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I am exactly 8 flight hours into getting my PPL. When I left the classroom and made my first flight with my CFI, I did very well on the take off, cruise and turning, holds, etc. Then I lined up for my landing. Folks, the first landing in your career will never be forgotten. I was in a 1978 Cessna 172 with steam gauges. I botched the approach and had to go around. But the second approach I stayed right on the line. Then I made what is known as a "porpoise landing" I touched down 4 times before I kept rubber on the pavement. My CFI glanced up at me and said "you don't get to put 4 landings in your logbook, so let's just keep it down to one, okay?" lol I thing every new pilot has made a multiple TD landing. But you're 100% correct, airspeed is the most important variable you must control. Once you have airspeed under control, everything else just seems to fit into place.
@@brianmacpherson4913 LOL no doubt. Aviation is an expensive hobby. I was paying $180/hour to rent the plane. I was fortunate to have had most of the funds available for the majority of the flight training but I went thru it all. I was at zero balance when I got my PPL
I struggled with landings until my instructor taught me pretty much the way you describe. He had me repeatedly fly all the down the runway at a height of about six feet. Once I was able to demonstrate that to him he had me set up at six feet, cut the power, and try to hold the plane at six feet. Of course, as you say, the plane slowly sinks and kisses the ground. What a sensation!
Just did my first landing, touched down pretty hard because I didn't add enough back pressure, you're totally right about trying to keep the plane up in the air as long as you can so you just descend very smoothly onto the runway, hopefully next time is a lot better
This was a nice video, but a couple of points if you don’t mind. First, it is critical that students understand that they must re-trim every time they change power or flap settings. It is almost impossible to maintain a stable approach if the airplane is out of trim. Also, using a road for a landing reference is fine…but I would never teach a student that it is okay to stall an airplane that low to the ground.
I used to fly in a single engine Katana (DA20). I miss those days. When I was learning to fly, my favorite part was just going around the pattern and practice landing. Anyone can takeoff. Each landing is different.
"Anyone can take off". I slightly disagree. In small planes, take off can be just as challenging in slightly higher than normal cross winds. I have experienced this several times. Once, admittedly when I was still in training, my plane instantly veered off to the left at a dangerous angle immediately on take off when there was a gust of wind.
@@rameshb20 During one of my takeoffs while very close to takeoff Vr, a gust of wind hit and I found myself off the runway on the grass. Because of the short field and my speed, it became my first rough field takeoff. The cross wind specified for the Katana is only 20 knots. A good lesson about weather and flight safety.
Excellent advice! On approach it's airspeed, airspeed, airspeed, and when the pavement gets close, slowly ease back on the yoke all the way to your belly so that the mains touch down with almost no lift remaining. The nose will settle and the airplane becomes a truck, with no bounce being possible. If you get queasy with how the airplane flys at very low airspeed then go out and practice slow flight. Get good at that and you'll automatically be good at controlling the landing, though you will still need to develop your eye for height above the runway. Also, there is no perfect landing. At every point in the pattern you will tweak something-- airspeed, altitude, distance from the runway, something. Nothing is perfect. Fix it.
Just had my first solid landing yesterday, may instructor was clapping, I was so happy!! Pitching back so far is a weird sensation, but it totally makes sense to bleed off airspeed. I had a number of porpoise landings, and a whole bunch of flat landings prior to yesterday. I’m sure the guys in the tower have been entertained.
I had a pilot who told me it was always pitch, power, and trim...get those right and everything else is gravy...he also said it was better to land a bit too firmly instead of not firm enough...he was a United 737 pilot furloughed at the time, I was teaching him 18 wheeling...while we were out on the road Alaska air lines called him, and he naturally jumped...people born to flying will always heed the call, I happy to be a rare passenger glad the folks steering love what they are doing...
Thank you. I maybe watched this video many months, if not years after it was published. Both the content and the presentation were exemplary, and most informative. I have finally been taught how to land by a very informed “pilot”. Once again thanks.
Full stall landings are fine in still air. If you have a 25kt crosswind, it’s exceptionally dangerous. Fly it in. Harder on tires, but you maintain control. In my 337, I nearly idle the front engine, while leading with rear power. The twin tails and elevator actually vector the thrust.
I love the liberal use of the words back pressure and the references to trim. 👍👍😎 And especially the encouragement to keep your eyes moving and not fixate. Good job. Youre great👍 CP 55 yrs.
When I first took flying lessons, I met Bill Evelyn at Lincoln Airport in CA . He was the eye in the sky traffic reporter for a local radio station.. Commander Bill told me to relax. The most dangerous thing about flying is the drive to the airport. Awesome. I never forgot that. Thanks Commander Bill .
I would like to add that the threshold of the runway be kept about the center line of the windshield upon approach. There will a time when that changes but you are lined up, close to touchdown and ready to roll. This video shows this. Some say there is nothing finer then sitting in a recliner. But landing a plane is really a lot of fun. Never missed and never had to go around. Spins are exciting but the best part of the flight is landing. Helicopter. Even better. Love the cyclic control.
This is the best landing video for anyone who wants to pilot. If you can't learn from this video, then maybe you shouldn't fly. Instructor has great knowledge. superA+
My learning was il2 Sturmovik with ww2 prop planes. Those can take the punishment. I could get super fast, zigg zagg a bit to slow dawn fast push the plane down, pull up a bit not to crash land and then stall at few centimentres away from the runaway.
