity, maybe not running a whole bunch of meets right now is purposeful. They are both still very young and could have a lot of years ahead of them in the sport. And with syd especially, she has the potential to compete in other events i.e. the open 400 and challenge and hopefully break records there too. She’s only 24, I’m okay with her competing conservatively if it means we get another decade or so of this kind of stuff.
Seems to me she has to make up her mind racing is what she wants to do - and then respect the discipline that comes with it. Your point about her opening up at Trials (!!) is spot on. She wouldn't have beaten Mary Moraa nor Keely Hodgkinson in Paris.
She wasn't tripped up - she tripped herself up by blindly moving to her left like a novice...... she should get a warning because she cost a couple a girls the chance to go to the Olympics (Sage for example and Gracie - the girl who threw herself over the line to qualify for the final). She should receive some sort of penalty... but whatever is done, probably nothing, she possibly possibly ruined the careers of some girls in that race.... It was disgraceful what she did.... possibly arrogance played its part too..... But again - you are the man because you called it.....
Won't be shocked if Athing runs MAD for the rest of the season & breaks the 800m WR ala Keni Harrison in '16 after she missed out on the Olympic W100mH Team! USATF will definitely try to get Athing to run all the rounds of the W4x4 & Mixed 4x4 (with Quincy Wilson) in Paris to get her 2 Gold Medals & possibly at least one WR in the process! S/O Juliette Whittaker who made the W800m Team & absolutely has Michaela Rose's number in the event with a 7-3 H2H Record beating her 3 out of 4 times this yr; NCAA In/Outdoor Champs Final & Olympic Trials Final. Hope big sis Isabella who finished 6th in the W400m Final gets included in the Relay Pool so that they go to Paris together as Olympians :)
No she won’t she will go on vacation how she always does She not touching the WR and she will go to her room and cry and ain’t gonna try She will be doing nothing as always
@@EmporerZNo, it was a fast race. According to the 100m splits, it took her about 4s to get back in, it would have been impossible to get top 3. She would have needed to run a high 57 after her first lap (which was 60s) so technically it was as if she ran 56. There’s not a woman in the world that is running 1:53 high
@@strikeforcetracktraining2253 Mu has stride on her side bit fitness has been a question mark for her. I'd have her run the 1500 too..teaches you race strategy. Either sit and kick or run from the front.
my comment got #rolled but yeah pro contracts whereabouts and strict living are why most athletes are how they are. ncca just distracts us fans with their college wits. pro track is a communist state of being. ask nick symmonds on why no american can go sub 1:40.00 but others have and will
Athing Mu benefited from the sheltered environment of College Station (Texas A&M). Los Angeles, its distractions (modeling), and the “mad scientist” Coach Kersee was all too much for her.
I’m a Mu fan. But I already knew something was off when she wasn’t leading the packs. My kids personally went to school with her at an and m when she was at her best and I gotta tell you idk wth is going on here. This is crazy..:.she’s running in the dead middle and down at 200m and now she crying. Something is def off. She don’t have that gold medal confidence right now and you can totally see it. Whose plan was this Olympic year. SMH. Welp she got Next year.
I knew she wouldn’t make the team. Racing once a year and you expect to wind gold every year. Naturally , those who race more and want it more , are going to win the competition
The only reason i can imagine coach Kersee isn’t racing her is because she’s so young. He wants her to have a nice long career like Allison. But I don’t really know. You have valid points all around.
I follow you on tiktok, and I stated in the comments that this is devasting, but she's young. She can try again several times over. A lot of mid-distance runners run well into their thirties... But to add on to what you said, I agree with you. This was the best thing for her. Even she said she was given too much responsibility too early. Now she can spend the next year, trying to figure out if this is what she wants and if there is a world's (hopefully), she can regain her world title back. Then she has a few more years to decide again if this is really what she still wants to do. And if it is, she can continue competing at worlds each year and go to the Olympic trials in 2028 and try again... lastly, maybe this is her karma, unfortunately. Nia Akins was tripped by her point blank in the Tokyo trials. It wasn't intentional, but Athing made contact with her as she was moving in and hit arms, and then Nia tripped over Athing's legs. It was not intentional for both falls, but I think Nia lost her moment and was the best contender for Athing. Now, between the world's last year and the trials this year, Nia gets a shot at greatness. ❤
Although my feelings are to feel bad for her, I can't argue with your reason here. I didn't realize she had that previous success under her old coach but I figure Bobby knows what he's doing since I don't.
If she wants to be a great 800m runner, which she already is, but it could end tomorrow, she needs a coach who coaches 800m runners and she needs to run a bunch of 800m races so that 1) she can work on her self-preservations skills, and 2) she can stop stressing out about losing. Bobby Kersee is a manipulative BSer of a coach. Maybe he's a great coach for Sydney, but he certainly shouldn't be coaching Mu who needs to work on her pack racing skills and needs to stop stressing out about her performances. Getting entangled with Bobby Kersee's ego is the worst mistake she ever made.
I was disappointed that she wasn’t competing in the Wanda/Diamond League meets. She obviously wasn’t in shape snd her lack of serious practicing showed. She messed herself up. She needs to decide if track is her passion or if being a model in LA IS! Shameful!
I agree with you. She should’ve stayed with coach Mallard/Pat Henry. Like you had mentioned, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it. I guess it’s best to stay outside of the pack so something like that doesn’t happen.
It's not her coach... it's her... she didn't want to be there and she put herself in place to trip and fall... she didn't want to run she strategically moved to the middle of the pack, tripped up, Faked a cry so she can keep her funds from the contract... not on Bobby all on her, she wants to model not run... I watch way to much track to even care that she's out... either you want it or you don't and She Doesn't. Now time to watch someone who wants it.
