What is "The Repair Act” & Why I Don't Think It Should Pass
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John deer in canada has already been pushing this for half a decade sadly. It's disgusting they flat out go and try to punish people for this.
Make this a shirt😂
It's the "Give an inch and they will take a mile mentality".
And it goes both ways between regulators and consumers.
Coal rollers ruined the diesel industry by being obnoxious, they created a problem that caused more regulation.
Letting bills get introduced then sit quietly, is how they become laws.
This reminds me of the" child internet safty" bill that just came up , we all want the childern to be safe online, but do we want the federal government controlling information on the web ?, or would we rather teach our kids internet safety ourselves as parents? I don't think it's the feds job.
Its not just for cars. Ask a farmer what he is allowed to do if his Deere breaks down. Also you missed the point of the tools part of the bill. Lets say the manufacturer says you can only use their scan tool and its $50,000, or $5 ,000,000... how is a mechanic supposed to afford the tools for every manufacturer? The point is to allow the little guy to be able to make it in this business, not keep him out. That is what the manufacturers are already doing.
Your argument is "I want less government regulation". Im with you on that, 100%. But, the government has already regulated us into this position. Without them we could still have simple cars AND TRACTORS that anyone could work on with no special tools and there would be no need for this bill.
I’m a tech at a Deere dealership and I have yet to hear a farmer complain about too much technology or not being able to repair their equipment, we have lots of customers that do all of there own repairs short of making software changes. Deere makes tech heavy equipment because that’s what the customers want, we have farms switching to Deere every year because of the tech that is offered.
@@dooformuladlx I dont normally come right out and call people liars, but this is too silly not to say it. You are a liar.
Anyone who thinks Im not telling the truth, type "John Deere right to repair" in any search engine and see what kind of lies this guy is peddling.
And if you could just explain all the lawsuits and news articles *and my personal experience as a Deere owner* being in 100% contradiction to your statements, that would be much appreciated.
@@lowlife7453 believe me I know all about it and our dealership supports right to repair, we sell special tools and service advisor software to any customer that needs them. But I have yet to hear any of our farming customers complain the ones that I always hear complain are the people with small utility tractors and lawn tractors say 5r and smaller.
@@dooformuladlx yea, it's just those little guys cause they are the ones that can afford the lawsuits... at least you can admit now that you do hear complaints. Maybe if I post that big guys don't complain as much because they lease and are under warranty and service contract you'll admit the whole truth.
@@lowlife7453 I never said I don’t hear any complaints I just said it wasn’t from farmers.
When its thousand dollars to put a $ 50.00 window switch in because the dealer locked you out of the computer. That's going to suck
if i want advice on right to repair on youtube i go to louis rossman been watching him fight for the project well over 10 years now.
So only ever get one persons opinion?
@CooperBogetti I could go ask my wife's hair stylist her opinion, but that doesn't make that opinion relevant. Educated opinions should be weighted more heavily. Not saying your not educated, dedicating a decade to this fight means something.
@@CooperBogetti
Louis is a real and educated force. He has the resources and people to make the fight a real one and has proven to be a force in the battle.
But we have a disagreement I would like less government involvement in business.
@@CooperBogetti I get that 100%. However it's preventative. If they don't establish this standard, corporations are going to do what they do best keep there "proprietary" systems from being serviced by you or me. It's already happening with Apple and John Deere, which sparked this bill from the beginning.
This is in line with Tesla, John Dear, Apple just to name 3 huge offenders but all manufacturers. The cars, tractors, phones you buys at huge prices are held hostage by dealerships even if you get the parts second hand or from another new device. The programs needed to allow the new parts to work are only held by the dealers or manufacturers so your tractors, cars , phones are still dead till you go to the dealers for help. All this does is allow people who buy stuff to actually own it and get it repaired by who they want or by themselves if wanted. John Dear is one of the larges offenders on this and it is criminal... You should watch some videos on it then come back to your opinion on it.
Indeed! Louis Rossmann pushed hard to get this thing to LIGHT...you probably know of him but if not check him out. Yes, there are way too many regulations clogging up the system. But... This is ONE time where we SHOULD make regs to protect our rights to own and repair our machines.
You're looking at it completely backwards
yup
How so? I'm looking from the business owner's standpoint
@@CooperBogettiinstead of a owner look at it from a monopoly stand point. But I’ll finish your video and comment accordingly if I’m wrong.
I believe we need to end all anti-trust laws
@@CooperBogetti so everything can become monopolies and fuck consumers to the max? Why? You can't honestly think you have any chance of becoming one of those elites, that's an old boys club that will use the lack of anti trust laws to make damn sure you never have a chance.
Love ya Coop but if you really don't see the need in being able to work on modern cars, wait till your friends/family end up stuck with the headaches and you'll be wishing you *could* help. The Big Three are *FAR* from "small business", your fear is unfounded. If people wanted small cars they would buy them, they don't.
This doesn't just impact the big 3
I'm thinking you are missing the point. With Tesla making it difficult for individuals owners of there cars to be able to work on them their selves without Tesla telling them no. And other manufacturers for example Chrysler has tried voiding warranties when the owner works on it themselves..
Actually Tesla does not care. They have public service manual, wiring diagrams, service documents, parts catalog, and anyone can make an account and order parts. I try to find OEM service information for my toyota or my jeep and I am sure not getting any of that.
