Helicopters are very much a defensive unit I'd say, very useful in early game, and if you are using an aircraft carrier, it is also convenient to carry those AWS to destroy those subs.
^^ and they do more damage to troops they can be useful I like to use them with anti tank and UAVs when UAVs are maxed out.. they need to be upgraded they take a lot of damage
i always use the helis "the helicopter gun ship" at the very early game like day 5 because as every should know that every one focus on infantries in the early game so i can defeat my enemy with it
When I began the game, I had the blessing of joining a really good alliance. When I tried out to join, my trainer was the best player in the alliance He taught me from the beginning, that fixed wing aircrafts are almost entirely useless when you are playing against experienced foes. Pro players will make sams as soon as possible He taught me that helicopters are a underrated unit, and when I began using them, I felt the same. Gunships shred early game. And they open the way to attack helicopters, which you should always mix with gunships if you plan to use helis for late game too I personally have never used naval copters. Only naval patrol aircraft got the designated purpose of hunting ships and subs The only down side to playing helis are their poor range and slow speed.. but you can easily safeguard them from the most immediate threats. Don't send helis deep into enemy territory, they are prime targets for fighters Play them via patrol attack and edge your border with the enemy, keep the helis within range of your or friendly sams They are really really good. Now, I recently discovered that Strike Fighters are pretty good in casual pub matches.. no one makes sams. But that's the only fixed wing aircrafts I will use outside of Elite Attack Aircraft, AWACS, and NPA. Fighters are useless. If you have issues with enemy air, make Sam or mobile AA. never use fighters to counter other fighters.... unless you have a huge number or technology advantage, the damage is risky and totally rng based, I learned that the hard way All in all, I highly recommend helicopters. They are good, and play very very well with usual loadouts that pros run (such as MA, MAA, MLRS, SAMS)
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If you dont mind explaining why is awacs so good? I get longest range radar in the game but it looks very expensive and hard to build (lvl 4 airbase), and you can get ground radar cheaper, which make more sense to me. Not saying you are wrong just that I dont see how come they are so usefull
I don't think the same. In a Flashpoint game i was France. US send me two stacks of 5 bombers each from North Sea. I was lucky to see him with an allied submarine, so, i moved my AWACS and launched my fighters to intercept; they was killed with ease. If i was playing only with SAMs, the bombers could arrived and launch cruise missiles or simply break my SAM defense using timing. Or they could retreat to attack on another less defended space. In another game (WW3 map) a player uses ASF with elite officer to break havoc in Asia, using cruise missiles. He had many airbases and airfields, so, it was heavy to defeat their inland cities (he was China). I managed to locate his fighters and with my Strikers i destroy almost many on the ground, the rest was shoot down with ASF. This was an oportunity attack that was not possible using SAMs. SAMs is a defensive unit that put you on a defensive stance, with limited tactical options. For other side, fixed wing, as the real life, are the best units if you play them well. The first thing that ANY army would do on a modern war is to ensure AIR DOMINANCE. You can't win air dominance with SAMs, that is do with aircraft, fixed AND rotary ones. SAMs are used to DENY AIR SPACE. What would any commander do with an enemy playing airspace denial? destroy his capacity to deny air. And this game have units to do it: Special Forces and helicopters.
Helicopters are worth it in this meta because from the last 10 games I’ve played people rush sams to counter the planes but lack on MAA making helicopters all the better
But even aah the heli are still stronger than they will take damage but will win especially if you mix gunships and attack heli with a comander. Only thing to worry about is af.
My English is not very good but I still watch you with subtitles, thanks for such content, I recently started playing and immediately found you, I’m very glad that you exist❤
One use of gunship and heli officer is to capture enemy airbase, since they do zero damage to buildings. This is important at early game, to save resources and to allow fast expansion. Also, if your enemy has an airbase close to the border or close to the sea, then gunships can be used to destroy aircrafts on the ground, since aircrafts on the ground are considered as soft targets, and helis cannot be detected by most radars and are not afraid of the SAMs defending the airbase, making them perfect for this task.
