If you noticed, they reduced the BASE SL multiplier, making any subsequent multipliers pointless. They did it to everything, including premiums, and 100k SL ground games have been chopped down to 60k for making the same effort. Everything has had a 25%-40% cut because the base SL multipliers have been cut from, say, 4.0 to 2.0. If you know how to do math, that reduces percentage increase from boosters that much more because the base number of your equation is that much lower, even that 50% premium account boost doesn’t help nearly as much or not at all now. What’s the point of paying for premium when we aren’t even breaking even now in most cases?!?! They didn’t even mention this knock in SL rewards at all in the economy forum post, only mentioning Costs and RP multiplier modifications. This attempt at a shadow nerf to the core Sl modifier needs to be brought to attention. All those people who bought Premium vehicles during the sales just for this to happen weeks later have been ROBBED because they have been lied too. This affects everyone
They felt that only a few players felt that the revenue was reduced In fact, all people feel that the benefits are reduced. BVVD unwilling to admit mistakes
What a cool looking tank ! Thanks for making it harder for all players to play! You increased the grind for the tank and also made it unaffordable to play without paying for premium time!
Gaijin, I must be honest. I don’t like the direction the game is heading with the economy changes, really scares off new players and punishes older players
@@thewrongpilot9693 so it’s ok that US players have to use their 1998 tech M1A2 Sep against a 2014 tech 2A7? All non-US nations (except France’s XII) have top tier tanks that are produced after 2010, yet US is still stuck with a pre-2000 tech tank that has incorrectly modeled turret armor which should be more effective than M1A1 HC due to the upgraded 3rd gen depleted uranium armor. Guess no one wants US to have equally nice things huh?
@@TinyBearTim anything is better than gaijin. Gaijin is actively undermining the game and trying to alienate his own playerbase with totally out of touch changes to the game and morons who "manage" the forums
Cool tanks, I would've surely found it very distasteful to have extra tanks to have to research despite them being fouldered before, adding more vehicles to the painful grind in order to get to the things that I'd also like to play, additioning tens of extra hours of battles to reach em. It surely would.
Wow, what a cool tank! Thank god you guys implemented changes to low tiers that unfoldered numerous vehicles so new players have to grind more than ever before to get it :)
@@arroyo5802 its litteraly the opposite of what needs to happen, some of the tech trees have so many more vehicles compared to others, and so many of them are similar... we need more groups/folders, not less...
Research costs are down across the board and low tier vehicles are piss easy to grind through. The panzer 38 t is 2900 research points...that's ONE good game or 10 games at most for a new player who does terribly. You people will find reasons to complain about everything.
Wow, Gaijin! What a good tank! I really wish you guys made the economy even worse for average players! I really wish you guys made it impossible to play for lower tier players! 😊
Always enjoying a economy change in the game that puts the player base at a great disadvantage! I don't even need to buy any more premium time. Thank you Gaijin for taking caring so much about us! It's greatly appreciated! :)
God am I glad I already have all the low tier and most mid tier vehicles in the game, I can’t imagine trying to grind after all these new unwanted, unasked for and unnecessary changes
The fact that the first comments here are talking about the economy changes is interesting. I mean, they’re not wrong, with all the new changes, how are any new players even supposed to get here? Spend money, right? That’s the only option left, buy prem account or buy the prem 2a4.
gaijin if you want to save your game look at the comments here and listen to you're player base. Otherwise you gonna kill off the game with recent economy change
The game is unplayable right now. Increasing the repair cost and lowering the SL income... new players gonna left the game at rank III. Yeah, Leopard 2 are nice... but there is no one farming 3 years to play it, you will see it. Top tier is going to be just a bunch of noobs in premium tanks leaving the game after one rush+die and tech tree players are gona leave the game as well because of that. You are killing your own game, well done...
To all the players of War Thunder: I believe everyone has noticed the recent changes in the in-game economy, whether it's for naval, ground, air battles, AB, RB, or SB. Gaijin is continuously pushing the boundaries and testing the limits of its players. If you are familiar with the game "Escape from Tarkov," you probably know the consequences when game developers constantly provoke their player base. As players of this game, we contribute to its activity, and in theory, Gaijin should appreciate each and every one of us who continues to support and encourage this game. However, Gaijin keeps pushing the boundaries and exploiting each and every one of us. This recent economic change is not just a simple adjustment; Gaijin is gradually making it clear that if you don't pay for this game, you don't deserve to play it. I implore every player here to bravely stand up and resist this behavior. Gaijin has now infringed upon our rights as players, and we cannot, and should not, let Gaijin continue to exploit us in the future. It is time for us players to unite and stand together. We should be a collective, a class, opposing Gaijin's exploitation and oppression towards us. We are here to enjoy this game, to find joy in it, and we should not be working for Gaijin. I hope that each player will save and spread this message. This post will undoubtedly be deleted, but we should copy it, share it, on any platform, anywhere that allows us to make our voices heard. Fellow warriors, let's fight for our future. Stay strong! If you are willing, you can sign below. We stand as one! -From a player on Earth, Liliya
What are you expecting? 2a7? That wasn't even available 10 years ago. Some nations should get a new mbt that's not from the 80s first instead of adding new ones to nations that have 2000 era mbts
The T-80BVM enter service in 2018. The Challenger 2 “black night” was unveiled in 2018. The Type 10 entered service in 2012. The ZTZ-99A entered service in 2011. The Ariete AMV started trials in 2021. The Leclerc SXXI entered service in 2003. STRV-122B PLSS entered service in 2002. The Merkava Mk 4M entered service in 2011. The leopard 2A6 entered service in 2001 And the M1A2 SEP V1 entered service in 1999.
