Rob Reacts to... What do the Trucks really look like in Australia?
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Are all the trucks in Australia just long road trains?
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They get a lot of flack but truck drivers are arguably the most important and underappreciated service providers not only here, but where ever populations require essential goods.
One of my best mates growing up was a truckie and I learned that you “don’t dirty the truck” The Aussie truck drivers that do Adelaide to Melbourne or Melbourne to Sydney etc live in these trucks, they sleep and eat etc in their trucks, it is their working home. Hence they like to keep them clean. They also spend a lot of time polishing the chrome on the exterior to make sure things look great
Melbourne to Adelaide (Western Hyway) the road from east and west side of Ararat not good. Narrow and heavily used. With Road trains and BTRIPLES using the Western Hyway. Major accidents waiting too happen.
Around where I am (North East Victoria) there are the four types of trucks, not talking size or brand, but firstly the company owned fleet - which are generally filthy with a layer of grime, and could carbon date the stratigraphic layers of wrappers and old paperwork in the cab. Secondly are the young owner drivers, which are generally immaculately presented in a second hand truck, possibly in someone else's livery (partially). The Third are the older owner drivers and family company, which are the show and shine chrome bright work and the OTT lights everywhere. The Fourth are the Farmer's trucks, as long as it starts and passes the inspection for roadworthy, it's fine, they're filthy.
Edit: the offshoot of the third/fourth are the vintage and classics that are restored to showcase conditions, by the retiree owner, which inevitably end up being put to use on the irregular job, including hay carting - and that includes deliveries for Blaze-Aid.
@@PiersDJackson yeah we see the farmer trucks come wheat harvest and vintage
@@robertmurray8763 Ararat. What a shithole.
No roadtrains in Perth. On the outskirts of town are "roadtrain assembly areas" where trailers are taken and parked, then the driver will hook it all up and nick off
We have a lot of trucks on Leach Highway all day long.,with the two trailers. Sheep trucks,container trucks, single.
trucks and an awful lot of cars. Its quite dangerous. My grand daughter had a bit of a dingle with a monster truck,
it pulled her whole front end off. We need Roe 8 to re route the trucks.
They're not road trains (triples) but double B's. Definitely big enough, or too big, for the suburbs. Leach highway is quite busy with them
Hi Rob. As a Melbourne born bloke, now retired living in a small country town just off the Hume Highway in Northern Victoria, the main highway from Melbourne to Sydney, I see all of the various cabs shown here. They are restricted to 100kph, and on the Hume, cars and motorcycles can do 110kph. It is interesting to see those who have wound up to 100kph and passing another on a grade, obviously struggling and doing 1 or 2 k slower, it takes a bloody long time to pass, particularly if it is B-double. You are stuck behind the one in the RH lane while he passes. The one being passed will flash his lights to let the other know when he can move back into the left lane... it is usualy only a couple of feet to spare. The one just pased wil flash his indicators left and right as a way of saying thanks. When I towed our caravan, quite often on the Hume, less than 100kph, the semis would pass and caravaners will give the same flash of headlights when they can pull back in. The Hume is at least dual lane in both directions, 110kph all the way betwen Melbourne and Sydney, and now the National Highway to Brisbane, the same. The Hume runs by our house about 2km away, slightly elevated, and on a still night, you hear them, but we are used to it. They are lit up like Christmas trees, quite pretty really. They are just about one after the other at night, in both directions. We also have the train line only a couple of hundred meters away, and at night, the big freight trains vibrate our house. They can be a couple of Km long, pulled by 4 locos, particularly the grain trains, you can tell 4 locos are going full throttle, they can do 120kph. That is something to see. Also duel line, the main line between Sydney and Melbourne.. i hope I didn't prattle on too much.
I'm a truckie in Australia Ive driven road trains for the past 20 years I've been in every state and territory I've driven every make of truck we get in Australia in my 20 years I've driven everything from 1 trailer up to 7 trailers
My late father, who only ever had the chance to drive single trailers always preferred bonnetted trucks as his opinion is if something came at you or you hit something at least you had that bull bar and long bonnet
My sisters husband fries a mack pulling a folding b - double log trailer 90% local work - they spend Sunday washing, cleaning and changing the linens on the bed on the prime mover that he drives during the week as there opinion is its his office 5 days a week 12 hours a day he wants a clean office
I had a little giggle when you said the inside of that cab didn’t look anything like your Dad’s. I doubt any Australian truck cab looks like that either, the steering wheel is on the left! 😂
Seeing a container truck reversing into a warehouse driveway in an urban area dodging parked cars and power poles is amazing. The streets are not wide.
