Custom R32 Instrument Cluster UPGRADE (Faded Screen FIXED)
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2018
- Install a custom R32 Instrument Cluster UPGRADE and fix the faded MFI The center screen in my instrument cluster was not working? So I removed the cluster, and sent it to have the faded screen repaired. I had a full color MFI installed. Now the cluster has the tons of options and settings, with out having to replace the instrument cluster. Gauges, needles, cluster LEDs, and more can all be changed.
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BTW this is NOT a sponsored video. I happily paid Matt. It may seem like a lot of money, but consider the cost of a new cluster. You can also get the same screen that came in the car for about $150.
HumbleMechanic Matt has awesome products. Genius engineering.
Damn! That's sick! I've never seen such a cool electronics related mod.
HumbleMechanic you said that you will be doing this to a b5 Passat will this fix work on my b5 a4
I think so. I’d recommend contacting Matt and asking him just to be 100% sure. Or the link to his FB page may give that info too. I want to say yes but I’d hate to be wrong here. I know it’s good on the VW side since the cluster is almost the same as my R32
Unfortunate? I only change odometers for legit reasons and make people sign waivers for it. I actually PUSH cloning over "correction" way more so that all original cluster info is carried over and no "fraud" is happening. Also keep record of all odometers changed so if anyone ever has a question of what the original mileage was, I have record of it.
The total number of odometer 'corrections" that weren't clones are in the single digits across hundreds of clusters and all but 2 were actually increasing mileage on donor cluster. I don't take kindly to odometer fraud so honestly not sure why you believe I push illegal corrections so heavily when that's not the case ;)
45 minutes before I need to open the shop, a cup of coffee and a HM video...its going to be a good day. Thanks Charles
Skoda in the USA. its future
Just re-badged VW, same as Seat (say-it or seet, no idea, anyway, awfully creative name for a car..) Don't see the point why we need that in States.. Literally same cars, different logo.
KRAUSER0130 Hey, it may seem stupid for native English speakers but in reality it actually means Sociedad Española de Automóviles de Turismo. And Skoda is actually older than VW. These brands in Europe are a chaper alternative to VW, which is a cheper alternative to Audi. And they all use the same engines and they share platforms.
Funny enough, even if the Skoda is on the same platform as VW (engine, suspension, etc) the build quality is really good, even better than VW in some cases.
@@KRAUSER0130 maybe they have the same engines and electronics but the quality and the equipment-standards are different.VW have better quality and interiors more like audi standards ,vw it's upper class than skoda and seat.
KRAUSER0130 lmao not the same cars at all. Only engine etc
I have only ever seen this on 1 other Golf and that was in the UK the changes you can do on these are incredible and I'd love one in mine
OMG Charles, I need that. Thank you for sharing. I'll be talking to Matt soon!
I've had some projects that have turned into a cluster I'd like to modify. ;) This is a great mod. Thanks for sharing!
LOL Cluster jokes! I like it.
That looks brilliant.Great functionality, and looks spot on.
I want one for my Pug.
Well worth the money. I love how modern it looks even though the car is 14yrs old, but at the same time looks like that was a standard feature on the r32.
Now that's a sweet upgrade!
BRIAN!!!! Hey dude. Hope you are doing great.
Hell yeah! This thing is bad ass for sure!!! If I didn't have a cobb accessport in my mk6 gti this would definitely be an essential upgrade. Loving the r32 content. 👌🏼
It's awesome for sure. Thanks for the support.
THANK YOU for this information!!!! Matt not only change out my color LCD on my 2007 Touareg but also replaced the screen on my navigation system. HE SAVED ME HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS!!!
That’s AWESOME
the best “car” youtuber!!!
Man, this is a great channel. Wish I'd discovered it sooner. One of my cars is an MKV Jetta and I would LOVE to have this mod done, but he posted on his FB page that he can only do OEM screen replacements for the MKV at this time. It works fine, I just want that fancy screen. :) God that looks fantastic.
That's an awesome mod. I've had 3 different MKIV's (2 GTI's and a R32) and all of them had this screen fade issue. In the event I go back to an R32 (I got rid of mine a year ago. A decision I regret and am considering remedying in the next few months) I'll definitely be going to Litke for my mod. Thanks for sharing so much info on these cars. After so long since release, obtaining information that's still current can be problematic as the Vortex is slowly dying off and there just isn't as much info generated from the last 2-3 years easily available.
