Jo blurting out the “I’m so lonely” at the end of her speech shows just how tight of a grip she’s had on her feelings and hasn’t really had anyone to talk to about how she really feels so it all just comes out in this moment. Just devastating. And Saoirse plays it so beautifully.
Some people have reached to the point in their life where they can't even express what they feel. They don't even have the idea of what there feeling except that there's this emptiness and numbness to overcome which they think they'll have to be reborn. And that's an everyday reality to them not just in a movie 😖😖
Not in the same situation but this is how I’ve felt and feel sometimes. I grew up way to fast when I was young, a middle child taking care of her younger and older siblings and her mother. Not really having the time to process my feelings when I was younger and should have been able to, now as an adult, it’s so hard and defeating. There are times where I want to express myself or cry but I also hear myself saying “for what” as if I need a valid reason.
@virusmaker506 -- "but I also hear myself saying “for what” as if I need a valid reason." . Sounds familiar. It's very common for people who weren't allowed to have emotional needs, let alone wants, to feel as adults like they don't deserve to express emotions or have to earn the right to be upset about personal boundary violations. Our needs were always a treated like a selfish burdensome inconvenience on the adults. Who, btw, were in fact the real selfish ones; not only did they not meet the needs even though it's normal and right for kids to be dependent on their caretakers (and not as if we kids even asked to be born!) but further, often making use of kids as emotional crutches. As if we were disposable emotional-support pets, one-time use, just add water, no (emotional) feeding in turn required, bin when done. . Anything told to you about your worth or what's healthy normal behaviour by such a person is automatically suspect, and likely should be disregarded. Because their true goal, whether they can admit it or even be aware of it or not, was never to tell you unbiased truth but to shift your perspective until it suited their wants, needs and/or whims. . It doesn't even have to have been maliciously done, either. Unhealthy people in survival mode unfortunately will often emotionally canabalize their family members. No one of whom is usually more vulnerable and defenceless than their own children.
"For this Jo, loneliness is not the lack of romantic partner. Loneliness is the cold tones of an empty attic haunted by the memory of one filled with golden light and laughter of best friends and sisters"
YES. Jo never really wants romance...she wants her sisters and childhood back, and yet she's grown up and is now expected to find a partner and she just doesn't want one. Gerwig's Jo will always be my favorite. SO many women AND men feel this way.
I think for Jo, admitting to her own loneliness was the hardest thing she ever did. Harder than turning down Laurie, harder than losing her manuscript, harder than leaving her family to pursue her career, harder than all of it.
As hard as it is to identify with Jo and draw out those very deep emotions, it makes me feel really human to do so. So much better than being so lonely that I feel nothing. This powerful scene taught me that even sadness can be healthy.
"I'm so lonely" A lot of people misinterpret this scene, saying that she wanted a romantic partner too. But she's saying she misses the days when she would spend the days playing and dreaming with her sisters. She turns around and realises that her childhood is long gone, all her sisters have grown up and married and moved on, and she's left behind all by herself.
I agree, though I think there's a tiny part of her that wants a romantic partner too. This doesn't invalidate her decisions and beliefs, because she continues to sacrifice that desire in order to accomplish her dreams. But at the end of the day she's still a human being, vulnerable and needing of love and companionship, and it's lonely moments like this one when that lack feels more painful and raw.
Exactly! And also the fact that she’s grieving. That plays a huge factor in this. It’s the realizing that all the beautiful times full of love, laughter and joy are just memories (in the past) that are associated with the ones you love that are no longer near or no longer alive. You begin to reevaluate what’s truly been important in your life and what/who has given it meaning. She wishes how badly she could go back in time, that’s why she wants Laurie around not because she is in love with him but because he’s a part of the past, apart of all the good times yes she wants to be loved be she also wants to give love - the love and care she feels she can no longer give to Beth. ❤💔
I feel like that's too much of a reach. She does want love and this feeling doesn't take away from anything she said about women being more complex than that. It's just that love isn't something advantageous for women in a patriarchal world, then and on some levels even today, and that sucks because of course we still want it, but the price, sometimes, and especially then, is too high. Being a woman was a complete trap. Conforming and getting married was most likely to put her under even more pressure to comply, and it's actually truly legally binding, she does become property. It's not like she could just love a man, get married and still be easily happy and free. She probably wished she could love and be free at the same time, but since she can't she chose freedom, at least the little bit she can have. And I actually like that she admits she cares more to be loved, because that's really exactly what she's supposed to feel. Women are expected to and they do all the loving and caring, but it's rarely that they are loved.
Jo is lonely because she doesn't have kids. The question still remains: who cares for the kids? Women give up their dreams and ambitions for their kids. Jo didn't want to give that up to be happy. That's why she was torn and unhappy, because everyone else moved on and grew up but her. and her ambitions were not making her happy.
I'm in my 20s too and I am truly happy single...every romantic relationship I've been in, I've been miserable. But like Jo, I feel huge pressure to enter romantic relationships so I won't be "lonely" because often those relationships are painted as the end all be all....I'm just happy we live in 2020 and women choosing to be single is more acceptable. Because, just like for Jo, romance isn't for everyone! Some ppl prefer friendships.
Me too! I'm in my mid twenties and have been single for my whole life by my own choice and I'm genuinely happy about it. But what Jo said really hits me. We don't want a relationship but sometimes we just feel soo lonely, it's confusing really
28 also and just split up with my eight year old sons father we were together from high school and honestly this does hit home and u it’s like u haven’t realised ur childhood has now gone and ur alone. Sounds really depressing put like that but it has good and bad days! Sorry for the long ramble just I know people can relate to loneliness and what it does to someone 🤗
I don't get why people insist about the Laurie/Jo couple when in this scene she clearly establishes that she doesn't/can't love him that way. She just feels so lonely in this point.
I feel like Jo's pressure to get with Laurie reflects the pressure a lot of women feel to get into romantic relationships because those relationships are prized over a lot of others. And it's really sad because, like Jo, some women (and men) are happier single, but then they're isolated and feel lonely, so they resort to wondering if perhaps they should just force themselves to enter romantic relationships so they can not be as lonely. In Alcott/Jo's time, I imagine this pressure was tenfold worse than today.
I feel like people ship Jo and Laurie because we're so used to the protagonist getting the "happy ever after" that we find a story incomplete without it. Jane Eyre ends up with Mr. Rochester, Elizabeth Bennett with Mr. Darcy, it's only fitting that Jo gets her happy ending with Laurie right? But Jo and Laurie would be much happier separately than together. And I think that's not satisfying to many readers because so many of them resonate with Jo: her fierce independence, her boyish nature, her refusal to conform to society's rules. But even now, we're used to thinking a nice romance that ends in marriage is the best ending for a character. We've read about Jo and the lovable boy-next-door Laurie and it's quite understandable for the readers for wanting two characters they love end up together. However, Alcott is quite right in having Jo reject Laurie. Jo is much happier by herself and would be miserable having to change herself for someone else. Sometimes two people who understand each other so perfectly are better off as friends.
@@jennyk5753 Exactly! I love that Jo subverts the norm of women ending with romance because not all women want that. I group her in with Elsa, Merida, Arya Stark, and Sansa Stark, among very few others, honestly (bc you rarely see women single at the ends of their stories, hence why these women are so revoluntionary)...they all ended up single and happy and it was their best endings, and I love that Gerwig adds Jo to that list with an ending much more true to her character.
Unhappily today women (me incluiding) suffer prejudice because they do want marry and have children. My own family don't respect that, because I feel comfort in traditional lifestyle and I want to marry and have a family.
@Car Go You're mostly right, but in reality, Alcott wanted Jo to remain single. She was even quoted writing "Girls write to ask who the little women marry, as if that was the only end and aim of a woman’s life. I won’t marry Jo to Laurie to please any one.” So, Alcott really did NOT want Jo to marry Laurie. She didn't want Jo to marry anyone, because Jo was Alcott. But so often, women, esp in that time period, were thought to only be worth something if they married. Alcott couldnt defy those norms and still get published, so she married Jo to the professor to scorn her readers.
I feel this scene so deeply because like Jo, I believe in freedom, and in feminism and that women shouldn’t and don’t aim only for love, but, God, is that a lonely path to take. And admitting that (putting all your beliefs aside) you still want your share of what society tells you should want as woman is tough. And you can see her struggling to even let the words out. Like she is disappointed at herself for the fact that deep down she also wants what everyone else does, to love and specially, be loved.
THANK YOU! You put in words what I always thought and I relate to this scene just as deeply as you do, that somehow the traditional wants and needs are always there, I guess this is just basic human nature and want.
Seeking sanctuary in God is not is not the solution. I have both experienced in myself and witnessed in others what it does. It creates a deceptive sense of belonging, a warmth that one gets when one is in company of a person one truly reveres. One must keep one's beliefs aside and face the truth that god does not exist. If there is something worth seeking sanctuary in, it is one's own self.