That's the sort of thing my dad used to do. They are such skilled drivers!
I can barely reverse my Toyota Yaris into a parking spot!
I drive an MR truck and it can be tight enough getting that into some drives, the containers are amazing.
Another point is you’ll mostly see cabover style in Australia due to government length regulation but both have there pros and cons. My dads a been a truck driver for as long as I can remember and IMO they deserve more respect in Australia they are often looked down on but without them you won’t have your food on the table and most other goods. They have a old saying that without trucks Australia stops and can’t be said any better, I don’t know what other countries are like but Australia relies on trucks more than what people think
Trucks are important.
I’ve seen NSW registration papers on old trucks (fixed not semis) and the category was Lorry or maybe Motor Lorry.
They were called by both names, truck and lorry, when I was a kid growing up in Sydney. I’m 72.
I live in a part of rural New South Wales Australia outside the road train area. The most common long-haul trucks I see are B-doubles, 26-wheelers with two trailers. They too have restrictions on where they can be driven. In urban areas they are limited to a few specific routes and there are divisions within them based on the length of the B-double. Some are 19m, some are 25. You won't find B-doubles trundling along suburban streets or in CBDs. Even in rural areas these trucks can run foul of weight limits on sealed back roads which do not have the pavement strength to cope with them, although can be exemptions for trucks on farm related work. B-doubles will arrive at urban depots and the trailers individually will be taken to final destinations outside B-routes.
I got my medium rigid license for my emergency services volunteer thing - cab over, 17 ton max, single rear axle - and the different skills I had to pick up gave me a new appreciation for truck drivers!
Great video Rob. I worked in the transport industry all my working life in Operations - warehousing. Ten years working for Brambles Manford back in the day, when it was arguably one of the biggest transport companies in Australia.
Ps I'm in love with your kitty and she obviously adores you 💞.
She looks just like our girl, Layla. Both such beautiful girls 🙂
cab overs are better for maneuverability and hence are used more in the cities. The bonneted trucks get used for interstate or intercity work. often the choice can be dictated by the trailer lengths.
I drove cab overs and long nose trucks in local Melbourne streets and interstate in B- doubles and single trailers anything from 8 speed to 18 speed road ranger gearboxes to splicers they all have a part to play in the Australian trucking industry from light freight to heavy freight it's a hard life driving trucks but I loved it and miss it
Absolutely correct! I have great respect for the truckies and their manoeuvrability skills. I can't even back a tiny trailer, let alone a giant piece of machinery. Of course there are the yobbos🤦🏼♀️, but the majority are skilled wonderful humans 😊👌
Single axle trailers are harder to reverse than everything else.
stop ignoring your cat! LOL!
Road trains not allowed in Perth. Doubles can come in on the outskirts on certain roads, but not triples.
I've seen a cab over truck's cab flip forward in motion half way through an intersection, it was a very modern truck, I'd've thought by now they had cut out switches that would prevent them from even being started without the cab being locked down properly.
My Dad is Truckie that often does several thousand km round trips with his road train. He lives in the South West region of WA and services the entire state often to the Pilbara and Kimberly regions which is in the north of the state.
When I was in the RAAF in the 1970's, I drove an old Kenworth HGV, what a nightmare to drive, it had no synchromesh in the 18 speed gearbox, so it was a pain changing gears to get up to speed. You get used to it but I still hated that truck.
Road ranger is still standard fit on manual Kenworth 18 speed non syncro.
Heavy Rigid Vehicles tend to be cabover styles to keep the payload area large without going over govt regulated length, ie tip trucks and pantechnicon and are used on daily and local runs. Tractor Trailer, or Semi Trailer, tend to be bonneted trucks as they are more comfortable and spacious for multiday and interstate journeys
Hello Pixie! Oh you too Rob! 😉🤣
In Australia when I was young, in the 70's, there was a bit of a, for lack of better words, "trucking culture". In particular, Mack Trucks were considered really cool in my primary school. Funny how times change.
Underrated for sure...much respect for the truckies 👏
Looked like your cat was ready to swat you, give you the claw of, I am here pat me.
There is a lot more differences between cab overs and bonnet trucks.
