Who Is Yozora? What is Fabula Nova Crystallis? | [Kingdom Hearts Theory] ~ Feat. LunarLux

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  • Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
  • Yozora is clouded in mystery, but also familiarity. Fabula Nova Crystallis, how does it pertain to Kingdom Hearts as a whole?
    Let me know what I missed below! Sleeping Worlds is still next up on my list, just needed to make this video as well!
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  • @mariapazgonzalezlesme
    @mariapazgonzalezlesme 4 года назад +344

    Good analysis video! There some things that I wanna point about this theory.
    + On the Final World, the Nameless Star mentioned on her dialogue that Yozora - "He’s been changed beyond recognition-his heart replaced with another’s. But, were he to regain his old self again, he would be distressed by my absence." Thus indicating that as Yozora has said on his dialogue, this isn't his real appearence, but rather an avatar form from the Verum Rex game. This could be an reference to Yozora's "original" form of Noctis from FFXIII Versus.
    + It's probably that Nameless Star is the "Sora" is the name of the same girl from the Verum Rex trailer. They both have brown hair and blue eyes. Explaining why Yozora acted suspicious with (KH) Sora about why was using that name.
    + Sora the girl is a basically Stella. Since the Nameless Star also mentioned that they took away her name and everything about her, meaning about Stella being cut from the original FFXIII Versus.

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +28

      Wow, I totally forgot that line, but that adds a lot! So hmm... It seems like they body swapped then right? Sounds like it to me at least 🤔 I was thinking maybe her name was Sora too but I didn’t have any basis for it, but I like the hair and eye color thing

    • @Zetgeist
      @Zetgeist 4 года назад +15

      In some of the old vs. 13 trailers theres a girl that noctis seems like he's about to battle with. Whether that's Stella or someone else I cant remember, but I'm sure that's the person who Yozora believes Sora to be.

    • @meevil24
      @meevil24 4 года назад +8

      That is a hella meta

    • @cubedone199
      @cubedone199 4 года назад +3

      @@meevil24 lol that type of reasoning means nothing in kh 😂😂

    • @kellin007
      @kellin007 4 года назад +5

      @WaterKH What if it has something to do with the MoM after all, that isn’t yozora true appearance and we see MoM in the other secret ending which is rikus dream. Also he is voiced by ray chase.

  • @KellyJoule
    @KellyJoule 4 года назад +296

    I find it so friggin hilarious that one of the major keys to uncovering this huge mystery in a talking toy dinosaur

    • @JFLEstudios
      @JFLEstudios 4 года назад +34

      And a commercial for a fake video game in the Toy Story world. I love Kingdom Hearts...

    • @NEROcpe
      @NEROcpe 4 года назад +6

      Thats kingdom hearts baybeeeee

    • @darkcrow210
      @darkcrow210 2 года назад +4

      Don't forget that talking dinosaur is a Tyrannosaurus REX. So they basically introduced a king with another king ;)

  • @Sputnik_Man
    @Sputnik_Man 4 года назад +420

    Inb4 It’s revealed that Yozora is Noctis’ Nobody...
    Nah, I’m only joking...
    Unless...

    • @danieloftamriel
      @danieloftamriel 4 года назад +24

      Please please please! That would already make XV somewhat better.

    • @zionfalconi5415
      @zionfalconi5415 4 года назад +8

      Dude, why do you make me want things that may not happen.

    • @abnerfilio27
      @abnerfilio27 4 года назад +9

      I think Yozora is Nocs Avatar. when they met he says how did he did not look like that in reality.Now on how it connects that is the mystery

    • @danieloftamriel
      @danieloftamriel 4 года назад +12

      Isn't it also strange that Dissidia NT also got the "Other Worldy" outfit for Noctis, even though Square pretty much denied Versus XIII and Nomura's involvement entirely? Why bring up the past now, unless a certain someone has been making plans...

    • @pokespartytv8086
      @pokespartytv8086 4 года назад +4

      Abner Filio “how do you know me as yozora”

  • @TheBadassTonberry
    @TheBadassTonberry 4 года назад +219

    Short answer: Nomura never got over Versus 13
    Long answer: Tetsuya Nomura never got over Final Fantasy Versus 13 being canned.

    • @zemom.a.8171
      @zemom.a.8171 4 года назад +31

      To be honest: I NEVER DID EITHER

    • @gdragonismygod
      @gdragonismygod 4 года назад +4

      Hopefully he makes it!

    • @deepmind5318
      @deepmind5318 4 года назад +24

      Shorter answer; nomura is creating versus 13 within kingdom hearts. Like a motherfreaking boss

    • @Firestar4041
      @Firestar4041 4 года назад +13

      Another answer: SCREW YOU GUYS! I'm taking my emo fantasy children, AND MAKING MY OWN FINAL FANTASY! With Skulls! And keyblades!

    • @deepmind5318
      @deepmind5318 4 года назад +2

      @@Firestar4041 everybody is emo. Emo stands for emotional. If you have no emotions, then you're dead. Oh and sora is a 15 year old teenager that's just too happy. To be fair though, I would also be obnoxiously happy if i were in a Disney world. The game is rated E for everyone, not C for children.

  • @koto2211
    @koto2211 4 года назад +75

    Okay about the crystallization... The only three times we have seen someone become a crystal are 1. When Xion was killed by Roxas in KH 348/2 days, when Kairi was killed by Master Xehanort in KH3, and now when Sora is defeated by Yozora in Re:mind.
    So technically the crystallization process has been in the series since 2009 when Days released. Note how Xion slowly crystallizes and after she closes her eyes and dies, she becomes a full crystal that banishes into light and leaves a single seashell behind, just like how Serah leaves a crystallized tear and, how Kairi leaves pieces of her heart. That said, Both Xion and Kairi died and became crystals. So in this ending of the Yozora fight, either Sora actually dies, or he was absorbed by Yozora just like how Xion was absorbed by Sora.
    Could it be that Nomura the absolute madman was thinking of mixing both The Fábula Nova series with kingdom hearts all the way back in 2009, ten years ago?!

    • @koto2211
      @koto2211 4 года назад +1

      @@Incepted Riku Replica was also made by Vexen but he did not crystallized in CoM and he exploded into light in KH3. Only Xion crystallized, and I think it had to do with the fact Xion became her own person instead of being a Roxas copy.

    • @123kh2
      @123kh2 4 года назад +3

      @@koto2211 he didn't get crystalized in kh3 cause he had no body in kh3, he lost it in the realm of darkness and came back with riku. He didn't crystalize in CoM because he didn't die in CoM.

  • @axelxenith8294
    @axelxenith8294 4 года назад +79

    I believe what we're seeing in the cutscene between Sora and Yozora is from the players perspective. Meaning, we don't actually see how Sora and Yozora actually look to each other, which is why Yozora said he doesn't really look like that, and why he wonders why Sora is using that name. I think they actually see each other in a completely different form than what we are seeing in the cutscene.

    • @LimitSoraKH
      @LimitSoraKH 4 года назад +2

      nice theory but i dont see any reason why it would be like that and even what form they would have

    • @LadieAlien
      @LadieAlien 4 года назад +5

      Axel Xenith how would Sora recognize Yozora as himself then? If he recognized him from Verum Rex? You think Sora saw Yozora as someone else entirely different, but still knew who he was?

