The man is an embarrassing fake who knows nothing about anything living off that Baldrik character reading from a script. Saw him once on a excavation documentary with real archeologysts and you could see them cringing at the antics of this prat.
The poor didn't turn to the mills just because life working the land was harder . the government realising they needed workers in the mills and other industries passed a law called "The Enclosures Act" which allowed landowners to enclose the common lands and enabled thousands of tenant farmers to have their land stolen from them. It is estimated that just under 7 million acres of land was enclosed in the 17th century.Meaning that 500years of a medieval way of living was swept away. A lot of the land was given over to sheep farming or turned into vast parkland designed by the traitor Capability Brown, enabling the rich industrialist's to live on vast estates without having to look upon those pesky poor people.. Love Tony Robinson though....
Wow - you mean they foresaw the invention of the steam engine by hundreds of years when they began the Inclosure Acts? And the Speaker of the House of Commons sits on a wool-sack to perpetuate the myth that the changes were for sheep? The historical records of Britain's wool trade with Europe must be fabrications too then!
Though this enclosure act meant that the efficiency of farming improved significance we saw a 190% increase in agricultural productivity, yes there where other factors but non as impactful as the enclosure act. Yes the poor did lose out but when didn’t they in the Industrial Revolution. Same time without such blatant neglect towards working Britain never formed unions and nerve would have there been a push for the right for ALL men to vote. This enclosure act was one of the political lead catalysts that spurred the sparks of the revolution.
My favourite presenter Tony Robinson doing a doco on a subject that I've wanted to know more about for ages - the impoverished English working poor and their long struggle for basic rights that happened not that long ago. Love this.
The 200M of us working poor in the US today get 7.25 for an 80+ hour week and can't afford a tent under the highway. They had it way better at the Greg's mill.
I hope this will be a very long series. It's really interesting and there are not nearly enough, longer length quality documentaries on the industrial revolution. It is too important to be so lightly covered by documentary makers.
If you like this you should Tony Robinson's other historical documentaries, there's long one on history's worst jobs and it has an episode on the industrial revolution. Quite interesting
Their sacrifice was fundamental to the way of life we live today. Remember: life was already harsh for people before the Industrial Revolution, if life was better in the country, they wouldn't move in to cities. It's thanks for Industrial Revolution that things started to became easier and now we can buy any type of clothing we want or work from home
It's worth remembering that the Industrial Revolution also took place in the countryside, massively reducing the number of jobs available there. The only option for most of those former farm workers was to move into the cities to find work.
Indeed, it was a very painful process in the name of progress - of which people have since reaped the benefits….. but we all know that slavery is not a thing of the past for many even today.
@@jonshapcott5042 oh it took place in the world, moreover. But with Britain's unique landmass, it exacerbated the problem; one man laying seed, with another plucking holes, was no longer the profitable way... long live machinery, I suppose. The worst part about slavery is that about 80% of the population at the time, of the WORLD really, turned a blind eye to the entire abomination!
Everyone should read the book of British childlabourer Robert Blincoe in a spinning mill around 1800.....it's the true story of what was it like back then, it's heartbreaking
He was "officially" knighted by Lizzie Windsor" but got his REAL knighthood from the late Michael Hastings of Jerilderie, NSW Australia, who was the RIGHTFUL heir to the throne of England, but rejected it in favour of the egalitarian lifestyle of Australia.
A very appropriately, timed documentary that underlines that freedoms are hardfought for, and how general apathy can lead to those very same freedoms being snatched away, without so much, is a whimper by future generations, complacent, and hoping to be saved by politicians
That company store BS lasted well into the 20th century, in northern Nova Scotia. "Owing your soul to the company store" and having your pay check reduced to pennies as a result, was a way of life in certain parts of Cape Breton.
It was also used in the coal mines in the U.S. which is where that line and the song it came from was created. These people couldn't save a dime, and every dime they spent went right back to their boss.
The eternal dream of the powerful is full ownership of the people who create their wealth. Through history they have managed to pull it off periodically, but the workers always find a way out of this arrangement. Sadly, it always takes violence.
Unregulated market or the attitude that market forces will solve all problems is shown for what it is here, greed at the expense of others. History is a record of human behavior. Let us learn from it, and keep some behaviors from repeating.
Don't you think its greedy when workers demand wages that employers can't afford to pay, thus forcing companies to downsize, layoff employees, outsource, or go bankrupt entirely? There's a supply and demand for everything, including labor. If you have a lot of people competing for work, they'll be willing to work for less. It was the black death that created the middle class because a large chunk of the labor pool died and that labor shortage is what gave the survivors bargaining power. To get around the minimum wage laws, our elites just import immigrants because they're cheaper to hire than citizens. This has other effects too because then they use social services and drive up the cost of living and create all kinds of other social problems. Your demands create more problems than they solve is what I'm trying to say. Isn't that really what greed is all about?
"You marinade it in a puddle for a while" "For how long ?" "Until it's drowned" Baldric was practically a real friend, based on how often I watched BA as a kid 👍🍻
Whenever the industrial revolution is discussed, it’s almost impossible for someone not to complain about child labor. The implication is that industrialization created a situation where children were needed and insatiably consumed. What’s ignored is before industrialization, families were subsistence farmers where the children toiled in the fields, rain or shine, sun or snow. Factory work increased the amount an individual could earn. And eventually, machine complexity made child employment more a detriment than a necessity, and adults could earn more than enough at work themselves.
Good call! The previous episode in the series, titled "Social Change", actually does mention this phenomenon. It might be on the "recommended videos" list if you scroll down a bit? Then again, it might not -- who knows why RUclips recommends what it does to people!
Except people who worked in the fields did so at their own leisure. They stopped to chat, took breaks when they wanted, and had sunshine, fresh air and adequate rest. They also worked as a family together and looked after each other. No, they did not work the fields in the 'snow' lol. You've obviously never worked on a farm. You seem to have a romantic idea of the factory mills, where people had zero freedom, toiled for 12 hours a day under the strict brutal command of a factory boss, were not allowed to leave, were severely punished for minor or non-existent infractions, and developed chronic industrial diseases. In other words, slavery.
Why did these people subject themselves to this treatment in the first place is the question people fail to ask. Before this time we had the feudal system. And the peasants lived a life of self sufficiency upon the commons. They tithed of course but the basis of life was barter and trade. Money was for lords and nobels. When they realized they needed people in these new factories they threw all the peasants off the common lands and forced them into the cities like cattle.
@@starrattmaster That is a myth. Our scientific understanding of the world would have actually advanced even faster over time without this system. We are the most social creature on earth. The more we cooperate, the more we excel, and the greater out personal satisfaction as well. Many hands make light work, and so do many minds. And copy-write and IP have done nothing but slow our progression down since they were invented. Businesses do not conduct science. They conduct product development from KNOWN science and technologies. Everything man has ever created in history owes its existence to things that came before it. And there are many people in our world today and throughout history who had idea's for a better mouse trap who were stymied by a lack of resources or being unable to access existing technologies by copy-write protections.
