Peace, Love & Drugs: Inside the Rainbow Gathering | Fringes
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
- Last July, thousands of hippies convened in a remote Colorado forest for the 50th annual Rainbow Family Gathering. It started as a counterculture movement whose mission was to establish a utopian society that would last thousands of years. But 50 years later…things have deviated from that plan. In recent times, the Rainbow Family has been plagued with crime, sexual assault allegations, and even suspicious deaths. So which is it-a prayer for peace, or a refuge for vagrants with no oversight? VICE’s Erica Matson trekked out to Routt County National Forest to attend the week-long gathering to see if peace is real, or if it's just an acid trip.
00:00 Intro
03:31 How Does the Rainbow Gathering Work?
05:43 The People & The Food
08:56 Getting Kicked Out of Dinner Circle
10:03 Alcohol Camp (A Camp)
11:27 “It’s Not an Event I’d Take My Kids To”
14:11 Why So Many White People?
16:10 Prayer for Peace
17:58 The Younger Generation
20:24 What is the Point?
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I followed the "Rainbow Path" for over 10 years. At first, it was pretty fun, but over the years, it became very unpleasant. I've never had more property stolen from me than I did at Rainbow Gatherings. Not to mention the "cliques" that berate you and tell you off if you're not part of their little group. There is also a lot of hierarchy even though they claim to all be equals. There is also favoritism among certain people who will get more food or special treats that no one else can have unless they work.
And at the end, during cleanup (which I usually stayed for to find free drugs and other left items), there was always an extreme amount of trash. "Trash Mountain" was common every year. One year, we had to block the road with full trash bags to prevent people from leaving unless they took some of the trash with them. Most had more room than when they came so it didn't make sense for there to be so much trash.
Before the internet, Rainbow Gatherings were pretty awesome. The location was always via word of mouth. But once the internet became big, that all changed. Now it's just a big drug party made up of thieves, liars, and some of the shadiest and meanest people you will ever meet.
Are you guys drug addicts?
"There is also a lot of hierarchy even though they claim to all be equals. There is also favoritism among certain people who will get more food or special treats that no one else can have unless they work." - That is literally any species on earth. That is how any gregarious species will function. there is no anarchy. even in so called anarchy there will be a hierarchy.
Yeah I’ve heard from people who’ve gone this last decade or so that it just ain’t the same. The internet was a mistake.
Internet doesnot change things, it exposos them
Facts
Regarding the woman yelling at them about the camera, and the other woman reporting she got yelled at 3x when she first arrived: Ironically I’ve always found earthy, “peace-loving” ppl to be some of the rudest and most hostile and intolerant I’ve ever met.
This is a very large gathering. And there are lots of interpretations of it's rules and purpose. Some get very intense about enforcing the rules that have been in place for a long time.
There are people of all walks of life at this event. And some.of them are extreme and aggressive.
This is my favorite place in the world, but anytime anyone ever asks me if they want to attend I always say to be safe and aware. It's not a 100% experience in any direction. And bad things can happen and people may be harsh about their space and opinion. But it can also be amazing and fun and there is lots of welcome and love.
It sounds like some form of anachist 'society' they are forming there for some days. So they might allow bad things to happen because a lot of the value what they see as freedom much more than justice
Right??? Disgusting attitude
100 percent
You forgot delusional.
Some friends in I went to the Rainbow Gathering that came to Arkansas back in 2007. It was a very unpleasant experience for me personally. I had my Djembe and Tabla Drums stolen, I was denied water on several occasions because I didn't have any drugs to trade off, and not to mention the little outbreak of Hepatitis that occured throughout the camps. It was my first and my last time to ever attend one.
Thats exactly what if expect and id bet if you had a 20$ they would take it lol
Outbreak of hepatitis...lol good times.
There's always dysentery or some sickness that gets spread around.
I've never experienced denial of water because there were no drugs to be traded. There's a communal water dispenser at every single major kitchen camp. The only rule is "don't touch your thing to the thing"
@@isakn7975 no, we will not take your money. Actually a lot of people will probably be quite offended if you offer them money for goods at this event.
This was very well done showing the Positives and Negatives and letting us decide how we feel
Facts !
I just want to see lol
True journalism !
Who is NOT letting you decide how you feel? Are they tying you up and saying you have to feel something else? Please stop with the animalistic illogic banter that lack any reason.
Where is Rainbow 2023 being held?
I would like to point out something I rarely see mentioned. These cultures, and communities, never have been, nor will they ever be "the answer" or "utopia." They serve particular people through particular struggles, curiosities, or moments in their lives. What I'm trying to say is a lot of times when people are all "I went for X number of years and it isn't the same" It has more to do with the person and their own journey than the event. These kind of groups, are often simply outgrown by people once they get the answers they seek. Same with most religions and events like burning man or rainbow gathering, they are great for a certain person, at a certain time, but they should not be viewed as the answer to all for everyone.
Absolutely agree.
Most cogent comment so far :P
Well said
I have out grown AA but let them hear that
Amen.
I'm an old head, so I've gone through it all
And after 31 years, I can honestly say that Jesus is truly the only way
I found Him as the only "answer" - to a question that not many will ask, unfortunately
And on that note, His peace be with you :)
Look, when hippies start to nest in a new area, it draws other hippies in. With the right weather conditions and topography, it can lead to a music festival. - Eric Cartman
I immediately thought of that Southpark episode too ha
😂
That fucking drill vehicle to bore through the crowd. Lol
Classic episode 😂😂😂😂
I think you would need a stronger song than “raining blood” for this gathering.
I went to my first Rainbow Gathering in 2017 in Oregon. I wasn't a social person before I went but it really made me way more social with everyone. It was the best experience I've ever had in my life and changed me. I met a lot of amazing people and friends.
That was my first one! I met one of the best friends I'll ever have there. Rainbow aint perfect but you learn so much and it's a beautiful vision.
Mine to! I think every year is different some years may have some tougher groups then others but year 2017 was a great one to experience not one negative.
As a person of color, I felt much more welcome at the Gathering of the Juggalos compared to the Rainbow Family Gathering.
Whoop whoop. Judgemental hippies.
It’s kind of amazing how so often attempts or claims of being radically “open, loving, selfless” etc can super easily turn into something very selfish.
When there's no consequences for bad actions, predators thrive. That's what this sounds like
when openess thrives toxicity is more visible, doesnt mean there is more or less. but the lack of judgement allows toxicity to come out of the shadows.
Human nature.