Thank you for this tutorial! I am as VANILLA as it gets! 😅. Most flying I've ever done was me being a passenger and flying a drone. Sim game's have really caught my attention and started with ATS and FS22. But those two weren't challenging, so i downloaded Out Of Ore, that one is fun but boring in career mode. THEN came this game onto my yt feed. Very happy to have spent $70 on this game. Though I'll probably never grasp the proper verbiage, I'm definitely trying. With that said, I tip my hat to you real life pilot's! I've really been having trouble with my landings. They are pretty rough. Im either flying well below 65 knots or way to high and me focusing on the monitor. Going to practice in free flight mode and practice with touch n go. Million thanks and subbing!
Well, that was fun. I learned to fly in the mid-1970s in Cessna 150s at New Orleans' Lakefront Airport (no airliners), and then I flew around south Louisiana and Mississippi for about a year for fun, mostly in 172s but also in the occasional tail-dragger and low-wing Piper. I only made two trips out of that area, one to Laredo, Texas, to visit Mexico and another to Albany, Georgia, to visit family. I was in a flying club, but it got too pricey for me, so I stopped. I've forgotten how to do it almost entirely. What I notice most on this video is the electronics which did not exist in 172s in the early 1970s. Time flies on.
Try using your gps ETA for center field arrival. Take your altitude above air field. Use quick mental calculation altitude divided by 500 ft/min decent rate. Discover at how many minutes out. reduced power for a 500ft/min decent. Keep the airspeed required for the cargo-passengers on board. But usually 80mph is good. Add about one minute to your calculated decent initiation, since you're not landing center field, right?
Ah, happy memories! 😁 I got my PPL in a 172 in East Africa when my dad was with the Flying Doctor Service in Kenya in the late 1970s. I'm back in England, now, and my licence lapsed ages ago (I couldn't afford to put in the hours), but I'll never forget sitting alongside the (crazy!) expat Brit pilots demonstrating what genuine bush flying was all about; and I remember on my second solo landing having to go around because about a dozen zebras were grazing on the airstrip... 🦓 👀
Haven't flown in 8 years, can't wait to go back and get current. You describe things so well. I actually was never tought detailed enough to watch the runway markings and then shift to the end of the runway.
I transitioned from a Tomahawk and Archer to the 172. Loved the 172. It made me pay attention to the air speed over the numbers. If not, she’ll float all the way down the runway.
Sometimes on a landing approach the variables will change. Off of centerline or you balloon the aircraft after flaring too hard. Remember you can always go around and try again.
Not always! Coming in with a little extra speed and sticking the landing is WAY more important than eating up all your runway trying to make it smooth as glass. If you need a go around and are too close to the edge of the field and gotta climb to avoid terrain/obstacles, you're cooked. Learn to stick a bumpy landing you don't like, and learn to go around when everything looks beautiful...there are times when tower might have a last minute call off, or you might forget to lower the landing gear, or unauthorized runway clearance like Harrison Ford ...
I’m alone in a airplane and my CFY just passed out. This video helped a lot! I have a bit of confidence now! A lot of people are yelling over the radio but they probably are yelling at the helicopter below me. We will see how this goes! 😜
@@terrydawkins9936 I had to rewatch the video to notice that I did indeed miss that. That being said I assumed that when we he mentioned adjusting pitch that I’d be doing so with trim.
172 is great for training, 182 and 182 RG are the dope. Performance, air speed etc. the best. I've had to hand crank a 182 before little overwhelming the first time.
My instructor told me that all take-offs are voluntary but landings are not. The perfect landing is a stall half an inch of the ground as you cross the runway threshold. This tutor explaines it well. I suggest that all students should try flying a glider, there a go-around is not an option. You soon perfect landing tecnique.
One thing I learned from auto-racing is to look at where you're headed, not where you are - meaning, don't look right in front of you, but look into the distance at your real target. You look at the end of the runway and let your peripheral vision take care of the close-in mental data input. Let that computer between your ears work for you.
I have crashed so many 172s and 182s trying to get the "perfect" landing that I'm now an expert in aircraft accident reports. I know so many shortcuts through those long and tedious paperwork that I can now do them in 15 minutes even in a fatality (not my own, duh!). I think they make the reports so tedious so that if you fill one out it may be a deterrent to flying and you give up. One time I landed the plane upside down to see if I could and it caught on fire.
sounds like a good way to have a low altitude stall. good exercise at 3500 feet alright- above ground level, not sea level, unless the aitport is close to sea level!
Would’ve looked slicker on the first approach if you’d been on centreline on finals rather than just late at the end of the approach. Also try and maintain centreline after landing. Good luck!
1:38 Umm, is it a good idea to tell student pilots to intentionally stall and recover at 500ft AGL? Especially if they try that in a real plane, and not flight Sim. My minimum is 2.5k feet AGL for intentionally attempting stalls. Especially if they happen to have some rudder input before stall, maybe trying to correct for crosswind, that could progress into a bit of a spin, requiring altitude for recovery
@@rylancarter6289 the video thumbnail and title aren’t saying anything about simulator, so that’s why I worry a pilot learning and struggling with their real landings might see this. Especially those that are allowed to fly solo, but still want to improve their landing smoothness
Agreed. I also noted the comment at 0.51 about 10 degree flap extension & speed not really being all that important. Well I'd argue it is and that goes for in both directions faster and slower.