    • @LadieAlien
      @LadieAlien 4 года назад +6

      Blade Ponds I believe the entire fight took place inside Yozora’s dreams. Which is why it cuts to him sleeping and then saying he’s been having weird thoughts. If anything, we would be seeing the characters from Yozora’s pov in my opinion

    • @axelxenith8294
      @axelxenith8294 4 года назад

      The main thing I'm trying to say is Sora doesn't look like Sora to him

    • @raphhdtv3056
      @raphhdtv3056 4 года назад +1

      The Sora that Yozora is referring to is the nameless star in the final world. Nameless Star>Nameless Girl
      Also, she said his appearance was twisted beyond recognition and Yozora himself says that isn't what he looks like

  • @ayyachris
    @ayyachris 4 года назад +172

    “All of this makes me believe that Yozora is Noctis Lucis Caelum.”
    So, in FFXV, when Noctis disappeared for a long time before reuniting with Ignis and the other, he ended up in the KH series and met someone in that series and somehow his appearance and name was changed. Ahahaha!

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +28

      😂 That would actually be insane

    • @ayyachris
      @ayyachris 4 года назад +7

      WaterKH #Nomura’sRevenge

    • @christianguerrero70
      @christianguerrero70 4 года назад +7

      MF looks like a discount Riku... couldn't have changed up his design alittle bit more?

    • @pokespartytv8086
      @pokespartytv8086 4 года назад +2

      Christian Guerrero they all look the same. Spikey haired anime characters with either blonde, black or grey hair. Thats anime lol

    • @hypeman1825
      @hypeman1825 4 года назад +5

      @@pokespartytv8086 ehhh i mean yeah.... but in this case they are literally identical lol. Besides this is Nomura... he may be a crappy writer but his character designs are always on point. Lol this man said "Whatever just copy and paste Riku but change his eye color"

  • @Jaxv3r
    @Jaxv3r 4 года назад +97

    if you combind Verum Rex = "Ver"
    and Falsus Rex = "sus"
    you get = VERSUS
    *MIND BLOWN*

  • @KnightBX
    @KnightBX 4 года назад +119

    I just hope we get a Verum Rex game. I wanna play as yozora and finally get the versus 13 we been waiting for.

    • @zemom.a.8171
      @zemom.a.8171 4 года назад +12

      We all do buddy...this might actually happen since square actually owns the verum rex brand...the only question is,will it be as dark as vs13? Because vs13 was VERRRY dark themed.

    • @KnightBX
      @KnightBX 4 года назад +6

      Zemo M.A. doubt it. If it’s part of the kingdom hearts series, then it won’t be very dark or have blood. But I can see it being pretty “mature” compared to kingdom hearts. Like a lot of people dying or some serious topics happening.

    • @zemom.a.8171
      @zemom.a.8171 4 года назад +12

      @@KnightBX well,unlike KH,verum rex is not owned by disney. Its owned by square enix. So they COULD make it a higher rated title if they wanted to

    • @carsondiaz667
      @carsondiaz667 4 года назад +1

      @@zemom.a.8171 What makes you say that Square Enix owns it and not Disney?

    • @carsondiaz667
      @carsondiaz667 4 года назад +5

      @@KnightBX I think a game can have a dark tone without having a lot of "mature" content. I think it has a lot to do with the writing. And as far as violence, characters die in Kingdom Hearts without blood and the emotional impact is still there.

  • @owenbar5055
    @owenbar5055 4 года назад +64

    Sora has the power of waking. Makes sense yozora has the power of sleeping? Wonder if yozora saves sora by completing his "focus"

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 4 года назад +1

      Owen Bar oooo

    • @nox_cadit
      @nox_cadit 4 года назад +10

      Sora lost that power according to Chyriti (the dream eater cat, I don't know how it's written)

  • @dazigolding5814
    @dazigolding5814 4 года назад +26

    If I may make a Critical Connection. Something no one brings up is how Sarah's theme in Xiii is called 'The Promose', Yet Roxas' theme is called 'The Other Promise'. It's almost as if Xiii, KH2 and so on where meant to be connected by Roxas and Sarah in some form.

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +5

      Damn, this is quite intriguing, good shout!

    • @coralineferol1855
      @coralineferol1855 4 года назад +2

      THIS IS SO CONFUSING XD i love both games though

    • @KubkaKawyprzyGrze
      @KubkaKawyprzyGrze 4 года назад +3

      And let's be honest its FF XIII, fucking XIII, you know like... half of things in kingdom hearts universe

  • @jacobpourchot6294
    @jacobpourchot6294 4 года назад +53

    The world for the secret ending battle being data and Yozora's attacks being data make sense to me. Verum Rex is supposed to be a video game so why wouldn't it be a datascape. Also shout out to Bio-Roxas for showing me this video great job!

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +3

      Yeah, so many data references, if you haven’t seen my previous video, I talk through all of that! Oh awesome, that’s awesome you got here through Bio!

  • @PreferredWhale6
    @PreferredWhale6 4 года назад +80

    Somnus is also the name of Ardyn's brother, who was the Founder King, when - FFXV Ardyn Spoilers - Ardyn was actually the Chosen King. Somnus kills Ardyn's Fiancee and then imprisons him on Angelgaad for 2000 years. So the False King and True King stuff is a relevant theme.

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +13

      Oh wow, this actually could have relevance, good idea! I’m really going to have to play it now 😂

    • @PreferredWhale6
      @PreferredWhale6 4 года назад +10

      @@HupCapNinja Ardyn does disguise himself as others, you're right, so interesting! But I'm pretty sure his armiger is legitimately his, not mimicking Noctis'.

    • @phantomofvanitas
      @phantomofvanitas 4 года назад +3

      The dlc cutscene for Yozora in the theater is called false king 👌

    • @horrorpill
      @horrorpill 4 года назад +9

      Somnus song actually is referring to God Bhunivelze, the God of Light who sleeps in Fabula Nove Crystallis lore. The logo is actually Goddess of Death, Goddess Etro, sleeping with Noctis from Versus XIII, who probably grants him the power to crystal sleep and enter dreams. In the lore, Goddess Etro is God Bhunivelze's enemy.
      Crystal sleep so far existed in Fabula Nova Crystallis lore, and can only be granted by Gods and Goddesses after a completed focus. So, FFXV should not be in the same lore as FFXIII.
      The true king and false king is probably referring to Nomura's vision of Noctis in Versus and Tabata's version of Noctis in FFXV.

    • @PreferredWhale6
      @PreferredWhale6 4 года назад +2

      @@horrorpill Ok, even if Somnus (the main theme song of FFXV) is about Bhunivelze, wouldn't that lend more evidence to the idea that FFXV is actually part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis universe? That would be kind of weird if they made a song about Bhunivelze, made it the main theme song of FFXV and then didn't include FFXV in the same universe as Bhunivelze.
      I also get the feeling that you haven't played the ending of FFXV at least, because the logo that I think you're talking about is literally created in the end cutscene with Lunafreya and Noctis.

  • @StarseekerAtlas
    @StarseekerAtlas 4 года назад +12

    Loved that you mentioned Nomura's mark! A lot of people seem to miss that.

  • @ianmata1998
    @ianmata1998 4 года назад +23

    i love Fabula Nova Crystallis, and, i'm happy that is going to return in KH, so, we have to wait until the day comes

  • @donvon7766
    @donvon7766 4 года назад +19

    After following FFV13 from the beginning all the way to FF15 and seeing this in KH3 I am excited all over again! Awesome vid keep it up!

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +4

      Yeah Nomura I think is really trying to bring it back!

    • @donvon7766
      @donvon7766 4 года назад

      I believe so as well and I'm glad to see it happening in KH

    • @meevil24
      @meevil24 4 года назад

      @@WaterKH Nomura can deny it all he wants. We know the truth

  • @TheXBOXLIVEPARTY
    @TheXBOXLIVEPARTY 4 года назад +14

    Btw another thing worth mentioning is that Destati, one of the main leitmotifs of KH means Awaken, further supporting VsXIII originally being the antithesis to KH, since its main leitmotif is Somnus.

