Conflict of Nations - All You Need to Know about the Support Units
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2022
- A tutorial video about the support units such as the artilleries and the Anti Air.
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Artillery and SAMs are some of the most important parts of this game.. I prefer Sams to air superiority fighters because my Sam's dont need to refuel or take damage when they engage other aircraft..
They only need a 10 minutes reload time
Arty+sam+mobile radar could be powerfull support stack
Nope i use both sams and asf, asf is for countering helicopters
@@hoonigan1423 also important to have the asf/Sam combo to deploy to multiple locations and focus where it’s needed most.
@@MelliodasGamingwhich is the best
Thanks bro, straight to the point, enjoyable content. Love it.
I always make a huge stack of units when invading a country, I never lost a war with this and I only have to send one stack of this troops mix. It includes 5 main battle tanks, 5 infantry, 5 mobile sam, 5 AA, 5 MRL, and one mobile radar. This stack alone always takes care of a country even if they have the strongest air force
A stack of special forces could counter that. If you want to get super strategic, you could lure that stack in with special forces, then drop a few conventional ballistics missiles on both armies. The special forces would be fine for the most part, your vehicles wouldn't though.
@@draybush1112 no it wouldn't the radar would detect it and if I saw a group of special forces I would attack with the MRL them retreat the whole army itself
@@carlossandoval9102 Yeah, the mobile radar units could detect them if they're maxed out. Otherwise, radar units aren't able to identify stealth units (like F-35s or Special forces).
Honestly, if you were beside me, the second I saw a lvl 3 army base under construction, I'm sending everything I have at you.
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European Mobile Artillery level 4 got 36 HP and level 3 33 HP meaning if you want to play a match and use this unit, European Doctrine is the way to go while speaking about extra hit points, best nation that suits this is France, Germany and Brazil since this countries got 2 components cities in their homelands
Golden informations 👏 thanks Cap
I always wanted to use support unit but every player I come across, uses land army a lot with tanks and I stays offline a bit and that's why I don't want my artillery to stay at one place , beside I do use Anti missile system and sometime SAM's if my enemies has bomber and jets especially if they have naval jets cuz Bomber take time to attack and take time to leave the radar range , that's good
Artilleries needs activity
You can never win with arti without being online operating them
@@MelliodasGaming indeed
Waiting for all fighters or navy guide. That would be awesome!
They are comiiiing 🔥
W Video
Getting close to air units 👀✨
Do you have important infos to point out in the air units video ?
I think arteries are useless if you don't have membership of security council you can't use fire control if you offline other player arteries attack you and you arteries is do nothing and just defending what you think Melliodas?if some one not have membership how they use arteries?
That’s wrong
Fire control is useles in artillery battles
If you want to kill everyone with artilleries ? Stay online hit them and run back
He means at same levels of activity
arteries are very important to keep blood flowing around your body!
Even the default mode will still attack an enemy radar or an enemy it can see as long as it is stopped, so it is still useful then. Obviously you have to make sure it doesn’t run into enemy units in melee
But attiralys can distroy buildings.
Rocket support is very good. Put it with some sam launchers and you have an op back line to protect and destroy
And cover them with fighters 🔥
@@MelliodasGaming il faut défendre l’artillerie des infanteries comme surtout les forces spéciales , de l’infanterie aéroportée et de toute menace aérien Grace aux anti hélicoptères 🚁, anti avions ✈️ et anti missile 🚀
@@conflictsofnations6879 exactement !
Les artis ont besoin d’une protection constante
@@MelliodasGaming I prefer protect them with mobile AA + mobile radar unit. Maybe it's more expensive than a plane, but they can be very mobile and a strongest stack of support unit
do you have a video of what to do if your getting eaten up by rogue states + how many games do you play at once + do you do 4x or 1x speed
I will make a video about that
Hi - i have some questions hah:
How much HP is each missle. So what you need to stop each of the missles? For instance you can stop nuke with level1 TD if in the city? If yes it will not get damged? Can you cover 2 cities with 3 TDs? How much HP are all the others missles? How many SAMs i need in stack to protect from smaller missles?
i normally use mrl, sams and radars in my stack and dont use maa as i like to cover with my asf. i have been experimenting with awacs a bit though
Yes fighters or MAA are needed
Hey melliodas you going play Flashpoint or Battleground x4 speed?
SAM is one of the most overpowered unit in this game: they shoot every 10 min instead of every hour, they start shooting the moment the enemy's patrol circle touches the airdefense circle (so effective range can be 150), and they start functioning when landing/deploying.
Also, no one mentioned their powerful anti-insurgency abillity: they have high unit strength, roughly ,1SAM=2 infantry, so having two SAMs or 1SAM+ 1infantry in a newly occupied city is often enough to surpress insurgency chance to zero. This is why I always keep spamming SAMs non stop even when there is no imminent air threat--I use them to hold newly occupied cities.
But they are vulnerable to helis and cannot deal with emergency situation, so they cannot completely replace the role of fighters.