Athing Mu is running prodigy; she has God-given talent! I watched her compete against collegiate and elite athletes while she was in high school. In her defense, I heard she was recovering from a hamstring injury. I agree with you on the coach switching and lack of training. Personally, I think she was under tremendous pressure and to repeat as the 800 Olympic champions. I believe great runners emerge from circumstances like this one. Athin Mu will be back!
Its her own fault. This is why you should enter for more than one event if you can (she could, she has 400m speed) and also why you should never just assume things are gonna go your way
She had a short clipped about how her current passion is and was not focused on running, but rather she was more interested/boasted about fashion/modeling in LA or looking good for social media feeds. Perhaps she needed to be humbled and she learns from it and get back to training and staying focus. Best to her return.
@charlesmorris7333 Oddly enough, they did a segment on her where they were recapping her bronze and getting passed by the other 2 runners in the final at World's. She was sitting on a throne in the segment and said, "That won't happen again." Even though the segment was supposed to be lighthearted and entertaining, there was an air of pride with it. Pride always comes before the fall. In this case, literally. I do hope she can refocus, recover, always keep some humility, and come back from this with life lessons learned. She is a wonderfully talented athlete. ❤
This commentator knows what he is talking about. She had poor coaching. Maybe he is good with some athletes but not her. What worked in 2021 is what is right for her. Strategy wise, if she couldnt get to the lead and the pole on the first straightaway, get to the pole in the back of the pack and accelerate coming out of the turn. That had to be drilled into her, especially since she is the fastest sprinter in the field. A 60 followed by a 56 would have won. Even if she tied up , she would have gotten top 3. I suspect she is not in top shape and wanted the lead to slow the pace by her reputation . She panicked when it didn't go that way. In her present shape, she stood no chance in Paris anyway. If she gets in shape and her motivation back, she can have 4 more great years. 2024 is not her year but Ill enjoy watching her the next few years. If she wants to put in the miles, she might even be the best 1500 runner we have had since Mary Decker. If not, Nike paid her well for her last gold medal, invest it and have a great life.
This gentleman knows something most don't ... she was NOT in race shape.... as a former runner myself , the only thing that prepares you for running in packs is ... running in packs!
Bro. I have been saying this all day. I blame Bobby Kersee for this whole fiasco. All his athletes are mediocre at trials. They are not race sharp. Hardly raced all season. I never bought the story of them not going to intl meets. I hope this strategy doesn’t jinx Sidney and Keni Harrison too.
@pewithcoachlong7100 Athing clipping herself is a symptom of a bigger underlying issue which is that she was not race sharp, not at her peak fitness and not feeling confident enough to race ahead and avoid the pack as she used to do. His athletes barely raced all year and it showed. Jenna, Morolake, Keni Harrison, it might be working for Sydney but it is not necessarily good for all events and all athletes. He is the one putting all his athletes in one "non racing" bucket
I don't want to use your name ( bimbo) because you obviously know what you are talking about. You don't just show up for the trials and hope everyone is scared of you. I think there is more to this story and Kersee knew she wasn't ready to run faster than 1:58 or worse and he wanted her to get the lead and control the pace by her reputation. They had no plan B . She had to fall back if they weren't going to respect her. Some runners can tuck themselves into the middle of a pack and thrive. She can't. She needs room to float. Go to the back, grab the pole and sprint the last 300 in lane 2.
@JimTeech Athing has been on a slow slide downwards since she joined formula Kersee. All her great achievements were with her former coach. I think the first curse of the Kersee team is arrogance. It might be working for Sidney but it won't necessarily work for everyone. Athing was racing loads when she was high-achieving. This semi-celeb lifestyle in LA modeling and hobnobing with Oprah while not racing in 9 months is clearly not working. I am a fan of hers but not disappointed. She was in no shape to race Keely Hodgkinson and Mary Moraa. Add Nia Akins to that list now.
Just run the 400 meters for a season or two - or stay there, where the lanes protect long-legged runners.. Or find a middle-distance mentor. She needs to run from the back and swing wide and crush everyone. International runners and teams will always clip her from behind, so running from the front might not always be a safe way to go.
I agree with you. She should have been running the season to simulate the pack. She was tentative in all three rounds. No rhythm. This disappointment will hopefully turn her into a beast!
Thats a lie- she was winning at A&M where Brandon ran as well. You obviously dont know Brandon's history bc he was great in HS and summer track. Thats why he got a FULL scholarship to A&M.
For the life of me, I am always amazed and tickled at people making all the noise who have not made any significant achievements in their life. Probably 90% of you have never cleared a salary of $100,000 but you want to criticize and attack this young woman. She is 22 years of age. She became an Olympic champion at 18. This translates into she has the discipline and commitment to the sport. As an athlete, she probably has continually pushed herself to certain limits that creates injuries. All of you were the ones calling about the demise of ShaCarri Richardson. The young woman was only 19. She proved all the doubters and haters wrong. But the great part of this story. She is 22, which means, Olympics 28 (26), Olympics 32 (30) and Olympics 36 (34) are still in the horizon for Ating. Love ya, Ating. Ignore these LOSERS and bench warmers.
oh well, it just wasn't meant to be.......I also think runners, especially ones that are involved in races where there are no stay in your lane requirements, should train on how to recover from a fall and try to roll back to your feet as fast as possible and then of course slowly but surely work your way back to the pack........the problem with the 800 though, is that the race is simply not long enough for you to recover even with a decent fall recovery as time and track is simply not on your side; whereas, the 1500 possibly allows some ability at getting back into the thick of things depending upon when a fall would happen.........