Women, they have minds and they have souls as well as just hearts. And they've got ambition and they've got talent as well as just beauty, and I'm so sick of people saying that love is just all a woman is fit for. I'm so sick of it! But... I am so lonely.
Well, when I saw the movie coming out I really felt we didn't need another little women adaptation. As it proves this was the only adaptation we needed. The book done right. Not romanticizing the past but portraying these women as real people with real and deep emotions.
Everything with the Greta touch has been golden so far, and that includes the movies she's acted in. I'm looking at her career with so much expectation.
Not these women just Jo and Meg done right. She tried to show Amy as a victim whereas she was selfish and vile. She didn't even come when Beth passed away and you want her to be shown as women with real feelings and emotions? Well selfishness and vileness is also an emotion a woman can have
@@teamtheguywhoalmosthitbela6683 of course, because women are human beings and they have many flaws. Jo is too hot tempered, Meg is superficial and Amy, in your terms, is selfish. But that’s what makes them relatable, they have flaws like a normal person. Besides, Amy didn’t know too much about Beth because they didn’t want to make her sad during her stay in Paris, not because she wasn’t worried about her sister.
@Tuan Vu well, thats quite a stretch there, I wouldn't really say that she did.. I mean its McAvoy and Knightley and even B. Cumberbatch - they were phenomenal. She was pretty good for her age but her acting wasn't really mind-blowing let alone "out of water blowing", haha.
This is the first time a film maker has dove deep into the complicated psychological and emotional hamster wheel of Jo March. Jo is a Metathesiophobic - a fear of change. She finds no comfort in the future. She would prefer they all stay together, never get old, and play in the attic for always. But change is forever linked to the wheel of time. You can't stop it. Suddenly, all of this change starts happening rapidly in her life, as it does for all people when their childhood is at an end. Meg gets married. A dear friend proposes they marry (Laurie, what's the matter with you?!?!) Another sister is well on her way to marrying. (Amy) Then a beloved sister succumbs to illness. These are things that can't be undone and it's all happening too fast. This scene is a moment that is more than Jo grieving for Beth. This is Jo March grieving the loss of her innocence and childhood. As everyone else is going along with their individual lives, Jo has either consciously or subconsciously chosen to never emotionally grow up. Beth's death is what shook the foundation of her security, which as it turns out, was an insecurity. It's sort of a Jungian thing. We all have 2 stages of life. That first stage is all about accumulation. We are building a container and trying to fill it with stuff. Education, experiences, relationships, career, property, house, cars, children, and etc.. We're on this goal centered path of obtaining all of this and a many of us can lose sight of the really important stuff. At some point we reach the stage where we try to figure out what all that accumulation means/meant. Most have to be initiated over to that second stage by one who has already crossed over, but life can force a premature crossing. Usually a traumatic event can cause it. Perhaps a death of a loved one or a divorce. Trauma has a way of forcing you to refocus on the important things of which you lost sight. A lot of people who don't cross over early will naturally find it at middle-age when panic can set in at the notion there are fewer years ahead than there are behind. This is when some people go in to crisis mode and try to accumulate all they ever wanted because now, life doesn't seem so endless. This is often referred to as a "mid-life crisis". But back on topic: This scene is the painful crossing over of Jo March and she's fortunate to have a mother to guide her. We have to take courage to see life through to the end. Invariably, there will be more setback, loss, and hurt than accomplishment, gain, and joy. To truly live, you have to open yourself up to vulnerability...….and you will love...….and you will be hurt. If one is fortunate to live into old age, a great many you loved will pass before you, but if you did it right - the joy their memories bring will help to out-weigh all the hurt brought by the loss. Sorry.....i seemed to have rambled. "Up in the garret, where Jo's unquiet wanderings ended; stood four little wooden chests in a row, each marked with its owners name, and each filled with relics of the childhood and girlhood ended now for all."
You wrote my thoughts... You poured your heart out and I love it. PS: I understood Jo on a whole different level and couldn't stand the hate she was getting for supposedly being mean to Amy... Because in more than one way I myself am Jo
Her acting is so impeccable. It's true and heartfelt and you cant help but hold your breath as she struggles to find her words before saying that's she's lonely.
I love this scene. Jo is such a complex character in a world where the "end all" for women is "romantic love." But she just wants friends and family, and feels it being taken from her. As a woman who is a lot like Jo - uninterested in romance - it's hard even in our modern day to not feel lonely sometimes. I don't want romance because it goes against what would make me happy, but we live in a world where romance is prized over friendships and sometimes even familial bonds, leaving those who don't want romance feeling isolated. I LOVE that Greta Gerwig ended Jo's story more mysteriously - perhaps hinting that she truly did never marry - reflecting Alcott's own life. It's so refreshing and representation that is much needed.
In my case I'm feeling so lonely because almost no one respects me because I want to marry, have a family and a traditional lifestyle (to marry virgin with religion). In case, the two sides suffer, we will always suffer because our choices.
@@carolinedoney6303 It seems like nobody can ever win. If you want to take a more traditional route, people will criticize you. if you want to not marry at all, people will also criticize you. So at the end of the day, you need to just do what you want, because people will always have something to say. I've learned the hard way that I can't forsake my own happiness to appease some people's expectations. I need to be happy my own way.
I agree with almost everything you said, but I don't think Jo is uninterested in romance. She just hasn't found a match yet and also thinks it's not the end all, be all for women. But if she found true romance with someone she wouldn't say no.
@@Blamayer Yeah maybe, but there's nothing within her character (esp in this movie) to prove that that is the case. The ending scene with Prof Bauer was more of a reflection of how publishers push romance onto women characters, and how she had to effectively "rewrite" her life to get there. But there's nothing in this version of Jo's character that leads me to believe she would be interested in romance. That's what makes this version a refreshing character. To each their own interpretation, I guess.
"But do you love him?" "I care more to be loved" There is your answer. She was lonely, her closest sister died, her career was going nowhere, she was feeling like a failure. That is not a proper state of mind to marry someone. People like to ignore all that just beacuse they looked cute together. But love is more than just that
“I’m so sick of people saying that love is just all a woman is fit for! I’m so sick of it. But I’m s- I’m so lonely.” This has been my mindset for such a long time. I love this movie so much and I haven’t even seen it yet
what nonsense. the entire concept of feelings and love is catered to the needs and desires of women. they literally control romance and dating. men are just along for the ride. you cannot blame society for your warped mindset.
that scene really hits hard. the point of loneliness gets to where you dont care about who youre being loved by. you just crave the feeling, not even realizing that you have to return it. youre blinded by your own feelings, that you completely disregard someone elses. and i get what she was saying. its hard to love. its easier to take than to give.
EXACTLY! I saw some people lamenting that they weren't together in the end, when in this scene, her mom kinda put the nail in the coffin - that deep down, Jo never loved Laurie.
Because love is way more a choice than an emotion or a just a feeling. That’s why a lot of people ship them. I’m glad that he married Amy though. This movie got robbed of Best Picture.
@@AyoTech83 i think Jo did love Laurie, but just not as a husband or crush. Like Laurie said the he's always loved Jo, but his love for Amy was a different kind of love. Jo loves Laurie as a close friend and partner.
Ugh...when she said "I'm so lonely" I felt that in my bones...and it brought me back to all the times I sat crying in my room because the feeling of loneliness was just so damn crushing...almost like you cant breathe.
Even as a guy this scene hits you. The expectations of society vs what you want. The feeling lonely is heartbreaking. I love this scene. So true. I felt that, I am right there. In loneliness.
I care more to be loved... I want to be loved... But I’m so lonely... I feel this way... I feel so lonely and unloved I can totally relate to Joe here... 😢
Oftentimes, in order to truly overcome loneliness, we first have to learn to love ourselves. When we learn to forgive ourselves, we begin to feel less lonely and more caring and selfless for others. We wish to see others happiness first before our own, only to realize that the very desire and act of making someone else happy makes you happy too. I know it. I have experienced it, and you will be infinitely happier for it.
I am the 3rd of 4 daughters. As of this month, I'm the only one left that hasn't married. I am a writer. And have been so sure of a solitary life until now -- preferring that to the risk of heartbreak. This isn't just good acting. These are honest words. And they belong to the lonely people who know the value of love without its guarantee. I hope I'm not too afraid to love. Or too proud to be loved. I hope that this loneliness merely precedes good company.
When she said I'm So Lonely, I felt that. It's a very particular kind of pain, to realize that who you are and what people expect out of a relationship just don't FIT, and that you're not willing to sacrifice who you are but you still long for that closeness.
