Since its Nintendo they probably won't win it which would suck since for obvious reasons Nintendo is greedy and doesn't want fan projects which is obvious with fan games like am2r so yeah I love pointing out the obvious and yapping
Sadly, so far Nintendo has won every lawsuit that they started, including against massive companies. But, just because Palworld has to settle doesn't mean that the game will get pulled from online stores
Nintendo does make excellent games, even today. Nintendo doesn't make pokemon games though. Another company is responsible for making pokemon games. Nintendo makes stuff like Zelda and Mario
@@sailingadventurer True Nintendo doesn't make Pokemon games, but they still own it with two other companies: Game Freak and Creatures. But the point is that Nintendo would rather crush another company so they do not have any competition.
@@sailingadventurer They’re good but could be so much better if Nintendo and the fans stop allowing them to be cheap with console production. The switch is so piss poor when it comes to handling heavy games that aren’t specifically made for it, imagine the BoTW and ToTK if it was produced for something like the Ps5 or PC.
Steam can't delete games you bought from your library and palworld doesn't need online to play.. Even if it is removed from purchase on steam it will still be downloadable and playable.
@@liberator-sf4bf It wont be downloadable once its removed but it'll be playable if you already have it. Edit: Since people cant be arsed to read a couple comments down I will clarify here, I meant it cant be bought from steam... it can still be played. I used the wrong wording. Chill tf out.
@@malikfoxen2045 ah, thanks for that info. still havent played it since im w8 for finished product. Downloading now and keeping the auto update on, so if its removed i can still try it out :D
Reminder that Palworld does not have any kind of DRM or require an internet connection to work. You will always be able to launch the .exe file from the game files and play the singleplayer mode
@@frostreaper1607the big problem is its only playable for a while, the game uses up so much memory that their biggest focus is reducing the memory usage, its so bad that after a little while your game will completely break until the next update. I have a world with 550 days and every couple of days playing i have to wait for a update to reduce memory load because my game will refuse to save, this happens to a good like 1/4 of the playerbase, if it stops getting updates the game will permanently be unplayable, its so bad you cannot create a new world. If you want to keep your world playable play solo only.
Palworld HQ defended with heavily armed random looking objects. Ash was deployed. Ash was also... apparently... captured in a Pal Sphere as he's switched sides.
Here's the funny thing. Palworld was in open development back in 2021. This "patent" was created back in like 2022/23. By this logic what legal grounds does nintendo have to stand on? The patent itself is sketchy because it's built around an idea, which shouldn't be patentable.
furthermore its also just protecting the EXACT mechanic, a derivative that acts sufficiently different is completely legal (as in multiple changes throughout the scaling of health based chances, upgrading catching chance etc) nintendo is just pissy because gamefreak has turned into a hot pile of trash and all the money went to some comparatively few dudes that worked their ass off instead.
I don't know about the others here... but if Palworld gets removed from steam... I am NEVER going to consume ANY NINTENDO CONTENT EVER AGAIN until the day I die.
Palworld is not Pokemon with guns. On the surface it looks like it, but it plays entirely differently from Pokemon. Gameplay > superficial looks. Pokemon is a turn based RPG. Palworld actually has more in common with a survival game like Ark than Pokemon when it comes to actual gameplay.
That's something I wish more people would understand. the moment I played this I felt no actual Pokemon gameplay and I especially don't remember Pokemon having guns or capturing humans, base building, slave labor and the other things this game does that Pokemon doesn't do because they want a family friendly image.
I believe the lawsuite is over the patent of capturing battle companions in an orb like object. I still think its BS, but it isn't about the superficial looks.
@@MHMichaelHooper Not only did that exist before Pokemon but indeed that is a core staple of the genre. Orb, prism, block, data card, brick, doesn't matter what you catch something with its the same thing. The idea that Nintendo owns a core genre mechanic or the ball shape is stupid. That's way too general. I dont like the Nemisis System being patented, but at least that's a highly specific system...not a common genre foundational system. Especially not since the patent was filed AFTER Palworld development and definitely after that already existed in Craftopia. "I Own the thing you did in the past with the patent I filed today" is always gonna be stupid.
@@Ralathar44 It's not just stupid, it's illegal. That falls under "Prior Art", which gets the patent request rejected. Can't patent something someone else is already doing.
Wasn't Palworld in development before the patent? Surely that has to help their case. Imagine every single Japanese company has to check up on EVERY mechanic they want in their game to see if it is patented or not. What a nightmare. Absolutely ridiculous.
I've seen articles floating around stating Palworld was announced in June 2021, meaning it was probably in development earlier that year or late the prior year. Funnily enough, the Nintendo patent in question was filed December 2021. Not sure if you can sue retroactively lol
Western people are easily incited and have no ability to verify Nintendo has always opened up its game technology patents to all creators for free use. If Nintendo is really evil, they could destroy more than half of the world's games But Nintendo rarely sues other games over patents The most fundamental reason why Nintendo sued Palworld is because Palworld completely disrespects Nintendo. In 2021, the producer of Palworld publicly mocked Nintendo and Pokémon on Twitter Then he started making Palworld It’s no surprise that Palworld will of course have to use Nintendo’s gaming technology And Palworld contains a lot of Pokémon-like designs Palworld a big success And join Nintendo's biggest commercial enemy Sony That is to say Palworld teases Nintendo Palworld uses game technology created by Nintendo Palworld copies many of Nintendo's ideas Palworld joins Nintendo's biggest business foe Now Palworld is pretending to be the victim and trying to win over all independent game studios which makes me sick. And the Western people actually thinks it’s Nintendo’s fault You guys are ridiculous
What I've read is that you can have a "major" patent and "child"/derived patent. If the "major" patent has been registered before Palworld, then the "child" patent is considered to be patented in the same date of the "major" patent. Is this stupid? Totally. But well, Japan things. They're more strict in these kind of stuff than CP in their population :|
Everyone said that indies would save the industry, but this is the great fear, big companies will now sue them just for having game mechanics that are similar, even tho they dont win, the amount of resource for a indie Studio to spend on it is too much for them
Sony and Aniplex have partnered to develop Palworld's licensing business with three companies. (Palworld Entertainment, Inc.) Palworld Mobile is being developed by the developer of PUBG. I think that's why Nintendo decided to sue. Pocketpair is no longer an indie game company
Can you not see how incredibly and suspiciously similar the characters are? They say their artists have spent a lot of time on the designs, but I doubt it. There are so many ways you can make a cool, sporty rabbit, but somehow it looks just like Cinderace…? Down to the small details might I add.
Sony and Aniplex have partnered to develop Palworld's licensing business with three companies. (Palworld Entertainment, Inc.) Palworld Mobile is being developed by the developer of PUBG. I think that's why Nintendo decided to sue. Pocketpair is no longer an indie game company
@@PiggyBonkers0309the lawsuit is for patent infringement, not copyright. They're suing for the mechanic of capturing a creature in an object thrown at it, not for the designs. Inform yourself before spreading misinformation. Also if we're gonna start talking about inspired designs, nintendo did the exact same thing with dragon quest, with most of Gen 1 pokemon being *extremely* inspired from dragon quest monsters.
Nintendo absolutely has no ground with this lawsuit. Three key things: -Pokemon is not the first or original monster tamer game -Concepts like the pokeball were actually "inspired" From other media like Ultraman. -Palworld is far closer to A.R.K. and than Pokemon in terms of core mechanics.
@@Crusader3454Pokemon hasnt released a good game in over 15 years so how could Palworld be copying them? If I was the judge I'd toss the case on that alone
@@AscendantStoic if its held in japan (which it is iirc) there is a 80% chance alone that nintendo will win without even looking at it. Not stupid from a company standpoint - i would do the same - then if i win, years later - bring out a similar game -> everyone will buy it. case closed (btw such things already happend in the gaming & other industries). & guess what, ppl love it. so its a win win situation for everyone. (except the initial creator, but by then nobody gonna remember them anyway)
@@clovermite best part is Nintendo didn’t even create the patent until 2022/23 but palworlds development began before that. Nintendo doesn’t even have a real case here, but the resources required to fight off such a juggernaut would likely cost the devs of palworld a fortune, and so they may not be able to do it.
I don't think they would earn that much money from this tbh. Nintendo is valued at about 63 Billion usd ish, which means that losing the lawsuit might devalue them a bit, which is more than what Palworld has made in sales. Nintendo want monopoly on their so called Pokemon mechanics, they're afraid that Palworld's success will create more games like this in the future that's not Nintendo.
I guess they thought it would look 1% less petty if they waited for a competing company to have any amount of success. 99% petty is still very petty though.
They prefer to maintain a monopoly on Pokémon-style games, churning out half-baked open-world titles instead of investing resources into creating a well-crafted game.
I still dont know how the Nexomon developers got away with all the things they copied , those games have been copying more of Pokemon than Palworld ever did and Nintendo didnt sue them afaik. As for Nintendo and Gamefreak , they make so much money doing the bare minimum , because they know people will still buy their games anyway. I mean Violet and Scarlet are really poorly optimized with 5 -10 fps , pop ins everywhere , and other issues , while they look like they came where made in the Gamecube era. They keep releasing new DLC's ( which where expensive aswell) and updates into the game , but fixing the problems is too much to ask for.
Pokemon creator also got the idea from ultraman/ultraseven capsule monsters.The original name of Pokemon was Capumon for capsule monsters, but they thought they would get sued by Tsuburaya, and so they changed it to Pokemon for pocket monsters.
@@Scosher This is not a copyright lawsuit, but a patent lawsuit that Nintendo has been preparing for months. No doubt Nintendo will win and Pocket Pair will have to pay billions of yen to Nintendo.
In Japanese business culture, there's a unique practice regarding patents. Companies often obtain patents not to monopolize an invention, but to ensure it can be freely used while preventing malicious actors from monopolizing it themselves. Generally, small indie game developers, for instance, won't be sued for using such patented technologies. The patent holder typically only pursues legal action when they judge there's malicious intent against the original creator. Is this approach uncommon in other countries?
Patents are a way to restrict creativity and stop people from creating better iterations of a single idea. Like the nemesis system from shadows of mordor.