Having to spend wages in the company shop - was banned by the Truck Acts. (In some cases employees were forced to take their pay not in coin of the realm, but in tokens issued by the employer and only redeemable in the company shop). The law of employer and employee, was a branch of contract law termed as between 'master' and 'servant'. To our eye this is redolent of human trafficking and of actual slavery, or at any rate servitude
Why did the workers move into such 'squalid' conditions and work in these mills? Because they were the best option out of all alternatives. If they weren't working 12 hours a day in the mill, they would be working in the fields for even less. Don't forget that the average lifespan in 1800 was 35-40 years, and nearly half of children didn't reach 5 years old.
Ask yourself why there were no other options? Because of the enclosure of the commons. people were being driven off the lands and into the cities. These were government policy decisions, not some fate of nature.
A thought provoking documentary about nineteenth century technology and developing class interests and conflicts. The christianity of the Gregg family did produce a viable working system, and some stayed loyal to the family. Further technological developments allowed improvements and the breaking down of the original class distinctions. Owned by the National Trust, Styal Mill is well worth a visit, as is nearby Mello Mill, recently excavated and landscaped with display boards.
30:39 this is amazing-- i'm looking at a copy of my birth certificate issued in, lets just say, the 60's ;-) its identical to hers-well it has my name and info, not Esther's--but 120 yrs between her DOB and mine and they kept the exact same format. another awesome ep!
Sadly companies today are still ripping off workers and doing it both legally and illegally, how many in recent years been caught out underpaying their staff?
Great video. Interesting reference to "rivers running dry, mercy of the elements". Yet today some want to base the power grid on generators which are contingent on the time of day and weather.
Very interesting and informative, but seems a bit strange to highlight the Gregs, who by the standards of the day were trying to provide some amenities for their workers. The company shop system could be and often was an abuse in its own right but it didn't seem to be in this instance. I would have thought the owners in big towns and cities were much worse and it would have been better to target them.
Even today, too many workers whine about their conditions. If you don't like your work, compare it to being out of work and see which you think is better.
The problem today is so many people are on benefits in the UK because they are better off that way rather than looking for work.These poor souls either worked or starved to death without a roof over their heads Glenn.
From my ancestor's diary an entry 14 Dec 1832 (9 months after the Reform Act) ..Riot at Sheffd 5 Persons Shot..[riot caused by the election on 13 & 14 Dec - 6 people killed]
Yes, exploitation of workers is horrible. Using children to work in factories is absolutely barbaric. Of course, throughout human history most children worked. Throughout human history most children did not go school and most people have been illiterate. Nobility send their children to school throughout the Middle Ages. But the children of commoners did not go to school. They worked. It was the Industrial Revolution that created enough social wealth to build schools for educating children whose parents could not pay. This is the irony of all these misdirected complaints. These misguided people believe that Industrialization and free-market capitalism made the lives of the common people worse. What did human society offer before Industrialization and free-market capitalism? Isolated peasant farmers who worked their respective plot of land owned by their feudal lords. Was that better? Can a feudal, agricultural society create enough resources to send the children of peasant farmers to school? The poorest countries today are societies that are stuck in the agrarian stage. All of the poorest countries in the world are not industrialized. It seems to me that many of these malcontents are complaining about a system that actually raised the standard of living of the common people. Yes, the factory owners lived better. That is because they created a new thing, a new machine, and lowered the price of clothing. Have you seen what peasant farmers in China were wearing in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Their clothes had so many holes the fabric can barely hold together. Clothing made manually was too expensive for the peasant Chinese farmer and his family to buy. They wore clothes that were falling apart. The Industrial Revolution was established in Britain and Western Europe by the late 1800s. European workers lived in poorer conditions than the factory owner. But the European worker lived better than they lived on the farm before the Industrial Revolution. On the farm they were isolated and could not trade with anyone except their neighbors. It was the mechanized transportation system that got their crops to market so they could make some money. It was the mechanized spinning and weaving machines that made clothing cheaper so commoners can afford decent clothes. Yes, the factory owners had better clothes. But everyone had better clothes after the Industrial Revolution and free-market capitalism. This is what the socialists, communists, and Brexiteers do not see. They are angry because some of their neighbors make more money than they do. The Industrial Revolution and free-market capitalism created new ways to make things. The people who invented these new ways to make things made a lot of money. They used their own ingenuity to make everyone's life better. But this is not because of thievery or unfair practices. What is unfair is communist societies. In a communist society you have a command economy. A small group of political elites confiscate the machines made by the original owners-inventors without compensating them. The communist leaders say they are taking the property of factory owners in order to benefit the people. This is thievery. The communist elites decide what to make and how much to make. The people can only buy what the political elite offer. There is no choice. This is not fair. This is the hypocrisy of these malcontents. The socialists, communists, and Brexiteers are the malcontents.
First machine ever to use steam was done by a Spanish Army officer soldier and inventor named Jeronimo De Ayans. De Ayans is best remembered for the invention of a steam-powered water pump for draining mines, for which he was granted a patent by the Spanish monarchy in 1606. He also improved scientific equipment, developed windmills and new types of furnaces for metallurgy and industrial, military and household use. He invented a bell-like diving suit and even designed a submarine. He died from a serious illness in Madrid, in 1613. That was the first ever Steam Machine. Pumps to drain deep coal mines. From 1698, The BRITISH put steam to work on other applications and improved the Spanish Steam Machine, BUT THEY DIDNT INVENT THE STEAM MACHINE INITIALLY. 1606 DE AYANS DID IT FIRST in Spain. NOT 1698 Thomas Savery. That is another lie to take the credit away from The Spanish as practiced by the british of that era. That is Called THE SPANISH BLACK LEGENDS. That is the name of Legends and lies created by the british Monarqui when they were enemies of The Spanish Empire. They also lied about many other things about The Spanish Empire. Just jealous of the Spanish conquering and colonizing most the new world. Cant beat your rival? Just lie about them.
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but here: 1st century AD - Hero of Alexandria describes the Aeolipile, as an example of the power of heated air or water. The device consists of a rotating ball spun by steam jets; it produced little power and had no practical application, but is nevertheless the first known device moved by steam pressure. May not have been influential, memorable, or useful.. but it was there!
@@crab-manSorghame That toy did nothing. So it was not a real working machine. Just like the Chinese Flying Feather that Da Vinci took as his creation. Liar. Italians did the same with Pasta food, (which are Chinese Noodles), Not Italian as they boast about. Liars..