What a cool game. It would be a pity if I stopped playing it due to horrible economy and developers who make the game more and more toxic with every update. I'm so glad they are listening to playerbase, we couldn't ask for anything better than making repair cost higher and SL and RP multipliers lower to the point where the game is barely playable even if you pay to play!
Canada has been using the Leopard for decades. I remember shipping track, transmissions, engines regularly. It made upgrades and maintenance easier since we always had a battalion stationed on our NATO base in Germany. Had a few chances to take rides in them as a kid, awesome machines.
Would be nice if the 2A5/6/STRV122's didn't have the fictional nerf to the mantlet and inner cheek composites and the increased spalling on the mantlet -_- Germany is also really REALLY in need of a new top tier MBT. the 2PL was the last rank 7 vehicle Germany received and that was OVER 2 years ago...
I love whey you say "Would be nice if the 2A5/6/STRV122's didn't have the fictional nerf to the mantlet and inner cheek composites" as if you knew how much armor the leo2 has in that part lol
and sweden has now more Leo2 than GER which is mostly due to both US and RU mains still complaining that germany gets all the good stuff. even tho if you look back at the change logs I would like to be shown where GER got all that cause I see about 8 RU and 6 US high tier very capable vehicles only on ground while german had 1. and sweden got 6 Leo2s but GER is still so OP why does no one say anything about SWEDEN ? and I don't even wanna start on the Premiums the Russians get on ground and the US in the Air while germany... well..
@@asukahasegawa why ? they nerfed them long ago and Sweden got more of them than the country developing them ? so why is it no problem when sweden gets more and better ones ?
As an ardent War Thunder player with over 6700 hours invested in the game, I find myself deeply unsettled by the recent changes. Over the years, I've maintained a premium account and have invested considerably in Golden Eagles vehicles and bundle purchases. Yet, my core fascination lies with the technologically diverse and well-structured tech-tree vehicles, despite the significant investments made in the premium ones. If we were to approximate this in ratios, my vehicle collection would stand at a rough 9:1 split between tech-tree and premium vehicles. However, this doesn't proportionately translate to my gameplay time, as at most, the ratio stands at 8:2, and not a 7:3 or even a 5:5 split. Unfortunately, the recent changes that were supposedly implemented to balance gameplay fairness - nerfing the benefits of high-yield vehicles and boosting low-yield ones - have, in reality, reduced the overall rewards for regular players post-vehicle repairs. Previously, as a premium account holder, I didn't need to play premium vehicles specifically to gather enough Silver Lions (SL) for vehicle repair costs, to buy new tech-tree vehicles or upgrade my favorite ones to the expert crew level. However, these changes have forced me to reallocate my time and energy to premium vehicles that I have outgrown, merely to earn additional SL. If not, I'd merely be breaking even after paying repair costs, unable to afford new tech-tree vehicles or expert crew upgrades. This change is particularly disheartening as it inhibits my freedom to explore the tech-tree vehicles that I genuinely enjoy. Imagine the plight of those without premium accounts, who now must exhibit above-average gameplay just to stay afloat, with the looming risk of bankruptcy from one bad game. It's crucial to highlight that even if top-tier players have a surplus of Silver Lions, it wouldn't cause any severe issues that warrant a decrease in their income. Conversely, the reduction in rewards greatly affects middle and lower-tier players. They are forced to spend more time playing premium vehicles or familiar tech-tree vehicles before they can afford new ones, gravely impacting their gaming experience. While I understand and accept the income redistribution from high-efficiency to low-efficiency vehicles, I strongly urge for a substantial decrease in all vehicle repair costs. Failing this, we risk dampening players' enthusiasm, promoting overly conservative gameplay, reducing playtime, and potentially fostering a rise in the use of scripts and hacks. The current controversy evokes memories of the "free repair kits and fire extinguishers" debate from years past. The significant reduction in research points required for these items drastically improved the gaming experience and boosted player enthusiasm. Trusting in the developers' respect for player experience and my belief in the game's upward trajectory, I purchased more high-BR packages following that change. Now, facing this new controversy, I hope that the developers will once again make the right decision, PLS DONT DISAPPOINT US.😿
Honestly they already have disappointed us they show their true colours now not as developers of what is a good game at heart but just money hungry suits doing everything than can to destroy and alienate their games community and then instead of owing up to it they try to hide behind statements that try to blame the community saying its our fault for not understanding what they mean. They don't care that players are unhappy with the recent changes they will do what they always do hide until it either disappears or gets to a point where they have to do something about it usually that would involved empty words and empty promises.