@@EuropesNinja There are consequences for bad action in rainbow, and many predators have been expelled from the gathering, handed over to police, or even jailed. In the early 80s, when Antonio José Ramos attempted to prey on children in our gathering, rainbow gathering participants testified against him and incarcerated him for over 30 years.
@@MorgueOfficialMusic It's not human nature to be antisocial. Humans are literally social creatures
I stumbled across a Rainbow in Morocco a few years ago, was fucked up. A bunch of rich white people playing at some arbitrary projection of Pocahontas spirituality and talking love and togetherness while aggressively driving away the local people who come by trying to sell desert tours or whatever. The guy in charge (there's always someone in charge) was quite explicitly racist, an old South African Boer. Really came to a head when some of us tried to call him out and he screamed back "WE'RE HERE FOR PEACE: YOU'RE EITHER WITH US, OR AGAINST US!" Which still makes me laugh to this day.
That was really the last nail in the coffin of my hippie aspirations. In practice, the full-on hippies that I've met (especially the men) tend to be deeply angry, resentful, broken people who adorn themselves in half-assed vapid mysticism just to get high on their own self-superiority, like would-be Mansons - just without the charisma.
People around the edges of hippie culture are often amazing, but by definition, if you actually care about the real world and real society, you stay engaged with it and spend your time and energy working to improve it, not just wanking in a hammock till the sun goes cold.
This is a great comment ❤
Was it a white South African with a British accent named Robin? Bc if so, that guy is a convicted rapist and not welcome among rainbow family for some time now. Sometimes he likes to act like people don’t know who he is, and organize a campout in the rainbow name. They never go well.
Hippies are some the most selfish people on the planet. They care about no one but themselves. They can't shower, they can't get a job, they can't do anything for themselves then blame everyone else for their problems.
Every hippie I've met was nice at 1st but, quickly became a rude prick when they couldn't find their drugs. They make everything into a fight too. It's always "the system is letting me down man" with them.
They smell bad too. I can get over the weed that's cool but, they also leave trash everywhere and have no regard for safety at their events. They let bad people with bad intentions in with them and say "people will be people man" because they can't get the concept of caring about others quite like they do themselves and their drugs.
your description of hippies is probably the most accurate I’ve ever heard
"...full-on hippies that I've met (especially the men) tend to be deeply angry, resentful, broken people who adorn themselves in half-assed vapid mysticism just to get high on their own self-superiority" is the most accurate comment on the modern "hippie" bullshit. I've felt this way since I was a kid, growing up around people like this. Always a methy, dark undercurrent. ALWAYS.
Last year I had a positive experience of meeting people at a gas station in Hayden who were not sure of the route. I helped guide a caravan 2 hours down the most beautiful trail I have ever seen. There were miles of Black eyed Susans covering the rolling mountains as far as your eye could see. The most beautiful horses running through the fields. Every year I wildflower hunt for beautiful views and the drive to that gathering should have been a magical experience for everyone. Going into the campground I had roses that I spread the petals from onto the road as I drove. I handed a few out my window and turned around. I enjoyed my sunset drive back home. I'm happy I was there to help a few get somewhere safe. Utah/Colorado mountain girl. The back roads are my peace ✌️
I got sucked into that when I was young. I realized that they fund themselves through local food banks and send young dumb people like me to panhandle to fund this. I found it strange, deceiving and I started hopping trains to avoid those people
who was sending you to spange?
Erica did a phenomenal job with her assignment!!! I’m very impressed with her integrity and authenticity.
R u her 5th grade teacher?
Race baiters @14:30
I can smell this place through my screen
My thoughts exactly, they all look pretty ripe to me.🤣🤣
LOL!!
Hahaha
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onion town
why does it have to have a purpose? isnt it just nice to be able to get together with such nice people for a little while and enjoy life? life is all about experiences right? this is just one of those nice experiences. what you get out of it is personal.
That would be too honest
I think the term you are looking for is "higher purpose". You said "why does it have to have a purpose?" and then described one of its purposes and suggested that it should have that purpose.
This is what I am saying. This idea that everything we do should somehow change the world is just baffling to me.
I feel this, life should be about helping others and being happy, does it really need to mean more than that?
It does have a purpose. To pray for peace, to get away from consumerism for a while, and get off the grid. It's really good for you.
Oregon has its own annual hippie event called The Oregon Country Fair. It's a huge celebration that has been going on for 50+ years, of which I've been to for 30 of those years.
I never used any drugs or alcohol while out there or in my life up until my 30's (even then, just weed and alcohol), so I've had a sober eye for the majority of times I've stayed at Oregon Country Fair. The majority of folks there treat it like Christmas- a fun short-term event that's there to remind you of how you and others could be in real-life society, as well as make some money (which hippie boomers eventually found to be the endgame). And it's fun if you come knowing what it is, and it's also fun to get a little lost in the utopia illusion now and again.
I gotta say, the vibe has changed and splintered, ESPECIALLY during the Trump years. A lot more dudes taking more uppers, dawning more army-drab and survival clothes, being sexually forceful with women, and overall giving off an aggressive vibe. I'm seeing a lot of those dudes in this video too. A little TOO proud of their Viking heritage and a lot of unsolicited defense of their manhood.
A lot of white dudes lately are having a crisis of masculine and cultural identity right now and it's getting worse, fast.
Just goes to show that Karen's exist in all walks of life lol
"gEt OuT oF mY cIrClE mAn"
Lmao
🤣🤣🤣
I was hoping somebody would say this!!! They totally are Karens....
Karens that don't shave their pits.
A girl in my art class went to the 1986 Rainbow Gathering in Allegheny Forest in Pennsylvania. We were seniors in high school. She described it exactly like this video shows: kind of strict, serious hippies. It didn't sound like fun to me, but she did enjoy it and the memory of her description has stuck with me for decades.
The Far Left and Far Right are increasingly agreeing on so many things for both opposite and similar reasons at times. I have been working on Horseshoe Theory, 2020 update.
I’m sure she was just some art weirdo that fakes her personality to try and fit in ….cringy asf
I'm more worried about what would happen to the world if these radical extremists from left and right decided to throw their differences aside and shake hands
That would truly be the end of the world.
@@maddogbasil Fundamentally they're morally opposed these days, despite how much the origins of this theory agreed. Today's versions well as a left-leaning Social Democrat, my wing's tiny minority who keep causing disproportionate problems, their selflessness is being exploited by Leftbook echo chambers. The opposite end get pushed from normal self-interest, to opposite mob-mentality. Someone wrote a great article where the main uniting point is: Covert Authoritarianism in the Libertarian direction, and obvious overt Totalitarianism of both wing's worst types.
@@TheHorseshoePartyUKdefinitely a line plotted left to right can also plot a curve from dogmatic to pragmatic and back.