whew.... now Erin this is off a little lolol... you know you talking out the side of your neck. There is nothing Bobby Could do when people make up a decision. She didn't want to run so she didn't run. He would talk and say he is trying to get her ready to break a WR and you gotta get strong but she went on the Pivot podcast talking about she wanna model lol... Also Athing had emotional things that were going on you forget BRANDON asked to come in that camp with her and when they started having troubles in their relationship she stopped running. We always used to say last year that Brandon was pulling her down. So please don't blame the coach, you gotta blame the athlete on this one ( i was like why did sis try to merge over in the bunch like that ) I mean if USATF would do the things that USATF do ( you know ) they could have pull some strings had one of the 3 that got in didn't have the olympic standard but nope. So NBC don't have to pull those commercials maybe they will allow her on the 4x400. I would take her for sure. You don't like him, but I believe ALL ATHLETES should be in therapy EVERY week just like Noah and it should be PAID FOR BY THESE SHOE COMPANIES ( thats a whole other issue about how yall don't get paid enough ). This sport doesn't allow you to have bad emotional days because it accepts your performance and your money. I felt so bad for her, for Raeyvn, and the other young lady who was pushed off the track and had to get back in the groove. The 3 ladies that did get in prayers for them because everybody in these social media streets don't see them even getting out the heats let alone the semis. So I hope they prove everybody wrong.
She literally signed a contract to run what you mean she didn't wanna run. I'm sure you don't wanna go to your job, but you signed up for it so you gotta do it
@@TheErinBrownTV I know tons of folks who sign contracts who don't wanna commit to it. She didn't wanna do it but did what she needed to do to not get dropped. Ran a few races last year and broke the AR again, and got on the podium. I mean it was average at best for her but she did what she needed to do. Again in this case we can't blame the coach its on Athing I love her but that is the truth... ( and all the other stuff I said )
This has nothing to do with Kersee…Athing Mu is a generational talent who has been running for 10+ years and she is not in love with track anymore. She doesn’t really want to run anymore…she wants to be a model or do other things. There is nothing wrong with that at the end of the day.
Bruh can’t believe I haven’t seen your vidz first of all and bad razz vid right here. I completely agree. However I do feel bad for Mu. She know she wasn’t ready, like u said all thru the vid. All my years racing the 800m in HS and NCAA I never once thought to change it all up for the very special year and never race!!! I see coach Kersee as a genius TnF coach but the whole “not racing” tactic gets no luv from me. We see the possible outcome here. I would think Syd the Kid will be a diff story, but we’ll have to wait n see Peace N Love
I agree that the rules need to change to make them run meets throughout the year if they want to compete in the Olympics and World Championships qualifying and the actual games. No one has ever been as blatantly (arrogant) as Athing Mu in Track and Field. Being a gold medal winner at the (young age of 18 eighteen) is probably has something to do with it as well as being a (girl).
Why is Athing Mu training with Bob Kersee? What experience does he have of middle distance running. He had suggested that Athing should only run the 800 and 1500m so that Sydney Mclaughlin could compete in both the 400mh and the flat 400m. It seemed as though Athing was only allowed into Kersee's training group to be Sydney's pacesetter ?!!
3 things. Leave that camp. It ain’t working. Last year you got beat bc you weren’t in shape. If u were in shape, ud be world champion. 2-You need to run more. You can’t show up and be in shape. You are getting injured bc you are out of shape. She must not be traning seriously. 3- Racing strategy. You can’t run the way you are. I like Athing but she was going to get smoked at the Olympics. Kelly ran a 155. Athing stop trying to be cute and just run. You will make more money being a champ then being cute. Sydney does the same but she’s focused. She went to the trials and told the world IM THE BEST. Femke you have to come through me.
I didn't know she's also in modelling....but after I watched the race and saw the incident I thought to myself maybe the girl can spread her by trying modelling, high jump ,long jump or even javelin thrower because of her long legs...her long legs gives her advantage.. ..she can be good as a discuss thrower as well....she just needs someone who can advise her to try new things...and put hard work on it.... discipline.. it's possible...
Pride comes before the fall. I didn't like how she walked out there, plus NBC hyped her up having her sit in a throne. I'm telling you, that l.A. lifestyle got to get. She's the first to be humbled. Noah will be next. Mark my words.
I literally just typed this in another comment! That segment where they had her sitting on that throne, while recapping her bronze-place finish at last year's World's, had an extremely arrogant air about it. She said, "That won't happen again!" In the moment that I saw it a couple of nights ago, I knew that the pride would cause a fall. I hope she will take this as a life lesson to always have some humility and to keep her priorities in order. She truly is a wonderfully talented athlete. Noah was also humbled back at the World's in '22 when he stated that there was no way the men's 4x1 would lose that race...until they did in the final. The Jamaican women who ran the 4x1 were also humbled in that Championship. The looks on their faces after the USA squad won were that of incredible shock and disbelief. Even though I am a huge Noah Lyles fan, he's treading a fine line right now. He can keep his verbosity, competitiveness, personality, and determination, but I hope he will also remember that too much pride will lead to defeat. The future is unknown, unforseen, and the smallest event could change one's trajectory. Stay humble and thankful. ❤ I was absolutely devastated for Christian Coleman, though. That one hurt my heart. 😢
@fredball8240 Thanks! I want nothing more than to see our entire Team USA represent and come back with tons of wins, but each individual athlete must remember that humility will elevate, pride will decimate. It is tried and true. I also recall a US Open a few years ago where the segment on Serena Williams was similar to that of what they just did with Athing. They called her the "Queen of NY" or something like that, and she was basically guaranteeing her win while donning a crown. She, too, was humbled in the final and lost. Confidence with humility and gratefulness is one thing. Egregious pride is another. I hope all of our athletes remember this important truth when they go to represent our Stars and Stripes. ❤️🇺🇲💙
A team should mean more than individuals! Mu has such a better record than Akins, Wilson and Whittaker are poor sports never saying how sorry they were to see her fall! Those women were all wrapped up in themselves! Hope Akins, Wilson and Whittaker get tripped and lose!!
