Huge Buffs That Did NOTHING.
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Over the 10 years of Hearthstone they've buffed a shocking amount of cards. Today, we're taking a look at some that received EXTREME buffs, but still don't see relevant play in any decks.
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Some common FAQ:
1. X Y or Z was good in Arena. I bet it was! Card changes whether they be buffs, nerfs or reworks aren't made with Arena in mind. I also did not discuss them with Arena in mind. 😂
2. I'm sorry I physically hurt so many of you with my pronunciation of Addled Grizzly 😭
3. "Relevant play" for this video was determined by the card being in a top meta deck, those of which you'd typically see on a meta report, for more than a small enough time to no longer be dismissed as experimentation. I'm sure you could hit legend with decks built around any of these cards. 😅
Does this not include wild? Warhorse Trainer saw lots of play on wild BEFORE AND AFTER the buff
@@mkr4646 odd paladin hasnt been relevant in a bajillion years, but youd always play warhorse if it did
The worgen greaser joke buff actually affected the game negatively since there's a board clear dr boom adventure puzzle that was intended to be solved with 6/4 greaser, now the 6/5 greaser remains alive with 1 hp and the puzzle is unsolveable
How is that bad though? Greaser is king, and does not deserve to die.
i thought they patched the boomlabs puzzles?
Unrelated but I really like your profile pic.
I'm glad there are still fans of Brütal Legend ! That game was my childhood man
I think i dit it with the change this week. idk how i did it but i did
Don't forget the core set Mech nerf
Where it costs 4 instead of 2 now, making it impossible to play and clear the board too
the Anub'Arak-Umbra interaction is so funny, in magic it'd just be an outright infinite due to the unlimited board space.
actually, it gets better and funnier because by itself, it would end up as a game draw as you can't stop it
Wait, _unlimited_ board space?😨
@@robertlupa8273 yeah Magic has unlimited boardspace you can have 20 or 30 creatures on Board and it still couldnt BE enough depending on the opponents boardstate (or even detrimental If your opponents taxes you in some Form)
@@robertlupa8273Yup! Technically the newer digital client has a token limit of around 250~ or so? But that only counts tokens and doesn’t care about anything else. If you could somehow generate 32 thousand non-token permanents, you’d just be allowed to have those(assuming the client didn’t crash).
And of course in paper, you don’t have to worry about the client crashing or token limits, so anything goes. Have a creature that made a copy of itself whenever you play a land (Magic’s version of a mana crystal), including the ability to copy itself, and then manage to throw… let’s say… 12 lands on the battlefield? 2,176,782,336 creatures. None of which can attack, and are easily answered with a 4 cost board wipe.
@@robertlupa8273 Yeah spawning 2 million tokens with charge and beating face is a legit win con (Kiki Jiki/Felidar) but it's like ten years old and not even that good anymore
Warhorse trainer was buffed as it entered into core set, and buffed version did see some play in standard
Yea, I saw some decks running it every now and then
Ya cards def busted, just sad none stuck around because he couldn't carry any of them on his own 💀
Heck i played it. Played it with justicar truehart. It was okay. got me to silver at least.
@@TheZoragon i played it in legend... In previous year there was just enough ways to generate dudes in standard that it was barely ok... Mainly because of that guy from nathria that summoned dudes
It was bonkers in Duels... R.I.P.
Flame Leviathan would be really hype with tradable
Oh my
Draw entire deck.
Trade everytime after that.
???
Profit.
@@hngtuong you can't trade into an empty deck
Tradeable, dealing 2 damage to all enemies with rush. Would be strong
Them going to the effort of buffing Tyrantus and then printing Toyrantus who completely obsoletes it is just pure comedy.
😂
Tyrantus can be pulled by Oondasta or something though, Toyrantus loses the battlecry.
I do think they should buff Tyrantus even further though, but 4 mana draw a beast and double its health + 6 mana summon it from your hand might be a little bit unfun in certain matchups.
This made me think up a combo with stranded beach whale (or whatever the 4 20 from the new set is). Use these two cards, then use Hozen Healer + Crazed Alchemist for the OTK next turn.
Well you're right, no one has ever heard of "Add Lead" Grizzly, but we've all heard of Addled Grizzly
🫨🤐
Acidmaw saw play after the buff. It led to Trial of the Jormungars being nerfed to 6 mana instead of 5.