Everyone used to call me a hippy when i was in my 20s. I had long hair, drove a 73 bug, smoked a lot of herb, ate as many hallucinogens as i could get & looooved Jerry Garcia. Now im 54. Many of the things i mentioned are still true. But i no can no longer identify with the folks in this video. They think theyre changin the world by getting naked & partying for a few days. It's silly.
I still love Jerry Garcia :)
I think Finch really brings up a problem in our society. The people he speaks of who need that type of special love/attention/patience should not have to come here to get it, and should not only get it once a year. 😢
well, I can tell you that there are more than just one gathering a year. The annual (July 1-7, technically) is the biggest one. But regional gatherings happen all year round all over the country (and also the world). They are smaller, more intimate, and made up of a good mix of locals and road dogs who live on the Rainbow trail for much of the year.
@@jurneymetatron6871 that is good to hear. I was just trying to say it would be nice if all of society accepted that some people need that special love and attention and were willing to offer it vs shun them
There's also access to mental health professionals. Like at hospitals or clincs. If you don't have insurance, I'd recommend shoplifting ~$900 merchandise and turn myself in. That way you have a mandatory minimum ~6 months of free housing, food, and medical care. Plus you can enroll in free college classes to learn skills that benefit society rather than polluting a national forest with the petroleum based plastic that wrapped your organic plant-based meat substitute that imitates the taste of beef.
I'm with the mom and daughter...if they haven't integrated in 50 years they certainly failed miserably
Integrate? Do you have any idea of the hell the system has been heaping on hippies for 50 years? I mean they only recently started letting out guys who have been in prison since the early 90’s for LSD. They were actively persecuted for decades. Plus the complete corporatization of the economy doesn’t leave much space for hippie bookstores and hippie clothing boutiques. Maybe a headshop or a dispensary but that’s a lot of money for inventory and hoop jumping.
Its 👏🏻 not 👏🏻 our 👏🏻 duty 👏🏻 to 👏🏻 make 👏🏻 space 👏🏻 for 👏🏻 minorities 👏🏻
well, you do not see many black folks camping, climbing mountains, skiing. Who is supposed to "integrate" them?
@@dotbeyond thats my point. Why make the few who want to join in those activities feel unwelcome?
they are isolating not making societal and political change. exactly
Colorado people were not happy about this. You cannot "leave no trace" with thousands of people living and pooping in a sensitive environment for a few weeks. I heard the forest there won't recover for quite a few years
Yeah, despite all of their environmentalist love and light hippy woowoo talk, they sure do leave a disaster everywhere they go.
Yeah they completely trashed the our national forest in WV when they came through. They were also very hostile and some what violent to us locals. I would've gotten hit with a wrench and jumped pretty good by them for no reason other than I didn't give them enough money while they were bumming outside our local rite aid. I'm sure some of them are really good people but the mass that shows up are usually horrible people that are wanted for horrible crimes. Again this was just my experience with them. I'm sure they're not all like that.
Well you can if you pay for everything to be cleaned up after but theyre 'anarchists' so they dont believe in money like that.
they are all a disaster themselves.
@@brandonsergeon5915 I believe it. They had come through Steamboat Springs about a decade ago and did the same thing, so locals were very upset about them coming back for an even larger gathering. Apparently at the previous one, a lot was stolen from local grocery stores and it took years and years to remediate the damage
I have been to two rainbows in europe, which are different to the ones in the US I guess. They are usually one month from new moon to full moon, not too many drugs and just one kitchen. The energy really depends where the Rainbow takes place and what kind of 'hippies' coming. It also has its dark sides. But it helped me to heal on many others. Peace& Love
These type of people are absolutely beautiful to me. I would love the courage to be able to unplug and spend the week with individuals like these.
Bless them all
there seems to be an awful lot of hierarchy and clique like formations for a group that claims equality, like how can you say on one hand that "everyone is welcome" then turn around to hear someone being yelled at to "get out!"...
It's meant to me no cameras.
It's one of the main rules that everyone understands. Even to take a photo is one thing, and you should get the permission of everyone in it, but I understand why someone would get upset about a camera in the food circle.
It's like the rainbow equivalent of taking your shirt off in a mosque.
People feel very strongly about it
@@cfcolly ah yes, comparing hippies in the woods to a 1,400 year old religion. makes sense
@@poindextertunes I just picked the first thing that came to mind, but I do think respect is important.
To the people at rainbow it is just as important as that. It doesn't matter how long something has been happening, it's still a culture where people have string feelings about their beliefs.
You talking about the cops? [Just sayin' yo.]
i think the thing we need to accept as a society is that the more people you have in one place, the more likely it will turn corrupt. that and adding drugs to anything will get messy. i used to want the hippy lifestyle so bad, until i realized how psychedelics and drugs were a huge part of it. personally, i just feel like we live in a fallen world and everyone is just medicating themselves one way or another. if we want to create a positive change- we need to stop complaining about our government and pointing fingers. we all need to hold ourselves accountable and make an effort to be present day to day. change starts in your household.
100% agree with everything you said change starts within !!
Change might start in your household but it certainly doesn't end there. You need entire communities decided to change the way things are to make an actual difference. Maybe that's what this people are looking for in the Rainbow gathering. It won't accomplish much but is certainly better than isolation.
I’ve read a lot of comments on this video. This comment in particular I personally agree with a lot.
Whats wrong with complaining about the government?
yes and we should realize how difficult peaceful co-existence is at a global scale and be more appreciative of also the pros of government and the benefits of it, even though a lot of that we take for granted. Still, we should work together to improve, but lets not act like some return to some more primitive way of being is gonna solve the struggle for world peace.
This is what I want to see from more news networks, the little things that grow your perspective.
I first experienced rainbow in 2011 I didn't have any problem as far as race goes but I would say it depends what region you attend that will be a defining factor in diversity, final point I had a blast and it was life changing I will never forget it...
I went to the 2012 rainbow gathering in Tennessee during my high school senior year. The hype build up, excitement and travel were straight out of a b-rated indie road trip movie. When we finally get there mid afternoon, people were already tripping and hallucinating on acid and mushrooms. We observed a lot of marijuana being smoked amongst tight, closed groups. Barely legal adults taking off their clothes “to free themselves”. I saw grown adults acting inferior to my high school self. I enjoyed it for what it was, I think I was afraid to socialize out of my own group of friends. Some friends knew others there, and eventually we all broke apart, although all 7 of us traveled in one vehicle. Towards the end, I felt lonely, and just wanted to get back home. I appreciated the rest of high school after that trip, and it’s what really triggered my interest in college. Overall, good experience if you have friends that won’t abandon you. But hey, we were all high schoolers just living our best life.
