EU4 1.35 Florence Guide - THIS Is The NEW WAY To PLAY TALL
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2023
- In this video titled EU4 1.35 Florence Guide - THIS Is The NEW WAY To PLAY TALL I make an EU4 Guide for Florence for Europa Universalis 4 1.35 Domination. With EU4 1.35 Domination releasing the meta and the starting moves for many nations on the map has changed, so of course new and up to date guides are needed. This EU4 Florence starting moves guide or EU4 Florence starting moves tutorial will ensure that you get a great start for yourself playing as the nation of Florence. This guide covers the opening moves, diplomacy, estates, alliances, subjects, missions, national ideas, and more! Florence is one of the best nations for blobbing, having a massive army that is also extremely powerful, being extremely rich, dominating trade and more! After watching this EU4 Florence guide you will ensure a great start for yourself, and you will have an easy and fun campaign.
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Serbia
Idk what nation, but a guide where you play super wide. Maybe a horde like Oirat or something.
Ottomans from 1500-1600
Genoa through Mediterranean sea domination 🤩
@@indiradevi6217 If you need a guide for strongest nation in the game,something is seriously wrong with you.
I remember playing Florence years ago as one of my first ironman games and being incredibly proud that I attacked and defeated the ottomans in 1740. Did a replay of them a few months ago and reached the same amount of provinces in 1540. Always love to see these folks
I was just thinking about playing florence
Just played a Florence into Italy run. It's a real rush navigating all those initial alliances in the HRE and Italy to take over the peninsula. One of the most fun nations to play.
Italy is my favorite region at the start. Milan is my most played nation, and I’ve probably played it more times than my second- and third-most played nations, combined. They have easy access to pretty much every gov type except a theocracy. They’re also in an excellent position, with nice ideas and mission tree(at least by the standard before LotN).
I’ve only played Florence once but I remember it being extremely strong. I even unintentionally got the achievement for 1000 dev as a duchy(I stayed in the HRE for a while) with that playthrough. I actually tried to get it previously with Muscovy since they get extra gov cap from their reforms and wasn’t even able to. I flew through all of the gov reforms and then swapped to centralized bureaucracy and used all my excess admin points and reform progress to centralize every single state until they were like 1 gov cap. Money and manpower was never an issue past really early game(Italy region I feel like is one of the best for manpower) and I had good rulers the whole game.
@@Benrman italy is also my fav region and Milan probably my fav nation but I can't manage to run a campaign and form Italy on VERY HARD difficulty. Somehow few italian nations always stay in the HRE even after the shadow kingom event, giving me huge AE malus when I take their provinces, Spain always PU Naples and gets the South, France eats all the provencal region and Savoy...all this before I can get strong enough...but even then I cannot face Austria, France and Spain alone on very hard...at least one of them must be an ally...did you manage to form Italy on VERY HARD difficulty? Do you have any tips?
@@matteomarelli9757 I haven’t played on very hard. But a strategy I’ve always used in Italy on other difficulties is playing the majors against each other.
I usually try to hit Aragon once before the IW(which isn’t always possible) for the islands and/or Sicily, and then call France in to fight them after.
If you’re struggling with Naples falling under PU, you could ally/guarantee them. They’re probably the second strongest Italian nation at the start, so they’re not a bad ally to have anyways. They’re also the furthest away, so you have all the Italian nations in between to expand into before Naples is blocking you. Also allying them can help you control their expansion. If you call them into your wars with the other Italian nations, you control their truces with the Italian nations. Use them to help you beat up Italy. You and and Naples together should be able to handle Castile. Remember, to win, Castile has to siege their capital. Which means they have to march through your forts, or naval land. If they naval land, intercept them. They’ll land piecemeal because they don’t have enough transports for their whole army. Even better if you’re able to intercept them while they’re landing. Wait until the unit landing is movement locked, and then move your army into the province. Naval landings take a much longer time when they’re into hostile territory, and they’re perfect for intercepting. You can break a movement locked landing by just starting to move the fleet it’s coming from, but the AI isn’t smart enough to do that most of the time and just keeps landing onto your army, giving them the massive penalty
Regarding Savoy, ally France and use them to attack Savoy(or a Savoyard ally). Even if you can’t take anything yourself, giving France a truce with them means they can’t attack them on their own and take their provinces. If France is hostile and can’t be turned friendly, sabotage them. Use Castile and Austria against them.
