Completely agree. There are, imo, just two ways to seal wheels: quick and dirty after every wash with something durable (Sonax BSD, ADBL Synthetic Spray Wax, Gyeon Wet Coat), or the full ceramic way. Everything in between and especially wheel waxes don‘t really make any sense.
Personally I don't think they hold up between washes & I've tried many. Nor do they offer the same ease of cleaning as coatings. They are better than nothing but I would use them more as a topper on top of a ceramic coating on the wheels as opposed to a dedicated wheel sealant that for me they simply can't do.
I have used C5 and DLux on the same vehicle. I agree that C5 is easier to work with. After 18 months, I would say both perform similarly and still allow the dirt to come off with a simple pressure washer.
The long term tests are worth the wait for me. I enjoy them and appreciate the time you invest into bringing us the content. Keep it up and I’ll keep watching! Thanks.
One of my cars is fully coated in Carbon Collective, it has Platinum and Oracle layered on the paint. Instead off buying another coating for wheels I just layered Platinum and Oracle on the wheels too
I just love to put fusso on my daily car wheels - fusso is strong enough to survive summer or winter season. Cleaning the wheels is so easy it's almost unbelievable.
Has to be said I'd like to see KKD R-Evolve tested against the rest, as others have said it seems to be one of the most recommended when viewed on detailing forums and groups
I know I’ve already commented, but it’s really interesting reading the comments. Obviously this test was of 4 of the big selling wheel coatings, so a lot of people who have coated their wheels will, most likely, have used one or more of these products. However, there are more than 4 coatings out there to choose from. Particularly, if you’re in the UK, you have an excellent option. It’s like everybody’s arguing over the best burger at McDonalds but not even thinking about trying the fillet steak!
@@owenwishon9675 KKD R-Evolve. It is probably double the durability of those 4, if not more! The best part is that it costs £35 for 30ml so it isn’t even more expensive. I am not exaggerating those claims either, it’s durability is crazy. That is the fillet steak.
I have the Gtechniq C5 on my wheels. Gtechniq say it's good for 2 years and 20 months in I still get beading on the wheels when they are clean. The car is a daily, regularly washed. I use Autoglym Magma every few washes and just car wash soap and a wheel wand to clean them. So far so good.
Really appreciate your effort in the longevity of these testings! Fantastic review. I've honestly never bought a wheel coating. I just use the leftover of the paint coating.
Another good one Jon. I’ve used Rim, C5 and Platinum, I’m sticking with C5 because it’s by far the easiest to apply. In my experience since none of them last much more than a year or 10k miles, reapplying regularly is the way to go. Off to set up a Patreon for you mate, I’ve learned loads from your channel over the last few years 👍🏻
Honestly surprised with the results. I’ve had Platinum Wheels (two coats) on my wheels for almost a year, and the durability and water behaviour is just as good as when I put it on. Would agree that it’s a delight to use.
I don’t understand why PW and C5 don’t have hydrophobic behaviour and seem like sheeting instead was this what they was looking for? I sometimes think when I wax the car these little tiny bubbles of rain water will dry into water spots and would be better if it all sheeted off if that makes sense
that can happen. In fact no protection or true hydrophillic protection helps with this. people tend to think sheeting = hydrophillic when it does not. plus when I show a product with poor hydrophobic performance people think the product sucks even if its just using a material thats not hydrophobic. without hydrophobicity all detailing products fall all under the emperors new clothes catagory. there is nothing you can actually measure to determine performance. so you have to take a leap of faith.. people wont take leaps of faith, they favour things they can observe.
@@ForensicDetailing yeah your right and that makes sense , I prefer sheeting that way there less sitting on the paintwork , seeing little water bubbles on waxed surface looking nice for awhile until it stop raining and i am tempted to use a drying cloth or the water blower or else it will remain there until I drive 🤦🏾♂️
Great video, thank you. I’ve also found Dlux difficult to apply and have spent hours polishing off hotspots. C5 I’ve used in the past and was much easier to apply.
Hi Jon, I applied C5 nearly two years ago and I have cleaned and added a QD on a regular basis and am delighted with the performance. When I get round to removing the wheels & reapplying a coating I will probably go with C5 again as it has given everything it promised
@@jamietaylor3075 application and appearance same but difficult to compare performance as I have only had Hades of for about 9 months. I will say however that C5 lasted over two years and I could have left it longer. Its worth saying though that I look after my wheels so not sure if you would get that performance on a set of wheels that didn't get the care that mine do
I still believe the Gtechniq is the go to despite the results. If you are looking for a hydrophobic coating then this is a great comparison. If you are looking for a coating to keep brake dust from eating in, is highly durable in that environment, and does what a wheel coating should then it’s the go to.
And that’s not saying John’s test is wrong, far from it. It’s just different people want different things. For me my car is first and foremost a drivers car. It spends more time on track than it does as a show car. So as John said a hydrophobic coating might not be best as it’s pushed the water off before it has chance to release the brake dust. I tried Rim and it was far less repellent to sticking brake dust so went back to C5.
I have used 2 bottles of Gyeon Rim the last two years or so, and I am very satisfied with it. Was tempting to use Gtechniq C5, but I will stick to my old trustworthy Gyeon Rim for sure :) thanks for the very nice video as always
@@Tops1212 - for the summer wheels, easily 2 summers (early April to late October) - I do not use harsh chemicals at all (not needed). I would guess 20000km perhaps? Not entirely sure.
Bought the Gteqniq a year ago and still haven't got round to doing it yet. I had no idea what I was buying but reviews seemed good. Whilst the results might be the "best" of those tested here I'm no longer scared of trying what appears an easy to apply ceramic, to get some experience before I look into one for the rest of the car. I had them powdercoated and believe they were also clearcoated so looks like I got the one was right for me at least. Thanks Jon!
Great video Jon, I admire hugely the approach to have a taken to purchase these items yourself in order to provide a balanced review. I hope people realise this and support you by becoming a patron. You need to be supported so we can all be informed, keep up the fantastic work.
appreciate it Mark. I need to up my game as well and think of ways to make it appealing and grow the community its coming on leaps and bounds though. Thanks mate for signing up.
@@ForensicDetailingall those wheel coatings are trash & dated . Use KKD revolve x which is far more durable on those crap you reviewed especially the shocking bad gtechniq c4
John kisho from Japan $8 for it has tested very well here in US the wheel coating has been more durable than Dlux they designed it to be applied but not wiped off it self levels it been I have it all over in fridge, grill, toilet ect also there 1 paint coating 901 is a beast the guy from Texas had it last 2 years in one of his 30 coating test video. Only downside is hard to apply it’s also ok to use damp applicator like modesta to apply. I think 901 cost $11 but it’s difficult it’s sio2 with fluorine additives in the coating. They have other coatings and toppers really decent company. I’ve applied 901 to about 15 cars last 12 months I use it on fleet vehicle like work vans that are white so that the occasional high spot blends in the coating is a real sleeper
If you can get a solid year out of these products on a daily driver (in terms of water repellency and easy brake dust cleaning properties), then and only then would they be worth it to me. Otherwise, I'll just stick you using a product like turtle wax seal n shine which has held up great so far after 45 days ( spray on wipe off)
I was really happy with kamikaze Stance Rim Coat 2.0 from a performance point of view and particularly working time when applying to more detailed intricate wheels. The new 3.0 version now with graphine has a much shorter working time making it very difficult to complete a whole wheel easily
As an amateur detailer the best for me would be easiest to apply. If I'm looking for water repelancy I can always apply something else on top during a regular clean, same for bodywork.