It’s probably still my favorite mod on the car lol
Haribo are great!
This is really cool! The options he has listed on the link is really something else! Thanks for demonstrating this!
That is a sick screen upgrade!
That is phenomenal work, I have been wanting to do something like this for a while.
A fantastic upgrade!
Aye Matt is in a b5 Passat forum I’m glad you co-signed him!
One of the best pages honestly. The admin team has to do very little to keep that page nice unlike the MKIV pages where the team is always addressing something haha.
Matt is the bomb. He does kits for key conversion too, would highly recommend working with him 👍🏻
Thanks Jordan. Matt has been awesome to work with
Lots of cool options, very nice upgrade.
I need it for my S4. I have seen a few options for this setup so that’s awesome more people are installing this display.
Do it! :)
I will put it on the future mod list for sure. I am loving all of the R content.
That is a cool upgrade for your cluster, I'm still searching for one to fix in my Audi A6 C5. I've seen it so many times and it is awesome!
Reach out to Matt, he might have a solution for you.
Curses you Charles! I have plenty of other things to sort out on my Mkiv Jetta and now you’re making me want to spend more money on this lol! This is definitely getting added to the “Want To Do” list!
I know I know, I am in the same boat. LOL
Insert *take all my money* meme here.
Bro.
I'm about to buy a B5.5 Passat with the fading issue and have been stressing out over how to get it solved.
THANK YOU.
I'm upset you didn't post this when you ordered it! Now I gotta wait until the Fall for my install. So stoked for this replacement MFA. This has all the gadgets I could ever want.
It will be worth the wait. :)
As long as I can get all the goodies installed before WITW 2019, i'll be golden. Got a custom BBK from rotorlab.com coming this week (Toureg 1LE 4 piston calipers), diverter valve from noweeds.net, and this Color MFA from litke.
Hell yes to that. All of that!
Been following the Vortex thread on this for a while and I'm glad to see it in action. If I decide to hold on to my R longer, this is definitely going on the "to do" list. My MFA is unreadable any time it gets warm. This would solve that issue and bring some modern features to the R.
Yeah it’s awesome. I need to update my vortex post. 😂
That's pretty cool. Back when I had my Mk4, I had swapped out the instrument cluster for the full pixel display MFI cluster. It did have that fade problem and it would even go out on occasion and I'd need to restart the car to get it back up. A lot has changed since those days, and I probably would have been able to use my original cluster for this mod. (BTW, still have the original cluster in my basement if anyone needs one).
Brother that is awesome, And that makes the R look awesome. Having the option to monitor MVB too! I will be doing business with your friend. Great video.
3:00 - funny enough, at least the older Volvo stock clusters can do almost this, e.g. they will not clarify the issues nor clear the fault codes (you still need a scanner for that), yet can list the installed modules along with the code status per each. A great feature when tracking down a floaty fault!
This is such a cool modification! I am definitely considering this for my R32 and my Bora. I'm intrigued what can be added/amended through the USB port on the back, is it end user programmable or do you have to send a request to Matt and have him send something back for you to install?
HumbleMechanic Thank you so much for showing this because it is exactly what I needed for my Mk4 R32.
AWESOME! BE sure to let Matt know you saw this video. :)
This is very cool. Definitely an upgrade for the future.
Oh wow that is soooooo cool !
Hey Charles Thanks for sharing
I laughed when i saw the gummy bears, classic Matt! Love how amazing this turned out. Matt's quality is 2nd to none, A+! Well suited for your R32
Yep he’s the man!
Ok that's cool. Hopefully my mk7 never has that problem but it's good to know there will be someone out there who can fix it
Omg this is the coolest thing i ever saw! I thought this was only possible with newer cars!
I hope i can find something like this in Europe😱...
The shipping would be more, but Matt might be able to do that too.
HumbleMechanic But besides the fact it is already expensive, i would also have a LOT of downtime for my car (Jetta Wagon, of actually it's a Bora here)...
Shipping rates across the pond are actually quite reasonable, however in the AR Ditta is the man you would want to speak to. He's the UK rep and installer.
Holy shit. What an upgrade.
Wow that's awesome!