Add the 2a7 with a V upgrade module, it would just be an strv122 but with a bigger gun and better thermals, and the dm73 has almost the exact same pen as the dm63 so it wouldn’t be changing much
I like the Leopard 2A7, A7V and A7A1... wonder when we will finally see those in game, after all Russia has 3 times the amount of top tier MBTs in the tech tree.
Leo 2 PSO was leaked some time ago but i didnt saw any new Leo in the new update trailer... Also since sweden now is better then germany its about time for the german tech tree to get least one new Leopard 2 above the current 2 a6.
@@Asgar1205 irl the additional armor isnt just some useless weight but gaijin will defenitly make it seem like some useless weight. The only real upgrade is probably the 50 cal gun
I believe everyone has noticed the recent changes in the in-game economy, whether it's for naval, ground, air battles, AB, RB, or SB. Gaijin is continuously pushing the boundaries and testing the limits of its players. If you are familiar with the game "Escape from Tarkov,you probably know the consequences when game developers constantly provoke their player base. As players of this game, we contribute to its activity, and in theory, Gaijin should appreciate each and every one of us who continues to support and encourage this game. However, Gaijin keeps pushing the boundaries and exploiting each and every one of us. This recent economic change is not just a simple adjustment; Gaijin is gradually making it clear that if you don't pay for this game, you don't deserve to play it. I implore every player here to bravely stand up and resist this behavior. Gaijin has now infringed upon our rights as players, and we cannot, and should not, let Gaijin continue to exploit us in the future. It is time for us players to unite and stand together. We should be a collective, a class, opposing Gaijin's exploitation and oppression towards us. We are here to enjoy this game,to find joy in it, and we should not be working for Gaijin. I hope that each player will save and spread this message. This post will undoubtedly be deleted, but we should copy it, share it, on any platform, anywhere that allows us to make our voices heard. Fellow warriors, loto fabt forour futura Stav otronel
To research and buy 2a5, I earned SL by riding only premium leo 1 and tam2ip, and 2a6 research has just been completed! I also have to go on a hard journey to earn SL.
Would have grinded it and played it if it wasn't for the high repair cost on this economy change. Uninstalled until further improvement on the economy.
Only 3 top tier competetive tt mbts (counting in the PL) might not be competetive enough these days so yeah, Germany should at least get one more top tier mbt.
Ah yes "You still need to aim for weakspots" Meanwhile BVM can shoot you anywhere but turret cheeks. We need DM33 for leo 2a4. We need a new top tier leopard.
LOL bvm can't pen turret of the leo2 a5 and 6 I'm currently not sure but does the leo2 a4 not have DM 33, if not yea it is needed. At the same time would be to strong on current br
@@M0LOCK 2A6 doesn't need it since DM53 and DM63 share the exact same penetration values. It wouldn't change a thing for Leopard 2A6. And 2A6 used DM33 and DM53 historically and received DM63 later afaik.
Yeah great, so when are Leopard 2s going to receive a proper hull armor(yeah all Leopard 2s in the game use the same base composite armor from 1979) and good thermals?It's crazy that how a tank like Leopard 2A6,a 20-25 year old variant so not that old, uses Gen 1 thermals wtf Gaijin??
i get you want to scream at gaijin, and i wouldnt stop you from doing that becuz gaijin deserve to be shouted at, but the 2a5/6 actually have better hull armor by like 50 mm KE source: just go look at it in the Protection viewer
@@klaustan1817 Honestly, that 50mm + dosen't add that much, they still penetrate the hull quite easily, turret is like the only strong point, but i get ya
It's good that you reverted the horrible economy change, don't remember that of course it's your game, but if your game is empty from player it's useless. I understand it's a F2P game, but sometime it's too grindy, and if on top of that you **** up people who buy premium or premium vehicles by lowing their reward, they wont buy something ever again.
If you put the same effort into making the economy more player friendly as you do with these useless videos, you'd have much more players. This company could really use a new lead
I haven't touched the German leopards since new power the STRV122B and the addition of the Finish 2A6 means just go play sweden it's a better nation Sweden is literally just Germany but better untill tanks like the 2A7 are added and I don't want that it'd be quite op but untill then if you want leopards go play sweden
I know that you guys aren't the developers but i dont know where else i would say this: Please bring back the Flakpanzer 341 as a event vehicle or something, cause it was so cool!
Gaijin trying to milk the game more and more but they have to realise the thin rope they are standing on is going to be thinner and thinner everyday until it will break definetly.
The moment of victory is still away. What we've achieved is only half a victory. How many incomprehensible steps have been taken so far. From statistical updates, developers who have no affection for games, to executives who are only bent on squeezing users' wallets, not developing good games. We have to remember that it wasn't just the loss of the goods that we lost in this patch. Ask for more. Let the scenes remain as brilliant old memories breathe again. Melt the memories of incomprehensible suffering into resistance. We're almost at the moment of victory. If we do a little more, we win. A little more push and we win. Let's cheer up one more step at a time until freedom is finally restored.
Can you fix leopard 2 underperforming armor? Like hull KE/CHE multipliers or 2a4 gun shield which has 420mm thickness, not 240mm as we have in the game. Also since 2a4 is 10.3, give Dm33 bc 400mm when facing 11.3 BR is a joke.