This right here. I looked at it live and the girl behind ,Whitaker had the instincts to jump over at the same time she fell. Think about it . Slow the video down
You don't even mention how the girl that won pokes at her in the side and the girl that came in third gives her a shove to offset her. They planned that shit. She needs to speak up and tell the truth about what happened. Playing nice, when people are straight dirty, doesn't pay.
She wasn't ready period. Didn't even run a Diamond League meet and the rust showed.
I don't know what made her think she could drift into lane 1 going into the turn. Every other runner was holding their position. There was ZERO space there. Hopefully she'll learn from that.
100% she did not seem to be engaged in the race...just before she fell she looked to her left and then moved right into the runner behind her leg...Athing is struggling in her head.
@@joseflemire4284 She's been physiologically "off" for a good couple of years now.
As a veteran of dozens, if not hundreds, of 800 meter competitions, this is a case of shit happens. Mu was doing what you do on the back stretch of the first lap of the race - vie for position. It’s a fast race, and you have tunnel vision at that point. It’s all about getting inside position going into turn two.
She says she does it so that people coming up on her don't run into her legs. She's afraid of falling, for obvious reasons.
@@dmvbay2535no she hasn’t??? I’ve met her twice in my life and she’s fine this is just a case of “shit happens” 🤦🏿♂️
She has changed for worse is racing strategic. Before she started training with KERSEY , she was always at the front of the race ,commanding the race from the start to the finish line ,with confidence and power . Now she runs on the pack and with a lack of confidence on herself. Change your coach MU ASAP
She hasn’t run this year due to injury. I agree that Kersee is not the right coach for her, but I also think she is facing some burnout issues. She has to find the love for the sport and it looks like she is battling.
I agree. She should've never left Coach Mallard/Pat Henry. I believe it was Allyson Felix and her brother who is a sports agent that convinced Athing to move to Cali to train with Kersee.
You have to be super mentally tough to train with Bobby. She may have needed a break from the sport, but not necessarily change coaches
Don’t speak on what you don’t know.
Jersey ain’t even an 800m coach
She likes living in Cali, but Kersee isn't the only coach there.
Ating Mu needs to go back to her old coach !
I said at the time that she was making a big mistake going to Kersee, she has not been the same runner since that move.
He is not a mid distance specialist !
I hate to say it, but a competitor like Mu, should never, ever be running in a crowd. She's a front runner, but something changed...why?
I don't what the hell Kersey's convincing his athletes of, but it ain't working. His bullshit trying to create a mystique around his stable by exposing them to as few competitions as possible is back firing. Let's see what happens to Sydney.
notice before she got with Brandon Miller she was always in the front
True and more so in a tactical 800m race.
Regardless of what she does in a WC or Olympics meet, she should have run clear of the pack in the trials just to be conservative and stay out of trouble. This is a disaster.
Who were the two women marquee track and field athletes of the USA after the Tokyo Olympics?
Athing Mu and
Sydney McLaughlin
Besides being the two top stars of the track world with Olympic Golds, what else do they have in common?
They both quit the coaches that took them to the top and joined Bobby Kersey.
What has happened since then.
1.) they have run progressively slower over the years he’s coached them.
2.) they each only run one or two races per year. (What kind of world class athelete in any sport only bothers to compete one event per year?
3.) They haven’t won any major championship in two years. They should have been racking up wins in Diamond League meets, the top four meets in the U.S., getting Diamond League championships and World Championships every year.
It’s a crying shame. Two of the most exciting runners in the world, in their absolute primes, and they hardly ever get to compete in their sport.
The number of races run just since the Olympics by Femke Bol (Sydney’s main rival) and Keely Hodgekinson (Athing’s main rival) make Athing and Sydney look like they’re not even part of the sport.
I can understand what you’re trying to say about Kersee and his athletes not running in meets as much as they maybe need to or as much as we would like to see. But I wouldn’t group Sydney in with all of these statements you’re making. She has won a major championship in the last 2 years (the world championships 2022). The only reason she didn’t run in worlds last year is because she got hurt . And she definitely has NOT been running progressively slower times over the last 2years whatsoever. she was running incredibly fast in the open 400 (48.74 almost the American record) in 2023 when she was focusing on that event , one that’s not even her specialty. I believe she still has the world lead in the open 400 for this year, until yesterday she had the 2nd fastest 200m in the world this year , again not her specialty, and literally just now broke her own WORLD RECORD..AGAIN in the 400m hurdles. Sydney is absolutely not running progressively slower times under Kersee like you’ve suggested.
Obviously as spectators we would love to see the athletes we love , to go up against their rivals ad many times they can. But it seems that Bob Kersee and Sydney have found a way that works for them to be very successful. No we don’t see her run “as much” but every time she steps on the track, she is lazer focused and prepared to do what we know her to do. And who knows , if the goal is longevity, maybe not running a whole bunch of meets right now is purposeful. They are both still very young and could have a lot of years ahead of them in the sport. And with syd especially, she has the potential to compete in other events i.e. the open 400 and challenge and hopefully break records there too. She’s only 24, I’m okay with her competing conservatively if it means we get another decade or so of this kind of stuff.
Seems to me she has to make up her mind racing is what she wants to do - and then respect the discipline that comes with it. Your point about her opening up at Trials (!!) is spot on. She wouldn't have beaten Mary Moraa nor Keely Hodgkinson in Paris.