The biggest factor here is that Jo is grieving. That is why she feels so lonely, it’s the realizing that all the beautiful times full of love, laughter and joy are just memories (in the past) that are associated with the ones you love that are no longer near or no longer alive. You begin to reevaluate what’s truly been important in your life and what/who has given it meaning. She wishes how badly she could go back in time, that’s why she wants Laurie around not because she is in love with him but because he’s a part of the past, apart of all the good times. Yes she wants to be loved be she also wants to give love - the love and care she feels she can no longer give to Beth. ❤💔
jo speaking of her loneliness is exactly what i’ve experienced most of my life. i’m the kind of girl that’s never been in love and that pushes anyone how may love me away. yet i feel so lonely. and it’s as though i’ve done it to myself. phew needed to vent
Every girl's dilemma when she realizes the cruel truth is she will always have to protect her independence without risking the possibility of ever finding love. Never let go of both, you can have your own dreams and desires along with the love of someone, when you put those things together you can go far, just don't let go of either.
It's also so difficult finding a partner that fits. Either you pretend to be someone else and feel like you're loved at the expense of betraying yourself or be your true self and feel lonely but being honest. Love is a game with few real winners.
this part of the film hits the hardest.fear of growing up.fear that everything will change and nothing will ever be the same again. you don't know how that life will turn around.on the one hand,you want to open all the horizons of this world, but on the other hand, you want to always remain such a naughty girl of your parents and live this life carefree.and growing up, when all fly away to their "nests", you think that you are not needed by anyone , that you are just an extra burden for your long-grown relatives.and according to social norms, the girl's happiness is only in love.and you unconsciously want to be just loved.because subconsciously you think that you are already deprived of love and that you are very lonely.and it hurts...
this scene made me burst into tears in the theater because of how much her performance got to me and resonated with me, because its so true and I relate to it so much.
Greta Gerwig's adaptation is the only interpretation of Little Women I will ever need. I will make sure my future daughters see this film to help them understand the importance of a woman's strength and power, but also the kindness and love that we are capable of wielding. Women are so powerful, we should never be underestimated !!
I remember seeing this scene in the cinema and being so moved that I started crying openly in the middle of the movie theatre. Saorise’s performance, Jo’s sadness and frustration but also, her saying things that me and so many people feel or have felt in their lives. Their desire for love but not settling for less, wanting relationships on their own terms but feeling so lonely, wanting a career they love but it’s not working out (or in Jo’s case, society bans it for women). Such a beautiful performance from Saorise and gorgeous writing from Greta x
I love how the mother just let her let it all out slowly, she just calmly sat there watching the things slowly flow out of Jo... I havent seen the whole movie yet but I've seen scenes.
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Little Women is the next Pride and Prejudice (2006). In the future, We're gonna see it many times and always enjoy it as if it was the first time!
Yeah.. i love pride and prejudice a lot.. and now little women .. i watched both of this movies in the quarantine time. I can't choose which is best because people who watched it will know... I love love it.. both of the films are gonna be my all time favourite and going to re-watch these for the rest of my life.. and i never met someone who has same thoughts like me and who appreciates these types of movies and book..
True I really wish they make more movies like these. Movies like these are so much more than just movies, they're an experience! The writers and creators don't treat the audience like they're dumb, every second, every shot has meaning and intention, it's a work of art.
I like how this film explores the complexity of Jo's character, in that, she may present herself as a tomboy and she may put up this front that she doesn't care about girly things but in a later scene, after she sells her hair, she cries on the stairs about how her hair looks showing that she isn't above her girly side. Then in this scene after turning down Laurie and saying that she cares about her independence too much to give it up, she then breaks down in this scene confessing her loneliness showing that she is not above wanting to be in a relationship and wanting to be loved by someone.
As a 34 year old workaholic woman, I define myself so much in my work and my accomplishments. I keep wanting to do more with my life and stopping is not an option. I've had my heart broken so much I don't think I even have a heart anymore. But there are brief ... moments in time I feel loneliness. Saoirse portrayed this moment really well, I cried because I related so much to it.
Never have I related to a character more than in this moment. After losing my grandparent and not getting the love or support I needed while grieving from family I tried throwing myself into my work. I believed that there’s was more to life than wallowing about, but oh how I craved some support or understanding. When someone gave me just a snippet of compassion I fell hard, not in love, but the feeling of being loved. Oh how I just wanted to feel loved, to feel some sense of happiness. Jo really embodied how so many feel and I think the actress did a phenomenal job. Bravo!
“i just, i just feel- i just feel like, woman the- they have minds and they have souls as well as just hearts, and they’ve ambition, and they’ve got talent, as well as just beauty and i’m so sick of people saying tha-that love is all a women is fit for, i’m so sick! but i’m s-, i’m so lonely”
I think this is one of the most emotional monologue in cinematic history It kills me to think how much she's waited to blurt out about her being lonely and wanting to be cared for. "But do you love him?"- "I care more to be loved" aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
23 and I just left my first boyfriend 2 days ago after 1 month of relationship, he was great and caring but I didn't feel like I belonged, I still had this feeling and need to be completely free and independent of everyone and everything even of him. Since then I haven't stopped thinking about this passage, it already resonated strongly in me before and now even more... I hope to have more of Jo's character in 2024
I was one of the people upset that Laurie and Jo didn't end up together, but rewatching this I realize she was at a low point when she reconsidered his proposal. Like she was out of options and latched onto the idea of marrying him to *feel better* . It would be different if she was living her best life in New York and happy plagued with thoughts of Laurie but she didn't even give him thought until now.
I love my mom so much, I do. She’s been amazing. But she’s also a single parent so she had to be quite strict. Sometimes I wish I had a soft mom who could be my confident for stuff related to relationships. If I were to have this speech with her I’d die of mortification.
I really connected with Jo in this film, and it makes me want to read the book just to spend more time with someone like me. I love my writing and want to spend the rest of my life doing it, and I love the idea of having friends to talk to about all of the amazing things I'm trying to push my art to do. However, even at a university studying my craft, I have no one around me that loves writing or the arts as much as I do and I feel so lonely. Do people ever stop feeling like this?
She's an amazing actress. Every line to the build up of a climax - e.g. when she brings up Laurie, her voice sounds vulnerable and a bit defensive - that maybe she turned him down too quick, and maybe he'll ask her again, etc. It's SO GOOD.
"If I was a girl in a book this would all be so easy. Just give up the world happily. I've always been quite content with my family, I don't understand it. Perhaps I was too quick in turning him down, Laurie. If he asked me again I think I would say yes. Do you think he'll ask me again? I care more to be loved, I want to be loved. I just feel like women, they have minds and they have souls as well as just hearts. And they've got ambition and talent as well as just beauty, and I'm so sick of people saying love is all a woman is fit for. I'm so sick of it, but I'm so lonely."
The “I’m so lonely” part indicates her acceptance that maybe woman are meant to be with someone as she indicated in the beginning of the scene. She was willing to allow herself to be taken by someone for the simple fact of someone wanting/loving her regardless of how she felt towards the other individual. Time flys-this she noticed well. She was admitting to settling down if it meant she could find somebody who loved her and it seemed her last memory of someone who actually expressed such gratitude was her friend Laurie. As the quote goes, “Desperate times, calls for desperate measures”.
At some point, I really want to write an analysis of Little Women, specifically this version, involving a reading of Jo March as asexual and/or aromantic. Because this scene really just fits that reading, because Jo misses her childhood and the lightheartedness of it, and now she is expected to simply move on. She's slowly losing all her friends and family to romantic relationships and she doesn't want one, but it's expected and she doesn't see that there's a way out. And it's hard to watch people lose themselves in romance and then believe that it somehow outranks all other forms of love and then leaving her behind. The proposal scene from Laurie she doesn't reciprocate and she wants to remain friends, but she knows it's coming before he even says it and it's just the dread and anxiety of having to hear him finally say it.. And she's just lost a sister to something much more serious than romance. And Jo as a character does not handle change in great scale well, and it's just herself and society and expectations asking so much of her. I don't really think I have the words to make it eloquent or coherent enough to really get at what I want to say but goodness it's such an idea (thank you to whoever made a post about it and I've been thinking about it ever since).
I fully agree with this. On my first viewing I completely read Jo as aroace, and it's some of the best rep I've seen. This scene in particular shows just how tricky it is, not loving in a traditional sense - because Jo loves people, just not romantically - but still wanting to be loved.
Male here. This scene really struck a cord with me because of the parallels in my life. For much of my 20s I lost touch with a lot friends to concentrate on my career in the arts. I actively looked down on the culture of people my age. I researched philosophy and religions for meaning as my hobbies. However now Im 30 and I realize I have no friends. I threw away most relationship opportunities. And although I had these lofty ambitions and perspective while chasing my career, I feel like Jo. She too is wrapped in her own reality where she concentrates only on her art and as a defense mechanism shuns anything that isn't too that gain. But more importantly she shuns anyone who stands in that path. I feel like for Jo and I, there is this need to be great, to be loved because we cant cultivate that love for ourselves from within. People need other people in their life, its biological. The romantic aspect also might dig deep into intimacy traumas Jo was born with. I grew up in a broken home and Jo did as well (her father was never there). My only memory of my parents marriage was of loud shouting and police visits. I never understood true romance because i never saw it. Everytime I had a relationship it just felt like I needed to ruin it. It manifested itself at the time as a distraction but now I realize it stems from a deep seated trauma from childhood that was never repaired. I feel like this film in parts looks down on the classic vision of love and romance and a womens place in it. I understand that and dont know enough to judge. But these archetypes dont necessarily stem from just from human intervention and manifestation. I feel like there is a biological underpinning that brings us into relationships, romantic or casually. So even if not romance its good to have at least positive people your own age pulling you up. No matter how beautiful or lofty our ambitions are, we need people. Otherwise we are just lonely. If you are lonely surround yourself with positive people first. Your heart will follow.