Bought the Gyeon based off your review. Previously tried the Gtechniq C5 before. After two coats on my 20” truck wheels, inside and out, I still had over half a bottle left of the Gyeon, and I was pretty generous with it. The C5 costs more per mL but I feel is the better size if you are going to do one set of wheels.
With graphene coatings starting to appear from various manufacturers, which is great. Early days with graphene (1st gen products) but it sounds and looks promising. I would say the best product for wheels would be ceramic coatings. Makes cleaning wheels so much easier, quicker and better. Tried wheel wax, but it's a waste of time and money, don't work at all. Could you try some graphene products on wheels to see how they compare to these ceramic coatings for wheels. I hate cleaning my wheels. Back breaking and not as pleasing as cleaning the body of the car. Just a pain in the butt. Is ceramic coating going the way of DVDs? New car detailing products, new processes. Great time to be a car detailer. Great video as usual by the way.👏👏
thanks buddy we will do more on graphene, but typically the graphene is just something in a product, you have water based dispersions you can add to water based products and you have butyl based dispersions you can add to coatings.
Gyeon Rim for me, once a year wheels off decontaminate , machine polish, gyeon prep and apply Gyeon Rim I find wait until it goes rainbow like in colour and that's the best time to wipe off.
I've read alot of comments over the years at C5 is the same as the C1-C4 range of products just in different concentrations, and that EXO + CSL on alloys the same as paintwork is just as durable.
I've been using the angelwax enigma legacy wheel coating for the last half year now on my summer wheels. Have held up good with its hydrophobic qualities over this period. Got 30ml for 67 Euro, and i've been able to coat two sets of wheels and there's still some left, so could have applied some on my calipers as well if they were painted. This was my first wheel coating and it was super easy to apply and buff off. No sticky residue.. The real test will now be in the Scandinavian winter, and i'll have to see how it holds up with all the salt and brine.
Another great comparison Jon. Thanks for continuing to produce this type of content. I know a lot of time, effort and cost go into these comparison vids.
@@ForensicDetailingc5 is utter garbage. One of the worst I’ve ever used . Overrated overhyped waste of money. If you want a PROPER durable wheel coating KKD r evolve pisses over all those you were testing
Very good test, thanks again. I do have Nanolex SI3D applied maybe 2018 in my winter E46 wheels. Still alive, easy to wash. I wash car once per week in wintertime.
Crazy how some coatings and sealants endive water sheeting and others do water beading. I have mixed emotions, water sheeting makes sense to me to get as much off to prevent water spots, but the beading is so pleasant to look at. I have used gtechniq CSL and exo V4 on my GL550. Have not used any too coats and it has been on the car almost a year and the coating just acts like I just did it. I have a short on my channel but I love the gtechniq and will purchase that again in the future.
Hi John, had a go for the first time at ceramic coating my new alloys yesterday using the GTech wheel armour. It was very easy to apply, very smooth and easy to buff off, so will bne interesting to see how they perform. Graet video
I used the coating that I put on my car Gtechniq CSl topped with EXO. I would like to wheels done with regular coatings used on the car. Thanks for another great review showdown John.
Really appreciate the work you put into this video. You've convinced me to stick with CarPro. I've had enough experience with their CQuartz UK 3.0 and I do get the "sticky" bit.
I have used 3 out of the 4 you tested. Having seen Jim of White Details use the Carbon Collective product, I have used it now on several sets of wheels and as far as I am concerned, it ( subjectively) beats the other 2 I’ve used (C5 & Gyeon Rim) in every aspect you’ve tested. However, as recommended, I have always applied TWO coats
One thing to consider is that DLUX serves a dual purpose as a wheel and trim coating. I could just buy this one for two features. Overall I agree that DLUX is more durable than Gyeon Rim and Gtechniq C5.
Great video because it shows an aspect I always bang about: stuff that is easier to apply than other stuff mostly won’t be as good in other areas like resistancy, hydrophobics or durability. There’s an inherent trade-off between product aspects in all detailing products. What I would have loved to hear from you is your critical opinion if dedicated wheel coatings actually make sense, especially the claim that they are more heat resistant than regular coatings. Spoiler alert: I think it‘s absolute nonsense.
I dont actually debait the heat resistence claims and I think its important to have this feature. I have the SDS for the raw silane used in a lot of these coatings and this raw material is resistence to temps upto 750deg. A paste wax will typically melt at 60-75 deg and you can actually feel paste waxes melting and going sticky on car panels in the hot summers. A paste wax will melt in car barrel very rapidly. the big debait for me, is it actually worth protecting alloys? I think ceramic coatings are the best we have.. But im just not sure if its worth coating alloys, against just a yearly strip down and decon and maybe squirting some wet coat or something in there. Or literally the most important thing could be to really clean them regulary, coating or no coating perhaps. The problem is we all get lazy and sometimes the cars go months without being cleaned.. maybe coatings help in this scenario?? I honestly dont know the answer but I tend to go with wheel coatings, I also do get some enjoyment from installing them.
@@ForensicDetailing completely agree! And I wasn't hinting at the debate of coating vs. wax in regards to heat resistance, but much rather at the question whether dediacted wheel coatings are really necessary as ANY ceramic coating is heat resistant enough to withstand the heat from wheels. I think that 90% of coatings on today's market are heat resistant to a point where your wheels would start to melt before the coating fails. That maybe would be an interesting point for one of your next track days to measure the temperature of your wheels after track use as that's probably the most heat that any wheel will ever have to face. With your other points, I completely agree. The main issue with wheels is the kind of dirt that they face as it's the most aggressive dirt there is - brake dust, iron fallout, road grime, strong mechanical influences. That's why I completely agree that only a ceramic coating makes sense as waxes will definately not be able to cope with those kind of influecnes. But then, as you say, I also think that just regularly cleaning and quickly protect them with WetCoat or something similar and then do a yearly decon is probably also a viable strategy. Ceramic coatings help in a way that they make cleaning wheels regularly easier. But if you don't do that, they are useless and you're better off with a yearly decon in my opinion.
@@AndreasSchwarzinger ah sorry yes I see what you mean, this could be a good video. Im of the opinion any decent high quality reasonably high solids ceramic coating could make a good wheel coating.
@@ForensicDetailing exactly, that's what I think. Because if a respectible brand like Nanolex doesn't offer a dedicated wheel coating, that should tell something. ;)
I ended getting some if that carpro DLUX stuff from our friends at slims detailing. Got it cheaper from them as they know me so basically beats the value for money and tops the list for me 😁. Used it on some 17 inch wheels I got and hopefully it's on there and not wiped off accidentally
Gyeon Rim for me on my white track wheels. It seems to hold up ok to the heat but does have a noticeable drop off in hydrophobic properties after a track day. I think the Carpro Dlux should have won the value for money test, considering it is also a plastic trim coating, making it a 2in1 product, whereas all the others are a dedicated wheel coating only. So you are effectively saving half the money again without having to buy a separate trim coating.
hmm possibly but mate you can use these other ones on plastic as well even if they dont state it. But yer good point because you will have lots of left overs wont you so its great to be able to stick it plastic.