In Europe they measure the length from the front to the back of the trailers. If you have a bonnet it adds several metres to the length.
Cab overs have a shorter chassis length meaning a better turning circle.
Cab overs have a better view due to no bonnet.
Bonneted trucks with a longer wheelbase are more comfortable over distances and can carry more fuel.
Some don’t like the cab over in case of an accident due to your feet almost touching the front of the truck whereas the bonnet gives a couple of metres impact.
There are many more points.
The cab overs are just as powerful and in many cases more powerful. The Scanias and Volvos can be over 800hp although I'm not sure they get imported here.
You obviously didn't visit Parramatta Rd when you were in Sydney because it's 6 lanes total where there should only be 4 or 5. The lanes are only just wide enough for a heavy vehicle and sitting in the kerbside lane is just asking to lose a mirror on a telegraph pole.
IWRocker has already been going over trucks for months, he is a guru when it comes to recognising trucks, cars, rally etc. not something I expected you to cover, but interested in what you think regardless.
Rob's not a fan of IWRocker. I like both Ian and Rob.
@@davidskinner274 same
very strict vehicle length limits work in favour of cabovers...a bullbar on a bonneted truck might just put you over length depending which state yr in
That's what I was going to say. You can have longer trailers/dollies/combos with a shorter truck
The bonneted truck, apart from allowing bigger engines & better access, if designed right, it can be much more aerodynamic & therefore more fuel efficient over long distance than a cab over.
Peterbilts are exceptionally rare in Australia. Both Kenworth and Peterbilt are owned by the same parent company, Paccar. Paccar have an Australian Kenworth assembly line in Victoria. It been there for decades and every Kenworth model sold in Australia and NZ is built there. The only remaining cab over engine Kenworth model (the K200) in the world is built there.
If Paccar were to import Peterbilt from the US, it would just take away some of their Kenworth sales. So the few Peterbilts seen on Australian roads are special imported, RHD conversions for a handful of very keen people who specifically want one. They've never been sold new through a dealership in Australia.
I’m in Perth and frequently see road trains out and about .. and as much as i appreciate what trucks contribute to the country, there is nothing worse then travelling along the G/E Hwy or Roe Hwy in Perth and getting stuck behind one of those conventional cab type trucks/road trains while it is moving gigantic pieces of mining equipment.
They take up all lanes, so no overtaking and travel so slowly. I get stuck behind these about 2 times a year. Once ended up 40 minutes late to work 😂😂
It is cool to see the giant equipment they tow though, however once you look at it for an hour, it loses its novelty 😂
It could be worse, what if they had to stop at traffic lights? I’ve been to the MTA headquarters on an excursion and we watched the traffic controllers at work. When those big trucks go through Perth with mining equipment on them slowing them down they coordinate the traffic lights so they don’t have to stop and start and make it even slower. They do the same thing with the lights for things like donor organs getting from the airport to the hospital if they are flown in from interstate.
There are signs on the back of many trucks in Australia saying if trucks stop Australia stops. This applies in any country because everything you buy comes off the back of a truck and l don't know what it's like in other countries but in Australia these are some of the hardest working and most under paid and appreciated workers in the country they work obscene hours which goes way beyond log book hours loading and uploading these trucks l done it for 42 years and loved it but grew to hate it because of over regulation and under appreciation as to what truck drivers contribute to the economies of the countries they work in great show from an old retired trucky.
Rob, just a weird titbit for you... the Red, Blue and Green prime movers (lorries), you remarked upon are a Peterbuilt, a Kenworth and a Daf, all are owned by PACCAR... these three are two American and a Dutch brand, from about 1980 until 2006 they built the British brand Foden, which for it's swansong was nothing more than a badge engineered Daf.
We call them lorries here too , blokes named Laurie.
Road Trains aren't allowed to drive in the metro areas of Perth and the town centres with many having bypass roads to keep these trucks away from regular traffic. There are places outside Perth where they need to unhitch the third trailer. These truckies are the lifeblood of Australia and without them we'd be screwed, kudos to all the truckies out there.
Conventional trucks can have far far bigger engines than a cab over could ever dream of.
Thanks for the video I haven't really thought about trucks like that before.