Patents exist for corporate bullying of smaller companies, nothing more. Any money you give to nintendo is put towards actively making the game industry worse for everyone.
@@QuestionQuestionMark To say things without knowing the background of this case is proof of stupidity. They used other patents, made it look like they created it, and tried to get a license for it, which is the problem this time. And you idiots scream that the monster ball is the problem. You people need to learn about “intellectual property”. It's a noble right, and Pocket Pair should be punished for promoting it with their own face.
@@minapinit means, its a stupid idea. It’s one thing to patent the Nintendo Switch, or the 3DS, but it’s another thing to patent literal game mechanics. This lawsuit is clearly bullshit and Nintendo is going to try and drag out this lawsuit to fuck over Palworld
My cynical brain can't accept the idea that Nintendo stands to gain/not-lose more money by killing Palworld than if they were to allow it to coexist in a spirit of friendly competition. Nintendo doesn't make good enough Pokémon games. In the same way Palworld DIDN'T steal the pal designs, Nintendo should NOT steal Palworld's game design and make a comparable product with their own underutilized IP. We literally could live in a world where money is printed by both games, and everyone wins. There are people choosing to kill fun.
my man, not even debating nintendo being dicks here but this could have been avoided by palworld, they just needed to have original designs and not copy paste some pokemon basically 1:1, but that would have cost money and time and they were too lazy for it, so they kinda deserve it.
@DennisGr How about stop telling people things you don't know about including what you got from a bunch of people that want to make a case for Nintendo when their own games are so terrible?
I don't think they wouldhave cared if Palworld wasn't a financial success. They may be petty to go after smaller devs and projects with the force of their strongest lawyers, but ones with any ounce of validity gets the full force of every combat-bred lawyer they have and legendary rocket launchers.
Steam might not, but I believe they are both capable of doing so and legally allowed to do so in the US due to fucked up EULA conditions and the US's weak consumer protections
@@ravenspurplebeats5412 In my mind, Palworld is closer to Valheim than it is to Minecraft. Minecraft is heavily focused on crafting and, I believe, offers much more flexibility in that regard. Is there anything similar to minecraft's red blocks in Palworld? I never played far enough to find out myself.
@@clovermite if you dont think of whole cube shape, you build houses and bases on minecraft still but few games have feature/mechanic of building own bases also as ark is also like that and that has been known to be compared with palworld.
The American side of Nintendo started this lawsuit and they're accusing Pocketpair of 'patent' infringement, not copyright, which means that they're not accusing them of stealing, they're accusing them of using similar mechanics like capturing monsters in a ball. The problem is that Pokèmon is not the first game where capturing monsters in a device was a mechanic. Dragon Quest had that mechanic long before that when it was published by Enix (now Square Enix). And Palworld has been in development since 2021 and many of the mechanics, like ball capturing, has been known since 2022 and the patent by Nintendo was only applied last year so it's definitely malicious.
@@Amplifymagic I didn't say that Dragon Quest captured monsters in balls, I said it had a monster capturing *device.* I'm just saying Pokèmon wasn't the first game to have that mechanic.
@@Amplifymagic not the point and not revelant, the fact is that the pattented it in 2022 and palworld was in development SINCE 2021 or so. Imagine if palworld patented it and tried to sue nintendo, it's the same fcking sh!t
The idea of catching monsters in a ball is, imo, a more advanced and literal take on the idea of entities possessing an item. We may not know the exact details of how such technology works but that's because it's fantasy. Imo it isn't something Nintendo should have the power to claim ownership of and just because they're trying doesn't mean they have a valid point. If Palworld has to make changes, I can cope. I won't be happy about it, but I'd rather have a changethan no palworld at all.
Whaat makes the the lawsuit even more funny is that they arent sueing Ark, in Ark you can get spheres/balls, to also storge battle monsters/companions and you throw the ball at them to catch them, or throw it to unleash them, i get theres a few other things involved but, the premise is still there. I also understand you dont catch a wild dino in a ball like these games but the patent still includes that definition.
I feel ya man. I played it a bit but my current setup isn't good enough to properly run it, so I'm waiting for an upgrade before really getting into it.
same... im a person who dont like to replay games. It lookes very fun, so i got it early and witing for the finished product... and now i might not get to play it at all becouse of some greedy ultra rich people.
Not sure about Fitgirl but before I buy my copy of Palworld I downloaded from a website I trust and till this day it's still having the new builds uploaded and when I played I remember even online mode used to work on those builds, so dw there's people around the world working on it 👍 I'd also like to add that the game is fully made in Unreal Engine, which is pretty easy to make content/mods Nintendo will never stop the community of this game
I highly doubt they will remove the game from Steam and Xbox. They might have to pay for damages and/or change the pal spheres to something else but I don’t think Nintendo can have the game removed due to a few patents.
@@kylespevak6781 No, patents and copyright are for protecting intellectual property. Paying damages and changing the infringing items serves the purpose of the patent and/or copyright. Companies definitely abuse the system to try to get stuff taken down, but that's definitely not their purpose.
Pocketpair should patent everything unique about Palworld. Prevent the pokemon company/Nintendo from making a game similar to Palworld to capitalize on this.
@@electrobob992wait for real? You can do that? I always thought that if the game is removed from steam, you can never redownload it or even play an installed one without cracks
Nintendo can't force a game to be deleted because customers already buy the game, if this was possible, then their company that made Palworld would need to refund people back their money, after all they can't play the game they got with their money.
Wish Id like it, but im just not a fan of survival or crafting. When I see him open the inventory with all those items...blah =/ Id have loved to see Blizzard survival game if they could had made it better for somebody like me. Survival games have way to much to learn - Like I can load into Raft, or smaller indie survival, and its just confusing and not obvious.
employee: palworld is so good. let make our next pokemon better. nintendo CEO: no no NO. thats too much money and time to develop. we will just sue poketpair and make our next pokemon game like the previous one but with a lil bit of gimmick
add to this that employee who will even try to say something like that will be fired and you get reality. pokemon is a conveyor game - they could shit them out every month if they wanted and for barely a fistful of yen. so all thats left is to make sure that people dont have alternatives.
Western people are easily incited and have no ability to verify Nintendo has always opened up its game technology patents to all creators for free use. If Nintendo is really evil, they could destroy more than half of the world's games But Nintendo rarely sues other games over patents The most fundamental reason why Nintendo sued Palworld is because Palworld completely disrespects Nintendo. In 2021, the producer of Palworld publicly mocked Nintendo and Pokémon on Twitter Then he started making Palworld It’s no surprise that Palworld will of course have to use Nintendo’s gaming technology And Palworld contains a lot of Pokémon-like designs Palworld a big success And join Nintendo's biggest commercial enemy Sony That is to say Palworld teases Nintendo Palworld uses game technology created by Nintendo Palworld copies many of Nintendo's ideas Palworld joins Nintendo's biggest business foe Now Palworld is pretending to be the victim and trying to win over all independent game studios which makes me sick. And the Western people actually thinks it’s Nintendo’s fault You guys are ridiculous
Go cry Nintendo fan boy. They created the whole scenes and design in Unreal5. So they didn’t copy code or anything from Nintendo cause they don’t use ur5. You lose
Nintendo has always been famous for nasty tactics. Back in the day they wanted to file a lawsuit against Blockbuster for videogame rentals, they threatened retailers about selling Tengen titles during their legal battle against Atari Games by telling them they would stop providing NES consoles and games if they started selling Tengen titles in their stores and the list goes and goes and goes...
One of my favorites is when they shut down Mario Royale, and they're completely justified in shutting down indie projects using their assets and do it all the time, but the real rub is when, 1 year later, they made the same game (but not as good in every possible way) with Mario 99.
Nintendo isn’t known for nasty tactics; they’re famous for defending their property from unscrupulous companies. Like right now, they’re protecting themselves from a company that’s using their patent without permission.
Most of the Nintendo lawsuit is fight against art usage. The only one patent lawsuit recently was against White Cat Project (COLOPL). *Nintendo sue COLOPL because they registered some Nintendo's gameplay as new patent and sold to another company. Nintendo communicated COLOPL for a year before suing them but pocketair didn't know everything before that. That make me feel strange about this.
Sony and Aniplex have partnered to develop Palworld's licensing business with three companies. (Palworld Entertainment, Inc.) Palworld Mobile is being developed by the developer of PUBG. I think that's why Nintendo decided to sue. Pocketpair is no longer an indie game company I think the licensing business is exactly the same as COLPL Punicon because it is exactly about patents and copyrights
@@bixbu9844 That one of Asian thought. I will go and try to know another thing: did Nintendo sue someone for business competition after Satoru Iwata become CEO?
@@ninedays1024 Intellectual property infringement lawsuit granted AROUND $15 MILLION for Pocket Monster Reissue (Chinese name “口袋妖怪：复刻”) made by a Chinese company. This is one of six lawsuits filed by Nintendo against six Chinese companies. Three of the remaining companies were ordered to bear joint and several liability for a portion of the damages, but two companies have appealed.
@@bixbu9844 That game was shamelessly using Pokémon's title, name, design and Pokémon anime's character to make into a P2W mobile game. You can even say that it is not a business competition lawsuit but an ordinary plagiarism lawsuit for that
So sad Nintendo instead of making a game people wanted they decided to just sue other games that are smaller then them so only they have a monopoly on these specific type of games
@@DeejayMC25 This is not a copyright lawsuit, but a patent lawsuit that Nintendo has been preparing for months. No doubt Nintendo will win and Pocket Pair will have to pay billions of yen to them.
@@実は弱い五条悟 It all depends on how the patent holds up in court. Regardless it is very a scumbag action for them to patent a game mechanic, that is like cinema directors copyrighting a way to film a movie. Nintendo is a bad company, i hope pocketpair wins.
@@wildeyshere_paulkersey853 This guy is spamming the same message on every comment in here. Must be a massive Pokemon fanboy or something. Palworld is now with Sony and that means - two planets colliding. Although i really hate Sony, but at least Palworld is not alone against those Nintendo a**holes.
