How To Remove BMW N47 / N57 Intake Manifold
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Find out exactly how to remove the intake manifold on the BMW N47 engine. This is stage 1 of removing the engine to replace the timing chain.
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Took me 4 hours most of which was cleaning manifold out 20 mins to reassemble, test drive perfect, sounds like it's able to breath power up ency smooth. delighted .
Wasn't sure but tonight I removed actuator sensor as was getting weird codes 0f $07EC and $07BC ...p0401 maf i think.reset clear codes issue disappeared and so did bouncy revs counter. Ordered few pipes anyway in post. I'll see if any issues arise.
How do you clean the manifolds on the engine block without getting any of the dirt into the engine?
Fantastic video look far a wide for a indepth video because I had the same issue where all the bolts were loose but it was still in place pretty solid so thanks for showing that it's helped massively
Boys and girls, if you gleaned this sort of in-depth detailed knowledge down the pub from a helpful fella like George.......surely you’d buy him a pint? So if he’s helped you, send the lad a fiver or a tenner like I did a couple o days back please, the PayPal link is effortless and takes 1 minute, and you’ll feel good for doing it! He’s the go to man on my n47 1 series 2007, by far!
Appreciate that mate👊🏻
I found it such a messy job,but worth doing as two swirl flaps were completely snapped off,bar had snapped ,only held in place by the soot and gunk!!!
Also changed the Glow Plugs while the air intake was off,so good job in total.
So helpful. A glad that this engine is the same with my 120d 1 series 57 plate
Beautiful thanks I want to do this to my 328d as preventative maintenance at least clean just the manifold by itself I wouldn’t try anything myself on the head.
Great video. Did this to my e92 320d (n47) and it worked.
No problem man!
Tip for stopping the bolts/screws from dropping back down is to put a bit of electrical around the shaft. I do this when fitting ventilation units when you don't want washers to keep dropping down the threaded bar and getting in the way of the lugs.
Good call fella, a bit of blue tak works as well👌
Wow. Glad i found your channel.
Looks like i have a big project this May/june
What is the best way to clean the inlet ports
Really appreciate this. Was trying to use a Haynes manual but couldn't follow it. This was perfect. But man, that inlet manifold is stuck on pretty tight, eh? Cheers buddy.
Glad to help man and yes they are very stuck!
@@GeorgeAusters yea if I hadn't have seen your video I would have assumed I'd missed a fastener somewhere.
Got mine off and it turns out BMW must have resigned the manifold. There's no swirl flaps on my n47 from a 2010 116d and it looks like factory, no modifications that I can see. Have you heard of this? It still has two open ports per cylinder but always open. Seems bizarre.
Anyway, great videos man. Enjoying going through them
Do you disconnect the battery to do this?
This would be the same (almost) for the B47 engine?
Great video mate!
Wish me luck, im making a start on this now. Managed to get all my tools ready. Will also do the soak the glow plug with wd40.
Lol i think ive watched this video 4 times now.
Good luck!
@@GeorgeAusters
this was a tuff job. Yesterday spent 2.30hours trying to undo the electrical wiring looms, the clip connector next to the egr was a pain, some connectors that i couldnt remove i just sprayed it with wd40.
Today. From. 7.30am to 11.30am managed to remove the manifold. After that spent till 2pm.cleaning it.
Thanks George for the video man, was a pain job but was fun doing it.
Any tips on how to change the fuel quantity control valve?
Absolute legend, thank you for doing this video ❤️
You’re welcome!
Hi, thank you for a great and detailed video.
I drive an E71 X6 N57. Is the process still the same (scuttle panel needs removing etc).
Thanks again
Likely yes
Good and clean job
Great stuff... recently acquired an E61 520d and yeah... pretty sure the timing chain needs doing. Seemed fine until a recent oil change by BMW where suddenly I can really hear it once warmed up :( You're a local too in Coventry... so will be following your videos with interest :) Cheers.
What mileage are you at mate?
@@GeorgeAusters just coming up on 126k...
Yeah 120-140k miles is really when they tend to go
@@GeorgeAusters I am going to try step up to a slightly heavier grade oil.. genuinely motor was fine, went for an oil change at BMW, now there is an increase in valve train (or chain..) noise.. too much of a coincidence in terms of timing. Hoping to find a good 5w40 LL04 and see what that does for me.
@@jimtaylor431 Hi Jim, I think I have exactly the same problem as you. I noticed some metallic drag noise only when the engine is hot and the oil has at least 3 k miles. Did you finally try the 5w40 oil? Did it solve that weird noise? I can almost completely confirm that slightly increasing the viscosity of the oil solves the probem 🤔
Hi, I was just wondering if you have a guide to remove the B47 inlet manifold for a swirl fap delete. And also a guide to remove the EGR in the B47.