@@chuoelfeoyou're completely backwards on that take
@Axial32 lol how
The automotive industry is going the same way as the farming industry. Companies like John Deere and Case have created a monopoly on who can work on their product. Most of these problems are programming but they often turn a $500 combine into a paperweight that ONLY the manufacturer can resolve. We've been dealing with this with warranty when I was turning wrenches in aerospace as a Cirrus mechanic. We're slowly and gradually being worn down in an ever loosing battle where we're dying from a thousand papercuts on everything we "purchase."
Deere is a bad monopoly, revenue is down and they just did layoffs
@@CooperBogettiJohn Deere had record breaking profits last year they have more money then know what to do with they scored by not having to pay all my friends they laid off.
@@CooperBogetti And you said that "Monopolies are good for the consumer" in another post. This is how it ends in every one, because they do not have a competitor that helps to drive down pricing or innovation to be better, it stagnates and is always worse for the consumer.
Other tractors exist, they are a bad monopoly because the consumer is turning away from them is all. They had the ability to gain more market share and they a screwing it up
@@Malic_VRthey're making it worse for themselves by trying to still choose John Deere and deere isn't doing what needs to be done to fix it
Some form of right to repair must be implemented. The current laws has a tendency to allow companies to be the sole source of repair or even parts. Example, Tesla.
As far as mandating OEM parts, currently Apple is an excellent example of this. They have batteries that are serializied, so there's a chip on the battery that reports an ID and if the iPhone detects and aftermarket battery, it will refuse to work properly with it. They're doing this with more and more parts in all their devices. This also happens in the automotive world with various computer modules now, but I'm not as familiar with such things. I don't know if any manufacturer has serialized their LED taillights to keep Dorman or any other company from being able to make replacements.
Why can't a business do that? If I owned one I would do what I can to sell my own parts
@CooperBogetti interesting take from a guy with gm parts in a ford and Toyota parts in a gm.
None of those brands supplied me with any tools or info. I wouldn't expect them to have to do that
@@CooperBogetti Let's say GM does that, they serialize everything so it can only be replaced by them with a brand new OEM part. And then they decide they're only going to make parts available for 10 years. Or they go out of business. And your alternator fails. You've got a 2013 Denali with 50k miles, but because GM has made it impossible to replace the alternator with a used or aftermarket part and they won't install a new alternator on it, you need to buy a whole new truck. Sure, it's great for GM, especially when Ford and Ram follow suit and they start selling tons more new trucks. But it's terrible for the consumers. Which is why we need legislation to make sure that what's happening now with $1000 phones doesn't happen later with $100000 pickups.
@@CooperBogetti if the big manufacturers want to sell more parts then they should make their parts and vehicles more affordable.
I agree with you on less government and less regulation, but I also want to be able to fix any part of a vehicle I own. In modern vehicles we don't have the data/information at our easy access like we could 10-15 years ago.
In a free and fair market. If a manufacturer produces cars that are difficult to maintain. We would purchase vehicles that were easy to maintain. And the problem would sort itself out. And if we had a free and fair press. They would educate us. Unfortunately none of those things exist in this country
The repair act is crucial to keep big nuisness from being a monopoly. Its putting repair shops out of buisness and its only getting worse with proprietary info/data/manuals etc. Its ridiculous they dont let us fix our own stuff. This year it cost me $900 to have my tractors dpf cleaned and light reset. A job that woukd had cost me around $150 had greedy corporations not locked the data down
Why in a free market can a business not be a monopoly?
@CooperBogetti if you don't allow it how do you expect to be able to modify your vehicle? Restrictions on data access then stops it being tuneable then you have what Ferrari Tesla and John deer are doing where if they don't like what you have done to YOUR vehicle which you own and something goes wrong they refuse to repair or give access for anyone else to repair it so your left being held hostage to them or you have a useless brick. How is that then a free market?
The government is already working against car manufacturers to make things more complex and impossible to tune
@@CooperBogetti Yes they do but it will get worse if this act does not go through.
@@CooperBogetti but if more manufacturers do not give access to diagnostics or ecu access it takes longer for the aftermarket to crack or find workarounds if at all.
Hey Coop, I don't know if you're familiar with Louis Rossman but he owns a repair business and works with lobbying in "right to repair" legislation. Louis works with repairing electronics but with repair legislation there is a lot of overlap with anti-consumer practices and consumer rights. I doubt he would have the time to be on the podcast but maybe ask if he could have a discussion somehow. I know your audience is mostly car guys but this is an important to fight for consumer rights and stop the anti-competition, monopolistic future we seem to be going toward. I wish the FTC gave a damn but their eyeballs must be blocked by cash stacks. Louis has a youtube channel talking about this kinda stuff.
I dont believe any antitrust or anti monopoly laws should exist
Problem is these large companies can take the monetary hit selling at loss to drive out competition, then raise prices when no other competition exists. People have no where else to go
Also Louis has the problem where he's an expert in electronics repair field but apple has strangle hold on parts and will literally block him from acquiring parts he needs to repair apple products. That sound fair to you? Watch his videos as not only that, Apple will just tell you you need a whole new laptop for a $50 part because they don't actually repair their equipment, they're in the business to sell you new stuff
i feel this is actually prevention for larger companies to "lock out" the repair aspect of ownership....
I think this bill would be great for regular Americans, therefore there's almost zero chance it'll pass.
However, imagine GM refusing to allow you to know what RPMs you're turning. They say putting an extra guage in the cluster will make cars too expensive. That's proprietary information. Only GM techs should have access that information. You may own the car, but you don't own the information it produces.
We already live in a world where the vast majority of people have no idea how their vehicle works and are dependant on dealerships.