Hey John have u tried the Angelwax Wheel & Caliper? I don't normally get excited about new ceramic based products much anymore. After 23 years of working in this industry it's hard to excite me or wow me much anymore. Well the new AW ceramic coating line is a stellar creation by John Hogg! He's found a way to completely upend the way we currently judge coating hardness and potential durability by looking at the active solid percentage versus binding resins/solvents content. So a 90% concentration product is usually hard er to work with but thicker, glossier, and more durable. Take tac systems climax and IGL Kenzo Certified only coating systems both are two part systems and claiming to be 100% active material. But Angelwax Genesis the certified only AW coating is in my opinion drys harder, more gloss, easier to work with, way cheaper, and a huge time saver being that it's a one part coating instead of thr typical inorganic base coat and the organic top coat like the other products. Because John has found a way to reduce the amount of solids needed to get the same results. At 75% active material that's leaves room for more advanced binders and other supporting materials. This goes for the wheel and caliper coating and thr prosumer Legacy coating both stellar I would bet my business and reputation on this new AW coating line as being liked by a majority of thr people that try them. Sorry to ramble thanks for thr video John. I'll be joining u on patron today too. Cheers
jon is a legend and AW are a smoking hot brand. I need to try the caliper product. In fact I need to like update myself with all things Angelwax been so busy its hard to keep up with it all.
I love Gyeon Rim, I used it on all my rims, super easy to use and great value for money. Interestingly, I read C5 and Platinum wheels are one and the same product?? Hmmm...
Most alloy wheels have a clear coating on the outside of their wheels, the inner part of the wheel is also either coated or painted and then coated, so if the alloy wheel is just that and no clear is visible then you can call the coating working for those type of wheels, but i have alloy wheels and they are painted black and clear coated as well so any SIO2 based sealant will keep them easier to clean, like meguiars blue bottle or even better and easier use the new green bottle sio2 based edetaler as you do the car do the wheels and they do make it easier to wash and keep clean, especially if you use a iron remover for wheels etc. :) Try to seal or protect a polished alloy or chrome type or looking alloys wheels, once they are polished to a mirror then protect them so far i have not seen anything on the market which will make it easy to protect chrome or polished alloy wheels other than washing them and then polishing them all over again?? Transport truck have chrome wheels and i believe there's a commercial cleaning soap/shampoo for chrome or stainless steel polished which washes it and polishes it at the same time just snow job it and then rinse it, it comes in a purple bottle not sure what its called but perfect for polished alloy wheels IMHO. :)
well with this one i finally get the qrim2, i tested cancoat like 2 layers on my powder coated wheels, very good try for the last half year going to do a bike prep and dript in cancoat and qrim hehe 😎👀
I'm not to bothered about how hydrophobic the product is,I'm more interested on how good it is at keeping brake dust,etc from sticking to the alloy,I've personally been using platinum wheels solely because they advertise it lasts up to 2yrs
Carpro dlux, a touch harder to apply you say but im not bothered, I just want the longest lasting and best looking protection and price point doesn't come into it when it's such a small difference.
I sold my c5 because it’s been sitting around for a few years unused and saw your video and started to regret it but at the end I didn’t feel too bad seeing your results 🤣
great test, and the same as mine opinion. My go to is dlux, because the price, durability, and I can use it on plastic and it works great there as well. I am on my second season on the application on dlux on my summer wheels. after a total dcon, its back to like new. Gyeon is a bit pricy in my country. But have tried carbon collective, max protect v1 and v3 and dlux. And over all dlux is one of my favourite products. Wait 15 min next time before levelling/buffing :)
hey gary, You should pick a coating for matt finishes. Gyeon have a "Matte" coating i think. might even by like gyeon rim Matte version. but yer these coatings will add some gloss so use a matte coating.
I used Gyeon Rim on a set of O.Z matte grey wheels and in my opinion it did not alter the finish of the matte finish at all just enhanced it and darkened the finish. The resistance to brake dust was fantastic and I maintained them with Gyeon Cure Matte Weekly. I only used one layer and I was very happy with the result 👍🏻 As Jon has mentioned they also make their matte specific coating Gyeon matte which is more expensive and not as temperature resistant.
Very enjoyable video Jon & I suspected Gyeon would come out on top. My own preference for wheel coating would be KKD Revolve. It's not the easiest to use & can be sticky to remove but the look improvement plus the hydrophobicity/ease of cleaning ability of it is fantastic. I have just passed the 12 month point on my own alloys & the coating is still going extremely well. Calipers are also still repelling water/dirt & effortless to clean.
Really helped in my selection of product, being a newbie to detailing I’m opting for the C5 G-Tec on the basis of ease of application and then beyond that the other positives this product brings, it would be good for the company to cover re-application... my wheels will be newly refurbed so whist off the car is there a benefit to layering?
Great video and great work! How many wheels can you coat with one bottle? And if you don't use it all, how long can the half full bottle stay on the shelf before it goes bad?
a 15 ml bottle will do 4-8 wheels closer to 4 really unless you go mega sort of tight mode. I have used coatings like 2 years later after opening them and they work. but most brands say discard after 3-6 months of opening.
Another nice video Jon. Here in Canada carpro and gyeon are the same price - well like 2 canadian dollars difference lol - but you can use dlux on trim. So dlux is clearly more value for the money here.
Well, yes I do agree that the price is 2,5 times as much... But the title says "The Best Ceramic Coating for Alloy Wheels".. So why not include all price ranges? Then we can also see how good the "cheap" ones compare.
It is the best. There’s a cost to have ease of use, looks, and durability. I’ve used Gtechniq, Gyeon Rim, Ceramic Pro, 22PLE and about to try Carpro. So far nothing touches Kamikaze and if I’m doing a more budget friendly detail, Gyeon Rim.
Great video John. Not used any wheel ceramics as yet, but for me it'll be how easily it makes for cleaning wks or month's down the line. Ps only ceramic coating ive used is carbon collective glass coating.
This is perfect timing for me Jon! I'm about to prep my wheels for harsh Scottish winter and have bought Gtechniq C5. Can you put a coat of polish on the wheels before coating them?
what do you mean by polish? whatever you use beforehand on the wheels, IPA wipedown them before coating, you want a bare surface before coating so it bonds correctly.
I think Modesta is probably one of the absolute best in my opinion. But its pro application only. P.s. I dont think your tests are biased. Now if Bilt Hamber made a ceramic wheel coating.......... lol
hi, just a quick note IMHO not one company who makes any SIO2 based sealants or graphene based or any other nana hybrid sealants have been tested by a ASTM number or SAE testing for paint sealants even the aircraft industry manufacturers do not have one for the OEM paints used to paint aircrafts by boeing Airbus and others, permaguard product is used by some of these manufactures or should i say companies who have brought planes for commercial use and they say that for the first 12 months of permaguard used on the OEM painted surfaces of those aircraft they will pay for a complete re spray of that aircraft if there's any problems with the paint which was coated, but the warranty issues that the OEM painted surfaces from these companies and what may happen is like life insurance people pay for years and nothing ever happens based on what the insurance policy will cove for you its always something you get and your insurance will not cover it, so till theres a ASTM standard applied to all car care/ detailing products and the claims they make then i will totaly believe it, they have it for oils and other maintenance products used for cars and serviable items, but not for the painted or plastic surfaces at all? dont get me wrong the products on the market now and what you can achieve as far as low cost maintenance to keep the paint clean compared to say 30 years ago is totaly amazing, but only if you have a car which is going to make you money in the long run or you just like to look after your car and just want to make life a little easier to wash and protect its value with in 3 to 5 years full stop?