George do you have a similar video for the e82 120d (2010) Looking to do this . Although I'd need to follow . I'm assuming most of it is the same
Hi George great videos mate. I have a BMW E61 520d N47 and I am currently having an issue with my Inlet manifold. The actuator rod for the flaps is broken. I am struggling to find a credible source to buy the spare from, do you recommend a place to buy from and if possible a link to it. Cheers
Do you think Febi intake will ok to replace the failing one ? The original one its 1000€ but Febi its not that expensive
Hi
What's the torque settings for intake manifold bolts?Thanks
Hi George, I just bought a 328d and two weeks later it gave some P2004 intake manifold runner control stuck open and P2453 DPF Differential pressure circuit range/performance.
I took the entire manifold and cleaned it but the the code did not go away so does that mean its time to replace the air intake manifold??
There is also a open EGR coolant recall issued by BMW. Do you think this might be related to the recall?
What do you suggest at this point?
Is this teh same process in 320d F34 2014?
@George Austers great vid....although my N47 manifold waas a little different. More leads it felt like. Question I have is how do you remember where each lead/plug goes? I'm bricking it for the rebuild even thought I've taken 100s of pics!
Coloured tape, ribbons or cable ties
My 2008 520d has a different engine plastic cover, why ?!🤔
Someone must have changed the cover
Lovely videos! I have been trying to fix 520D N47 engine watching your videos.
I got my car tested and the report says “intake manifold leaking boost”. Do you think Its a problem with the gasket?
Thanks for lovely videos anyway, helping me save money because I can’t afford repair costs right now!
Could have a hole in the top if the EGR has stuck open
@@GeorgeAusters thanks very much for your response. I will check
Hopefully my new purchase, 2014 120d F20, with 30,000miles on clock will not need this done anytime soon 😅😅
You’ll be surprised, intakes get clogged up very quickly😅
Hey great video. I’ve got an N57 E90 and glow plugs need changing and seems very tricky to replace without removing the manifold. Is it fairly straightforward on N57? Cheers
Yes it’s possible just tight
Gotta watch this again (and again) to make sure I’ve all the tools as I’ll have no transport obviously.
Haha yeah it’s never good knowing you’re working on your only mode of t transport
I have 3 errors on my tester regarding swirl flaps , i think the car is asking for money 🤦♂️
George, just got my first bmw 328d with 129k miles, the second week it threw codes P2004 (intake manifold runner stuck open) and P2453 and P2454 ( diesel particulate filter differential pressure sensor ciurcut low. There is also a recall on the car for EGR cooler. What should I do? Do I need to clean intake manifold or replace it?
Mine just did the same thing. Did you ever solve the problem?
What did you figure out?
I have just had a go at removing the inlet on my N57. Whilst there are some similarities the N57 also has a few difference which make it a lot more difficult, I ended up bailing out half way through and putting it back together. It can wait for another day when I don't need to use the car for a few days.
This video may help you more! ruclips.net/video/bHhUaoGm0w4/видео.html
Thank you George, I shall take a look. Keep up the great videos.
Cheers Simon!
@george austers. George I have been watching your intake videos trying to get brave enough to go for it. Just one question when cleaning the engine side ports is there a way of checking the valve is closed without removing the cam cover?
Can look down into the ports👍🏻
Oh that simple thanks. Having an N57 inlet swapped as swirl flapare throwing up errors. I cleaned a second hand one the weekend to exchange. What a mess that makes.@@GeorgeAusters
Hi. Greetings from Poland. Can you confirm that the pipe going from the anti shudder valve into the cylinder head isn't screwed to the cylinder head?
Yes
@@GeorgeAustersThank you
Welcome
Thanks for the video. How many miles did your car have at the time of this video? - I'm thinking of a 430d (n57) but seeing so many clogging issues is putting me off :/
120,000 miles
@@GeorgeAusters Oh thats actually not bad. Thanks for replying. Would you recommend these diesels ? - have you had anything major go wrong ?
Check out my N47 common problems videos
I am considering doing this too, because I have a leaking o-ring close to the swirl-gate-actuator. I also would like to clean the intake manifold and check the health of the swirl flaps. I have heard some time that these might fail at some point. My engine has done 350.000km, so it is probably not a bad idea to check the health.
However, I am very hesitant about unplugging a whole bunch of sensors. Don't you get fault codes etc.? And do all the connectors only fit in one other connector? Because I would obviously not want to miss-plug connectors.
Second question: how long did you wiggle the inlet manifold before getting it off? I would be afraid to break something :P
Thank you in advance. Greetings from The Netherlands.
You won't get fault codes from unplugging sensors and then plugging them back in
@@GeorgeAusters Thank you for your swift reply. I have got another question. I am considering to loosen the engine mounts, lift up the engine a little bit, remove the swirl-flap actuator and then pull out the brass swirl flap part you talked about in your other video. (so then I don't need to remove the entire manifold)
Do you think I will be able to put the brass part back after removing it while not miss-aligning the swirl flap's positions? Or is this risky business and should I just remove the manifold?