Aww, sorry sounds like they wern't real friends. :(
Thanks for sharing, you can feel really lonely in a big crowd if you don't feel connected or seen .
Seems like it wasnt the type of place for you
lol the ultimate human experience. Thank god we built society
lol the few replies to your comment here pretty much confirms the arrogance and entitlement (insecurities/fear) these folks truly think they have. plain and simple...they destroy nature and serve nothing but their egos, pure privelege. peace and love lol, what a joke
I’m the girl with red hair saying “we do this thing where we yell 6up if we see cops”
I was so excited for this to come out, they interviewed me for like an hour and I’m only in 1 second!
Honestly I’m glad because I was pretty wigged out at the time
We’re you tripping? What do you think of all the negative comments about rainbow in these comments?
Congrats, celeb!
Do you think this doco is accurate?
Just be grateful that they included you in the final production.
You’re proud of this?
I was at this gathering and I had a great time. For me the spirit of the gathering was to help people carry there things up and down the mountain. People gave me small snacks as a token of appreciation. There was every kind of person there. My big issue with the rainbow gathering is people bringing their dogs and letting them roam freely. I witnessed dogs being abandoned and fights breaking out amongst packs of unsupervised dogs. Also the guy in that Jack sparrow pirate hat was going around picking fights with people and that spoons guy was arrested for flashing a family with small children and grabbing himself as they were just trying to walk by to the main gathering. Anyone reading I highly suggest you don’t camp in the parking area unless you have to.
Been to 3...2 regional, 1 national...were some of the nicest people I've ever met. When we were all gone, you'd never know we were there! Thanks Seed Camp!
I went there to the Rainbow gathering. I was selling Soap and Deodorant, came back with all my stock 😥
They do look filthy to be honest lol
😂😂
That's what I just said. They even look smelly.
They won't even use organic deodorant..
LOL that's what you get for trying to make money in a place where money doesn't exist
I worked as a medic at one of these in Northern CA years ago. Zero patients for DAYS until I literally had to run to the main road desperately trying to find signal to call for an ambulance for a possible heart attack (I had a heart monitor but our nurse took the med box when we swapped out at shift change FOR WHY?! SERIOUSLY?!) Anyways, I'm alone running through the woods at 3am not able to wake a soul on the medical or staffing team via radio for assistance when the nurse gets on the radio mad I woke him up saying someone better be dead. I said, "mate, he might be, I had to abandon him in order to call an ambulance for the STEMI I saw on the monitor! Care to mosey on down to the first aid tent and give some aspirin/nitro while I ask the rangers to radio for an ambulance??" Very stressful. I never worked for that company again.
The mate part is what has me believing in that this whole story is made up. No 1 in the United States says, "Mate.
@@Jdogg51 True but there were a lot of ppl there from all over, not just the US. I believe the story because why make something like this up?
I used to live near a Love family cult . I went to a party there in my teens and they tried to convince me my mom didn't love me. I thought that was so ironic and left.
I went to these a few times as a teenager. To me it was an escape from societal pressures where I could openly experience psychalics with like minded people. I think there are some people who thrive living this way but for me it was merely an escape. When they did come to town though the word was watch out or they will sell you fake acid or something which some did to me one time but then I also heard these are all A camp people doing so.
18:00 This is Tree's second major appearance in a VICE doc. He was also extensively interviewed in Cult or Commune: Inside 'The Garden' | My Life Online.
Big Tree‼️
I knew that dude looked familiar!
Even bigger things coming next ;)
The garden is a cult full of user mooches and sexual predators
These are public lands they can't kick you out next year maybe we should gather up a few hundred rednecks and just show up with cameras and see who's going to do what
17:32 no it's not "native" it's you appropriating a fraction of a percent of native cultural then putting it on like some kind of Cosplay outfit you can wear for a little while
Exactly what I was thinking
YUP
The problem isn't that Rainbow is different than Woodstock, the problem is people forgot Woodstock was like Rainbow.
I went to a rainbow gathering when I was 13 years old parents took us there for a one week get away. It was 1993 Littlerock Washington, I believe. It was a crazy experience. Lotta shrooms a lot of nudity. One thing that stuck out for me was there was no alcohol allowed during the whole gathering, which I felt kept it very peaceful and people who wanted to drink, didn’t even show up and were turned away at the gate which I felt we’re all the a.k.a. bad apples because there was no drinking. It was very fun and energy was really awesome. But I do remember some old-timers snapping on me for some real trivial crap. Maybe just the fact that they don’t really have a place to clean their ass and we’re upset about that but overall it was a very cool experience. We brought a 50 man pavilion tent with a wood-burning stove that seem to become the hub of the place which also made it a cool experience.
That wasn't a Rainbow Gathering, that was Gideon Israel's private land that he called Rainbow Valley. Those were essentially massive parties with Gideon riding around on his golf cart yelling at everyone. Pretty sure he was arrested for tax evasion or something and eventually lost his property. The locals hated him for the havoc those "gatherings" wreaked on the community.
Interesting. I used to have a friend who had a farm in Littlerock. She sold and moved to amp tans. It was starting to be lots of housing developments. The Capitol Forest was nearby, great for trail riding with her horses.
I’ll have to look up this Gideon person. Washington isn’t very wild anymore.
@@LilyGazou it was a really great time even though I was 13 was a crazy awesome experience. 45 now and still remember the feeling of being there.
One of the funniest moments of my life was at a Rainbow Gathering where a dude with a tuba would just follow this group of cops while playing the Imperial March song (Darth Vader's theme song)
The cops looked SOOOO pissed the entire time.
chefs kiss to you tuba player.
We love Zach Monster and his tuba… I did that one time with the Imperial March when they were arresting some guy for no good reason, but all I had was a kazoo…just as goofy but less spectacular
@@TheRainbowfinch that's fucking awesome. It was Wyoming nationals in like.... 2008 I think.
I did a rainbow gathering in Usk National park in Washington State not far from Spokane. I was pretty young at the time. This is where I learned to use chopsticks, traded in the bartering circles, and pretty much engulfed myself in the whole experience. We would regularly hitchhike to Spokane to donate plasma for cash, spend the night in a homeless shelter/church for a shower, use the toilet, and head back the next day. Spent a week or two after we left calling everyone brother and sister. Overall, at the time and overtime, I am not worse for wear. The only negative was sanitation was not the best and an outbreak of giardia which ended up putting my hitchhiking buddy in the hospital for three days in Spokane and me in the homeless shelter for an extended stay. The bottom line is that summer which included working in Yellowstone was one of the best summers of my life.