Ten years.. Ten long years I've fought... Through every theatre, Since the dawn of machine. Be it by Air, Land or Sea. Grinding my way through endless tech trees In the name of the Snail.. So many fallen brethren but the sacrifice was worth it, For we had value. The Great Snail now chooses to turn his back on us! He calls US the people who MADE him worthless! He demands we sacrifice our happiness, time, money, basic value and finally life itself for NOTHING. The Snail has been corrupted by his greed and now rejoices in our deaths, Our suffering. For it makes him more money. I've Bathed in the golden light of the snail for ten long years a loyal servant.. The light is tainted, The Old Guard and Faithful Warriors are few and far. What have you become.. I'm tired. So tired..
2:16 "with Soviet tanks, aim for the centre of mass, where the auto-loader racks are stored..." well in game, that's how you'll meet any T-64 or T-72 or T-80. The first shot you're gonna hit its lower front plate, the fuel tank exploded without starting any fire, the Soviet tank is fine. The second shot, you hit thecentre of the lower front plate, the APFSDS round passes right through the driver, the driver turned yellow, and the dart somehow got around the full ammo rack and destroyed the engine, nobody died in the Soviet tank. The third shot, you're gonna hit the turret ring, and the ring and the ring only turned red, everything else in the Soviet tank is untouched. Cool, you've sucessfully experienced something even worse than the RNGesus from World of Tanks, it's called the Snail s hitbox. :D
If you noticed, they reduced the BASE SL multiplier, making any subsequent multipliers pointless. They did it to everything, including premiums, and 100k SL ground games have been chopped down to 60k for making the same effort. Everything has had a 25%-40% cut because the base SL multipliers have been cut from, say, 4.0 to 2.0. If you know how to do math, that reduces percentage increase from boosters that much more because the base number of your equation is that much lower, even that 50% premium account boost doesn’t help nearly as much or not at all now. What’s the point of paying for premium when we aren’t even breaking even now in most cases?!?! They didn’t even mention this knock in SL rewards at all in the economy forum post, only mentioning Costs and RP multiplier modifications. This attempt at a shadow nerf to the core Sl modifier needs to be brought to attention. All those people who bought Premium vehicles during the sales just for this to happen weeks later have been ROBBED because they have been lied too. This affects everyone
ah so thats why my 2PL went from earning me 40k to 20k a match
They felt that only a few players felt that the revenue was reduced In fact, all people feel that the benefits are reduced. BVVD unwilling to admit mistakes
@@andreasliebisch3881 you need 4 kills on the mirage to break even with your repair cost.
Yeah just recently noticed. I just had a round that would usually give me like 110k sl but got only 70k. Hopefully they change it back to normal
What a cool looking tank ! Thanks for making it harder for all players to play! You increased the grind for the tank and also made it unaffordable to play without paying for premium time!
Gaijin, I must be honest. I don’t like the direction the game is heading with the economy changes, really scares off new players and punishes older players
斯拉夫人能搞好经济，苏联不会解体😅
My friend when he saw a game for a bit, he uninstalled and I asked why, he said this is exactly like a mobile game (on terms of economy).
the fact is, you grind a Leopard 2 A6
then you find you can't pay the bill due to ridiculous high repair fee
the fact is that in war thunder there isnt a leopard 2a7 the top leo is the 2a6
@@thewrongpilot9693 so it’s ok that US players have to use their 1998 tech M1A2 Sep against a 2014 tech 2A7?
All non-US nations (except France’s XII) have top tier tanks that are produced after 2010, yet US is still stuck with a pre-2000 tech tank that has incorrectly modeled turret armor which should be more effective than M1A1 HC due to the upgraded 3rd gen depleted uranium armor.
Guess no one wants US to have equally nice things huh?
@@schadenfreude1061 b-but what about the ruskies? That will not be good for them-m
@@schadenfreude1061 u forgot about the t 90 a
Gaijin you surely know how to disappoint us
Ah Gaijin. One of the few companies that can be so impressive yet so disappointing at the same time. Truly one of a kind.
@@AlreadyTakenTag rockstar been doing this for decades
Keep complaining they are still better than snail game
@@AlreadyTakenTag honestly its just disappointing
@@TinyBearTim anything is better than gaijin. Gaijin is actively undermining the game and trying to alienate his own playerbase with totally out of touch changes to the game and morons who "manage" the forums
Cool tanks, I would've surely found it very distasteful to have extra tanks to have to research despite them being fouldered before, adding more vehicles to the painful grind in order to get to the things that I'd also like to play, additioning tens of extra hours of battles to reach em. It surely would.
Wow, what a cool tank! Thank god you guys implemented changes to low tiers that unfoldered numerous vehicles so new players have to grind more than ever before to get it :)
Tbh in the lower tiers it isn't that bad
@@arroyo5802 This is where it begins, it'll move to mid-high tiers soon thereafter, they're simply testing the waters.
@@arroyo5802 its litteraly the opposite of what needs to happen, some of the tech trees have so many more vehicles compared to others, and so many of them are similar... we need more groups/folders, not less...
Research costs are down across the board and low tier vehicles are piss easy to grind through.
The panzer 38 t is 2900 research points...that's ONE good game or 10 games at most for a new player who does terribly.
You people will find reasons to complain about everything.