Attack helicopter is the one thing that I often build but don't spam them in large numbers. I typically have 2 attack wings (one with officer) as a special purpose group, and use them to destroy enemy SAMs in locations where it is too inconvenient/urgent for my MRL stacks to go.
ASW is specifically for submarines. It stands for Anti Submarine Warfare and they were used a lot alongside Naval Patrol Aircraft to detect, deter and destroy submarines with nuclear weapons during the Cold War.
Once they release the choppers carrier, I guess asw would be more usefull alongside airbone infant if they can go from the carrier to the enemy costal cities.
Heli definitely worth it I use them all the time especially early game they eat up infantry stacks with ease and then the anti tank helicopters r beasts 💪🏻
If you are being invaded by an army with 5 battle tanks and 2 mechanized infantry and you use helicopter gunship it will eliminate the infantry leaving only the tanks which can’t conquer territory you can do the same thing with chemical weapons
@@MelliodasGaming you can also use chemical cruise missiles I love doing that because usually my opponent doesn’t find out his infantry are gone until he is no longer conquering land because tanks without infantry are useless
I usually like to outsmart my enemies by seeing their most weaknesses by scouting their lands with my fighters then if i see them having a lot of troops i produce helicopter gunships if i see them making tanks i will make attack helicopters but most of the people actually make soft units and upgrade them so i would definitely recommend producing helicopter's gunships IF u make TONS of recourses at the start of the game
oh they are worth it.. especially Eastern Doctrine Gunships in urban areas like the mIddle East and Europe... they are so clutch and are cheap and you get them early and they massacre early units.. I love them very much but don't use Attack Helios much at all because by that point I'm focusing on a Navy and Artillery and Sams and Armored Vehicles ...
Well I personally think making them in early game like by day 3 while in Europe and Asia is a good thing...only gunships and lvl.1 upgrading them is waste..
I love this game....I always play Cuba or NZ. I am out of the way of everything and build up the economy and fight. Sometimes, I use subs, but sometimes, I focus on tanks, Infantry, special guard, millita, or rocket power....it never works well.
NZ is horrible for morale. I once played with NZ and couldn't expand because I always faced rogue states because morale wouldn't go up because of the capital being so far away
In my opinion you're better off going with Strike Fighters early game for most matches except Europe since you'll need that extra range and save resources instead of building a bunch of airports. Mid to late game you can start researching helicopters to defend your homeland and to destroy anti aircraft units. In that case I would start with anti armor helicopter instead of gunship. Overall it depends on where your homeland is located.
I just used attack helicopters and defeated an enemy that was using the supposedly best stacks (mrl, sam, mobile aa, radar, infantry) and even though his units were all high level and my helicopters were level 4, I was able to beat them down
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Bro what's the best starter game warship?I am asking becaz I managed to get myself into an apocalypse 4x game as New Zealand exactly like you,but my problem is that,I like a fool conquered the ai nations giving Australia time to prepare,now he has a bunch of arms industries,recruiting offices etc.(I am a noob btw)so I wanted to use warships to destroy his cities and conquer them before he can even counterattack.But since I am a noob,I don't know which ship I should use,since I have a very small amt of rare materials,electronics and fuel
Generallywhen you go into a game you want to have a loadout in mind. And by that I mean, based on what nation you pick, you decide which kind of mainstream units you want to go for (Air, Support/Artillery, Armor, Naval, etc) If you're a nation that's got at least two port cities, (the more the better) and a decent supply of Components, Supplies and Electronics, you have a good chance for a great naval play Early on for naval you want to make corvettes. Most people in casual matches skip them and go straight for other ships, which takes much more time and resources and leaves them vulnerable to early corvettes. If Australia has had time to prepare, it is best to see what he has by viewing his cities. Recruiting Offices mean he's likely making National Guard, which are weak but they're very cheap and produce in half the time that a Motorized Infantry can mobilize. So what you might want to do is make some Corvettes, research Destroyers and Frigates, and start producing them. If Australia has any level three port cities you want to make destroyers before frigates, it's likely then that Australia is making Attack Submarines or Frigs/Destroyers. Does Australia have any air bases? If not then you can focus on destroyers for now, but you definitely want to get frigates at some point. Cruisers you don't really have to use, Aircraft Carriers are pretty useless, Attack Submarines are great if you max them out so they have Attack range of 100 And missile Submarines are useless.