The dialogue is so smart that it adds an additional layer not only to the scene but to Jo's character too. She feels like she has a role to play in society and define all the people's close-minded opinions. But at the same time she is more tired than ever playing this part and for the first time she reveals weakness, pain and most of all loneliness. Brilliant writing
Honestly as an aroace incapable of feeling the typical feelings for other people this hits home so hard. I want to be loved and to love people even if I don't know how to. It can be so lonely when everyone else cherishes and idolises something you just can't force yourself to feel.
i hate when people crop out the "im so lonely" bit out of this scene whenever they post it because i feel it's the most important part. even though jo is strong and independent, she too, craves for love and feels lonely and wanting to be loved doesn't make her weak or less independent
It must be very lonely when society won't spare you a passing glance if you don't fit the role it assigns you. It's sad that she would settle for marrying someone she truly doesn't love just so she will have someone around. She doesn't even really want romance. She really just wants loving relationships again.
This scene punches me in the gut. I've been alone and lonely my entire life. As a child, it seems like a temporary exclusion we cannot grasp, but then our conscience begins to dwell on its permanence. There's a desperation that starts to set in and a bleakness that outside of any other achievement one can attain in life, loving and being loved is not pledged to us.
This scene hits me so hard because I relate to Jo so much - we’re both writers and middle children. I keep crying just thinking about what Jo’s been through and because of Saorsie’s performance.
Y'all don't get it. Jo wants her family, she wants familial, communal love in a world with nuclear families and individualism. It's why the ending of her book is everyone living together, not far away from one another. It's not about "growing up" it's about knowing that as a woman, you are expected to leave your family behind to make another. Jo is so desperate that she's considering going for the very thing that isolated her sisters from her in the first place.
this scene dude. when i first watched it in theaters i started bawling, even though i didn’t mean to. it hits so close to home, and it hurts so much. i’ve always hated the idea of depending on someone else, but i still am just so lonely. it’s an awful feeling.
This is one of my favorite film scenes. The pain in her voice as she says she's lonely. For her, she wants her freedom to create and to love but in this time she had to choose one or the other.
I can relate a lot to Jo. Her disinterest in love and prioritizing family and friends as number one. She lives her life the same way I live mine. I don’t want to label her but if I were to, I would classify her as aromantic. I’ve seen a lot of comments saying she isn’t ready to lose her innocence but I don’t view it that way. Not everyone wants to live their life following the traditional path. Not even in a rebellious way, but just naturally. I have never once had a crush on a person in real life. Or any interest in romance or imagined myself in a relationship for fun. It’s liberating to live life the way you want but it’s lonely watching your friends move on to prioritize their partner over their friendships (which is just the way of life for some) but it’s still lonely. It seems being aromantic is exciting in your youth but becomes more lonely as you get older
Look you can sugar coat it all you want, but at the end of the day, we are social creatures, we desire love and companionship, and that’s exactly what’s being displayed here, a cry for help.
There is nothing that has described me better than this scene. I want to do so much by myself, for myself - not bound by anyone or anything, not defined by a man but.. I'm so lonely.
I would say that this is one of the best acting ever, she is so relatable and her tone of voice is so beautiful, the way she talks, she expresses, she is so wholesome
this scene describes my thoughts in a way I did not expect. I relate to this exact scene perfectly and live this constant longing to be loved due to the loneliness I feel daily. I relate to jo in a way I didnt expect at all.
This scene hits me really hard. I always said that I’m happy being alone, I don’t need marriage, but then at the end of the day.. i’m very lonely. The thought of having someone to love and being loved kinda hurts..
The comment section is so beautiful and deep. I love it. Also, in my opinion, Jo was lonely but in the sense that the beautiful and warm past kept pinching her. She was constantly reminded of losing both Beth and Laurie. Jo was lonely because she lost both Beth, half of herself and Laurie, the only one friend she had. I always thought that Jo had it the worst. The poor girl did all in her power and became so selfless and she got NOTHING. Amy, I truly believe, deserved what she got but it made me heartbroken to see Jo trying to be best version of herself and still not getting what she deserved while Amy got all the fruits of her hardwork. I relate to her and I can just tell how it feels to see everyone tasting the fruits of the efforts while your efforts go in vain just as if a glass of water mixed to river- making no difference.
I’ve always resignated with Jo, i’ve always wanted to write never have much intention on marrying or having children, always wanted to make a name for myself. I have the same bad temper as she had, now I find myself wanting to date for the same reason she had said, I want to be loved but I dont want to lose my chance at life. when she delivered this speech I felt it with every fiber of my being.
This hits so close to home. In this era even more than before. Women can do so much, we drive our own destiny, our own careers, and to admit that we still want to be 'fit for love' too is sometimes hard to do.
Jo blurting out the “I’m so lonely” at the end of her speech shows just how tight of a grip she’s had on her feelings and hasn’t really had anyone to talk to about how she really feels so it all just comes out in this moment. Just devastating. And Saoirse plays it so beautifully.
Beautifully empathized!
Some people have reached to the point in their life where they can't even express what they feel. They don't even have the idea of what there feeling except that there's this emptiness and numbness to overcome which they think they'll have to be reborn. And that's an everyday reality to them not just in a movie 😖😖
Not in the same situation but this is how I’ve felt and feel sometimes. I grew up way to fast when I was young, a middle child taking care of her younger and older siblings and her mother. Not really having the time to process my feelings when I was younger and should have been able to, now as an adult, it’s so hard and defeating. There are times where I want to express myself or cry but I also hear myself saying “for what” as if I need a valid reason.
Jo blurting out the “im so lonely”at the end of her speech shows just how tight of a grip she’s had her feelings bunched up.
@virusmaker506 -- "but I also hear myself saying “for what” as if I need a valid reason."
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Sounds familiar. It's very common for people who weren't allowed to have emotional needs, let alone wants, to feel as adults like they don't deserve to express emotions or have to earn the right to be upset about personal boundary violations. Our needs were always a treated like a selfish burdensome inconvenience on the adults. Who, btw, were in fact the real selfish ones; not only did they not meet the needs even though it's normal and right for kids to be dependent on their caretakers (and not as if we kids even asked to be born!) but further, often making use of kids as emotional crutches. As if we were disposable emotional-support pets, one-time use, just add water, no (emotional) feeding in turn required, bin when done.
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Anything told to you about your worth or what's healthy normal behaviour by such a person is automatically suspect, and likely should be disregarded. Because their true goal, whether they can admit it or even be aware of it or not, was never to tell you unbiased truth but to shift your perspective until it suited their wants, needs and/or whims.
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It doesn't even have to have been maliciously done, either. Unhealthy people in survival mode unfortunately will often emotionally canabalize their family members. No one of whom is usually more vulnerable and defenceless than their own children.
"For this Jo, loneliness is not the lack of romantic partner. Loneliness is the cold tones of an empty attic haunted by the memory of one filled with golden light and laughter of best friends and sisters"
Did Greta Gerwig say that?
Where is this quote from??
Damn that’s deep
@@alyssumflowers I heard it too in a video analyzing Little Women. I'd have to check it out and post it here later.
YES. Jo never really wants romance...she wants her sisters and childhood back, and yet she's grown up and is now expected to find a partner and she just doesn't want one. Gerwig's Jo will always be my favorite. SO many women AND men feel this way.
I think for Jo, admitting to her own loneliness was the hardest thing she ever did. Harder than turning down Laurie, harder than losing her manuscript, harder than leaving her family to pursue her career, harder than all of it.
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they’re too lonely to comment.
that sounds like jo, too proud to admit her to herself how she truly feels
And I could deeply agree to that. But now I can really admit. I'm so lonely.
As hard as it is to identify with Jo and draw out those very deep emotions, it makes me feel really human to do so. So much better than being so lonely that I feel nothing. This powerful scene taught me that even sadness can be healthy.
"I'm so lonely"
A lot of people misinterpret this scene, saying that she wanted a romantic partner too. But she's saying she misses the days when she would spend the days playing and dreaming with her sisters. She turns around and realises that her childhood is long gone, all her sisters have grown up and married and moved on, and she's left behind all by herself.
I agree, though I think there's a tiny part of her that wants a romantic partner too. This doesn't invalidate her decisions and beliefs, because she continues to sacrifice that desire in order to accomplish her dreams. But at the end of the day she's still a human being, vulnerable and needing of love and companionship, and it's lonely moments like this one when that lack feels more painful and raw.