I think ceramic coatings are the real deal. The one thing thats not consistent is the product claims. Some brands put out fantastically honest information on what these products really do, some spread mis-information and use marketting tricks to mis-represent what the products can do.. (flamethrowers on the paintwork etc)
Great video and very nicely done, I bought a set of custom built wheels last season and ended up going with Gyeon Rim, I agree 100% on better instructions on what materials these ceramics can be applied to. After reading Gyeons instructions I decided not to coat the raw aluminum lip of my wheels and ended up going with a wheel wax instead, only applying Gyeon to the barrel and face of the wheels. (powder coated surfaces) After watching your video I want to ask and confirm if these products can actually be applied to raw metal surfaces? In particular polished raw aluminum. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
Kamikaze stance rim has been my go to. I’ve used C5, Gyeon, 22PLE, Ceramic Pro, but none touch the Kamikaze. I use Gyeon Rim for more cost saving projects, but when it’s my personal vehicle or a “do the best” project, Stance Rim. It’s easy to use, a little goes a long way, easy to remove, feels super slick. 1 or 2 layers will get you 12-24 months depending on how it’s cared for, but I’ve personally seen 18 months from 2 layers on a vehicle that doesn’t get the best care, it gets washed occasionally and dried with a leaf blower, and it’s held up. I’ve also seen about 18 months on a truck used for farm work. Every few months it came to me for “maintenance” to help keep the coatings at their best. Polish Angel Supersport is a great spray and wipe stand alone sealant or maintenance for coated rims. Same with paint coatings. When someone says “the best” I use Kamikaze, for more budget oriented jobs Gyeon or Cquartz UK.
Great video Jon, as always, and the reviews are always as honest as you can be. But..I'm struggling to find the 'need' to purchase ceramic wheel coatings. My alloys have been recently refurbished, but they are cleaned weekly to 2 weekly, without fail. I use premium products, mostly from GT Therapy and BH, and they never fight me, to get them looking tidy, once more. Plus...having the time available, and clearing a space in the garage, to apply the product, is not an easy task either. Are these products really that good, which make wheel cleaning THAT easy, that it's worth the time, effort and outlay...
Hello, great video, full of informations, like others your videos :) can i ask a question? can i use the microfibre after apply this coatings? i mean for cleaning rims, not polish or wax buff, thanks for answer and have a great day :)
yes mate so perhaps after using a microfiber on coatings relegate it like engine bay cleaning, treat it like a rag. but perhaps dont buff on your paintwork with it (some do though)/
I just clean my wheels then apply CarPro HydrO2 Lite for a very thin version of a ceramic coating! Can't knock how easy it is to spray on, spray off and watch the wheels go instantly hydrophobic.
Hi Jon, just wondered if this video before selling the red peril, just wondered if you missed it, as you know Ive went old school and I can honestly say I dont miss her at all and loving the new project.
@@ForensicDetailing I love BMWs Estirol Blue not sure their is a better car colour and a fair few carmakers have tried to copy it but their is just something special about BMWs colour, I did originally think you would have been more inclined to restore that one rather than the E36 but their are merits for both cars. Keep up the great work bud, and I hope more watchers will become Patrons
@@Zenyettamondatta thanks Dave, yer I want to shoot a video on the difference between the E36 and the E46. I love them both but theres some pros and cons.
Hi Jon, I coated my wheels with C5 two months ago. Excellent results but don’t know whether to use BH autowheel at 1:1 every few weeks or just keep using autowash? Do I even need to use fallout on em? Thanks 👍
I personally prefer IGL Wheel. Its extremely user friendly, great overall performance, and has a durability rating of 12+ months. As with all IGL products they under promise and over deliver.
A few sprays of a spray & rinse sealant lasts a while and is super easy to reapply. Perfect if you're lazy.
Completely agree. There are, imo, just two ways to seal wheels: quick and dirty after every wash with something durable (Sonax BSD, ADBL Synthetic Spray Wax, Gyeon Wet Coat), or the full ceramic way. Everything in between and especially wheel waxes don‘t really make any sense.
Personally I don't think they hold up between washes & I've tried many. Nor do they offer the same ease of cleaning as coatings. They are better than nothing but I would use them more as a topper on top of a ceramic coating on the wheels as opposed to a dedicated wheel sealant that for me they simply can't do.
I have used C5 and DLux on the same vehicle. I agree that C5 is easier to work with. After 18 months, I would say both perform similarly and still allow the dirt to come off with a simple pressure washer.
The long term tests are worth the wait for me. I enjoy them and appreciate the time you invest into bringing us the content. Keep it up and I’ll keep watching! Thanks.
One of my cars is fully coated in Carbon Collective, it has Platinum and Oracle layered on the paint. Instead off buying another coating for wheels I just layered Platinum and Oracle on the wheels too
We need Bilt Hamber Laboratories to come up with a ceramic product for alloys as well as Koch Chemie. They would be very big.
Totally agree Owen. Surfex and Auto Foam are just superb!
@@D992 Couldn't agree more
Yep good point, Surfex and Korrosol, Wheel cleaner are my go to items, best in those categories for me.
Pro tip : you can watch movies on Flixzone. Been using them for watching a lot of movies these days.
@Shepard Anders Yup, have been using Flixzone} for months myself =)
I just love to put fusso on my daily car wheels - fusso is strong enough to survive summer or winter season. Cleaning the wheels is so easy it's almost unbelievable.
I do exactly the same. I have used C5 on a couple of cars and it is a better solution than fusso. But not enough to warrant the extra cost.
Fusso the Japanese one ?
@@josephjoestar5444 yes
Has to be said I'd like to see KKD R-Evolve tested against the rest, as others have said it seems to be one of the most recommended when viewed on detailing forums and groups
Now we're talking, some back to back tests 👍🏻
I know I’ve already commented, but it’s really interesting reading the comments. Obviously this test was of 4 of the big selling wheel coatings, so a lot of people who have coated their wheels will, most likely, have used one or more of these products. However, there are more than 4 coatings out there to choose from. Particularly, if you’re in the UK, you have an excellent option. It’s like everybody’s arguing over the best burger at McDonalds but not even thinking about trying the fillet steak!
What would you recommend in the UK other than the 4 in this vid?
@@owenwishon9675 KKD R-Evolve. It is probably double the durability of those 4, if not more! The best part is that it costs £35 for 30ml so it isn’t even more expensive. I am not exaggerating those claims either, it’s durability is crazy. That is the fillet steak.
I have the Gtechniq C5 on my wheels. Gtechniq say it's good for 2 years and 20 months in I still get beading on the wheels when they are clean. The car is a daily, regularly washed. I use Autoglym Magma every few washes and just car wash soap and a wheel wand to clean them. So far so good.