You don’t have to fight all 3 of them. You use two of them to fight the 3rd.
AE… is always an issue with nations staying in HRE. I’ve found that diplo ideas helps a lot of course. I just set a bunch of diplomats to improve with neighbors and it tends to do those closest and move outwards. I have a bunch of built up relations before hand so even if the AE gets a little high, they don’t become outraged due to having positive opinion. Diplo is usually my first idea group as Savoy or Milan. I always have an abundance of mana points in my Milan games. So I usually take an idea group based on what is going to help me now. And the biggest impediment I’ve had to my expansion in early Italy is AE, so I usually counter it with diplo to remove my largest obstacle. The faster you can grow early, the easier it will be to grow later.
@@Benrman yes, I agree, the problem with Italy is that you always need a piece of a major unfortunately... :-) sometimes France cuts deep and takes Nice, Cuneo, Savoy or Turin...Spain in 9/10 case PU Aragon and already has Sardinia and Sicily and claims on all the South. And don't get me started on the "Italian wars" event that will bring both France and Spain in the peninsula. If you are very lucky Austria will not rival Venice but will PU Trent and Mantua will stay in the empire. In most of cases Venice will be eaten out by Austria and/or Ottomans so...shitfire! Whatever little Italian state you'll choose will have to dance between Austria, France, Spain and Ottomans too if you're not careful and ok Very Hard, well... it's actually very hard!!!
@@Benrman trust me I've just run a very hard campaign with Venice, annexing Just Milan, Savoy, Mantua and Ferrara then I went all colonial... I've won. Colonies in Caribbean, North America, Suez, Panama, 22 merchants and thalassocracy. To me, it's easier than form Italy and win the game.
A section in the intro where you talk about if the nation received changes/ what the changes are in 1.35 would be nice and informative for people who have played these nations but aren't sure if its worth playing again
I like to pick Sortition for Florence, since the boost you get from it applies to all the random candidates... As well as the beloved relative, so you keep getting superpowered rulers. :')
i think you're right with the Italian republic reform term length is 12 years so sortition is usually better unless you're changing the first reform.
Great guide on Florence. So detailed and clear that now I have to immediately start a campaign !!!
Honestly, these videos, more than anything else, keep me playing EUIV.
A while ago I started a playing tall campaign with florence. My first war was in december 1444, since one of your neighbours usually dont have allies. I started with trade ideas since I had a surplus of diplomatic power due to the national focus. Then for the second idea I picked infrastucture ideas and switched the national focus to admin. After finishing both ideas, I was swimming in gold by 1500 and could develop 20 dev provinces for small amounts of power.
I do recommend this, because it is really fun to do.
@The Red Hawk keep up the great work! I really enjoy all your videos, especially the A to Z and releasables series! Thank you for the entertainment!
Also, for the excommunication cb, you get less AE for provinces with claims. You can also vassalize with 50% AE as well.
I just did the Prince of Egypt achievement yesterday, Florence was a pretty great nation to play tall as. I just dev'd like crazy waiting till tech 20 to form Egypt.
Just completed a Protestant Florence -> Italy run. So much fun.
Well, Florence -> Italy -> Roman Empire was definitely my top3 runs
Did you keep florence ideas or change to italys ideas?
@@jeregalpotthawela2539I think a roman empire run is best with italy’s ideas
Did a Florence run before 1.35 for the Prince of Egypt achievement. Was one of the most fun runs I ever did.
Instead of telling what to do next on the end your videos, i would like to see part 2s or even 3-4s. I really like your playstyle would definetly love watching the other parts!
I would go with the classic Inno/Espionage/Offensive opening with Florence. The ultimate tech leader opening.
I think we need a guide for genoa now. It simply must be very interesting to play as.
Hawk you had the perfect opportunity to label your video "The best way to play I-tall-y".
Yes! Red hawk for the win! Let's goooooooo!
A Saluzzo guide would seem interested! I've been kinda struggling with the sardinia-piedmont route.