There was no A camp. Drinking was not encouraged and there was not much happening. There was no violence that I remember and after watching this video, clearly, things have changed. Withholding opinion as to better or worse. Definitely different.
The fact that we get free videos from VICE on RUclips is priceless 🙏🙏🙏
May I also remind you the fact that our Native American population in our motherland, the Continent of America before the European Colonizers arrived, was around 15 millions, while the European population in their motherland, the Continent of Europe was around 25 millions.
Today, Native American population is 15 million, while the European population, in the Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering TWO BILLION! A shocking sad truth. 😔
In my humble opinion, it's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners Native American people.
Notorious global cardinal crimes the Christian West has committed, and benefited a great deals, such as Slavery & Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is notorious Colonization still lingering on, may I ask? 😔
Jinxed it :(
"we" huh? Did "We" get permission from everyone gathering to consent to be filmed?
My jaw dropped as I learned Native American population in their motherland, the Continent of America before the European Colonizers arrived, was around 15 millions, while the European population in their motherland, the Continent of Europe was around 25 millions.
Today, Native American population is 15 million, while the European population, in the Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering TWO BILLION.. It is a shockingly sad truth. 😔
@@supremelyeducated3273 Speaking of Native American people who have not occupied an inch of European land, or slaughtered a single European in Europe; while European Colonizers have occupied both North & South America lands and terminated 99.9% of Natives population.
Speaking of Europe which is actually a huge livable Continent with 45 nations. Russia alone is a ginormous nation which occupies nearly half of Europe with a relatively small population. Nearly half of mainland Asia, from Siberia to Far-East Asia also is inside Russia. No wonder Mother Russia is so very huge.
By the way, the "land grab" is more of the same in the Asia-Pacific region where European Colonizers such as Britain and Russia have already Colonized half of Asia, stretching from Australia/New Zealand, to Siberia/Far-East, all in the Asia-Pacific region.
Russia occupied vast resource rich Siberia to Far East ever since 17th & 18th century, while Anglo British, sailing halfway around the world from jolly old England, took over giant resourceful landmass of Australia & New Zealand in 18th & 19th century; all in Asia-Pacific, while Native people of Asia-Pacific region are left with and quarreling over a few tiny islands in South China Sea while Anglo Australia/New Zealand have already claimed big chunks of nearby Antarctica.
They are not the "rightful owners"
I went to the Wisconsin gathering and found it pretty interesting. Personally I think it's important to study (even on just a personal level) semi permanent autonomous zones like this. Really just going for yourself is the only way to experience it but there's something really special about going to a place where you are automatically taken care of with no questions asked. It inspires me to want to help out so that other people can experience something as radical as eating ice cream or home made pizza deep in the woods like that and then being able to participate in making it happen. My favorite part is helping out in kitchens at rainbow I would happily do that all day every day forever if I lived somewhere that had a similar sharing mindset. It sounds trivial, getting taken care of or fed by strangers (without religion) but I think it can be really life changing. It was for me.
The food doesn't magically appear. Someone has to be responsible to bring it to an "autonomous" zone. What happens when it runs out or the ones providing get tired of doing it? Chaos is what happens. They go into other areas, steal, beg or other crimes to get it. Utopia doesn't exist amongst a bunch of people who think tripping on drugs and not being productive members of society is the way to live.
You might be interested in the burner community. There are many regional burning man events that are smaller than the big one and operate on the same principles. There are always lots of people cooking and gifting food to others :)
I've never been to a national gathering but I've been to 10 of the Florida regional gatherings in Ocala and Apalachicola. I think it's one of the best experiences of my life, and a core memory with my best friend who passed away at the beginning of last year. We went for two weeks the very first time and brought a whole bunch of stuff with us, and everything we brought we took back out with us. My favorite part is trade circle, you can find some amazing things to barter for there and I love not having to have money to get something I fell in love with. Main circle is beautiful but if you have any allergies you have to ask each of the kitchen servers if that is in your food or not, just to be safe. The drum circle and dancing for hours is a form of freedom. It might not change the world but it changes a person. The Florida gatherings have always had at least a few non-white people, a decent mix at least. It's hard to convince my non-white friends to join me for camping in the forest lol. I'm going to Ocala next week for 2 days but I'm getting a room because I'm disabled now and can't really carry all the heavy stuff to set up a tent and dig a hole to poop in 😅. There are psychedelics there and a lot of marijuana, but I've never really had the experience of anyone on any other drugs that are hard, and the alcohol is kept at the front gate area for a camp.
My first small rainbow Gathering was eyes opening And really loving, maybe because i came on the very end. It changed a lot in me as I was that "good girl" doing everything as my parents wanted. Visiting the rainbow was like a plot twist in my story,i m really grateful for that. I went more times in different places of europe and the more i visited,the more of dark side appeared. Guy touching me unappropriatly under water when i just wanted to relax 🤢, another " rainbow mother" yelling at me because I wanted to open electronic book (She could say it normally, I didnt know that this also counts as it had just batteries), getting lice 😅, getting diarrhoreia😅 but thankfully getting out of rainbow (Poland) before the disease spread - military fever lead to that some people even child or small babies end up in the hospital. Another rainbow a man died, a tree falled on him. So I dont know. Its good place to visit but dont be naive,we Are just humans and some things Are just the same as anywhere.
The amount of sudo-intellectual bongo players at these events, is off the charts
It’s the best
*pseudo lol
I’ve been to Burning Man in NV twice, along with some regional Burns. I was really hoping Rainbow Family had that kind of culture, but as soon as I saw the woman screaming about the cameras I was disappointed. The woman who pointed out they haven’t managed to integrate in 50 years was spot on.
Burning Man has problems because we put a city of 80,000 people together in the desert for a week, but it isn’t this kind of a mess.
Look for Regional Burns. They’re all over, and in my opinion much friendlier, open, and better managed.
Regional burns? Could you explain a little for someone who knows nothing, but would love to know more.
I don't fit in with any of my family. The only times I kind of behave like my few family members- is when I'm at my worst...
I've married, had kids, ended up addicted to pain pills, recovered, joined churches and 12 step groups, therapy, even acupuncture... trying to "fit in"... I'm 40 and I still don't feel "a part" of anything specific.
Each group I mentioned gave me something, none were bad, but none filled this hole in my soul either, you know?
I'm not sure I'll ever find where I "fit in" but there a few things I'd still like to try. Something like this would be on that list.