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +3

      Oh, I did not know this! Very interesting!

    • @ok_listen
      @ok_listen 4 года назад

      Yea, in italian is basically (you) wake up.

  • @deltahawkins7490
    @deltahawkins7490 4 года назад +14

    Here's my theory:
    Yozora is an AI from the datascape, traveling from world to world, and donning the guise of whatever figure fits in best in whatever world Yozora visits. After encountering Sora, Yozora was told to "save him" by turning him to crystal. My theory is that the person who told Yozora to crystallize Sora is actually the next main villain of the new saga, with this new fake Yozora being a minor antagonist.

  • @gatst7680
    @gatst7680 4 года назад +20

    I was actually just looking into the lore of the Fabula Nova Crystallis and it is very interesting!

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +1

      It really is!

    • @gatst7680
      @gatst7680 4 года назад +4

      @@WaterKH
      Makes me wish Versus XIII was a real thing

    • @meevil24
      @meevil24 4 года назад +2

      The original concept intrigued me. Shame it fell apart

    • @blackchase6732
      @blackchase6732 4 года назад

      ffxv is part of the fnc

  • @motionisdead9796
    @motionisdead9796 4 года назад +51

    Well, uhm. Longpost theory. Hope y'all don't mind.
    The slogan of "reclaim your heart" is super important here.
    The Nameless Star already mentioned that Yozora's heart was replcaed with another's, and that is the reason why he does not remember her, at least not clearly enough to desperately search for her. He didn't react, when Sora mentioned the "girl" either. So, something must've happened to Yozora that warranted the fact that his heart was replaced, yet he's partially the same, if he remembers his own appearance. That is, unless the only thing that was changed was his heart, and his body, while his memories were not.
    A heart shapes the body, which would explain the reason why Yozora's appearance is different from the intial one. His heart was replaced, therefore he looks different.
    Anoter thing about this slogan is that hearts can be stolen, but not necessarily by Heartless. The Nameless Star had her heart taken away, by somebody. She wasn't surprised that Sora mentioned Heartless, nor she was asking about the Nobodies. It's as if she has the knowledge of what the Heartless, Nobodies & Somebodies are. That'd mean she must also know about the Keyblades.
    I'm not surprised, since she holds the star as her symbol, even on her necklace. There is a sign of Darklings existing inside Tokyo, and the proof of this is the box art of KH3. There's a gargoyle Darkling holding a star just under Sora. If Darklings exist inside the reality of Yozora & the Nameless Star & if The Nameless Star knows about the Keyblades, it'd mean that Keyblade wielders exist, or existed inside Yozora's reality. But wait....what about the Master? He's a scholar, that's for sure, but at the same time, it's like he's a programmer too. He introduce the concept of data to KHX, where he made a realm for the Dandelions to settle after the finale of the Great Keyblade War. He possesed a computer room inside Daybreak Town Clock Tower and had insight into every World projected by the Book of Prophecies based on the camera's showing footage. It's almost like.....he knew everything. Then, if Verum Rex is a game could it be that the Master could be that the Master is one of the developers of Verum Rex?
    I per se, am eager to believe it, but I don't think that'd make Sora's reality false. Rather, I'd be eager to believe that the Master purposefully crossed between Yozora & Sora's realities multiples times, and used the knowledge he obtained by travelling the giant World before the divide to push his plan further. It's like he made sure to created Verum Rex in order for Yozora & Sora to meet. He must've know that there will be a World, where Verum Rex will appear as fiction, that both of the realities are in some way connected to each other. Maybe, while visiting Yozora's reality, he has seen the scenario of Sora's journey through a game, or an animation, or whatever. Just like Sora would technically be able to play Verum Rex inside Toy Box and learn more about Yozora's future.
    Maybe that's why the World before the divide was so huge that no one could traverse it. Time & space seems to be distorted there, to the point of several locations being more advanced than the others. All of the worlds being one before the Great Keyblade War, and the ability to travel to each and one of them. Yet, Hercules portrays Ancient Greece, while there also exist modern worlds like Toy Story. Or worlds that are antithesis to a singular cities, Sanfransokyo being an example.
    Then...what about Yozora being a Commander? And what's his connection to Verum Rex?
    Yozora's true name is, Yozora. That's why he said "why did you recognize me as Yozora?" -- indicating that there must be a gap between his current apperance & his real name. That further sheds a light on the fact that he may be known under a different name with his current apperance, and his abilities use data-based projections to alter the reality as you've said.
    All of this combined is pushing me closer to believe that Verum Rex is real, and it is a game as portrayed inside the Toy Box. Not just any game though. Inside of FFXV trailer, we see that Noctis' is looking towards the direction of the citadel, which is surrounded by Nibelheim ships(corret me, if I'm wrong). What if, Yozora is actually looking at the same scenery? What if, his world is on the verge of war? That'd explain why he is referred to as Commander. Verum Rex itself may be a military project, that uses data in order to alter the reality and potentially collect resources & power from other realities in-order to gain military strength. Then, why Yozora was convinced that the Final World is not real? I think, that here is where the reality and fantasy blends so to speak.
    Let's assume that Verum Rex is able to project everything, as long as you have the capabilities to do so. It'd possess a lot of restrictions to not make just about everyone gain immense power, or be lost somewhere? Don't you think? If so, then they'd use various discernments to reject and not believe what just appears to the users' of Verum Rex. They'd label it as a projection, nothing more than something that doesn't exist. Contrary to that, the Final World Sora & Yozora met in was undoubtly real. Otherwise, Sora's Station of Awakening wouldn't have been shown there. To me, the fact that Sora's Station of Awakening was present there, was a sign that he is being slowly stripped of his power and getting ready to be thrown out of his own reality. Sora, at this point, must've lost the Power of Waking and placed inside a lobby worl(The Final World) before losing his own powers completely & getting thrown into Tokyo/Shibuya. Yozora being tasked with "saving him" is esentially stopping any progression of Sora's loss of powers, and potentially another memory loss. Preserving him for the person that asked to "save Sora."
    This is getting crazier, but I think that Yozora is not the only person that is struggling with memory loss and his heart being replaced. Sora, at first hand, appears to be a normal person. He lived his life, and never had any memory problems up until the ending of Chain of Memories. Even so, some of the the memories, like the ones of Data Sora eventually found its way to him.
    But what about memories prior to his life? Why are there drawings of the future events inside the cave located in Destiny Island? Why was Sora questioning, if his world is real(the opening of KH1) before he even obtained a Keyblade and learned about the outside worlds? I think there's more to Sora, and to Riku that we think. The Master himself may've known Sora's & Riku's past incarnations, or the whole thing is a time loop. Would I believe that the Master is Sora? Nah, but he's certainly someone that knows Sora, Riku & Yozora, and even has a strong connections to them.
    Additonally, because I kind of wandered off course to explain the idea behind all of this. Yozora's participation and achievements in Verum Rex could've granted him the title of a Commander in the country he is working for. Whatever is the reason of why he is participating in Verum Rex project, the side effect of it is the fact that his heart was stolen and replaced by someone. The fact that Verum Rex is ultimately something created for the sake of stealing hearts. And if you tie it to the fact that the Master of Masters was/is:
    -> On the side of light, fighting from the start of the Keyblade War
    ->Had no ties to darknesss except the fact that he fought against it
    -> Is not human, but looks like one. The darkness that took forms has taken the same appearance as the Master and his companions, and Luxu assumed that they must've been human(because he knows how the Master looks like), to which Master replied that "he never said that." It's indirectly implying that the Master could've been created the same way as the darkness that borrowerd their forms, that he is a spawn of light, without a heart(since he is not human) & unable to wield darkness. Would explain why he wears the black coat and is "too much of a scaredy cat" to take it off. That's from his convo with Xehanort as well. The darkness may as well have a hugely negative effect of someone that is fully comprised of light. Like immediately corrupting them.
    -> Was tired of the endless war between the light & darkness, implying that he could not abandon the conflict by himself. It's possible that he had no will of his own, despite having sentience. That he was forced to fight as long as the light desired it. Maybe, having a heart is like being granted with freedom?
    -> Got pissed off at Xehanort mentioning that the weak ones desirous of power should be left to darkness(look at his hands getting clenched during that fragment of their conversation). Potentially hinting at the fact that the Master's companions were tired of being forced to fight against darkness & went for a shortcut of obtaining power in-order to end the War, but instead fell to darkness.
    It all becomes clear. It's like some Black Clover type of scenario, where Licht made it possible for the extinct elves to be reincarnated as humans & ensued rebellion against humans that betrayed them. The Master could've very well wanted to nurture hearts & mass-produce Keyblade wielders to then commence a plan that'd replace the hearts of those Keyblade wielders with the essence of his fallen companions, esentially reviving them and granting them bodies with hearts. This way, they'd be able to end the conflict of light and darkness & truly destroy the World(as the Master jokingly mentioned at the segment, where he told Xehanort "I can tell you I dream of the world peace!!! While I'm actually planning to destroy it").
    That was really long, so thanks for reading all of it, if you managed to!