@@vividgaming3037 thnx for the tip!I could need it later. I saw his cities rn,and except the arms industries which need repairs,all of his buildings are lvl 1 and he only has 1 air base which is also lvl 1,so do you think I can use destroyers to destroy his troops and than use my infantries to conquer them?
@@vividgaming3037 thnx so much!I have started getting my hands on 5 destroyers,eventually after getting a few lvl 4 motorized infantries,I will start the invasion of Australia
@@vividgaming3037 ok I have a problem,that guy has damn 7 lvl 3 national guards along with 2 motorized infantries and one towed artillery defending his capital and my destroyer isn't doing that much damage,what should I do now?
I have a question about the season unit. If I collected the required points, and I had the participation of the Security Council, but it ended before the end of the season, will I get the unit? I hope you will reply me before the end of the season
Today I lost 4 towed artilleries against gunships. The weird thing is that they where located in different positions. I have no idea what the hell happened. Can someone explain it to me? I forgot to mention they got annihilated with just one strike
If you select patrol in an area it attacks all stacks in that area. Also works to hit targets quicker by setting the helicopter to patrol closer to the air field
i once had 50 helicopters i had the best defends i fighted 5 countrys as ethopia and i has nearly no troops just helicopters they invaded all of my territory just my main land managed to survive beacause of the helicopters 😂😂😂
Gunships are good early game vs infs Attack helis are OP vs hard targets and they help kill all kinds of anti air ASW helis ? Well i do not find them that useful
Helicopters are very much a defensive unit I'd say, very useful in early game, and if you are using an aircraft carrier, it is also convenient to carry those AWS to destroy those subs.
I love carrying those Anti Warfare Submarines.
That's why I always start with jets 😅
aye sams dont damage helis
^^ and they do more damage to troops they can be useful I like to use them with anti tank and UAVs when UAVs are maxed out.. they need to be upgraded they take a lot of damage
i always use the helis "the helicopter gun ship" at the very early game like day 5
because as every should know that every one focus on infantries in the early game so i can defeat my enemy with it
Yes agreed they help a lot early game
When I began the game, I had the blessing of joining a really good alliance. When I tried out to join, my trainer was the best player in the alliance
He taught me from the beginning, that fixed wing aircrafts are almost entirely useless when you are playing against experienced foes. Pro players will make sams as soon as possible
He taught me that helicopters are a underrated unit, and when I began using them, I felt the same. Gunships shred early game. And they open the way to attack helicopters, which you should always mix with gunships if you plan to use helis for late game too
I personally have never used naval copters. Only naval patrol aircraft got the designated purpose of hunting ships and subs
The only down side to playing helis are their poor range and slow speed.. but you can easily safeguard them from the most immediate threats.
Don't send helis deep into enemy territory, they are prime targets for fighters
Play them via patrol attack and edge your border with the enemy, keep the helis within range of your or friendly sams
They are really really good. Now, I recently discovered that Strike Fighters are pretty good in casual pub matches.. no one makes sams. But that's the only fixed wing aircrafts I will use outside of Elite Attack Aircraft, AWACS, and NPA. Fighters are useless. If you have issues with enemy air, make Sam or mobile AA. never use fighters to counter other fighters.... unless you have a huge number or technology advantage, the damage is risky and totally rng based, I learned that the hard way
All in all, I highly recommend helicopters. They are good, and play very very well with usual loadouts that pros run (such as MA, MAA, MLRS, SAMS)
I appreciate your knowledge sharing with us mate
I agree with every word you said 👏👏
And I appreciate you for making such good content, there is a lot of things you mentioned that most casual players don't know or realize. It's honestly a lifesaver, you earned a sub from me
If you dont mind explaining why is awacs so good? I get longest range radar in the game but it looks very expensive and hard to build (lvl 4 airbase), and you can get ground radar cheaper, which make more sense to me. Not saying you are wrong just that I dont see how come they are so usefull
@@user-nf5pr1hm3t ground radars are slow
I don't think the same. In a Flashpoint game i was France. US send me two stacks of 5 bombers each from North Sea. I was lucky to see him with an allied submarine, so, i moved my AWACS and launched my fighters to intercept; they was killed with ease.