Hi George, thinking of taking my intake manifold out and give it a clean, do I really need to remove everything you removed in this video ? ie the cabin filters and all that there ? And those exhaust pressure sensor and panel on the other side of the engine?! Thanks
I have an updated video here:
ruclips.net/video/bHhUaoGm0w4/видео.html
@@GeorgeAusters thanks for that.👍✌️
Hello mate , is 184cp engine ?Because the întake is different from 177 one
Going to give this a bash tomorrow, I’ve found my 118d 2011 is almost searching when cold and taking off. Assuming it’s something to do with the swirl flaps or anti shutter valve. Not showing any searching/breathing on the rev counter either. No engine warning light. Anything that I’d need to look out for while doing it? Cheers 👍
118d doesn’t have swirl flaps👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters cheers every days a school day.
You still have this 118d mate?
great work
Halo
I have the same problem my intake manifold stuck ...I'm trying but its move only a little bit from front and i spent 2 hours with out positive result
All 5 bolts are out and fixed out
Have u an idea ?!
Thanks for the video
Hey, mine is stuck too! Did you figure it out?
@@DCandVision @Rami Aldawi Did either or you succeed in removing the manifold? I want to remove mine and worried something may go wrong. thanks
@@Matthew-bb9dk Yea, I did. Just have to wriggle it and use some force, just make sure all bolts are out and the two cables in the back are out of their clips.
The pipe into the engine block from the intake is not screwed in the engine but it can be stuck, so if your able to tap it a few times with a hammer it might help loosen it.
How many kilometers did the engine have?.. Thanks
200,000km
hi i just sucscribe to your channel i just looking for some help please my vw golf mk6 started smoking like mad so after watching tons of videos i decided to change the injectors which stop the smoke but i getting smoke coming from the tubor and i have lost my boost and while driving there somke coming out of the tubor. The intake pipe connect stright onto the tubor. i not giving any fault codes now i afraid to drive it. would you have any ideas put me in the right direction please i dont know where to turn please
is it the same process on the bmw 320d f30 n47.. do you have to remove the rear covers
Yes
@@GeorgeAusters thanks, i have an issue with the egr sticking and possible dpf due to carbon build up so may as well check the intake.. mines a 2014 model.. i dont think swirl flaps are an issue on this year. also need a guide to change the glow plugs
pulled apart the intake, totally coked. including the intakes, the coolers dirty too.. big job for me to clean it all and then put it back together.. also going to change the glow plugs, I've taken images of the job, will finish it next weekend. If i had a spare hand i would record the process so others can see how it fits together on my model.
Do you know if this is a similar process on a b47?
Mate great video, cheers. How the hell did you get the turbo actuator connector off?
Cheers mate. You just squeeze the sides and pull? If it’s the one I’m thinking of
@@GeorgeAusters thanks, seems I'm doing it right, I'm just afraid of breaking it. Back to it 👍
Good video 👍👍👍
Cheers bro!
Can someone tell me what that extension bit is he has on the end of his dewalt drill. I want one
Which extension bit?
This is an impact wrench, not a drill👍🏻
Yes impact wrench. Just the long fat silver bit attached to it. Not seen that before. Maybe I'm going mad
@@chrishoulihan427 There isn't a long fat silver bit? Unless you mean the half inch torx sockets?
That's a great job. Arnt you the guy who helps bmw dr dean out?
Yes mate
Did you guys have a we bit of a lover's tiff. I thought you were so close but now hes deleted you!!!!
Yeah not really sure what the problem is mate
Hi George, have got the manifold loose, however it still seems to be stuck somewhere and I am pretty sure it’s a pipe between cylinders 3 and 4???
At 10:40 mine is stuck like this, and at 11:06 was wondering if it’s the pipe
It's the bolts mate. You need to hold all 5 up at the same time then give it a good firm pull
I am having the same issue. All bolts are loose and free and the Manifold will still not come off. Seems like there is something keeping it from coming up. It wiggles quite a lot but I am unable to get it off
@@miffedlyric sorry it’s a day later, have you sorted it? I did my timing chains about a week ago and it came off better than the first time I took it off
hi George i need disconect batery to do this? thanks
I'm looking for an answer to that aswell
how many Kilometer you have?
200.000km
@@GeorgeAusters and how old is the car? its a good indication of the condition of my car... grüsse aus deutschland ;-)
Removed mine today and there was zero carbon in the manifold and intake ports, car has +220k km
should have taken out the engine and do all the work at once, as the engine will be out it would be so much easier to delete the flaps as well
I will be removing the engine soon! Will not be removing swirl flaps though👍🏻
Anyone based in nottingham that is interested to share experience?
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Lovley crud from the egr
Absolutely!
@@GeorgeAusters i am going to do this job blank egr and remove inlet manifold take out swirl flaps and clean should rum much better. If you use dipitane with ur fuel it should clean everything else 200 mil or so in every tank
I've never tried Dipitane mate. I have some redex though!
No need to remove swirl flaps on this engine mate.. You'll lose low down torque and MPG
@@GeorgeAusters ok good call ye diptane works with fuel so they say redex just cleans around its great stuff wont harm parts
even worst job on 520d n47