Anybody remembering Tem Tem? The game that literally was a Pokemon MMO with mechanics even more similar to Pokemon than Palworld. Yet Tem Tem still exists to this day and even has a Switch Port. I guess Tem Tem wasnt that much of a financial success for Nintendo to think it would pose a threat to them but Palworld apparently is, although its far more different to Pokemon than Tem Tem is.
Really sucks man.. I'm sure myself and a lot of other people either grew up with a Sega or a Nintendo. Sega's still around technically for their IPs. Nintendo is basically the Disney of thegame industry, with classic IPs and the gradual transformation into an entity that tends to be shitty towards anything and anyone that impinges upon or competes with the complete dominance of their IPs.
yeah honestly, the only reason I don't want them to go fcking bankrupt if for some nostalgia, some IPs and the switch, but they mfers kinda deserve it for just shutting down and making sh!t pokemon games. But I swear I hated nintendo ever since the Pokemon Roblox game shut down. And TO THIS DAY it's still on, you just need to find the correct "cover up" game to play it, it changes every couple weeks to stay hidden, but losing my progress killed my interest in the game honestly
They aren't getting a penny from me anymore, that's for sure. If they're gonna be petty and go oit of their way to squash any kind of fun, then I'm gonna be petty in going out of my way to not support them. I know I'm only one person and make no financial impact on them but I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.
If Pocketpair doesn't back down, I seriously think they will have a chance. If they took months to find something wrong with the game then they were probably searching for the smallest little thing to attack which would probably be the gameplay patent. If they win, then they've opened up the Pandora's box for copyright law since now the first ever action movie could strike all other action movies for using the overpowered one man army patent, DOOM can strike every FPS game for using first person for their shooter, Atlus can strike all monster tamer/battler games, including pokemon etc. It makes no sense and no patent should be copyrightable. I understand that copyright law is there to help, but because it is so poorly enforced and loosely defined, we'd be better off without it until it gets it's shit together
Let me get straight to the point: I do not like Palworld's core of design and I think the CEO's statement is inappropriate. I know people in the Western regions generally don't have a favorable view of Nintendo. Initiate keyboard war here no doubt is digging one's own grave. So I don't have any attempt explain or arguing what's going on with this lawsuit, and it will be all in vain. I sincerely hope an influential person can do the investigation and thoroughly to make this case more clear to the public ,and correctly. Though people talking about it or not will never interfere the result of the lawsuit. Still, I hope people can identify what is right and what is wrong without hatred. Really, and sincerely.
@@exoticdachoo007 I think what nintendo plans to do is try to stall the case as long as they can to try and make pocketpair go bankrupt through legal fees, if this is the case then their even bigger sacks of shit than i ever realized.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo releases their own Pal(Poké)world if they win the lawsuit and get Palworld removed... of course more kid friendly, more expensive, with a ton of expensive DLC's etc. to milk their fanbase.
@@Ms._Crimson They did it with Mario Royale (into the far more flawed Mario 99), so yeah, I could see that. But yeah, like sevenseven said, I'm not sure they'd put in the legitimate effort that they need (although, as always, certainly have the resources for) And I know Nintendo =/= Gamefreak/Pokemon company, but it doesn't matter. They're both lazy.
So Nintendo might not win... They're filing the suit over a patent (different from copyright) in Japan... Japan is strict on copyright, but patents are not copyright... So the stuff about similarities between designs of the creatures is all irrelevant as that'd be a copyright infringement if anything not patent infringement which would be more like Nintendo claiming ownership of a gameplay mechanic or something... The exact patent isn't clear, but last I checked Nintendo does not own the concept of catching critters... You do that in TemTem and WoW with the pets that likewise do battling after being captured... So Nintendo seems to not think they own any of that or else they would've enforced it elsewhere before Palworld... Beyond that, what else could Nintendo possibly own about Palworld? The rest of the game is far more like Fortnite or you're typical survival game than anything relating to Nintendo or The Pokemon Company (also involved in the lawsuit suggesting it's to do with Pokemon specifically and not Zelda)... So I just have no idea what patented aspect of Pokemon was infringed upon by Palworld but not other games such as TemTem... And its not like TemTem didn't get a TON of publicity with people saying "It's like Pokemon"
Isn't it obvious that nintendo did this because palworld devs said they will make some moblie shit with sony? Like literally they didn't do it to genshin. why would they do this exept this the timing fits perfectly. Why are people like i'm surprised it took then 6 months to do this
I think your guess is as good as mine. Sony and Aniplex have partnered to develop Palworld's licensing business with three companies. (Palworld Entertainment, Inc.) Palworld Mobile is being developed by the developer of PUBG. I think that's why Nintendo decided to sue. Pocketpair is no longer an indie game company
It was a matter of time till Dicktendo sue them. And just to be clear - no Nintendo technically has no right to sue and win with someone who came out with a similar ideas and designs. They own no exclusivity for it and none of assets owned by Nintendo got copied. Pokemons in fact are not even Nintendo's original idea - as they are based on creatures from Dragon Quest.
This is because the West is largely a free market economy. Japan values tradition, whereas the West wants to have competitors, to compete with each other, to improve, to make better products. The current Pokémon is a great IP, but the current game itself is just bad, and as much as it has fans in the West, the opposite is also true.
(Just some of the outcomes of losing/settle) Nothing really happens after the companies make a deal of some sort, everyone can still play and new players can purchase on Steam. On Steam the game is taken off the store but everyone that already has the game can keep playing it. No new players can purchase. The game has to be patched to remove certain game mechanics and replace it with slightly different ones. Game continues to be a success. There's probably way worse options.
Most people here have the wrong perception. Nintendo is suing for “patent infringement” and the details of what they are suing for have not yet been made public. The only thing that can be determined from the information that is currently available is that Pocket Pair's attempt to use Nintendo's patents to create an IP was not a good idea. Nintendo's stance was that although they had acquired the patent, it was basically free and they could use it. But if they used it and then claimed that it was a system they created, of course it would be reasonable for them to be sued.
And it wasn't scummy for the devs to take content for their original game, abandon said game and all those promises to cut the content and stitch it together and sell it as a new game?
I don't see Palworld being removed. I think the claims Nintendo used to sue are specious at best and weren't the ones they stood the best chance of prevailing with. More than likley there will be some kind of settlement whereas Palworld makes changes and pays Nintendo some sort of settlement fee and that would be the likely best outcome for Nintendo. I think Palworld actually has a chance to win this which would be a first time I am aware of a loss for Nintendo.
Unfortunately Nintendo will probably win even though they claim “patent infringement” and it’s unclear what patents PalWorld could have possibly infringed.
I started playing it last month. Jesus Christ be praised. It's amazing. I hated it for the first 5 hours, and now it's one of my favorite games of all time. So freaking good.
@@M98747 ya well getting punched becomes more tolerable after dealing with it for five straight hours and i would literally rather do that than play KCD and I gave it nearly twice that amount of time as a chance
So apparently Nintendo is sue on the grounds of how you capture pals in the game which is stupid because there are hundreds of games with almost if not the same mechanics in games
It isn't just that. There are a few patents that Nintendo owns that they're going to ding Palworld on, not just the capturing of creatures in spheres. There's also the change state when going from flying on an object to gliding along the ground while riding an object (You know how when you land while flying, you go into a "ground" mode and have to take off again?) As well as a creatures mood improving upon waking up in a virtual morning (I'm not kidding). Nintendo are being ultra scumbags because many of their patents are very broad mechanics.
Western people are easily incited and have no ability to verify Nintendo has always opened up its game technology patents to all creators for free use. If Nintendo is really evil, they could destroy more than half of the world's games But Nintendo rarely sues other games over patents The most fundamental reason why Nintendo sued Palworld is because Palworld completely disrespects Nintendo. In 2021, the producer of Palworld publicly mocked Nintendo and Pokémon on Twitter Then he started making Palworld It’s no surprise that Palworld will of course have to use Nintendo’s gaming technology And Palworld contains a lot of Pokémon-like designs Palworld a big success And join Nintendo's biggest commercial enemy Sony That is to say Palworld teases Nintendo Palworld uses game technology created by Nintendo Palworld copies many of Nintendo's ideas Palworld joins Nintendo's biggest business foe Now Palworld is pretending to be the victim and trying to win over all independent game studios which makes me sick. And the Western people actually thinks it’s Nintendo’s fault You guys are ridiculous
They absolutely do not care. Their arsenal of patents is meant to give them a legal pseudo-monopoly over in Japan. Won't need to care anymore if everyone is forced to come to you for what they want anyway.
looking amazing wont bring super profits - being a monopoly does. so what if nintedo failed to deliver good pokemon game in around 15 years? people still buy them and will continue to do so cause they are trained like Pavlovian dogs to do so and have 0 alternatives.
Here's the thing with copyright laws People with the most money are the ones who largely benefit from such laws Smaller companies just get out earned by the larger ones The theory around copyright is it allows smaller creators to protect their works but in reality it tends to do the opposite The larger company will just throw money at the case till they win
I know Nintendo isn't suing for copyright, but I truly believe had Palworld not blatantly stolen so much character art with only minor alterations, they never would have been successful or on Nintendo's radar.
Aaa the company that make the same exact carbon copy game every few years with the same title since they run out of idea thus the shamelessly known as the milking pokemon and mario organization, Nintendog
What's even more funny is how they took the Pokémon idea and made a better game than the OG's because mostly they just create Repetitive Pokémon games with nothing to little that is new lol
thats the part that players want from pokemon, is the same game with new designs. but the last few pokemon games were developed like they were thrown together in a 2 week binge of fried chicken and coffee
And palworlds isn't? Lol. Go capture pet, make work, run same clunky dungeons. Get tier 2, make work, run same clunky dungeons but slightly harder. As if this game adds ANYTHING new to the survival genre lol. Hurr durr Nintendo bad.
@@Crusader3454 Only after 25 years of creating that precedent. They've basically raised fans with no standards. If they took a bit more time and care with each rendition of Pokemon, it'd be miles better than it is right now, and I don't think any of the fans would've had an issue with that approach, if they'd started doing it long ago. Now though, yeah they are kinda stuck, they'd probably burn a few fans if they actually tried to change things up, they'd get over it though.