If i was playing only with SAMs, the bombers could arrived and launch cruise missiles or simply break my SAM defense using timing. Or they could retreat to attack on another less defended space.
In another game (WW3 map) a player uses ASF with elite officer to break havoc in Asia, using cruise missiles. He had many airbases and airfields, so, it was heavy to defeat their inland cities (he was China). I managed to locate his fighters and with my Strikers i destroy almost many on the ground, the rest was shoot down with ASF. This was an oportunity attack that was not possible using SAMs.
SAMs is a defensive unit that put you on a defensive stance, with limited tactical options.
For other side, fixed wing, as the real life, are the best units if you play them well. The first thing that ANY army would do on a modern war is to ensure AIR DOMINANCE. You can't win air dominance with SAMs, that is do with aircraft, fixed AND rotary ones. SAMs are used to DENY AIR SPACE.
What would any commander do with an enemy playing airspace denial? destroy his capacity to deny air. And this game have units to do it: Special Forces and helicopters.
I don’t use helicopters. I use strikers. But if the enemy has mobile sams. I would use helicopter gunship against the mobile sams.
Next time use attack helis vs SAMS
use attack helicopters, not gunships. sam launchers count as armoured targets
@@generals1584 oh dude i did not know that😐😐😐😐
I literally have been playing this game for 8 months and I don’t know that.
@@oskarlisewski9685 you do now :)
Helicopters are worth it in this meta because from the last 10 games I’ve played people rush sams to counter the planes but lack on MAA making helicopters all the better
Exactly now everyone trying to counter EAA but they forgot about the AHs
Dealing with that now
But even aah the heli are still stronger than they will take damage but will win especially if you mix gunships and attack heli with a comander.
Only thing to worry about is af.
My English is not very good but I still watch you with subtitles, thanks for such content, I recently started playing and immediately found you, I’m very glad that you exist❤
One use of gunship and heli officer is to capture enemy airbase, since they do zero damage to buildings. This is important at early game, to save resources and to allow fast expansion.
Also, if your enemy has an airbase close to the border or close to the sea, then gunships can be used to destroy aircrafts on the ground, since aircrafts on the ground are considered as soft targets, and helis cannot be detected by most radars and are not afraid of the SAMs defending the airbase, making them perfect for this task.
Attack helicopter is the one thing that I often build but don't spam them in large numbers. I typically have 2 attack wings (one with officer) as a special purpose group, and use them to destroy enemy SAMs in locations where it is too inconvenient/urgent for my MRL stacks to go.
ASW is specifically for submarines. It stands for Anti Submarine Warfare and they were used a lot alongside Naval Patrol Aircraft to detect, deter and destroy submarines with nuclear weapons during the Cold War.
Once they release the choppers carrier, I guess asw would be more usefull alongside airbone infant if they can go from the carrier to the enemy costal cities.
Yeap we shall see what will happen
Heli definitely worth it I use them all the time especially early game they eat up infantry stacks with ease and then the anti tank helicopters r beasts 💪🏻
Melliodas: the are only three kinds of Helicopters
Elite helicopter : what about me
That’s another video about all elite units
@@MelliodasGaming i can only find two elite units you covered in videos
Congrats for 12k subs ❤️🇮🇳
I feel nice when i remember when you had around 5k subs and you grew till here.