Really appreciate your effort in the longevity of these testings! Fantastic review. I've honestly never bought a wheel coating. I just use the leftover of the paint coating.
Another good one Jon.
I’ve used Rim, C5 and Platinum, I’m sticking with C5 because it’s by far the easiest to apply. In my experience since none of them last much more than a year or 10k miles, reapplying regularly is the way to go.
Off to set up a Patreon for you mate, I’ve learned loads from your channel over the last few years 👍🏻
thank you sir much appreciated.
Are you still using C5?
I just installed gtechniq c5 on my wheels. Thanks for your video, my first instinct was Gyeon, but I really wanted an easy install, you saved me 😅
This will be my first step into ceramic thanks for the head up on products
Honestly surprised with the results. I’ve had Platinum Wheels (two coats) on my wheels for almost a year, and the durability and water behaviour is just as good as when I put it on.
Would agree that it’s a delight to use.
I don’t understand why PW and C5 don’t have hydrophobic behaviour and seem like sheeting instead was this what they was looking for? I sometimes think when I wax the car these little tiny bubbles of rain water will dry into water spots and would be better if it all sheeted off if that makes sense
that can happen. In fact no protection or true hydrophillic protection helps with this. people tend to think sheeting = hydrophillic when it does not. plus when I show a product with poor hydrophobic performance people think the product sucks even if its just using a material thats not hydrophobic. without hydrophobicity all detailing products fall all under the emperors new clothes catagory. there is nothing you can actually measure to determine performance. so you have to take a leap of faith.. people wont take leaps of faith, they favour things they can observe.
SilverBack that’s why, in some cases, a ceramic isn’t as good as regular wax- water spotting can be a big issue when the water doesn’t sheet off.
@@ForensicDetailing yeah your right and that makes sense , I prefer sheeting that way there less sitting on the paintwork , seeing little water bubbles on waxed surface looking nice for awhile until it stop raining and i am tempted to use a drying cloth or the water blower or else it will remain there until I drive 🤦🏾♂️
Great video, thank you. I’ve also found Dlux difficult to apply and have spent hours polishing off hotspots. C5 I’ve used in the past and was much easier to apply.
Hi Jon, I applied C5 nearly two years ago and I have cleaned and added a QD on a regular basis and am delighted with the performance. When I get round to removing the wheels & reapplying a coating I will probably go with C5 again as it has given everything it promised
thank you mate. its a good product for sure tried and tested.
How did it compare with hades?
@@jamietaylor3075 application and appearance same but difficult to compare performance as I have only had Hades of for about 9 months. I will say however that C5 lasted over two years and I could have left it longer. Its worth saying though that I look after my wheels so not sure if you would get that performance on a set of wheels that didn't get the care that mine do
The cars get washed at least every two weeks to an obsessive standard , I'll try the c5 first.cheers
@@jamietaylor3075 you won’t be disappointed
I've applied my Gyeon rims ceramic... we will see how it stands after the winter. Product went on very smoothly, and removal was a breeze.
never tried these but i will,at the moment i wash in bathe plus then cover in gyeon wet coat and the look spot on and wash very easy,great vid
C5 has been a real pleasure to work with, saves so much time on cleaning.
For a long time the Gtechniq was considered to be the go to so I’m surprised on the results. Will definitely be trying out the Gyeon next time!
I still believe the Gtechniq is the go to despite the results. If you are looking for a hydrophobic coating then this is a great comparison. If you are looking for a coating to keep brake dust from eating in, is highly durable in that environment, and does what a wheel coating should then it’s the go to.
And that’s not saying John’s test is wrong, far from it. It’s just different people want different things. For me my car is first and foremost a drivers car. It spends more time on track than it does as a show car. So as John said a hydrophobic coating might not be best as it’s pushed the water off before it has chance to release the brake dust. I tried Rim and it was far less repellent to sticking brake dust so went back to C5.
@@altypeRR thanks for this. Exactly what I needed to know 👍
Matches my experiences. Gyeon Rim is super super good. Something I can't say about the rest of the Gyeon ceramic coatings.
thank you finally i was looking for something like this. your honest review influenced my purchase , i appreciate it. love from the US!
I have used 2 bottles of Gyeon Rim the last two years or so, and I am very satisfied with it. Was tempting to use Gtechniq C5, but I will stick to my old trustworthy Gyeon Rim for sure :) thanks for the very nice video as always
How long are you getting from gyeon rim Kristoffer?
@@Tops1212 - for the summer wheels, easily 2 summers (early April to late October) - I do not use harsh chemicals at all (not needed). I would guess 20000km perhaps? Not entirely sure.
Are you still using Rim?
@@matsudakodo , yeah - still working great.
Bought the Gteqniq a year ago and still haven't got round to doing it yet. I had no idea what I was buying but reviews seemed good. Whilst the results might be the "best" of those tested here I'm no longer scared of trying what appears an easy to apply ceramic, to get some experience before I look into one for the rest of the car. I had them powdercoated and believe they were also clearcoated so looks like I got the one was right for me at least. Thanks Jon!
Great video Jon, I admire hugely the approach to have a taken to purchase these items yourself in order to provide a balanced review. I hope people realise this and support you by becoming a patron. You need to be supported so we can all be informed, keep up the fantastic work.
appreciate it Mark. I need to up my game as well and think of ways to make it appealing and grow the community its coming on leaps and bounds though. Thanks mate for signing up.
@@ForensicDetailingall those wheel coatings are trash & dated . Use KKD revolve x which is far more durable on those crap you reviewed especially the shocking bad gtechniq c4
John kisho from Japan $8 for it has tested very well here in US the wheel coating has been more durable than Dlux they designed it to be applied but not wiped off it self levels it been I have it all over in fridge, grill, toilet ect also there 1 paint coating 901 is a beast the guy from Texas had it last 2 years in one of his 30 coating test video. Only downside is hard to apply it’s also ok to use damp applicator like modesta to apply. I think 901 cost $11 but it’s difficult it’s sio2 with fluorine additives in the coating. They have other coatings and toppers really decent company. I’ve applied 901 to about 15 cars last 12 months I use it on fleet vehicle like work vans that are white so that the occasional high spot blends in the coating is a real sleeper
If you can get a solid year out of these products on a daily driver (in terms of water repellency and easy brake dust cleaning properties), then and only then would they be worth it to me. Otherwise, I'll just stick you using a product like turtle wax seal n shine which has held up great so far after 45 days ( spray on wipe off)
I've only ever used the GTechnic C5 and have found it excellent for me. I may try the Gyeon one next time.
I was really happy with kamikaze Stance Rim Coat 2.0 from a performance point of view and particularly working time when applying to more detailed intricate wheels. The new 3.0 version now with graphine has a much shorter working time making it very difficult to complete a whole wheel easily
Brilliant video Jon, try kkd wheel coating, it's excellent, a perm coating if you don't buff off
As an amateur detailer the best for me would be easiest to apply. If I'm looking for water repelancy I can always apply something else on top during a regular clean, same for bodywork.
Bought the Gyeon based off your review. Previously tried the Gtechniq C5 before. After two coats on my 20” truck wheels, inside and out, I still had over half a bottle left of the Gyeon, and I was pretty generous with it. The C5 costs more per mL but I feel is the better size if you are going to do one set of wheels.