I hope pocket pair wins this. Nintendo messed up waiting too long to file. Pocket pair, Sony, and Aniplex formed a new company over palworld called Palworld Entertainment. So pocket pair has some big hitters behind them
Nintendo to me is a compnay that has only survived by milking peoples nostalgia. I cant really think of a single game thats actually original or a series that isnt just a copy of a copy.
I think Nintendo has created a situation for themselves of "damned if they do, damned if they dont." If they win, people will no longer support pokemon, and if they don't win, they'll still lose fan support of pokemon. They should've sued poketpair when people "exposed" the similarities a long time ago. Don't wait after they become a success. This is literal sabotage, and they know poket pair would have to hold off development of future projects, AND spend loads of money to defend themselves from this lawsuit.
Nintendo could also have planned this out; they wait for Pocket Pair to succeed, learn everything that PP did well or not, then shut them down and make their own version. It's like fattening chicken before butchering it.
Nintendo suing palworld over a capture mechanic would be like Battlefield suing another fps game for using destruction or something like that I'm sure that's not the best comparison but it's not that far off. Games have been borrowing ideas and stealing mechanics forever but palworld throwing a ball to capture a creature is a big enough deal to get courts involved? Fucking crazy.
i hope palworld wins this lawsuit, they deserve it!!!
Since its Nintendo they probably won't win it which would suck since for obvious reasons Nintendo is greedy and doesn't want fan projects which is obvious with fan games like am2r so yeah I love pointing out the obvious and yapping
let’s boycott nintendo by not buying their Switch
@@Kitsune_Dev Good luck with that, whoever wanted a Switch already has one by now.
They won't, it'll get changed and they won't afford the lawyer costs.
Sadly, so far Nintendo has won every lawsuit that they started, including against massive companies. But, just because Palworld has to settle doesn't mean that the game will get pulled from online stores
I love how Nintendo would rather kill any and all competition rather than actually make good games themselves.
At least buy the devs like Valve would amirite?
you "love"
Nintendo does make excellent games, even today. Nintendo doesn't make pokemon games though. Another company is responsible for making pokemon games. Nintendo makes stuff like Zelda and Mario
@@sailingadventurer True Nintendo doesn't make Pokemon games, but they still own it with two other companies: Game Freak and Creatures. But the point is that Nintendo would rather crush another company so they do not have any competition.
@@sailingadventurer
They’re good but could be so much better if Nintendo and the fans stop allowing them to be cheap with console production.
The switch is so piss poor when it comes to handling heavy games that aren’t specifically made for it, imagine the BoTW and ToTK if it was produced for something like the Ps5 or PC.
Solution. Save a copy on an OFFLINE computer and play it forever there.
No updates means No way for em to delete it. It's 100% offline playable.
Steam can't delete games you bought from your library and palworld doesn't need online to play.. Even if it is removed from purchase on steam it will still be downloadable and playable.
@@liberator-sf4bf It wont be downloadable once its removed but it'll be playable if you already have it.
Edit: Since people cant be arsed to read a couple comments down I will clarify here, I meant it cant be bought from steam... it can still be played. I used the wrong wording. Chill tf out.
Or pirate it?@@malikfoxen2045
@@malikfoxen2045that’s not true. I have Deadpool on steam and can uninstall and reinstall whenever I want. I can even download it on my steam deck.
@@malikfoxen2045 ah, thanks for that info. still havent played it since im w8 for finished product. Downloading now and keeping the auto update on, so if its removed i can still try it out :D
Reminder that Palworld does not have any kind of DRM or require an internet connection to work. You will always be able to launch the .exe file from the game files and play the singleplayer mode
I'm out of the loop but the issue I'd see is that the game isn't finished?
@@frostreaper1607 it's in a very playable state already though
@@frostreaper1607true but it jas enough to be a playable and enjoyable experience. An incomplete game is better than a non-existent one in this case.
extra notes on this.
palword has dedicated server support so you can literally boot up a server yourself and play with friends whenever you want.
@@frostreaper1607the big problem is its only playable for a while, the game uses up so much memory that their biggest focus is reducing the memory usage, its so bad that after a little while your game will completely break until the next update.
I have a world with 550 days and every couple of days playing i have to wait for a update to reduce memory load because my game will refuse to save, this happens to a good like 1/4 of the playerbase, if it stops getting updates the game will permanently be unplayable, its so bad you cannot create a new world.
If you want to keep your world playable play solo only.
Trust me, Nintendo would make sleeping in video games a patent.
Fear to tell you it done.
They've done that.
guess Minecraft has to remove sleeping
@@nanopiwhich game?
@@nanopi Huh?
Breaking: Palworld devs hire look-a-like lawyers, with guns.
genius
Good old wild west solving problems with duels.
💀
Palworld HQ defended with heavily armed random looking objects. Ash was deployed. Ash was also... apparently... captured in a Pal Sphere as he's switched sides.
Breaking: Tom Green is suing this guy for looking and sounding so similar. Tom Green has a patent on himself
Here's the funny thing. Palworld was in open development back in 2021. This "patent" was created back in like 2022/23. By this logic what legal grounds does nintendo have to stand on? The patent itself is sketchy because it's built around an idea, which shouldn't be patentable.
furthermore its also just protecting the EXACT mechanic, a derivative that acts sufficiently different is completely legal (as in multiple changes throughout the scaling of health based chances, upgrading catching chance etc)
nintendo is just pissy because gamefreak has turned into a hot pile of trash and all the money went to some comparatively few dudes that worked their ass off instead.
The process is the punishment. Nintendo can stall until the smaller company goes bankrupt
@@HiUnidentified Couldn't Digimon claim the same about Pokemon?
@@mdb45424 Luckily they sold over 25M copies + whatever they make from game pass.
Not really because pokemon came out before Digimon.@@lemonstealinghorse
I don't know about the others here... but if Palworld gets removed from steam... I am NEVER going to consume ANY NINTENDO CONTENT EVER AGAIN until the day I die.
why wait? there's more than enough reasons to boycott nintendo already.
LOLOLOLOL yall are degens
I'm with yoh
Just pirate their game
Well you can consume it just dont pay for it 😂. Show them what real piracy looks like xD
The fact Nintendo waited half year just to strike is kinda strange
Calculated for maximum profits.
It could also be that they couldn't find an argument that would hold up in court until now.
They had to find the weak spot. Wasn't glowing red
building a strong case takes time
not strange at all. they had to build their case before presenting it to a judge and it's not something you do overnight, you come prepared.
Palworld is not Pokemon with guns. On the surface it looks like it, but it plays entirely differently from Pokemon. Gameplay > superficial looks. Pokemon is a turn based RPG. Palworld actually has more in common with a survival game like Ark than Pokemon when it comes to actual gameplay.
That's something I wish more people would understand. the moment I played this I felt no actual Pokemon gameplay and I especially don't remember Pokemon having guns or capturing humans, base building, slave labor and the other things this game does that Pokemon doesn't do because they want a family friendly image.
I believe the lawsuite is over the patent of capturing battle companions in an orb like object. I still think its BS, but it isn't about the superficial looks.
@@MHMichaelHooper Not only did that exist before Pokemon but indeed that is a core staple of the genre. Orb, prism, block, data card, brick, doesn't matter what you catch something with its the same thing.
The idea that Nintendo owns a core genre mechanic or the ball shape is stupid. That's way too general. I dont like the Nemisis System being patented, but at least that's a highly specific system...not a common genre foundational system.
Especially not since the patent was filed AFTER Palworld development and definitely after that already existed in Craftopia. "I Own the thing you did in the past with the patent I filed today" is always gonna be stupid.
@@Ralathar44 It's not just stupid, it's illegal. That falls under "Prior Art", which gets the patent request rejected. Can't patent something someone else is already doing.
True. At its core, Palworld shares more in common with Ark than anything else.
Wasn't Palworld in development before the patent? Surely that has to help their case.
Imagine every single Japanese company has to check up on EVERY mechanic they want in their game to see if it is patented or not. What a nightmare. Absolutely ridiculous.
I've seen articles floating around stating Palworld was announced in June 2021, meaning it was probably in development earlier that year or late the prior year. Funnily enough, the Nintendo patent in question was filed December 2021. Not sure if you can sue retroactively lol
Western people are easily incited and have no ability to verify
Nintendo has always opened up its game technology patents to all creators for free use.
If Nintendo is really evil, they could destroy more than half of the world's games
But Nintendo rarely sues other games over patents
The most fundamental reason why Nintendo sued Palworld is because Palworld completely disrespects Nintendo.
In 2021, the producer of Palworld publicly mocked Nintendo and Pokémon on Twitter
Then he started making Palworld
It’s no surprise that Palworld will of course have to use Nintendo’s gaming technology
And Palworld contains a lot of Pokémon-like designs
Palworld a big success
And join Nintendo's biggest commercial enemy Sony
That is to say
Palworld teases Nintendo
Palworld uses game technology created by Nintendo
Palworld copies many of Nintendo's ideas
Palworld joins Nintendo's biggest business foe
Now Palworld is pretending to be the victim and trying to win over all independent game studios which makes me sick.
And the Western people actually thinks it’s Nintendo’s fault
You guys are ridiculous
自分のマスコット使って知名度集めてた奴が金儲けも始めたらそりゃ怒るよ。
What I've read is that you can have a "major" patent and "child"/derived patent. If the "major" patent has been registered before Palworld, then the "child" patent is considered to be patented in the same date of the "major" patent. Is this stupid? Totally.
But well, Japan things. They're more strict in these kind of stuff than CP in their population :|
Everyone said that indies would save the industry, but this is the great fear, big companies will now sue them just for having game mechanics that are similar, even tho they dont win, the amount of resource for a indie Studio to spend on it is too much for them
Sony and Aniplex have partnered to develop Palworld's licensing business with three companies.
(Palworld Entertainment, Inc.)
Palworld Mobile is being developed by the developer of PUBG.
I think that's why Nintendo decided to sue.
