Oshkosh23 Fisk Arrival Mistake - Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
- I made a huge and nearly disastrous mistake flying the Fisk Arrival into Oshkosh. Watch this Analysis of my error so you don't make the same mistake.
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I was one of the people that reached out to Bob regarding his arrival video. We have been communicating frequently over the past few weeks because he wanted to understand as much as he could about what went wrong and the viewpoint from someone who flies frequently in that ultralight pattern. Once he realized he made a mistake, he not only wanted to share what he learned, but he wanted to take the time to get it right. We need more pilots like Bob who are willing to listen and learn and share with others to help make flying safer and more fun. Thanks for making this video! 👍👍
Thank you… see you at KOSH next year!
Owning a mistake is a professional action. Then taking the time to, not only understand your SA, but to share with others so we can ALL learn is a Hallmark of a true AVIATOR.
THANK YOU
Thank you very much!
Man!
Of all the Osh videos I’ve seen, this has GOT to be one of the most useful/enjoyable for me.
Also your other Osh videos taken as a trio, they’ve very informative.
Great to see your “owning” the situation. You’ve earned yourself a new sub brother. 👊
Thank you very much for that. So glad to hear that people enjoy the content, and especially that it is informative and often helpful. That’s the goal. Thanks very much for subscribing… really appreciated! Lots more to come.
“Live a life full of humility, gratitude, intellectual curiosity, and never stop learning. ...”
Thanks for posting.
Great words to live by... that's what I try to do. Thank you!
@@BlueSkyFlight I would credit the author but I don’t remember who it is.
Hey Captain Blue Sky,
Can I just say thanks, very honest and open debrief on your Oshkosh arrival. Kudos for being so forward and self deprecating - in the flying world we’re not always good at coming clean with our experiences.
It’s not the errors that make us good or bad pilots, it’s how we deal with them that counts. The ability for us all to learn and adapt from others’ events is what’s important here, and so I thank you for your candid review.
This is the essence of an open safety culture that is so needed in aviation - that way we all learn.
Continuing to subscribe, love your work. ✈️
I couldn’t say it better. I’m so glad this is resonating so well. That’s exactly the reaction I’m looking for. Like you said. It’s always important to give ourselves an honest critique after a flight. We do it in the airline world after every flight… what went well, what didn’t, and what we could do better next time. Never to proud to admit our mistakes. Thank you so much for the feedback
wow. how lucky. thanks for sharing . this could video save lives. thank you
That is my hope. Thank you for watching!
Thnx for the teachable moment. Just goes to show that even with significant preparation, we can still make mistakes. What's important is to learn from them and even better to share the experience, as you have done, so others can learn from it also. Kudos.
Couldn’t agree more. Thank you for that. Glad you liked the video.
It was good that you acknowledged the whoops moment, rather than either brushing it under the rug or placing blame elsewhere, still looks very hectic and I watched that particular video several times now, thankyou for that look into everything, regards from the UK
Thank you!
We’ll done. It’s not easy to admit something like that, especially in such a public forum. But the information is valuable and your attitude about the controllers and the importance of each of us being mindful of our responsibility to fly safely is commendable. I’ve enjoyed the videos. Please keep sharing.
Thank you, and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review and nice job of doing a deconstruction Video on how things can go wrong without noticing. it's refreshing to see someone honest and open and not trying to pass the buck and say it was all the other guys fault.
I think we can all learn from this and other videos about the potential issues that can arise when turning a couple of miles of airspace into NYC Manhattan streets for a bunch of country road pilots.
Blue Skies and Tail winds, my friend.
Thank you - and thanks for all of your feedback on this!
Great video! Definitely explains why the go around was necessary with cutting the corner on the Cessna. Totally unofficial, but generally the tower won’t reach out until an aircraft is over or past the interstate.
A few people have mentioned that too. It’s great to have your perspective on this. Yeah I was surprised by the call as it felt a little early. I should have known. If you get a minute, please shoot me an email to blueskyflight@outlook.com.
I just gotta say - flying in to Oshkosh just looks like a clusterf*ck to me as a non pilot -
Been to the eaa show and it is the greatest ever ! Rented a van …. Big , big time fun !
Good videos - Both . Thanks. PS : Nice aircraft ! Cool flight -
Flying in is half the fun. Thanks for watching
Listening to the audio, I think the guy behind you was supposed to go up the railroad tracks and he made the turn with you. He pretty much pinched you in all the way to the runway
Yeah. I think by the time the controller made that call he had already started the turn.
I have flown both approaches several times, but honestly never when it’s that busy. Yes, I saw the mistake immediately in your first video, but it that was the second mistake. Get a buddy to read along the way! I’m sure you read the notam 5 times, but you would never recall that part.
Thank you for the feedback.. Definitely learned a lot more from the mistake than if it had all gone perfectly. I am now much more aware of the other arrival patterns, and a much greater appreciation for the threats.
Love your videos!
Thank you very much! So nice to hear that. Please share. :)
Great video. I think that sometimes the good practice of staying ahead of things by anticipation can be a double edge sword because of expectation bias. In this case caused by atc’s misidentification of the Cherokee ahead of you as a Bonanza , so you were expecting the next time you heard the word Cherokee it would be you. Just curious, did they dig you for cutting into the no fly zone.
Exactly, that is a threat. No, in fact I wouldn't have realized the mistake if a few people on youtube had not pointed it out to me. I'm very glad that they did.
Been watching Atsb and and a day at Fisk seeing the cheaters, thanks for being honest and safe.
Always good to share your mistakes. It how we learn. Much of our checklists and procedures are “written in the blood” of past mistakes.
The only other blink-and-you-miss-it clue that the "Cherokee" being spoken to _was not you_ was the fact that there was a verbal answer to that call on freq that _was not you._ But it's a forgivable miss, especially with the confirmation bias error you've already explained.
Totally missed that… probably running my mouth. I’ll go back and look for that. Thanks for pointing that out.
how about huge letters taped along the belly of our aircraft showing our type designator so FISK gets it correct from the start? 🙃
Lol
This whole procedure seems to be an organised pit of fail, waiting for something very serious to happen. But that's probably just my outside perspective.
I completely understand how it can look that way. But it is actually very well planned out and orchestrated with tons of volunteers and controllers and staff. The procedure is very well defined and works incredibly well. The number of errors is very small in comparison to the incredible volume of traffic. Of course the stakes are also incredibly high. Human error is always a threat, but that is always the case in aviation in general. I point out my error here to help is from happening again to anyone else. That's how we continue to manage the threats. But of course its never going to be zero. Thank you very much for taking the time to comment - and thanks very much for watching.
@@BlueSkyFlight tanks for the reply, and I think ypu do an amazingly good thing by publishing this video.
Thank you!
You manned up and acknowledge your mistake and shared with the rest of us…..and unlike a democrat…..you took responsibility and that speaks volumes….Thanks see you next year at Oshkosh…..oh your remodel of your bird was awesome, followed all your videos.
Thank you for that - Glad you enjoyed the renovation videos too - Thanks so much for watching!