With graphene coatings starting to appear from various manufacturers, which is great. Early days with graphene (1st gen products) but it sounds and looks promising. I would say the best product for wheels would be ceramic coatings. Makes cleaning wheels so much easier, quicker and better. Tried wheel wax, but it's a waste of time and money, don't work at all. Could you try some graphene products on wheels to see how they compare to these ceramic coatings for wheels. I hate cleaning my wheels. Back breaking and not as pleasing as cleaning the body of the car. Just a pain in the butt. Is ceramic coating going the way of DVDs? New car detailing products, new processes. Great time to be a car detailer. Great video as usual by the way.👏👏
thanks buddy we will do more on graphene, but typically the graphene is just something in a product, you have water based dispersions you can add to water based products and you have butyl based dispersions you can add to coatings.
I will stick with the gtechniq as in my opinion it is worth the premium. I’ve used it for years and it’s long lasting and works superbly.
Quartz Magic Plus 60% and ANGELWAX ENIGMA LEGACY WHEEL & CALIPER COATING are easy to apply
and has good durability
Gyeon Rim for me, once a year wheels off decontaminate , machine polish, gyeon prep and apply Gyeon Rim I find wait until it goes rainbow like in colour and that's the best time to wipe off.
Would have loved to see breaks dust resistance. Thanks for the video. :)
I've read alot of comments over the years at C5 is the same as the C1-C4 range of products just in different concentrations, and that EXO + CSL on alloys the same as paintwork is just as durable.
I've been using the angelwax enigma legacy wheel coating for the last half year now on my summer wheels. Have held up good with its hydrophobic qualities over this period. Got 30ml for 67 Euro, and i've been able to coat two sets of wheels and there's still some left, so could have applied some on my calipers as well if they were painted. This was my first wheel coating and it was super easy to apply and buff off. No sticky residue.. The real test will now be in the Scandinavian winter, and i'll have to see how it holds up with all the salt and brine.
Be interested to hear more about carbon collective, no one seems to say much about them or review it, but they have a big following.
its one of these companies that has real on point branding and thats really important. lots of potential there.
Another great comparison Jon. Thanks for continuing to produce this type of content. I know a lot of time, effort and cost go into these comparison vids.
Your an top man Conor thank you for supporting me.
@@ForensicDetailingc5 is utter garbage. One of the worst I’ve ever used . Overrated overhyped waste of money. If you want a PROPER durable wheel coating KKD r evolve pisses over all those you were testing
Very good test, thanks again.
I do have Nanolex SI3D applied maybe 2018 in my winter E46 wheels. Still alive, easy to wash.
I wash car once per week in wintertime.
Difficult to get all the brand's in this test fully appreciate the effort, but was hoping for the tac systems magic trim and alloy ceramic coating.
KKD R-evolve on my wheels John, very sticky when applied but once dry it is very good.
Crazy how some coatings and sealants endive water sheeting and others do water beading. I have mixed emotions, water sheeting makes sense to me to get as much off to prevent water spots, but the beading is so pleasant to look at. I have used gtechniq CSL and exo V4 on my GL550. Have not used any too coats and it has been on the car almost a year and the coating just acts like I just did it. I have a short on my channel but I love the gtechniq and will purchase that again in the future.
Hi John, had a go for the first time at ceramic coating my new alloys yesterday using the GTech wheel armour. It was very easy to apply, very smooth and easy to buff off, so will bne interesting to see how they perform. Graet video
Hi, how did you find the durability of the wheel armour? Have you tried any other brands since? Thanks
I used the coating that I put on my car Gtechniq CSl topped with EXO. I would like to wheels done with regular coatings used on the car. Thanks for another great review showdown John.
Really appreciate the work you put into this video. You've convinced me to stick with CarPro. I've had enough experience with their CQuartz UK 3.0 and I do get the "sticky" bit.
I have used 3 out of the 4 you tested. Having seen Jim of White Details use the Carbon Collective product, I have used it now on several sets of wheels and as far as I am concerned, it ( subjectively) beats the other 2 I’ve used (C5 & Gyeon Rim) in every aspect you’ve tested. However, as recommended, I have always applied TWO coats
Thank you for the honest review! Loved the format! I'd rather watch your videos then any netflix show
I'd rather have you watching than being in on Netflix! 😁
One thing to consider is that DLUX serves a dual purpose as a wheel and trim coating. I could just buy this one for two features. Overall I agree that DLUX is more durable than Gyeon Rim and Gtechniq C5.
Great video because it shows an aspect I always bang about: stuff that is easier to apply than other stuff mostly won’t be as good in other areas like resistancy, hydrophobics or durability. There’s an inherent trade-off between product aspects in all detailing products.
What I would have loved to hear from you is your critical opinion if dedicated wheel coatings actually make sense, especially the claim that they are more heat resistant than regular coatings. Spoiler alert: I think it‘s absolute nonsense.
I dont actually debait the heat resistence claims and I think its important to have this feature. I have the SDS for the raw silane used in a lot of these coatings and this raw material is resistence to temps upto 750deg. A paste wax will typically melt at 60-75 deg and you can actually feel paste waxes melting and going sticky on car panels in the hot summers. A paste wax will melt in car barrel very rapidly.
the big debait for me, is it actually worth protecting alloys? I think ceramic coatings are the best we have.. But im just not sure if its worth coating alloys, against just a yearly strip down and decon and maybe squirting some wet coat or something in there. Or literally the most important thing could be to really clean them regulary, coating or no coating perhaps. The problem is we all get lazy and sometimes the cars go months without being cleaned.. maybe coatings help in this scenario?? I honestly dont know the answer but I tend to go with wheel coatings, I also do get some enjoyment from installing them.
@@ForensicDetailing completely agree! And I wasn't hinting at the debate of coating vs. wax in regards to heat resistance, but much rather at the question whether dediacted wheel coatings are really necessary as ANY ceramic coating is heat resistant enough to withstand the heat from wheels. I think that 90% of coatings on today's market are heat resistant to a point where your wheels would start to melt before the coating fails. That maybe would be an interesting point for one of your next track days to measure the temperature of your wheels after track use as that's probably the most heat that any wheel will ever have to face.
With your other points, I completely agree. The main issue with wheels is the kind of dirt that they face as it's the most aggressive dirt there is - brake dust, iron fallout, road grime, strong mechanical influences. That's why I completely agree that only a ceramic coating makes sense as waxes will definately not be able to cope with those kind of influecnes. But then, as you say, I also think that just regularly cleaning and quickly protect them with WetCoat or something similar and then do a yearly decon is probably also a viable strategy.
Ceramic coatings help in a way that they make cleaning wheels regularly easier. But if you don't do that, they are useless and you're better off with a yearly decon in my opinion.
@@AndreasSchwarzinger ah sorry yes I see what you mean, this could be a good video. Im of the opinion any decent high quality reasonably high solids ceramic coating could make a good wheel coating.
@@ForensicDetailing exactly, that's what I think. Because if a respectible brand like Nanolex doesn't offer a dedicated wheel coating, that should tell something. ;)
I ended getting some if that carpro DLUX stuff from our friends at slims detailing. Got it cheaper from them as they know me so basically beats the value for money and tops the list for me 😁. Used it on some 17 inch wheels I got and hopefully it's on there and not wiped off accidentally
Gyeon Rim for me on my white track wheels. It seems to hold up ok to the heat but does have a noticeable drop off in hydrophobic properties after a track day.