Hello! This video of yours is very interesting, I've been training these lessons of yours, but it's difficult to get a good calibration, X-Plane11 flight, Cessna 172, with an X52 Pro, would you have any tips for a good Joystick calibration? Thanks!
I have crashed so many 172s and 182s trying to get the "perfect" landing that I'm now an expert in aircraft accident reports. I know so many shortcuts through those long and tedious paperwork that I can now do them in 15 minutes even in a fatality (not my own, duh!). I think they make the reports so tedious so that if you fill one out it may be a deterrent to flying and you give up. One time I landed the plane upside down to see if I could and it caught on fire.
What airspeed is recommended for the base too final turn. (in a 172) I always had trouble with landing when I moved to a cherokee 6 until I got the airspeed at exactly 70kns over the numbers.
Little tip when instructor says “aim for the number” does not mean you gonna land on the number. You can use much runway as possible for the smooth landing if you feel like you got too much speed, number is just good aiming point to get ground effect. All my PPL I thought instructor was made me land on the number because he didn’t clarify that.
Don’t write words you speak. as in gonna, wanna. People using slang expressions never think they’re making it harder for someone who doesn’t have English as a first language to read. Gonna, gotta, wanna, outta, and kinda all represent words as they are pronounced in informal, spoken English. They should not be used in formal writing.
My instructor said I was ready for my first attempted landing tomorrow and I’m lucky enough to capture it on my go pro. I’m both excited and a little nervous, not because I think anything bad is going to happen I just really want it to go well. It would be really nice to be able to say I buttered my first landing
I'm not a pilot, but I was wondering: How do you know if you're on the right glide slope or not? Also, how easy or difficult is it to make corrections if you're coming in too steep or too shallow?
Right glideslope, in more detail the vasi lights on beginning left side of that runway...2 rows of lights, (back row & front row) if both rows are red = you're too low Both rows white= too high.... Back row WHITE front row RED. = Correct Glideslope. If coming in too steep use LESS power, throttle back, Coming in too shallow use MORE power, Airspeed is key, DO NOT let airspeed get less than 60 knots in Cessna 172. and when trying all that at first. VERY DIFFICULT, especially when there are slight updrafts and downdrafts of wind on final approach...even small crosswinds.....It took me maybe 30 or 40 tries, maybe more, before I could make a landing. The more you practice, the easier it gets....After a while, you get a FEEL for it. Become "one with your bird."
A low altitude stall is not dangerous if you stay on top of it by propping up the falling wing by applying rudder. If you just sit there, then yes, it is dangerous.
@@peteinwisconsin2496 The problem is, there's no room for error. The wrong rudder input wouldn't be good. Neither would a panic deepening of the stall by pulling up. No room to recover in either case.
Bobbysands wrote: > The problem is, there's no room for error. < Yes, it helps a lot knowing what you're doing. I remember it like it was yesterday. I was out with an instructor, getting my biennial flight review. He said Let's do an approach to landing stall. I set the Skyhawk up to stall, eased the yoke back to the stop and soon felt the airplane drop through. As soon as the left wing dropped I pounced on the right rudder pedal and the wing leveled and returned briefly to flight. With the yoke all the way back, the plane stalled and again I pounced on the rudder. After a few cycles of watching me have a gay old time dancing on the rudder pedals, the instructor said: "Approach to landing stall." Oh, right. Rudder to level the wing while easing the yoke forward, add power and fly away. BTW three stall/ return to flight cycles lost maybe 500 feet. Bobbysands is right that there is no room for error when you don't know what you're doing. 10,000 feet AGL might not be enough for some. It takes several seconds come down from 500 feet AGL, even in a stall/spin, so you have time to do something but you gotta know what you're doing. If you don't instinctively know what to do, then I suggest more time practicing slow flight and stalls or rent a 152 and an instructor to perform some spins. Sitting in the left seat does not entitle you to "ride" the airplane. You are the final authority for safe operation of the aircraft so know what you're doing.
I ended up landing my planes just about this way. I hold it just off the runway, continuing to pull the nose up to keep it there. I feel like I’m imitating a bird as I reach forward with my gear to set it down. I think I’m only like a foot above the runway as I glide off the speed to touchdown. Be the bird😉.
I like to hear the stall warning horn as I touch down. I want no lift left in the wings. And I also make maybe a quarter of my landings without flaps. That way when one day I find I have no choice, it won't be something new and scary.
Nic video, man. One of the better flying, or in this case landing tutorials I've vern seen on YT. About the only thing I'd add, based on my fifteen years of flying and nearly thirty years of flight simming, is to understand how the landing characteristics of a light plane like the C-172 (approach weight and indicated speed, power, propellor pitch and mixture settings, flap setting) changes the exact approach speed you need to attain and control for the load and flap setting and power setting chosen. Above all, airspeed awareness and control around all three axes is paramount on approach and landing. By the way, landing your way is the easiest way to land a plane. Try doing it at night in limited visibility in a strong and gusty crosswind that is at or very near the aircraft's demonstated crosswind component onto a slippery or snow covered runway. Few things get your attention in flying more starkly than having either the rudder or the ailerons fully deflected in order to mainain control of the airplane right down to douchdown and beyond. The flight isn't over until the plane is shut down, the plane locked, the aircaft tied down or hangared and the paperwork and log entry completed. If anyone want to go anywhere in MS Flight Simulator 2020, anything from from short hops to treks half the way around the earth in transport category aircraft, they'll have to learn how to navigate. Naviating is flying specific tracks above the grout acertain altitudes and speeds depending on which category of airspace one is flying within. This includes radio navigation, using GPS to "go direct" and the most basic form of navigation: ded reckoning, aka flying from A to B using a map, compass and stopwatch. The way the aviation pioneers learne how to do in the old days, before moing maps and stopwatches changed to flat panel multi-feature displays and synthetic vision. Landings are are full stall sin ground effect, with the timing of the flare employed to arrest the aircraft's descent at two to four feet above the runway. Then holding tha altitude and attidue as rhe aircraft sinds to the runway, nose up. landings are sometimes the most challengng aspedct of flying. But they are but one part of what it takes, in the real world to earn the title "private pilot" or highe ratings on your license.