Notice how most of these cards on here are from the Grand Tournament. Perhaps that's saying something about the Grand Tournament.
TGT is funny because even at the time it was considered very weak, aside from Secret Paladin.
Who am i? NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
Seeing the Firebat gameplay at around 2:55 brings back so many memories of old school HS.
Yeah, out of all the hearthstone streamers at the time, he was my favorite out of the bunch.
Firebat was just an all-around nice, chill guy to watch. It really sucked to see him go.
I don't watch live streamers anymore, but I sometimes wonder if he still streams from time-to-time?
@@vitaminc9860he retired from streaming years ago, he's probably just working a normal job nowadays
@@BeefinOut Damn, sucks to hear that. I hope he's happy doing whatever he's doing.
Some of these cards were relevant in Caverns of Time era Arena. Worgen Greaser was genuinely good for like, two entire Arena rotations. Still kinda OK now.
no shot 💀 thats amazing 🤣
“You probably never heard or seen this card” me watching this going down memory lane back when I played hearthstone from the very beginning and is in and out for a bit. Definitely remember every single one of these.
Your pronunciation of addled was wild.
Also warhorse trainer’s full art is incredible I gotta go look at old art now
Old art is much different in that there's often characters/things completely cropped out 😂
Warhorse trainer was used a lot in wild
Still is in Odd Pally
Also in Silver hand paladin which was a solid tier 2 deck
Also in Duels!
2:06 simple mana theory (back when there was one applied) 3 mana to play the 3 1/1's, 1 mana to draw/create each one of them. Considering that you also get 3 random beasts back it was a card worth its mana. Just that being worth your mana is and was never strong. Especially in hunter, too slow you know.
woah, so much nostalgia. It's pretty insane how much hs got powercrept, but i really like them adjusting cards.
Me 2
Funny thing about the last two: it actually kinda messes with the Tombs of Terror solo adventure, specifically the Khartut’s Tomb. In that chapter, there’s a tomb that can summon random big deathrattles, and with some of the infinite value ones (specifically Anub), it can either a) create non-games when a player generates a minion for free, or even worse b) create a soft lock with certain anomalies, like the one that says a hero is immune while they control a minion. If both players end up with an Anub in such a scenario, it makes it nearly impossible for the game to end… yeah, I learned about this first hand, why do you ask? It’s not like one of the main reasons I keep coming back to this game is to play that chapter over and over…
I used to play hearthstone all the time and eventually I just started doing the roguelike adventures specifically. I watched them deteriorate firsthand when the quest enemy in rise of shadows started giving multiple quests at once, making the fight nearly impossible to win.
Warhorse trainer was INSANE in twist when it was around. It togheter with quatermaster made the dude package so much worth it, also this card was definitely stronger of the two. This dude package is what made palladin so strong also, so without this single card i would argue palladin would see litlle play in twist. It was semi permanent savage roar with a very good body and annoying taunts.
Warhorse trainer is busted for sure, any lower power format in twist that comes back where hes legal he will likely be good, just needs a place! 😎
So as a Naxxramus player, the Ball of Spiders had 2 things:
Deathrattles were very rare value cards since we were still in a Vanilla card era like Yugioh before powerscaling.
The second reason is we had Beast activators in Hunter that worked really well with Ball of Spiders. The issue is that everything now has an effect just like Yugioh, so Ball of Spiders has alot less power scalling now since we are past the Quest era of Ungoro
Ball of spiders is something I do remember playing waaayyyy back for 6 mana, and I still play it today in my Ramekhan Roar Hunter, good stuffs, good video!
I don't play Hearthstone often, but I believe that Warhorse Trainer sees play in Wild and it can be very strong due to how many cards are available that summon Silver Hands.