She wasn't tripped up - she tripped herself up by blindly moving to her left like a novice...... she should get a warning because she cost a couple a girls the chance to go to the Olympics (Sage for example and Gracie - the girl who threw herself over the line to qualify for the final). She should receive some sort of penalty... but whatever is done, probably nothing, she possibly possibly ruined the careers of some girls in that race.... It was disgraceful what she did.... possibly arrogance played its part too..... But again - you are the man because you called it.....
It pains me to see her in that state. But she will learn from this experience, next time she will work extra hard.
Won't be shocked if Athing runs MAD for the rest of the season & breaks the 800m WR ala Keni Harrison in '16 after she missed out on the Olympic W100mH Team! USATF will definitely try to get Athing to run all the rounds of the W4x4 & Mixed 4x4 (with Quincy Wilson) in Paris to get her 2 Gold Medals & possibly at least one WR in the process! S/O Juliette Whittaker who made the W800m Team & absolutely has Michaela Rose's number in the event with a 7-3 H2H Record beating her 3 out of 4 times this yr; NCAA In/Outdoor Champs Final & Olympic Trials Final. Hope big sis Isabella who finished 6th in the W400m Final gets included in the Relay Pool so that they go to Paris together as Olympians :)
She isn’t motivated anymore, she said she’s bored and would rather model.
I don't see Athing touching 1:53:28 yet.. Give it a couple more years.
@@FkaRon Can see her going from 1.54.97 to 1.53.99 by the end of this yr for #3 all-time & then running 1.53.27 next yr for a new & long overdue WR!
@@trentphillips8484 Getting WC Bronze last yr followed by this fall might just be exactly what she needs re motivation & focus!
No she won’t she will go on vacation how she always does
She not touching the WR and she will go to her room and cry and ain’t gonna try
She will be doing nothing as always
I like your analysis. Whittaker ran her college season. Wilson ran indoors. It’s seems they progressed over the year. Mu hadn’t really run this year.
Her coach was nowhere around after the race, that says a lot to me...
He isnt allowed on the track. Did you run track?
@@pewithcoachlong7100 I'm speaking of after the race, when she needed consoling...
Too bad for Athing Mu. She appears to be the 800m equivalent of Rhasidat Adeleke in the 400m. Both have unlimited potential in their two events!
Her career went down hill when she moved to Cali
Bro she fell it has nothing to do with loosing
She was poked and pushed. Dirty runners won. Period.
This isn’t her first time falling it’s clear she wasn’t hungry enough
@@EmporerZNo, it was a fast race. According to the 100m splits, it took her about 4s to get back in, it would have been impossible to get top 3. She would have needed to run a high 57 after her first lap (which was 60s) so technically it was as if she ran 56. There’s not a woman in the world that is running 1:53 high
@@FelaKuti8000 noone touched her- she clipped herself.
Bobby Kersee is a joke of a coach
How so?
All because one of his track runners fell?
@@noworries2432 HE HAD HER RUNNING THE 1500 DID SHE DO THAT AT TEXAS A&T....BOB IS NOT THAT GUY FOR MIDDLE DISTANCE (800)
@@strikeforcetracktraining2253 Mu has stride on her side bit fitness has been a question mark for her. I'd have her run the 1500 too..teaches you race strategy. Either sit and kick or run from the front.
@@66fredo99she should never be running 1500s
I dont believe her coach was her choice.
She can def choose who she want to coach her
@@omorxfenot always. if your sponsored odds are they pay a certain coach… look up alberto salazar. this is pro track not club
Wait wa????????
Yeah I totally agree I believe Nike forced Bobby onto her
my comment got #rolled but yeah pro contracts whereabouts and strict living are why most athletes are how they are. ncca just distracts us fans with their college wits.
pro track is a communist state of being.
ask nick symmonds on why no american can go sub 1:40.00 but others have and will
Athing Mu benefited from the sheltered environment of College Station (Texas A&M). Los Angeles, its distractions (modeling), and the “mad scientist” Coach Kersee was all too much for her.
She’s not motivated, she won’t be around in 4 years unless she blows her money
@@trentphillips8484You could be right. I hope not though.
what does this even mean
she needed to "Git" back up and finish that race!!!!
In order to run at the trials I think it should be required that an athlete must make the trials qualifying mark in the same year the trials are held.
It was her fault
I’m a Mu fan. But I already knew something was off when she wasn’t leading the packs. My kids personally went to school with her at an and m when she was at her best and I gotta tell you idk wth is going on here. This is crazy..:.she’s running in the dead middle and down at 200m and now she crying. Something is def off. She don’t have that gold medal confidence right now and you can totally see it. Whose plan was this Olympic year. SMH. Welp she got Next year.
Mu was running like a zombie
Her stamina and speed and what works for her was what she needed to have stuck with.
Success went to her head...silly hamite
I knew she wouldn’t make the team.
Racing once a year and you expect to wind gold every year.
Naturally , those who race more and want it more , are going to win the competition
Kersee ruined her
It gave “Show Girls” push down the stairs
She needs to change coaches
I blame Bobby the chemist
The only reason i can imagine coach Kersee isn’t racing her is because she’s so young. He wants her to have a nice long career like Allison. But I don’t really know. You have valid points all around.