This is all because of your support ❤️
If you are being invaded by an army with 5 battle tanks and 2 mechanized infantry and you use helicopter gunship it will eliminate the infantry leaving only the tanks which can’t conquer territory you can do the same thing with chemical weapons
Yeap agreed
A mix stack of 3 gunships + 2 AH would kill that stack
Yeap agreed
A mix stack of 3 gunships + 2 AH would kill that stack
@@MelliodasGaming you can also use chemical cruise missiles I love doing that because usually my opponent doesn’t find out his infantry are gone until he is no longer conquering land because tanks without infantry are useless
I use 5 Motorized Infantry, 2 Tanks and 1 Mechanized Infantry
@@EgyptianChiefKeefI also do that, but in my most recent game they all have strong anti air and I'm getting rekt
Really hoping for a video on navy, fighters, or heavys.
Really love your videos they are helping me to win more games and make them more fun
I like to have air superiority and use MLRS, the work best for me, helicopters work best as a defensive unit with airborne or national guard
I usually like to outsmart my enemies by seeing their most weaknesses by scouting their lands with my fighters then if i see them having a lot of troops i produce helicopter gunships if i see them making tanks i will make attack helicopters but most of the people actually make soft units and upgrade them so i would definitely recommend producing helicopter's gunships IF u make TONS of recourses at the start of the game
I use air superiority fighters and attack helicopters. They work well for different circumstances
oh they are worth it.. especially Eastern Doctrine Gunships in urban areas like the mIddle East and Europe... they are so clutch and are cheap and you get them early and they massacre early units.. I love them very much but don't use Attack Helios much at all because by that point I'm focusing on a Navy and Artillery and Sams and Armored Vehicles ...
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In western attack helis compliment asf nicely. In European strike fighter rules. I'm eastern, just build a beast land force and you'll be unstoppable
Well I personally think making them in early game like by day 3 while in Europe and Asia is a good thing...only gunships and lvl.1 upgrading them is waste..
Yes early game they are helpful
Congrats on 12K :)
Main battle tank is great when having mechanized infantry,and anti air vehicles
I usually run 4 attack helis and a heli officer and they wipe out anything
I love this game....I always play Cuba or NZ. I am out of the way of everything and build up the economy and fight. Sometimes, I use subs, but sometimes, I focus on tanks, Infantry, special guard, millita, or rocket power....it never works well.
NZ is horrible for morale. I once played with NZ and couldn't expand because I always faced rogue states because morale wouldn't go up because of the capital being so far away
The Best vid Mellio 💖💖💋
In my opinion you're better off going with Strike Fighters early game for most matches except Europe since you'll need that extra range and save resources instead of building a bunch of airports.
Mid to late game you can start researching helicopters to defend your homeland and to destroy anti aircraft units. In that case I would start with anti armor helicopter instead of gunship.
Overall it depends on where your homeland is located.
very true, i usually build strikes early on my only exception is the USA. i usually go for air superiority fighters and bombers early on.
@@Charlamanethegreat
same here, when im the usa i build air superiority fighters, and bombers early on. then mid-late game i build attack helis.
i have a ultimate attack airforce stack for EARLY-MID game domination
4 gunship helis
4 attack helis
1 rotatory wing officer
Does it actually work?
I just used attack helicopters and defeated an enemy that was using the supposedly best stacks (mrl, sam, mobile aa, radar, infantry) and even though his units were all high level and my helicopters were level 4, I was able to beat them down
I only build attack helos when I see they have Sam launchers.
Simple answer:yes they are worth it only in like eastern military doctrine otherwise they are meh
You should do an updated list with the new Navy ship out.
Bruv. In western doctrine their ah64D does 16. In EU doctrine their Ah64d apache does 11…
is it good if i put gunships and attack choppers in a stack?? btw good video
okay but this game is thrilling af
Newgen?