Thank you for listening. 💜
@@roxannerodriguez7075 I hope you find what you're looking for Roxanna. - I'd add something about regional burns here, but I don't know anything about Burning Man Culture either.
If you're a burner, you should know that it's not cool to film someone without their consent, even if they're just in the background. Someone could get recognized in this video and lose their job
@@catx7643 exactly, at events like this, there should be no electronics, keep them in your car!
@@roxannerodriguez7075 I mean this in the most kind and gentle way possible, but the reason you haven't found that "something" to fill your soul is because you are looking in the wrong places. You can't fill it with religion, and 12 step programs, and festivals... because it is an internal process. You need to fill the hole within yourself, by yourself. By finding what makes YOU happy. My suggestion, try gardening, knitting, reading, painting, learn an instrument. Once you find the key to YOU.. then you branch out and find your community. ❤️❤️❤️
I’ll never trade my Rainbow experiences. Some were amazing and freeing and some were downright terrible. It is what you put into it. There are good things and bad things and good and bad people. I met some really amazing people who I have remained friends with for over a decade. Things we learned and experienced in Rainbow, we brought back to our lives in Babylon and continue to practice peace, self-sufficiency, kindness, empathy, plus the outdoor survival skills. Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t utopian by any standard, but it helped shape who I am today.
Babylon! I see you.
A-camp was really nice to me and fun, full of comedians and had a pirate vibe. If you feel really repressed in day to day society in how you feel like you have to act/ dress etc, rainbow is a great break from that alone and you don't have to be a hippie cliche into crystals and boho style to get a lot out of it. I was with a physically abusive boyfriend there, had my foot sliced open while walking around barefoot, went days without eating and was mentally unwell and it's still a big highlight in my entire life. I miss the people I met there. I think people could sense I was with an abuser and pretty broken and I really needed the love.
I went like 10 years ago in the mountains of Tennessee with a group of friends and it was horrible. A girl in our group was raped, got sold some scary research chenical
Always test your drugs before you put them in your body!
@@Freshadventures_ That's all you care about?
What was the rape like?
@@Catlily5 bro tbh this is the youtube comment section lower ur standards if u think youll find decent people. But yeah what was the chemical like??
@@j3s333 I can still try to be decent even if you guys don't want to be.
Damn even in the middle of nowhere there are karens
😂😂
especially in the middle of nowhere
For me going to rainbow is like going home! rainbow is my people, but rainbow is a special kind of culture too. you gotta know how to move through it and navigate I could imagine feeling overwhelmed, but everyone was super kind and inclusive to me. It suck they give it that kind of reputation because I hope the number of poc can grow!
This journalist.. Admirable work. (Second piece I’ve watched). How she stays neutral respectful and yet very personable.
This is giving Midsommar vibes. Seems like they’re keen on sacrificing any of their members if they deem it necessary to do so.
The comment i was looking for literally first thing that came to mind when i saw this lmao
You’re also not allowed to film or take pictures in both this and Midsommar lol 😂
As a Swede, I fucking hate that movie. This is so far from midsommar as it gets.
I was waiting for this comment 😂 thank you!
bahahaha
but seriously how do you sleep at night
I went to the rainbow gathering at mount Tabor in 2016 for 6 days when I was 16 years old. Crazy times. Crazy memories.
22:36 this moment stuck with me.
To all lightworkers out there: to ascend humanity - that's just our agreement 🤝 💚
I live in a community that a gathering was held near about 9 years ago. It was a curse to our community and cost us thousands dollars. These gathering aren’t about anything but having a good time while claiming to be doing good when in reality they do a lot of harm.
As a West Coaster, I can confidently say that not only are a good portion of these people either drug addicts or mentally ill (or both) but they are also rather dumb (and ironically extremely closed-minded). These "movements" tend to actually accomplish very little in terms of increasing awareness, and generally just frustrate the locals. If you want to go on a drug binge in the forest, just be honest and say so.
Cops wouldn’t allow that so that’s kinda hard when drugs are illegal
Yea, ive always noticed this about hippies, for people who are supposed to be so accepting and understanding, they often are so close minded, especially politically.
yeah these people are stupid AF, drop them in a real shithole and see if their dinner circle saves them lol
@Breach Perplex I hope you're being sarcastic but it's hard to tell nowadays.
Thank You. I've heard about this group gathering in the Ocala National Forrest for years, way back in the 80s before the internet and even back then they had a bad reputation. Sometimes these druggies will venture out into town and they are the sketchiest people you will ever see. This whole rainbow thing is NOT a movement, all it is, is a drug using festival out in the woods. People pretending it's anything more than that are delusional
SPoons: I fucking hate you!
Also Spoons: Hey man can I get a sip of water?
I've never been to nationals, but I highly suggest going to regionals first to get a feel for it in a smaller scale. All the Texas regional gatherings I've been to were all amazing lovely ppl. I was just out there last week, and I'm already missing them.
Glad to hear the East Texas regional went well! I was hearing good things from folks plugged in ahead of time
I went in 2008 through 2012 and they were amazing. Internet hadn’t ruined the event so fully yet and the L was still needlepoint Swiss
I’ve been to Rainbow twice, and Burning Man 5 times.
Just like in any society, both have their own problems, strengths, struggles and beauty.
Just like when someone sees and experiences the life that has been given to them, half glass full or half glass empty, that is how one will experience their time in a gathering of people.
Burning Man? Did y'all really burn somebody like the movie? Tell me! 😂
yes and the same- i totally agree with your comment. and both make you face yourself too...
one is a commercial event.
I love festivals, fun in nature, woods, all that. I have done and will do my shares, but you can hear the voices of many of these people, they struggle with substance addiction. I hope they will all find their happiness without hurting themselves or others.
they look like a pack of w4nkers.
Yep. A lot of those shows and gathering are just a place for drug addicts and misfits 😂
Everyone is addicted to something
Facts. I couldn’t hang with this crowd. I refuse to be around that many drug addicts. Psychotic breaks will be on the menu for this gathering. No thank you.
@Axel Johnson yup it could be beer or weed even porn or junk food mylittle pony even some kids are addicted to phones and videos games belive it or not
I was at '96 and '98 Nationals. It was heaven on Earth, and I remember a lot of POC.
I haven't been back in decades, but I was into it in the 90s, and I took a good friend who was black, and neither she nor I had one issue. I absolutely loved it every time!! I remembered falling asleep on someone elses hammock because it was dark, and I woke up with a quilt on me, and they cooked my breakfast at their tent. Back then, it helped me make changes in ME. I hate those two ladies who were treated crappy. ❤
I can smell the thumbnail…
"👊"😅 ‼️
I left this same comment before I saw yours. Accurate 😂
Feels weird to see VICE do a doc on this festival, one of my old regulars went to Rainbow last year in CO and ended up disappearing. He left all of his belongings at a campsite and was found dead a couple months later 😞.