That's crazy I didn't know the r32 could do that! I'm going to reach out to him for my b5.
Do it!!
Charles the USB port on the back allows you to flash firmware updates to the Color MFA. It also allows you to upload different startup screens when you turn the cluster on. HMU on FB and I'll give you the link to the Color MFA Google drive that Matt provided...
AWESOME! Thanks Jeff. I think Matt sent that over to me. I need to put a THM logo on that.
Jeff King ah, I was under the impression the USB was what fed information to and from the screen. So the screen is actually (and properly) soldered into the standard gauge harness? That's even more impressive than I originally thought!
Yes it's all "self contained". The cluster already recieves all the necessary data via CANBus and a few analog signals. The USB is only for updating and boot image uploading. Only need to add extra wiring in the following cases:
Boost Gauge: run single wire to ECU for MAP return feed. This also works on none factory boosted cars.
No factory screen type cluster: run 6 wires for menu controls and outside temp sensor but this is the same steps as adding a factory screen cluster.
Early MK4's with low speed comfort CANBus: Need 2 twisted wires run to the CCM so that the door open image works and will show what doors are open.
Ooh now that is very nice 👌🏻 quality bit of kit
Holy crap, no lie this is the first smart engineering choice I've seen by Volkswagen. A cover and literally 2 screws to remove the instrument cluster. Awesome. On a 1992 Honda accord, theres like 12 hidden screws and you have yo take off the entire flimsy cover which always ends up breaking.
Chris Hernandez lol, my low fuel light didn't work and I dreaded having to take it out.
Oddly enough VW actually did get things fairly right with their clusters. All off them after the late 90's can be removed in less than 10 minutes and even the earlier water cooled ones come out easily even though they do require taking off a few more parts but still 15 minutes max to pull them. Everything else on the cars though.......... not always that easy haha.
The only one that "requires" a good amount of parts to remove is the Passat. But you can work around that. LOL
Truth! The one that took me the longest to ever remove though was a B5 A4. Even though it takes 20 seconds to expose the 2 screws, it was like someone used an impact driver on the screw so was way over torqued, stripped the head and then left a surprise for the person (me) who had to remove the cluster haha.
Amazing, this R32 series is great!
🙏🙏🙏thanks for this. You sir are the best
You’re killing me Charles!! My money is going straight to my R32!! Lol.
Great vid as always Charles. Quick question? What is the turn around time for something like this? My car is my Daily Driver and having the cluster out and car down for X amount of time.
Lead time for unit production is 3-4 months. Actual install only takes 2-3 days. If no other mods are being done can usually install the unit and turn cluster around next day even.
LOL, sorry man I know I am killing ya. HAHAH. Matt was super fast. If I had to, I would rent a car. HAHA
Get another old cluster from the scrap yard or EBAY and use that while your cluster if off getting the upgrade. When you get your cluster back simply sell the one you swapped out.
Looks awesome
Love it!
Wow fantastic. I want this for my mk4
That's really cool!
It’s SO awesome
Hey, just did mine 2 weeks ago. :D With the exception that I did the installation myself
Hell yes.
I'm literally gobsmacked at how awesomely brilliant and OEM plus this is! Nice one Charles! 😎
RIGHT! It's so simple but so awesome. I don't mean the install or programming is simple, but it was easy for me HAHAHA
you remind me of one of my old highschool teachers he was awesome by the way and had a cool bread like you !
Thanks I will take it. :)
Your welcome!
That's so cool!
Oh I'm getting this for my R for sure
To this day, it's my fav mod
This is really both a fantastic fix and upgrade. I especially like the diagnostic integration. But I mostly only drive my mk5 GTI on snow days, and already have a VAG-COM, so for me it isn't justified.
This exact mod doesn't work on MK5. For MK5 you are looking at the Auto Polar unit.
Wow!!! That's is so cool. I own a 2012 Volkswagen EOS. (Well it's my wife's car) But it my first Volkswagen since my 1969 fastback. In 1974. And she loves this car. So I want to always find an up grade for it. And that's one I can use.
NICE! For your EOS I think you are looking at something more like this www.kermatdi.com/i-852-polar-fis-advanced-dashboard-display.html#!year%3D2012%7C%7Cmake%3DVOLKSWAGEN
I liked up Kerma because they support the CrewMembers with an awesome discount.