You and the aircraft become one fly the aircraft to the runway. Don't fixate on the Earth's speed just Glimpse at it and you are correct keep that Runway inside that your peripheral vision take you on down to the runway.
During WW II my father wanted to become a pilot. He was an excellent flyer except for one thing - he couldn't land the plane. He had a problem with depth perception that he didn't tell the army about. The army even brought in a specialist to try to teach him but he couldn't. So he had to give up flying.
30 years ago I was a passenger in the copilot seat on a 172 landing near Marianna FLA . At 50 yards short of the runway edge the stall alarm goes off and we touchdown on the grass and roll onto the tarmac. The pilot noticed I had a panicked look on my face he said “ I guess I should have told you we were going to land short I did that to save wear on the tires”
@K1OIK PPL is a very well-known abbreviation in aviation for a private pilot license. You can say PPL to basically anyone involved in aviation and they will know exactly what you mean, probably because they've got their PPL, their CFI, CFII, IR, CPL, and so forth. Theirs lots of different licenses and ratings that get abbreviated. Almost everything in aviation is abbreviated honestly.
All I can say is WOW,WOW,WOW! Doing stalls at 1000 ft. AGL? Adding full power and nose up when initiating a go around? No wonder Dan Gryder is having such a struggle to stop pilots from fatal stall spins!!!!!
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I am exactly 8 flight hours into getting my PPL. When I left the classroom and made my first flight with my CFI, I did very well on the take off, cruise and turning, holds, etc. Then I lined up for my landing. Folks, the first landing in your career will never be forgotten. I was in a 1978 Cessna 172 with steam gauges. I botched the approach and had to go around. But the second approach I stayed right on the line. Then I made what is known as a "porpoise landing" I touched down 4 times before I kept rubber on the pavement. My CFI glanced up at me and said "you don't get to put 4 landings in your logbook, so let's just keep it down to one, okay?" lol I thing every new pilot has made a multiple TD landing. But you're 100% correct, airspeed is the most important variable you must control. Once you have airspeed under control, everything else just seems to fit into place.
haha nice joke by the cfi
Loved that joke
Did the same thing! Except my CFI said, Bro this is not basketball… I’ve since been better but I’m only 16 hours in
keep working it, running out of money was always my problem
@@brianmacpherson4913 LOL no doubt. Aviation is an expensive hobby. I was paying $180/hour to rent the plane. I was fortunate to have had most of the funds available for the majority of the flight training but I went thru it all. I was at zero balance when I got my PPL
I struggled with landings until my instructor taught me pretty much the way you describe. He had me repeatedly fly all the down the runway at a height of about six feet. Once I was able to demonstrate that to him he had me set up at six feet, cut the power, and try to hold the plane at six feet. Of course, as you say, the plane slowly sinks and kisses the ground. What a sensation!
Just did my first landing, touched down pretty hard because I didn't add enough back pressure, you're totally right about trying to keep the plane up in the air as long as you can so you just descend very smoothly onto the runway, hopefully next time is a lot better
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This was a nice video, but a couple of points if you don’t mind. First, it is critical that students understand that they must re-trim every time they change power or flap settings. It is almost impossible to maintain a stable approach if the airplane is out of trim. Also, using a road for a landing reference is fine…but I would never teach a student that it is okay to stall an airplane that low to the ground.
Exactly! That freaked me out. Obviously he wasn't stalled just triggered the indicator but that still too close for comfort.
@@Barabus-yx2cn why would it freak you out, it's a sim. It's not real
lucky it is just a simulator !!
I used to fly in a single engine Katana (DA20). I miss those days. When I was learning to fly, my favorite part was just going around the pattern and practice landing. Anyone can takeoff. Each landing is different.
"Anyone can take off". I slightly disagree. In small planes, take off can be just as challenging in slightly higher than normal cross winds. I have experienced this several times. Once, admittedly when I was still in training, my plane instantly veered off to the left at a dangerous angle immediately on take off when there was a gust of wind.
@@rameshb20 During one of my takeoffs while very close to takeoff Vr, a gust of wind hit and I found myself off the runway on the grass. Because of the short field and my speed, it became my first rough field takeoff. The cross wind specified for the Katana is only 20 knots. A good lesson about weather and flight safety.
“Anyone can takeoff”
well anyone can land as well, however some only once. 😅
@@kvadratbitter Funny. And true.