I always build mobile radars but I recently wonder if they can be completely replaced by AWACS. That mobile radar can detect infantry at lvl.3 (Tier 2) is sometimes a disadvantage aganst human players, because in the first phase of the war I want to locate the position of enemy artillery and air defense (high threat targets), and don't want those low-threat infantry to appear on my radar to add complexity to my task.
Nice video keep going
i wish i saw this before i researched mobile sam against the guy with the gunship helis,thats getting closer to my land today xD
What are hit points exactly? Why are they important? Thank you
Very good video
Do you use UAVs? I like them, but i am curious if i am doing it correctly
Si vous êtes un joueur qui fait de la Blitzkrieg et qui a ses unités qui ont une vitesse trop élevé pour que l’artillerie puisse les suivre Je vous conseille de vous appuyer avec des hélicoptère de combat ou des bombardier loi contre les cibles souple et des hélicoptère d’attaque ou les chasseurs bombardier contre les cibles dures .
So what is the best stack to have for support
What would you say about my only ground setup (I mostly use it when my Koalition alr uses navi and airforce), Main battle tanks for earlygame and to tank my mobile artillery’s and SAMs + antiair and radars
nope get rid of the tanks. they are too expensive to research and produce. the late game strat is great though
@@generals1584 although the tanks are expensive I often play this strategy with country’s that have 7 city’s, Germany is my favourite, like that components aren’t a problem
@@Tiex2248 still not a good idea, if you want something for early game just make air
10:00 I noticed that if you attack with helicopter the SAM units it steel shoot back. Yes description said it not able to shoot helis but in my case it did .
Nice videos First Komen from Malaysia hehe
😍🙏
What is the use of Radar? Like I mostly use UAV to target units with MRLS.
Usually I just send my troops in with a combat recon vehicle and pray it works out
Melliodas I don't have security council Melliodas should I use main bettel tanks or arteries?
Artilleries 🔥
Thank you, you might still know me, I was the one that was recommending this video, anyway, I’m now gonna watch it, I know this is gonna be good.
Btw I’m not very good at English, so if I sayd something strange pls say it.
Haha your english is good ✌️
Does the support unit count as soft targets?
Nice video! Can u play as serbia next?
Heyy
I have a solo series with Greater Serbia in rising tides check it out 🔥
can someone pls explain me how many anti rocket systems (max lvl) I need to defend a ICBM (max lvl).
How can we use Multiple rocket launcher without membership? without membership if someone attack on your multiple rocket launcher they not attack they just defending what you think mellidas?
Mrls will attack back automatically if they see an enemy coming
Security council membership has nothing to do with it
@@MelliodasGaming Well it makes a big difference Imo being able to send a stack of mrls with the option to shoot while moving
I need some advice on fighter jets and naval (what to invest in)
depends on the situation
Where can I find m198
Idol What the best support with Recon tank and Mechanized infantry ?
Try to stack support unit?
Mobile arty + mobile AA + mobile radar can be best stack of supporting team
good video
When are you gonna do the poll for the next series?
Before that i have a set of videos to publish
@@MelliodasGaming ok
Looks like they did some balance updates to the stats since this video.
what changes?
I have a question, I have a Patriot well a few spread out how good actually are they ? I mean does each battery fire 4 missles like in real life ? or is it like a 1 times deal thing
Mrl can attack navy isn't it bro...?
M artillery can fulfill the job of armored units when its maximum level and support from 2 infinataries level 5, With attack helicopters which is really cheap.
And Sam launchers against air.
Yes it definitely can
Make a Cuba series
I owned a helicopter gunship when I attacked the anti-aircraft gunship. He was able to easily destroy the helicopter ganships. I didn't understand what happened.
what is an anti aircraft gunship? do you mean mobile anti air? in that case, gunships do very bad damage to armoured targets while anti air does a lot of damage to helis
@@generals1584 yes, mobil anty air
@@empratorkurd4835 gunships are very bad against mobilr anti air
Gunships are only usefull vs infantries
@@empratorkurd4835 mobile AA is natural enemy of any kind of helo, so you attack your stongest enemy where you should avoid it
You forgot to discuss the radar signature! Why a radar detects a Recon vehicle but not an infantry unit!
Research mobile radar to lv5 to open it, after upgrade to lv3 or tier 2, mobile radar have low signature to detect all of land unit, where land unit have low radar signature. You can detect it by fight them, using recon vehicle or mobile radar lv 3+.
Awacs maybe have greater range than mobile radar, but awacs can't exact detect land unit like mobile radar do.
I'm on day 6 and still have no artillery and have took over Indiana and Ohio idk why or what's going on
You know what confusing, the 2K22 Tunguska literally HAS built in SAM missiles on it but it doesn't do more damage to planes?! 🤔
This might be a silly noob question, but when it comes to damage, do all support units count as "armored"?