Yet another reason to hate low tier
Wow, Gaijin! What a good tank! I really wish you guys made the economy even worse for average players! I really wish you guys made it impossible to play for lower tier players! 😊
Always enjoying a economy change in the game that puts the player base at a great disadvantage! I don't even need to buy any more premium time. Thank you Gaijin for taking caring so much about us! It's greatly appreciated! :)
God am I glad I already have all the low tier and most mid tier vehicles in the game, I can’t imagine trying to grind after all these new unwanted, unasked for and unnecessary changes
*Everyone waiting for the trailer*
Gajin: Look at this Leopard 2
The fact that the first comments here are talking about the economy changes is interesting. I mean, they’re not wrong, with all the new changes, how are any new players even supposed to get here? Spend money, right? That’s the only option left, buy prem account or buy the prem 2a4.
I like economy on this wonderful game
Said no one ever
@@TADAMAT-CZ r/woosh
That's cool and all, but how about cutting all repair costs in half so the average player doesn't have to grind 12h a day just to avoid bankruptcy?
Leopard 2A5 is my favorite, because I'm too lazy to grind the stock 2A6 I have.
gaijin if you want to save your game look at the comments here and listen to you're player base. Otherwise you gonna kill off the game with recent economy change
Imagine making a great game then alienating your entire playerbase by making it literal work to play it for fun and not to grind.
The game is unplayable right now. Increasing the repair cost and lowering the SL income... new players gonna left the game at rank III. Yeah, Leopard 2 are nice... but there is no one farming 3 years to play it, you will see it. Top tier is going to be just a bunch of noobs in premium tanks leaving the game after one rush+die and tech tree players are gona leave the game as well because of that. You are killing your own game, well done...
To all the players of War Thunder:
I believe everyone has noticed the recent changes in the in-game economy, whether it's for naval, ground, air battles, AB, RB, or SB. Gaijin is continuously pushing the boundaries and testing the limits of its players. If you are familiar with the game "Escape from Tarkov," you probably know the consequences when game developers constantly provoke their player base. As players of this game, we contribute to its activity, and in theory, Gaijin should appreciate each and every one of us who continues to support and encourage this game. However, Gaijin keeps pushing the boundaries and exploiting each and every one of us. This recent economic change is not just a simple adjustment; Gaijin is gradually making it clear that if you don't pay for this game, you don't deserve to play it.
I implore every player here to bravely stand up and resist this behavior. Gaijin has now infringed upon our rights as players, and we cannot, and should not, let Gaijin continue to exploit us in the future. It is time for us players to unite and stand together. We should be a collective, a class, opposing Gaijin's exploitation and oppression towards us. We are here to enjoy this game, to find joy in it, and we should not be working for Gaijin.
I hope that each player will save and spread this message. This post will undoubtedly be deleted, but we should copy it, share it, on any platform, anywhere that allows us to make our voices heard. Fellow warriors, let's fight for our future. Stay strong!
If you are willing, you can sign below. We stand as one!
-From a player on Earth, Liliya
riot
what a cool looking tank. Gaijin surely adds one every year and not waiting 2 and a half years to not give Germany a new one
Yeah fr. The 2a6 is starting to not be as competitive as it once were
What are you expecting? 2a7? That wasn't even available 10 years ago. Some nations should get a new mbt that's not from the 80s first instead of adding new ones to nations that have 2000 era mbts
@@HIFLY01 maybe not a 2a7 but a 2a6m would be nice. What nations do you mean??
@@nick7418 the US and Italy still have their top mbt 30 years behind everyone else and have for years
The T-80BVM enter service in 2018.
The Challenger 2 “black night” was unveiled in 2018.
The Type 10 entered service in 2012.
The ZTZ-99A entered service in 2011.
The Ariete AMV started trials in 2021.
The Leclerc SXXI entered service in 2003.
STRV-122B PLSS entered service in 2002.
The Merkava Mk 4M entered service in 2011.
The leopard 2A6 entered service in 2001
And the M1A2 SEP V1 entered service in 1999.
When historical DM33 will be added to Leo 2A4?
What a cool game. It would be a pity if I stopped playing it due to horrible economy and developers who make the game more and more toxic with every update. I'm so glad they are listening to playerbase, we couldn't ask for anything better than making repair cost higher and SL and RP multipliers lower to the point where the game is barely playable even if you pay to play!
Canada has been using the Leopard for decades. I remember shipping track, transmissions, engines regularly. It made upgrades and maintenance easier since we always had a battalion stationed on our NATO base in Germany. Had a few chances to take rides in them as a kid, awesome machines.
Would be nice if the 2A5/6/STRV122's didn't have the fictional nerf to the mantlet and inner cheek composites and the increased spalling on the mantlet -_-
Germany is also really REALLY in need of a new top tier MBT. the 2PL was the last rank 7 vehicle Germany received and that was OVER 2 years ago...
