Why Mash Vs Saitama Is Closer Than You Think
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2024
- You all demanded it. So let's finally put Mashle's leading legend, Mash Burnedead, against The One Punch Man himself, Saitama. Is it even possible for him to lose?
Well I'll tell you one thing, Mash Vs Saitama Is CLOSER Than You Think.
Check Out Part 1 & 2👉 • Mash Runs The Gauntlet...
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Cool vid dud
hey dude, can you check your mail?
An interesting fight for Saitama that saitama fans ignore but use as to say he beat goku because he is a gag is Arale.
That imo isn't even close for saitama and one where he would lose.
The reason that the punch squared didn't destroy the solar system was for 2 reasons. 1 Blast and his team redirected it away from the solar system, 2 plot convenience. Saitama and Garou also didn't have direct like punch clashes but only trading blows.
Also in OPM willpower directly correlates to power essentially. The ability to overcome death breaks your limiter and allows for infinite growth and that's how Saitama got so strong. Unless you can one shot someone and obliterate them, they can always keep fighting with more and more power until you lose.
Mash is just one of Saitama's many children he forgot about in another universe like mob
though mob could be in the same universe as saitama
Mob is in the same universe
yet satiama can't even destory a Universe
@@xoutzzy saitama easily can .youtubeguy on disc
@@YTGuyBattles he loses
Damn dude just spoke of the highest view of mash vs the lowest view of saitama just to reach the conclusion of “maybe mash can fight saitama a bit”
It seems he is a huge mashle fanboy. Dude even disconsidered saitama's multi star feat. LOL
@@ubaldojrmonteiro9734he didnt destroy any stars, the blast wouldn’t have been able to even reach the closest star to the solar system, which is 4 light years away, and even if the blast would have destroyed the closest star to the solar system the moment it was sent, light cant travel faster than light so it would still take 4 years for it to be seen that the star was destroyed
@@DeoderantHater what kind of argument is that? And then it is 4 light years away dude? Its fiction, its common energy travel faster than light. Saitama grabbed a fking intangible portal with his bare hands,and opened a hole in the fabric of reality to go to another dimension just because he thought someone was talking about his head, do u really want to bing logic in that discussion? There is literally a giant hole in the space, and after saitama reverse casuality, that hole were fixed. That doesn't make sense saying any star were destroyed, the author drawed all that stuff as a joking? LOL.
@@DeoderantHater mash is strong, but saitama is on a whole other level, that wouldn't be even a match.
@@DeoderantHaterbro😐
Mob's lost brother vs Saitama's lost cousin
correction Saitama's lost child
True 😂
Who’s who???
@@didiumeh64 applies for both lol
@@GrayShrinei dont think saitama is his own cousin
From what I understand, Saitama has never never lost blood.
Edit: Let me clarify that I'm talking about post limiter removed Saitama.
yeah. saitama has never taken damage in the whole manga nor has he gotten tired
@@CaymenEditz a cat scratch made saitama bleed
he lost blood once to a normal cat
the mosquito?
@@Cygion_he never bleeds actually you can see the scratch mark but no blood and it disappears after plus it's was a gag scene which wasn't meant to be taken seriously
Everyone thinking serious punch is his strongest punch🤓
Death punch-🗿🍷🍷
Serious sneeze-🗿🍷🍷
zero punch????
“Strongest punch”
Proceeds to talk about the Serious *sneeze*
@@Somonewhodoesntunderstand omni-directional punch??????
“Fart”
Serious Ass Gas
You low balled Saitama so unbelievably hard in this video its insane
I definitely don’t think this video is a Saitama lowball.
There just wasn’t much point in explaining any of his potentially higher level scaling here.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Then Why did You Say It's Close? 🤔🤔🤔
Because the hypothetical, somewhat charitable interpretation of Mash featured in the video. Could definitely push a current Saitama, further than basically anyone else in OPM (short of Garou, Void, or God)
With Mash likely being somewhere between Lord Boros & CFM Garou. Although his exact placement depends on how you scale his multipliers.
Regardless? I’d say it’s definitely closer than most would think. Hence the title.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY M-m-m-m-MEAT RIDER bro is on mash the whole time
@@Tai_Ball ong tho saitama cooks him
one got highballed whilst the other got lowballed. lol
Bro made me pause the video when he said garou made saitama bleed. Bro did not make saitama bleed.
Yeah no, this video is beyond wrong man. Id recommend looking at other power scalers who do OPM content cause this is beyond lowball and has alot of stuff thats been debunked or was mistranslated.
Pretty much every higher interpretation for OPM God Tiers heavily relies on completely inconsistent material, or using punch squared- while ignoring everything else.
Things such as Star level Boros, Saitama not taking Damage from Garou, or Saitama having infinite power, all rely upon mistranslations and outside sources.
Punch squared on the other hand, is highly contentious? Because despite Murata being given literal infinite freedom, to destroy anything since he destroys the timeline. He never once claims stars, solar systems, or galaxies are in danger.
Even though Murata almost always explains the scale of destruction for their attacks (or gives us real life reference points) multiple times during this fight.
So IMO? Large Planet+ current Saitama, with a Star Level+ prime in the CFM Garou fight? Is honestly a pretty reasonable interpretation to me.
Obviously not saying you can't argue higher (since you can with any character) but for a median number? I wouldn't say it's too unfair.