    • @narutoxo
      @narutoxo 4 года назад +1

      Convoluted to say the least 😅

    • @chrisburns658
      @chrisburns658 4 года назад +6

      Loved it. Worth the read. A lot of things I've been thinking as well, and a lot I haven't considered. Much to think about now.

    • @Yanikchan
      @Yanikchan 4 года назад +1

      best thing I've read today about all this. Ty!

    • @hueyrileyandjazmine
      @hueyrileyandjazmine 4 года назад +1

      Read the whole thing! Great theory and well said! Definitely more exciting for the future of kh more than ever!

    • @sonny5552
      @sonny5552 4 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing man, it was a good read & you make some great points.

  • @richierust
    @richierust 4 года назад +32

    If he is Noctis, what if this is canon, post-FFXV. And the reason Yozora (Noctis) is in the same place as Sora is because they both gave their lives using their unique powers to save people? And Sora and Yozora then play a role in saving each other and restoring each other.

  • @seraphimseptimus6984
    @seraphimseptimus6984 4 года назад +9

    If we are running with the coding theme, which fits Yozora's data world, then I am guessing that storing Sora in a crystal within a data world is a reference to crystal data storage systems.

  • @MarshmallowRadiation
    @MarshmallowRadiation 4 года назад +5

    Here's my idea regarding Yozora's confusion on names: In his world, he's in disguise. His real name is "Yozora" but his cover's name is "Sora." That's why he asks why Sora goes by Sora, and why Sora recognizes him as Yozora. The reason for him being undercover may be because he's being hunted by usurpers in his world, and had to go into hiding to protect his identity as the true king.

  • @BurstFlare
    @BurstFlare 4 года назад +27

    HE CAN STEAL YOUR KEYBLADE?!

    • @SolOrSolana
      @SolOrSolana 4 года назад +5

      LMAOOOOOOO

    • @HotWheels24seven
      @HotWheels24seven 4 года назад +3

      I feel like there's more to this that could be explored. When all have we seen keyblades being taken in the series?

    • @akira1699
      @akira1699 4 года назад

      @@HotWheels24seven before yozora I think it was just sora vs roxas

    • @EmiL_from_NieR
      @EmiL_from_NieR 3 года назад +1

      YOUR POWER IS MINEEEEE

  • @FreddytheIV
    @FreddytheIV 4 года назад +27

    From what I can see, Yozora shares more similarities with Sora, Riku & Kairi than any of them do with each other.
    - He shares Kairi's ability to travel to The Final World via the realm of sleep
    - His appearance is very much like Riku's; from the hair, the outfit, the brooding attitude, etc.
    - His fighting style and slight cockiness in his ability is reminiscent of Sora at his most confident; there is also something funny to me that Sora is basically wearing Yozora's outfit in the Toy Box world but has the same hair and eye color as Yozora's girl.
    When bringing up Ardyn and "Falsus Rex", I remembered that Ardyn was meant to be the True King in FFXV, but his brother Somnus betrayed him for the throne and imprisoned him, taking his place as king. He was chosen by Bahamut to be the scapegoat of the star scourge; to be seen as the one true evil and to ultimately be slain by the descendant of Somnus, Noctis. It makes perfect sense that his flashes are Ardyn's red; Ardyn was to be the true king not what would eventually be Noctis, much like Yozora is meant to be the true version of Noctis, the true king.
    I believe that Yozora is not his true name and "Sora" may not be the true name of the person he was referring to in the final episode. I believe they are nicknames for each other. Their names and appearances were lost and stripped from each other from what it seems, so I believe these nicknames for each other is how they keep each other in their memories.
    I don't believe the battle in the Secret Episode between Sora & Yozora actually happened. Secret boss encounters are very usually non-cannon as they are never ever referenced in follow-up titles. I do think Yozora met Sora in his dreams but not in reality, but I think Sora had to live that dream twice; once where he loses, another where he wins. I think there may be mention of it the next time we see Yozora in a KH title, but he'll say that he had a version of the dream where he won, and another where he lost, but it was to the same boy who called himself Sora.

    • @farhanmohamad9027
      @farhanmohamad9027 4 года назад +1

      That secret boss is not canon in the story pointed out in your thoughts is on point! Same does like xemnas in khfm, lingering will in kh2fm, and young xehanort in kh bbs. But the latter will be added as the main story of the game.

    • @MrKami96
      @MrKami96 4 года назад +2

      @@farhanmohamad9027 I'm not sure whether or not I understood your comments correctly (secret boss encounters not being referenced in other titles) but didn't Xemnas mention to Roxas in 358/2 that he met Sora? As in he met Sora in KHFM? Or are you saying the encounters themselves are canon but not the actual fighting? Sorry maybe I'm just getting my wires crossed here.

    • @farhanmohamad9027
      @farhanmohamad9027 4 года назад +2

      @@MrKami96 actually I didn't notice Xemnas mentioned that to Roxas in 358/2 so I pulled the conclusion both the encounter and fight of optional bosses is nom canonical. But I do aware that Xemnas didnt give the detail about how he met Sora back in Hollow Bastion, so I still believe that secret boss appearances are meant to tease us about the upcoming game. Its my belief tho, just let Nomura do his magic.

    • @MrKami96
      @MrKami96 4 года назад

      @@farhanmohamad9027 It is the only instance I recall where a secret boss referenced the encounter, so maybe it was a one time thing. Just as you said, let Nomura do his magic, he'll know what he's doing (I feel like I'm going to regret making that statement in the future. Don't let us down Nomura, please...)

  • @LingeringFlower
    @LingeringFlower 4 года назад +4

    You know, when Yozora said "This isn't my real appearance" it kinda reminded me of Xion, since her face would looked different to those that see her. The different eye color could symbolized Verse 13 Noctis with his eyes being red and FFXV Noctis with his eyes being blue.

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +3

      Oh that’s an interesting idea 🤔 In VsXIII and XV his eye color changes from blue to red depending on if he’s using his powers or not 😄

  • @NJHixion
    @NJHixion 4 года назад +3

    Yozora is Nomura's way of saying that FF15 never happened and we should just forget it ever happened.

