How to jack up and brace a broken rafter.
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- How to jack up and brace a broken rafter. This is how I am repairing the roof rafter that has split in half and separated from the facia board that was rigged by farmer Johnny on a Tuesday night. The end. If you want the tools for the job check out my links below to help support my channel!! kindly shop through my links, I have an amazon associate account and get a small commission thank you so much!
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Fantastic video Pal. I did identical job last week to repair a rafter broken CAUSED by neighbors 'CONTRACTORS' JUMPING DOWN ON MY ROOF FROM A LADDER.
Thank you for reaching out!! I appreciate that you did it and then came back to let us know it worked for you as well! I am sorry that happened to you from someone else’s contractor. What a joke! I’m glad you were able to fix it at least! Once again thank you.
I love the detail you are a very good teacher I’m wanting to vault the ceiling in a small 1937 bungalow this will help me design my structure thanks again
Thank you, I try to do the best I can and appreciate you reaching out. 1937, wooow that is old!
Looks like those 2”x4s are over 2’ on center framed back when there were no building codes. Kuddos to you you took the challenge! Not easy but doable. 💯👍👊
Your correct! It was built in 1940’s! Thank you, I always see beauty in the ashes! Thank you for reaching out.
We called a good roofer, who looked at the big sag from the outside, said don't worry about it. Then I looked from inside, saw 3 rafters in a row, all cracked. We will do some fix like this. Thanks for great description, Grant, and tips about removing nails. I figured they would jack all the way from the concrete floor, as it's a garage with no ceiling. But your way might be smarter.
Thank you for reaching out! That is very common unfortunately! It’s a good thing you took a look and I’m glad I was able to help you!! No problem at all!!
Nice to have you explain what you did, show what you did and explained why you did it. Very informative.
THANKS
Thank you very much!!! I appreciate you reaching out to me to let me know!!
Excellent comprehensive and robust job mate. Thanks Tim in UK.
Thank you. I appreciate that and thank you for reaching out to me!!
I have a similar problem to fix in my 1952 home (not quite that bad). Good method and ideas witn this arrangement. Thankfully, I have real ceiling joists, which will help.
Thanks for reaching out! I appreciate that, I am glad yours isn’t as bad and I have done the same thing on a couple roofs and it’s worked great for me. I will say the first one I did though, I just jacked it up before cutting the nails that slipped out, so that one did leak because the nails jacked up to in the wrong spot haha so there was my leak fully supported though lol. But hopefully this saves someone else from making that mistake!
Great video! I learnt a lot. Thanks.
@@thomo74 Thank you!! I appreciate that and I’m glad it was helpful!
Nice video. Thank you for taking the time to make and post. Just subscribed
Thank you! I appreciate you also and I’m glad I was able to help!!
Thanks very helpful
Thank you for reaching out! I’m glad it was helpful! 👌
Thanks for the video, we just bought a older 1957 raised bungalow with a wavy roof line. Dont know what a inspection will reveal but i have an idea:)! Cheers.
Cheers!! I’ll have to join you for happy hour! Lol 😂 That’s exciting man and such an old house! You can definitely reach out to me if you have any questions through Facebook and keep me updated!
@@GrantKeysProperties Appreciate it, I'll keep you updated.
@WilliamVG Cool! Have a great evening 👌
Nice! Thanks for sharing
Not a problem! It was a good project! Thanks for watching!
nice work!
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Thank you! And I’ll look into it!!
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@@richguitar93 I may also link it in the description, after I check it out. We will see thanks again!
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Similar problem with our cabin sorta. 7 joists in various stages of cracked to split in two. Tree fell on it. We did this last summer but its just too much weight. Maybe 1/3 of the roof. Think it may be easier/safer to brace it all cut it out and rebuild.
Unfortunately, it is very possible that it would be easier to destroy the broken sections and rebuild. If the damage isn’t too bad and you think you could brace it I would brace it. Rebuilding the entire roof is not gonna be an easy task. I’ve done it on two properties and although I was able to do it alone, I was younger about 21. I would suggest trying to find one or two helpers. I’m sorry something like this is happened. That is not fun, I understand your in a pickle. You could find me on Facebook and send me pictures through Facebook messenger if you would like more guidance. Free of charge.