Star lvl boros is inconsistent saitama has not taken any damage from garou through the whole fight you even said it your self or if your contradicting your self that it would have stated Saitama taken damage and saitama having infinite power is not far fetched as he could grow continuously through a fight with literally no end even thought it takes finite jumps these aren't really mistranslations.The punch squared is not contentious lol theirs a feat of phsycorochi cutting a continent on the earth but it was never stated it cut a continent so by your logic this is not a feat lol even in other series you have like naruto who has solar characters but have never seen destroy a planet much less and Dragon ball uni characters are fighting on earth doing little damage to the environment but they are uni cause the feats shown show bluntantly what happened,
Saitama is not large planetary he is multi solar the serious punch 2 was made by Saitama and garou both colliding their punches generating energy which blast states will shatter the planet but your debunk is that because blast said it was gonna shatter the planet its it could not destroy Star systems but after the energy was released it created a hole in space where star systems where and saitama even grown pass that stage
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Ill just do a video covering the inconsistencies since a comment thread would be pointless. I think Saitama is both the most wanked and lowballed character currently but even ignoring that, you wanked Mash off statements while ignoring inconsistencies as well. If youre gonna use the logic of reasonable scaling via statements or feats, you need to apply the same logic because this video shows that you have to reach to get Mash to a casual Saitama power level meanwhile Saitama has to be lowballed because its "inconsistent" when the reality is Saitama is extremely consistent unlike most the other S Class like Genos or Tatsumaki.
@@zerechan 💀
@@TUCKALMIGHTYI respect your opinion but to correct your hypothesis about mash vs Saitama.
Saitama negs
According to your statements
"Saitama not taking damage from garou is out of source"
If Saitama really took dmg then he would do a reaction such as ouch or ah. Saitama clearly shows no scratches or dmg except in gag situations.
Saitama does not have inf power but instead he has inf potential
Boros is star level due to his roaring star collapsing and guidebooks.
Another note I want to give is that some people are saying that Saitama took dmg because he spit and his eyes turned white while fighting with garou but that's stupid
9:01 Saitama took damage panel was from the opening page of the weekly releases. it's an editor comment. the volume doesn't have that, boros transforms to a much higher form sends saitama to the moon and saitama still has that goofy face meaning he is NOT damaged at all (add that with boros literally saying it wasn't even a fight)
9:15 Tatsumaki couldn't lift saitama or do anything to him even before he got bald (audiobook)
10:26 Garou literally took multiple serious punches when they fought on the moon next to Jupiter
13:00 Blast is literally worried about earth. doesn't mean it caps at earth. you yourself said that Gamma ray burst can destroy a planet the size of Jupiter and it wouldn't defeat saitama , but the serious punch square from a serious saitama can only damage earth ? per example : an attack can destroy your whole town but you'd be worried about your house more
13:12 so you take away this feat because simply the author wouldn't draw this feat this way ? go check the manga panel of reverse causality , when saitama time travels it literally shows the void forming again. why would the Mangaka bother to show simple light dots being reverted back if it's not important ?
13:23 that was a sneeze. not even a punch. if my sneeze can blow up a planet that is 11 times larger than earth in diametre only. my serious punch wouldn't be something crazy like solar system or galaxies? difference in attack potency between a punch and a sneeze is so large
these feats are performed by saitama before even evolving. check the expo graph (he didn't get a two or three times boost. the graph literally shows he get such a significant boost to the point that his past self is a fodder to him now)
you can really tell you read and watch Mashle but not one punch man. you didn't do enough research and just lowballed him to make mashle close to him somehow. for better grasp watch some of the opm powerscaling youtubers like professor fiction. yacine. satori. and Mrperfectcell
1.) Weekly releases are not non-canon. Adding some merit to the statement, even if it's not in the volume release.
2.) Audio books are not entirely consistent with manga/anime continuity, but this also has nothing to do with Saitama's max. Since the gap between Saitama with hair & w/o is undefined.
3.) Garou lost in zero punches during the main timeline.
4.) Blast protects the cosmos, so he likely wouldn't downplay the scale of an attack that threatens something as large as the Solar System, Galaxy, or Universe. It would be like a professional meteorologist saying, that a natural disaster is threat to your house-- as opposed to a city/providence wide scale of destruction. They logically just wouldn't downplay the threat like that. (Especially because this scene is a narrative device, for the readers, to understand the scale of this feat)
5.) Again, this is just supporting evidence for the wider claim. Murata has shown himself to be very knowledgable- and quite consistent- in terms of OPM's cosmology and scaling. Also, if Saitama is rewinding time, it would make sense why the light returns where it was- like literally everything else.
6.) The gap between a punch & sneeze irl, is something like 700x-- the gap between large planet level, and star level is a million times. So simple exponential multipliers, don't really let you climb the ranks that efficiently.
I read the OPM manga, and I've watched the anime twice through. So I definitely don't think my interpretation of Saitama is dramatically inconsistent with everything else shown to us in the series (since everything else, outside of this version of the punch squared calc, lines up with my thought processes here)
Those are just my thoughts though, hope this explained where I was coming from!
@@TUCKALMIGHTY
Unfortunately this didn't explain anything
1.) if you are a long reading fan you would know that the volume release is well revised and more credible than the weekly release. this is the case for every manga but especially for one punch man. best new example is the jjk chapter where it says ''miguel the man who matched satoru gojo'' or something like that. for opm alot of things changes in the volume release not just this. and forget even that. how does saitama take damage from the form before meteroric burst but doesn't take damage from meteroric burst ? boros himself said it was not even a fight
2.) how is the audiobook inconsistent ? it is canon. bring one example why it's not consistent. tatsumaki could not even move saitama before him going bald so her not being capable of it now is not that impressive and adds nothing to this video
3.) that is literally a straw man argument. you said no one was able to whitstand saitama's serious punches. check the fight with saitama in the moon. he took multiple of these
4.) blast literally came to protect Earth. that was the main point of him being there. you said the scene was a narrative device. but the giant hole is not ? this is such a felacious argument since as i said saitama while holding back can whitstand and stop earth busting attacks. but him angry and serious with someone equaling that can still only destroy earth?