Didn’t watch but I know it will be great
I played Florence yesterday and got bored around 1490 and just took half of what was left of northern Italy. Now I have a HRE and Castile coalition lol, but I’m allied to France, Austria, and Hungary
You did Naples, now Florence, next two should be Milan and Venice to complete the treaty of Lodi
I swear in my Florence run someone in the Tuscan area always allied a GP. I usually just restart if Siena gets a big one
An Aztec guide would be cool
This guy makes a Brandenburg and Florence guide every patch lmao.
You really wanted to take Siena in this run :)
tbh Florence is quite fun, remember playing co-op mp with them with my somewhat friend being austria, was fun before 1.35 broke the save
Florence is a close second favorite of mine in Italy after Milan. Great mission tree, tons of flavor, really nice national ideas, amazing location, unique play style with a unique government reform.
One of the best runs I've had in recent time was Florence -> Sardinia-Piedmont -> Italy -> Roman Empire. Tuscan ideas give you early game edge, SP missions give you a couple of very useful bonuses (administrative efficiency is the big one) and Italy has some of the best ideas in the game for conquering stuff (25% core creation cost and 50% improve relations is strong).
ambrosian republic is too good
Ngl one thing I like to do is once I complete the mission tree I culture flip and form Sardinia piedmont for more missions and claims.
Korea has entered the chat and would like a word with you on the best tall game play.
Im missing the part where very often either Siena or Lucca doesnt have an alliance by december 11th 1444. Thats your first war right away. Most commonly its Siena that can be taken easy. Lucca commonly allies Genoa, allowing you to call in Milan by promising land and giving Genoa to Milan and taking Lucca for yourself. You dont wanna screw Milan yet, because you can really use the help with Venice, which is your biggest roadblock on the campaign.
Ah, Florence and the Machine. One of my favorites. When you complete Innovative ideas you can play “The Dog Days are Over”. 😂
I just had 4 Florence starts in a row where Austria rivaled me at the start. 🙃
Edit: the number just keeps going up.
I feel your pain
I’m somewhat surprised you didn’t release Savoy so you could take back their many cores.
As Florence you could always conquer all of Naples, dev Neapolitan culture and switch to two sicilies then form Italy. That way you get more flavor
1. Best start scenario for me is Lucca allied with Genoa. Atk them and get Lucca, Genoa and Albenga in the war.
2. Don't get rid of Saluzo...They have a mountain fort and get less agressive exp if u keep them...also u have the diplo slots and u can easy vassalise them later
3, Get the manpower from the gov reform... yeah u have that in your national ideas but u need to complet 3 idea sets to get there :P
4. No point fighting Ferrara unless u atk them for the "show of strenght" thing. There is a lot of agressive exp and they are in the wrong trade node.
Once youre through with most tags, are you going to showcase some of the biggest mods? Europa/Expanded, Anbennar, Ante Bellum etc. ?
Florence the Death Machine
I love watching the video on 0.5 speed 😂 he sounds totally hammered
Would it not be worth restarting if Sienna ally Austria at the beginning of the game?
"You should royal marry Austria, you can do this right at the begining"
looks at own screen
Austria Rivaled me
shit.mp4
I didnt even know florence was strong enough to be rivaled by austria
@@dakota6050 I guess it is, if a player is on the country, that is.
florence is hard to start with but once rng is on your side its a breeze. (i had to restart 15 times to get the setup)
@TheRedHawk Nice guide but you can have only one 3lvl center of trade per trade note (unless they've changed it). For the purpose of playing tall I also think that for Florence it's better to go protestant as you have tax meta and aspect for dev cost
I have no Idea If they Changed it or If IT was Just never the Case. Atm you can have so much lvl 3 cot as you want the only one think is Just per state.
@@eragonshurtugal4239 It's actually a lv3 center of trade for every merchant you have. Tested it on a Two Sicilies run i did a week ago.
@@richmind2582 yes but if you make 1 in let's say in Rome and then the other in Napoli, doesn't 1st dissapear?