  • @loggizzo
    @loggizzo 4 года назад +2

    If yozora is skilled with data (creating a datascape, using data as a weapon), it would make sense that he would use a video game character (made of data) as his avatar in person. That would help explain why he’s shocked sora sees him as yozora

  • @tuccerina
    @tuccerina 4 года назад +2

    i know this is months later but dont forget that in ff15 ardyn was supposed to be the king at first but got betrayed by his brother and his brother's bloodline kept becoming king so therefore noctis isnt really the true king.

  • @BioRoxas
    @BioRoxas 4 года назад +44

    This was so good!! If someone is crystallized do they become forgotten? If so that could be evidence that the bad ending isn’t canon since Riku states that they all remember Sora in the limit cut episode.

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +4

      They don’t forget, but that would be interesting. I think in Type-0 someone was saying when you die you’re forgotten

    • @1465angelosornio
      @1465angelosornio 4 года назад +3

      Aren’t both of you guys Brothers?

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +10

      Shhhh, don’t give us away 👀 But yeah, twins actually 😬

    • @1465angelosornio
      @1465angelosornio 4 года назад +4

      WaterKH DO YOU KNOW HOW HAPPY I AM JUST READING THAT

    • @Fannintendociccio1
      @Fannintendociccio1 4 года назад +6

      Crystal stasis doesn't make you forget the victim under normal circumstances. The reason why aerith and riku mention that they remember sora is a reference to when sora lost his chain of memories in Com which caused everyone else to also lose their memories of him since their connections were broken. So they deduced its not the same case

  • @HolsovanUltimate
    @HolsovanUltimate 4 года назад +8

    I would honestly be all over that. Cause I adore Noctis already as it is.

  • @lovesgibson
    @lovesgibson 4 года назад +23

    Yozora says, “this isn’t what I really look like”. What if he really looks like Noctis because he is noctis.
    And the voice actor of Noctis is also the MoM, so what if Noctis is actually the MoM.
    Jk I have no idea

  • @dreamydonno
    @dreamydonno 4 года назад +10

    I thought that sounded like Somnus!!!! :O

  • @enesutkuozdemir7335
    @enesutkuozdemir7335 3 года назад +3

    In the FFXV Dawn of The Future book, Noctis sleeps in crystal and goes "trials" in another worlds like versus XIII trailer for 10 years. I wonder, what do these trials look like?

  • @kanden27
    @kanden27 4 года назад +1

    The Luxord connection to the driver makes sense. Considering he was talking to Luxu/Xigbar at the beginning of Remind. With Xigbar stating “Who are you, Luxord?” From what I remember, we never found out and knew very little about Luxord before he became a nobody.

  • @omgitsvikka
    @omgitsvikka 4 года назад +2

    Gladiolus: "So, Noctis, what the heck were you doing inside that crystal for so long?"
    Noctis: "Oh boy, let me tell you about this kid named Sora."

  • @SharpVCN
    @SharpVCN 3 года назад +1

    “Listen to how they both say impressive”
    Driver: Impressive
    Luxord: *KEYBLADE SLASHES*

  • @RainSennin_ismyAlt
    @RainSennin_ismyAlt 4 года назад +1

    'Yozora' did say that his current body isn't the real him, he went through some trials and was told to 'save Sora'.
    Hm, did Leon and the gang ask Noctis to save him?

  • @ninjaeris131
    @ninjaeris131 4 года назад +3

    If Yozora is Noctis, could he be his avatar in that phone game he plays all the time?

  • @SonnyFRST
    @SonnyFRST 4 года назад +1

    Nomura said a couple times fans tend to overthink things.
    In this case, I think Nomura just redesigned Noctis as a middle finger to the Square executives who kicked him out of FF15's development. (Which he was most likely dragged into, going by Square's track record of slapping Nomura's name onto everything)

  • @XirchsYamatoClyne
    @XirchsYamatoClyne 4 года назад +1

    Nomura himself definitely sleeps a lot bro... I waited for his games since second year of highschool, 15 years ago....

  • @SolOrSolana
    @SolOrSolana 4 года назад +6

    This might sound like crack but what if no one escaped the data worlds from the union X, like what if the reason why they say “is any of this real?” Is because they’ve been living in the masters data scape so when people die or sleep they get taken to the actual Final world while the dark one was just one created through data. So with that being said. What if we take a new route in the series where everyone is released from the data worlds and we go to the real world where everything is kinda reconnected since we reconnected kingdom hearts and now we’re about to fulfill our path to return to reality and maybe the only time we’ve been in the real world was during the browser version of unchained x and the movie from 0.2...but hey, I’m just thinking too much lmaooo

  • @TronSAHeroXYZ
    @TronSAHeroXYZ 4 года назад +5

    The DLC is named "ReMind" because Sora needs to remind himself of who he really is, YOZORA, the "TRUE KING"!
    5:20 "The Trials Yozora went through" meaning he has completed the Mark of Mastery, thats why he has an cross and skull on his sleve because he has the "X"Sigil. His trials lead him to acquire Keyblade Master's powers, that's how he's able to manipulate the skyline and access Sora's Heart. Because HE IS SORA, who is a Keyblade master and has Master power to manipulate the sky.
    I personally think that Yozora is a manifestation of a Future version of Sora and Riku that combined, and exist inside Riku's Dream's. Riku is Dreaming of a future version of Sora, who manifests as "Yozora", who is a Future version of Sora who saves himself by planting his own heart into his past version, to "Save Sora" from his own body from the future. No paradox there.
    The "Subject X" is Yozora's Girlfriend, who is the "Nameless Star" who inherits Kairi's heart "FROM THE FUTURE". The future version of Kairi and Sora exist, but they don't remember who they are.
    Yozora is Sora from the future. The "Nameless Star" is Kairi from the "Future" who is also Yozora/Sora from the future's Girl Friend.
    Sora needs to recieve his "BIRTH BY SLEEP", by "ReMinding" himself "Riku" who "Sora" really is "Yozora". A combination of Riku "Darkness/Night" and Sora "Sky" "NightSky". Makes complete sense.

    • @OrganizationXIII
      @OrganizationXIII 3 года назад

      Great explanation but man kingdom hearts is really hard to follow sometimes! But I think you might be right it makes sense to me!

    • @TronSAHeroXYZ
      @TronSAHeroXYZ 3 года назад

      @@OrganizationXIII He's like Sora having connections to all Hearts, he's just the Dark Version. Since Nomura had to keep Sora in the Light Realm. Yozora is Sora, but he's learned to channel his Darkness into power, and not let it consume him. Remember what the MoM said to Young Xehanort, "You wont need the black coat, you'll be the one controlling the Darkness" He was probably referring to Yazora.

  • @isauronissan9254
    @isauronissan9254 4 года назад +4

    Didn’t Sora have to go through trials to save everyone’s hearts? What if the trials Yozora went through are the one connected to finally reach Sora to save Sora’s heart?

  • @DkKombo
    @DkKombo 4 года назад +2

    Fans: We want more final fantasy characters!!!
    Nomura: Hm hm hm hmmmm....soon...

  • @PSNMirru
    @PSNMirru 2 года назад +1

    Yozora could easily be Noctis’ Nobody or something of the sort.
    Yozora recognizing Sora could be alluding to the fact that the M.o.M was in that world and maybe had some interaction with Yozora and maybe the M.o.M is an older-time traveling Sora. 🤷🏾‍♂️
    Who knows. Xehanort learned how to time travel to some extent

  • @AutobotWheeljack
    @AutobotWheeljack 4 года назад +8

    did you know that you scene where rex mentions those 2 characters is not in the full game of kh3?