5.) so what are those lights ? came from blast or what ? go read the fight of garou and saitama again. literally a panel shows galaxies and stars behind garou
6.) alright let's say that's the gab between a sneeze and a normal punch. what's the gab between a normal punch and another normal punch and again a serious punch ? you yourself seem to believe that saitama while serious with his serious punch is just as strong as saitama while holding back using his serious punch ? saitama's normal punches varies. he can knockout a human like snake or whatever his name is and not kill him. let's say that is 700x times a sneeze cause it's still a punch that can hurt a supernatural human. what about normal punches that destroys high dragon level monsters like Orochi . who with calcs (you seem to believe in calcs) has a dc of small planet. is that still a 700x times increase ? the multipliar is obviously much much larger than you think. the problem is you mentionned every mash variation of attack potency depends on the state he is in and not saitama
im not saying you are biased towards mash. this is just what happens when you are familiar with a series more than the other. watching the anime twice doesn't indicate you did enough research to back up your claim. thank you for replying i respect that
@@TUCKALMIGHTYEven the weaker Garou survived the "ZERO" punch, what are you talking about.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY audiobooks are literally written by the author himself, and you call them inconsistent while random quotes added by publishers for hype that got removed later you consider canon? What??
It was never stated Blast protects cosmos, he protects Earth, and fights God. It was literally stated that Blast comes when Earth will be in danger, if he protected cosmos in general he wouldn't even care about Earth
Try to sneeze at paper. You won't do shit to it. But with a punch, if you're strong enough you can break wood and bricks. Just imagine if someone could cut paper with a sneeze bruh
Great match ups but ensure you get your information accurate, because there's a lot of cap in what you said. Amongst them been Saitama took damage.@@TUCKALMIGHTY
Yeah, the battle is always going to start close and already knew the outcome with Saitama just getting exponentially stronger faster than Mash could unleash
Maybe mash could keep up for a few moments before Saitama outpaces him
@@same1 thatxs what I mean
@@same1lol no saitama just blatantly outscales him in every way
@@callisto1796mayhaps you forgot that mash in his last fight was
1 ultra supressed
2 without a heart
@@CERISTHEDEVsure mash was fast but without knowing the speed of other characters you cant say your favorite is faster because you said so
Both are massively faster than light speed
13:58 "seriously damage and draw blood"
i heard that and had to pause the video out of shock. if he takes damage from his own normal punch, then his serious punch would obliterate himself along with the person he’s punching. that just makes no sense
@@CaymenEditzit just means his punchs got more impact than his body can take lol
@@rimurutempest9733The impact is generated from his fists the energy cant somehow just dissipate it effects his surroundings and if a normal punch can somehow harm him then when saitama used a serious punch on boros the anime would've ended because the force generated from his fist would've blown him apart
@@rimurutempest9733 nah. if that were true then his hands would break every time he punches. since they don’t, it’s safe to assume that his durability is greater than or equal to his ap
@@CaymenEditz he didnt take any damage, its garaous armour/protective layer. You can see the EXACT same type of debree when Saitama punches Garou a few panels later
It was never close😂Saitama would destroy him
As a Saitama meat rider i can tell when a video lowballs or high balls Saitama quite clearly and i think we can unanimously agree that he lowballed Saitama to the ground and milked the living hell out of Mash poor dude
Saitama is so proud of his son! Fubuki is crying tears of Joy...she couldn't give him psychic abilities like Tatsumaki gave to their son Mob so, Mash getting his dad's insane prowers of strength and giving his old man a run for his money only if momentarily makes Fubuki & Saitama so proud as parents.🥲
Mob is not sad...He hates violence anyways....Really the Opposite of his parents Saitama and Tatsumaki. 😹
what is wrong with you
@@GoldenDread1002 ?????
@@Ticking-time-bomb what the actual hell did you write and why
@@GoldenDread1002 Better question what's bothering u from what I wrote, be specific. where does the joke not land for u exactly.