i see warhorse trainer in literally every SHR deck in wild. so common that i plan my turns around seeing it
Idk if this is for wild but ball of spiders is good in standard. It synergizes well with jungle gym, the 2 mana 1/4 myths guy, saddle up, patchwork pals and the pups. I play it in spell token hunter with good success
The fact that it got cut and isnt run in current versions of token hunter made me feel okay enough to include. I know it saw play there for a bit! But for that big a nerf it shouldnt be getting cut for me to say it mattered 😂
“ADD LED” grizzly 🤦 8:41
my bad
Just want to immediately note that when analyzing a card like Flame Lance, going 'it's bad because you could just play Assassinate or Shadow Word: Death instead' is kinda weird to me, like the answer is obviously no, these cards are from other classes? What is much more relevant is that for one less mana you have Fireball which does a little less damage but can go face, or Polymorph which is honestly just the much better card as it negates death rattles. Plus, at the time BGH was 3 mana, so dealing with 8 health card that also has 8 attack like any giant is something you can do for 3 mana. Regardless, the reason a class card is bad is never ever because another class can do it better, especially in these early sets when classes could not do everything very well. Mage just happened to already have better spot removal, better than both assasinate and sw:d as well.
Sure, was just some popular comparisons at the time. Should have mentioned fireball
I remember Malorne being part of a lot of druid mill decks, just to slow down their own fatigue in mirror matches
Ill be honest. I miss 2014 hearthstone. I wish i could go back
you miss being a kid with no responsibilites and unlimited free time lol
7:00 doesn'T see play? what??
Also, you can't tell me that a card buff that drove beast druid, a joke archetype for so long, to RANK 1 LEGEND in WILD(!), was a nothing-buff
The buff came after the deck stop being good 😅 I can only imagine the additional horror if it came then
Shadow word death used to be 3 mana if I remember correctly. It was also buffed like assassinate.
That feeling when you have been playing since the start and do in fact remember that card and even trying to make it work lol.
Annoying pronunciation correction is annoying; I believe that in "addled grizzly" the "addle" is pronounced similar to "paddle" without the "p," i.e., the verb "addle" is being used to describe the grizzly and when modifying it as the receiver of the action (think "frustrate" --> "frustrated"), "addle" transforms into "addled."
Irregardless, great video!
I totally thought he was saying "madlad grizzly" as a joke, cause I couldn't tell what the card's name was until it popped on screen.
He also called Coldarra Drake "Caldera Drake"
I'm the same man that pronounces Imprisoned Antaen as "Imprisoned Antenna", aka sometimes I don't bother to try to get it right because I think it's funny. Calling it add lad grizzly can't possibly be right, but hes a cool lad
(with that said, theres like 10 comments mentioning it, so i'll try to do better in the future as it seems to be in everyones best interest)
👨🍳 hes cooking, thats his name from now on 🤣
Warhorse Trainer actually did see meta play for a while; during the pure Paladin meta of Festival of Legends. Pure Paladin was the top deck, and you could run… basically any flavor of pure Paladin and you were running a top tier deck.
i actually did use Warhorse Leader in my Silver Hand deck long before it was buffed. Silver Hands were ok in the Grand Tournament but i remember people were not using Warhorse Leader back then ether
The thing about ball of spiders is: 6 mana draw 3 at the time with an upside would have been playable (though probably not in hunter tbh, yeah they didn't have a lot of value generation, but they also didn't really care unless it gave tempo too), but it was actually 6 mana draw 3 bad cards with what was usually an additional downside of having a delay on getting those cards.
Tyrantus' taunt keyword could be seen as a nerf because before it was a minion that was hard to get rid of even if it wasn't strong, but now it could just be smacked by any minion, it's iffy since it isn't good in the first place, but taunt is a give and take
Yeah it doesn't look like a taunt minion either, i mean it's a giant carnivorous Raptor, so it would've made much more sense to give it Rush instead.
Impressive that you found footage of a streamer playing ball of spiders ! 😄 Completely forgot about that card, cool video
helps when the 8 year old video is titled "Ball of Spiders Hunter" 🤣
Malnorne may technically be stronger… but I hated the buff. I love playing big dumb value games that oftentimes can get to fatigue
Ball of spiders would have been insane if it would have been printed at 4 mana back then
Yea likely. It's almost good now at 3
@@JordanMGwhen they buffed s ball for twist is made hunter best class for a whole twist season 😅
Yeah, as someone who only played Hearthstone back then, I still remember Webspinner as an insane card. Even though most Beast cards sucked (both in retrospect and at the time), the value was too crazy to resist.