@@CFITOMAHAWK2 also, even MORE sadly, you try to distance yourself from the object Jeronimo himself based it off of... he was marveled by it, tho you know surface, ancient knowledge at best.
you also dont realize how adaptation works, or advancement, apparently. when did i mention rice noodles, again? or the EDO period, when noodles were popularized.
I cannot judge the content of this documentary as I do not have the sources for it. However, the plates they show for the shirt are from a workwoman's guide, dating 1838, and where the workman and the gentleman's shirt are cut the same, with big blocks of fabric. The only difference is the quality of the linen, and the insert in the front. So no "no curves allowed for the workmen in contrast to gentlemen's shirts"...
This is a fascinating and wonderfully made documentary. However, there is a note of GLARING hypocrisy to point out. 23:53 Let's open a history book, Englishman, perhaps to any year between 1690 and 1910 in particular and see if we can't figure out how a city fell to this.
Strikes are great, until you try to stop other people from going to work. Some people are content with their lot, let them be, allow them to remain content.
7:05 A basic human right we take for granted, the right to vote... Except the First Past The Post system still makes their vote irrelevant. That's why we've had Tory governments who had only 36% of the popular vote.
Plus voter suppression and gerrymandering here in the USA keep Republicans in office when they have no idea how to govern effectively, no do they want to. That plus a ridiculous Senate where tiny population states get the same number of senators as big states, so they have far greater senatorial representation per person, so not all votes are equal even when they can be cast.
@@ziploc2000 Yeah, because when the Democrats are in power redistricting never happens, except it does because districts can only hold a certain amount of people, if non citizens were not counted in the census then democrats would lose seats so of course you would not call for that, so it is oK when the votes in the house of reps are affected as long as it is in the lefts favor. Also the reason there are two senators per state instead of them distributed differently was originally to give each state the same voice in government, i big factor why the US ame into being instead of just states and no federal government, senators were even appointed by the state government instead of voted for at at all. As usual leftoids want their party to gain more power and complains they don't have all the power, using rediculous childish arguments that are not even based in fact.
On seeing a documentary like this, it is easy to see why Australians are the way we are. We see ourselves as an egalitarian, classless society, largely, though there are some who pretend to be aristocratic, people like former foreign minister and ambassador to the USA, Alexander Downer, and former prime minister(recently deposed), Malcolm Turnbull, as two notable examples of would-be aristocrats. Australia rejected aristocracy in its early days when the idea was first put forward by John MacArthur, famous for merino sheep breeding, infamous for his putrid views on society in Australia. When Australia became federated on this day(1st January, 1901, first day of the 20th Century) 118 years ago, it was determined that both houses of Australia's parliament would be decided by public vote, the upper house termed "Senate", not a House of Lords, and the lower house to be termed "House of Representatives", not "House of Commons". Already Australia's method of governance was far superior to that of Britain in that we, the people, decided who would occupy seats in BOTH houses of parliament. We have long ago rejected the putrid stench of aristocracy in Australia.... Oh sure, let Malcolm Turnbull and Alexander Downer pretend all they want.... it does NOT make them aristocrats except in their own minds.
Neil Forbes . Yes, and now you have no heavy industry because your socialist utopia sold out your workers to China. You just replaced one aristocracy with another. Instead, you have oligarchies overseen by freemasonry. Really not much different at all. NOBODY rises above non com no matter what they do for a living unless they become a freemason. Want to become a fire crew captain ? Gotta be a Freemason. Want to get above sergeant in the police force ? Better join the lodge. Want to survive in your own small business ? You wont last five minutes unless your part of the brotherhood. Whatever superiority you had over the british system you lost it long ago to maritime/corporate capture. Australians are taxed to the hilt, indebted more than anyone and they call it the lucky country ! Well it was for a while but the usual players corrupted your govt a long time ago.
It wasn't the socialists of Labor who sold us out, it was the treasonous LIBERALS, who are akin to those filthy, treacherous REPUBLICANS in the Putrid States of America(spelt with a lower-case first letter to bring that country into line with its true level of insignificance in the world with Donald Dump as president).
Neil Forbes.Funny thing about Socialists. They will bitch and whine about the evils of capitalism till the cows come home but if you agree with them and then point out the source of this evil, privately owned central banks, they will go in to to denial quicker than you can say puddle town Martyrs. You guys are complicit in the evils you profess to hate. Lying scumbags the lot of you. I have not met a card carrying socialist yet who was not an arse crawling social climbing union pension fund stealing back stabbing shill.
I remember an elementary school field trip to Slater's Mill, one of the first factories of this kind in the U.S. Very similar, and our teachers and guides made no bones about the fact that children our age were literally torn to pieces in places like this. Absolutely terrified me.
Up here in the land of the Satanic mills we knew how to become the wreckers of those mills and it's machinery. But the power is back with the employers to all in the world as the lazy and stupid pass back power to those who own the mills. As descendants of the Brigantes the people haven't forgotten how to be powerful in our own way!! Personally I think that if a business owner abusers the workers they should be stripped and whipped in public - I think that should do the job. If the local beak - judge - refuse to carry out the charge they receive 60 lashes instead of the twenty the business person was to get... the business person will still be whipped and stripped of their wealth. No more abuse of workers anywhere worldwide.
The Industrial Revolution provided an economic role for a surplus rural population that might well otherwise have starved. The vote was granted to people who paid taxes.
actually farmers were forcibly ejected from their farms, check Scottish history. They came to America. WE DON'T CONSIDER HUMAN BEINGS 'SURPLUS POPULATION' HERE.
Oh, what about the Africans imported to America as slaves in the 18th and 19th centuries? They were treated as "surplus population" after Abraham Lincoln abolished slavery in 1865 or so.
We grew "week"? A "week" is a period of 7 days. Don't you mean we grew "weak"? And in any case you are quite wrong. When we stopped hunting and gathering, which was part of a nomadic lifestyle, we learned agriculture and gained the ability to feed ourselves from what we grew. We also learned to farm livestock(cattle, pigs and such) which we raised for meat. Farming was strenuous work, so that negates the claim that we grew weak.
@@neilforbes416 wasnt just us domesticating them... how could we have done so, had we nothing to offer them? farming leads to civilization. Hunting? The cold, dark, vast, all-encompassing landscape that has claimed the lives of the majority of our people.. the woods.
and the current (2023) Tory Party is still battling to restrict Worker Rights: Underpaying Nurses and other service workers is still the top priority of the Conservative Government of the U.K.
They start the entire show off by avoiding a key issue. They never said WHY people would work in the mills. If the places were so horrible, and they did seem to be, why did they choose to work there? Have you heard about gangs of armed men combing the beautiful pastoral countryside looking for people to capture and take as slaves in the mills? I haven't. The workers had a choice, and they made it of their own free will. However bad the mills were, it was better than what they were doing before. The mills paid more money, and the hours were not any worse than everyone else was working.