Pocketpair is no longer an indie game company
Can you not see how incredibly and suspiciously similar the characters are? They say their artists have spent a lot of time on the designs, but I doubt it. There are so many ways you can make a cool, sporty rabbit, but somehow it looks just like Cinderace…? Down to the small details might I add.
Sony and Aniplex have partnered to develop Palworld's licensing business with three companies.
(Palworld Entertainment, Inc.)
Palworld Mobile is being developed by the developer of PUBG.
I think that's why Nintendo decided to sue.
Pocketpair is no longer an indie game company
@@PiggyBonkers0309the lawsuit is for patent infringement, not copyright. They're suing for the mechanic of capturing a creature in an object thrown at it, not for the designs.
Inform yourself before spreading misinformation.
Also if we're gonna start talking about inspired designs, nintendo did the exact same thing with dragon quest, with most of Gen 1 pokemon being *extremely* inspired from dragon quest monsters.
@@PiggyBonkers0309 the lawsuit isn't for character design but for game mechanics of the pokeball
Nintendo absolutely has no ground with this lawsuit. Three key things:
-Pokemon is not the first or original monster tamer game
-Concepts like the pokeball were actually "inspired" From other media like Ultraman.
-Palworld is far closer to A.R.K. and than Pokemon in terms of core mechanics.
its amazing that by being 3 times better then the recent pokemon games, they are still probably 200 times better then ark (but still more similar)
Nintendo just trying to bleed the company through frivolous lawsuits because Nintendo is sitting on buckets of cash. This should be illegal
@@Crusader3454Pokemon hasnt released a good game in over 15 years so how could Palworld be copying them? If I was the judge I'd toss the case on that alone
And there is 1 master key:
-Who will offer more money to the judge...
@@chiquita683Black 2 and White 2 are the last good ones as far as I’m concerned.
This is why it’s so important for physical media. If it had physical copies people could play regardless if companies fall or get sued.
The fact Nintendo created a Patent just to sue PocketPair is ridiculously sad.
It's stupid and nonsensical, they will lose that case if the judge has a lick of common sense.
It's pathetic
@@AscendantStoicWe all know the judges will prefer the side with more green 💸
That’s grimy
@@AscendantStoic if its held in japan (which it is iirc) there is a 80% chance alone that nintendo will win without even looking at it. Not stupid from a company standpoint - i would do the same - then if i win, years later - bring out a similar game -> everyone will buy it. case closed (btw such things already happend in the gaming & other industries). & guess what, ppl love it. so its a win win situation for everyone. (except the initial creator, but by then nobody gonna remember them anyway)
THERE ARE NO LAWS AGAINST PALS IN PALWORLD BATMAN!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
JOKER, NOOOOO
Batman yesssssss!
DONT DO IT JOKER!
😂😂😂😂
There's also no crying in baseball.
If Nintendo wants their customers back this is not the way
If they cared about their customers they wouldn’t put out dogshit to begin with
These AAA companies really take the fun out of gaming.
Yea and is pissing me off they ruined the fun out of it this is why I use emulator games without buying there real switch
Someone should remind Nintendo/GameFreak how 'similar' their pocket monsters are in design to Toriyama's Dragon Quest monster designs...
The best thing to do is stop buying their games
Lawyers only exist to consume what others have created
@@Allious131 but sadly people still gonna buy em
They waited for them to make money. Can't sue and make money from sueing if they have no money
that's the worst and darkest nature of humanity laid bare . well said .
In the US, that would be grounds for revoking the patent.
@@clovermite best part is Nintendo didn’t even create the patent until 2022/23 but palworlds development began before that. Nintendo doesn’t even have a real case here, but the resources required to fight off such a juggernaut would likely cost the devs of palworld a fortune, and so they may not be able to do it.
I don't think they would earn that much money from this tbh. Nintendo is valued at about 63 Billion usd ish, which means that losing the lawsuit might devalue them a bit, which is more than what Palworld has made in sales. Nintendo want monopoly on their so called Pokemon mechanics, they're afraid that Palworld's success will create more games like this in the future that's not Nintendo.
I guess they thought it would look 1% less petty if they waited for a competing company to have any amount of success. 99% petty is still very petty though.
I finally decided to buy the game, just to give them a bit of support against big tendo.
They prefer to maintain a monopoly on Pokémon-style games, churning out half-baked open-world titles instead of investing resources into creating a well-crafted game.
Kinda reminds me of every "licensed" game ever 😂
@@joshredman3054but Nintendo is the epitome of it all
I still dont know how the Nexomon developers got away with all the things they copied , those games have been copying more of Pokemon than Palworld ever did and Nintendo didnt sue them afaik.
As for Nintendo and Gamefreak , they make so much money doing the bare minimum , because they know people will still buy their games anyway.
I mean Violet and Scarlet are really poorly optimized with 5 -10 fps , pop ins everywhere , and other issues , while they look like they came where made in the Gamecube era.
They keep releasing new DLC's ( which where expensive aswell) and updates into the game , but fixing the problems is too much to ask for.
Pokemon creator also got the idea from ultraman/ultraseven capsule monsters.The original name of Pokemon was Capumon for capsule monsters, but they thought they would get sued by Tsuburaya, and so they changed it to Pokemon for pocket monsters.
@@Craftsingles1 Can they removed Palworld from the Steam?
Palworld will stay on top.
@@Scosher This is not a copyright lawsuit, but a patent lawsuit that Nintendo has been preparing for months. No doubt Nintendo will win and Pocket Pair will have to pay billions of yen to Nintendo.
nintendo at bottom
@@Scosher player count says otherwise
@@実は弱い五条悟 And you know whats sad if they do win all that money their games may still be shit xD
@@CriminalityIsMid Nitendo made 11 billion dollars last year. Way more then Blizzard.
In Japanese business culture, there's a unique practice regarding patents.
Companies often obtain patents not to monopolize an invention, but to ensure it can be freely used while preventing malicious actors from monopolizing it themselves.
Generally, small indie game developers, for instance, won't be sued for using such patented technologies.
The patent holder typically only pursues legal action when they judge there's malicious intent against the original creator.
Is this approach uncommon in other countries?
Patents are a way to restrict creativity and stop people from creating better iterations of a single idea. Like the nemesis system from shadows of mordor.
Patents exist for corporate bullying of smaller companies, nothing more. Any money you give to nintendo is put towards actively making the game industry worse for everyone.
@@QuestionQuestionMark You meant "That is not common in my country", right? OK I got it.
@@QuestionQuestionMark
To say things without knowing the background of this case is proof of stupidity. They used other patents, made it look like they created it, and tried to get a license for it, which is the problem this time. And you idiots scream that the monster ball is the problem. You people need to learn about “intellectual property”. It's a noble right, and Pocket Pair should be punished for promoting it with their own face.
@@minapinit means, its a stupid idea. It’s one thing to patent the Nintendo Switch, or the 3DS, but it’s another thing to patent literal game mechanics. This lawsuit is clearly bullshit and Nintendo is going to try and drag out this lawsuit to fuck over Palworld
My cynical brain can't accept the idea that Nintendo stands to gain/not-lose more money by killing Palworld than if they were to allow it to coexist in a spirit of friendly competition.
Nintendo doesn't make good enough Pokémon games. In the same way Palworld DIDN'T steal the pal designs, Nintendo should NOT steal Palworld's game design and make a comparable product with their own underutilized IP.
We literally could live in a world where money is printed by both games, and everyone wins. There are people choosing to kill fun.
Nintendo don't make survival games .. nor do they make PC games .. they don't have a case whatsoever.
Gamefreak makes bad Pokemon games
It's the evil spirit of: "It's not enough that I win, it's also that you must lose!"
my man, not even debating nintendo being dicks here but this could have been avoided by palworld, they just needed to have original designs and not copy paste some pokemon basically 1:1, but that would have cost money and time and they were too lazy for it, so they kinda deserve it.
@DennisGr How about stop telling people things you don't know about including what you got from a bunch of people that want to make a case for Nintendo when their own games are so terrible?
Making "Zelda with guns" would be god-tier trolling.
They already did. Look up Craftopia
Never heard of it, I will look into it.
@@cedricol the devs that made Palworld made Craftopia. It came out years before Palworld
Isn't that genshin? Or is genshin more zelda with gacha?
@@wadenbeisser2491 Both Genshin and Craftopia are inspired by Breath of the Wild.
Just bought a two steam decks directly from steam and giving one to my family as a gift. Nintendo doesn't deserve shit with these tyrannical lawsuits.
Nintendo was just waiting for them to become big enough to cause the maximum possible emotional damage
Yup they’re brutal
No, to get maximum money. These soulless corporations don't know what emotions are.
I don't think they wouldhave cared if Palworld wasn't a financial success. They may be petty to go after smaller devs and projects with the force of their strongest lawyers, but ones with any ounce of validity gets the full force of every combat-bred lawyer they have and legendary rocket launchers.
Nah, they've been working for months ad barely got a case but they have to sue anyways to keep everyone afraid
@danielpirez381 It's been discovered that the patent Nintendo is using to sue them was registered after Palworld came out, making it useless
Nintendo never ceases to amaze me with how petty they are
It’s not petty it’s pathetic
Maybe people should try making an original game, and copy nothing from Nintendo. Just a thought. Morons just can't help it.
@@QuantumNovayou are so right. Like how game freak copied from dragon quest. What morons, amirite?
That's why we wont let them fucking win. Nintendo need to have consequences for their actions. They will win if we do nothing at all.
@@QuantumNovaOr maybe Nintendo should start making good pokemon games that people want.
what's crazy is that palworld is just ark to me, yet nintendo has the nerve to say it's a pet battler clone of pokemon lol
If you already payed for Palworld on steam they ain’t deleting it from your library no matter what
Steam might not, but I believe they are both capable of doing so and legally allowed to do so in the US due to fucked up EULA conditions and the US's weak consumer protections
palwold is also better version of minecraft if you think about it for building and world exploring
@@ravenspurplebeats5412 the building could use some work, they should try to emulate the building system from Valheim or Enshrouded
@@ravenspurplebeats5412 In my mind, Palworld is closer to Valheim than it is to Minecraft. Minecraft is heavily focused on crafting and, I believe, offers much more flexibility in that regard.