I love whey you say "Would be nice if the 2A5/6/STRV122's didn't have the fictional nerf to the mantlet and inner cheek composites" as if you knew how much armor the leo2 has in that part lol
@@CREELASTI'm fairly sure there is no 2.0 modifier on small IRL
and sweden has now more Leo2 than GER which is mostly due to both US and RU mains still complaining that germany gets all the good stuff. even tho if you look back at the change logs I would like to be shown where GER got all that cause I see about 8 RU and 6 US high tier very capable vehicles only on ground while german had 1.
and sweden got 6 Leo2s but GER is still so OP why does no one say anything about SWEDEN ? and I don't even wanna start on the Premiums the Russians get on ground and the US in the Air while germany... well..
saying germany needs a new mbt is like saying we need the su-35 to combat the F-14B being added
@@asukahasegawa why ? they nerfed them long ago and Sweden got more of them than the country developing them ? so why is it no problem when sweden gets more and better ones ?
Gaijin is trying hard to send this game to the graveyard for money
We need more vehicles in folders!
As an ardent War Thunder player with over 6700 hours invested in the game, I find myself deeply unsettled by the recent changes. Over the years, I've maintained a premium account and have invested considerably in Golden Eagles vehicles and bundle purchases. Yet, my core fascination lies with the technologically diverse and well-structured tech-tree vehicles, despite the significant investments made in the premium ones. If we were to approximate this in ratios, my vehicle collection would stand at a rough 9:1 split between tech-tree and premium vehicles. However, this doesn't proportionately translate to my gameplay time, as at most, the ratio stands at 8:2, and not a 7:3 or even a 5:5 split.
Unfortunately, the recent changes that were supposedly implemented to balance gameplay fairness - nerfing the benefits of high-yield vehicles and boosting low-yield ones - have, in reality, reduced the overall rewards for regular players post-vehicle repairs.
Previously, as a premium account holder, I didn't need to play premium vehicles specifically to gather enough Silver Lions (SL) for vehicle repair costs, to buy new tech-tree vehicles or upgrade my favorite ones to the expert crew level. However, these changes have forced me to reallocate my time and energy to premium vehicles that I have outgrown, merely to earn additional SL. If not, I'd merely be breaking even after paying repair costs, unable to afford new tech-tree vehicles or expert crew upgrades. This change is particularly disheartening as it inhibits my freedom to explore the tech-tree vehicles that I genuinely enjoy.
Imagine the plight of those without premium accounts, who now must exhibit above-average gameplay just to stay afloat, with the looming risk of bankruptcy from one bad game.
It's crucial to highlight that even if top-tier players have a surplus of Silver Lions, it wouldn't cause any severe issues that warrant a decrease in their income. Conversely, the reduction in rewards greatly affects middle and lower-tier players. They are forced to spend more time playing premium vehicles or familiar tech-tree vehicles before they can afford new ones, gravely impacting their gaming experience.
While I understand and accept the income redistribution from high-efficiency to low-efficiency vehicles, I strongly urge for a substantial decrease in all vehicle repair costs. Failing this, we risk dampening players' enthusiasm, promoting overly conservative gameplay, reducing playtime, and potentially fostering a rise in the use of scripts and hacks.
The current controversy evokes memories of the "free repair kits and fire extinguishers" debate from years past. The significant reduction in research points required for these items drastically improved the gaming experience and boosted player enthusiasm. Trusting in the developers' respect for player experience and my belief in the game's upward trajectory, I purchased more high-BR packages following that change. Now, facing this new controversy, I hope that the developers will once again make the right decision, PLS DONT DISAPPOINT US.😿
Honestly they already have disappointed us they show their true colours now not as developers of what is a good game at heart but just money hungry suits doing everything than can to destroy and alienate their games community and then instead of owing up to it they try to hide behind statements that try to blame the community saying its our fault for not understanding what they mean. They don't care that players are unhappy with the recent changes they will do what they always do hide until it either disappears or gets to a point where they have to do something about it usually that would involved empty words and empty promises.
Add the 2a7 with a V upgrade module, it would just be an strv122 but with a bigger gun and better thermals, and the dm73 has almost the exact same pen as the dm63 so it wouldn’t be changing much
the V upgrade would be too op, as it has even more composite and would need something else to balance it.
@@warthunderclips69 it’s armor is literally the same as the strv122
@@pill_popin_pigeon4759 V came out in 2017, strv122 came out like early 2000s
"The first member of the family most players will meet, is the experimental 2K"
Leopard A1A1: why you bully me
We want more Leopards(2A7; 2A7A1; PSO).
Cool tanks, I sure hope they don't take a lifetime to grind, unless you pay up of course.
I like the Leopard 2A7, A7V and A7A1... wonder when we will finally see those in game, after all Russia has 3 times the amount of top tier MBTs in the tech tree.
Leo 2 PSO was leaked some time ago but i didnt saw any new Leo in the new update trailer...
Also since sweden now is better then germany its about time for the german tech tree to get least one new Leopard 2 above the current 2 a6.
@@Future183 PSO is just another sidegrade, A5 gun with slightly better armor.
@@Asgar1205 irl the additional armor isnt just some useless weight but gaijin will defenitly make it seem like some useless weight. The only real upgrade is probably the 50 cal gun
3 years without a new german top tier
What do you want? KF 51?