    • @TacoLex
      @TacoLex 3 года назад

      I noticed that at E3 2018 while playing the demo that whole Magia and Aegis scene is cut. Same with a Super smash Bros Easter egg on a sticky note on Andy’s board found in the actual game b it the smash egg isn’t there.

  • @deepmind5318
    @deepmind5318 4 года назад +1

    It's pretty obvious that within yozora's lore, he is a sort of reincarnation or the heart of noctis in another form. Yozora claims that he himself doesn't look the way we are looking at him, further implying that he is directly noctis from versus/FF 15. As for how yozora knows sora, that's a whole other can of worms, but if we listen carefully, yozora also implies that there is another sora from another reality that doesn't look like the sora we know of. I expect another sora with a different look, just like noctis is yozora, to be introduced. Kingdom hearts began introducing time travel, parallel realities, multiple personalities, and i believe the aim was to simply make final fantasy versus 13 from within kingdom hearts.
    P.s after kingdom hearts 3, kairi has slept for one whole year. Possibly hinting that these characters will continue to grow older in a similar way to how Naruto or dragon Ball z ages their characters. Yozora's realistic gun makes me think wether kingdom hearts ESRB rating will reach T for teens.

  • @mattmcnally1616
    @mattmcnally1616 4 года назад +2

    Something makes me think Yozora and Brain from Union X maybe connected in some way, the clothing, hair are obvious choices, but with Union X still chugging through their final act this could be an easy alternative for Nomura instead of infusing all of the FFXV characters into KH, Vermont Rex instead chewing more align with original VersusXIII plot lines/characters

  • @zemom.a.8171
    @zemom.a.8171 4 года назад +2

    I would've mentioned that tabata once said that noctis from ff15 and noctis from vs13 are 2 entirely different characters and entities.
    In this video it just seems as if you were putting them both as one character but they're not.
    Therefore,picking similarities between yozora and ff15 noctis doesnt make a whole lot of sense. Instead there are other similarities you can make between yozora and vs13 noctis.
    Tho imo all the visual changes like the data-particles on yozora or his riku-like design,all that can be chalked off as "necessary design changes" so that the devs cant be blamed by the company for using other titles' characters/designs.
    I mean thats exactly WHY yozora has different haircolor and all. Its just a meaningless excuse to not get sued by the own company.
    But if you look at the abilities that yozora has,camera angles & whatnot,its obvious that he is vs13s noctis.
    We just dont know if square will let nomura continue this long enough for the fans to learn the story of vs13 or if square shuts it down like how they have done it for the dissidia vs13 costume.
    Nomura:"wait we can say that name now(vs13)"?
    Director of dissidia NT: " yes"
    Nomura:"ah well because earlier we werent allowed to say it"
    Dissidia NT director: "it is complicated"

  • @sleepy-fc6rf
    @sleepy-fc6rf 3 года назад +1

    Something you forgot to mention:
    During some of Yozora's attacks involving his sword, you can see what appears to be Sora's flowmotion "glass" effects shattering around him, except colored red like everything else Yozora does.
    So, it seems wherever he's from, flowmotion is actually a thing. Which connects to a personal theory of mine; Quadratum, Yozora, all of it is taking place in the realm of sleep.
    Quadratum itself being a sleeping world--not the *real* world, but an extremely convincing copy--and Yozora being the "sleeping avatar" of someone else (aka Noctis.)
    Similar to how Sora and Riku changed appearance drastically upon entering the Sleeping Worlds initially. This is also where they learned about flowmotion, which appeared to only exist in the sleeping Traverse Town before Sora brought his knowledge of it with him into the waking world in KH3.
    So, Yozora knows how to use flowmotion because he exists in a sleeping world, and Riku can only access Quadratum in his *dreams* because the world exists in the realm of sleep itself.
    That, and the portal which Riku uses to enter Quadratum at the end of Melody of Memory appears identical to the portals seen in the sleeping worlds.
    Granted, they did make a couple of other appearances outside the sleeping worlds in KH3, but the overwhelming majority of portals like them we've seen existed in the realm of sleep.
    We don't know for sure (and may not for quite a long time indeed) but this strikes me as a fairly plausible theory.
    Your thoughts?

    • @Nomad
      @Nomad 3 года назад

      Honestly that sounds too simple but really cool

  • @Omnibus4Everyone
    @Omnibus4Everyone 4 года назад +2

    This is an interesting take on the Noctis and Yozora comparison. I think the fact that the ideas and themes form Versus XIII now present themselves through Yozora is blatantly obvious.
    I do like your take on the idea that the Yozora we fight, is actually not Yozora.
    Also, I want to point out one thing. This doesn't go against anything in the video in particular, but it's just a small correction:
    Lightning and Co. don't uncrystallize because the threat is eliminated. It's because the "threat is eliminated" that they crystallized in the first place. The Goddess Etro mourns their fate and uncrystallizes them with her power and this has huge ramifications later.

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +1

      Oh wow, yeah as someone who hasn’t personally played the games (and now can’t since they took them off of PS) I was relying more on the snippets I looked through when researching! Thank you for pointing this out though

    • @Omnibus4Everyone
      @Omnibus4Everyone 4 года назад

      WaterKH it’s just a small thing though. Not a big deal.
      Very cool video though!!

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад

      💙💙💙

  • @connorgray7688
    @connorgray7688 4 года назад +1

    My favorite theory is that the next AAA KH will feature the protagonist adventuring into known FF worlds in lieu of Disney worlds (although I wouldn’t mind a Moana world haha)

  • @cjninja5945
    @cjninja5945 4 года назад +2

    Okay quick thing: I don't know like anything about Final Fantasy so
    But I think Riku and Yozora are linked somehow? Maybe this possible datascape or whatever is set up by the Master of Masters or a character from Final Fantasy to use Sora for their personal gain. It could be that Yozora we see is a "corrupted" mix of Riku and Noctis or a real verison of Yozora. It would make since because I'd say a Sora without a riku is incomplete since he relies so much on his friends, and when he was brought to this world / datascape / alternate reality he fucked some shit up. Maybe this world / reality / etc is connected to Kairi in that she keeps it stable, or is allowing it to exist. Dream riku is able to enter the world to find the true sora, but can "feel" the corrupted riku/yozora watching him because in a sense, riku is connected to that yozora. The idea that this is a datascape or something of the sort would add to the fact that it's not real.
    I dunno, these are just thoughts im having while watching this during class. If it doesn't make any sense feel free to correct inaccuracies, or build off the theory.

  • @jkbobful
    @jkbobful 4 года назад +3

    you know whats interesting Yozora says that his appearance it what he usually looks like and in the game The World That Ends With You Shiki Misaki also doesn't show her true appearance and thats where seeming Sora and Yozora are fighting another interesting note in the theater of KH3 for the secret episode it says Falsus Rex meaning false king

  • @izzykim9786
    @izzykim9786 4 года назад

    I like how you analyzed not just final fantasy versus xiii but also final fantasy xv because people think Nomura is just referencing versus but I feel like he’s taking a bit from xv too!

  • @jankounchained4211
    @jankounchained4211 4 года назад +1

    I can’t find it anywhere online, but I could have sworn that back when versus 13 was announced there was an article of talks of noumea wanting to collide KH and Versus. I think back in 06/07?