The cities and the factories and the mills were where the wages were. Society was moving away from agrarian means of production and moving towards industrial production. Initially, the draw of the pay of these jobs would have outweighed the potential challenges, hardships, and dangers. This documentary seems to focus on the time period after industrialism has been flourishing for a long time. The cities are overcrowded, factory owners are demanding more work and longer hours from their workers, they are developing more tactics to punish workers and strip them of wages, the physical ailments of the industry jobs were starting to take their toll. It became a system that was no longer sustainable. Also, calling it freedom of choice is a little bit of a misconception anyway. When you have orphans, children, and young teenagers entering the work force, they are at the mercy of the will of their guardians, parents, bosses, etc. The episode before even talked about how a boy's mother paid for him to come home to her & the factory owner still got the boy back because he was still under his contract. These children had no idea what they were signing up for, and even if they did, they had no choice in the matter.
@@bluesira They moved to work in factories because the conditions in them were better than being back on the farm. You are just putting a spin on things that doesn't fit the evidence. Children worked on the farm, they worked in small craft shops, they worked everywhere back then. Contracts were also typical in craft shops in the day. You want to think that factories were horrible, and compared to today, they were, but compared to all the other options, it was better than many options open to common people.
@@deezynar That doesn't make anything I said not true. Children worked in the fields, in the shops, in the factories. They did NOT have a choice in the matter. Saying it's better than the farms is irrelevant bc they didn't have a choice between the factories and the farms. Adults controlled their life. Also, saying it was better is incredibly relative. The point I made is that even IF the factory jobs started off being better, or a more attractive alternative to farm life, it still BECAME something completely unsustainable and inhumane. Once the workers start to show symptoms of their ailments, once injuries start to rack up, once industry pollution clouds the skies, once industrial runoff & overcrowding make life miserable and disease-filled. It's the type of life you may have been able to put up with for a little while, but not for years and years, esp if your bosses were adding bogus years to your contract, as in the video.
@@bluesira Still playing the liberal game that the factory owners were all horrible. There is nothing more that can be said, you want to believe the garbage you've been fed and ignore the easily seen reality. People left miserable lives on farms to work in factories because it was better for them. As bad as the factories were, it was better for them. Over time, people complained about the conditions and the conditions improved.
@@deezynar Nothing more can be said, I agree with you on that. Once you bring in terms like 'liberal' or 'conservative', it's obvious we're not having a discussion about history. I will not continue to engage in this politically-motivated conversation.
With vastly increasing world population, essential dietary protein is becoming increasingly scarce. People are exploring almost any protein source, rats, farmed fish and algae, bugs, almost anything is becoming acceptable.
Nah the scarcity is largely artificial and created by capitalism as a necessaty for it to work. 1% is holding nearly all resources and tells the rest to fight over scraps
Yea thanks for all the state sanctioned killings that have happened whenever communists get in power. The millions the Chinese killed, the millions the Russians killed and the 25% of the Cambodian population that were killed by the communists. Yea thanks Marx and Engels you did a fantastic job of cutting the life of millions of people short.
cotton grows pretty quickly, its very hardy, and it doesn't need too fertile a soil. much of it imported, most of it grown and harvested by hand. picture dozens of workers, weather you look at them as sharecroppers, slaves, or farmhands, thats your rhetoric... picture them holding huge sacks, big as a child but wide as a car door... then picture each man hauling atleast 2 on his back, stuffing another with more. they did it by the bag, really.
It was imported from America. Greg’s uncle owned a cotton plantation whereas Greg owned a sugar plantation. They were a large and wealthy family, wealth all built on the back of slaves and child labour
Without question Tony Robinson is an exceptional presenter of documentaries.
@@deedee-tc4fhShame!
The man is an embarrassing fake who knows nothing about anything living off that Baldrik character reading from a script. Saw him once on a excavation documentary with real archeologysts and you could see them cringing at the antics of this prat.
The poor didn't turn to the mills just because life working the land was harder . the government realising they needed workers in the mills and other industries passed a law called "The Enclosures Act" which allowed landowners to enclose the common lands and enabled thousands of tenant farmers to have their land stolen from them. It is estimated that just under 7 million acres of land was enclosed in the 17th century.Meaning that 500years of a medieval way of living was swept away. A lot of the land was given over to sheep farming or turned into vast parkland designed by the traitor Capability Brown, enabling the rich industrialist's to live on vast estates without having to look upon those pesky poor people.. Love Tony Robinson though....
“Traitor” 😂😂😂 you are funny, if ill-informed.
Wow - you mean they foresaw the invention of the steam engine by hundreds of years when they began the Inclosure Acts? And the Speaker of the House of Commons sits on a wool-sack to perpetuate the myth that the changes were for sheep? The historical records of Britain's wool trade with Europe must be fabrications too then!
Eugenicists 😶🌫️
Though this enclosure act meant that the efficiency of farming improved significance we saw a 190% increase in agricultural productivity, yes there where other factors but non as impactful as the enclosure act. Yes the poor did lose out but when didn’t they in the Industrial Revolution. Same time without such blatant neglect towards working Britain never formed unions and nerve would have there been a push for the right for ALL men to vote. This enclosure act was one of the political lead catalysts that spurred the sparks of the revolution.
My favourite presenter Tony Robinson doing a doco on a subject that I've wanted to know more about for ages - the impoverished English working poor and their long struggle for basic rights that happened not that long ago. Love this.
This man makes every topic he talks about, very interesting. Wonderful!
it's a show made by many people he hardly does everything himself
@@seekter-kafa Tony is the key to making it interesting. Without him this would be boring
@@PibrochPonder It is boring, he is boring. He is paid to do a job.
The 200M of us working poor in the US today get 7.25 for an 80+ hour week and can't afford a tent under the highway. They had it way better at the Greg's mill.
I hope this will be a very long series. It's really interesting and there are not nearly enough, longer length quality documentaries on the industrial revolution. It is too important to be so lightly covered by documentary makers.
If you like this then you should see the PBS tv series of over 7 episodes on the Vietnam War
@@calidude1114 kamikaze
@Celto Loco they did 2 programs
If you like this you should Tony Robinson's other historical documentaries, there's long one on history's worst jobs and it has an episode on the industrial revolution. Quite interesting
Their sacrifice was fundamental to the way of life we live today. Remember: life was already harsh for people before the Industrial Revolution, if life was better in the country, they wouldn't move in to cities. It's thanks for Industrial Revolution that things started to became easier and now we can buy any type of clothing we want or work from home
China came into play, there was no more need for the civilised world to work thier people.
It's worth remembering that the Industrial Revolution also took place in the countryside, massively reducing the number of jobs available there. The only option for most of those former farm workers was to move into the cities to find work.