Excellent advice! On approach it's airspeed, airspeed, airspeed, and when the pavement gets close, slowly ease back on the yoke all the way to your belly so that the mains touch down with almost no lift remaining. The nose will settle and the airplane becomes a truck, with no bounce being possible. If you get queasy with how the airplane flys at very low airspeed then go out and practice slow flight. Get good at that and you'll automatically be good at controlling the landing, though you will still need to develop your eye for height above the runway. Also, there is no perfect landing. At every point in the pattern you will tweak something-- airspeed, altitude, distance from the runway, something. Nothing is perfect. Fix it.
Just had my first solid landing yesterday, may instructor was clapping, I was so happy!! Pitching back so far is a weird sensation, but it totally makes sense to bleed off airspeed. I had a number of porpoise landings, and a whole bunch of flat landings prior to yesterday. I’m sure the guys in the tower have been entertained.
I had a pilot who told me it was always pitch, power, and trim...get those right and everything else is gravy...he also said it was better to land a bit too firmly instead of not firm enough...he was a United 737 pilot furloughed at the time, I was teaching him 18 wheeling...while we were out on the road Alaska air lines called him, and he naturally jumped...people born to flying will always heed the call, I happy to be a rare passenger glad the folks steering love what they are doing...
Thank you. I maybe watched this video many months, if not years after it was published. Both the content and the presentation were exemplary, and most informative. I have finally been taught how to land by a very informed “pilot”. Once again thanks.
Best online flying advice I have found. You are a natural.
Full stall landings are fine in still air. If you have a 25kt crosswind, it’s exceptionally dangerous. Fly it in. Harder on tires, but you maintain control. In my 337, I nearly idle the front engine, while leading with rear power. The twin tails and elevator actually vector the thrust.
I love the liberal use of the words back pressure and the references to trim. 👍👍😎
And especially the encouragement to keep your eyes moving and not fixate.
Good job. Youre great👍
CP 55 yrs.
This is excellent. I'm just below 200 hrs as a PPL and I'm gunna try this. I have a "lack of flare" issue when I fly Cessnas still.
When I first took flying lessons, I met Bill Evelyn at Lincoln Airport in CA . He was the eye in the sky traffic reporter for a local radio station.. Commander Bill told me to relax. The most dangerous thing about flying is the drive to the airport. Awesome. I never forgot that. Thanks Commander Bill .
I would like to add that the threshold of the runway be kept about the center line of the windshield upon approach. There will a time when that changes but you are lined up, close to touchdown and ready to roll. This video shows this.
Some say there is nothing finer then sitting in a recliner. But landing a plane is really a lot of fun. Never missed and never had to go around. Spins are exciting but the best part of the flight is landing. Helicopter. Even better. Love the cyclic control.
This is the best landing video for anyone who wants to pilot. If you can't learn from this video, then maybe you shouldn't fly. Instructor has great knowledge. superA+
My learning was il2 Sturmovik with ww2 prop planes. Those can take the punishment. I could get super fast, zigg zagg a bit to slow dawn fast push the plane down, pull up a bit not to crash land and then stall at few centimentres away from the runaway.
That was very well done. Great use of words and a pleasant voice.
As someone who is in a plane with no idea how to land it, this video came is clutch 👍 😄
Thank you for this tutorial! I am as VANILLA as it gets! 😅. Most flying I've ever done was me being a passenger and flying a drone. Sim game's have really caught my attention and started with ATS and FS22. But those two weren't challenging, so i downloaded Out Of Ore, that one is fun but boring in career mode. THEN came this game onto my yt feed.
Very happy to have spent $70 on this game. Though I'll probably never grasp the proper verbiage, I'm definitely trying. With that said, I tip my hat to you real life pilot's!
I've really been having trouble with my landings. They are pretty rough. Im either flying well below 65 knots or way to high and me focusing on the monitor. Going to practice in free flight mode and practice with touch n go. Million thanks and subbing!
Always good to review the basics. Thanks.
Well, that was fun. I learned to fly in the mid-1970s in Cessna 150s at New Orleans' Lakefront Airport (no airliners), and then I flew around south Louisiana and Mississippi for about a year for fun, mostly in 172s but also in the occasional tail-dragger and low-wing Piper. I only made two trips out of that area, one to Laredo, Texas, to visit Mexico and another to Albany, Georgia, to visit family. I was in a flying club, but it got too pricey for me, so I stopped. I've forgotten how to do it almost entirely. What I notice most on this video is the electronics which did not exist in 172s in the early 1970s. Time flies on.
Thanks!
Try using your gps ETA for center field arrival. Take your altitude above air field. Use quick mental calculation altitude divided by 500 ft/min decent rate. Discover at how many minutes out. reduced power for a 500ft/min decent. Keep the airspeed required for the cargo-passengers on board. But usually 80mph is good. Add about one minute to your calculated decent initiation, since you're not landing center field, right?
Helpful video! I'm currently barreling towards the ground in the cockpit of an airplane, and this is a total lifesaver!
I took 20hs of flying lessons almost 30 years ago. this is just like i remember it. great video!!
Ah, happy memories! 😁 I got my PPL in a 172 in East Africa when my dad was with the Flying Doctor Service in Kenya in the late 1970s.
I'm back in England, now, and my licence lapsed ages ago (I couldn't afford to put in the hours), but I'll never forget sitting alongside the (crazy!) expat Brit pilots demonstrating what genuine bush flying was all about; and I remember on my second solo landing having to go around because about a dozen zebras were grazing on the airstrip... 🦓 👀
That sounds wild, figuratively *and* literally 🦓 thanks for sharing!