Is there anything similar to minecraft's red blocks in Palworld? I never played far enough to find out myself.
@@clovermite if you dont think of whole cube shape, you build houses and bases on minecraft still but few games have feature/mechanic of building own bases also as ark is also like that and that has been known to be compared with palworld.
The American side of Nintendo started this lawsuit and they're accusing Pocketpair of 'patent' infringement, not copyright, which means that they're not accusing them of stealing, they're accusing them of using similar mechanics like capturing monsters in a ball. The problem is that Pokèmon is not the first game where capturing monsters in a device was a mechanic. Dragon Quest had that mechanic long before that when it was published by Enix (now Square Enix). And Palworld has been in development since 2021 and many of the mechanics, like ball capturing, has been known since 2022 and the patent by Nintendo was only applied last year so it's definitely malicious.
lmao we don't capture DQ beasts in balls dummy, the Monster Ball (Pokeballs) are very unique design wise.
@@Amplifymagic I didn't say that Dragon Quest captured monsters in balls, I said it had a monster capturing *device.* I'm just saying Pokèmon wasn't the first game to have that mechanic.
@@Amplifymagic not the point and not revelant, the fact is that the pattented it in 2022 and palworld was in development SINCE 2021 or so.
Imagine if palworld patented it and tried to sue nintendo, it's the same fcking sh!t
The idea of catching monsters in a ball is, imo, a more advanced and literal take on the idea of entities possessing an item. We may not know the exact details of how such technology works but that's because it's fantasy. Imo it isn't something Nintendo should have the power to claim ownership of and just because they're trying doesn't mean they have a valid point.
If Palworld has to make changes, I can cope. I won't be happy about it, but I'd rather have a changethan no palworld at all.
The patent doesn't protect a game mechanic that allows you to capture a monster, it's much more specific than that.
Whaat makes the the lawsuit even more funny is that they arent sueing Ark, in Ark you can get spheres/balls, to also storge battle monsters/companions and you throw the ball at them to catch them, or throw it to unleash them, i get theres a few other things involved but, the premise is still there. I also understand you dont catch a wild dino in a ball like these games but the patent still includes that definition.
Dude i bought this and never played it. I hope palworld wins, I fucking hate Nintendo's propensity to sue.
I feel ya man. I played it a bit but my current setup isn't good enough to properly run it, so I'm waiting for an upgrade before really getting into it.
i hate patents
Better play now just in case brother
They really are the fun police.
same... im a person who dont like to replay games. It lookes very fun, so i got it early and witing for the finished product... and now i might not get to play it at all becouse of some greedy ultra rich people.
Nintendo acting like pokemon isnt just a copy of Shin Megami Tensei games but for kids.
I trust that FitGirl will have a version (or already had one). Nintendo can’t stop that.
Even if, we will never get the full release if that happens.
Not sure about Fitgirl but before I buy my copy of Palworld I downloaded from a website I trust and till this day it's still having the new builds uploaded and when I played I remember even online mode used to work on those builds, so dw there's people around the world working on it 👍
I'd also like to add that the game is fully made in Unreal Engine, which is pretty easy to make content/mods
Nintendo will never stop the community of this game
Fitgirl and dodi have been very upset to date with the updates. I'm bout to secure my back up now lol
Do not talk about fight club.
I highly doubt they will remove the game from Steam and Xbox. They might have to pay for damages and/or change the pal spheres to something else but I don’t think Nintendo can have the game removed due to a few patents.
That's literally what patents and copyright is for
@@kylespevak6781 It's what it's for, doesn't mean it's what it does. These sorts of things are deemed invalid and dropped all the time.
@@kylespevak6781 No, patents and copyright are for protecting intellectual property. Paying damages and changing the infringing items serves the purpose of the patent and/or copyright. Companies definitely abuse the system to try to get stuff taken down, but that's definitely not their purpose.
Pal cubes incoming lul
@@iggypop666666 lol yes
Pocketpair should patent everything unique about Palworld. Prevent the pokemon company/Nintendo from making a game similar to Palworld to capitalize on this.
Palworld doesn't have trade evolutions
As far as I know pals don't change at all, like no sort of evolutions. So more than not just having trade evolutions.
*any evolutions
It better not get removed from Steam, I'll be so mad at Nintendo. They're getting way too Ballsy with all these takedowns lately
Stop coping they treat us consumers like shit and any indie studio even WORSE Nintendo are scum that have good IPs
i paid full price for mine on steam and im wanting to keep it on my library no matter the cost.
Well as long as you have it in your library it will be like FNAF World, or Deadpool.
You can redownload it repeatedly even if it was delisted
@@electrobob992wait for real? You can do that? I always thought that if the game is removed from steam, you can never redownload it or even play an installed one without cracks
Don't forget about Game freak they are involved with this too I'll be very piss off if they got removed on steam
Nintendo can't force a game to be deleted because customers already buy the game, if this was possible, then their company that made Palworld would need to refund people back their money, after all they can't play the game they got with their money.
Pokemon but 2 steps ahead
Daym boys 8 month prepare... There no chance here men.
WRONG 10 steps dont forget the devs actualy care for you trashtendo are play our game loser give us your money
this has been the greatest social experiment by pocketpair
Wish Id like it, but im just not a fan of survival or crafting. When I see him open the inventory with all those items...blah =/ Id have loved to see Blizzard survival game if they could had made it better for somebody like me. Survival games have way to much to learn - Like I can load into Raft, or smaller indie survival, and its just confusing and not obvious.
Nintendo be like, so I'm the villian!!!
employee: palworld is so good. let make our next pokemon better.
nintendo CEO: no no NO. thats too much money and time to develop. we will just sue poketpair and make our next pokemon game like the previous one but with a lil bit of gimmick
joke of the century
add to this that employee who will even try to say something like that will be fired and you get reality. pokemon is a conveyor game - they could shit them out every month if they wanted and for barely a fistful of yen. so all thats left is to make sure that people dont have alternatives.
Western people are easily incited and have no ability to verify
Nintendo has always opened up its game technology patents to all creators for free use.
If Nintendo is really evil, they could destroy more than half of the world's games
But Nintendo rarely sues other games over patents
The most fundamental reason why Nintendo sued Palworld is because Palworld completely disrespects Nintendo.
In 2021, the producer of Palworld publicly mocked Nintendo and Pokémon on Twitter
Then he started making Palworld
It’s no surprise that Palworld will of course have to use Nintendo’s gaming technology
And Palworld contains a lot of Pokémon-like designs
Palworld a big success
And join Nintendo's biggest commercial enemy Sony
That is to say
Palworld teases Nintendo
Palworld uses game technology created by Nintendo
Palworld copies many of Nintendo's ideas
Palworld joins Nintendo's biggest business foe
Now Palworld is pretending to be the victim and trying to win over all independent game studios which makes me sick.
And the Western people actually thinks it’s Nintendo’s fault
You guys are ridiculous
idk how people are defending them the notification sound effect for entering a new area was stolen from Zelda this entire game is a slap in the face
Go cry Nintendo fan boy. They created the whole scenes and design in Unreal5. So they didn’t copy code or anything from Nintendo cause they don’t use ur5. You lose
Somehow, a game that really pissed Nintendo to the point of using the ninja lawyer, lived WAY longer than concord... Impressive Palworld
come on man why insult any game compering it to concord i defend nitendo but thats too far
@@konstantinos-iliasstrempas4594 True, I shouldn't have done that, I'm sorry palworld, I was too harsh
Nintendo ninja never late, aren't they?
Nintendo has always been famous for nasty tactics. Back in the day they wanted to file a lawsuit against Blockbuster for videogame rentals, they threatened retailers about selling Tengen titles during their legal battle against Atari Games by telling them they would stop providing NES consoles and games if they started selling Tengen titles in their stores and the list goes and goes and goes...
One of my favorites is when they shut down Mario Royale, and they're completely justified in shutting down indie projects using their assets and do it all the time, but the real rub is when, 1 year later, they made the same game (but not as good in every possible way) with Mario 99.
Nintendo isn’t known for nasty tactics; they’re famous for defending their property from unscrupulous companies. Like right now, they’re protecting themselves from a company that’s using their patent without permission.
@@jkd610 That's the lamest bait I've read in the entire week, try harder with it
@@jkd610 you catch any fish with that bait?
日本人の多くが PalworldのCEOを嫌いな理由
日本人は失礼なやつと模倣作品がとにかく嫌い そこが欧米とのこの問題に対する意見の差
1.個人のXにてポケモンに対し敬意を欠いた投稿をしている（AIで作ったポケモンを引用し揶揄する）
2.模倣作品なのは明らかなのにオリジナルのIP作品としてアニメなどの展開をしようとしている
（SONYやアニメ制作会社と提携を発表している）
3.先日出した訴訟に対する声明で自分たちは小さな会社が委縮するのを危惧していると発表したが
すでに小さな会社ではない。売り上げを考えれば明らか
4.Palworldの制作会社は他の作品も模倣ではないかという疑いが強い作品が多い
5.任天堂は普段、著作権侵害や特許の訴えは明らかな模倣作品に対してのみ行っており
おおくの小さいゲーム制作会社に対して支援を行い特許技術の使用を許している
6.失礼な敬意を欠いた態度をとったり利益の独占を行おうとしている会社にのみ訴訟を行っている
著作権ではなく特許で訴えているのは裁判の勝率やかかる時間を考慮したものだろう
私、個人的にはゲームが面白ければどうでもいいが日本人と欧米でユーザーの
意見に大きな違いがあるので紹介してみました。 通訳機能がうまくできるといいのですが。。。
Most of the Nintendo lawsuit is fight against art usage.
The only one patent lawsuit recently was against White Cat Project (COLOPL).
*Nintendo sue COLOPL because they registered some Nintendo's gameplay as new patent and sold to another company.
Nintendo communicated COLOPL for a year before suing them but pocketair didn't know everything before that.
That make me feel strange about this.
Sony and Aniplex have partnered to develop Palworld's licensing business with three companies.
(Palworld Entertainment, Inc.)