@@shipdw7279 no you st*pid just another top tier tank like every nation
I believe everyone has noticed the recent changes in the in-game economy, whether it's for naval, ground, air battles, AB, RB, or SB. Gaijin is continuously pushing the boundaries and testing the limits of its players. If you are familiar with the game "Escape from Tarkov,you probably know the consequences when game developers constantly provoke their player base. As players of this game, we contribute to its activity, and in theory, Gaijin should appreciate each and every one of us who continues to support and encourage this
game. However, Gaijin keeps pushing the boundaries and exploiting each and every one of us. This recent economic change is not just a simple adjustment;
Gaijin is gradually making it clear that if you don't pay
for this game, you don't deserve to play it.
I implore every player here to bravely stand up and
resist this behavior. Gaijin has now infringed upon our rights as players, and we cannot, and should not, let Gaijin continue to exploit us in the future. It is time for us players to unite and stand together. We should be a collective, a class, opposing Gaijin's exploitation and oppression towards us. We are here to enjoy this game,to find joy in it, and we should not be working for Gaijin.
I hope that each player will save and spread this
message. This post will undoubtedly be deleted, but we should copy it, share it, on any platform, anywhere that allows us to make our voices heard. Fellow warriors,
loto fabt forour futura Stav otronel
Cool tanks, but I AINT GRINDING ALLAT with this economy
As i was searching the internet about the 2K and this dropped absolutely godsent!
I am still looking forward to the Leo2A6+ and the Leopard 2A7 to be released
To research and buy 2a5, I earned SL by riding only premium leo 1 and tam2ip, and 2a6 research has just been completed! I also have to go on a hard journey to earn SL.
Would be nice seeing Leopard 2SG or 2RI in-game.
Would have grinded it and played it if it wasn't for the high repair cost on this economy change. Uninstalled until further improvement on the economy.
Wäre doch nach guten 2,5 Jahren mal Zeit einen dritten Leo 2 ins Toptier in den Tech Tree zu packen oder?
I think they should invest in the smaller tech trees
Only 3 top tier competetive tt mbts (counting in the PL) might not be competetive enough these days so yeah, Germany should at least get one more top tier mbt.
wir brauchen keinen 11. Leopard 2
@@taverkas1692 we do, cry about it
@@taverkas1692 38% winrate im Toptier. Nicht oder?
Leopard 2k, my love
Ah yes "You still need to aim for weakspots"
Meanwhile BVM can shoot you anywhere but turret cheeks.
We need DM33 for leo 2a4.
We need a new top tier leopard.
LOL bvm can't pen turret of the leo2 a5 and 6
I'm currently not sure but does the leo2 a4 not have DM 33, if not yea it is needed. At the same time would be to strong on current br
@@adrianwei4008 He just said that the only place he cant pen is the turret cheeks...
Yeah it doesnt have only the 13 and 23
2A4 doesn't need DM33. It's fairly balanced at 10.3. Leopard 2PL needs its historical DM63 tho...
@@Texas_Engineer_Mike 2A6 too...i mean that was the whole reason for the L55 to be able to use DM63 all potential
@@M0LOCK 2A6 doesn't need it since DM53 and DM63 share the exact same penetration values. It wouldn't change a thing for Leopard 2A6.
And 2A6 used DM33 and DM53 historically and received DM63 later afaik.
all you need is the racketenjagd panzer with its 700mm of penetration. the updated version would be nice with 1200mm pen and thermals beter zoom
I hope that in the future they will add a branch of research from Spain, and there they will add the Leopard 2E.
It would be exciting.
another copy paste nation? NO PLEASE
Yeah great, so when are Leopard 2s going to receive a proper hull armor(yeah all Leopard 2s in the game use the same base composite armor from 1979) and good thermals?It's crazy that how a tank like Leopard 2A6,a 20-25 year old variant so not that old, uses Gen 1 thermals wtf Gaijin??
2A5 and 2A6 only had 1st gen thermals for the gunner. 2A7V was the first Leopard with better gunner optics (gen3).
i get you want to scream at gaijin, and i wouldnt stop you from doing that becuz gaijin deserve to be shouted at, but the 2a5/6 actually have better hull armor by like 50 mm KE source: just go look at it in the Protection viewer
@@klaustan1817 Honestly, that 50mm + dosen't add that much, they still penetrate the hull quite easily, turret is like the only strong point, but i get ya
Too bad you get killed by drones, choppers 95% of the time
It's good that you reverted the horrible economy change, don't remember that of course it's your game, but if your game is empty from player it's useless. I understand it's a F2P game, but sometime it's too grindy, and if on top of that you **** up people who buy premium or premium vehicles by lowing their reward, they wont buy something ever again.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE GAME UNPLAYABLE FOR NEW PLAYERS I LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH
If you put the same effort into making the economy more player friendly as you do with these useless videos, you'd have much more players. This company could really use a new lead
AARD AARD AARD AARD, WE WANT OUR AARDVARK (day 1)
REVERSE ECONOMIC CHANGES NOW!!!
Let's spam it everywhere
I haven't touched the German leopards since new power the STRV122B and the addition of the Finish 2A6 means just go play sweden it's a better nation Sweden is literally just Germany but better untill tanks like the 2A7 are added and I don't want that it'd be quite op but untill then if you want leopards go play sweden
As a German main I have always enjoyed playing the Leopards.