I actually used Warhorse trainer in an odd paladin deck that I pushed to D5 in wild. It was a great card in the deck (I in fact played 2 copies in the deck)!
if you’re playing odd pally, trainer is the best card in the deck by far. Odd pally is just a bit outdated
this is indeed the take that I made, ain't no one arguin warhorse trainer aint busted 💀
Lmao the dramatic reading of 2014 like a decade was a century
7:20 This card is played in different game modes, not mainly in normal mode. But I have seen it quiet a few times last year in some recruit builds in wild :D
The biggest design issue with old Hearthstone that I remember, was that 1 mana minions were broken and 8+ mana minions were garbage.
🤔😅
IMO they should do the minor buffs (like 1 star point) but WAY more frequently and dynamically. Why not have every card potentially be usable in the right deck, and the meta constantly changing as cards subtly shifted in power
Interesting pronunciation of addled grizzly
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Ball of spiders should've gotten the barrel of monkeys treatment: 1 mana spell, summon 1 1/1 spider (3 left!).
Hot
Odd Paladin was crazy at one point
Keep making this style of video man, I’ve just got back into hearthstone and this content is really entertaining, good stuff!
Shadow Word: Death was 3 mana at the time of The Grand Tournament, but Flame Lance was still laughably bad on release. To be fair, most cards in The Grand Tournament were absolutely garbage on release. (Ball of Spiders, Warhorse Trainer, Poisoned Blade, Knight of The Wild, Anub'arak were all from TGT, and that was just mentioned in this video.)
Also, fun trivia! Journey to Un'Goro's cinematic didn’t have a song, and a reddit thread reached gained enough traction to cause Ben Brode, the lead game designer at the time to write and perform his own rap for Journey to Un'Goro.
Warhorse Trainer sums up current hearthstone pretty well right now. It's so cheap and such a good buff and yet does nothing cause nothing lives even 1 turn. You summon any silverhands they just die immediately.
Someone who gets it 🤝
00:00 - Intro
00:24 - Flame Lance
01:35 - Ball of Spiders
03:23 - Worgen Greaser
05:11 - Flame Leviathan
06:41 - Warhorse Trainer
08:34 - Addled Grizzly
09:42 - Poisoned Blade
11:07 - Knight of the Wild
12:55 - King Mosh
14:18 - Tyrantus
15:36 - Anub'arak
18:04 - Malorne
19:47 - Honorable Mentions
20:46 - Outro
Saw your vid about oppressive cards and now subbed, I’ve been wanting hearthstone content like this takes me back. You’re doing GREAT
🙌 thanks :D
Thoroughly enjoyed this trip down memory lane. Nice upload
fr though what the actual fuck were they cooking during TGT
Hams! They're in the lower left corner of the board.
If I can't rotate the ham, what's the point?
Mysterious Challenger. That's it for the most part.
Funnel cakes!
Tgt came after people were complaining about the powercreep in naxx, gvg and black mountain, so I guess they were trying to make an expansion that mostly didn't overwhelm entirely what already existed.
Yeah, it was kinda underwhelming by design.
@@henriquepacheco7473 I don't think they designed it to be underwhelming, just that they vastly overestimated the power of the two main gimmicks of the expansion. Both Inspire and Joust cards were given too low baseline stats to be worth playing, without taking into account that 1) Hero Powers are extremely inefficient uses of mana and 2) Joust needs a very top-heavy deck that loses to every aggro deck ever.
Warhorse Trainer did actually see relevant play in Top Decks in Wild for a time.
Odd Dude Paladin absolutely eats this up
Your pronunciation of "Add-led" Grizzly physically pinged me for 1. But otherwise, great video.
My bad bro I'll do better in the future 😂
"probably you have never heard about this and that card" Nah, 3 gangs set was the last I played, these are the cards I got and remember
The point is this: they can buff all the cards they want. The Wild meta will always be dominated by aggro decks (Pirate Rogue, Even Shaman, etc.). So, you never get to turn 6-7.
The only way to make the game more diverse and give meaning to the buffs is to limit aggro decks, for example by increasing the initial health. But Blizzard will never do this because the kids playing on their phones while sitting on the toilet want 4-minute games. Just enough time for a quick bathroom break.
I remember pretty much all of these being played pre-buff, but then I did play a lot of arena.