Exactly! And also the fact that she’s grieving. That plays a huge factor in this. It’s the realizing that all the beautiful times full of love, laughter and joy are just memories (in the past) that are associated with the ones you love that are no longer near or no longer alive. You begin to reevaluate what’s truly been important in your life and what/who has given it meaning. She wishes how badly she could go back in time, that’s why she wants Laurie around not because she is in love with him but because he’s a part of the past, apart of all the good times yes she wants to be loved be she also wants to give love - the love and care she feels she can no longer give to Beth. ❤💔
I feel like that's too much of a reach. She does want love and this feeling doesn't take away from anything she said about women being more complex than that. It's just that love isn't something advantageous for women in a patriarchal world, then and on some levels even today, and that sucks because of course we still want it, but the price, sometimes, and especially then, is too high. Being a woman was a complete trap. Conforming and getting married was most likely to put her under even more pressure to comply, and it's actually truly legally binding, she does become property. It's not like she could just love a man, get married and still be easily happy and free. She probably wished she could love and be free at the same time, but since she can't she chose freedom, at least the little bit she can have. And I actually like that she admits she cares more to be loved, because that's really exactly what she's supposed to feel. Women are expected to and they do all the loving and caring, but it's rarely that they are loved.
idk. she seems pretty aromantic to me @@fcv4616
Jo is lonely because she doesn't have kids. The question still remains: who cares for the kids? Women give up their dreams and ambitions for their kids. Jo didn't want to give that up to be happy. That's why she was torn and unhappy, because everyone else moved on and grew up but her. and her ambitions were not making her happy.
As someone who always says that I'm happy to be single at 28, this really hit home.
I'm in my 20s too and I am truly happy single...every romantic relationship I've been in, I've been miserable. But like Jo, I feel huge pressure to enter romantic relationships so I won't be "lonely" because often those relationships are painted as the end all be all....I'm just happy we live in 2020 and women choosing to be single is more acceptable. Because, just like for Jo, romance isn't for everyone! Some ppl prefer friendships.
Me too! I'm in my mid twenties and have been single for my whole life by my own choice and I'm genuinely happy about it. But what Jo said really hits me. We don't want a relationship but sometimes we just feel soo lonely, it's confusing really
Cope
28 also and just split up with my eight year old sons father we were together from high school and honestly this does hit home and u it’s like u haven’t realised ur childhood has now gone and ur alone. Sounds really depressing put like that but it has good and bad days! Sorry for the long ramble just I know people can relate to loneliness and what it does to someone 🤗
nothing has changed for women. 21 and single and not ashamed of it. but there is huge pressure on me from other ppl that i should date
"I'm so lonely."
Oof. Felt that.
Big oof
Same
I was like, "me, too" 😭
joel750 yes your just SO oppressed. 😭😭
@joel750 and men wine like babies
I don't get why people insist about the Laurie/Jo couple when in this scene she clearly establishes that she doesn't/can't love him that way. She just feels so lonely in this point.
I feel like Jo's pressure to get with Laurie reflects the pressure a lot of women feel to get into romantic relationships because those relationships are prized over a lot of others. And it's really sad because, like Jo, some women (and men) are happier single, but then they're isolated and feel lonely, so they resort to wondering if perhaps they should just force themselves to enter romantic relationships so they can not be as lonely. In Alcott/Jo's time, I imagine this pressure was tenfold worse than today.
I feel like people ship Jo and Laurie because we're so used to the protagonist getting the "happy ever after" that we find a story incomplete without it. Jane Eyre ends up with Mr. Rochester, Elizabeth Bennett with Mr. Darcy, it's only fitting that Jo gets her happy ending with Laurie right?
But Jo and Laurie would be much happier separately than together. And I think that's not satisfying to many readers because so many of them resonate with Jo: her fierce independence, her boyish nature, her refusal to conform to society's rules. But even now, we're used to thinking a nice romance that ends in marriage is the best ending for a character. We've read about Jo and the lovable boy-next-door Laurie and it's quite understandable for the readers for wanting two characters they love end up together. However, Alcott is quite right in having Jo reject Laurie. Jo is much happier by herself and would be miserable having to change herself for someone else. Sometimes two people who understand each other so perfectly are better off as friends.
@@jennyk5753 Exactly! I love that Jo subverts the norm of women ending with romance because not all women want that. I group her in with Elsa, Merida, Arya Stark, and Sansa Stark, among very few others, honestly (bc you rarely see women single at the ends of their stories, hence why these women are so revoluntionary)...they all ended up single and happy and it was their best endings, and I love that Gerwig adds Jo to that list with an ending much more true to her character.
Unhappily today women (me incluiding) suffer prejudice because they do want marry and have children. My own family don't respect that, because I feel comfort in traditional lifestyle and I want to marry and have a family.
@Car Go You're mostly right, but in reality, Alcott wanted Jo to remain single. She was even quoted writing "Girls write to ask who the little women marry, as if that was the only end and aim of a woman’s life. I won’t marry Jo to Laurie to please any one.”
So, Alcott really did NOT want Jo to marry Laurie. She didn't want Jo to marry anyone, because Jo was Alcott. But so often, women, esp in that time period, were thought to only be worth something if they married. Alcott couldnt defy those norms and still get published, so she married Jo to the professor to scorn her readers.
Her Oscar nomination was so well deserved! She's 25 with 4 nominations under her belt! I'm 24 and I still hand in my assignments late....
@Om Patel They're in different category. But I really did LOVE Florence Pugh in this. And Midsommar.
You’re an academic, that’s a whole different world :)!
Ameeeen 😭 it makes me feel so incompetent.
Om Patel
Define better.
Saoirse Ronan shines here.
But how do you pronounce her name though??
Every tv talkshow host ever..
I feel this scene so deeply because like Jo, I believe in freedom, and in feminism and that women shouldn’t and don’t aim only for love, but, God, is that a lonely path to take. And admitting that (putting all your beliefs aside) you still want your share of what society tells you should want as woman is tough. And you can see her struggling to even let the words out. Like she is disappointed at herself for the fact that deep down she also wants what everyone else does, to love and specially, be loved.
THANK YOU! You put in words what I always thought and I relate to this scene just as deeply as you do, that somehow the traditional wants and needs are always there, I guess this is just basic human nature and want.
i totally agree, is hard to be single sometimes
Seeking sanctuary in God is not is not the solution. I have both experienced in myself and witnessed in others what it does.
It creates a deceptive sense of belonging, a warmth that one gets when one is in company of a person one truly reveres. One must keep one's beliefs aside and face the truth that god does not exist.
If there is something worth seeking sanctuary in, it is one's own self.
@@voxtur__7 you must be fun at parties
@@anushka1257 if a place condemns contemplation, it is better to not fit in there.
Women, they have minds and they have souls as well as just hearts. And they've got ambition and they've got talent as well as just beauty, and I'm so sick of people saying that love is just all a woman is fit for. I'm so sick of it! But... I am so lonely.
It's the best part of the film.
Absolutely women they have heart they have minds,souls
Wow that was deep
Nah. What dat mouf du alalala
Absolutly my brain as a woman right now
I can't believe that I come back to this clip once in a while, just to hear someone else speak out my exact feelings...
Omg me the sameee
same 🫂
Wats the name of this series?
@@laltanpuiijongte2001 It's a movie, there are different versions based on the book by Louisa May Alcott
SAME
Well, when I saw the movie coming out I really felt we didn't need another little women adaptation. As it proves this was the only adaptation we needed. The book done right. Not romanticizing the past but portraying these women as real people with real and deep emotions.
Greta Gerwig has this amazing way with her characters, especially the female ones, and she deserves a lot more appreciation for her work
@@hugerhumm3439 I can’t wait for another film directed by her. The two she’s solo directed have been fantastic
Everything with the Greta touch has been golden so far, and that includes the movies she's acted in. I'm looking at her career with so much expectation.
Not these women just Jo and Meg done right. She tried to show Amy as a victim whereas she was selfish and vile. She didn't even come when Beth passed away and you want her to be shown as women with real feelings and emotions? Well selfishness and vileness is also an emotion a woman can have
@@teamtheguywhoalmosthitbela6683 of course, because women are human beings and they have many flaws. Jo is too hot tempered, Meg is superficial and Amy, in your terms, is selfish. But that’s what makes them relatable, they have flaws like a normal person. Besides, Amy didn’t know too much about Beth because they didn’t want to make her sad during her stay in Paris, not because she wasn’t worried about her sister.
So heart wrenching. Ever since “Atonement”, Saoirse Ronan has been nothing short of breathtaking.
Tuan Vu Yes! And the following year she was the only Oscar-nominated actor out of the cast. It says a lot😃
@Tuan Vu well, thats quite a stretch there, I wouldn't really say that she did.. I mean its McAvoy and Knightley and even B. Cumberbatch - they were phenomenal. She was pretty good for her age but her acting wasn't really mind-blowing let alone "out of water blowing", haha.
Definitely born to act.