Indeed, it was a very painful process in the name of progress - of which people have since reaped the benefits….. but we all know that slavery is not a thing of the past for many even today.
@@jonshapcott5042 oh it took place in the world, moreover. But with Britain's unique landmass, it exacerbated the problem; one man laying seed, with another plucking holes, was no longer the profitable way... long live machinery, I suppose. The worst part about slavery is that about 80% of the population at the time, of the WORLD really, turned a blind eye to the entire abomination!
Everyone should read the book of British childlabourer Robert Blincoe in a spinning mill around 1800.....it's the true story of what was it like back then, it's heartbreaking
I'm definitely looking forward to more episodes of The Mill
Under rated for sure, I wish they finished the story before it was cancelled.
Ah, I See Tony is Sir now... Congratulations!
He was "officially" knighted by Lizzie Windsor" but got his REAL knighthood from the late Michael Hastings of Jerilderie, NSW Australia, who was the RIGHTFUL heir to the throne of England, but rejected it in favour of the egalitarian lifestyle of Australia.
A very appropriately, timed documentary that underlines that freedoms are hardfought for, and how general apathy can lead to those very same freedoms being snatched away, without so much, is a whimper by future generations, complacent, and hoping to be saved by politicians
Empathy?
That company store BS lasted well into the 20th century, in northern Nova Scotia. "Owing your soul to the company store" and having your pay check reduced to pennies as a result, was a way of life in certain parts of Cape Breton.
It was also used in the coal mines in the U.S. which is where that line and the song it came from was created. These people couldn't save a dime, and every dime they spent went right back to their boss.
@Celto Loco car vs literal food, water, and living supplies. you tell me what'd matter more
It’s the same way for Amazon workers now.
And longer in the coal fields of Appalachia
Totally engrossing presentation, thank you!
Did some work in that mill, they started 4 of the looms and you could hardly hear yourself speak.
Tony you are a legend...really. I could not do what you do. Luck to you.
Am i the only one who feels employer-employee relationship today hasnt changed much?
nothing has changed, it just seems it has to the Peasants
You’ll feel that way because you don’t know any better.
@@redram5150 You sound like an employer lol
The eternal dream of the powerful is full ownership of the people who create their wealth. Through history they have managed to pull it off periodically, but the workers always find a way out of this arrangement. Sadly, it always takes violence.
Agree
peterloo massacre was a common reaction to any protests all over the British Empire.
Unregulated market or the attitude that market forces will solve all problems is shown for what it is here, greed at the expense of others. History is a record of human behavior. Let us learn from it, and keep some behaviors from repeating.
Don't you think its greedy when workers demand wages that employers can't afford to pay, thus forcing companies to downsize, layoff employees, outsource, or go bankrupt entirely? There's a supply and demand for everything, including labor. If you have a lot of people competing for work, they'll be willing to work for less. It was the black death that created the middle class because a large chunk of the labor pool died and that labor shortage is what gave the survivors bargaining power. To get around the minimum wage laws, our elites just import immigrants because they're cheaper to hire than citizens. This has other effects too because then they use social services and drive up the cost of living and create all kinds of other social problems. Your demands create more problems than they solve is what I'm trying to say. Isn't that really what greed is all about?
You're both right.
I'm still waiting for Baldric to do a show on the best rat recipes throughout history.
I'm dining on one right now , and washing it down with one of His famous 'war trench' coffees ;)
turnips
This comment needs a laugh react.
@@joanhuffman2166 yes
"You marinade it in a puddle for a while"
"For how long ?"
"Until it's drowned"
Baldric was practically a real friend, based on how often I watched BA as a kid 👍🍻
Really enjoyed these, thank you ✌🏻
Whenever the industrial revolution is discussed, it’s almost impossible for someone not to complain about child labor. The implication is that industrialization created a situation where children were needed and insatiably consumed. What’s ignored is before industrialization, families were subsistence farmers where the children toiled in the fields, rain or shine, sun or snow. Factory work increased the amount an individual could earn. And eventually, machine complexity made child employment more a detriment than a necessity, and adults could earn more than enough at work themselves.
Good call! The previous episode in the series, titled "Social Change", actually does mention this phenomenon. It might be on the "recommended videos" list if you scroll down a bit? Then again, it might not -- who knows why RUclips recommends what it does to people!
Except people who worked in the fields did so at their own leisure. They stopped to chat, took breaks when they wanted, and had sunshine, fresh air and adequate rest. They also worked as a family together and looked after each other. No, they did not work the fields in the 'snow' lol. You've obviously never worked on a farm.
You seem to have a romantic idea of the factory mills, where people had zero freedom, toiled for 12 hours a day under the strict brutal command of a factory boss, were not allowed to leave, were severely punished for minor or non-existent infractions, and developed chronic industrial diseases. In other words, slavery.
Why did these people subject themselves to this treatment in the first place is the question people fail to ask. Before this time we had the feudal system. And the peasants lived a life of self sufficiency upon the commons. They tithed of course but the basis of life was barter and trade. Money was for lords and nobels. When they realized they needed people in these new factories they threw all the peasants off the common lands and forced them into the cities like cattle.
@@starrattmaster That is a myth. Our scientific understanding of the world would have actually advanced even faster over time without this system. We are the most social creature on earth. The more we cooperate, the more we excel, and the greater out personal satisfaction as well. Many hands make light work, and so do many minds. And copy-write and IP have done nothing but slow our progression down since they were invented. Businesses do not conduct science. They conduct product development from KNOWN science and technologies. Everything man has ever created in history owes its existence to things that came before it. And there are many people in our world today and throughout history who had idea's for a better mouse trap who were stymied by a lack of resources or being unable to access existing technologies by copy-write protections.
@@squatch545They also were able to own the final product of the labour.
Having to spend wages in the company shop - was banned by the Truck Acts. (In some cases employees were forced to take their pay not in coin of the realm, but in tokens issued by the employer and only redeemable in the company shop). The law of employer and employee, was a branch of contract law termed as between 'master' and 'servant'. To our eye this is redolent of human trafficking and of actual slavery, or at any rate servitude
…. and now in 2023 the government wants to turn back the clock
Why did the workers move into such 'squalid' conditions and work in these mills? Because they were the best option out of all alternatives. If they weren't working 12 hours a day in the mill, they would be working in the fields for even less. Don't forget that the average lifespan in 1800 was 35-40 years, and nearly half of children didn't reach 5 years old.
Ask yourself why there were no other options? Because of the enclosure of the commons. people were being driven off the lands and into the cities. These were government policy decisions, not some fate of nature.
It makes me upset seeing him age.
Here's young
He's 33
He's looking pretty old in this one.
Ageing is life's constant.
@@j.felixnwachukwu6971and then there is death, life's only other constant.