I don't think those of us who choose self-sufficiency should be supporting a position that allows this trend to accelerate.
I feel like when they started obd2, they should just have a data standard and have everyone just adhere to that.
Love you Cooper, but your distaste for government and regulations are showing. This is all about keeping a company such as Ford from creating a fancy new lug nut, getting a patent on the wrench to prevent anyone else from making them and then charging you $700 for an adapter for your simple tire iron. This prevents a car company such as Chevy from adding a wire to their fuel pumps that implement DRM so you can ONLY use a Chevy pump that has protections built in just like printer cartridge companies have tried. Don't have the approved Chevy fuel pump because you upgraded your fuel system? Then you're not getting any fuel at all because the pump is not reporting back. This would prevent companies from hoarding and hiding their codes for just a service call fee. You are getting a check engine light and try to pull the code with your OBD reader. It reports code 3895725. What does that mean? You're not allowed to know because that is hidden information from Toyota and you have to have them check it out and look it up in their book. What it really means is that your coolant is getting low. The consumer is now paying a service call when all they needed to do was add some water in the engine.
Also your arguments are so nebulous that I am suspicious this is astroturf
There is a big problem here is with planned obsolescence. The newest tractor trucks(18 wheeler) they have sealed transmissions making them nearly impossible to repair. They are designed to be replaced and will not give out specs and info on them. So say you 2nd gear breaks and it's just a broken tooth but you can open it with out them dropping warranty. Also you they don't provide replacement parts so you can only buy the whole transmission. So a 100 plus or minus a few dollars for gaskets, 500 to 2000 in labor or ....... 12,000 plus for a whole new one plus labor. Some auto makers are already doing some of that with head lights. Having to replace a whole head light housing to replace a turn signal is something that is happening now.
Coop, I'm a big fan, but you're lacking a lot of understanding of legalese. The definitions section is where a lot of your questions are answered and can flip the end effect of a law. It's not unimportant fluff. The part about "reasonable" prices for tools is something that will generate a court case. They don't want to specify a price because then that's automatically what the manufacturers will charge until the law changes. They want to specify it as an idea so the price can find it's market cost and if someone strays higher than a court case can decide if it's too high.
The chicken tax was never written to keep vehicles out, it was written to punish countries that put import tariffs on US poultry exports. The US never got a large number of cars because the FMVSS requires proving compliance via destructive testing instead of the manufacturers stating compliance and it taking a fact based complaint before the regulating agency can test the stated claims. And European safety standards are just different enough from the FMVSS that the testing results can't be used in both places so many manufacturers just spend the money to test in one market instead of two.
It would be nice if there were less regulations, but it's been proven time and time again that companies won't improve safety or emissions unless they are forced to do so. And the market can't guide the manufacturers because they all only sell what they think people want, not what they actually want.
They can sell whatever they want because they have a golden parachute if they fail so the consumer doesn't matter.
So dose this mean you could paint your ferrari any color you want now without being sued
Doubt it!
As soon as you said the Definitions are useless I disregarded your opinion, definitons are very very important to every legal document
Obviously they are important but not for anyone that just wants to read this casually
Wow. What a terrible take... I'm usually right in line with your measured opinion on things, but not this one.
I'm old enough to remember smog, and smelling every car as you drive down the road... Now you can tell if someone the cars ahead of you is relaxing with some cannibis.
I also witnessed the effects of acid rain on the northeast.
Your just attempting to justify your right-wing stances, and using it as a crutch.
The current iteration of capitalism is unsustainable. There needs to be more balance.
There won't be a "car culture" anymore, if the manufacturers get their way, and we just rent appliances from them.
I almost always side with business over government and this is just one of those cases. Not right wing, libertarian
@@CooperBogetti Do you think the government should have let GM fail?
Absolutely
@CooperBogetti Me, too.
What's your opinion on FCAs 'secure gateway', that charges you just for access to communicate with onboard systems beyond OBDII data?
It's dumb and they will fail because of dumb things like this. Everything always works out
You have totally missed the point. The issues in this bill have already been a problem, This isn't a bill for the future, This is a problem now. Many shop owners complain about these repair challenges all the time. It's not a new problem. Also It's not that it's illegal for other people to work on your car besides the dealership as you suggested. The problem is, manufactures have made it impossible. Service data, Service manuals, scan tools, the access to the software to even make those scan tools work properly for flashing moduals etc. They've locked all this down, so you have no choice but to use the dealership at a very high cost to you. They have basically created a monopoly. This practice is very anti-consumer. In other words, you don't actually own your car anymore. The manufacturer retains ownership of the software that makes that car work. and you can't have access to it even though you paid tens of thousands of dollars for that vehicle in the first place. The best example i can think of as to why we need bills like these, is John Deere. The stuff they are doing to farmers is just egregious. It's downright evil in my opinion. Farmer's have had to learn how to become computer hackers and commit software piracy just to be able to do simple repairs on their own tractors. Moving a combine from a farm to a dealership is very expensive and can take days. If something as basic as a GPS modual fails, sure you can easily bolt on a new one. But it wont work until you spend thousands of dollars and two weeks of your time shipping that equipment to a John Deere dealer to program the stupid thing. Two weeks could mean you've just lost your entire crop. Plus the cost of shipping and repairing. This can bankrupt a farmer. This is what we're talking about here. I'm using farm equipment as an example here because this Right to repair bill didn't start with Automotive. Right to repair spans across the entire tech industry. The Automotive sector is one of the last groups to get on this train. But it's all part of the same problem. That's the real issue we are talking about here. And i think you've totally missed the entire point of this bill. I agree with you 100% about not trusting governing bodies and wanting less regulation, But in this particular case i think some legislation is needed, because it's already been a problem for so many. This bill needs to pass. While you're perfectly within your rights to have your opinion, You're just wrong on this one, because you've missed the entire premise of the bill. You've totally misunderstood the basis for this bill and why it was brought forth in the first place. That's why i think you're wrong on this one.