@@Ticking-time-bomb oh it's a joke... i thought you were being fr considering how many brainrotted kids are out there
you're down playing my boy saitama hard
Saitama Solo
cool
Saitama with hair solos
Saitama back when he was a single sperm in his fathers ball's solos
Saitama never took damage
Nah he has no chance against saitama if u look at the statistics
Bro lowballed saitama so hard
@@_.DarkAngel._ikr. he took every last statement for mash and took every single feat and milked it to the max but then spent like, 5 minutes “disproving” saitama’s galacy level feat and just making random assumptions that have no actual evidence to back it up. “redirecting light” my ass
@CaymenEditz the light redirection is actually a valid argument
Since the sparks from the blast and portals from blast and his crew likely to definitely redirected the light
@@jordon-anthonymyers4399 i mean, just because they could, why would they? what would they gain from only redirecting light and not actual destructive energy? i think it only makes sense if they either redirected the energy to one singular direction, or eliminated all of the energy except for in that direction. maybe i misunderstood your comment. lmk if i did
@CaymenEditz yeah ik what ur talking about
But wouldt the blast the redirecting light rays from countless stars? That would be like overpowering some levels of energy so since it eould be redirecting the light photons and/or destroy them from countless stars thst should pit it at solar system level although u could argue it would be star level or lower considering that everyone that was shown to be knocked away from the blast have flown with the same amount of power produced by the blast so ultimately
At max, it would be like star level(arguably solar system)
Meaning that saitama would ultimately be multi solar system and be like 4000+ times faster than light
saitama was so unbelievably lowballed here, imo mash would lose to a serious punch or two, not pushing saitama anywhere near as much as garou did
Normal Punch Negs
Tbh saitama was lowballed insanely low . He just threw away the serious punch squared feat and made it seemingly pointless
Serious punch squared is a two man feat thus its not saitama’s feat
@@beereythemeaddrinkinelf4281 pls think before you type saitama and garou gree exponentially in that fight not even linear and let’s assume they grew in a linear fashion they would have still surpassed that feat by the middle of the fight cause they grew many times over like many so it’s a feat one of them is capable of performing to a greater extent by the end of the fight 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ it’s like saying goku and beerus universe destruction is not a feat cause it was combined knowing fully well they surpass that power 100x over
@@beereythemeaddrinkinelf4281 still that punch was copy of saitama
I feel like any saitama matchup just ends up as “if you can’t kill him fast enough, saitama gets stronger and wins”
Very accurate!
If we're talking about his ability most of y'all are wrong about satiama, Saitama doesn't always surpass his opponents the reason he won that fight is that satiama had a higher multiplier then garou
@@xoutzzythat’s not actually the full context of it. His growth is based off who he’s fighting. Garuo had insane growth which made Saitamas growth even higher. No matter what he’ll always grow to math his opponents power. If he’s enraged then he’ll grow even faster cuz he won’t hold back.
The manga explicitly states saitama grew at that insane rate because he had an emotional outburst "unlikely anything he'd ever experienced"
@@Shireikai ok bro
no amount of up scaling mash strong mode with get to base cosmic garuo Tuck he’s a monster garuo victim
Nah, Web Comic Monster Garou is equal to Boros (by ONE’s own admission) so that version definitely loses.
And Manga Monster Garou, is also probably capping out around Planetary- via Platinum S Scaling.
Which probably isn’t enough for someone who bullied Planet level innocent zero, in base form.
Just my thoughts though. CFM Garou probably beats Mash lol.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY i’m talking bout garloye king monster garuo which is stronger then his awaken and evolved monster state
Facts
He didnt take damge during the fight with Boros nor Cosmic Garou, matter of fact he was holding back, even Boros said that saitam was still holding back after the end of there fight. I think he can put uo a fight to saitama but wont be able to deal damge to him. This goes same for Garou but he wasent holding back
I thinks its funny that dude said that saitama serious ² punch didnt destroyed the stars cuz it didnt destroyed anything from the solar system, since the whole point of blast changing the vector of the attack was to avoid just that. Plus when saitama came back in time, the hole was repaired, meaning he in fact destroyed all that stuff. Plus he haw exponential growth, so he is multy solar system to galaxy AT MINIMUM.
That guy is a mashmeatrider
Don't ever make a Saitama video again cuz all you do is down scale and low ball him, putting a galaxy character against a planetary character saying that the galaxy character would have somewhat trouble is false.
Even if Saitama was solar system level, a planetary dude has no chance.
You wanking mash is crazy.😮
mash is star level at most. if you say that saitama is star level then you’re literally just delusional
@@CaymenEditzsneezing away Jupiter has been calculated to star level, and that was before he farted his way to Garou, in that time is secure he became twice, trice, idk how many times stronger
@@CaymenEditz he literally is star you just highballing
@@drawforfuncount-uz1xo terra 3, so about alot of stronk
Stop meat riding mash mash stands no chance against saitama
Fr
That “redirecting the light”has to be the biggest yap
Just watched the other two videos like a half hour ago 😂. Thanks for part 3
Dude cooked too much meth.
Saitama accidentally solos the whole Mashle anime.
saitama never drew blood in garou vs saitama and in boros fight its very debatable that he took any damage and if he did it was probably a fuck ton of zeros
Bruh you had to hype up Mash’s power so much and downplay Saitama so hard just so you could say “It could hypothetically maybe possibly be a little bit close.” Like we all know it wouldn’t be close AT ALL Saitama would absolutely FLOOR him.
Were not going to talk about how satima gets stronger threw fighting
Actually, we are.