Arenas a whole different game. I imagine these are all great in Arena, especially now
"Did anyone of you even know that Anub'arak got buffed?" Yes, I learned it the hard way when it ended one of my dungeon runs. Might not be viable in constructed, but can be very vicious in solo adventures
I've since learned that! 😅 it going brr there
They should just quietly keep buffing Greaser every year until it's eventually the most efficient vanilla creature in the game like a decade from now.
would be ideal
As soon as we get a new expansion where they try to shovel dude paladin, Warhorse Trainer will go CRAZY
yea for sure
I forgot firebats existed, he kind of just fell on the planet, into a black hole. I honestly don't remember why he did, but I think it was cause he was caught doing some naughty stuff.
Nah that was a different streamer(s).
Firebat just called it quits after a long and successful career when his numbers and passion began to shrink and went to college and on to live a normal life out of the spotlight. He can sometimes, albeit rarely be seen on his friends one-off streams playing random games
"You have probably never heard of this... Poison Blade"
Ah... truly the game has changed while I was away...
😂
Warhorse Trainer and Ball of Spiders have been staples of Standard decks as recently as this year (Granted, Swarm Hunter has completely fallen off) so those two should have been touched on some more.
anub'arak is poggers in the dalaran heist, but that's the only use I can think of for it lmao
he sounds busted in solo adventures frfr
What's fun is some of these changes happened but we're never given support because of a format that no longer exists. I miss duels. Even if the cards mentioned here were some of the most TOXIC cards in duels. Imagine a hero power where for 3 mana you get two silver hands. Imagine having a treasure that could make them all permenantly be 3/3. And then add in the fury of "haha, they all have taunt now".
They couldn't give more cards to make that deck stronger in duels. So standard oddly suffers for it.
Thing is, it's so simple to ban cards for duels. They did it all the time but noooooo we can't have nice things. Had to are the format even though people were playing it after the update until we all got booted from the server. I still miss the format. I still want it back.
JordanMg: you could get it in 2 or 3 turns which is basically late game at this point
Modern yugioh players: 2 or 3 turns what?! Turn 1 is already late game for us
yugioh lategame is halfway into the first player's first turn
Tbf if spider card for hunter would be a 5 mana cost, it would be Kinda insane. Hunter early on had problems with generating cards and sometimes wanted cheap beasts like this, Mostly for Hyegna, i runned that 1/1 spider sometimes.
when they buffed anubarak it was bugged, and _any_ nerubian would have his deathrattle, even if he wasnt in the deck. It was patched quickly but cards that made nerubian tokens suddenly got insane lol.
:O thats a story for a future video 💀
@@JordanMG it only worked with beneath the grounds, my mistake. Still quite funny nonetheless haha
its crazy how power creep has affected the game, Wogren Greaser could be a 4 mana 7 7 and prolly still not be good enough, Tyrantus could have lifesteal, rush and deathrattle add it back to hand and it still might not see play
Another Jordan vid, another like given before the video starts!
If I could give some (unsolicited) feedback, the commentary on individual cards did feel a bit long in this video? There were a few points where it admittedly felt like the nail was already in, and the hammer kept hitting it, if that makes sense.
Anyway, would like to see you do some sort of video on Twist, before it (nonsensically) goes away again in a week and a half! 😃
A part of me hopes that every year, worgen greaser gets that singular hp buff, until a few years down the line it is the healthiest boi in the game.
Real
tyrantus about to make wild druid pretty crazy with the new spells they get
😂
I feel like Flame Lance could be "Deal 10 damage to the highest health enemy minion, then deal any excess to the enemy hero"
Ball of spiders + saddle up felt unbeatable before saddle up’s nerf because it refilled your board so efficiently it was almost impossible for your opponent to board clear you
Yea that was its best moment. Somehow saddle up got nerfed and then ball of spiders got cut and saddle up didnt 😅
"Ad-Led Grizzly" 💀
They tend to make cards cost too much that no one will play it, even today. Eg Ryecleaver in the latest expansion.
Poisoned blade has to be the one of if not the worst designed card in the game. Aside it being aweful, its also better in literally any other class since it won't disable the hero power.
Fun fact: Poisoned Blade's effect is likely a reference to how Rogue's Hero Power used to work all the way back in alpha? Beta? It equipped a 1/2 Dagger, or gave your weapon +1 Attack if you already had a weapon. I think it was considered too "unfun" (maybe not even "broken") to play against, because of... Assassin's Blade I guess. Early HS was a whole different beast.