The same thing happened to me in northern Minnesota, but they were Sasquatches...
@@smartysmarty1714happened to me in California, but they were just drugged up homeless people.
The quickest, but, most useful flying tutorial, I have, ever, seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 1st rule in landing is do not decend below the level of the runway.
wow you are a pretty fart smeller.
Cracked me up
Haven't flown in 8 years, can't wait to go back and get current. You describe things so well. I actually was never tought detailed enough to watch the runway markings and then shift to the end of the runway.
Thanks for this video. I love landing a plane. The whole dance of trading airspeed for altitude is such a cool part of flight.
After this RUclips Tutorial, I'm confident that I can land a plane in an emergency situation. Thank you.
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I transitioned from a Tomahawk and Archer to the 172. Loved the 172. It made me pay attention to the air speed over the numbers. If not, she’ll float all the way down the runway.
Excellent video. When learning to fly my instructor told me to land like a butterfly with sore feet. I'm afraid I didn't always reach that target
Flaring on landing has been the most difficult thing for me as a beginner, will try to apply these tips and see how it goes.
This is incredible stuff.
That’s exactly the explanation a beginner such as myself needs to get started and build that confidence.
I love the expression *_"kiss the ground."_* It should have been used in this video, which I enjoyed and thanks.
I believe you should add full power THEN retract flaps for a go around. if you retract flaps first the plane will lose altitude.
Looking forward to having a go later. Thanks for the vid, great instructions
Sometimes on a landing approach the variables will change. Off of centerline or you balloon the aircraft after flaring too hard. Remember you can always go around and try again.
Not always! Coming in with a little extra speed and sticking the landing is WAY more important than eating up all your runway trying to make it smooth as glass. If you need a go around and are too close to the edge of the field and gotta climb to avoid terrain/obstacles, you're cooked.
Learn to stick a bumpy landing you don't like, and learn to go around when everything looks beautiful...there are times when tower might have a last minute call off, or you might forget to lower the landing gear, or unauthorized runway clearance like Harrison Ford ...
@@joecee6862 that sounds like a hazardous attitude. Are you an instructor?
I always came in high enough to glide in if I had to. This paid off big time when I had an engine failure while landing at Big Bear California.
The Cessna controls always felt extremely heavy and primitive to me (compared to other planes I fly) until I started to use trim quite frequently.
By far the best video I've seen on landings and this includes Rod Machado video's
I’m alone in a airplane and my CFY just passed out. This video helped a lot! I have a bit of confidence now! A lot of people are yelling over the radio but they probably are yelling at the helicopter below me. We will see how this goes! 😜
How did it go?
It's funny till it's not. 😮 😅
A very thoughful video about landings with consice explanation ! Thank you !
Kudos. Absolutely the best RUclips video lesson on landing I’ve ever watched. I wish my flight instructor would have done this.
Did not mention trim You must have missed this
@@terrydawkins9936 I had to rewatch the video to notice that I did indeed miss that. That being said I assumed that when we he mentioned adjusting pitch that I’d be doing so with trim.
172 is great for training, 182 and 182 RG are the dope. Performance, air speed etc. the best. I've had to hand crank a 182 before little overwhelming the first time.
My instructor told me that all take-offs are voluntary but landings are not. The perfect landing is a stall half an inch of the ground as you cross the runway threshold. This tutor explaines it well. I suggest that all students should try flying a glider, there a go-around is not an option. You soon perfect landing tecnique.
Whoa.. best approach to land vid i've ever seen by far.. good job
As a flight instructor once said - "Don't worry, you will land."
One thing I learned from auto-racing is to look at where you're headed, not where you are - meaning, don't look right in front of you, but look into the distance at your real target. You look at the end of the runway and let your peripheral vision take care of the close-in mental data input. Let that computer between your ears work for you.
Riding a dirt bike has some similarities...look ahead and ride to the spot...
I made my first completely unassisted landing in a 172 at Statesville Regional Airport. That was in 1980 and I still remember it like it was today.
I have crashed so many 172s and 182s trying to get the "perfect" landing that I'm now an expert in aircraft accident reports. I know so many shortcuts through those long and tedious paperwork that I can now do them in 15 minutes even in a fatality (not my own, duh!). I think they make the reports so tedious so that if you fill one out it may be a deterrent to flying and you give up. One time I landed the plane upside down to see if I could and it caught on fire.
@@beckydoesit9331Isn't that a great reason against trying to get the "perfect landing"?
sounds like a good way to have a low altitude stall. good exercise at 3500 feet alright- above ground level, not sea level, unless the aitport is close to sea level!
Would’ve looked slicker on the first approach if you’d been on centreline on finals rather than just late at the end of the approach. Also try and maintain centreline after landing. Good luck!
Your so good at keeping the 1000’ markers on the same line (top of compass) until the piano keys are under you and out of sight.
You all have my full admiration for being able to do this.
1:38 Umm, is it a good idea to tell student pilots to intentionally stall and recover at 500ft AGL? Especially if they try that in a real plane, and not flight Sim. My minimum is 2.5k feet AGL for intentionally attempting stalls. Especially if they happen to have some rudder input before stall, maybe trying to correct for crosswind, that could progress into a bit of a spin, requiring altitude for recovery
its a video, obviously he wont do it at 500 feet but its a flight simulator so he doesnt need to be exactly realistic.