They are "Trucks" in Sydney, "Lorrys" in Tasmania!! 🤨 This is very interesting and informative! 🧐 You should see "Outback Truckers" Rob! 😁 Cheers! 👍
There is a saying down here..."without trucks Australia stops". Without these legends criss crossing the the length & breadth of this vast land we'd be ratsh*t, up sh*t creek without a paddle in a barbed wire canoe. Have a think for a moment how do you think your cornflakes, milk & sugar arrived in town. It's not as if they are highly paid either, poor bastards. Most are hard working, rough as guts, salt of the earth type dudes. I've never driven a Semi (not licenced) but often been a passenger. My experience has been that the cab over style are as rough as guts, whereas the long bonneted style are a much more comfy ride. Here in Central Qld you often see them with 3 trailers but in the more remote areas they have up to 5. As you get closer to the coast there are huge laybys where they drop off the excess trailers cos in the urban areas they are only legally permitted to drive through with a Prime Mover & a single trailer
@robertclothier3597, I remember the rolling industrial actions in the late 70s/early 80s(back in the "Tammy's got one, Malcolm is one" days...) where truckies were blockading the ports and the outskirts of major cities in response to action taken against the TWU, the wharfies and the storeman & packers went out in solidarity and damn near shut the whole country down...we would be completely stuffed without our friendly local neighbourhood gear-jammers...😁
🙃🐨🇦🇺
@@grandy2875 lol never heard that one but yes I remember that really well myself. Huge blockades into Brisbane but I was too young to fully understand what was happening but was able to sort of catch the vibe
@Robert Clothier Yet before the motor vehicle, it was all done by rail. Maybe less efficiently, but the country still survived
@@melissabarrett9750 before the limited rail network that now exists, everything was transported by ship from port to port and then distributed by horse and dray/cart,,,a much slower process to be sure. The fact that road transport is still such a huge part of logistics in this country is testimony to the fact that rail infrastructure is still not adequate for the needs of a country the size of Australia...we can but hope that in time, more of this vital infrastructure will be built but I won't see it in my lifetime, nor probably will my children see it in theirs...
There a few videos around Rob, that show the interiors of some of these new trucks, you will be amazed on how they are specked up now lol
Yeah, some of the new truck interiors look more like one would expect a fictional TV show or movie space shuttle interior to look (which is nothing like a real one) like rather than a truck.
You would have seen a lot of B doubles in Australia? There is a TV here outback truckers which is interesting. There is a train version also, did you know all of Western Australia’s food and produce comes across by rail from Sydney and Melbourne?
53.5m road trains are not allowed past Kalgoorlie.
Just a little snippet for you. Running without a trailer on is called "bobtail" in Aus. I have no idea about the UK or USA. And i agree with other commenters that in general the trucks and cabs are kept very clean. It's their workplace and their home away from home!
In Australia In the 80s when there were no speed cameras I was passed by big trucks ..they were doing over 140 kmph ( 80 mph) up to 100mph
The word Lorry is very UK and certainly not used in Australia.
It is when your toddler cannot say truck without sounding rude. My son called them Lorrie as his T sound came out as an F
They were often called lorries when I was a kid more than 60 years ago. It gradually faded out and they all started being called trucks.
Hello Pixie 😂😂
PS. Adelaide Strikers playing Hobart Hurricanes now in Hobart!! 7pm AEDT!! 😁 Canes to win! 👍
I'm watching it in bed now ☺️
@@RobReacts1 😄👍
I would be interested to hear your fathers reaction to this video.
Cab overs allow for a longer trailer and still stay within legal lenths
You have to be a tough bloke (or woman) to be a road train driver, it's probably one of the most grueling of all truck driving jobs in the world other than ice road truckers and dangerous road truckers. They are driving across the outback away from civilization, and it takes almost a whole week to get from Adelaide to Darwin or Perth - Living in their cabs, eating crap food, looking out for animals and highway robbers who block the road.
If only some smart bugger would make a perfume that smelled like a cattle truck. My Mrs would have birthdays and Xmas covered.