It's not in the "future" its happening NOW! You keep saying that they can't stop you from installing a part and that you can install any part you want, but that's not true. You haven't worked on newer cars. Everything is on the car is so software dependent, that you have to reprogram everything to get it to work. Even simple stuff like gauges. If you throw on a new gauge cluster, it won't work unless you reprogram car to get it to recognize the new cluster. Watch Hoovie's Garage. Everything is software copyrighted nowadays. John Deere will shutdown your tractor if you don't use John Deere services or parts.
I understand some of what you say, but I don’t agree.
If a company wants to not allow you work on or have whatever company you want to work on it, don’t buy it, and let the market work it out. But, like 70% of the population is absolute morons who do whatever their phone or tv tells them to do so could quickly be in a spot where there’s no more independence mechanics because they can’t work on vehicles..
I don't understand your argument that it will increase costs to the manufacturers. I only states that the owner of the car has the right to get the tools and data to repair or modify their cars. Imagine you not being able to do what you do when you have to have GM's permission before you do anything.
Going from car videos to basically conspiracy theory videos lately, but I’m sorry you lost a subscriber now.
That bill is lame. I thought right to repair had to iPhones and John Deer tractors snowmobiles and outboard motors. I feel bad for the farmers that own John Deer harvesters. A sensor goes bad and a warning light comes on and the harvester goes in to limp mode then a service tec has to come out to change sensor that the farmer could of changed in 10 min. Worst case there is no road service tec and they have to take the head off the machine pay to have it hauled on a lowboy with a wide load permit to John Deer. From what I understand John Deer and IPhone are the big money behind fighting against right to repair and looks like they got themselves out of this one. That is most likely why the bill does not make since anymore. The U S car companies don't care because they do most of this already.
They are covered by it, they are manufacturers and this bill forces them to allow you access which is exactly the problem with John deer
Unfounded. Period. This is good for the customer long and short term. Its the one bipartisan bill thats a good compromise. This will drive prices down and prevent monopolies.
It makes it harder for new manufacturers to get into the market
@@CooperBogetti But it also protects buyers of those products, Imagine you just bought a Fisker Ocean right now, You're screwed. This could help those customers, as well as potentially helping the manufacturers in the long run because the customers won't be as trigger shy buying a startup because there can be a network to support. I agree, lets look at this with a big microscope, especially the government part, but I fear the future is just as bad when a manufacturer can block fixes after the warranty is up.
Why any educated buyer would buy one is beyond me. That's on them to live with a bad choice
@@CooperBogetti So why any educated person decided to become a new manufacturer is beyond me. That's on them to live with their bad choice. You see how stupid your own arguments sound?
Over regulation is the reason new manufactures can't get off the ground. Fisker never cared about cars just money and that weeded them out
We got similar here in Sweden, really good! And prohibiting, i.e., Tesla from dirtbag moves like Apple did on Iphones (locking down repairs to applestores ONLY). Also this ensure you can use multi brand shops to be able to repair any vehicle, and you don't risk getting slammed by some "manufacturor/reseller-specific" crazy costs due to they have restricted the access to be able to charge crazy money for stupid stuff.
Problem is its a very anti free market idea to tell a business how to operate
@@CooperBogettiits also anti free market to prevent wholeseller from buying parts to fix items so you can only go to apple to fix them or buy a new pc when it could be fixed for 30 bucks
@@CooperBogetti what does it mean when businesses have more rights than people?
If I have a business I should be able to sell to or not to anyone I want
@@CooperBogettiso a business can sell me a product. Then if it breaks and I request the parts to fix it you can tell me no? Therein lies the problem
I am always interested to hear your opinion, Cooper.
Watch Louis Rothman, he's the most truthful and unbiased on this issue. It's not that the manufactures will need to spend money to comply, it's that they spend a ton of money and effort to make it impossible for you not to use them. The same way you can't change your own cell phone battery anymore. There will be a day very soon where without this you will not be able to tune your car or even access the computer.
How can he be unbiased? I like his videos but he's not unbiased
@@CooperBogetti I guess if you mean he is pro right to repair that would make him biased. He however gives examples of happening in the real world today, manufactures restricting or prohibiting your ability to repair or alter a product you bought and own. Apple computer is a perfect example of what happens if you let manufacturers trample on this right, he's built a very successful business sticking his finger in the eye of Apple, saving consumers devices Apple said had to be replaced, restoring data Apple said couldn't be, fixing issues Apple wanted the price of a new device for at the cost of just a few dollars.
Rossman is as biased as they come. At least get his name right.
@@h445 Oh Damn! Look I triggered the spelling police🤣.
Gotta disagree with ya on this one coop. Think you completely missed to mark.