I ask because they're classified just as "support" and not "armored"
Yes they are all armoured hard targets except for towed artillery it is considered as soft target
@@MelliodasGaming Thank you!!
Good to know!
And i was not expecting that about the towed artillery.
Mobile radar is broken. I had it max level and I could use mrr to destroy the enemy units from far. I held off in a 2v1 until I became stupid and left my cities vulnerable to naval invasion
Most county’s don’t really care or use navel units but I do
@@pizza7502 navel?
Try playing using a island country like England, Japan, Philippines, or Indonesia, you can feel how important of navy to defend your home land.
Build a navy, hold the choke point, and your home land will be safe from naval intrusion.
99% win the sea win the game.
I never made mobile radar in any game and never felt the need for them.. And im def guilty of spacing my theater defense and sam systems out to over lap in coverage
Hey meilodas I just want to tell u that if u ever get bored of con I will still support and watch u if u choose to do something else
Thank youuuu Mark 🙏❤️
Make a video about how to get good capital defense
Okeey 😁
How can I get more incomes for fuel oil ?
build arms industries in fuel cities
L’artillerie tractée est la meilleure contre les cibles molles terrestres à son meilleur niveau.
C vrai aussi ils aidekt beaucoup au debut de jeu
AWACS dont show infantaries 😔
Neither mobile radar before level 3
Because all infantry unit have low signature radar who only can detect by fight them, using recon vehicle or mobile radar lv 3+, even awacs fully upgrade still can't exactly detect land unit
Why do my troops lose a lot of health even tho they ain’t fighting anyone
You're probably using "rush" command while moving. You lose 5 hp for each unit in the stack per hour while rushing to destination
@@HussOnTheBeat wow yeah I was lol thanks much appreciated
Are towed artilery is good?
Kind of
Good vs infantry/soft target, and they cheap than other arty
but we cant do a stack of 10
I figured it out I was watching your fight against Duong and You accidentally left your artillery stacked with sam's on Hold fire That's why Your sam's did not attack Russias stealth ASF
If you have artillery stacked with sam's and You leave them on hold fire Your entire stack will be on hold fire and Not do anything
PS hold fire is a feature in CoN which makes Artillery and Ships not attack an enemy
Exactly yes i explained it in a video because that detail is very important and it cost me a battle
@@MelliodasGaming so just the goal is to have a stack of sams only ?
@@MelliodasGaming so the goal is to have a stack of sams only ?
I have won many games by just countering air and missiles with sams and theater defense and not making any mobile anti air AAA units.. Because 90 percent of public players dont use helicopters ... I on the other hand love using helicopters especially if I'm eastern or western doctrine
Watch what happened to my in New Zealand series without Mobile Anti Air 🥲
@@MelliodasGaming oh I believe you.. Against competent players that use helios you can def get messed up
I usually cover my armor unit using mobile AA + mobile radar for recon. For home land defense, radar + theater defense (for anti balistic) + mobile AA or sam is good enough.
Mobile AA at fully upgrade maybe not strong enough as sam, but they (mobile AA) can attack helo where sam can't do it, and mobile AA have some att and def againts infantry and armor unit, where sam don't have it.
@@lifewater123 yeah I hear you.. I use AAA from time to time... Its just 90 percent of players Ive encountered dont know how to use helicopters effectively or en mass... They use Strike Fighters or Bombers or Fighters as their air assets and thats why I make mad Sams and Frigates ... Because they obliterate fixed wing air...
@@cadian122 if you have coastal city, just plot a frigate in harbor is enough for cover both air defense and naval defense 😂
But usually I still have radar for longer recon + theater defense for balistic missile def purpose
Is it just me or has pub matches been very lackluster lately?
Game is extremely buggy these days
@@MelliodasGaming I meant player skill wise. Most games seem you get to where you are completely unstoppable in the first 2 or 3 days
@@jagerwahl Yeah, I am in day 14 and I am almost invincible now 💀
Do u still play the game
He does
@@jackftbl4173 ok
I just got my first solo win😁😁
Congratzzzz 😍😍
@@MelliodasGaming and I’m rank 28 😁😁 is that good and I promise I didn’t betray
The next empire vietnam?
I just entered that game to make the video haha now Phili is attacking me
Ok
mobile sam + air superiority fighters and you dont need mobile aa
Hi
Hi meliodas
Question: How hard do you think it is to play afghanistan, which includes neighbors, economy, and cities
On a scale of 1-10 How hard
@@AvarageMexicoBall i would say 7. it has a few stronger neighbours but at least it has 6 cities
@@generals1584 Ok, I asked for melliodas opinion, but I never said I won't take any other answers
@@generals1584 My first WW3 game was with afghanistan, and Iraq was high ranked. He took out Iran and then literally declared war on me. Even though, I took him out and later won while his coalition broke down, cause of greece's major betrayal of Iraq
@@AvarageMexicoBall nice job! in most of my games afghanistan gets destroyed by iran, pakistan or kazakhstan
Second haha
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