Love anything like this
A thought provoking documentary about nineteenth century technology and developing class interests and conflicts. The christianity of the Gregg family did produce a viable working system, and some stayed loyal to the family. Further technological developments allowed improvements and the breaking down of the original class distinctions. Owned by the National Trust, Styal Mill is well worth a visit, as is nearby Mello Mill, recently excavated and landscaped with display boards.
Who's watching this for school?
30:39 this is amazing-- i'm looking at a copy of my birth certificate issued in, lets just say, the 60's ;-) its identical to hers-well it has my name and info, not Esther's--but 120 yrs between her DOB and mine and they kept the exact same format. another awesome ep!
no one seems to complain how china took over this trade and its abusive ways.
Cool, thanks James Watt.
Who here for homework?
You got answers??
sadly
me
Yep lol
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this video blows thanks a lot mr neuburger
facts
Not in his class or probably even the same school, but I agree
Sadly companies today are still ripping off workers and doing it both legally and illegally, how many in recent years been caught out underpaying their staff?
China...
@Celto Loco true , however that doesn’t solve the problem
Very enlightening, informative. I love this documentary. Thank you.
Strength in numbers! That’s what we need right now 21 !
Great video. Interesting reference to "rivers running dry, mercy of the elements". Yet today some want to base the power grid on generators which are contingent on the time of day and weather.
nice
these buildings need to be heritage listed never to be redeveloped or knocked down
Very interesting and informative, but seems a bit strange to highlight the Gregs, who by the standards of the day were trying to provide some amenities for their workers. The company shop system could be and often was an abuse in its own right but it didn't seem to be in this instance. I would have thought the owners in big towns and cities were much worse and it would have been better to target them.
It's because of the attachment of the significance... the child labor laws being appealed; it makes a neat moral dilemma.
I think it's that unlike most there's almost all records intact giving a full picture.
Wow Tony Robinson is a Sir
Does that make him aristocrat???
Great video... but not so much centered on the steam engine as the video's title, but on worker's rights.
Don't knock sharing beds, it all depends on who you are sharing it with.
Interesting
Even today, too many workers whine about their conditions. If you don't like your work, compare it to being out of work and see which you think is better.
The problem today is so many people are on benefits in the UK because they are better off that way rather than looking for work.These poor souls either worked or starved to death without a roof over their heads Glenn.
And what do you do to make a living huh????
I’ve questioned the increase in population during the Industrial Revolution. How can people have children and work 12 hour days?
From my ancestor's diary an entry 14 Dec 1832 (9 months after the Reform Act) ..Riot at Sheffd 5 Persons Shot..[riot caused by the election on 13 & 14 Dec - 6 people killed]
Yes, exploitation of workers is horrible. Using children to work in factories is absolutely barbaric. Of course, throughout human history most children worked. Throughout human history most children did not go school and most people have been illiterate. Nobility send their children to school throughout the Middle Ages. But the children of commoners did not go to school. They worked. It was the Industrial Revolution that created enough social wealth to build schools for educating children whose parents could not pay. This is the irony of all these misdirected complaints. These misguided people believe that Industrialization and free-market capitalism made the lives of the common people worse. What did human society offer before Industrialization and free-market capitalism? Isolated peasant farmers who worked their respective plot of land owned by their feudal lords. Was that better? Can a feudal, agricultural society create enough resources to send the children of peasant farmers to school? The poorest countries today are societies that are stuck in the agrarian stage. All of the poorest countries in the world are not industrialized. It seems to me that many of these malcontents are complaining about a system that actually raised the standard of living of the common people. Yes, the factory owners lived better. That is because they created a new thing, a new machine, and lowered the price of clothing. Have you seen what peasant farmers in China were wearing in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Their clothes had so many holes the fabric can barely hold together. Clothing made manually was too expensive for the peasant Chinese farmer and his family to buy. They wore clothes that were falling apart. The Industrial Revolution was established in Britain and Western Europe by the late 1800s. European workers lived in poorer conditions than the factory owner. But the European worker lived better than they lived on the farm before the Industrial Revolution. On the farm they were isolated and could not trade with anyone except their neighbors. It was the mechanized transportation system that got their crops to market so they could make some money. It was the mechanized spinning and weaving machines that made clothing cheaper so commoners can afford decent clothes. Yes, the factory owners had better clothes. But everyone had better clothes after the Industrial Revolution and free-market capitalism.
This is what the socialists, communists, and Brexiteers do not see. They are angry because some of their neighbors make more money than they do. The Industrial Revolution and free-market capitalism created new ways to make things. The people who invented these new ways to make things made a lot of money. They used their own ingenuity to make everyone's life better. But this is not because of thievery or unfair practices. What is unfair is communist societies. In a communist society you have a command economy. A small group of political elites confiscate the machines made by the original owners-inventors without compensating them. The communist leaders say they are taking the property of factory owners in order to benefit the people. This is thievery. The communist elites decide what to make and how much to make. The people can only buy what the political elite offer. There is no choice. This is not fair. This is the hypocrisy of these malcontents. The socialists, communists, and Brexiteers are the malcontents.
Sir Baldrick
First machine ever to use steam was done by a Spanish Army officer soldier and inventor named Jeronimo De Ayans. De Ayans is best remembered for the invention of a steam-powered water pump for draining mines, for which he was granted a patent by the Spanish monarchy in 1606.
He also improved scientific equipment, developed windmills and new types of furnaces for metallurgy and industrial, military and household use. He invented a bell-like diving suit and even designed a submarine. He died from a serious illness in Madrid, in 1613.
That was the first ever Steam Machine. Pumps to drain deep coal mines. From 1698, The BRITISH put steam to work on other applications and improved the Spanish Steam Machine, BUT THEY DIDNT INVENT THE STEAM MACHINE INITIALLY. 1606 DE AYANS DID IT FIRST in Spain. NOT 1698 Thomas Savery.
That is another lie to take the credit away from The Spanish as practiced by the british of that era. That is Called THE SPANISH BLACK LEGENDS. That is the name of Legends and lies created by the british Monarqui when they were enemies of The Spanish Empire. They also lied about many other things about The Spanish Empire. Just jealous of the Spanish conquering and colonizing most the new world.
Cant beat your rival? Just lie about them.
And yet, for all of these lies, the Spanish Empire went downhill and the British took over the world. The proof is in the pudding.
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but here: 1st century AD - Hero of Alexandria describes the Aeolipile, as an example of the power of heated air or water. The device consists of a rotating ball spun by steam jets; it produced little power and had no practical application, but is nevertheless the first known device moved by steam pressure. May not have been influential, memorable, or useful.. but it was there!
@@crab-manSorghame That toy did nothing. So it was not a real working machine. Just like the Chinese Flying Feather that Da Vinci took as his creation. Liar.
Italians did the same with Pasta food, (which are Chinese Noodles), Not Italian as they boast about. Liars..