  • @hellish958
    @hellish958 4 года назад +2

    1. Noctis getting his otherworldly costume in ffdissdia nt, which is super strange cuz these square enix niggas were reluctant to discussion anything related to it.
    2. All these versus stuffs popping in the kh franchise lately.
    3. Yozoro design reveals few things like a nobody type ear piercing.
    The god damn chocobo chain thingy etc.
    If yozoro is truly noctis's nobody that would be crazy.
    I hope they bring back noctis and stella (somebody). Oooooòffff🙏

  • @e-pearlm
    @e-pearlm 2 года назад +1

    How could no one not realise Yozora is Nocics but an alternate Noctis as in verses 13 Noctis with a different name XD

  • @DkKombo
    @DkKombo 4 года назад +1

    This explains how we got basically all Disney characters as now it'll be all in on final fantasy...
    Sweet.

  • @Effen_E
    @Effen_E 4 года назад +1

    I believe Yozora and Sora are like Ventus and Venitus. They are one and the same. In FF15 Noctis main goal was to bring back the sky. In other words save Sora. But first he went to sleep for 7 years. So could all of Kingdom Hearts be the long dream that Noctis was having over those 7 years? Because there are way too many coincidences to not be.

  • @SunGodRyan
    @SunGodRyan 4 года назад +6

    Watch yozora be the king of kingdom hearts

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +7

      Or... the false king 🤴

    • @SunGodRyan
      @SunGodRyan 4 года назад +3

      Maybe the "fake" yozora. Also a cool tidbit is that sometimes twins have two eye colors which could imply that yozora is a twin. Maybe the master of masters twin?

    • @pagetvido1850
      @pagetvido1850 4 года назад +2

      Does that make Sora the queen? Gives new relevance to all those chess pieces Xehanort was playing with in the intro.

    • @Klffsj
      @Klffsj 4 года назад +4

      @@SunGodRyan Yozora's twin? Must be voiced by Cole Sprouse.

    • @SunGodRyan
      @SunGodRyan 4 года назад +3

      @@Klffsj MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY

  • @DarkArmedDaddy1
    @DarkArmedDaddy1 4 года назад +2

    Notice how Rex sees Sora as Yozora. I believe Yozora is the real Sora. Or a combination of Sora and Riku.

  • @readmeplease2077
    @readmeplease2077 4 года назад +1

    For me, noctis vs13 is orginally to tie in kh3.
    With the delay one can say that ffvs13 delay delayed kh3 too

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад

      Interesting 🤔 I can see that

    • @thedothackerkeyblademaster
      @thedothackerkeyblademaster 4 года назад

      While I don't think Versus XIII was originally planned to tie into Kingdom Hearts, it's worth noting that the Tokyo team (the team behind Kingdom Hearts I and II) were originally the one's developing Versus XIII.

  • @prideworth1095
    @prideworth1095 4 года назад

    We either getting a KH4 with Yozora as the main. Or Yozora is the persona of Noctis after FFXV ended, moving in a dream-like dimension to which events of FFXV was a "trial" to ready Noctis for the real world. Yozora saying "But this isn't what I really look like." could imply getting a reboot to FF Versus XV (reference to Versus XIII), and Sora is the city's crystal that he "saved", speculations. The guy with the hat next to Yozora in Verum Rex trailer could be adult Sora LOL

  • @khmasterva6919
    @khmasterva6919 4 года назад +1

    Plot Twist: Yozora Was A FF Charcters Afterall

  • @surge123456789
    @surge123456789 4 года назад

    Some modders got hold of this game and found that yazora is a nobody, while moving the camera around they zoomed in on his left earring and found that it had the nobody markings on it.

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад

      Actually, if we look at the secret ending, we see Sora’s crown on one of the screens. Bio-Roxas then pointed out that if KH is a game in this universe, then it’s more likely that his chocobo chain and nobody/ Roxas piercing is more likely merchandise

  • @flamefox5287
    @flamefox5287 4 года назад +2

    I still can’t believe that Dylan Sprouse was the one casting as Yozora

    • @gdragonismygod
      @gdragonismygod 4 года назад

      And he did a poor job voicing him

    • @flamefox5287
      @flamefox5287 4 года назад

      g dragon is my god who do you think Yozora is? A different version of Sora, or Noctis from ff15? I hate how kingdom hearts leave more questions than answers

    • @gdragonismygod
      @gdragonismygod 4 года назад

      @@flamefox5287 from theories I heard he is the nobody of Noctis (from versus 13). Because he has earrings of the nobody symbol as well multiple lines of dialogue in the game seem to suggest that as well (like what the star in the final world said about how the person she is waiting for has been changed so much as well mentioning how they took her name, some how like if she were Stella from versus 13). So yeah..

    • @flamefox5287
      @flamefox5287 4 года назад

      g dragon is my god Not bad for a theory but until square can give us a new kingdom hearts game hopefully they will fill in the pieces as to who Yozora real identity is. I he mentioned that he doesn’t look like this so only time will tell

  • @Brandon_Lee83
    @Brandon_Lee83 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for posting this is been most excellent information. 🎤😁🤘

  • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668
    @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 2 года назад

    Theory: this vid
    Reality: Nomura is salty that Square was sick of waiting for him to settle on a game, so he made Noctis again.

  • @raen5256
    @raen5256 4 года назад +4

    Earned yourself a new subscriber :) On a side note: The world Yozora materializes is actually Shibuya from the World Ends With You, the dead giveaway is the 104 building, it's not the world where Verum Rex originated.

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 4 года назад

      Raen there’s multiple versions of Shibuya though

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +1

      Yeah, it's hard to tell if Yozora is in this Shibuya, since we don't actually see the building's numbers, but I have heard that TWEWY theory a lot, still need to play that game lol

  • @crystalmckenna5270
    @crystalmckenna5270 Год назад +1

    Luxord is the Gambier of fate

  • @DragonRage61
    @DragonRage61 4 года назад +1

    He is based on the character, Noctis Lucis Caelum!

  • @burritowyrm6530
    @burritowyrm6530 4 года назад +1

    nomura is like the kojima of square lmao

  • @carsondiaz667
    @carsondiaz667 4 года назад +1

    I wish they didnt take the music and characters from FFvsXIII and give it to FFXV. Luckily everything else was changed for the most part, so I hope Nomura can finally deliver the story and world he imagined. I'm so excited to see where this goes!

  • @GabePlaysYT
    @GabePlaysYT Год назад

    Remember how Sora lost most of his powers, including the Power of Waking, and he spends most of his time in Kingdom Hearts 3 trying to get it back? what if that is who Yozora is and why he's so strong? when he raises his weapon against Sora, his Station of Awakening appears and they are transported to Quadratum. This is not unlike how Sora awakens Ventus and saves all his friends when he goes back in time. It's possible that Yozora is the embodiment of all the power that Sora had lost.

  • @dasenyt
    @dasenyt 4 года назад +1

    Fabula Nova Crystallis sub series was heavily connected to the number 13 since all the games were supposed to be titled with a 13, for example type 0 = agitoXIII, and ff15 = versus XIII, and then we got actual XIII. At the end of the kh3, young eraqus comes up with a new game involving 13 lights and 7 darknesses. Could this be relevant somehow?

  • @kellin007
    @kellin007 4 года назад +3

    Not sure if it’s important but rex from toy story was trying to get the stradegy guide to beat bahamut in the verum rex game. It happens right before YX forced sora into verum rex.

    • @GPaulTheThrashKing
      @GPaulTheThrashKing 4 года назад

      book = book of prophecies?

    • @kellin007
      @kellin007 4 года назад

      Brojan Horse my bad I meant strategy guide.