At the end of the video 💀
he did though. while i do think he massively lowballed saitama, he did indeed talk about the growth factor
@@TUCKALMIGHTYpretty he's talking about how he scales far above the feats which you low balled
wallahi you are cooked , never power scale again
Why do you always say that saitama was damaged or got drawn blood from? Its simply not true
You heavily downplayed saitama bruh wth, 😭, destroyed light??? The same argument which is downplayer using till this point, i thought no body uses that in 2024
Do you want the author to use the Newton's 3rd law and saitama and garou should not have landed on the moon but instead should have blown up the planet and must have landed to a different galaxies? Obv no, the author was intended to plan the fight within the Jupiter's moon and near Jupiter. The multipliers which were used for mash, can also be used in one punch man, a single a black sperm is capable of beating an a class hero, a few of them can harm off guard metal bat consistently, a single sperm count get upto island lvl, and with the 54 trillion multiplers, Platinum Sperm upto Planetary and higher, garou getting higher and higher one shotting ps the reaching at sage Centipede lvl, then one shotting him, mutating with new forms with one shot difference (10x) at server instances, you can get monster Garou QUITE EASILY large Planetary while upto the base line dwarf star lvl, boros' attack Narrativity (after the retcon of manga) was capable of blowing up a star and is consistent as even release formed boros must be stronger than any monster garou, you can get boros to star consistently, then comes how quite easily saitama one shotted boros' last attack
Cosmic Garou's GRB does have a small black hole. But the writer obv can't draw a earth size black hole to confirm it is a real black hole, that goes against the plot, that why THE AUTHOR EXPLICITLY stated that the GRB is the strongest Explosion in the universe and implied it yo be a real bh, making the attack baseline solar system lvl, you saying they destroyed light will be like saying SP^2 > GRB which is quite dumb, also why do blast need to state that its a galaxy buster attack?? 😭, he is a earthling and a hero who fights for earth, he only was intended to save the earth and thats why send it into the space without caring for the solar system or near planets of the solar system, no character can process that it is a galaxy buster attack in such an intense situation of the ounches getting collid without even watching the punch getting colloid, blast's team members came exactly at the time of sp^2, implied it is way higher than grb
As you said murata is a knowledgeable person, i will ask you why did he put the space panel and a hole with some sort of clouds around it and the hole being some sort of empty at the exact time of when saitama was reversing the causality, was those clouds like structure light🤔 lol, another instance, where tonariyojp who has officially authority of opm original raw manga publication in his wiki said “Garou now has gained the power to shake the whole universe” murata replied in the post "thank you” yes large planetary characters shaking the universe now. Ig its clear the lowest end of shaking the universe is multi solar - galaxy lvl feat, most likely near multi galaxy calc by the vsbw
Also garou getting scrared by Jupiter's explosion was not bcz of he caps there but bcz IT WAS FUCKING A SNEEZE 🤧, it is something which garou can't by his sneeze but saitama can by his sneeze, + the sneeze was never meant to be a attack, it went literally like nothing from garou's face, no sign of hurting, actually garou felt the large portion of the sneeze more than the Jupiter, yet he saw Jupiter blowing bcz of sneeze is what made him realise how strong the sneeze was, + the sneeze is calc to he star lvl+ and is accepted by vsbw
Hope you understand,
I never claimed punch squared destroyed light. I claimed that (like everything else in the range of the punch, and Blast’s space Hax) the light was dispersed from the area. Causing a black circle, in the exact proportions of the teleported area.
Otherwise? I pretty much agree with most of what you’re saying here? Aside from three points.
1.) Boros isn’t Star level, and was never retconned to Star Level. There is only one, mistranslated anime guide that suggests it, and nothing else (aside from naming fallacy)
2.) Most of your methods for upscaling Garou don’t make much sense to me. Murata telling someone “Thank You” doesn’t suddenly validate all their claims. And GRBs on average are not Solar system level (being closer to 10^44 joules).
So shaking the universe, or trying to scale Garou’s small GRB to a full sized one, just seems a bit silly to me.
3.) Narratively, The scale of destruction in this battle is pretty consistent throughout, if you simply ignore the weird galaxy lvl punch squared argument.
Garou wouldn’t be scared of Large Planet/Small Star level sneeze, if he could blow up Galaxies with a punch. Blast (as someone who protects the cosmos) likely wouldn’t downplay the scale of destruction, caused by punch squared.
And of course, the biggest reason? Murata literally resets the timeline post Garou fight. So there’s zero reason in or out of story? For their destructive output, not to be put on full display.
So the scale of Garou’s Black holes? GRB? Serious Sneeze? And everything else- should be very analogous to their upper limits IMO.
Just my thoughts though! I do still agree with the winner of the video being Saitama.
@@TUCKALMIGHTYthis is fiction it wouldn't make sense for it to be the same size as gamma-ray burst it was even compared to the real thing
@@TUCKALMIGHTYit can be translated to both star and planet so try again
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Garou's GRB is a real GRB. Can't use real life physics to disprove that its not a real one because the manga regularly ignores its existence. We have in universe explanation for what garou's powers can do and how it works, as well as proof of him demonstrating his abilities. Also pretty much the narrator explained what happened.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY imo they are only large because they are generated by literaly super masive stars that are usually hundreds of times bigger than our sun, the star dies, explodes (or gets eaten by a black hole) and liberates a mind blowing amount of energy like a fucking laser, but its only that big because of the initial size of the celestial object that generates it
garou could have theoretically generated a really small GRB that still has the power of a real one in the amount of energy being liberated and the heat and presure of it just smaller and more concentrated (which would make it even more powerful BTW), of course the amount of power of a GRB would have burned down the atmosphere and cracked the crust minimun but this is one punch man where saitama deflected a planet destroying blast of pure energy and no one even noticed, the serious punch would have literaly thrown the atmosphere into space yet it only parted the clouds
Nice video, watched the whole way, good battle indeed, great one 👍💯
Mash vs saitama IS NOT CLOSE lol😂
At the first part of the fight its close but at the end its not close, that's just the facts
@@Koin00no. mash is at best planetary maybe lower. saitama has consistent galaxy feats and higher
@@Koin00mash is at most star level. saitama is at most universal. it’s not close at the fucking start
@@CaymenEditz give me one universal feat of saitama lol, the wanking you guys put saitama through is the same as bleach fans, so ridiculous
@@CaymenEditzthere’s no star level feats in mashle so stop wanking him he’s at most continental to planetary where the fuck did you get star from and I read the whole manga so stop spouting that bullshit
This video is actually hella well made. I do disagree at some points but its really well made. Good job, You deserve more for these quality videos
Bruh wtf are talking you about? Saitama took damage bcz he got dirt and scratches on his body? So scratch means damage. So where's the blood? Both in the manga and anime? Give me an episode or chapter of Saitama ever bleeding, let alone taking any damage to which he even said 'ouch' to any damage that ever mattered! Otherwise this Headcanon of yours is quite strong.