@robertlupa8273 yep. Also in miracle rogue it wasn't too bad. Poison blade with gadgetzen auctioneer and all the weapon buffs to then blade flurry your opponents board and face for like 25 damage
One can only imagine a world where they printed good cards in TGT. Maybe Inspire would have gone evergreen if all the cards weren't terribly overcosted
wow anub'arak i played that card in a value rogue back in the day and it actually worked. no idea it got buffed so hard lmao
Warhorse trainer was meta an expansion or two ago though right? Wouldn't say that buff did nothing
Buff definitely mattered, the cards nuts, but odd paladin was basically gone just as he arrived 😥
i actually used the 6 mana ball of spiders as it was and was good.
but that was in arena
I played Anu'batak back then on my greedy rogue deck since I pulled it & therefore had to make the best of it. Truly a fun card when fighting warrior and a few other greedy decks XD
Didn't know of the change but it truly would have been strong back then!
😎
I think the thought process for 6 mana for three webspinners is it was kind of like 6 mana for 3 1/1 and draw 3 cards
IMO Queen Carnassa is the biggest example of this. Like they gave her rush and +5 raptors, and noone even looked her way lmao
9:13 beast druid was def a meta deck with addled grizzly. For at least a month.
Just HS balancing team is one of the worst that exists. Most of time their buffs and nerfs don't do anything or just straight kill card. Example is Druid stample Innervate. This card went from being in every single druid deck (very healthy for game) to being only used as a combo for OTK (again very healthy card for the game). Before nerf at least when you was innervate you was thinking about Druid only mechanic - ramp and it was pretty easy to change it to being healthy ramp card for most decks - just change it to be 1 mana card with effect: "Get 3 mana this turn only.". Then if it's still too good, change it to 2 mana get 4, then 3 get 5 and so on until probably 5 or 6 mana cost, leaving easy to balance stample card, that fits most of decks and is perfect definition of Druid.
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8:00 WDYM you just showed being played in wild, it was pretty popular after patch.
yea the criteria for "relevant play" was a top deck in winrate, like you'd typically see in a meta report. you could play odd paladin right now and hit legend if you wanted, but its not a good deck!
Hs community in 2014: please buff these cards
Hs devs in 2024: we got you fam
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I believe shadow word death was 3 mana that time. (When he speaks about flame lance.)
indeed
Logically since flame leviathan says it attacks all characters except mechs would this apply if your hero has a mech themed skin? 🤔
after the king krush skin bug who knows LMAO
Remember when Blizzard deliberately buffed Sunset Volley to nerf it.
😂
I've been playing with ball of spiders in standard for some months now & yeah at best it's "good" tho it can be quite fun. I've gotten Paladin's 3 cost legendary beast that works with reno decks for a boost of value. Also get king plush & other worthwhile beasts from time to time so not bad when thought of as a 3 mana 3/3 split into separate bodies that give some more gas
sounds fun!
Warhorse trainer saw a lot of play in Odd Paladin. The buff did a lot. Problem is that Odd Paladin as a whole isn't superstrong in Wild
Indeed
Oh remember all these cards. I played them 🥲
Still my two only golden legendaries were from TGT; Anub’Arak and the god-awful 4/4 impaler.
At least some of these are much less horrible when randomly generated in like, Tavern Brawls or something.
Everyone pointing out “addled grizzly” but nobody calling out that the past tense of cost isn’t “costed”, it’s cost.
Fair, I can see people not caring about that one as much as
bro i'm a fossil every card you said maybe you never heard i played at some point lmao
I did too 😂
Anub'Arak was extremely obnoxious in Arena when Caverns was in rotation, especially when he was randomly generated
i can imagine 😱
I think a number of these are pretty misleading, most notably the lack of distinction you have put for wild and standard's formats. There is a solid argument a number of these cards in their buffed state would see play in standard now/at the time they were buffed or a bit earlier.
An overwhelming number of the cards you have put on this list where from the twist buffs happened, which placed cards in awkward situations of having to be good enough in wild but not broken in twist. Many of them simply happened to buff some of the most historically worst cards and give them a second chance, and others a "catchup" to what used to be a good card.
The card you did put in this list that has existed in standard since its buff, Ball of Spiders, saw play in token hunter throughout the deck's lifespan in Whizbang according to Vicious Syndicate reports and most HSGuru decklists. For being here for an expansion and some change, its done well and the buff was impactful.