Everything being up for interpretation is the point. I don’t care that gm sells tools at a price they deem reasonable when the same act says others can make said tool. Example- your l5p, you need a gm mdi to work on it, or efi live, hptuners, autel, snap on, shit even $20 foxwell Amazon tools will do what you need. And that’s the point….they can’t make things proprietary. They’re not saying every manufacturer has to implement backup repair options, they’re merely saying they can’t make it impossible for others to figure out. Companies like hpt have pc’s running code 24/7 to crack newer controllers as they get rolled out….look how long it took for c8 corvette tuning to come out and still the tcm is wonky to write. This bill prohibits companies from putting those barriers up in the first place
Most of the barriers are because of the EPA. A lot of people avoid the new stuff because of the barriers so they will feel how it hurts them without government intervention
I see a lot of comments saying the same thing (and I agree). Best advise, talk to Brent from PFI speed about this(He has been affected by these bills not being in place). You have to ask yourself where right to repair stands right now? Currently this isn't affecting you, but there are to many companies out there that will not allow the everyday person repair their own motor vehicles/equipment that they have purchased. These companies will not sell parts to individuals, only sell them to authorized OEM retailers/Repair and do not allow aftermarket like Motion Raceworks to create /sell an equal or better part. I love that your looking into issues that affect a lot of people. Instead of Disagree with everything try Question Everything and talk with your Friends in the Industry to be as well educated as you can be.
Why shouldn't a business be allowed to sell to or not to whoever they want? This is over regulation, exactly what he has been fighting
McDonald’s ice cream machines are always down because 1 company has to do all the repairs and maintenance as part of the agreement with McDonald’s.
Why would they make that deal?
That’s the point coop why would we make it so only one company could maintain stuff
McDonald's made that deal that's just dumb business.
@@1992djg mcdonalds built their business on consistency and known quantities. same cheese, same meat, same potatoes, same ice cream.
Among the companies listed here, Samsung is one of the worst right now. iFixit just ended a deal with them over there shady policies. Glued down modules instead of individual components, they want the IMEI for every device that wants the parts annual demand the documented destruction of a user's device if they choose not to repair, and that's just the start of it. And yes I know Samsung isn't manufacturing cars but it's all relative
So best to not buy anything Samsung sounds like
Yet another reason I wouldn’t take $50,000 for my 04 Silverado tomorrow. It’s got 230,000 miles and I know everything about it and it’s easy to work on. But the man will make me get rid of it at some point. I got 10-15 years left in me hopefully it won’t happen before I’m dead!!
I have the same truck and will never let it go.got rid of the factory computer, installed a Holley Terminator x and can tune it to run cleaner than stock.cam,heads, intake and 500 HP running cleaner than it did the day it was new.the government is killing our country....🏁thanks coop
The dealer only parts is already in effect for John Deere machinery. Let’s say a $30 sensor dies, you can get the part through the dealer but you have to wait for a Deere tech to come out to your broken machine in the mile of harvest to program the part. It may be 3-4 weeks. Or in the case of the medical profession lets say a $400 electric motor on an examination table goes bad. They don’t have to allow you to purchase it but will sell you another $%0k table.
And that's all bad businesses practice I agree. They shouldn't do that and should be avoided if they do that
You’ve missed the mark bad here, Coop. You need to do a lot of real reading on right to repair and right of ownership. You aren’t understanding the issues, or the concerns. It isn’t about government regulations. It is about keeping the manufacturer from screwing us further.
Is it more regulation? Yes or no. Not that hard for me to decide if I agree
Other laws being bad (and there are a ton like CAFE, etc) are not a reason for this to not pass. I want OEMs to be able to make simpler vehicles and be required to make them serviceable. Keep this and throw out the other trash we have to deal with. This addresses the serviceability, but the real fight is everything else.
Any time the government believes they can control business is bad
The vehicle manufacturers should give the EPA a big F.U. And start making cars and trucks that are simple and serviceable without all the mandatory equipment that causes the technical repairs.
We wouldn't be in this situation if government left us alone
Also not the hugest fan of regulations, but to give credit where it's due, those regulations are what keep independent shops running. If manufacturers had their way, you would never get that part off the shelf at the auto store and fix it at your house or the shop up the street, only at the dealership. Tesla has proven that part. 9x out of 10, regulations driving prices up are due to companies throwing a hissy fit that they can't have their way
You think that's true? The amount of cars in the world they can't just not sell parts to people
@@CooperBogetti again I would fall back to the Tesla model but yeah, I thoroughly believe what I said. Examples are everywhere in other industries without such regulation. The John Deere situation for example. It's the sort of thing that if they thought they could get away with it in the fifties and sixties, they would have tried. But instead of setting the trend, they are catching up as quick as they can to follow it
Also, carry over that last statement about so many cars in the world they can't just sell parts, but apply that to electronics and that's exactly where we are right now with that
Yet we keep buying apple even if we don't agree with them.
@@CooperBogetti that's why I haven't bought an apple product, and I've recently moved on from Samsung. I know not everybody sticks to that but where I can, I will and I do
I just want to say I love your content but I think you really need to read into this bill a lot more. If it does not pass it's going to eliminate any aftermarket not right now but eventually it will. As a farmer it is so hard to work on your own equipment. I'd love to have a full conversation with you about this. Actually inform you where does Bill started and why.
Regulation is bad for business, in turn that's bad for the consumer
I don't think you have the right view on this, Coop. You're essentially arguing against my right to be able to repair my own car equitably--ostensibly arguing against _your_ right to be able to repair _your_ own car equitably.
We have the right to, but a private business should have no legal obligation to help
gonna have to disagree with you here right to repair is always necessary to block any sort of right to repair basically just allows large companies to close systems to basically make it so the consumer hardly owns what they purchased basically just allows every car company to become ferrari. do anything to the car they dont like welp they can see it in the computer and now your car is a brick. any right to repair act is inherently good for the consumer.