I think the Carpro Dlux should have won the value for money test, considering it is also a plastic trim coating, making it a 2in1 product, whereas all the others are a dedicated wheel coating only. So you are effectively saving half the money again without having to buy a separate trim coating.
hmm possibly but mate you can use these other ones on plastic as well even if they dont state it. But yer good point because you will have lots of left overs wont you so its great to be able to stick it plastic.
Hey John have u tried the Angelwax Wheel & Caliper? I don't normally get excited about new ceramic based products much anymore. After 23 years of working in this industry it's hard to excite me or wow me much anymore. Well the new AW ceramic coating line is a stellar creation by John Hogg! He's found a way to completely upend the way we currently judge coating hardness and potential durability by looking at the active solid percentage versus binding resins/solvents content. So a 90% concentration product is usually hard er to work with but thicker, glossier, and more durable. Take tac systems climax and IGL Kenzo Certified only coating systems both are two part systems and claiming to be 100% active material. But Angelwax Genesis the certified only AW coating is in my opinion drys harder, more gloss, easier to work with, way cheaper, and a huge time saver being that it's a one part coating instead of thr typical inorganic base coat and the organic top coat like the other products. Because John has found a way to reduce the amount of solids needed to get the same results. At 75% active material that's leaves room for more advanced binders and other supporting materials. This goes for the wheel and caliper coating and thr prosumer Legacy coating both stellar I would bet my business and reputation on this new AW coating line as being liked by a majority of thr people that try them. Sorry to ramble thanks for thr video John. I'll be joining u on patron today too. Cheers
jon is a legend and AW are a smoking hot brand. I need to try the caliper product. In fact I need to like update myself with all things Angelwax been so busy its hard to keep up with it all.
I love Gyeon Rim, I used it on all my rims, super easy to use and great value for money. Interestingly, I read C5 and Platinum wheels are one and the same product?? Hmmm...
You will probably find just a few companies do all the manufacturing for the majority of detailing brands.
Most alloy wheels have a clear coating on the outside of their wheels, the inner part of the wheel is also either coated or painted and then coated, so if the alloy wheel is just that and no clear is visible then you can call the coating working for those type of wheels, but i have alloy wheels and they are painted black and clear coated as well so any SIO2 based sealant will keep them easier to clean, like meguiars blue bottle or even better and easier use the new green bottle sio2 based edetaler as you do the car do the wheels and they do make it easier to wash and keep clean, especially if you use a iron remover for wheels etc. :)
Try to seal or protect a polished alloy or chrome type or looking alloys wheels, once they are polished to a mirror then protect them so far i have not seen anything on the market which will make it easy to protect chrome or polished alloy wheels other than washing them and then polishing them all over again?? Transport truck have chrome wheels and i believe there's a commercial cleaning soap/shampoo for chrome or stainless steel polished which washes it and polishes it at the same time just snow job it and then rinse it, it comes in a purple bottle not sure what its called but perfect for polished alloy wheels IMHO. :)
I use moonlight on my wheels because they are polished aluminum. It’s probably not as durable as the others but my car also never sees rain or snow.
I use tac systems quartz magic plus, so easy to apply you can use it in plastics etc as well and it lasted 2yrs on my st wheel with weekly washes
Bought a lot of what you've recommended and it's has always been good, thanks for good informed reviews.
Thx to you to john
On personal experience, Carbon Collective over Carpro simply down to ease of use
Dlux.... can be used for plastic trim also... so its versitile :)
Use this on all my carbon bits on my M6, but as Jon said its sticky
well with this one i finally get the qrim2,
i tested cancoat like 2 layers on my powder coated wheels,
very good try for the last half year
going to do a bike prep and dript in cancoat and qrim hehe 😎👀
I'm not to bothered about how hydrophobic the product is,I'm more interested on how good it is at keeping brake dust,etc from sticking to the alloy,I've personally been using platinum wheels solely because they advertise it lasts up to 2yrs
Excellent comparison review as usual
All of mine have Britemax Igneous Quartz on - seems to work pretty well (used on body & rims)...
Carpro dlux, a touch harder to apply you say but im not bothered, I just want the longest lasting and best looking protection and price point doesn't come into it when it's such a small difference.
Fantastic vid. Can do one for best graphene coating for cars.
at some point we can look at this for sure Ash thanks mate
Great vid... I would probably use carpro... durability and shine...
I use what ever coating I put on the paint on the wheels. So in my case either Crystal Serum Light, EXO V4 or McKee's 37 paint coating.
I sold my c5 because it’s been sitting around for a few years unused and saw your video and started to regret it but at the end I didn’t feel too bad seeing your results 🤣
great test, and the same as mine opinion. My go to is dlux, because the price, durability, and I can use it on plastic and it works great there as well. I am on my second season on the application on dlux on my summer wheels. after a total dcon, its back to like new.
Gyeon is a bit pricy in my country. But have tried carbon collective, max protect v1 and v3 and dlux. And over all dlux is one of my favourite products.
Wait 15 min next time before levelling/buffing :)
looking forward to see you compare another Carbon Collective Coating such as oracle, molecule and nero
Great video John. Which of these adds the least amount of gloss? I have matte wheels.
hey gary, You should pick a coating for matt finishes. Gyeon have a "Matte" coating i think. might even by like gyeon rim Matte version. but yer these coatings will add some gloss so use a matte coating.
I used Gyeon Rim on a set of O.Z matte grey wheels and in my opinion it did not alter the finish of the matte finish at all just enhanced it and darkened the finish. The resistance to brake dust was fantastic and I maintained them with Gyeon Cure Matte Weekly. I only used one layer and I was very happy with the result 👍🏻
As Jon has mentioned they also make their matte specific coating Gyeon matte which is more expensive and not as temperature resistant.
Jon, my go to is ArtdeShine's wheel coating. Bloody good stuff.
Lol i just found a brand Gyeon Q2 Quartz in my detail kit was wondering if it was worth it! Yes!
Very enjoyable video Jon & I suspected Gyeon would come out on top.
My own preference for wheel coating would be KKD Revolve. It's not the easiest to use & can be sticky to remove but the look improvement plus the hydrophobicity/ease of cleaning ability of it is fantastic. I have just passed the 12 month point on my own alloys & the coating is still going extremely well. Calipers are also still repelling water/dirt & effortless to clean.
Hi John, is Gyeon Rim still the best? Just going to collect all 4 rims from being refurbished at the Wheel Specialist.
Best,
Chris from Pompey!
They have rim Evo now. Not tried yet.
C1 crystal is what I use and works well, whilst being cost effective.
It’s exactly the same as C5. Some would say. Some would deny but use them side by side and then deny it!
Really helped in my selection of product, being a newbie to detailing I’m opting for the C5 G-Tec on the basis of ease of application and then beyond that the other positives this product brings, it would be good for the company to cover re-application... my wheels will be newly refurbed so whist off the car is there a benefit to layering?