Bruh what are you smoking? Those screenshots you showed are simply dirt and debris and little bits of Garous armor breaking apart. Infact many believed that, that was blood and Saitama took damage when the leaks came out. But in the next panels he is perfectly fine and without any damage. You just took one page where it "looked" like saitama took damage and "Factually" stating he took damage. Wtf😂
Chapter 165, he literally says he got scratched (which is damage)
In the following chapters 167 & 168, he also gets hurt by multiple serious punches. And is stated equal to CFM Garou.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY This makes me accept that Saitama has healing powers. Like Saitama before time travel or at the moment of time travel was shining like mirror and bulked up a lot(coz he was lot stronger at the moment).
I mean why not...Saitama is literally meant to be a invincible or unkillable character. He's definitely up there near at the level of gag character.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY No, Saitama in my recollection only got hurt once when he first tasted his own punch...than on he didn't get hurt even though Garou matched him in power he ate all his own lvl punches...so I think just like how his strength grows exponentially, his defense grows at a insanely much faster rate than that as he could tank his own full punch seconds after landing a hit. This also confirms the take where the author said that Saitama grows every seconds and that a past 1 second Saitama would always lose to the current Saitama. He grows in strength even when he's not fighting but it is more pogressive and when he is pushed it explodes...it's basically a cheat he has to always stay on top of his opponents in Strength, speed, defense etc...Basically a Gojo infinity wall bullcrap just different.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY Bruh those are more dirt than scratches and he is talking about his clothes more than himself! Saitama is more worried about his clothes! But and even if they are scratches, not a single drop of blood has come out of it, let alone the fact in the vey next panel his "Scratches" around his nose are magically gone! Same with 167. The last panel of saitama getting punched is literally Garaou's armour falling off. Why do i say this? Literally look at the panel above of Garou. His armour is breaking apart and turning into dust!
Not to mention 168 Saitama is perfectly fine with no visible damage, let alone a drop of blood whereas Garous mouth and nose is full of blood! But where did all of saitama's "damage" go? Vanished? Where are his blood marks like Garou frothing blood at his mouth? Vanish?
As far as we know Saitama doesn't have any healing properties so If Saitama took damage just like Garou then why is Garou is the only one bleeding from his wounds and Saitama is perfectly fine with "Scratches" here and there? He should be bleeding as well even if only a little, afterall according to you Saitama took "equal" damage, but even if it is not equal, atleast there there should be a little blood on his face right?
Don't make your headcanon and pass it as actual canon bro.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY tf? Saying that Saitama took serious damage when all he did was bleed a little bit is very wrong and it quite annoying
seccond time i got recconmended your channel
Always glad to see returning viewers, hope this video made the wait worthwhile!
I don’t wanna hear anyone say someone is REMOTELY close to saitama, bro accidentally sneezed off the whole gaseous outer layer of Jupiter, now imagine what a sneeze is compared to a punch, and I want you to imagine what the difference is, if bro sneezed and destroyed a planet, I argue he could punch and destroy a galaxy.
Supreme author from scp is remotely close to saitama
bra saitama loses to allot of the higher tier characters
@@223sfa6 name one time he lost in a comparison video
@@Sheriff_of_this_townYou’re seriously basing your knowledge of Saitama’s strength in a comparison video without you doing your own research? I could list plenty of Low Tier DC Characters that would fold him.
Is the strongest dc character not superman? And last I checked saitama claps superman
only time saitama had bleed or blood was dream saitama
Saitama wins no diff because of two things
-Exponential growth where if he fight somebody who is stronger he might grow exponentially strong and soon surpasses his opponent.
-Power mimicry just look at all the Mash abilities and just copy it like he did with Copying literal time traveling technique of Garou by looking at it once.
Ah yes, a galaxy or...now universal person vs a guy who from what i seen is planetary at max....the title is def clickbait and no way he is between boros in strenght lol, boros could destroy a planet in one blast
Saitama
And to add on...he never got seriously hurt by his own serious punch, I never seen him draw blood but maybe he had a bloody nose no idea, but no way is mash hurting him at all with a punch, your saying he could just...use a galaxy+ punch?????
@@kkisthebomb4205 like how TF did he get saitama to star level? If he didn't want to call saitama galaxy level the destruction him and garou made with the serious punch 2x is multi solar system at the lowest. That same attack is multi galaxy at best. Mash stands to chance at all.
I think that mash would be a way better person to train with Saitama, rather than to fight him since he already pretty much has years of experience, it won’t be too hard to start with saitamas training and then, when mash reaches his full potential, they fight
Love your vids
Always glad to hear it!
@@TUCKALMIGHTY SOOOOOOOO, do you have any plans for Medaka?~
we talking bout the same saitama who sneezed out jupiter, right?
Not his best feat
@Narcissisthe still beat mash with no difficulty ic_pyschotic
imagine thinking garou drew blood from saitama lmao this guy is soooooo smart
Crazy how even an insanely lowballed saitama no-diffs highballed Mash. 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
i dont think the bracelet still matter after the god buff because it's like you holding a feather on your hand while fighting so that's why he doesnt unequip the weight while fighting innocent 0
saitama never bleed or had any blood took out of him this video is just wrong with some stuff
bros downplaying the living heck out of saitama
Even if he loses, its huge to compare him to Saitama
i can compare whoever tf i want to saitama. doesn’t make it impressive
This video is extremely biased it wanks mash and downplays the hell out of saitama, mash being compared to saitama doesn't mean he's anywhere close to saitama.