@@CFITOMAHAWK2 also, even MORE sadly, you try to distance yourself from the object Jeronimo himself based it off of... he was marveled by it, tho you know surface, ancient knowledge at best.
you also dont realize how adaptation works, or advancement, apparently. when did i mention rice noodles, again? or the EDO period, when noodles were popularized.
I cannot judge the content of this documentary as I do not have the sources for it. However, the plates they show for the shirt are from a workwoman's guide, dating 1838, and where the workman and the gentleman's shirt are cut the same, with big blocks of fabric. The only difference is the quality of the linen, and the insert in the front. So no "no curves allowed for the workmen in contrast to gentlemen's shirts"...
at 14:10.. what's wrong with introducing middle class virtues like discipline, hard work, sobriety to poor people through education?
This is a fascinating and wonderfully made documentary. However, there is a note of GLARING hypocrisy to point out.
23:53 Let's open a history book, Englishman, perhaps to any year between 1690 and 1910 in particular and see if we can't figure out how a city fell to this.
Strikes are great, until you try to stop other people from going to work. Some people are content with their lot, let them be, allow them to remain content.
This reformism triumphalism is quite dated. All of these evils of the system are returning, and have been since the late 1970s.
I doubt Tony Robinson cares to examine the things having a 'huge impact on the social fabric of the country' today.
7:05 A basic human right we take for granted, the right to vote... Except the First Past The Post system still makes their vote irrelevant. That's why we've had Tory governments who had only 36% of the popular vote.
Plus voter suppression and gerrymandering here in the USA keep Republicans in office when they have no idea how to govern effectively, no do they want to. That plus a ridiculous Senate where tiny population states get the same number of senators as big states, so they have far greater senatorial representation per person, so not all votes are equal even when they can be cast.
@@ziploc2000 Yeah, because when the Democrats are in power redistricting never happens, except it does because districts can only hold a certain amount of people, if non citizens were not counted in the census then democrats would lose seats so of course you would not call for that, so it is oK when the votes in the house of reps are affected as long as it is in the lefts favor. Also the reason there are two senators per state instead of them distributed differently was originally to give each state the same voice in government, i big factor why the US ame into being instead of just states and no federal government, senators were even appointed by the state government instead of voted for at at all.
As usual leftoids want their party to gain more power and complains they don't have all the power, using rediculous childish arguments that are not even based in fact.
You can use the same argument for when labour was in power
Or labour that flooded the country with immigrants from 1997 despite the fact the indigenous never agreed to it.
No subtitles?
On seeing a documentary like this, it is easy to see why Australians are the way we are. We see ourselves as an egalitarian, classless society, largely, though there are some who pretend to be aristocratic, people like former foreign minister and ambassador to the USA, Alexander Downer, and former prime minister(recently deposed), Malcolm Turnbull, as two notable examples of would-be aristocrats. Australia rejected aristocracy in its early days when the idea was first put forward by John MacArthur, famous for merino sheep breeding, infamous for his putrid views on society in Australia. When Australia became federated on this day(1st January, 1901, first day of the 20th Century) 118 years ago, it was determined that both houses of Australia's parliament would be decided by public vote, the upper house termed "Senate", not a House of Lords, and the lower house to be termed "House of Representatives", not "House of Commons". Already Australia's method of governance was far superior to that of Britain in that we, the people, decided who would occupy seats in BOTH houses of parliament. We have long ago rejected the putrid stench of aristocracy in Australia.... Oh sure, let Malcolm Turnbull and Alexander Downer pretend all they want.... it does NOT make them aristocrats except in their own minds.
Neil Forbes . Yes, and now you have no heavy industry because your socialist utopia sold out your workers to China. You just replaced one aristocracy with another. Instead, you have oligarchies overseen by freemasonry. Really not much different at all. NOBODY rises above non com no matter what they do for a living unless they become a freemason. Want to become a fire crew captain ? Gotta be a Freemason. Want to get above sergeant in the police force ? Better join the lodge. Want to survive in your own small business ? You wont last five minutes unless your part of the brotherhood.
Whatever superiority you had over the british system you lost it long ago to maritime/corporate capture. Australians are taxed to the hilt, indebted more than anyone and they call it the lucky country ! Well it was for a while but the usual players corrupted your govt a long time ago.
Dream on, Brian, you've been fed bullshit by conspiracy theorists, or perhaps you're a conspiracy theorist as well.
It wasn't the socialists of Labor who sold us out, it was the treasonous LIBERALS, who are akin to those filthy, treacherous REPUBLICANS in the Putrid States of America(spelt with a lower-case first letter to bring that country into line with its true level of insignificance in the world with Donald Dump as president).
Neil Forbes. Socialists. The guys who join the lodge then deny they are masons. Liars and thieves just like their Liberal brothers.
Neil Forbes.Funny thing about Socialists. They will bitch and whine about the evils of capitalism till the cows come home but if you agree with them and then point out the source of this evil, privately owned central banks, they will go in to to denial quicker than you can say puddle town Martyrs. You guys are complicit in the evils you profess to hate. Lying scumbags the lot of you. I have not met a card carrying socialist yet who was not an arse crawling social climbing union pension fund stealing back stabbing shill.
change? what change? what is changed? sure it maybe looks less grim today, but basic formula is the same
Are we really working in the free world? Come on man, you must know better!
In U.S children work hard and died to in factory work too!! Till the laws changed kids were small could get in small places, sad !!
I remember an elementary school field trip to Slater's Mill, one of the first factories of this kind in the U.S. Very similar, and our teachers and guides made no bones about the fact that children our age were literally torn to pieces in places like this. Absolutely terrified me.
Nise
What a cunning plan!
Up here in the land of the Satanic mills we knew how to become the wreckers of those mills and it's machinery. But the power is back with the employers to all in the world as the lazy and stupid pass back power to those who own the mills. As descendants of the Brigantes the people haven't forgotten how to be powerful in our own way!!
Personally I think that if a business owner abusers the workers they should be stripped and whipped in public - I think that should do the job. If the local beak - judge - refuse to carry out the charge they receive 60 lashes instead of the twenty the business person was to get... the business person will still be whipped and stripped of their wealth.
No more abuse of workers anywhere worldwide.
Mark Doney-Mccloud
I would definitely vote for that.
I wonder if this is the same Greggs family that now run the sausage rolls
Not many mills left all machines shipped to India health and safety closed most manufacturers
44:20 : "......the free world we live in, today.......".
Tony.......are you mad...???
WHAT freedom.....????
Tony's a wealthy boomer, he can't help being clueless.
the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
who else is from ags
44:45 “free world we have today,” ha! The struggle continues, especially in an age of never before seen inequality- workers of the world unite!
There were noisier places than a cotton mill right up till the 1960's.
@MichaelKingsfordGray I said...