Thanks dude,
No problem! Thanks for checking in here.
after watching this i think its easier and cheaper to fully replace the rafter...would be the only way anyway if there is a room below it and not just an unused attic
In my case I was jacking up the roof all the way down not just the broken one. I supported and jacked the broken one and then braced and jacked the other ones as well because the damage spread out over several feet across. If it was just that one then it may be easier to just sister in that one and jack it up. Thanks for checking in!
why didn't you sister up the cracked rafter? Brace should be directly under rafter instead of just nails holding the load.
The jack of all trades..lol
I’m not a one trick pony! LOL 😂
Is often better than a master of one 😊
I like that one, I think it is important! The full quote
Great video and helpful. Do you have any videos on: "how to remove and replace termite infested rafters, joist and sill plates attached to concrete frame/slab in attic? ". Thank you.
Thank you! Well I have similar issues I suppose in my framing playlist! I have this one. ruclips.net/video/g-rrTX2GBeI/видео.htmlsi=X67BQiZ2TA4wzbSi it might help some!
I wish I could do this with you one time just for a better understanding lol
I’m about to wing it and do this at my house
@@GrantKeysProperties I bought a 1920s house that’s been neglected and I’m currently gutting it. Roofs toast and I plan on doing that in the spring. The whole house including the roof is 2x4.
I have 3 rafters “jerry rigged” that have been “fixed” with nailing a 2x4 on the other side of it. Doesn’t fix the sag in the roof tho. I also current have a rafter that’s literally broken in half.
Im sure I can do it, the confidence in me doing it correctly tho is where I would like to do it one time with supervision for a better understanding lol
@@GrantKeysProperties are you on any other social media by chance!?
@@GrantKeysProperties I am! I only tried to Instagram haha I’ll go find you there!!
I have a old house 1920s and not much bracing my pitch is one that u dont walk on. the whole middle has a sagging accept the far ends.
That is how they did lots back in the day! They used 2x4 roof joists instead of 2x6 joists. I would brace the entire length and start jacking the middle first. Just a couple inches and then wait a month and jack a couple more inches and wait again just don’t do it all at once because it may be to much and start separating things. I can try and help I’ll be here if you need more guidance! I will respond
KISS alive!! I have a question. Is there a specific Jack ? I need to fix a broken 2x10
@@Matt-km3po I put links to Jack’s in this video description! Thanks!
I watch home inspectors and how much professional builders of new homes messup rafters so don't knock Do-it-yourselfer's like only they make mistakes. They just get paid alot less for them.
Man I’m right there with you. I have seen a few crazy things from professionals, and I have lots of stories from people I know. Definitely not only homeowners mess up stuff. It is contractors as well. And you’re not kidding about contractors getting a lot more money to mess it up. And a lot of it probably is just labor shortage and people not being trained properly. But either way, it is a problem. Great comment! Thanks for checking in!
You done a good job. I ve got a old boat shed rhat had tree fall on it. Would take a biger jack but learned from your deal. Thanks
Thank you! I appreciate you checking in and glad I could be of help In some way. No problem at all!
I found a caved down in rafter and a partially broken board in my attic which I'm sure are from tree trimmers last winter. I see some roofing nails above the caved down rafter which are 2x4's in my house. What will happen to the roofing nails if rafter is supported up in place by adding a parallel 2x4? Shingles are too brittle to hammer the nails back in???
Can you cut the nails, jack it up from underneath and then put the parallel ones in? Maybe I don’t understand exactly.. you could find me on Facebook and hit me up on messenger I could see pictures of it then and help you that way if you would like. I would not mind taking a look at it..
Great job👍🏿..
No, not really.
I live in a single wide mobile home and when they put in spray insulation it caused the ceiling inside to sag really bad. Do you have any videos for something like that? Any ideas if it's something can even be fixed? Thank you. Subbed.
I think this video may help you it’s how to support ceiling joist with a rat runner it may help some more I’m sorry I know what your saying and they probably used 2x4 ceiling joist also I’m assuming...
@@GrantKeysProperties Thank you dear. I will find someone who does this kind of work. I just wanted to know "if" it can be fixed. They just overdid it with the insulation. I appreciate your advice.
@@donnagagne3813 No problem at all!! Thank you for checking in and I hope you get it solved. Have a good one!
Sufficient 👍🏽
barely. Time will tell.
You didn't want to sister a new 2x4 to the existing or get rid of the cracked/rotted member altogether?
@@GrantKeysProperties It would have been less work to just sister it with a ripped LVL. Now you've introduced load paths that weren't there before.