I know that you guys aren't the developers but i dont know where else i would say this: Please bring back the Flakpanzer 341 as a event vehicle or something, cause it was so cool!
If we talk about Leopard2s, Gaijin when we get the Leopard2A7 finally?
Gaijin trying to milk the game more and more but they have to realise the thin rope they are standing on is going to be thinner and thinner everyday until it will break definetly.
Question: When will you do something about the BR compression, Pay2Play game model, (Shadow-)Rewards changes, Unfair winrates, etc. pp.?
Leopards 2 are really cool!!!
Pls fix the repair costs and make it so you don't have to pay to have fun
FIX ECONOMY
I love the leopard 2s
:)
Shoot T72 in ammorack: charge exploded but tank still alive
Bruh ii started playing a couple months ago, im not getting a leopard for a fat while lol
WERE ON STRIKE
The early days when the Leo2k was just added, and the ricochet rate on that was just so so frustrating, rounds going thru and ghosting, bouncing lmao
The moment of victory is still away. What we've achieved is only half a victory.
How many incomprehensible steps have been taken so far.
From statistical updates, developers who have no affection for games, to executives who are only bent on squeezing users' wallets, not developing good games.
We have to remember that it wasn't just the loss of the goods that we lost in this patch. Ask for more.
Let the scenes remain as brilliant old memories breathe again.
Melt the memories of incomprehensible suffering into resistance.
We're almost at the moment of victory.
If we do a little more, we win.
A little more push and we win.
Let's cheer up one more step at a time until freedom is finally restored.
When leopard 2 a6 ex, leopard 2 revolution and evolution, leopard 2 pso, leopard2a7v ?
Can yall give us the ability to change our bomb series whilst in the air
Im spiel kannste sie vergessen. Da mann die wannenfront so generft hat das fast jeder durchkommt und das wars dann .....
Hmm im pretty sure there is a Leopard 2A5 in the Italian tree
There's only one thing that I'm currently concerned. When is Barannikov's funeral?
Can you fix leopard 2 underperforming armor? Like hull KE/CHE multipliers or 2a4 gun shield which has 420mm thickness, not 240mm as we have in the game.
Also since 2a4 is 10.3, give Dm33 bc 400mm when facing 11.3 BR is a joke.
Oh boy, more tanks I will never be able to play! Thanks for the economy Gaijin!
All nice and good but where is new update? 😅
I like the 2A7V the most XD
I will not hate on you guys!
The fact that sweden has more and better leos is wild💀 just give germany 2a7 or pso
STOP PLAYING THIS GAME UNTIL THEY LISTEN TO US.
Great. Now fix the economy.
If you haven’t already, stop/reduce spending money to gaijin. Stop playing on May the 26th, and spread the word.
Leopard 2 A7 pls
Now i keep lose lions. So i only play 1 battle for a few weeks. Let it auto repair then i play again.
Leopard 2a6 is my favorite.
Ten years.. Ten long years I've fought... Through every theatre, Since the dawn of machine. Be it by Air, Land or Sea. Grinding my way through endless tech trees In the name of the Snail.. So many fallen brethren but the sacrifice was worth it, For we had value. The Great Snail now chooses to turn his back on us! He calls US the people who MADE him worthless! He demands we sacrifice our happiness, time, money, basic value and finally life itself for NOTHING. The Snail has been corrupted by his greed and now rejoices in our deaths, Our suffering. For it makes him more money. I've Bathed in the golden light of the snail for ten long years a loyal servant.. The light is tainted, The Old Guard and Faithful Warriors are few and far. What have you become.. I'm tired. So tired..
Germany needs a new leopard 2 on rank VII!
damm cool vehicle would be nice if i could actually use it and break even without having to destroy entire battalions worth of tanks
This is cool but where's the rubber duck tank?
2:16 "with Soviet tanks, aim for the centre of mass, where the auto-loader racks are stored..." well in game, that's how you'll meet any T-64 or T-72 or T-80. The first shot you're gonna hit its lower front plate, the fuel tank exploded without starting any fire, the Soviet tank is fine. The second shot, you hit thecentre of the lower front plate, the APFSDS round passes right through the driver, the driver turned yellow, and the dart somehow got around the full ammo rack and destroyed the engine, nobody died in the Soviet tank. The third shot, you're gonna hit the turret ring, and the ring and the ring only turned red, everything else in the Soviet tank is untouched. Cool, you've sucessfully experienced something even worse than the RNGesus from World of Tanks, it's called the Snail
s hitbox. :D
Nice trailer 🤙
Gaijan, could you do a video with the USA Abrams
love the Leos but the new economy update is something I dont love gaijin please revert it
The Leopard 2 is so heavy yet it has such shitty armor.
Pz87WE Leo should be in the game aswell
I choose: Leopard Evolution. But no that grill, please.
Come on man I thought this is the next patch Trailer nice flank gaijin 😂
My favorite Leopard 2A4
i like the Leopard 2 a6EX, Revolution, 2 a7V, 2 a7a1, 2 a8
I love all models!!!🙌❤️🇩🇪
you forgot to say that if you shoot leopard 2a5,2a6 on their additional armor on turret it will just fall of it. happened to me twice
RIP Gready Thunder