Computer rooms with mainframes deafened my step-father
Why is it always the Irish with the morals 😂 those Anglos are so ruthless
When will Rowan Atkinson appear and call him baldric
34:46 There is the copper boiler used on wash day.
How did that work in with the room rent story?
We can see that it's a drawing
The Industrial Revolution provided an economic role for a surplus rural population that might well otherwise have starved. The vote was granted to people who paid taxes.
actually farmers were forcibly ejected from their farms, check Scottish history. They came to America. WE DON'T CONSIDER HUMAN BEINGS 'SURPLUS POPULATION' HERE.
Oh, what about the Africans imported to America as slaves in the 18th and 19th centuries? They were treated as "surplus population" after Abraham Lincoln abolished slavery in 1865 or so.
Once we stopped being hunter and gatherers mankind went down hill. We became week and no longer captured our own food.
We grew "week"? A "week" is a period of 7 days. Don't you mean we grew "weak"? And in any case you are quite wrong. When we stopped hunting and gathering, which was part of a nomadic lifestyle, we learned agriculture and gained the ability to feed ourselves from what we grew. We also learned to farm livestock(cattle, pigs and such) which we raised for meat. Farming was strenuous work, so that negates the claim that we grew weak.
@@neilforbes416 wasnt just us domesticating them... how could we have done so, had we nothing to offer them? farming leads to civilization. Hunting? The cold, dark, vast, all-encompassing landscape that has claimed the lives of the majority of our people.. the woods.
Who else is here because of SOC 101 and you need an A?
I think it's pathetic schools rely on RUclips videos to teach history
This building should be heritage listed and never redeveloped
It is
Too many ads
right
@Celto Loco You're not the boss of me
@@intractablemaskvpmGy Yeah, but your employer is! HA!
What ads? I saw none at all.
and the current (2023) Tory Party is still battling to restrict Worker Rights: Underpaying Nurses and other service workers is still the top priority of the Conservative Government of the U.K.
They start the entire show off by avoiding a key issue. They never said WHY people would work in the mills. If the places were so horrible, and they did seem to be, why did they choose to work there? Have you heard about gangs of armed men combing the beautiful pastoral countryside looking for people to capture and take as slaves in the mills? I haven't. The workers had a choice, and they made it of their own free will. However bad the mills were, it was better than what they were doing before. The mills paid more money, and the hours were not any worse than everyone else was working.
The cities and the factories and the mills were where the wages were. Society was moving away from agrarian means of production and moving towards industrial production. Initially, the draw of the pay of these jobs would have outweighed the potential challenges, hardships, and dangers. This documentary seems to focus on the time period after industrialism has been flourishing for a long time. The cities are overcrowded, factory owners are demanding more work and longer hours from their workers, they are developing more tactics to punish workers and strip them of wages, the physical ailments of the industry jobs were starting to take their toll. It became a system that was no longer sustainable.
Also, calling it freedom of choice is a little bit of a misconception anyway. When you have orphans, children, and young teenagers entering the work force, they are at the mercy of the will of their guardians, parents, bosses, etc. The episode before even talked about how a boy's mother paid for him to come home to her & the factory owner still got the boy back because he was still under his contract. These children had no idea what they were signing up for, and even if they did, they had no choice in the matter.
@@bluesira They moved to work in factories because the conditions in them were better than being back on the farm. You are just putting a spin on things that doesn't fit the evidence. Children worked on the farm, they worked in small craft shops, they worked everywhere back then. Contracts were also typical in craft shops in the day. You want to think that factories were horrible, and compared to today, they were, but compared to all the other options, it was better than many options open to common people.
@@deezynar That doesn't make anything I said not true. Children worked in the fields, in the shops, in the factories. They did NOT have a choice in the matter. Saying it's better than the farms is irrelevant bc they didn't have a choice between the factories and the farms. Adults controlled their life. Also, saying it was better is incredibly relative. The point I made is that even IF the factory jobs started off being better, or a more attractive alternative to farm life, it still BECAME something completely unsustainable and inhumane. Once the workers start to show symptoms of their ailments, once injuries start to rack up, once industry pollution clouds the skies, once industrial runoff & overcrowding make life miserable and disease-filled. It's the type of life you may have been able to put up with for a little while, but not for years and years, esp if your bosses were adding bogus years to your contract, as in the video.
@@bluesira Still playing the liberal game that the factory owners were all horrible. There is nothing more that can be said, you want to believe the garbage you've been fed and ignore the easily seen reality. People left miserable lives on farms to work in factories because it was better for them. As bad as the factories were, it was better for them. Over time, people complained about the conditions and the conditions improved.
@@deezynar Nothing more can be said, I agree with you on that. Once you bring in terms like 'liberal' or 'conservative', it's obvious we're not having a discussion about history. I will not continue to engage in this politically-motivated conversation.
And then along came Thatcher and her ilk.
Who else is here from my class?
no but im doing it for school too
People in this country are too bone Idol to work like that now, Britain is embarrassing
As for Manchester...it's never changed.
5:20 ba dum tshhh 😜😏
With vastly increasing world population, essential dietary protein is becoming increasingly scarce. People are exploring almost any protein source, rats, farmed fish and algae, bugs, almost anything is becoming acceptable.
Nah the scarcity is largely artificial and created by capitalism as a necessaty for it to work. 1% is holding nearly all resources and tells the rest to fight over scraps
Workers of the world UNITE!
Thank you comrade Marx and Engels ✊🏻
Yea thanks for all the state sanctioned killings that have happened whenever communists get in power. The millions the Chinese killed, the millions the Russians killed and the 25% of the Cambodian population that were killed by the communists. Yea thanks Marx and Engels you did a fantastic job of cutting the life of millions of people short.
21:17 its basicly like america today
was made to watch this in class, brother was just yapping for 45 minutes. 0/10
shame tony was a strong voice for oppression in the last 2 GE's
This is a VIP history lesson. 240123
Surfs were slaves.
Dreadful distracting 'Music' soundtrack.
Steam Engine
Could anyone help me understand where all the raw cotton came from?
cotton grows pretty quickly, its very hardy, and it doesn't need too fertile a soil. much of it imported, most of it grown and harvested by hand. picture dozens of workers, weather you look at them as sharecroppers, slaves, or farmhands, thats your rhetoric... picture them holding huge sacks, big as a child but wide as a car door... then picture each man hauling atleast 2 on his back, stuffing another with more. they did it by the bag, really.
China
It was imported from America. Greg’s uncle owned a cotton plantation whereas Greg owned a sugar plantation. They were a large and wealthy family, wealth all built on the back of slaves and child labour
The Southern states of the US, Egypt and India.
It was a wonderful documentary until I started sleeping..
Virtue signaling? Don't know. But I do know that it made my hair stand up on multiple occasions.
Mr bean gone rouge