I hated her character in atonement I was so mad at her, I still haven’t forgiven her.
@@Epic4Evr1990 that would mean that she acted really well. Also I never realised she was in atonement.
This is the first time a film maker has dove deep into the complicated psychological and emotional hamster wheel of Jo March. Jo is a Metathesiophobic - a fear of change. She finds no comfort in the future. She would prefer they all stay together, never get old, and play in the attic for always. But change is forever linked to the wheel of time. You can't stop it. Suddenly, all of this change starts happening rapidly in her life, as it does for all people when their childhood is at an end. Meg gets married. A dear friend proposes they marry (Laurie, what's the matter with you?!?!) Another sister is well on her way to marrying. (Amy) Then a beloved sister succumbs to illness. These are things that can't be undone and it's all happening too fast. This scene is a moment that is more than Jo grieving for Beth. This is Jo March grieving the loss of her innocence and childhood. As everyone else is going along with their individual lives, Jo has either consciously or subconsciously chosen to never emotionally grow up. Beth's death is what shook the foundation of her security, which as it turns out, was an insecurity. It's sort of a Jungian thing. We all have 2 stages of life. That first stage is all about accumulation. We are building a container and trying to fill it with stuff. Education, experiences, relationships, career, property, house, cars, children, and etc.. We're on this goal centered path of obtaining all of this and a many of us can lose sight of the really important stuff. At some point we reach the stage where we try to figure out what all that accumulation means/meant. Most have to be initiated over to that second stage by one who has already crossed over, but life can force a premature crossing. Usually a traumatic event can cause it. Perhaps a death of a loved one or a divorce. Trauma has a way of forcing you to refocus on the important things of which you lost sight. A lot of people who don't cross over early will naturally find it at middle-age when panic can set in at the notion there are fewer years ahead than there are behind. This is when some people go in to crisis mode and try to accumulate all they ever wanted because now, life doesn't seem so endless. This is often referred to as a "mid-life crisis". But back on topic: This scene is the painful crossing over of Jo March and she's fortunate to have a mother to guide her. We have to take courage to see life through to the end. Invariably, there will be more setback, loss, and hurt than accomplishment, gain, and joy. To truly live, you have to open yourself up to vulnerability...….and you will love...….and you will be hurt. If one is fortunate to live into old age, a great many you loved will pass before you, but if you did it right - the joy their memories bring will help to out-weigh all the hurt brought by the loss. Sorry.....i seemed to have rambled.
"Up in the garret, where Jo's unquiet wanderings ended; stood four little wooden chests in a row, each marked with its owners name, and each filled with relics of the childhood and girlhood ended now for all."
Insightful analysis!
No no ramble on! This was very interesting to me
You wrote my thoughts... You poured your heart out and I love it.
PS: I understood Jo on a whole different level and couldn't stand the hate she was getting for supposedly being mean to Amy... Because in more than one way I myself am Jo
So beautifully written!
This is brilliant and so beautifully written.
Her acting is so impeccable. It's true and heartfelt and you cant help but hold your breath as she struggles to find her words before saying that's she's lonely.
"I'm so lonely" at the end. That really gets me. I feel her pain and I totally relate. Saoirse is incredible.
I love this scene. Jo is such a complex character in a world where the "end all" for women is "romantic love." But she just wants friends and family, and feels it being taken from her. As a woman who is a lot like Jo - uninterested in romance - it's hard even in our modern day to not feel lonely sometimes. I don't want romance because it goes against what would make me happy, but we live in a world where romance is prized over friendships and sometimes even familial bonds, leaving those who don't want romance feeling isolated. I LOVE that Greta Gerwig ended Jo's story more mysteriously - perhaps hinting that she truly did never marry - reflecting Alcott's own life. It's so refreshing and representation that is much needed.
In my case I'm feeling so lonely because almost no one respects me because I want to marry, have a family and a traditional lifestyle (to marry virgin with religion).
In case, the two sides suffer, we will always suffer because our choices.
@@carolinedoney6303 It seems like nobody can ever win. If you want to take a more traditional route, people will criticize you. if you want to not marry at all, people will also criticize you. So at the end of the day, you need to just do what you want, because people will always have something to say. I've learned the hard way that I can't forsake my own happiness to appease some people's expectations. I need to be happy my own way.
Well said, Alana
I agree with almost everything you said, but I don't think Jo is uninterested in romance. She just hasn't found a match yet and also thinks it's not the end all, be all for women. But if she found true romance with someone she wouldn't say no.
@@Blamayer Yeah maybe, but there's nothing within her character (esp in this movie) to prove that that is the case. The ending scene with Prof Bauer was more of a reflection of how publishers push romance onto women characters, and how she had to effectively "rewrite" her life to get there. But there's nothing in this version of Jo's character that leads me to believe she would be interested in romance. That's what makes this version a refreshing character. To each their own interpretation, I guess.
"But do you love him?"
"I care more to be loved"
There is your answer. She was lonely, her closest sister died, her career was going nowhere, she was feeling like a failure. That is not a proper state of mind to marry someone. People like to ignore all that just beacuse they looked cute together. But love is more than just that
“I’m so sick of people saying that love is just all a woman is fit for! I’m so sick of it. But I’m s- I’m so lonely.” This has been my mindset for such a long time. I love this movie so much and I haven’t even seen it yet
Watch it. You can buy it on youtube. It was so much better than I expected.
what nonsense. the entire concept of feelings and love is catered to the needs and desires of women. they literally control romance and dating. men are just along for the ride. you cannot blame society for your warped mindset.
that scene really hits hard. the point of loneliness gets to where you dont care about who youre being loved by. you just crave the feeling, not even realizing that you have to return it. youre blinded by your own feelings, that you completely disregard someone elses. and i get what she was saying. its hard to love. its easier to take than to give.
“That is not the same as loving”
“I know.”
And yet people keep shipping Laurie and Jo, for what?
EXACTLY! I saw some people lamenting that they weren't together in the end, when in this scene, her mom kinda put the nail in the coffin - that deep down, Jo never loved Laurie.
Because love is way more a choice than an emotion or a just a feeling. That’s why a lot of people ship them. I’m glad that he married Amy though. This movie got robbed of Best Picture.
@@AyoTech83
i think Jo did love Laurie, but just not as a husband or crush. Like Laurie said the he's always loved Jo, but his love for Amy was a different kind of love. Jo loves Laurie as a close friend and partner.
I ship Laurie and Jo as a friendship and dynamic duo lol
This!!
Ugh...when she said "I'm so lonely" I felt that in my bones...and it brought me back to all the times I sat crying in my room because the feeling of loneliness was just so damn crushing...almost like you cant breathe.
This is painfully relatable.
I know I feel you
Me too
Even as a guy this scene hits you. The expectations of society vs what you want. The feeling lonely is heartbreaking. I love this scene. So true. I felt that, I am right there. In loneliness.
Absolutely it does! There’s zero reason why it shouldn’t affect men just like it impacted women. Loneliness isn’t confined to one gender.
Loneliness of women and loneliness of men are different in general. Most of the women stay lonely by choice. Most men stay lonely by no choice.
I agree with SEXYASSBOY1
@@orhanemiratlgan9478do y'all have to ruin the entire human condition with your gender nonsense?
@@orhanemiratlgan9478 "Erm actually, women are lonely by choice 🤓☝️ therefore men's loneliness is harder ☝️☝️" - You rn
She wants exactly what she doesn't want and this hurts her. :(
Perfectly summarised sir!🙌🏼
I care more to be loved... I want to be loved...
But I’m so lonely...
I feel this way... I feel so lonely and unloved I can totally relate to Joe here... 😢
Tiffany Sanchez I’m here if you need someone 😔
maya shimon thank you dear friend 🙂
You’re loved! By One who is perfect and all powerful
😢
Oftentimes, in order to truly overcome loneliness, we first have to learn to love ourselves. When we learn to forgive ourselves, we begin to feel less lonely and more caring and selfless for others. We wish to see others happiness first before our own, only to realize that the very desire and act of making someone else happy makes you happy too. I know it. I have experienced it, and you will be infinitely happier for it.
I am the 3rd of 4 daughters. As of this month, I'm the only one left that hasn't married. I am a writer. And have been so sure of a solitary life until now -- preferring that to the risk of heartbreak. This isn't just good acting. These are honest words. And they belong to the lonely people who know the value of love without its guarantee. I hope I'm not too afraid to love. Or too proud to be loved. I hope that this loneliness merely precedes good company.
loved this
Beautifully written and rings very true with me too
So well said! Thank you for this.
Very well said....so relatable
When she said I'm So Lonely, I felt that. It's a very particular kind of pain, to realize that who you are and what people expect out of a relationship just don't FIT, and that you're not willing to sacrifice who you are but you still long for that closeness.