Next you should watch: The World's Longest Truck - Road Train in Australia
The video a little old as now road trains are allowed in SA city's now they modified traffic lights and round about to accommodate them only place their not allowed is the very middle of the city or town as we call it
Also I think read on another site they allow them in Victoria now as well
The long nose trucks have always been much nicer inside here in Australia 🇦🇺 but these days the cab overs are exceptional especially if get top of range models
That the difference between kenworth and Piter built is the luxury kenworth with bigger engines all brands have them
Also it's compulsory for all these vechiles to have separate heating and cooling so wh3n vechiles of they can control temperature in cab for sleeping they have a small compressor on back of the prime move is what we call them which is run by a small diesel engine
Their similar to refrigeration units on trailers but much smaller
Cheers mate I work most of my life In transportation and drove smaller trucks around city and centre of city
People don't understand that if trucks stopped tomorrow you'd stave in weeks everything we do is transported but vechiles
Hi Pixie
When I got my C class licence ( now MC ) back early 80s speed for trucks was still 80kmh ( 50mph) as we now have 100 kmh Nation wide for all trucks including road trans the exception is for indivisible loads requiring escorts
Yea UK lorries can go 51mph
I drive a 4wd ute but in the US of A, they call them trucks lol
G'day Rob and Charlie,
Glad you got to Aus hope you
Both had a good sticky beek ,
I'm a retired truckie and I have
Driven Roadtrains all sorts
Things ,I even drove my wife round The bend ! You
Said that you've never seen a
Truck with a flash interior like the one in the video ! In Aus
That is a basic level set-up
Except the steering wheel
Was on the wrong side !
Hope you get back to Aus soon
Mate ,
I'm used to seeing what my dad has driven in his many years driving. Always filthy and always pretty basic. We will be back down under in September
Road train have been running in Victoria in last few years I'm in Ballarat Victoria and we get 2 trailer road trains
That cab view is pure plastic fluff. I hate modern vehicles with a passion. I know that the door is open, because I'm the one that opened it. "Stop the ďing". But thanks for the vid and yes we choose the truck that is appropriate for the circumstance.
why they cut off parts those states thats where the rail freight transport is
We also have Female Truckies in Australia.
At 5.45 when he’s talking about Trucks in tight streets in Australia and he uses a photographic example to support his statement, why does he show a street that’s obviously NOT in Australia? Fail
Man, I would never be a truck driver its not a job I would do, or could do it's too much work for me. It would be a nightmare.
I have heaps of respect for the guy's and girl's that do it. They keep the country going, and without them we would be f,cked.
I'd say that 97% of the the stuff we use everyday has been on a truck, it's probably 100% of stuff ?
I'm personally very thankful for these people and the work they do 🙂🇦🇺👍
Oh btw near where I live is a truck museum with some special edition Kenworth trucks that are stunning, also a lights on the hill memorial for all the poor buggers have been killed driving trucks.
Say Hi to your cat from me. 👋🐈⬛
Why do you sound exactly like Warwick Davis?
Australia manufactures (& exports to other right hand drive countries like New Zealand) every Kenworth on our roads and are by far the most popular prime mover and truck of choice by many owner drivers and freight companies and just spend a few hours on the Hume Hwy interstate between Melbourne and Sydney and Kenworths outnumber any other linehaul semi, B-Double or train and also the K-series Cab-over Kenworths are not just intrastate but are extremely popular and common on the interstate also for hauling trailers due to length restrictions and as matter of fact Australia is the only place in the world that builds Cab over KW’s also they are built stronger for Australian conditions and unique specifications as they have to be as there are not too many smooth roads like there are in the US for instance, also Australia builds Volvos and Mack’s in Queensland, I have to take issue with the commentator as there are numerous falsehoods and inaccuracies in his assumptions one for instance Peterbuilts sold in Australia as they are not, the only Peterbuilts are private imports and converted to right hand drive but these are few and far between, also Road trains (apart from B-Doubles) are legally operated in the southern state of Victoria on designated roads along with a lot of other untruths, You will not find such a vast array of trucks, trailers and trucking infrastructure anywhere in the world like we do here and Australia is the World leaders in heavy vehicle design and operations period, as this has evolved since well before the Second World War because with a sparsely populated country just about on par with the size of the USA, we have had to!
Apart from everything said below being true, I want to see you pat your cat! Your cat has been patiently waiting for you to finish this video so it can get your full attention. Near the end the cat gets a little frustrated and grips your wrist quite firmly.
Yes, Pixie is feeling emotionally neglected... She definitely needs more cuddles
I like dogs.
Having choices is democratic, Rob, not diplomatic 🙂
I dont know what comes out my mouth half the time :D
Ummm…your cat needs a pay. Just saying
Trucks, Rob, lorry is a girl's name 😂 But with a different Spelling
No, you cannot drive road trains in cities or built up urban areas.
It's not just talking about road trains. It's on about the ones with the long bonnets
Obviously you're not looking at people's suggestions 🙄