But we vote with our wallets in a free market. Keep the door closed so government isn't involved and we can push manufactures to do what we want by buying what we agree with
So the only reason you don’t like this is because you don’t want more government involvement…. Sometimes, and granted it may be on very few occasions. Some of the government is looking out for us.
More regulation is always bad for a competitive market
The right to repair should exist. I don’t think this video can fully encompass all aspects only using the automotive industry as an example.
All regulation is bad for businesses, that in turn is bad for us
What makes you a credible source for facilitating a discussion on this subject?
Nothing at all
There are several manufacturers who state very plainly, that if you use any part that is not theirs, or any fluid that is not theirs, your warranty is voided. I had a vehicle i was diagnosing, That the repair turned out to be a software update, and a fluid flush of the transmission. I had to send them to the Dealership because repair shops are barred from accessing updates, and they where charged thousands, for a repair that should have cost $300. Yes, we need this legislation. Ontop of that, most dealerships refuse to work on any vehicle older than 10 years old if it hasn't been religiously serviced by that exact dealer, so an 11 year old car is now destined to be scrap metal simply because i cant access software, and the dealerships refuse to fix them.
But all that is known at time of purchase right?
@@CooperBogetti I would say, 99% of the time no, not unless the buyer is educated enough to ask. And even if it where required to disclose that information, you're still relegating a car that could be fixed for a few hundred dollars in 12 years, to be scrap now because you hold the freedoms of a corporation, higher than that of the consumers.
@@jhowe67thank you sir. That's exactly the point that cooper doesn't get. this is about us regular people having the freedom to do what we want with what we own ! not the government or some big corporation. It's like he's arguing for the opposite of a free market . If you buy something you should actually own it. You don't own something if you can't make decisions about what is rightfully yours
You have the right to do what you want but they don't have an obligation to help you do it
@@michaeltimcisko7828 I purchased this product, i should be able to maintain, fix, or modify how i see fit, not however the manufacturer sees fit. And Barring me from making money because "Its not against the law" to withhold these things, is not very "Free Market". It is however, very borderline on breaking the Anti-Trust laws. (They get around it because technically its the dealerships refusing the repairs, and not the manufacturer, unless its warranty)
642 like 616 dislike... very tight ratio
So... I work on HD equipment. Peterbilt dump trucks suck. They wont release any wiring schematics to people that work on their trucks. The company i work for has tried to get them to do training on their equipment. Other brands offer training
Sounds like Peterbilt sucks and should be avoided. Or you can make a schematic and sell it to others
@@CooperBogetti That's called intellectual property theft..So if you don't want your products reverse engineered, maybe you should just get out of business and not sell products
Strong disagree. people like louis rossman and farmers have been fighting hard to get these bills pased for years, because anything run by electronics and electronics themselves are locked down and cannot be repaired.
Things like new cars have a million modules that have to be programmed with software that costs your firstborn child just to have it for a year. The country needs bills like this.
John deere revenue is down and layoffs are happening after pulling this kind of shit on farmers. Looks like they can handle it without government regulations.
@@CooperBogetti I would encourage you to look I to the history of right to repair bills and the m&m warranty act. Corporations blame these things on the market. Never themselves. I don't like "big government" but in this case, it needs to happen. Enjoy buying your $5k scan tools.
Right to repair needs to happen cooper it's not just cars it's everything Inc phones pc's lappy the lot
Strongly disagree. As I don't live in the US, it doesn't affect me but I hope you get to enjoy the benefits of the the right to repair. We've had it in the UK since 2021 and on the whole, it's a positive thing.
It will absolutely limit competition in the car market all regulation does
@@CooperBogetti It absolutely doesn't limit anybody, it stops the big boys from having it all their own way.
You said in your video that you are mistrustful of governments and legislation, which is fine, but you implied that big corporations are better... A vote can take care of one, the other will do whatever it needs to do to grow the $$' ££'s. Neither cares about you but Governments need your backing once every few years.
the average person should not be encouraged to repair their own vehicle if it contains complex electronics or conducting repairs incorrectly can result in the harm of other people. but absolutely there should never ever be a restriction on trained professionals repairing and replacing parts, apple and tesla are forcing this bill to be necessary through corporate greed.
even though this will open up the world to shoddy repairs done by people who arent trained, that is still better than allowing monopolized repair policies that exploit consumers
The only one that knows what is best for the business is the business not the legislators
@@CooperBogettito an extent, if knowledgeable professionals in a industry are advising them on unsafe or dangerous practices then yes the legislature will know better then the business or company.
There's far to many examples of companies or industries being allowed to self regulate things like safety, material handling and disposal and having entire factories blow up or thousands of workers and people living close by having exposures to substances that cause cancers or dramatically shorten people lives and degrade ecosystems. Management in companies with poor morals and incentives to make all the wealth they can have done horrible things that is good for the company...but no one else.
Companies did try to find a way around it. Volkswagen Dieselgate cost them $30 billion.
Cooper when it cost you a 1000.00 fee just to tell you what is wrong with ur new vehicle..which is exactly what john deere is doing right now...and tesla can refuse to sale your parts to fix your own vehicle?
So why do people keep buying them?
Because Tesla.....as far as Deere cause loyalty mostly... The biggest problem with Deere is this ...if you have a sensor go bad on ur corn harvester head on ur combine you have to have a tech come out scan and replace the sensor...half a day down time in a very time sensitive job...now if your area doesn't have a Deere tech then u have to take your combine head off put it on the trailer haul it to the dealer to get it fixed and that process would cost you days..