Are you still a lower to 'sister' ? My house is 90 yrs old and has a lot of 'grandfather' !!!!
My roof has spread how would I go about pulling it back in,the wall plate is pushed out 2” and the ceiling joist was not nailed to the rafters 2” gap.The rafters are sitting on a 3”1/4” x10”1/2” Purlin any suggestions would be great.
Thanks for checking in and sounds like you have a problem I need to see in person or a short video clip. Could you find me on Facebook and send a picture of it to me through messenger? I can try to help you better there!
is your exterior wall still plumb?
@@corythompson9523 Plumb all round it was repaired after bomb damage during the war new roof 35 years ago cowboy outfit,Ceiling joist not sitting on wall plate butted up to it and there is a 2” gap at one end and the top brick has pushed out.Thank you for your reply I just want to cock it up for peace of mind probably been like that since 1944 haha cheers Cory.🇬🇧🏴
Yes, by jacking up the roof it actually fixed everything else. Lol.!!!! 😂 I’m literally not kidding.
Wow, you’re talking about some crazy bomb damage! I really wish I could see it, but you might be better off in your case stabilizing the issue by tying it together where is separated. Using wood to attach it together so it doesn’t fall apart or separate even more. If you tie both sides together with the rat runner or the one that goes sideways, basically tying all the roofing joist in that area where it separated together with a rat runner. That way it will not separate or divide any further if that makes sense, but if you want to pull the two pieces together first, you might be able to use winches pulling them together or something of that nature… I don’t know if I’m making sense, but I’m thinking of it in my brain!
So what kind of professional would you call for this?
I would call a framing carpenter for this one! Hopefully this helps and thanks for checking in!
Great job, very clever 😎👍🏻
Thank you! Cheers! I appreciate it.
How much did you charge for that.
@@aaronjerome1200 It’s my property. I am a landlord, this was the renovation process before I rented it out. I probably would’ve charged $2000 basically for labor only. The wood was like 50 bucks. But I’m not a contractor and I just do this stuff for myself. That’s just what I’m thinking in my head that I probably would’ve charged for the effort. It’s very possible that another contractor would not have done this method and charged $10,000 or more and replaced the shingles on the roof and the decking and everything else who knows! Maybe they would turn it down for high risk. I think outside the box and I’ve had a lot of success doing that. I do some things I’ve never seen anybody on the planet do before. Hopefully this helps you a little bit!!
Hi mate
How should one prop rafters on a temporary wall when removing a load bearing wall. Which wsy should the strutts be tilting or angled.
you build a temporary load bearing wall
He is correct ✅
why dident you put the supports between the sole plate which should have been doubled and the top plate which should have been doubled,the way you have done it is not verry good😡
The way I have done it, is overkill for the load and span. Thanks for your concern though. I appreciate that.
So the only thing I see wrong, is the use of screws. Screws are not structure rated. They shear and snap and you wont even know until they completely fail. Nails will bend and they swell up in the grain of the wood. If you're doing old houses, you know the difference between pulling a nail out of an old board and a new one. I'd take your framing nailer and go pop 3" nails in everything. It would really suck for those screws to pop and then they all shear at once once the weight is sufficient enough and it comes down quick. my 2 cents, but good job on bracing and understanding load. OKie has them tornados too.
I appreciate your response, but I have had much more difficulty taking screws apart than nails 99 percent of the time anyway, it also depends on what screw your buying but anyway to each their own on that situation. I would say either one will work. There is positives and negatives to both because I’ve seen nails pull straight through. And the entire floors in houses separate from the walls and hit the dirt, so yeah there’s that haha 😂
What type of jack is this called ?
It is the trusty bottle jack!
what jack is that?
It’s a 20 ton bottle jack! Good question. Thanks for checking in!
With all that..y
Not
Just reroof it..
Because still, this is much easier than redoing the whole roof. This was just about one room area inside the house. Well, I did fix several areas on that property but that’s because I got the property at a very low price. So it would be worth fixing if you can make hundreds of thousands of dollars correct!? It was to me
Don't show the inspector
@@GrantKeysProperties lol but you bought a home made house.. by an amateur ?! lol.. jus sayin.... whats holding up that ceiling if no rafters ? ?????? enquiring minds want to know.. :)🙂🙃🖐
buy a new jack..jeez they cheap like 40 $
😂 that may be true but I already had that special one there!
How’s your sister ?
It’s holding beautifully!! I expect 100 years out of it.