I follow you on tiktok, and I stated in the comments that this is devasting, but she's young. She can try again several times over. A lot of mid-distance runners run well into their thirties... But to add on to what you said, I agree with you. This was the best thing for her. Even she said she was given too much responsibility too early. Now she can spend the next year, trying to figure out if this is what she wants and if there is a world's (hopefully), she can regain her world title back. Then she has a few more years to decide again if this is really what she still wants to do. And if it is, she can continue competing at worlds each year and go to the Olympic trials in 2028 and try again... lastly, maybe this is her karma, unfortunately. Nia Akins was tripped by her point blank in the Tokyo trials. It wasn't intentional, but Athing made contact with her as she was moving in and hit arms, and then Nia tripped over Athing's legs. It was not intentional for both falls, but I think Nia lost her moment and was the best contender for Athing. Now, between the world's last year and the trials this year, Nia gets a shot at greatness. ❤
She needs to refocus and get the world record
The biggest thing you pointed out was she tried to merge on the curve
Although my feelings are to feel bad for her, I can't argue with your reason here. I didn't realize she had that previous success under her old coach but I figure Bobby knows what he's doing since I don't.
If she wants to be a great 800m runner, which she already is, but it could end tomorrow, she needs a coach who coaches 800m runners and she needs to run a bunch of 800m races so that 1) she can work on her self-preservations skills, and 2) she can stop stressing out about losing. Bobby Kersee is a manipulative BSer of a coach. Maybe he's a great coach for Sydney, but he certainly shouldn't be coaching Mu who needs to work on her pack racing skills and needs to stop stressing out about her performances.
Getting entangled with Bobby Kersee's ego is the worst mistake she ever made.
She was literally injured but ok
(During the season that’s why she open her season at the trails
She wasn’t injured. She was ducking tests
@@EGuala21I'm sorry that your mother didn't love you. I hope you find true joy one day.
And modeling
@@EGuala21What damn tests. Go take your drug test crazy ass. She’s been running fast times since youth. Her performance improvements are normal.
I was disappointed that she wasn’t competing in the Wanda/Diamond League meets. She obviously wasn’t in shape snd her lack of serious practicing showed. She messed herself up. She needs to decide if track is her passion or if being a model in LA IS! Shameful!
That man said "boot printed"
I agree with you. She should’ve stayed with coach Mallard/Pat Henry. Like you had mentioned, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it. I guess it’s best to stay outside of the pack so something like that doesn’t happen.
Dang had no idea she opened up her season at the trials. welp 🤷🏿♂
It's not her coach... it's her... she didn't want to be there and she put herself in place to trip and fall... she didn't want to run she strategically moved to the middle of the pack, tripped up, Faked a cry so she can keep her funds from the contract... not on Bobby all on her, she wants to model not run... I watch way to much track to even care that she's out... either you want it or you don't and She Doesn't. Now time to watch someone who wants it.
Athing Mu is running prodigy; she has God-given talent! I watched her compete against collegiate and elite athletes while she was in high school. In her defense, I heard she was recovering from a hamstring injury. I agree with you on the coach switching and lack of training. Personally, I think she was under tremendous pressure and to repeat as the 800 Olympic champions. I believe great runners emerge from circumstances like this one. Athin Mu will be back!
Just glad she wasn't hurt 🙏. She'll come back much stronger...💖💖
Its her own fault. This is why you should enter for more than one event if you can (she could, she has 400m speed) and also why you should never just assume things are gonna go your way
One thing you all are forgetting. Thing was injured. This is why she did not compete during the year .
Damn she literally got stepped on😭
Cant she protest? She did not trip herself up!!
She could protest, but that could backfire. The judges could conclude that she made an illegal move.
She did protest it! They denied it
Young ,talented but inexperienced and undisciplined - paid the price.😥😭😢
Inexperienced? She's an Olympic and world champion
She's got the sweet exterior but her whole approach was cocky.
She had a short clipped about how her current passion is and was not focused on running, but rather she was more interested/boasted about fashion/modeling in LA or looking good for social media feeds. Perhaps she needed to be humbled and she learns from it and get back to training and staying focus. Best to her return.
@@charlesmorris7333 She needs to do a ShaCarri and reboot
@charlesmorris7333 Oddly enough, they did a segment on her where they were recapping her bronze and getting passed by the other 2 runners in the final at World's. She was sitting on a throne in the segment and said, "That won't happen again." Even though the segment was supposed to be lighthearted and entertaining, there was an air of pride with it. Pride always comes before the fall. In this case, literally. I do hope she can refocus, recover, always keep some humility, and come back from this with life lessons learned. She is a wonderfully talented athlete. ❤
Wasn't Athing injured?
This commentator knows what he is talking about. She had poor coaching. Maybe he is good with some athletes but not her. What worked in 2021 is what is right for her. Strategy wise, if she couldnt get to the lead and the pole on the first straightaway, get to the pole in the back of the pack and accelerate coming out of the turn. That had to be drilled into her, especially since she is the fastest sprinter in the field. A 60 followed by a 56 would have won. Even if she tied up , she would have gotten top 3. I suspect she is not in top shape and wanted the lead to slow the pace by her reputation . She panicked when it didn't go that way.
In her present shape, she stood no chance in Paris anyway. If she gets in shape and her motivation back, she can have 4 more great years. 2024 is not her year but Ill enjoy watching her the next few years. If she wants to put in the miles, she might even be the best 1500 runner we have had since Mary Decker. If not, Nike paid her well for her last gold medal, invest it and have a great life.
No she fell in herta tried not to step on her and got pushed out of bounds and got disqualified.
She was either given no tactics from her coach or the wrong tactics just before the race (coming from a former NCAA All American 800M Guy)
Hard work beats talent, when talent don't work hard.. I'm sad for her.
This gentleman knows something most don't ... she was NOT in race shape.... as a former runner myself , the only thing that prepares you for running in packs is ... running in packs!
Bro. I have been saying this all day. I blame Bobby Kersee for this whole fiasco. All his athletes are mediocre at trials. They are not race sharp. Hardly raced all season. I never bought the story of them not going to intl meets. I hope this strategy doesn’t jinx Sidney and Keni Harrison too.
He's a great coach for Sydney, but he gives me the creeps.