Mighty: Who's stronger? Him, or you?
Saitama: Well, if Mash regained all his power, he might give me a little trouble.
Mighty: But would you lose?
Saitama: Nah, I'd win.
Bro really decided to take the lowest interpretations of Saitama and the highest interpretations of Mash to say "this fight might he closer than you think"
You said mashle has a full potential, but saitama has limitless potential
Correct.
you did a great job at making it seem close, but it rly isn’t.
Bro saitama vs mash is not even a little close
His sneeze became so unbelievably strong that it got past the fact space is a vacumm and created wind in fuckiing space thats kinda stupid
Alright, I suppose it's my turn to say this, but the "He took damage" panel is actually false, he did not take any damage whatsoever, I don't remember if it was a mistranslation or just a plot hole, but he has never taken any damage throughout the whole series, even considering the consecutive normal punches exchanged from Garou and Saitama, he did not take any damage whatsoever nor was that blood, it was simply dirt on his face or dust after falling through the ground, so his durability is consistently higher than his strength by an unknwon ammount, with that said, I would say that Mash's Scaling and Saitama's are pretty reasonable in your video considered what we have seen of the two
he has never taken damage nor gotten fatigued in the entire manga
@@CaymenEditz precisely
@@CaymenEditzHe got fatigued in the anime, and he’s also taken damage from a cat in the manga, but that’s just comedy.
Rest in Cream Puff mash, you've earned it 🫡
The thing here is that Baldy is invulnerable. Saitama take those punches everytime because he know he'll survive. And mash, although have phenomenal strength, he's not as tough as baldy
In my opinion, i dont think removing the bracelets would have mattered after he powered up as I assume he would have been so strong that the weights didnt affect him
Man you are so underrated you do really good videos
Thanks, we always appreciate the hype!
9:09 that is not credible since that’s not in the official manga
It’s in the official manga, just not the volume release.
@@TUCKALMIGHTY You use the latest chapter covers, not old ones this is common knowledge and common sense.
You have a hidden talent in powerscaling...
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND JESUS KEEP IT HIDDEN AND LOCKED AWAY IN A LITTLE BOX SENT IN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PACIFIC OCEAN AND HAVE IT GUARDED BY GOD HIMSELF
You paint a pretty picture. I'd be all about reading/watching any story wherein these two locked horns.
"stand proud mash you are strong"
You overcooked so hard 😭
Bro got crucified in his own comment section
Saitama took no damage against Boros he was just not at the same level against Garou
They are two paraody characters, that have infinite power, so as much as I don't want to say this. It would end in a tie. Which is the most likely outcome, both having a good time, and going to eat creampuffs and going shopping afterwards. The only problem with these two fighting is how much of the universe they would destroy if they went all out. If you don't understand how Mash is so strong, then you most likely don't understand how overpowered Saitama is, he is written to never lose. The real measure of Saitama's power will come when eventually he fights his own God in his own universe. Mash pretty much beats almost everyone in anime, Maybe only a few others who could rival him and Saitama, the main one being Sun-Jin -Woo. Anyway great video. Really enjoy this channel, your editing is top tier. Also what fan animation video is the Blast clip from? as that was epic. Cheers.
just a question why did you say the "true cap of saitamas serious punch" even though he kept scaling during the fight and infinitely scales
It was not really blood if it was really blood then, saitama will be bleeding and saitama even loose himself while fighting garou
People always wonder if x character can beat Saitama, but they often forget the real question.
Can that character, catch a mosquito?
i dont think you understand, saitama is equal to god... Mash gets his power from god, theyre not the same
Saitamas sneeze would turn Mash into space dust.
Great video, any thoughts making Griffith/Femto (Berserk) vs Makima (Chainsaw Man)
I’ve definitely considered making more Chainsaw Man content for the movie’s release.
So doing a matchup like this would definitely be cool!
no way mash is beating saitama, but it's suprising how strong mash could physically get
THE GLAZING IS CRAZY
the words of "he can always throw another, and when he does he gets stronger" go so fokin hard
I havent done the calculations myself but according to what ive seen the rate at which saitama actually grows is so fast that saitama would be incomparably stronger than mash in seconds
This video downplayed saitama so much
I’m just gonna say whatever everyone else is thinking about 90% of the information of Saitama it’s wrong or just completely made up so I’m just gonna put that out there just so people don’t get misinformed about this
actual ending, both of them sit down to eat cream puffs
Saitama: my son has hair?
Mash:my dad has a bald head?
Tastumaki: mash im your my son now...
(Once you realized💀)
ITS NOT MASH DOES NOT HAVE SOLAR SYSTEM LEVEL FEATS
I showed four panels of people saying Earth was doomed, and another of the planet literally about to be destroyed by the Death Ball.
Not sure how much more blatantly planetary someone could get, without just deleting Earth lol.
Edit: Replied before edit, my bad. Mash isn’t Solar.
had to fix after he showed that feat but still
@@TUCKALMIGHTYdestroying one planet doesn’t make someone solar system level. there’s a star and multiple planets in a solar system.
@@TUCKALMIGHTYbro does not know how to scale stop bro you’re making yourself look worse
The original comment said Planetary Feats. Not Solar System feats.