Makes me very skeptical of these types of festivals, I know not everyone has bad intentions but I would at least hope that at these festivals, everyone would be looking out for each other.
(I edited the last part for clarification)
So many of us are heartbroken about Jacob. Were you close to him?
That’s sad I’m so sorry..My friend asked me to go check one out years ago..Now glad we didn’t.. 😞
@@TheRainbowfinch hi, thanks for your reply. It’s reassuring to hear that there’s awareness about Jacob. He worked at a neighboring bar to mine and would come in multiple times a week to hang out, watch Packers games, and shoot Jager crans. He was such a sweet soul, everyone down the block knew and loved Jacob. One of my favorite ever people I met bartending.
Behind the facade of "peace and love" is a bunch of psychopaths that would kill you over $0.10.
Alway's one or ten that either can't handle Hallucinogens or maybe had a self realization that the world would be better off without them in it. Edited : Alcohol is also a very powerful drug! It's nice that you personalized him by using his name though. You can probably chalk it up to...Another Fentanyl O.D. I have lost over a dozen friends to that crap. If our prez wasn't a retard, he would go to war with the Cartel's & sink every Chinese ship going to Mexico.
Awesome work. I'm surprised that the cameras were tolerated at all.
🌼 I have been to many Hippie festivals in my hometown, Seattle, but nothing like the Rainbow gathering. If I could meet a free-spirited Hippie like myself who would love to experience the Rainbow Gathering I would be up for it in a heart beat. 💋
Peace and love.
Thanks for this spiritual and fun upload.
"To try to live a utopian society....for a week." LOL!
Carnival cruise
@@Rodwill18
Indeed. Whenever I think of utopia, I immediately think of carnival cruise lol.
Rainbow gatherings always last for one month. Even the most basic facts about the subject were wrong.
One summer I was working in a small town in Montana and The Rainbows came to have their gathering in the nearby forest. I was told the actual Rainbow Family were decent people but the ones that came into town were kinda shitty people tbh. They would try to bathe in the produce misters at the grocery store, aggressively panhandle and block gas pumps with their vehicles until someone bought them gas. Apparently the area where the gathering occurred was absolutely trashed after they left and multiple stray dogs were left behind. Maybe they would have a better reputation if they held the shitty people accountable?
It hard go hold anything or anyone accountable when they are just “vibing” and tripping dick
People left their dogs!!!
Yes free thinkers can be very hypocritical
I heard shady stories about Rainbow Gatherings 20yrs ago. People running from the law or their past or maybe their abuser often run away with the hippies, it's a very mixed bag..
The host of the show was awesome in general and graceful in rejection.
The Rainbow Gathering would descend on my hometown back in the nineties and just turn the whole place inside out. As a teenager it was an amusing spectacle though I'm certain most other residents there were perturbed to say the least.
I went in 95 and 96. Two very different places in the country. Unless it wasn't a national, which is once a yr, u wouldn't have had more then one. Now they do have regionals gatherings usually in the same places sometimes multiple times a yr. I remember rainbow valley in southern WA in the nineties, which was a regional till the govt took dudes land. In truth it was a giant open air drug market at the regionals
What I like about rainbow gatherings compared to music festivals is that it’s all DIY and co-created. Music festivals are often promoting consumerism, aesthetics, and capitalism. Rainbow gatherings are about actively participating in creating an experience, rather then just consuming one.
❤I met a tribe of hippies in Allegheny national forest. They called themselves a rainbow tribe also. Not sure if they are the same rainbow tribe but, they offered for me to go stay with them. That made me happy. At least someone seemed to get me.
Soo much peace and tolerance with the camera crew
well, they came there to make money . Most of the participants do not want to have anything to do with the media.
I think it's fair enough tbh
@@ashadeofnight me too. The reaction of the lady was aggressive but it is still understandable that you don’t want cameras in a place where you want to feel free. It destroys the atmosphere and it is not a human right to film everywhere all the time.
@individuelgirl exactly. they think turning it into a news spectacle is ruining its purity which I get.
I also understand from vice pov she helped make that food and carried it a long way but the camera should have not entered the circle
Its just a place where, mostly white people go to do a bunch of drugs. So naturally they don't wanna be on camera when they probably doing meth, heroin, coke, etc
The locals usually spend a bunch of time sometimes years restoring the campsites afterwards. Did not see any fat people in the video either.
I guess they don´t eat much...😁
They had to hike three miles in. That would deter a lot of overweight people.
The fat people had their McDonalds gathering.
I went for a day to check out the Rainbow gathering about 10 years ago when they rolled through my town in Northeast Tennessee. It was interesting to say the least. I didn't have a particularly bad time, and my best friend was huge into hippie culture and that life so I feel she shaped me having a decent time. However by the end of the day I wanted to go home to a hot shower, and fall asleep in my bed with the internet and food whenever I wanted to access it. That life just ain't for me. It's an experience I'm glad I had, but one that 8 hours was enough for me to get the picture.
I’ve just been reading a comment and that person said a girl was raped at the Tennessee one, not sure when that was.
Obviously gatherings like this will draw all kinds of people just like any other …….good & bad, loads of different type of people, lots drinking and doing drugs …..that’s a recipe for some BS.
I remember many years ago hitchhiking here in England, I got a lift from a woman & her few friends who we’re heading to a similar small event.
She was a character who I know of for many years ……long story short she was going there to sell drugs & party ……just as loads of other people will go there for that.
Lots of people will go to gatherings like this looking for something they will Never find there, ……their is a song by Ritchie Sambora that goes like this …….you can Only get so High, Then you gotta come down.
Drink 24/7 …….fill yourself with drugs 24/7 ……. No one will find what they are looking for it that.
It’s a form of Escapism, Temporary.
@@yanksbrits1965 @@yanksbrits1965 As far as I know they've only been in the state once, and that was the one I went to. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that happened. The county jail was insanely overcrowded and overwhelmed by them being in town. And you're right, a grand majority are just there for a party. Escapism is a lot of people's only goal.
One thing I cant stand while I'm tripping balls is being forced to see people's dermatological pathologies out in the sunlight. This would be Hell.