You can not put all his athletes in 1 bucket bc A Thing of Beauty clipped herself in a race.
@pewithcoachlong7100 Athing clipping herself is a symptom of a bigger underlying issue which is that she was not race sharp, not at her peak fitness and not feeling confident enough to race ahead and avoid the pack as she used to do. His athletes barely raced all year and it showed. Jenna, Morolake, Keni Harrison, it might be working for Sydney but it is not necessarily good for all events and all athletes. He is the one putting all his athletes in one "non racing" bucket
I don't want to use your name ( bimbo) because you obviously know what you are talking about. You don't just show up for the trials and hope everyone is scared of you. I think there is more to this story and Kersee knew she wasn't ready to run faster than 1:58 or worse and he wanted her to get the lead and control the pace by her reputation. They had no plan B . She had to fall back if they weren't going to respect her. Some runners can tuck themselves into the middle of a pack and thrive. She can't. She needs room to float. Go to the back, grab the pole and sprint the last 300 in lane 2.
@JimTeech Athing has been on a slow slide downwards since she joined formula Kersee. All her great achievements were with her former coach. I think the first curse of the Kersee team is arrogance. It might be working for Sidney but it won't necessarily work for everyone. Athing was racing loads when she was high-achieving. This semi-celeb lifestyle in LA modeling and hobnobing with Oprah while not racing in 9 months is clearly not working. I am a fan of hers but not disappointed. She was in no shape to race Keely Hodgkinson and Mary Moraa. Add Nia Akins to that list now.
Just run the 400 meters for a season or two - or stay there, where the lanes protect long-legged runners..
Or find a middle-distance mentor.
She needs to run from the back and swing wide and crush everyone.
International runners and teams will always clip her from behind, so running from the front might not always be a safe way to go.
She was the cause of the prolem.
She got pushed forward
I agree with you. She should have been running the season to simulate the pack. She was tentative in all three rounds. No rhythm. This disappointment will hopefully turn her into a beast!
DAN AND DAN NEVER FAILS
How do you guys make these predictions without knowing the backstory of the athlete situation?
Rogers is the one who took out Mu
Basically....
nah...lol. She drifted without looking into a crowd and dem long legs got her ass in trouble.
She took herself out she has zero common sene with her long stride she’ll be bootprinted
@@dmvbay2535 Literally !!
And she didnt even place... you cannot trust folks..Everyone hungry and chances are their will harm you to get to the mile..
...all that winning was before she got with Brandon "never won anything" Miller. Cant blame coach cause Sydney is beating 200m girls.
Thats a lie- she was winning at A&M where Brandon ran as well. You obviously dont know Brandon's history bc he was great in HS and summer track. Thats why he got a FULL scholarship to A&M.
For the life of me, I am always amazed and tickled at people making all the noise who have not made any significant achievements in their life. Probably 90% of you have never cleared a salary of $100,000 but you want to criticize and attack this young woman. She is 22 years of age. She became an Olympic champion at 18. This translates into she has the discipline and commitment to the sport. As an athlete, she probably has continually pushed herself to certain limits that creates injuries. All of you were the ones calling about the demise of ShaCarri Richardson. The young woman was only 19. She proved all the doubters and haters wrong. But the great part of this story. She is 22, which means, Olympics 28 (26), Olympics 32 (30) and Olympics 36 (34) are still in the horizon for Ating. Love ya, Ating. Ignore these LOSERS and bench warmers.
She looked 49
@@user4136_ you sound delusional for sure.
Literally made over $100k from just making content last year.... do your research on me 🧏🏽♂️
oh well, it just wasn't meant to be.......I also think runners, especially ones that are involved in races where there are no stay in your lane requirements, should train on how to recover from a fall and try to roll back to your feet as fast as possible and then of course slowly but surely work your way back to the pack........the problem with the 800 though, is that the race is simply not long enough for you to recover even with a decent fall recovery as time and track is simply not on your side; whereas, the 1500 possibly allows some ability at getting back into the thick of things depending upon when a fall would happen.........
whew.... now Erin this is off a little lolol... you know you talking out the side of your neck. There is nothing Bobby Could do when people make up a decision. She didn't want to run so she didn't run. He would talk and say he is trying to get her ready to break a WR and you gotta get strong but she went on the Pivot podcast talking about she wanna model lol... Also Athing had emotional things that were going on you forget BRANDON asked to come in that camp with her and when they started having troubles in their relationship she stopped running. We always used to say last year that Brandon was pulling her down. So please don't blame the coach, you gotta blame the athlete on this one ( i was like why did sis try to merge over in the bunch like that ) I mean if USATF would do the things that USATF do ( you know ) they could have pull some strings had one of the 3 that got in didn't have the olympic standard but nope. So NBC don't have to pull those commercials maybe they will allow her on the 4x400. I would take her for sure. You don't like him, but I believe ALL ATHLETES should be in therapy EVERY week just like Noah and it should be PAID FOR BY THESE SHOE COMPANIES ( thats a whole other issue about how yall don't get paid enough ). This sport doesn't allow you to have bad emotional days because it accepts your performance and your money. I felt so bad for her, for Raeyvn, and the other young lady who was pushed off the track and had to get back in the groove. The 3 ladies that did get in prayers for them because everybody in these social media streets don't see them even getting out the heats let alone the semis. So I hope they prove everybody wrong.
