Duelist resoluting and making us feel like there was a chance we got out of here was genuinely the most tense moment I've seen in DD in a long time. A heartbreaking loss for sure, but moments like that are what this game is all about.
How? How did you outlast Collector? I mean... May be you can use PD, Flaggelant and MAA, and kill Dismas's head at every turn, but why bother, when you have PD and Flag?
@@user-sp9ti6xe7t Vestal, Flaggelant, Jester and Duelist^^ I was not quite expecting Collector and was happy without skills targeting rank 4. I just refused to die and hoped he would stop summoning eventually
Lmao it is so funny how Sahar got resolution that would've turned it around then got flash light to the face by Vestal removing all her tokens 💀Headache is kinda busted vs dodge teams.
“The quest was more fun puzzle solving than looking up the answer” I just played through all the way to a mountain and unlocked the crusader in my first run I had no clue it was a puzzle
To be fair, while the nerf was good, it doesn't really change the fact that every head is still immensely dangerous in their own right, and collector can easily undo all the damage to both himself and the heads by resummoning them and life stealing (the life steal crit is brutal) interestingly I find this Collector and his posse to be even more dangerous than the double collected dismas of DD1, because they can do so much (debuffs, high damage, stuns/dazes, heals) and act as an incredibly well balanced team that is also extremely cohesive I've sworn an oath to oppose Collector to the bitter end ever since he took Dismas and Reynauld from me, so I think I've got a ton of experience of fighting this guy now (farming trophies tends to do that since I now always try to lure him out)
Collector just makes you never want to experiment with different comps and paths. I love that he is a treat, but the fact that you cant see him coming is kinda punishing. ( Yeah Vestal is garbage )
Like, not True at all? If You don't want to get Collectot just wait to get a Lair Trophy at the last región and avoid the Collectors head Stagecoach item, and it Will be very unlikely for him to show.
I feel like any decent team will be alright to deal with him though. Shuff's team in this one was really not fit for it because it lacked healing and rank 4 reach, and yeah Vestal is just not that good
@@jankleiss2485 if he had boot with duelist he may have had a chance, like some comments in his twitch said. But no disruption ability equipped, and almost no good offensive ability with Duelist. plus the thing You mentioned really Made Shuff lose
I thought this was gonna should duelist stunning Collector on turn 1 so the heads don't get a free turn after being summoned, since now that only happens on turn one.
I'd argue that even with a bad team the DD1 version was still doable, though it was an uphill battle. Haven't fought the 2 version yet but man has every fight I've seen been rough lmao...
You need to have a boss trophy in any capacity - it can either be equipped on your stagecoach or simply sitting in your inventory. The more trophies you have, the higher the chance of his appearance. The Collector's Chandelier stagecoach item will also increase his spawn chance, but it by itself won't enable him to appear if you have no trophies.
@@Cats_on_fire Nope, he is pretty Fun to Fight, and he aways gives you 2 Mastery Points :D Just Remenber, The Collector has a little Counter for almost every Team, Vestal Head Ignoring Dodge, Dismas Head Bleeding you, and Soo on, even the Best Teams are gonna Struggle a little Against him.... But, If you know what your Doing, he becomes pretty easy, he Also aways gives you 2 Mastery Points, soo.....
Had a really good starting run on the first region killing the sleeping general first node and my team walked out high stress and low hp then i went into a road battle and wiped to collector (i was using a dot team)
I agree with shuff's final comments, vestal did almost nothing in that fight and she was the main cause he lost. Either PD or flagellant could probably salvaged the fight.
Having your whole run lost because of RNG during the collector fight is just bad game design but w/e Dude knows darkest dungeon, played a lot dd2, try every comp. Someone who actually spent his time theorycraft and doing the good choices shouldnt be completly annhilated because of rng
I'd already rage quit this 🤣 I love this game but also hate it with passion how punishing it is, doesn't matter what team you take it seems like it punishes you for slight mistakes. I played over 300 hrs in first and over 100 on this since day one of EA, release definitely got harder.
Duelist resoluting and making us feel like there was a chance we got out of here was genuinely the most tense moment I've seen in DD in a long time. A heartbreaking loss for sure, but moments like that are what this game is all about.
I think you can outlast him. For me he stopped summoning post round 50…
How? How did you outlast Collector? I mean... May be you can use PD, Flaggelant and MAA, and kill Dismas's head at every turn, but why bother, when you have PD and Flag?
@@user-sp9ti6xe7t Vestal, Flaggelant, Jester and Duelist^^ I was not quite expecting Collector and was happy without skills targeting rank 4. I just refused to die and hoped he would stop summoning eventually
@@sanquinlily hm. Interesting comp. Thank you. I guess, now im going on Hastur hunting rodeo.
3:25 HAHAHAHA THAT ANIMATION BREAK LMAO he looks like Dr Livesy like that lmao
Lmao it is so funny how Sahar got resolution that would've turned it around then got flash light to the face by Vestal removing all her tokens 💀Headache is kinda busted vs dodge teams.