@@rylancarter6289 the video thumbnail and title aren’t saying anything about simulator, so that’s why I worry a pilot learning and struggling with their real landings might see this. Especially those that are allowed to fly solo, but still want to improve their landing smoothness
Good point.
Agreed. I also noted the comment at 0.51 about 10 degree flap extension & speed not really being all that important. Well I'd argue it is and that goes for in both directions faster and slower.
Hello!
This video of yours is very interesting, I've been training these lessons of yours, but it's difficult to get a good calibration, X-Plane11 flight, Cessna 172, with an X52 Pro, would you have any tips for a good Joystick calibration?
Thanks!
Currently in my Cessna 152, hopefully this video helps me land it!
I have crashed so many 172s and 182s trying to get the "perfect" landing that I'm now an expert in aircraft accident reports. I know so many shortcuts through those long and tedious paperwork that I can now do them in 15 minutes even in a fatality (not my own, duh!). I think they make the reports so tedious so that if you fill one out it may be a deterrent to flying and you give up. One time I landed the plane upside down to see if I could and it caught on fire.
What airspeed is recommended for the base too final turn. (in a 172) I always had trouble with landing when I moved to a cherokee 6 until I got the airspeed at exactly 70kns over the numbers.
Little tip when instructor says “aim for the number” does not mean you gonna land on the number. You can use much runway as possible for the smooth landing if you feel like you got too much speed, number is just good aiming point to get ground effect. All my PPL I thought instructor was made me land on the number because he didn’t clarify that.
Don’t write words you speak. as in gonna, wanna. People using slang expressions never think they’re making it harder for someone who doesn’t have English as a first language to read. Gonna, gotta, wanna, outta, and kinda all represent words as they are pronounced in informal, spoken English. They should not be used in formal writing.
I soloed in this bird in 1972 as a 16-year-old CAP cadet. I’ll never forget that day!
At 4:19, the airspeed is out of the white arc, with the flaps extended. My instructor is not happy when this happens.
Watching this from the cockpit rn. Wish me luck! I'll comment on this video for an update on how my landing went 👍
Very nicely done and explained. Thanks for sharing.
Good video! Remember my first landing. My CFI said, "You're not flying a 727!" I did get better with his help.
Your instructor thought that you thought you were were flying a 727?
CFI?
@@Capecodham Certified flight instructor
@@Capecodham certified flight instructor
Thanks much! Probably the best landing tutorial out there.
My instructor said I was ready for my first attempted landing tomorrow and I’m lucky enough to capture it on my go pro. I’m both excited and a little nervous, not because I think anything bad is going to happen I just really want it to go well. It would be really nice to be able to say I buttered my first landing
Update. How was that first landing?
@@ragundojones2634Im wondering too I have my first landing tomorrow.
I’m at 4 hours logged for flying
I'm not a pilot, but I was wondering: How do you know if you're on the right glide slope or not? Also, how easy or difficult is it to make corrections if you're coming in too steep or too shallow?
Right glideslope, in more detail the vasi lights on beginning left side of that runway...2 rows of lights, (back row & front row)
if both rows are red = you're too low
Both rows white= too high.... Back row WHITE front row RED. = Correct Glideslope. If coming in too steep use LESS power, throttle back,
Coming in too shallow use MORE power, Airspeed is key, DO NOT let airspeed get less than 60 knots in Cessna 172. and when trying all that at first.
VERY DIFFICULT, especially when there are slight updrafts and downdrafts of wind on final approach...even small crosswinds.....It took me maybe 30 or 40 tries, maybe more, before I could make a landing. The more you practice, the easier it gets....After a while, you get a FEEL for it. Become "one with your bird."
In this video, it was very hard to see the vasi glideslope lights...but in real life on final approach,
much easier to see.
My CFI told me altitude was kind. I learned the dive and flare landings. A little scary but with slips it saved my B hind more than once..
Best feeling in the world when you land a plane!
. . . after sliding down the ILS out of 200 feet overcast and 1/2 mile visibility . . . and holy crap, the airport is right where it should be!
Best landing video so far in collection.
Thank you for the video. My pilot just passed out, and I'm going to have to land this bird myself. Wish me luck!
Great video!
(But would be better if the RPM dial were in full view for the whole video.)
Been a private now since 1994. Love it!!!
Where at ?
Good vid. But turn your settings down or something. Those frame drops are insane.
Well explained.
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Wow. That seems dangerous to stall at that low of an altitude.
I thought the same thing.
A low altitude stall is not dangerous if you stay on top of it by propping up the falling wing by applying rudder. If you just sit there, then yes, it is dangerous.
@@peteinwisconsin2496 The problem is, there's no room for error. The wrong rudder input wouldn't be good. Neither would a panic deepening of the stall by pulling up. No room to recover in either case.
Bobbysands wrote: > The problem is, there's no room for error. <
Yes, it helps a lot knowing what you're doing. I remember it like it was yesterday. I was out with an instructor, getting my biennial flight review. He said Let's do an approach to landing stall. I set the Skyhawk up to stall, eased the yoke back to the stop and soon felt the airplane drop through. As soon as the left wing dropped I pounced on the right rudder pedal and the wing leveled and returned briefly to flight. With the yoke all the way back, the plane stalled and again I pounced on the rudder. After a few cycles of watching me have a gay old time dancing on the rudder pedals, the instructor said: "Approach to landing stall." Oh, right. Rudder to level the wing while easing the yoke forward, add power and fly away. BTW three stall/ return to flight cycles lost maybe 500 feet.