She literally signed a contract to run what you mean she didn't wanna run. I'm sure you don't wanna go to your job, but you signed up for it so you gotta do it
@@TheErinBrownTV I know tons of folks who sign contracts who don't wanna commit to it. She didn't wanna do it but did what she needed to do to not get dropped. Ran a few races last year and broke the AR again, and got on the podium. I mean it was average at best for her but she did what she needed to do. Again in this case we can't blame the coach its on Athing I love her but that is the truth... ( and all the other stuff I said )
You are well informed. TY
This has nothing to do with Kersee…Athing Mu is a generational talent who has been running for 10+ years and she is not in love with track anymore. She doesn’t really want to run anymore…she wants to be a model or do other things. There is nothing wrong with that at the end of the day.
Bruh can’t believe I haven’t seen your vidz first of all and bad razz vid right here.
I completely agree. However I do feel bad for Mu. She know she wasn’t ready, like u said all thru the vid. All my years racing the 800m in HS and NCAA I never once thought to change it all up for the very special year and never race!!!
I see coach Kersee as a genius TnF coach but the whole “not racing” tactic gets no luv from me. We see the possible outcome here.
I would think Syd the Kid will be a diff story, but we’ll have to wait n see
Peace N Love
Can she try to qualify in the 1500?
I agree that the rules need to change to make them run meets throughout the year if they want to compete in the Olympics and World Championships qualifying and the actual games.
No one has ever been as blatantly (arrogant) as Athing Mu in Track and Field. Being a gold medal winner at the (young age of 18 eighteen) is probably has something to do with it as well as being a (girl).
Great point .
Coach Milton Mallard was good for her she seem happier
Ther's not athing she can do about it now.
Why is Athing Mu training with Bob Kersee? What experience does he have of middle distance running. He had suggested that Athing should only run the 800 and 1500m so that Sydney Mclaughlin could compete in both the 400mh and the flat 400m. It seemed as though Athing was only allowed into Kersee's training group to be Sydney's pacesetter ?!!
3 things.
Leave that camp. It ain’t working. Last year you got beat bc you weren’t in shape. If u were in shape, ud be world champion.
2-You need to run more. You can’t show up and be in shape. You are getting injured bc you are out of shape. She must not be traning seriously.
3- Racing strategy. You can’t run the way you are. I like Athing but she was going to get smoked at the Olympics. Kelly ran a 155.
Athing stop trying to be cute and just run. You will make more money being a champ then being cute. Sydney does the same but she’s focused. She went to the trials and told the world IM THE BEST. Femke you have to come through me.
You are right bro.we love Her but she could run in diamond leagues and meets to show a shape at least for 4×4 relay
Well said
They will take her to Paris..trust me. This is LieMerika. They bend all the rules.
Thats a great assessment you did and you're dead right
I didn't know she's also in modelling....but after I watched the race and saw the incident I thought to myself maybe the girl can spread her by trying modelling, high jump ,long jump or even javelin thrower because of her long legs...her long legs gives her advantage..
..she can be good as a discuss thrower as well....she just needs someone who can advise her to try new things...and put hard work on it.... discipline.. it's possible...
Paris 24 800m finale result as expected..
1st Moraa
2nd K Hodgkinson
3rd kiv.......
Keely would have beaten Athing in Paris anyway
Facts
She was secretly suspended she wasn't able to run before the nationals
I believe this
@@whymillie ya'll reaching lol
Pride comes before the fall. I didn't like how she walked out there, plus NBC hyped her up having her sit in a throne. I'm telling you, that l.A. lifestyle got to get.
She's the first to be humbled.
Noah will be next. Mark my words.
I literally just typed this in another comment! That segment where they had her sitting on that throne, while recapping her bronze-place finish at last year's World's, had an extremely arrogant air about it. She said, "That won't happen again!" In the moment that I saw it a couple of nights ago, I knew that the pride would cause a fall. I hope she will take this as a life lesson to always have some humility and to keep her priorities in order. She truly is a wonderfully talented athlete. Noah was also humbled back at the World's in '22 when he stated that there was no way the men's 4x1 would lose that race...until they did in the final. The Jamaican women who ran the 4x1 were also humbled in that Championship. The looks on their faces after the USA squad won were that of incredible shock and disbelief. Even though I am a huge Noah Lyles fan, he's treading a fine line right now. He can keep his verbosity, competitiveness, personality, and determination, but I hope he will also remember that too much pride will lead to defeat. The future is unknown, unforseen, and the smallest event could change one's trajectory. Stay humble and thankful. ❤ I was absolutely devastated for Christian Coleman, though. That one hurt my heart. 😢
@@housewifeuntilheaven1593 Preach!
@fredball8240 Thanks! I want nothing more than to see our entire Team USA represent and come back with tons of wins, but each individual athlete must remember that humility will elevate, pride will decimate. It is tried and true. I also recall a US Open a few years ago where the segment on Serena Williams was similar to that of what they just did with Athing. They called her the "Queen of NY" or something like that, and she was basically guaranteeing her win while donning a crown. She, too, was humbled in the final and lost. Confidence with humility and gratefulness is one thing. Egregious pride is another. I hope all of our athletes remember this important truth when they go to represent our Stars and Stripes. ❤️🇺🇲💙
They sabotage Mu 😢😮
I agree!
The three black girls tripped her..
Thank you
A team should mean more than individuals! Mu has such a better record than Akins, Wilson and Whittaker
are poor sports never saying how sorry they were to see her fall! Those women were all wrapped up in themselves! Hope Akins, Wilson and Whittaker get tripped and lose!!
This right here. I looked at it live and the girl behind ,Whitaker had the instincts to jump over at the same time she fell. Think about it . Slow the video down
Something not right!!! She
I feel the same way.
Embarrassing!
She been a duck
Following
Wow
Get rid of kersey...
You don't even mention how the girl that won pokes at her in the side and the girl that came in third gives her a shove to offset her. They planned that shit. She needs to speak up and tell the truth about what happened. Playing nice, when people are straight dirty, doesn't pay.
She was on all the peds in college