Freaking awesome didn't see b6 in the listings of vw's & he rents tablet with Vag-Com installed on it with a cable Oh he'll yea!
Really cool. Big market out there for fixes like that.
There is such an amazing future in this type of vehicle modification
HumbleMechanic. I bet he just needed some basic skills, no degree needed and identify an area of need. I think his business model is brilliant. Great type of business you can start from home. By the way, love the fact you reply, doesn't seem to matter if my comment is 200 in you still reply. Most you tubers don't bother. Might be hard with a couple thousand comments, but for now makes us feel a little special to get a reply. Thanks mate.
Matt’s a great dude and razor sharp. I love the side biz he is running.
Thanks for the kind words about comments. It’s hard sometimes but I try to reply to everyone. lol. :)
This type of stuff is fairly big over in Europe but when I looked into even just an OEM FIS cluster for my own MKIV 6 years ago ago, no one in the states did any legit cluster modding and I didn't want to pay $$$ to send stuff to a random guy in Germany or the UK and would rather learn how to do it. So what started as just a "I don't want to pay someone to do what I want" turned into doing a few clusters here and there for friends and now is a "full time" side job in the evening and weekends (electrical engineer by day, cluster modder by night). Never thought just a single cluster project would spiral into this or that so many people would even be interested in having their clusters done. The early customers were a huge help. Not a trivial thing to trust some random person at the time with a key item to the car.
that is freaking dope.
Totally awesome mod
SUPER COOL!!
THATS AMAZING. all the little information the mod provides is critical, by the way the mod looks badass! how much would it cost to get the same one you have on a vw passat? let me know im very interested
It would retail for around $500
Wow, now thats cool. Can u show all the options u added? I want it like yours.
The only change I did was the colorMFA The rest is stock R32 cluster
MIKE G 77
Clean!!!
so cool! Could you do a Polar FIS install for the mk5? (or equivalent screen upgrade of your choosing), would look so good
I need to. I have one of the units. Planned to install it in the Tiguan but never got around to it.
Looking to get this for my MK4 R32. Really like your setup. Do you happen to remember what options you chose?
AWESOME
Charles,
I took out my cluster today to send off to Matt, but unfortunately I managed to break both(!) of the 32 pin connector locks. The tab that locks the purple lock into place on the blue connector broke and and the purple locking tab broke on the green connector. Is there a fix for this without having to rewire those connectors?
I didn’t know this could be done. My b5.5 Passat display has this fading issue. Looks amazing. Wonder can something like this be done in UK.
Excellent
I’m sure Matt can do it
Did you ever get around the changing the B5? How easy was it to remove that cluster? Looking to do this to my B5.5 immediately!
For cars without the MFD: do you know if this can be added to the existing cluster? And, do you just need the correct stalk or is there wiring as well (obviously ambient air temp, but beyond that)?
Hey i have a question. So my b5.5 passat is giving me a issue of getting into gear. It goes in but grinds out and sometimes pops out. I cant get into second and sometimes i have a issue of getting into reverse like if its locked out but then i can get in after moving the shifter in neutral a couple times. I also notice my right side motor mount is snapped as well. So im wondering if its cause of that or idk. Im at the point that im about to buy a parts car and take the trans just incase of me ruin my syncros due to me driving with this problem. Just want to see what you think it could be
Shut up and take my money!!
Be sure to let Matt know you saw this video :)
I NEED this mod!!
this. is. AWESOME !!!!!!
What kind of oil level sender do you recommend with this mod?
Super cool...
This is the best mood/repair video ever. Will this work with the mk 4 Jetta with a vr6? I really would like to do this on my car.
It depends on the year, but there should be an option for all MK4s. So worth the $
HumbleMechanic this has been a major pain point for years on this car. Thank you again for the info. This is going to be for my 02 Jetta vr6. This is so cool.
NICE! I need to get my Passat done next.
I think so long as you've got the IMMO3 clocks on your VW it should work fine if you've got the IMMO2's I don't think you can run a FIS cluster it's always been big talk about these on Golf owner club forums in the UK
All 00+ MK4's. Immo 2 or 3 doesn't matter.
Your dude sends signature gummy bears. But ecs will send you free FUN DIP
Insert joke about ECS shipping things here.... HAHAHA ;)
Charles, do you know if it is possible to just repair the connections on the oem display? I just want to fix the fading, dont need a whole new display.