Palworld Mobile is being developed by the developer of PUBG.
I think that's why Nintendo decided to sue.
Pocketpair is no longer an indie game company
I think the licensing business is exactly the same as COLPL Punicon because it is exactly about patents and copyrights
@@bixbu9844 That one of Asian thought.
I will go and try to know another thing: did Nintendo sue someone for business competition after Satoru Iwata become CEO?
@@ninedays1024 Intellectual property infringement lawsuit granted AROUND $15 MILLION for Pocket Monster Reissue (Chinese name “口袋妖怪：复刻”) made by a Chinese company.
This is one of six lawsuits filed by Nintendo against six Chinese companies.
Three of the remaining companies were ordered to bear joint and several liability for a portion of the damages, but two companies have appealed.
@@bixbu9844 That game was shamelessly using Pokémon's title, name, design and Pokémon anime's character to make into a P2W mobile game.
You can even say that it is not a business competition lawsuit but an ordinary plagiarism lawsuit for that
Saying "Only level 14s" and "only miners" as a double entendre is hilarious
no
@@thomgizziz Yes
@@Foxercide no(btw what are we talking about)
@@GlitchingMind Someone can't take a joke; @thomgizziz
Whike talking about sl4vry and breeding on top of it lmao
Nah, this wont be shut down, even if they win, they just change the mechanic on how to capture pals and all this bs foundation collapses lol.
So sad Nintendo instead of making a game people wanted they decided to just sue other games that are smaller then them so only they have a monopoly on these specific type of games
Literally not at all. This game rips character designs from Pokemon. If it didn't, there'd be no grounds to sue
That's not what they're sueing for@@kylespevak6781
The games devs are not the law firm and Gamefreak are the ones that work on the Pokemon games and you know what they are working on now legends AZ...
@@kylespevak6781no that's just stupid bro suing someone over a similar designs are stupid justifying is also stupid
@@kylespevak6781 the lawsuit's about game mechanics, not pal designs
I doubt palworld will die from this
@@DeejayMC25 This is not a copyright lawsuit, but a patent lawsuit that Nintendo has been preparing for months. No doubt Nintendo will win and Pocket Pair will have to pay billions of yen to them.
@@実は弱い五条悟 It all depends on how the patent holds up in court. Regardless it is very a scumbag action for them to patent a game mechanic, that is like cinema directors copyrighting a way to film a movie.
Nintendo is a bad company, i hope pocketpair wins.
@@実は弱い五条悟nah it's not certain. the game was in the making before Nintendo patented the idea. It hope it won't hold up.
@@実は弱い五条悟That's a giant assumption
@@wildeyshere_paulkersey853 This guy is spamming the same message on every comment in here. Must be a massive Pokemon fanboy or something. Palworld is now with Sony and that means - two planets colliding. Although i really hate Sony, but at least Palworld is not alone against those Nintendo a**holes.
The big Pikachu guy carrying the mini gun will never not be amazing
Anybody remembering Tem Tem? The game that literally was a Pokemon MMO with mechanics even more similar to Pokemon than Palworld. Yet Tem Tem still exists to this day and even has a Switch Port. I guess Tem Tem wasnt that much of a financial success for Nintendo to think it would pose a threat to them but Palworld apparently is, although its far more different to Pokemon than Tem Tem is.
TemTem is older than the patent itself, and TemTem's mechanics are different in the sense that it doesn't fall under the scope of the patent anyway.
@@salihkizildag so is palworld technically
@@drangstveitmarkno, the priority date for the patents is december 2021
I hope we dont lose pal world. :(
I don't think asmons own fans realize he plays games off stream, typically not onstream unless paid to or it's a really good social-esk game.
Honestly fuck Nintendo.
Really sucks man.. I'm sure myself and a lot of other people either grew up with a Sega or a Nintendo. Sega's still around technically for their IPs. Nintendo is basically the Disney of thegame industry, with classic IPs and the gradual transformation into an entity that tends to be shitty towards anything and anyone that impinges upon or competes with the complete dominance of their IPs.
yeah honestly, the only reason I don't want them to go fcking bankrupt if for some nostalgia, some IPs and the switch, but they mfers kinda deserve it for just shutting down and making sh!t pokemon games.
But I swear I hated nintendo ever since the Pokemon Roblox game shut down.
And TO THIS DAY it's still on, you just need to find the correct "cover up" game to play it, it changes every couple weeks to stay hidden, but losing my progress killed my interest in the game honestly
They aren't getting a penny from me anymore, that's for sure. If they're gonna be petty and go oit of their way to squash any kind of fun, then I'm gonna be petty in going out of my way to not support them. I know I'm only one person and make no financial impact on them but I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.
Pokemon: steals ideas from dozen of sources.
Aswell Pokemon: lawsuit other for stealing ideas.
its not "stealing" if its not patented. which is why nintendo patents everything. literally. everything.
@@Kurayami_13 "Stealing is fine as long as you claim you own it permenantly after you do it."
Palworld > All pokemon games since Ruby/Saphire
Not even comparable
Honestly the idea of pokemon has just lost it’s flavor over the time and is just not as enjoyable as it used to be
Nintendo legal ninjas strike again
If Pocketpair doesn't back down, I seriously think they will have a chance. If they took months to find something wrong with the game then they were probably searching for the smallest little thing to attack which would probably be the gameplay patent. If they win, then they've opened up the Pandora's box for copyright law since now the first ever action movie could strike all other action movies for using the overpowered one man army patent, DOOM can strike every FPS game for using first person for their shooter, Atlus can strike all monster tamer/battler games, including pokemon etc.
It makes no sense and no patent should be copyrightable.
I understand that copyright law is there to help, but because it is so poorly enforced and loosely defined, we'd be better off without it until it gets it's shit together
Let me get straight to the point: I do not like Palworld's core of design and I think the CEO's statement is inappropriate.
I know people in the Western regions generally don't have a favorable view of Nintendo.
Initiate keyboard war here no doubt is digging one's own grave.
So I don't have any attempt explain or arguing what's going on with this lawsuit, and it will be all in vain.
I sincerely hope an influential person can do the investigation and thoroughly to make this case more clear to the public ,and correctly.
Though people talking about it or not will never interfere the result of the lawsuit.
Still, I hope people can identify what is right and what is wrong without hatred.
Really, and sincerely.
Been so long since Pokemon had actual competiton. I hope Palworld wins the lawsuit.
I'm hopeful they will, if the judge has any common sense, this is clearly malicious case.
Unless they pay off the judge or something I think they have a very large chance. They didn't invent the concept of capturing monsters.
Only bad side is that we’re talking about Nintendo here…
@@exoticdachoo007 I think what nintendo plans to do is try to stall the case as long as they can to try and make pocketpair go bankrupt through legal fees, if this is the case then their even bigger sacks of shit than i ever realized.
Had plenty. You people just don't care because they're not as popular. Literally DOZENS.
Nintendo shouldn't sue them, it should compete against them and release their own version of this game.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo releases their own Pal(Poké)world if they win the lawsuit and get Palworld removed... of course more kid friendly, more expensive, with a ton of expensive DLC's etc. to milk their fanbase.
so... comics pokemon
They don't have the balls to admit their mechanics are basically sl4very lol
Nintendo would rather watch the company burn instead of trying to put even the tinest bit of effort into their pokemon games.
@@Ms._Crimson They did it with Mario Royale (into the far more flawed Mario 99), so yeah, I could see that. But yeah, like sevenseven said, I'm not sure they'd put in the legitimate effort that they need (although, as always, certainly have the resources for)
And I know Nintendo =/= Gamefreak/Pokemon company, but it doesn't matter. They're both lazy.
So Nintendo might not win... They're filing the suit over a patent (different from copyright) in Japan... Japan is strict on copyright, but patents are not copyright... So the stuff about similarities between designs of the creatures is all irrelevant as that'd be a copyright infringement if anything not patent infringement which would be more like Nintendo claiming ownership of a gameplay mechanic or something... The exact patent isn't clear, but last I checked Nintendo does not own the concept of catching critters... You do that in TemTem and WoW with the pets that likewise do battling after being captured... So Nintendo seems to not think they own any of that or else they would've enforced it elsewhere before Palworld... Beyond that, what else could Nintendo possibly own about Palworld? The rest of the game is far more like Fortnite or you're typical survival game than anything relating to Nintendo or The Pokemon Company (also involved in the lawsuit suggesting it's to do with Pokemon specifically and not Zelda)...
So I just have no idea what patented aspect of Pokemon was infringed upon by Palworld but not other games such as TemTem...
And its not like TemTem didn't get a TON of publicity with people saying "It's like Pokemon"
Isn't it obvious that nintendo did this because palworld devs said they will make some moblie shit with sony? Like literally they didn't do it to genshin. why would they do this exept this the timing fits perfectly. Why are people like i'm surprised it took then 6 months to do this
I think your guess is as good as mine.
Sony and Aniplex have partnered to develop Palworld's licensing business with three companies.
(Palworld Entertainment, Inc.)
Palworld Mobile is being developed by the developer of PUBG.
I think that's why Nintendo decided to sue.
Pocketpair is no longer an indie game company
A Nintendo lawyer is never late, Yamaguchi, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to!
no.
Peak.shady business man style. Truly the corporate of all time
What a world. "How dare you not play games!"
It was a matter of time till Dicktendo sue them.
And just to be clear - no Nintendo technically has no right to sue and win with someone who came out with a similar ideas and designs. They own no exclusivity for it and none of assets owned by Nintendo got copied.
Pokemons in fact are not even Nintendo's original idea - as they are based on creatures from Dragon Quest.
Palworld really change his life for the last time
一応、任天堂は多くの特許侵害は見逃しています。ルビーサファイアのほぼ丸パクリのインディーズゲームのことは、任天堂は知りつつも訴訟を起こしていません。ただし相手が一線を超えた場合は訴訟を起こします。白猫プロジェクトとの訴訟が有名です。海外と日本で大衆のリアクションにここまで差が出ることは少し興味深いです。
agree
This is because the West is largely a free market economy. Japan values tradition, whereas the West wants to have competitors, to compete with each other, to improve, to make better products. The current Pokémon is a great IP, but the current game itself is just bad, and as much as it has fans in the West, the opposite is also true.