“The quest was more fun puzzle solving than looking up the answer”
I just played through all the way to a mountain and unlocked the crusader in my first run I had no clue it was a puzzle
To be fair, while the nerf was good, it doesn't really change the fact that every head is still immensely dangerous in their own right, and collector can easily undo all the damage to both himself and the heads by resummoning them and life stealing (the life steal crit is brutal)
interestingly I find this Collector and his posse to be even more dangerous than the double collected dismas of DD1, because they can do so much (debuffs, high damage, stuns/dazes, heals) and act as an incredibly well balanced team that is also extremely cohesive
I've sworn an oath to oppose Collector to the bitter end ever since he took Dismas and Reynauld from me, so I think I've got a ton of experience of fighting this guy now (farming trophies tends to do that since I now always try to lure him out)
Shuff after the defeat: I'm never gonna financially recover from this
Honestly it was not the collector Who killer you but your own team Who threw hard, like duelist and Audrey not Dodging any time 😂
The Vestal Head has a Move Called *""Headache""* that Ignores Dodge.....
If you have a Dodge Team, Kill the Vestal Head First.
Get`s Nerfed, still Teamwipes, Collector is truely a Chad
I feel like having The Boot would have just solved your no rank 4 dmg problem. not sure about the other stuff however.
Collector just makes you never want to experiment with different comps and paths.
I love that he is a treat, but the fact that you cant see him coming is kinda punishing. ( Yeah Vestal is garbage )
Like, not True at all? If You don't want to get Collectot just wait to get a Lair Trophy at the last región and avoid the Collectors head Stagecoach item, and it Will be very unlikely for him to show.
I feel like any decent team will be alright to deal with him though. Shuff's team in this one was really not fit for it because it lacked healing and rank 4 reach, and yeah Vestal is just not that good
@@jankleiss2485 if he had boot with duelist he may have had a chance, like some comments in his twitch said. But no disruption ability equipped, and almost no good offensive ability with Duelist. plus the thing You mentioned really Made Shuff lose
I actually thought from the description that you'll win
I thought this was gonna should duelist stunning Collector on turn 1 so the heads don't get a free turn after being summoned, since now that only happens on turn one.
You can't stun with not antagonista path duelist and even then you need upgraded coup du grace and then be on defensive mode.
@@BorrasitoTakaTaka unupgraded boot let's you stun on one path too. But you need combo and also defensive stance so.
@@SecureBirch410 very true.
I'd argue that even with a bad team the DD1 version was still doable, though it was an uphill battle. Haven't fought the 2 version yet but man has every fight I've seen been rough lmao...
collectors' vestal is more useful than yours
Rip on your heads getting collected but, very fun to watch
Have yet to fight collector in DD2 not sure what I'm missing to run into them
You need to have a boss trophy equipped to your stagecoach I think
This guy just sucks to fight
You need to have a boss trophy in any capacity - it can either be equipped on your stagecoach or simply sitting in your inventory. The more trophies you have, the higher the chance of his appearance. The Collector's Chandelier stagecoach item will also increase his spawn chance, but it by itself won't enable him to appear if you have no trophies.
@@Cats_on_fire Nope, he is pretty Fun to Fight, and he aways gives you 2 Mastery Points :D
Just Remenber, The Collector has a little Counter for almost every Team, Vestal Head Ignoring Dodge, Dismas Head Bleeding you, and Soo on, even the Best Teams are gonna Struggle a little Against him....
But, If you know what your Doing, he becomes pretty easy, he Also aways gives you 2 Mastery Points, soo.....
@@darkstar_xd well can you tell him to stop appearing in the first area after a lair
This was devastating! I lost all my Shuffbucks!
Had a really good starting run on the first region killing the sleeping general first node and my team walked out high stress and low hp then i went into a road battle and wiped to collector (i was using a dot team)
sahar might be my new favorite character
maybe guide any soon? I just stumbled upon this fella and perfect run turned into total obliteration...
collected
NOOOO NOT MY BOY :( I want him to be as powerful as a dungeon boss personally
Watching Sahar get hit through Dodge+ 3 times in a row hurt (1.5% chance of that happening btw)
It's called Darkest Dungeon not Nerfs a lot
I agree with shuff's final comments, vestal did almost nothing in that fight and she was the main cause he lost.
Either PD or flagellant could probably salvaged the fight.
No vestal bonk? D:
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well, this was painful to watch. Nice nerf
i havent even ran into him yet :(( he dont love me
he's too weak now. he just a sandbag that give out op trinket.
I cant even find the fuckin collector
collector still t-poses when he gets hit while being guarded? breh.
dodge still does not exist i see.
Should of run thrown dagger too win 😂
This was a great video! Very dramatic
Collector be collecting bad teams
POG!
God is Chaplain the worst path in the game
this game has gotten so hard, i don't think i can keep playing
when will they nerf collector for real...
speed, damage, heals, stuns, omnireach...
Wait why was he nerfed? He wasn't too difficult, as a dd1 vet smashed him first try.
>:(
Having your whole run lost because of RNG during the collector fight is just bad game design but w/e
Dude knows darkest dungeon, played a lot dd2, try every comp. Someone who actually spent his time theorycraft and doing the good choices shouldnt be completly annhilated because of rng
ya it sucks that in this game you can't retreat, so you run into collector and thats it.
I'm pretty sure he lost because he built a bad team
Remind yourself that RNG is a slow and insidious killer
Remind Yourself that Overconfidence is a Slow and Insidious Killer....
I'd already rage quit this 🤣 I love this game but also hate it with passion how punishing it is, doesn't matter what team you take it seems like it punishes you for slight mistakes.
I played over 300 hrs in first and over 100 on this since day one of EA, release definitely got harder.
Vestal is garbage 🗑️