Ty
I’ve heard of guys repairing the solder. I don’t know the long term hold up on it. You can buy a new screen and install it. Or if you want the direct replacement it’s only $150
I'd like to install this along with the RCD330+ in my Mk4 R32, would these 2 work together?
It would be so awesome if it showed A/f ratios and psi for turbo cars
question about clusters! My C5 A6 had its cluster replaced at the dealer and they put in a higher spec one with the screen. Since the car originally had no screen there i dont have buttons to switch between range, avg consumption, time, etc. It only shows range but i'd like to have all the functions. What do? Is it possible to wire in the lever with buttons?
Yes, swap the wiper stalk and add 4 wires to wiper stalk and run 1 to ground and 3 to gray cluster plug (cavities 17, 18, 19). I believe there is a writeup on the Audi forums
where is the grey cluster plug located?
Brother, this is awesome. Out 2000 Audi TT is on the 2nd display and she has missing and fading areas. Would your guy also fix old 2000 TT displays?
Yes. Stock TT replacement is $175 out the door. ColorMFA is $500
Can you send us a link on where you had this done please as this is brilliant
Great video, I was wondering if you could make a video about vw's electronic differential lock, like what is it, how it works when it works, does it work while ASR is disabled...
Sounds like a great topic.
HumbleMechanic thanks I'm interested in it because I've had a mk4 for the past 10 years and the EDL is a mystery to me, thanks for responding
NICE! Mine's been faded for years. For the Mk4 R32, does it require the OEM Monsoon HU?
To get the display on the top I’d imagine so. Or at least a CAN radio
Yes if you want radio data to be shown, you need to have an OEM radio that supports CANBus. Monsoon vs none doesn't matter. So 99.5-01.5 won't show anything since they are 3LB cluster communication. 02+ quadlock radios will.
that is pretty cool
Can i change welcome screen logo on golf 6 using vcds? Thanks in advance
My Fiat Grande Punto's MFD has also conked off..its an LCD Unit it lights up but doesn't show anything any solution?
Charles do you know if they repair Eurovan clusters?
I sent them an email but no reply. Great video.
Charles, you say that the usb port changes the information on the cluster. Is there a separate usb device for changing the info on the cluster and/or does the steering stalk still work to change menus, etc... on the cluster?
USB is for firmware updates and changes. Menus on the cluster are changed with the stalk
@@HumbleMechanic Thanks for the quick reply. I entirely swapped an R32 into a five-door Golf. We kept the body electrical harness from the 2000 Golf GLS and I modified the wiring such that all the ABS sensors and AWD work as designed, as well as everything else, but the steering stalk does not change the menus on the the cluster, so I guess I need to figure that out prior to my getting this awesome mod.
Do you have any problems with the immobilizer when you reinstall the cluster?
No it should install just fine
Thank you for this. I have a 2000 VW Beetle and i want to retrofit a similer cluster. Is it doable?
I don't think the Beetle can do it.
I know this is an old video, but I would like to know if it works on a 12v VR6 MK IV as well or is it just for the R32?
Depends on the car trim level. HE can add it to any of them. but some you need to add the stalk to make it work.
Hay bud I need some help and I'm pretty confused and think I'm pretty much past my abilities of figuring it out. It's an 03 golf 1.8t gti mk4. Code awp. And my issue is no warning indicators light up at all on my instrument cluster, and cause the little battery light dont come on. I have a charging issue also. It's a new alternator, and battery is good(had tested). has 12.6v on b+ also on D1(excite wire). Terminal 4 and 7 on obd plug show little under 9v. Car runs, drives, sounds fantastic as always but no charging so eventually battery dies, and no dash warning indicators, dash lights like guages work fine, dimmer works headlights all good. Just the warning indicators are gone like never light up when You put it in run position or start it. Fuses over checked all good, even replaced instrument cluster ones just in case. Manual says that the battery light has to be on.. but doesnt say where to look or what to do to fix it..? Can you help me??.
Hello, question where do you buy your instrument cluster, my r32 is manual transmission fit in my ?
Link is in the description of the video.
Thanks, man 🙋🏻♂️have good weekend 👍🏻
Those gummy bears are the best