@@이글日本人としては、任天堂は業界の為になるなら黙認する企業だと思っているので、今回の件は何かが起きたのだと思っています。以前は任天堂の特許と同じものを自分達が作ったと自称した企業は訴訟を起こされました。特許を使うだけなら黙認されていました。だから不思議に思います。
ちなみに「任天堂は金の為に小さい者を潰しにかかった。市場を独占する為だ」などと言っている人の意見は論外です。
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I'm trying to write a westerner's perspective but RUclips is repeatedly blocking my comments.
Nintendo saw Palworld sponsor CdawgVA's charity stream and said hell naw we can't have a pokemon-alike sponsoring anything good in this world.
no, this lawsuit is for copyright infringement
@@mementomori1553 No it's not. It's for patent infringement
@mementomori1553 how about you check your facts before speaking? Its literally 1 google search away
@@mementomori1553 its for a patent infringement
Nah it’s being announced on ps5 at Tokyo games
that's because Sony is funding Pocketpair now, and getting delisted off Steam is not the same thing as the Playstore.
@@AmplifymagicEven if Nintendo wins, it'll only affect the game in Japan, not anywhere else.
(Just some of the outcomes of losing/settle)
Nothing really happens after the companies make a deal of some sort, everyone can still play and new players can purchase on Steam.
On Steam the game is taken off the store but everyone that already has the game can keep playing it. No new players can purchase.
The game has to be patched to remove certain game mechanics and replace it with slightly different ones. Game continues to be a success.
There's probably way worse options.
Dude, where's my Pal?
I got scared for a second that it actually got deleted
Most people here have the wrong perception. Nintendo is suing for “patent infringement” and the details of what they are suing for have not yet been made public. The only thing that can be determined from the information that is currently available is that Pocket Pair's attempt to use Nintendo's patents to create an IP was not a good idea. Nintendo's stance was that although they had acquired the patent, it was basically free and they could use it. But if they used it and then claimed that it was a system they created, of course it would be reasonable for them to be sued.
nintendo has already been going downhill and this is a nail in the coffin for me. this was so extremely scummy of nintendo to do.
womp womp, the game was dead until the news broke, don't kid yourself, 98% player drop off 2 weeks in, who cares.
And it wasn't scummy for the devs to take content for their original game, abandon said game and all those promises to cut the content and stitch it together and sell it as a new game?
That's why I have stop support them since wii day
This that's why I stop support them since wii day
Gone down hill? Pokemon is garbage but the switch has a fantastic library. Dont kid yourself lol
I don't see Palworld being removed. I think the claims Nintendo used to sue are specious at best and weren't the ones they stood the best chance of prevailing with. More than likley there will be some kind of settlement whereas Palworld makes changes and pays Nintendo some sort of settlement fee and that would be the likely best outcome for Nintendo. I think Palworld actually has a chance to win this which would be a first time I am aware of a loss for Nintendo.
Unfortunately Nintendo will probably win even though they claim “patent infringement” and it’s unclear what patents PalWorld could have possibly infringed.
0:22 i can see that KCD in your library - cmon touch it at least once
Before KCD 2!
I started playing it last month.
Jesus Christ be praised.
It's amazing. I hated it for the first 5 hours, and now it's one of my favorite games of all time. So freaking good.
@@M98747 ya well getting punched becomes more tolerable after dealing with it for five straight hours and i would literally rather do that than play KCD and I gave it nearly twice that amount of time as a chance
So apparently Nintendo is sue on the grounds of how you capture pals in the game which is stupid because there are hundreds of games with almost if not the same mechanics in games
It isn't just that. There are a few patents that Nintendo owns that they're going to ding Palworld on, not just the capturing of creatures in spheres. There's also the change state when going from flying on an object to gliding along the ground while riding an object (You know how when you land while flying, you go into a "ground" mode and have to take off again?) As well as a creatures mood improving upon waking up in a virtual morning (I'm not kidding). Nintendo are being ultra scumbags because many of their patents are very broad mechanics.
Western people are easily incited and have no ability to verify
Nintendo has always opened up its game technology patents to all creators for free use.
If Nintendo is really evil, they could destroy more than half of the world's games
But Nintendo rarely sues other games over patents
The most fundamental reason why Nintendo sued Palworld is because Palworld completely disrespects Nintendo.
In 2021, the producer of Palworld publicly mocked Nintendo and Pokémon on Twitter
Then he started making Palworld
It’s no surprise that Palworld will of course have to use Nintendo’s gaming technology
And Palworld contains a lot of Pokémon-like designs
Palworld a big success
And join Nintendo's biggest commercial enemy Sony
That is to say
Palworld teases Nintendo
Palworld uses game technology created by Nintendo
Palworld copies many of Nintendo's ideas
Palworld joins Nintendo's biggest business foe
Now Palworld is pretending to be the victim and trying to win over all independent game studios which makes me sick.
And the Western people actually thinks it’s Nintendo’s fault
You guys are ridiculous
We should boicot and protest nintendo
How about no
@@sailingadventurer are you nintendo agent?
Gonna be hard when next year sees the release of one of the most anticipated Nintendo games of all time...
what's the likely hood of that working?
Wont work cause there are people who have never heard of pal world like me till i saw this or just doesn’t give a shit
go for swift, runner, legend, and infinite stamina
Does Nintendo not understand that they would look amazing if they didn't try to sue everyone?
They most likely do not care unfortunately.
@@maniacmatt7340Yeah kids don’t care about who’s creating their games, and they’re like 80% of Nintendo player base
They absolutely do not care. Their arsenal of patents is meant to give them a legal pseudo-monopoly over in Japan. Won't need to care anymore if everyone is forced to come to you for what they want anyway.
They don't need to worry about their image. People will buy their stuff no matter how bad they look.
looking amazing wont bring super profits - being a monopoly does. so what if nintedo failed to deliver good pokemon game in around 15 years? people still buy them and will continue to do so cause they are trained like Pavlovian dogs to do so and have 0 alternatives.
Here's the thing with copyright laws
People with the most money are the ones who largely benefit from such laws
Smaller companies just get out earned by the larger ones
The theory around copyright is it allows smaller creators to protect their works but in reality it tends to do the opposite
The larger company will just throw money at the case till they win
I know Nintendo isn't suing for copyright, but I truly believe had Palworld not blatantly stolen so much character art with only minor alterations, they never would have been successful or on Nintendo's radar.
Aaa the company that make the same exact carbon copy game every few years with the same title since they run out of idea thus the shamelessly known as the milking pokemon and mario organization, Nintendog
I used to love nintendo but their behavior lately while still wearing a big corpo smile just makes me enraged
Nintendo has got nothing, they absolutely do not deserve to win this one.
The will. I can imagine they already prepared all the major judges to be on their side.
What's even more funny is how they took the Pokémon idea and made a better game than the OG's because mostly they just create Repetitive Pokémon games with nothing to little that is new lol
thats the part that players want from pokemon, is the same game with new designs. but the last few pokemon games were developed like they were thrown together in a 2 week binge of fried chicken and coffee
Every new Pokemon game is the same as the last plus a new mechanic they force you to use, like Z-moves and mega evolutions.
lol this Ark clone was dead 3 weeks after it launched, losing 98% of the player base, stop lying to yourself.
And palworlds isn't? Lol. Go capture pet, make work, run same clunky dungeons. Get tier 2, make work, run same clunky dungeons but slightly harder. As if this game adds ANYTHING new to the survival genre lol. Hurr durr Nintendo bad.
@@Crusader3454 Only after 25 years of creating that precedent. They've basically raised fans with no standards. If they took a bit more time and care with each rendition of Pokemon, it'd be miles better than it is right now, and I don't think any of the fans would've had an issue with that approach, if they'd started doing it long ago. Now though, yeah they are kinda stuck, they'd probably burn a few fans if they actually tried to change things up, they'd get over it though.
Nintendo shoulden't even be able to win the lawsuit. None of the pals are in pokemon, there is no copyright of balls that catch monsters either.
I hope pocket pair wins this. Nintendo messed up waiting too long to file. Pocket pair, Sony, and Aniplex formed a new company over palworld called Palworld Entertainment. So pocket pair has some big hitters behind them
Nintendo to me is a compnay that has only survived by milking peoples nostalgia. I cant really think of a single game thats actually original or a series that isnt just a copy of a copy.
If Palworld wins this lawsuit I'll finally buy it and give it a whirl
I think Nintendo has created a situation for themselves of "damned if they do, damned if they dont." If they win, people will no longer support pokemon, and if they don't win, they'll still lose fan support of pokemon. They should've sued poketpair when people "exposed" the similarities a long time ago. Don't wait after they become a success.
This is literal sabotage, and they know poket pair would have to hold off development of future projects, AND spend loads of money to defend themselves from this lawsuit.
This lawsuit is a patent lawsuit about a game mechanic or mechanics in pal world not a copyright lawsuit.
Nintendo could also have planned this out; they wait for Pocket Pair to succeed, learn everything that PP did well or not, then shut them down and make their own version. It's like fattening chicken before butchering it.
You can't just insta sue a company. They've probably been working on this for a LONG time.
All eyes are on Pokémon's actions, but Palworld's actions should also be watched.
ポケモン側の行動ばかり注視されていますが、パルワールド側の行動も見るべき
There is a Mercy Hit ring and Pals can have the Mercy Hit passive to keep pals at 1 HP (DoT can still defeat pals like poison or fire damage)
I love Nintendo, but I know that they definitely make a lot of really stupid decisions…
Smh😑
I hope Palworld wins.🙏🏾
Nintendo lately is one of the shittiest game related companies
Nintendo suing palworld over a capture mechanic would be like Battlefield suing another fps game for using destruction or something like that I'm sure that's not the best comparison but it's not that far off. Games have been borrowing ideas and stealing mechanics forever but palworld throwing a ball to capture a creature is a big enough deal to get courts involved? Fucking crazy.
Just make sure Palworld is in your library. That way if things start looking sketch with the case you can download it again before Steam pulls it