The biggest factor here is that Jo is grieving. That is why she feels so lonely, it’s the realizing that all the beautiful times full of love, laughter and joy are just memories (in the past) that are associated with the ones you love that are no longer near or no longer alive. You begin to reevaluate what’s truly been important in your life and what/who has given it meaning. She wishes how badly she could go back in time, that’s why she wants Laurie around not because she is in love with him but because he’s a part of the past, apart of all the good times. Yes she wants to be loved be she also wants to give love - the love and care she feels she can no longer give to Beth. ❤💔
the feeling of wanting to be loved due to your extreme loneliness is just so well acted and heartbreaking. I can relate ...
Same
jo speaking of her loneliness is exactly what i’ve experienced most of my life. i’m the kind of girl that’s never been in love and that pushes anyone how may love me away. yet i feel so lonely. and it’s as though i’ve done it to myself.
phew needed to vent
Me too
Every girl's dilemma when she realizes the cruel truth is she will always have to protect her independence without risking the possibility of ever finding love. Never let go of both, you can have your own dreams and desires along with the love of someone, when you put those things together you can go far, just don't let go of either.
It's also so difficult finding a partner that fits. Either you pretend to be someone else and feel like you're loved at the expense of betraying yourself or be your true self and feel lonely but being honest. Love is a game with few real winners.
I can’t betray myself, I just won’t settle no matter how lonely I get. It’s a difficult choice to make but I choose to believe it will be worth it.
this part of the film hits the hardest.fear of growing up.fear that everything will change and nothing will ever be the same again. you don't know how that life will turn around.on the one hand,you want to open all the horizons of this world, but on the other hand, you want to always remain such a naughty girl of your parents and live this life carefree.and growing up, when all fly away to their "nests", you think that you are not needed by anyone , that you are just an extra burden for your long-grown relatives.and according to social norms, the girl's happiness is only in love.and you unconsciously want to be just loved.because subconsciously you think that you are already deprived of love and that you are very lonely.and it hurts...
this scene made me burst into tears in the theater because of how much her performance got to me and resonated with me, because its so true and I relate to it so much.
This is basically the most relatable scene ever
This scene broke my heart. I love her
Her Irish accent slipped through a bit in this scene but the acting more than compensates it.
Hers and Emma’s accent slipped through a lot in the film. That was really bothersome to a degree.
cocomatters To me, it was the severely inaccurate costumes. And to think it won an oscar
@@blainevanity6 mind to elaborate your statement?
chewychim Might I suggest Micarah Tewer's video. She is very thorough with it.
No, it's just the accent she's doing in the film -
Greta Gerwig's adaptation is the only interpretation of Little Women I will ever need. I will make sure my future daughters see this film to help them understand the importance of a woman's strength and power, but also the kindness and love that we are capable of wielding. Women are so powerful, we should never be underestimated !!
When Jo said the phase about the woman importance, she makes me cry, because all the words are true
this scene broke my heart into billion pieces and spat on my face
I remember seeing this scene in the cinema and being so moved that I started crying openly in the middle of the movie theatre. Saorise’s performance, Jo’s sadness and frustration but also, her saying things that me and so many people feel or have felt in their lives. Their desire for love but not settling for less, wanting relationships on their own terms but feeling so lonely, wanting a career they love but it’s not working out (or in Jo’s case, society bans it for women). Such a beautiful performance from Saorise and gorgeous writing from Greta x
I love how the mother just let her let it all out slowly, she just calmly sat there watching the things slowly flow out of Jo... I havent seen the whole movie yet but I've seen scenes.
Little Women is the next Pride and Prejudice (2006). In the future, We're gonna see it many times and always enjoy it as if it was the first time!
Yeah.. i love pride and prejudice a lot.. and now little women .. i watched both of this movies in the quarantine time. I can't choose which is best because people who watched it will know... I love love it.. both of the films are gonna be my all time favourite and going to re-watch these for the rest of my life.. and i never met someone who has same thoughts like me and who appreciates these types of movies and book..
Never! Pride and Prejudice is far better..
@@TheLove1055 it’s worse
@@allisonsky7230 No, it's certainly not worse. It's probably on the same level as Little Women but neither better nor worse.
True I really wish they make more movies like these. Movies like these are so much more than just movies, they're an experience! The writers and creators don't treat the audience like they're dumb, every second, every shot has meaning and intention, it's a work of art.
Her delivery of her lines hit hard and i love it. This was great
I like how this film explores the complexity of Jo's character, in that, she may present herself as a tomboy and she may put up this front that she doesn't care about girly things but in a later scene, after she sells her hair, she cries on the stairs about how her hair looks showing that she isn't above her girly side. Then in this scene after turning down Laurie and saying that she cares about her independence too much to give it up, she then breaks down in this scene confessing her loneliness showing that she is not above wanting to be in a relationship and wanting to be loved by someone.
“I’m so sick of it” hits different, every single time
As a 34 year old workaholic woman, I define myself so much in my work and my accomplishments. I keep wanting to do more with my life and stopping is not an option. I've had my heart broken so much I don't think I even have a heart anymore. But there are brief ... moments in time I feel loneliness. Saoirse portrayed this moment really well, I cried because I related so much to it.
At least you have your accomplishments some people don’t even have that dear and there also in their 30s imagine that
@@sleepycloudjk2543 you’re absolutely right
Wow! Fantastic acting from both Laura Dern and Saoirse Ronan. Im so glad I gave this movie a chance last year.
Never have I related to a character more than in this moment. After losing my grandparent and not getting the love or support I needed while grieving from family I tried throwing myself into my work. I believed that there’s was more to life than wallowing about, but oh how I craved some support or understanding. When someone gave me just a snippet of compassion I fell hard, not in love, but the feeling of being loved. Oh how I just wanted to feel loved, to feel some sense of happiness. Jo really embodied how so many feel and I think the actress did a phenomenal job. Bravo!
“i just, i just feel- i just feel like, woman the- they have minds and they have souls as well as just hearts, and they’ve ambition, and they’ve got talent, as well as just beauty and i’m so sick of people saying tha-that love is all a women is fit for, i’m so sick! but i’m s-, i’m so lonely”
I think this is one of the most emotional monologue in cinematic history It kills me to think how much she's waited to blurt out about her being lonely and wanting to be cared for. "But do you love him?"- "I care more to be loved" aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
23 and I just left my first boyfriend 2 days ago after 1 month of relationship, he was great and caring but I didn't feel like I belonged, I still had this feeling and need to be completely free and independent of everyone and everything even of him. Since then I haven't stopped thinking about this passage, it already resonated strongly in me before and now even more... I hope to have more of Jo's character in 2024
"he wanted a bride i was making my own name"
These dialogues are to be kept in frames and quotes . So close to my heart !
I remember crying while watching this scene. It was like my story.
I relate to Jo in so many levels.
SPINSTER.
I was one of the people upset that Laurie and Jo didn't end up together, but rewatching this I realize she was at a low point when she reconsidered his proposal. Like she was out of options and latched onto the idea of marrying him to *feel better* . It would be different if she was living her best life in New York and happy plagued with thoughts of Laurie but she didn't even give him thought until now.
this scene broke me. it's too real, too raw. never has a scene so perfectly encapsulate what i felt throughout my adolescence.
I love my mom so much, I do. She’s been amazing. But she’s also a single parent so she had to be quite strict. Sometimes I wish I had a soft mom who could be my confident for stuff related to relationships. If I were to have this speech with her I’d die of mortification.
I really connected with Jo in this film, and it makes me want to read the book just to spend more time with someone like me. I love my writing and want to spend the rest of my life doing it, and I love the idea of having friends to talk to about all of the amazing things I'm trying to push my art to do. However, even at a university studying my craft, I have no one around me that loves writing or the arts as much as I do and I feel so lonely.
Do people ever stop feeling like this?
She's an amazing actress. Every line to the build up of a climax - e.g. when she brings up Laurie, her voice sounds vulnerable and a bit defensive - that maybe she turned him down too quick, and maybe he'll ask her again, etc. It's SO GOOD.
"If I was a girl in a book this would all be so easy. Just give up the world happily. I've always been quite content with my family, I don't understand it. Perhaps I was too quick in turning him down, Laurie. If he asked me again I think I would say yes. Do you think he'll ask me again? I care more to be loved, I want to be loved. I just feel like women, they have minds and they have souls as well as just hearts. And they've got ambition and talent as well as just beauty, and I'm so sick of people saying love is all a woman is fit for. I'm so sick of it, but I'm so lonely."
The “I’m so lonely” part indicates her acceptance that maybe woman are meant to be with someone as she indicated in the beginning of the scene. She was willing to allow herself to be taken by someone for the simple fact of someone wanting/loving her regardless of how she felt towards the other individual. Time flys-this she noticed well. She was admitting to settling down if it meant she could find somebody who loved her and it seemed her last memory of someone who actually expressed such gratitude was her friend Laurie. As the quote goes, “Desperate times, calls for desperate measures”.