Bobbysands is right that there is no room for error when you don't know what you're doing. 10,000 feet AGL might not be enough for some. It takes several seconds come down from 500 feet AGL, even in a stall/spin, so you have time to do something but you gotta know what you're doing. If you don't instinctively know what to do, then I suggest more time practicing slow flight and stalls or rent a 152 and an instructor to perform some spins. Sitting in the left seat does not entitle you to "ride" the airplane. You are the final authority for safe operation of the aircraft so know what you're doing.
I ended up landing my planes just about this way. I hold it just off the runway, continuing to pull the nose up to keep it there. I feel like I’m imitating a bird as I reach forward with my gear to set it down. I think I’m only like a foot above the runway as I glide off the speed to touchdown. Be the bird😉.
I like to hear the stall warning horn as I touch down. I want no lift left in the wings. And I also make maybe a quarter of my landings without flaps. That way when one day I find I have no choice, it won't be something new and scary.
Nic video, man. One of the better flying, or in this case landing tutorials I've vern seen on YT.
About the only thing I'd add, based on my fifteen years of flying and nearly thirty years of flight simming, is to understand how the landing characteristics of a light plane like the C-172 (approach weight and indicated speed, power, propellor pitch and mixture settings, flap setting) changes the exact approach speed you need to attain and control for the load and flap setting and power setting chosen. Above all, airspeed awareness and control around all three axes is paramount on approach and landing.
By the way, landing your way is the easiest way to land a plane. Try doing it at night in limited visibility in a strong and gusty crosswind that is at or very near the aircraft's demonstated crosswind component onto a slippery or snow covered runway. Few things get your attention in flying more starkly than having either the rudder or the ailerons fully deflected in order to mainain control of the airplane right down to douchdown and beyond. The flight isn't over until the plane is shut down, the plane locked, the aircaft tied down or hangared and the paperwork and log entry completed.
If anyone want to go anywhere in MS Flight Simulator 2020, anything from from short hops to treks half the way around the earth in transport category aircraft, they'll have to learn how to navigate. Naviating is flying specific tracks above the grout acertain altitudes and speeds depending on which category of airspace one is flying within. This includes radio navigation, using GPS to "go direct" and the most basic form of navigation: ded reckoning, aka flying from A to B using a map, compass and stopwatch. The way the aviation pioneers learne how to do in the old days, before moing maps and stopwatches changed to flat panel multi-feature displays and synthetic vision.
Landings are are full stall sin ground effect, with the timing of the flare employed to arrest the aircraft's descent at two to four feet above the runway. Then holding tha altitude and attidue as rhe aircraft sinds to the runway, nose up. landings are sometimes the most challengng aspedct of flying. But they are but one part of what it takes, in the real world to earn the title "private pilot" or highe ratings on your license.
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I'm not a pilot, but isn't it somewhat dangerous to imitate a landing (and a stall!) at 1000 AGL?
You and the aircraft become one fly the aircraft to the runway. Don't fixate on the Earth's speed just Glimpse at it and you are correct keep that Runway inside that your peripheral vision take you on down to the runway.
Turn the pinwheel off and glide into the asphalt nose first, ease the yoke back a tich and hit the binders when you make contact with Mother Earth
During WW II my father wanted to become a pilot. He was an excellent flyer except for one thing - he couldn't land the plane. He had a problem with depth perception that he didn't tell the army about. The army even brought in a specialist to try to teach him but he couldn't. So he had to give up flying.
Legend has it he's flying around to this day trying to land the plane?
Everyone can land a plane, but some only once.
you are the KING. Thanks!
Great Video. I like the way you explain landings in such a relaxed manner. Are you a CFI?
30 years ago I was a passenger in the copilot seat on a 172 landing near Marianna FLA . At 50 yards short of the runway edge the stall alarm goes off and we touchdown on the grass and roll onto the tarmac. The pilot noticed I had a panicked look on my face he said “ I guess I should have told you we were going to land short I did that to save wear on the tires”
Awesome lecture.
Thanks for making this video short. I'm running out of fuel.
15 hr into my ppl and i wish i found your videos when i first started , much appreciated pal
ppl? people?
@@Capecodham Private pilot's license
@@HerrinSchadenfreude What did he do with the time he saved not typing rivate ilot's icense?
@K1OIK PPL is a very well-known abbreviation in aviation for a private pilot license. You can say PPL to basically anyone involved in aviation and they will know exactly what you mean, probably because they've got their PPL, their CFI, CFII, IR, CPL, and so forth. Theirs lots of different licenses and ratings that get abbreviated. Almost everything in aviation is abbreviated honestly.
Thank you for the valuable information, great work! ❤ ( 10-03-24 ) Thursday
Wow Excellent video on landing. Thanks for this information.
We practiced emergency landings by trimming the tops of corn plants at the Jester Unit Prison Farm, Sugar Land, Texas.
All I can say is WOW,WOW,WOW! Doing stalls at 1000 ft. AGL? Adding full power and nose up when
initiating a go around? No wonder Dan Gryder is having such a struggle to stop pilots from fatal stall spins!!!!!
thank you
in the air right now
forgot how to land
was in air for 23 years
I was taught to fly by the USAF. They taught power on approaches, even in a 172.
No bad habits for the big iron, right?
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does this work for 737's? Asking for a friend thats trying to land one right now as the pilots out.