Literally just read the replies above yours guys, makes you look a little goofy ignoring context like that lol.
doubt, saitama never got injured in his battles
saitama has never been injured nor fatigued in any of his fights
Chapter 165, Saitama literally says he was “scratched” by Garou. In chapter 166 through 168, it’s shown that CFM Garou is basically equal to pre-amp Saitama. And thusly, can harm him.
@@TUCKALMIGHTYtheir are different translation that's not accurate he never got scratched even if he got scratched that's not damage
@@TUCKALMIGHTY i just read all of chapter 165 on shonen jump. there was no statement of garou scratching saitama. the only part where it slightly implies that saitama was damaged was the last panel, but that could easily be chalked to garou’s armor chipping. the “scratched statement “ was probably just an issue with the translation. for the 166-168 argument where garou is shown to be equal, this doesn’t make any sense. if he was truly equal, then he’d force saitama to use his other hand. also saitama made a promise to tareo not to kill garou. he also never explicitly said that he wanted to kill garou, he just said that he wanted to beat the shit out of him
@WhistleMiner The other translations are inaccurate because “getting scratched” is referring back to a comment Saitama said to Tareo a few chapters prior.
Where he promised that he “wouldn’t get hurt” but in chapter 165, he says that he fails the promise. Which means? He took damage, in his own eyes.
Can he beat goku tho?
Yes
Mashle or saitama? @@4Kslimy
Remember that Saitama and Garos power grew at an accelerated rate to achieve those planet busting moves. I love Marshle but he had a one time boost, albeit limited, I doubt his full strength surprised Saitamas’ apparent limitlessly accelerating rate of growth. It’s cute as F but it was never close. 😅
This video obviously biased,you give all mash feats while lowballing saitama so hard
this is bob, for each like he grows one year older 🔫💀🖕
Tbh now that I think of it, they have the same workout routine
Man it’s not close feat for feat there’s nothing mash can do stop downplaying the OPM verse there’s consistently scaling of the verse that you are fucking up
The Fusion of Future Saitama and his past self is also a power up
What if Saitama at the end of the series ends up making multiple universes with a punch .like a new big bang. And sees mash mob in a multiverse. As versions of him self.
AND TO ADD ON he was unhappy because HIS FRIEND DIED and ALL THE HEROES so he would be happy in the fight...if mash was galaxy or higher :/ you need to do more research, i can tell you just looked at the most popular scenes once for saitama, but mash you actually watch, can easily tell
this video is a great example of confirmation bias. he hard focused all of the mash feats and statements and milked them to their full potential and highballed mash to the highest he could without going to a mental asylum, but just grazed over saitama’s feats and massively lowballed him. the segment for saitama was so small that he didn’t even show any speed feats
I’ve seen the entire OPM anime twice, and I read the manga. I definitely didn’t just pick out popular scenes, and even went out of my way to include feats like the Black hole cover page & recent-ish Tatsumaki fight. So? Aside from just including irrelevant info, I’m not sure what else I should’ve mentioned.
As for the confirmation basis argument? I find it kind of silly, because the entire point of this video. Is to show that the fight is “closer” than you think.
So obviously I’m going to talk more about the lesser known character. Since everyone already has a good idea of Saitama’s level.
@@TUCKALMIGHTYits not closer than we think one person just blatantly out scales the other multi galaxy and if u wanna low ball multi solar (lets ignore the fact that saitama exponentially after Said feat meaning he scales hug her) vs planetary how is that close?
@@TUCKALMIGHTY ''closer'' would be like at least stronger then boros and almost as strong as cosmic garou or sm along the lines, you're making it sound like mash has a chance to win, also the black hole is fake LOL, it's legit just a cover it doesn't mean crap if you cover it, so like if goku in the cover does a 10d feat, is that canon now? or let's say gojo just rips the manga panel in the cover he's now like omnipotent being? no i don't think so, also tatsumaki fight doesn't mean squat, it was the most recent fight aside from blast vs void rn, you made his punch seem like it's somehow...only earth lvl!?!?!? it put a hole in the UNIVERSE, that's galaxy+ type crap don't lowball it by blast saying it could shatter the earth, ofc he said that cuz it could kill the earth and was worried about it more then the universe cuz everyone would die, so he panics and only talks about the earth and redirects it away from the solar system cuz he knows it'll destroy anything in it's path (the sun and jupiter included)
@@TUCKALMIGHTYmash just seems like your favorite character due due to the fact you kept lowballing Saitama feat just to make the fight seem closer than it actually was lol which makes u biased
thank you for the video, it is actually closer than i think
all things considered mash would be closer to garou than saitama if we try to scale mash's full power in our head.
the end of arc is where i stop the measuring tho, as both garou arc and mash mainline is closed with character suddenly gaining infinite power, which is the whole point of this genre.
if we assume peak saitama on screen is when he gets hit (without considering the sneeze), he is still holding back, as he is fighting with one hand, and the fight becomes philosophical.
at that point saitama is choosing to get hit while having the ability to protect genos' core from the hit.
so 2 extra phase after god mash, i think the most comparable feat would be that in final form mash could probably create gamma ray burst like garou, which is not enough to get a "actually" actually serious saitama.
The only flaw with this video is you were talking about mashes best feats and saitamas lowest feats or lowballing them and you forgot the fact saitama was holding back during the fight using only one hand while trying not to break genoses core and during the fight it’s explained that saitama grows increasingly fast angainst opponents his level so mash would only last a few minutes before losing