About "changing the world" it helps misfits and outsiders find a community and a sense of belonging. It's not changing the world but it helps individuals
Unironically some of the best ads ever
my dad went to a rainbow gathering in college (early 90s) and still tells hilarious stories to this day
I think we were a more loving and openly showing care kind of people before the internet. After 20 years of gangster rap influencing the societies, especially the last five years, well not only gangster rap but the whole toxic influence the media has made us forget what really is important in life ❤
I lived in a small town in west Virginia and the rainbow gathering came thru one year. Most of them were violent, I didn't go to the actual gathering but the ones that would venture into town were horrible humans. A group of people setting outside a rite aid bumming money tried to hit me with a wrench because I only gave them change. I 100% would've gotten hit with a wrench and jumped had I not had my Glock on me. Then the trash that they left in our national Forest was fucking ridiculous. It was us that went and cleaned up after them. Maybe I only had encounters with "the bad apples" but I'd say it's all a bunch of bullshit, everyone I knew that did go to the actual gathering said the same thing, they were met with hostility, violence and if they were female they got sexually harassed. Again this is my personal experience with the rainbow gathering I'm sure they're not all like that. I'd say you get more peace and love at a gathering of juggalos then at a rainbow gathering.
@@TheCrusher72 because he has a relevant experience to share
As hellish as either one of these sounds to me, this is unfortunately true, you would be a million times safer at a “juggallo” gathering what with the fact that it’s not some unregulated hell in the middle of the woods where you could get drugged, kidnapped & r8ped or murdered… not to mention juggallos at least appear to take a shower more than once a month & that particular festival seems to have actual bathrooms.
@@g.h.7661 Yeah man you definitely would be safer with them. I have a few "juggalo" friends and they are really accepting of everyone, they really do take care of each other and everyone that shows up.
@@TheCrusher72 The whole video got drowned in the vice narrative that this is completely normal behavior when in reality these are the grossest ‘people’ you will ever see in north america
should have ended that dude with the wrench imagine if you were a woman or child what they would have done they have no morals
I went to a rainbow gathering in Hampi, India.
I felt really welcome and it was an international crowd. This was in 2016.
What kind of drugs were around during that time/place? Lots of ketamine and mushrooms?
That's because rainbow gatherings are different from the ones in the US
@@user-by6yc8yl7v NOPE ... just pure *Indian ganja* (weed) & weed products (hashish, bhaang, etc)
Looks like out of the country is the way to go if your going to rainbow
We talked a lot about life, which was a synonym for just smoking weed. 😉
“The happiest man is he who learns from nature the lesson of worship.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Your choice for the ending cut was excellent. Just a simple agreement, no pressure bro.
Being a sister of the New England Rainbow Family changed my life in so many positive ways. I deeply feel for those who are attending current day Rainbow now for their first time.
Many of us queer/BIPOC/allies stopped going years ago as a form of protest & preservation- the scene was running rampant racist, violent, straight up irresponsible people & we didn’t want to enable them anymore. We stay in touch off of the message boards to keep the real message of love, unity & our traditions alive.
@Vice, let me know if you want to do a follow-up doc on Rainbow Family who left because of this ugliness & are working on integrating our movement to everyday society (or “Babylon” as we so affectionately refer to it 😂)
Loving you family! 🌈 damn I miss zuzu’s in the woods lol
Zuzus!Zulus in the woods - thanks for that memory!
I haven't been able to attend since 2013; I‘m sad to hear that things have gone wonky in the community 😢
Love you sister! Right here with you in "Babylon meets Rainbow" 💗
bruh
Don't matter what you say ur dirty mutha fcukahs and never clean up so shut it. Take better care of ur surroundings not just the people or she'll take back from you and she has and still is
Sounds like a cult
which cameras and mics you guys use ? your documentries / videos always amaze with different topics and smoothing clarity ❤
at 19:00, Julia and Tree are both featured in Vice's "Cult or Commune: Inside 'The Garden' | My Life Online" from over a year ago. I'd love to know what's going on there if anything
The Okanogan barter Faire is a cleaner version of Rainbow gatherings. Mostly run by volunteers. Camping areas, vendors, the free booth. It was organized as a way to barter crafts and farm products. The website says no sales of drugs or alcohol but it was happening discreetly there. I traded handmade things for honey, jams, dried herbs. I painted kids’ faces for free and the parents would give me pot brownies 😂. Plenty of mushrooms around.
Drum circles all night. Informal rave 👽. Lots of music.
Next one is in October. It’s a remote place, no cell service, no stores. So you need to bring everything you want to camp.
I always called them drainbows.
🤣🤣
That is what they are!
I went to the Gatherings from 2010-17 and had some positive life changing experiences along with lots of fun. As I grew with my identity as black person and became more educated on issues of culture and race it became painfully clear how ignorant many at the Gatherings are. The native or indigenous appropriation is rampant throughout and always has been.
Appropriation is a bullshit term. It’s called a cultural exchange. Others may adopt aspects of a culture they like/enjoy. It’s not a bad thing. It’s a good thing. And no other people don’t have to view the aspects they adopt the same. That isn’t how cultural exchange works. You sound like you need to start going again.
@@thealternative9580 what I've seen in too many examples to count isn't any type of cultural exchange. Its the bastardiztion of several indigenous cultures into a white homogenized attempt to feel more connected to the earth.
@@chrisclouds4182 So now you are speaking for white people. You might be racist.
ATTENTION!!! Hell is real!!! We can not hide our sins from God. Jesus loves you and He died for your sins. Repent and put your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Once you die, it will be too late to repent. Mark 1:15 For the Kingdom of God is at hand, repent and believe in the gospel.
did you feel excluded? what was your opinion on what the mother and daughter said?
@Vice Can you do one of these informative videos on The Farm in Tennessee?
Their history is fascinating! 😎💨💨💨
I used to go to the Shawnee gathering it was fun but started to get a little flakey around 02.
I can smell the gathering through the computer screen...
I've been to harvest once. Beautiful experience and we all need an outlet that works for us.. it was a great experience but seeing people like wait all year to essentially get high with many people who also just want to get high but collectively refer to it as something else was really unsettling cause it didn't stop IRL for them either. Power to them but like call a spade a spade vibes lol
Someone robbed my tent at harvest
@@lawina33 a whole tent!?
I have met SOOO many of these types out here in Colorado. I have NEVER been burned by someone like I have from "these types" for lack of better words. They are the biggest liars, hustlers, thieves, bullies, two-faced people that I have ever met. I had a couple of frieds like this that I had to get away from because they did nothing but take advantage of others. So mamy of them are exactly the opposite of what they claim to be. Most "hippy" types are some of the most entitled, arrogant people you will find. There are far and few real peace loving people in between all this mess and those types probably wouldn't be at a gathering such as this because they are humble and have lost ego. Great story! Glad to hear an unbiased view!