I get it it sucks, but just like the farmer wants the government out of his farm the auto industry deserves the same.
I think you missed the mark on this.
I don't think you can get a car the last ten years that doesn't have Bluetooth connection.
That can be used for car info.
And GM already has OnStar they can use that also.
I don't see where the bigger car costs would come from.
It's almost like if the car is 'e-mailing' information to the manufacturer anyway, the car would now need to CC the owner, too. No added cost.
so cars are just going to end up like the Iphone, just throw it away and buy a new one lmao!!!!
They already are
" anti free market" as you cover a topic that literally kills after market companies who make OE replacements. My brother in christ. Think a little broader
The market becomes less competitive when you over-regulate it so it's not a free market.
@@CooperBogetti again, you are calling this a regulation when businesses, automotive in this case, are trying to regulate who can and can't work on their stuff. I'm still not sure how you're pro letting manufacturers lock you out of your vehicle or making it costly to work on your own vehicle. This bill in a few words says " you're not allowed to force customers to over pay for bespoke tools or locked software so that the money is funneled into yourselves". This bill is good for tuners, shade tree and small mechanic business owners, customers, you name it. Your only reservation as far as I can tell is that calling this regulation in your mind puts this in the same branch as cash for clunkers or EPA stuff. This isn't. This is literally a regulation to prevent regulation. Car companies were trying to shut out guys like you and I. How many engineering memes have we seen? That shows that they've already tried engineering impossible designs for us to not be able to work on. Long winded. I'm sorry but Louis Rossman has actually probably lobbied for this so hit him up. He's very reachable on RUclips. Don't take fact and replace it with speculation. You didn't even have the tin foil hat on ;)
Damn it. Also..... How free is the market if your shut out competitors by locking people out of software or create a tool that required a patent and make it illegal to sell to somebody else to take something like a timing chain off? Free market is also free competition
I don't think this will go the way you think it will. At all..
Crazy how many people support more government regulation
Isn't this because of tesla and tractors like case.
Coup... just stop man. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you can still look really silly.
I'll stand by my anti-big government beliefs
Stop telling people to agree with what you believe in. Everyone is allowed to make up their own truth it's 2024 😎🤣
That's all fair points. Some counterpoints to consider:
To the "small companies can't compete" aspect, with many regulations, there's a size cap on it, the same can be changed in the bill here, to make it so the company only has to do this if they sell XYZ number of units per year. This way it doesn't stifle small businesses, and large businesses can probably adapt fairly easily.
Regarding the safety concerns, I don't support laws for seat belts and stuff, but I think regulations for tire quality for example are a good thing. Yeah, we can say as car guys "I wouldn't buy this tire if it's not safe for my family", but what happens to the single mom who takes her minivan into Joe's garage and they sell her some bullshit brand of tire and there's no tire requirements in the US and she dies? Who's on the hook for that? Just her fault she didn't do her brand research? Or what if she has a blowout and kills some innocent bystander? I feel like some of those regulations serve to help people who have no understanding of cars. They should be able to buy a tire and know that it's made with *SOME* bare minimum of quality that it won't blow up on the way home and kill them.
Yeah originally this was introduced as a bill to MAKE heavy equipment dealers to allow there buyers to repair and more importantly have access to the computer systems on these pieces of heavy equipment, well all of them small or large. They have a proprietary operating system on there computers system that ONLY the equipment dealers have access to or authorized dealers of such. As far as car manufactures, they do as well, like Dodge Ford Chevy and so on and on.
This Bill was aimed more at Tractor Manufacturers. I am not talking about damn little Lawn Mower tractors. I am talking about the $250K- $ 1 million+ Farm Tractors. Also, This ESPECIALLY applies to Electronics. Think Phones, TVs, Washers and Dryers. Consumer Products is what it is about. You should be able to work and FIX your own shit if you are capable! Just like you said... Granted not everyone can or will do this. This Bill helps small repair shops and individuals like me. Automotive, Farming, Electronics, anything you buy. You should be able to order repair parts! This is how ridiculous this gets. My 1995 Amana Digital Washer and Dryer combo. I used to build circuit boards for 16 years, so I knew what the replacement parts should cost. I had a small relay the size of a couple of Legos. The first time I called around, The Appliance repair shops would ONLY SELL me a $350 circuit board. I troubleshot it to the relay. Only one appliance repair shop would sell me just the relay, for the cheap price of $50. I bought three and had them delivered two-day shipping for?..... Get this..... Are you ready? Less than $15!!! 80% of that cost was the shipping! The relays themselves were only a total of about $3.50! The shipping was triple what the relays actually cost. Also, The Bill allows people access to BOMs (Bill of Material), Schematics, and repair manuals! How much do you spend on the manuals for your newer vehicles? You used to be able to go to the library and check out the repair manuals. Can you do that now? Yeah, I didn't think so! Can you find a manual on how to repair YOUR washer and dryer? You're going to spend a couple hundred to have someone come and LOOK at them. Then they charge the shit out of you for replacing parts that could cost you only a few dollars, Then they charge the hell out of you for labor at $100/hr! My mom's Fisher & Paykel Dryer started squeaking and making all kinds of not-good noises. She was quoted $150 for the tech to come and Look at it and diagnose the problem. Then add on prices of the parts and $150 hr labor because it was not a popular brand like Maytag. I bought a bearing repair kit for $70, and it took me about 8 hours to disassemble, replace, and assemble the dryer. Because I had no access to repair manuals. Plus this was a top loader that spun like a front loader!! Well that will last her another 25 years and she is 85!!!!