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Bro what's the best starter game warship?I am asking becaz I managed to get myself into an apocalypse 4x game as New Zealand exactly like you,but my problem is that,I like a fool conquered the ai nations giving Australia time to prepare,now he has a bunch of arms industries,recruiting offices etc.(I am a noob btw)so I wanted to use warships to destroy his cities and conquer them before he can even counterattack.But since I am a noob,I don't know which ship I should use,since I have a very small amt of rare materials,electronics and fuel
Generallywhen you go into a game you want to have a loadout in mind. And by that I mean, based on what nation you pick, you decide which kind of mainstream units you want to go for (Air, Support/Artillery, Armor, Naval, etc)
If you're a nation that's got at least two port cities, (the more the better) and a decent supply of Components, Supplies and Electronics, you have a good chance for a great naval play
Early on for naval you want to make corvettes. Most people in casual matches skip them and go straight for other ships, which takes much more time and resources and leaves them vulnerable to early corvettes.
If Australia has had time to prepare, it is best to see what he has by viewing his cities. Recruiting Offices mean he's likely making National Guard, which are weak but they're very cheap and produce in half the time that a Motorized Infantry can mobilize.
So what you might want to do is make some Corvettes, research Destroyers and Frigates, and start producing them. If Australia has any level three port cities you want to make destroyers before frigates, it's likely then that Australia is making Attack Submarines or Frigs/Destroyers.
Does Australia have any air bases? If not then you can focus on destroyers for now, but you definitely want to get frigates at some point.
Cruisers you don't really have to use, Aircraft Carriers are pretty useless, Attack Submarines are great if you max them out so they have Attack range of 100
And missile Submarines are useless.
@@vividgaming3037 thnx for the tip!I could need it later.
I saw his cities rn,and except the arms industries which need repairs,all of his buildings are lvl 1 and he only has 1 air base which is also lvl 1,so do you think I can use destroyers to destroy his troops and than use my infantries to conquer them?
@@wasifurrahmanwasif4787 if that is all that he has yes. You should have no problem shelling his cities and landing your troops
@@vividgaming3037 thnx so much!I have started getting my hands on 5 destroyers,eventually after getting a few lvl 4 motorized infantries,I will start the invasion of Australia
@@vividgaming3037 ok I have a problem,that guy has damn 7 lvl 3 national guards along with 2 motorized infantries and one towed artillery defending his capital and my destroyer isn't doing that much damage,what should I do now?
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How do you stack helicopters mine don’t stack when I tell multiple ones to go to the same place
I have a question about the season unit. If I collected the required points, and I had the participation of the Security Council, but it ended before the end of the season, will I get the unit? I hope you will reply me before the end of the season
Yes you will get it ofcourse
In the season ranking if you see a yellow mark beside your name that means you have that unit
How do you join empty apocalypse maps ive been trying for hours
Today I lost 4 towed artilleries against gunships. The weird thing is that they where located in different positions. I have no idea what the hell happened. Can someone explain it to me? I forgot to mention they got annihilated with just one strike
If you select patrol in an area it attacks all stacks in that area. Also works to hit targets quicker by setting the helicopter to patrol closer to the air field
I think strike filters are better than helicopters
Me who uses anti air and frigates
What map are you playing?
Question: how to counter attack a stack of helicopters?
Kinda late, but mobile anti air or air superiority fighters
when is the next discord event?
How do you get season 1 badge now
Hey I have a question
It isnt much useful if you dont act quickly when someone declared war on you it can get easy get killed by strike fighters or normal fighters
awacs and drone dont see steel ground unit
Just use good diplomacy and you will be safe 😂
Hi
How can this be day 8?
There's no image for the helicopter gunship. 0:23
i once had 50 helicopters i had the best defends i fighted 5 countrys as ethopia and i has nearly no troops just helicopters they invaded all of my territory just my main land managed to survive beacause of the helicopters 😂😂😂
Tbh im to lazy to watch the whole video can someone just tell me the summary,thanks. Good vid keep it up🎖
Gunships are good early game vs infs
Attack helis are OP vs hard targets and they help kill all kinds of anti air
ASW helis ? Well i do not find them that useful
I use tanks a lot
A very awkard question, Are you French?
Tunisian
ah cool
@@MelliodasGaming
atk helis aka sams killer
I was uk in this game LOL
What map is that in the background?
I use gunships
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