Great video and great work! How many wheels can you coat with one bottle? And if you don't use it all, how long can the half full bottle stay on the shelf before it goes bad?
a 15 ml bottle will do 4-8 wheels closer to 4 really unless you go mega sort of tight mode. I have used coatings like 2 years later after opening them and they work. but most brands say discard after 3-6 months of opening.
Can you run me through the cleaning and prepping of the wheel before you apply the coating . Like , what you use . Thanks
Another nice video Jon. Here in Canada carpro and gyeon are the same price - well like 2 canadian dollars difference lol - but you can use dlux on trim. So dlux is clearly more value for the money here.
Great Video! I'm going to try the Gyeon product.
You should have included Kamikaze Stance Rim Coat in this test also..
A bit out if the price range of the others, isn‘t it?
It would have been between Gtechniq and Gyeon in my experience. For almost double the price. Not worth it.
Well, yes I do agree that the price is 2,5 times as much... But the title says "The Best Ceramic Coating for Alloy Wheels".. So why not include all price ranges? Then we can also see how good the "cheap" ones compare.
It is the best. There’s a cost to have ease of use, looks, and durability. I’ve used Gtechniq, Gyeon Rim, Ceramic Pro, 22PLE and about to try Carpro. So far nothing touches Kamikaze and if I’m doing a more budget friendly detail, Gyeon Rim.
Great video John.
Not used any wheel ceramics as yet, but for me it'll be how easily it makes for cleaning wks or month's down the line.
Ps only ceramic coating ive used is carbon collective glass coating.
you can notice the difference I think for the first few months, then it looses that fizz. but I think they are the best we have.
This is perfect timing for me Jon! I'm about to prep my wheels for harsh Scottish winter and have bought Gtechniq C5. Can you put a coat of polish on the wheels before coating them?
what do you mean by polish? whatever you use beforehand on the wheels, IPA wipedown them before coating, you want a bare surface before coating so it bonds correctly.
I think Modesta is probably one of the absolute best in my opinion. But its pro application only.
P.s. I dont think your tests are biased. Now if Bilt Hamber made a ceramic wheel coating.......... lol
hi, just a quick note IMHO not one company who makes any SIO2 based sealants or graphene based or any other nana hybrid sealants have been tested by a ASTM number or SAE testing for paint sealants even the aircraft industry manufacturers do not have one for the OEM paints used to paint aircrafts by boeing Airbus and others, permaguard product is used by some of these manufactures or should i say companies who have brought planes for commercial use and they say that for the first 12 months of permaguard used on the OEM painted surfaces of those aircraft they will pay for a complete re spray of that aircraft if there's any problems with the paint which was coated, but the warranty issues that the OEM painted surfaces from these companies and what may happen is like life insurance people pay for years and nothing ever happens based on what the insurance policy will cove for you its always something you get and your insurance will not cover it, so till theres a ASTM standard applied to all car care/ detailing products and the claims they make then i will totaly believe it, they have it for oils and other maintenance products used for cars and serviable items, but not for the painted or plastic surfaces at all?
dont get me wrong the products on the market now and what you can achieve as far as low cost maintenance to keep the paint clean compared to say 30 years ago is totaly amazing, but only if you have a car which is going to make you money in the long run or you just like to look after your car and just want to make life a little easier to wash and protect its value with in 3 to 5 years full stop?
I think ceramic coatings are the real deal. The one thing thats not consistent is the product claims. Some brands put out fantastically honest information on what these products really do, some spread mis-information and use marketting tricks to mis-represent what the products can do.. (flamethrowers on the paintwork etc)
Great video and very nicely done, I bought a set of custom built wheels last season and ended up going with Gyeon Rim, I agree 100% on better instructions on what materials these ceramics can be applied to. After reading Gyeons instructions I decided not to coat the raw aluminum lip of my wheels and ended up going with a wheel wax instead, only applying Gyeon to the barrel and face of the wheels. (powder coated surfaces)
After watching your video I want to ask and confirm if these products can actually be applied to raw metal surfaces? In particular polished raw aluminum.
Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
they can be applied to metal mate.
Always use Gtechnic C5 with 2 layers of Exo on my wheels
You should have tested Kamikaze Stance Rim too.
covered in video theres millions of companys and detailing products. I can cover 4. hopefully we can go again though.
Kamikaze stance rim has been my go to. I’ve used C5, Gyeon, 22PLE, Ceramic Pro, but none touch the Kamikaze. I use Gyeon Rim for more cost saving projects, but when it’s my personal vehicle or a “do the best” project, Stance Rim. It’s easy to use, a little goes a long way, easy to remove, feels super slick. 1 or 2 layers will get you 12-24 months depending on how it’s cared for, but I’ve personally seen 18 months from 2 layers on a vehicle that doesn’t get the best care, it gets washed occasionally and dried with a leaf blower, and it’s held up. I’ve also seen about 18 months on a truck used for farm work. Every few months it came to me for “maintenance” to help keep the coatings at their best.
Polish Angel Supersport is a great spray and wipe stand alone sealant or maintenance for coated rims.
Same with paint coatings. When someone says “the best” I use Kamikaze, for more budget oriented jobs Gyeon or Cquartz UK.
Hi john, carpro dlux and gyeon rim which one?
Great video Jon, as always, and the reviews are always as honest as you can be.
But..I'm struggling to find the 'need' to purchase ceramic wheel coatings. My alloys have been recently refurbished, but they are cleaned weekly to 2 weekly, without fail. I use premium products, mostly from GT Therapy and BH, and they never fight me, to get them looking tidy, once more.
Plus...having the time available, and clearing a space in the garage, to apply the product, is not an easy task either.
Are these products really that good, which make wheel cleaning THAT easy, that it's worth the time, effort and outlay...
Hello, great video, full of informations, like others your videos :) can i ask a question? can i use the microfibre after apply this coatings? i mean for cleaning rims, not polish or wax buff, thanks for answer and have a great day :)
yes mate so perhaps after using a microfiber on coatings relegate it like engine bay cleaning, treat it like a rag. but perhaps dont buff on your paintwork with it (some do though)/
I just clean my wheels then apply CarPro HydrO2 Lite for a very thin version of a ceramic coating! Can't knock how easy it is to spray on, spray off and watch the wheels go instantly hydrophobic.
Hi Jon, just wondered if this video before selling the red peril, just wondered if you missed it, as you know Ive went old school and I can honestly say I dont miss her at all and loving the new project.
I started this test when I had the red peril. I do miss it. but it was the right thing to do david. the clubsport is more fun.
@@ForensicDetailing I love BMWs Estirol Blue not sure their is a better car colour and a fair few carmakers have tried to copy it but their is just something special about BMWs colour, I did originally think you would have been more inclined to restore that one rather than the E36 but their are merits for both cars. Keep up the great work bud, and I hope more watchers will become Patrons
@@Zenyettamondatta thanks Dave, yer I want to shoot a video on the difference between the E36 and the E46. I love them both but theres some pros and cons.
Hi Jon,
I coated my wheels with C5 two months ago. Excellent results but don’t know whether to use BH autowheel at 1:1 every few weeks or just keep using autowash? Do I even need to use fallout on em?
Thanks 👍
Just wash with surfex HD at 10:1 and then once every 2-3 months use Autowheel to like really deep clean and remove some fallout.
Thanks for reply Jon 👍
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