    • @GPaulTheThrashKing
      @GPaulTheThrashKing 4 года назад

      KMan 12 nah man, I had a fail of reading comprehension. I read Rex as Yozora for some damnable reason

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +1

      I read that the first time too, but I think I was thinking Verum Rex Lol KMan 12, I agree it's odd that they make a reference to that as well, very interesting to me

  • @tomygun196
    @tomygun196 4 года назад +3

    I hope Sora comes back in the future. I really want to see a happy ending with EVERYONE at destiny island :(

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +4

      We got to see everyone happy for a split second... And then they smashed our hearts to pieces Lol

  • @TheHungerGamesByeRue
    @TheHungerGamesByeRue 4 года назад

    A small note, when noctis falls back and turns into ash in ffxv he looks like sora floating in the game over screen

  • @mikeruiger7174
    @mikeruiger7174 4 года назад +1

    I think there is more going on, everyone forgets that mom was also here in the first secret ending. That has to have some sort of connection

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад

      Right, It's honestly unclear if this is during the secret ending, before it, after it or in a different place altogether. The secret ending is seemed to be hinted at being Riku's dream, while this fight seems to take place in the Final World/ some kind of datascape.

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim25 4 года назад +4

    Note: KH4 will not be the last game. We’re clearly getting another saga and that’s always got multiple games(posted 5 days ago) no ‘tired’ fans are allowed to respond.

  • @itsddashrock
    @itsddashrock 4 года назад +5

    What if he's Riku and Sora combined?

  • @yozoranotnoctis
    @yozoranotnoctis 4 года назад

    Luxord voice actor confirmed that he voiced the driver but he said that he had no idea what that means LOL.

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад

      Where is this confirmed? I’d love to see that!

    • @ark7204
      @ark7204 4 года назад

      Luxord may have a conncection with this driver.. or it's just his human form.

  • @brandon8875
    @brandon8875 4 года назад +1

    watching this video, I think the concept of Final Fantasy vs. 13 (organization thirteen from kh) is plausible the more i think about it. or atleast some sort of crossover like that. and tbh this makes sense, kh has always had final fantasy characters in it. the crossover factor was always there, it was just never exercised to this level.
    another possibility is that theyre maybe they're ditching disney and flipping the kh characters into full blown final fantasy characters so they can tell a more poignant, darker story ALA classic final fantasy stories involving themes such as death, etc. etc.
    i think itd be better if they ditched disney tbh. they impose too many restrictions on the devs when they're making the game i feel.

    • @thedothackerkeyblademaster
      @thedothackerkeyblademaster 4 года назад

      Ditching Disney would be difficult to do, since Disney is the copyright holder for Kingdom Hearts. Besides Nomura has said that he doesn't think Kingdom Hearts would be as enjoyable without the Disney element to it, so I doubt he even wants to ditch Disney. Plus, given the way Kingdom Hearts has incorporated Final Fantasy characters before (alternate versions that exist only within the Kingdom Hearts universe), I doubt they'd turn it into a full Final Fantasy crossover, especially when they already have Dissidia and World of Final Fantasy.
      In regards to Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Nomura did once say he'd be saving any ideas he couldn't implement there for Kingdom Hearts. Granted the conversation at the time was mostly in reference to gameplay elements (for example, Versus XIII was going to have a mechsuit mechanic similar to the Gigas in Kingdom Hearts III), but I wouldn't be surprised if he was thinking of story elements at the time too. Given that Dream Drop Distance was the upcoming Kingdom Hearts game at the time and that it features characters from The World Ends With You (a game Nomura produced that from what I'm told has similar themes to what Versus XIII was going to), I can imagine that he intended to have these games connect at some point, though I'm not certain if he intended it to be to this degree.

  • @wumboweinie1428
    @wumboweinie1428 4 года назад +2

    The word "real" gets thrown around a lot in KH3 its almost hinting yozoras world is the real one and soras is some kind of fake or alternate reality. Also if you look at soras character model in the menus before the yozora fight his appearance is altered to look more "realistic", compare it to soras character models in other worlds in KH3 and you can tell he looks more real then cartoon.

    • @chrisdaughen5257
      @chrisdaughen5257 4 года назад

      That's done in every world. The Caribbean made them have more realistic textures.

  • @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
    @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv 4 года назад +1

    You know besides Sora, both Kairi and Xion turned into Crystal as well. I wonder what causes one to do so in the KHverse and why it does not happen as often?

    • @WaterKH
      @WaterKH  4 года назад +1

      The way Xion and Sora being crystallized was similar, how it kind of travelled along their body before they were enveloped. Kairi’s was much more sudden and at the moment of impact. So I don’t know... But yeah you ask an interesting question

  • @connorgray7688
    @connorgray7688 4 года назад

    I think the possibility of Verum Rex being a real world in KH Universe makes as much since as 100 Acre Wood existing inside of a book

  • @vaulthunterfromterra4053
    @vaulthunterfromterra4053 Год назад

    If locations in Verum Rex and FF15 are the same, and there are heartless in Verum Rex’s world, does that mean the the hidden door in FF15 is that world’s actual Key Hole? And does that also mean the events of KH are canon in FF15, but we’re told as a video game.
    Listen to your companion’s voice lines when you find the door, it was supposed to just be a reference to KH, but knowing how Nomua likes to do things, that may have been foreshadowing for things to come.

  • @KwekuOnTech
    @KwekuOnTech 4 года назад +1

    A future Kingdom Hearts title and a future FF will be linked albeit loosely

  • @charleskilapat6658
    @charleskilapat6658 4 года назад

    Imagine making Sora visit the first 9 FF game worlds. JS. Filling in plot holes in each game with PoW.

  • @murcaronisalad5322
    @murcaronisalad5322 4 года назад

    He said that it isn't how he is supposed to look. My theory is that you will now be able to play a new world where you're trapped in a large hotel and have to fight a black man trying to kick you and your friends out, while possessed by heartless.

  • @DarkMaestro88
    @DarkMaestro88 4 года назад

    I think the next game we get will be another dream drop title, in which we’d most likely play as Riku and Kairi. Would be really interesting if we were traversing Riku’s dreams of Yozora/Shibuya to search for traces of Sora.

  • @terrellhopkins4106
    @terrellhopkins4106 4 года назад +1

    What if yozora is soras son?
    When kingdom hearts 2 first released a friend of mine said he new someone directly tide to the development of the KHseries and he told me that in the future sora will meet a future version of his son and he would kill him. I thought it was crazy until i saw yozora crystallize sora. Also, we dont know abour sora's parents nor do we kbow of anyones parents for that matter. What if Noctis is soras brother or cousin or even related to riku? What if riku and sora are related as well? I was thinking yozora is the medium sora being the low ground and noctis being the high ground. Or it even being " NOCTIS SORA YOZORA" as how they play a part in the series and this is the beginning of all of Nomiras works being tide together.

  • @lucaskincanyon7393
    @lucaskincanyon7393 2 года назад

    God I hope so. If this video is true I’m liking where this series is going.

  • @--Paws--
    @--Paws-- 2 года назад

    Isn't it all a coincidence that Rex knew the truth? Like it really was a play on words, truth = verum/rex = king.

  • @chrisdaughen5257
    @chrisdaughen5257 4 года назад +2

    I'm so angry about FF-Type 0 and the Rursus. Especially since there's one Rursus that looks like Terra armor you never get to fight. If these things show up in KH I will be so angry!

  • @rialvita7141
    @rialvita7141 4 года назад

    Maybe the "ultimate price" for abusing the Power of Waking is getting your existence completly displaced in spacetime, with only your Heart to rely on.

  • @XirchsYamatoClyne
    @XirchsYamatoClyne 4 года назад

    Ten years asleep at that island, noctis came to KH

  • @AJENKINS1920
    @AJENKINS1920 10 месяцев назад

    This one is bit of a long shot but number 4 Japanese represents death while 13 represents death as well in western