@@P.H.226 i've done a test about this right now and no, you don't loose your previous lvl3 centers of trade. In that run i taked about before i had 11x lv3 centers of trade and 12 merchants (some of them from trade companies). So i just disbanded a few of the trade companies to drop to 8 merchants. The 11 centers of trade kept the level 3, and the game forbids you to upgrade any other lv2 center of trade.
Please do mamluks guide, we need a guide bc of the new otto
I'd like to see a guide for one of the Indian or East Asian countries.
Thank you for all your videos. Really enjoy them. Interested in guides on: Denmark, India nations, Ming. Very few showcase Ming and how the mandate of heavens work in order to pass all reforms. Sad as they are interesting nation and very strong. England guide would also be nice with new Angevin possibility. Have a great day 😊
I've restarted like 10+ times and Milan rivaled me every time
How about a Korea or Jianzhou guide?
- And +25 percent national manpower, which is MASSIVE!
Ludi moment, lol
do a aragon guide pls
43 minutes of Redhawk being salty about not getting to pounce on Naples in the opening
I kinda want Florence to become the Grand Duchy of Tuscany, then Italy.
Played a colonial round woth tuskany, i got nealry all of north america and 70 percent of mexiko
hi! it is better to stay as a republic or evolve to a reign for playing tall?
In a republic at each re-election your previously chosen candidate gets +1 to all their monarch values. This allows you to generate very big amounts of all monarch points which are useful for developing. As a monarchy you get what you get and your monarch isn't getting better over time, while instead in a republic you can reasonably expect your head of state to have +2 to all their stats.
This is good but you can take infrastructure + plutocratic and get an income of 150 ducats by 1500 having only Tuscany Milan and Venice regions. Good economic = a lot of mercs and development = you are unstoppable in 1500
I was rivaled by both the pope and austria
Thoughts on using spare diplo points to bump mercantilism up instead of devving? Especially with Italy being an end node.
You can do that???
@@bronzedisease yes, in the trade tab
I mean why would you need provincial trade power modifier? You control the end nodes anyways, you don't need to compete for trade power:) if you're asking for trade companies in Alexandria etc. Then it's somewhat understandable. However, I would just develop my provinces in Italy so that I can earn more from them.
why is it better to do manpower dev in provinces with livestock and grain? i dont see any stacking bonuses for doing that.
later on you'll get access to soldier's household which has iirc double manpower bonus to food provinces such as livestock grain wine
i don't know, man. i always release all of papal vassals to diplo vassalize them myself, it weakens the pope enough so he stops rivaling you and becomes threatened for 0 ae.
what's the graphic mod u are using
austria rivaled me 2 times in a row the start super unlucky
My city
Every time I open eu4, the first thing I click on is the nation.
Italy is my fav region I can't manage to run a campaign and form Italy on VERY HARD difficulty. Somehow few italian nations always stay in the HRE even after the shadow kingom event, giving me huge AE malus when I take their provinces (they're ven more developed than in thisvideo), Spain always PU Naples and gets the South, France eats all the provencal region and Savoy...all this before I can get strong enough...but even then I cannot face Austria, France and Spain alone on VH difficulty...at least one of them must be an ally...did anybody manage to form Italy on VERY HARD difficulty?
Why is every small nation the new way to play tall?
Hawk in the begining you should pick the youngest admin advisor in my opinion
He’s not the pope though
FLORENCE THE GOATTTTTTTT
10 min outro, damn
as Florence form Arabia so you can be called Florence of Arabia :P
Florence is central italy
i dont see why we need a guide for such easy nations as florence
And it's good for your teeth!
Oh wait that's Fluoride
Just for people want to do the achievement. The easiest way is just to turn into Jerusalem then Latin empire and then Egypt which requires tech 20.
Move you capital to Jerusalem and click the decision and you will be Jerusalem.
you don't really need clerical education as a republic
pff Geneva has 15%
When you talk in counterfactuals ("if you had fought Siena you would now spy on Naples...") you tend to repeat it excessively, like 6-7 times in the first 10 minutes, and it can be a little annoying to be honest. Only mentioning it once or twice is enough
Why do you put fals thumbnails ALL THE TIME!!!
ive never seen anyone repeating himself literally dozens of times over such a small length of time
Siena allied aragon and lucca allied austria in my game🥲