At some point, I really want to write an analysis of Little Women, specifically this version, involving a reading of Jo March as asexual and/or aromantic. Because this scene really just fits that reading, because Jo misses her childhood and the lightheartedness of it, and now she is expected to simply move on. She's slowly losing all her friends and family to romantic relationships and she doesn't want one, but it's expected and she doesn't see that there's a way out. And it's hard to watch people lose themselves in romance and then believe that it somehow outranks all other forms of love and then leaving her behind. The proposal scene from Laurie she doesn't reciprocate and she wants to remain friends, but she knows it's coming before he even says it and it's just the dread and anxiety of having to hear him finally say it.. And she's just lost a sister to something much more serious than romance. And Jo as a character does not handle change in great scale well, and it's just herself and society and expectations asking so much of her.
I don't really think I have the words to make it eloquent or coherent enough to really get at what I want to say but goodness it's such an idea (thank you to whoever made a post about it and I've been thinking about it ever since).
my goodness though, you said it so well.
I fully agree with this. On my first viewing I completely read Jo as aroace, and it's some of the best rep I've seen. This scene in particular shows just how tricky it is, not loving in a traditional sense - because Jo loves people, just not romantically - but still wanting to be loved.
Please write your analysis and share the link here. I would really like to read this take.
I love this!!
I am asexual and aromantic and i can tell you: well said. Thats was exactly what I felt when I watched this scene
Male here. This scene really struck a cord with me because of the parallels in my life. For much of my 20s I lost touch with a lot friends to concentrate on my career in the arts. I actively looked down on the culture of people my age. I researched philosophy and religions for meaning as my hobbies. However now Im 30 and I realize I have no friends. I threw away most relationship opportunities. And although I had these lofty ambitions and perspective while chasing my career, I feel like Jo. She too is wrapped in her own reality where she concentrates only on her art and as a defense mechanism shuns anything that isn't too that gain. But more importantly she shuns anyone who stands in that path. I feel like for Jo and I, there is this need to be great, to be loved because we cant cultivate that love for ourselves from within. People need other people in their life, its biological. The romantic aspect also might dig deep into intimacy traumas Jo was born with. I grew up in a broken home and Jo did as well (her father was never there). My only memory of my parents marriage was of loud shouting and police visits. I never understood true romance because i never saw it. Everytime I had a relationship it just felt like I needed to ruin it. It manifested itself at the time as a distraction but now I realize it stems from a deep seated trauma from childhood that was never repaired. I feel like this film in parts looks down on the classic vision of love and romance and a womens place in it. I understand that and dont know enough to judge. But these archetypes dont necessarily stem from just from human intervention and manifestation. I feel like there is a biological underpinning that brings us into relationships, romantic or casually. So even if not romance its good to have at least positive people your own age pulling you up.
No matter how beautiful or lofty our ambitions are, we need people. Otherwise we are just lonely. If you are lonely surround yourself with positive people first. Your heart will follow.
The dialogue is so smart that it adds an additional layer not only to the scene but to Jo's character too. She feels like she has a role to play in society and define all the people's close-minded opinions. But at the same time she is more tired than ever playing this part and for the first time she reveals weakness, pain and most of all loneliness. Brilliant writing
No matter how many times i watch this scene i would still tear up. It really hits close to home. The acting is top notch. I felt every word of it 🥺
Honestly as an aroace incapable of feeling the typical feelings for other people this hits home so hard. I want to be loved and to love people even if I don't know how to. It can be so lonely when everyone else cherishes and idolises something you just can't force yourself to feel.
i hate when people crop out the "im so lonely" bit out of this scene whenever they post it because i feel it's the most important part. even though jo is strong and independent, she too, craves for love and feels lonely and wanting to be loved doesn't make her weak or less independent
It must be very lonely when society won't spare you a passing glance if you don't fit the role it assigns you. It's sad that she would settle for marrying someone she truly doesn't love just so she will have someone around. She doesn't even really want romance. She really just wants loving relationships again.
This scene punches me in the gut. I've been alone and lonely my entire life. As a child, it seems like a temporary exclusion we cannot grasp, but then our conscience begins to dwell on its permanence. There's a desperation that starts to set in and a bleakness that outside of any other achievement one can attain in life, loving and being loved is not pledged to us.
This scene just explains my life now. I'm so lonely as well, Jo. 💔
I always cry or get emotional at this scene , there's something about this scene that really hits deep , it's the true bitter reality of society
I always tear up watching this scene as well, not that i feel lonely or anything but i just feel Jo
And still keep coming back watching this
@@everynamesliterallybeentaken Ikr 🥺 I get emotional every single time
This scene hits me so hard because I relate to Jo so much - we’re both writers and middle children. I keep crying just thinking about what Jo’s been through and because of Saorsie’s performance.
Y'all don't get it. Jo wants her family, she wants familial, communal love in a world with nuclear families and individualism. It's why the ending of her book is everyone living together, not far away from one another. It's not about "growing up" it's about knowing that as a woman, you are expected to leave your family behind to make another. Jo is so desperate that she's considering going for the very thing that isolated her sisters from her in the first place.
Brilliant acting from both Saoirse and Laura, they look as though they could be mother and daughter in real life as well! 💖
" I'm So Lonely " amazing actress the way she say, so broken.
this scene dude. when i first watched it in theaters i started bawling, even though i didn’t mean to. it hits so close to home, and it hurts so much. i’ve always hated the idea of depending on someone else, but i still am just so lonely. it’s an awful feeling.
Avoidant attachment?
This is one of my favorite film scenes.
The pain in her voice as she says she's lonely.
For her, she wants her freedom to create and to love but in this time she had to choose one or the other.
I can relate a lot to Jo. Her disinterest in love and prioritizing family and friends as number one. She lives her life the same way I live mine. I don’t want to label her but if I were to, I would classify her as aromantic. I’ve seen a lot of comments saying she isn’t ready to lose her innocence but I don’t view it that way. Not everyone wants to live their life following the traditional path. Not even in a rebellious way, but just naturally. I have never once had a crush on a person in real life. Or any interest in romance or imagined myself in a relationship for fun. It’s liberating to live life the way you want but it’s lonely watching your friends move on to prioritize their partner over their friendships (which is just the way of life for some) but it’s still lonely. It seems being aromantic is exciting in your youth but becomes more lonely as you get older
27 years going strong. Not one person has ever asked me for my number, I’ve learned that being lonely is someone’s better but again, I’m lonely.
“if i was a girl in a book this would all be so easy”
This is the scene that solidified this as one of my favorite films.
Look you can sugar coat it all you want, but at the end of the day, we are social creatures, we desire love and companionship, and that’s exactly what’s being displayed here, a cry for help.
And that was so good that you didn´t need a music background to cry.
There is nothing that has described me better than this scene. I want to do so much by myself, for myself - not bound by anyone or anything, not defined by a man but.. I'm so lonely.
I would say that this is one of the best acting ever, she is so relatable and her tone of voice is so beautiful, the way she talks, she expresses, she is so wholesome
this scene describes my thoughts in a way I did not expect. I relate to this exact scene perfectly and live this constant longing to be loved due to the loneliness I feel daily. I relate to jo in a way I didnt expect at all.
the way she says I’M SO LONELY hits me everytime 😭💔
The hurt in her voice 😢, but her acting is really beautiful ❤️
This scene hits me really hard. I always said that I’m happy being alone, I don’t need marriage, but then at the end of the day.. i’m very lonely. The thought of having someone to love and being loved kinda hurts..
How rare and immensely amazing to love and be loved in a relationship. Onesided situations suck.
her heartbreaking delivery of ‘i am so sick of it...but i am so lonely’ tore right through my tired soul
Jo March is my favourite character of all time, and because of this scene, Greta and Saoirse's interpretation is my favourite one.
The comment section is so beautiful and deep. I love it. Also, in my opinion, Jo was lonely but in the sense that the beautiful and warm past kept pinching her. She was constantly reminded of losing both Beth and Laurie. Jo was lonely because she lost both Beth, half of herself and Laurie, the only one friend she had. I always thought that Jo had it the worst. The poor girl did all in her power and became so selfless and she got NOTHING. Amy, I truly believe, deserved what she got but it made me heartbroken to see Jo trying to be best version of herself and still not getting what she deserved while Amy got all the fruits of her hardwork. I relate to her and I can just tell how it feels to see everyone tasting the fruits of the efforts while your efforts go in vain just as if a glass of water mixed to river- making no difference.
This scene was put together beautifully and emotionally.🥺
i just play this scene over and over again whenever i feel like bawling my eyes out
I’ve always resignated with Jo, i’ve always wanted to write never have much intention on marrying or having children, always wanted to make a name for myself. I have the same bad temper as she had, now I find myself wanting to date for the same reason she had said, I want to be loved but I dont want to lose my chance at life. when she delivered this speech I felt it with every fiber of my being.
This hits so close to home. In this era even more than before. Women can do so much, we drive our own destiny, our own careers, and to admit that we still want to be 'fit for love' too is sometimes hard to do.
“But I’m…I’m so lonely” gets me every time
i'm not jo march meaning i'm not headstrong, boyish and a writer but damn this part hits very close to home