So do you not drive anymore?
This comes more from farmers than vehicle owners. The fact the government took it and turned it around 100% and made it apply more so to vehicles by nature rather than equipment and such. If you’re Deere tractor throws a code for a sensor gone bad. Even one that has nothin to do with the engine, the machine won’t function. Now you have to have a Deere certified mechanic / representative come out to make said repairs or simply wipe a code. You can’t even hook up a computers to the dam thing even if you had the right cables and software. It’s locked out. That’s where this bill came to light. Sad it’s been so fucked off.
That can’t be all the pages to that bill. Most bills now are thousands of pages. 1996 sounded great with obd2 being standard, but it was for emissions. You still can’t do anything with a scan tool unless you pay for this and that and a subscription for this and that. A long time ago, every car came with a repair manual. Can you even request a repair manual if you buy a new car? I asked a dealership certain torque specs on rod bolts and they or the mechanic wouldn’t give me an answer.
I’ll have to watch the ron paul video on monopolies, i know our founders were against them. With regulations though, just look at wall st. and silicone valley, most bigger companies just buy smaller companies that are competitors. The whole john deere bs and how car manufacturers are really trying to lock consumers out of repairing their own car and collecting their data with their bluetooth radio tech is annoying and shouldn’t be happening, but more laws probably won’t fix it. I mean, if the current regulations weren’t in place that drive car prices up, plus inflation which makes everyone have to find ways to make more money, then car manufacturers would probably still be satisfied with the way things used to be and building cars that were meant to last.
Cadillacs had an OBD II reader built into the radio from about 1993 through about 2006. This reader provided OBD codes by module, including hidden codes (from problems that weren't current when the module was interrogated). With this interface, you could clear codes, pair key fobs with the car, and perform many maintenance and customization operations, and all this was in the factory shop manuals from Helm, Inc. Most of this is what the Right to Repair act requires. Per-unit cost of manufactured vehicles was tiny, because, well, it's just software in one of the modules, operated through entertainment system buttons and messages over the modified CAN bus.
Simply disagree. I'd like to be able fix the things I own thanks.
Same, but this isn't the way to do it
@@CooperBogettithen which way is it? You versus Big Corporate? In this case government does need to step in.
Vote with your wallet
So in regard to vehicles we never got here… it is my firm belief that people have a fantasized vision of what it would be like to get all these “cheap” vehicles like Kei trucks for a fraction of the cost of something like a half ton Silverado. And I agree that it would be great to get a truck for 1/10 the cost of a new half ton. Vehicle pricing is beyond anything the average person can ever hope to afford these days.
But getting back on track… These vehicles are such that they’re NOT at all comfortable in any way shape or form. They’re not even remotely close in capability or capacity to even an old S-10 from the 80s. And you mentioned safety of your family. If that’s your concern. You should know that 90 percent of the vehicles we don’t receive here in the states from overseas are largely due to crash and SAFETY testing regulations. EPA and emissions definitely have a part in it but if it’s that big of a deal. They’ll just partner with some other known manufacturer that already has EPA approval. It’s much harder to reengineer a chassis and body to pass crash tests than to swap out an engine for an EPA compliant engine.
Was this dude homeschooled??
Why do you ask?
@@CooperBogetti lack of critical thinking. It's a skill that is rarely taught in the homeschool environment, and you're definitly suffering from that here brother. The "man" ain't always out to get you Coop.
@@64Pete Congrats you let them elite school into a straw man. Pay your taxes and pretend to be free. Got to love American's 💪
Coop this bill was directed almost entirely at the heavy machinery side of vehicles! Not passenger vehicles....people like John deere and Kubota and caterpillar....have been for years locking out owners from their system they own! Pls I encourage you go do more research on this bill except add farm equipment to your Google search in regards too! It does apply to very few I mean maybe 2 or 3 passenger car manufacturers....but this bill is in bulk a farm and implement bill!
Louis Rossmann pushed hard to get this thing to notice, targeting Apple and John Deer among others...you probably know of him but if not check him out. Yes, there are way too many regulations clogging up the system. But...this is ONE time we SHOULD make regs to protect our rights to own and repair our machines.
Cooper, this law is designed to stop manufacturers from monopolizing your ability to maintain your car at a reasonable price! Tesla is one of the worse by over charging for repairs! As far as the regulation on cars, you have no choice but to. Once I purchased a vehicle I don’t think a manufacturer has the right to tell me what kind of oil I must use, maintenance items I must use… and to force me to only be able to get my car repaired by the dealer! Private repair shop must have access to information on these cars to repair them! Not passing this law will let manufacturers take even more money from you that currently is at a exhorbanant amount, pricing for new cars is already ridiculous! And we don’t need repair cost are out of control because of manufacturer wanting to monopolize repairs,by not sharing technology information for reproduction of replacement parts. This is nothing new! As many manufacturers try stop information from being supplied to the aftermarket, again forcing a monopoly of repair parts and repair facilities. Passing of this kind of law also makes performance parts available… with out this kind of law being passed your ability to purchase third party racing and performance parts would be practically reduced to no parts, or for any manufacturer wanting to develop any of these kind of parts. This would essentially eliminate automotive sports of most any type… l do believe our government has a history of butting in sometimes were they probably don’t need to be, stopping the manufacture from monopolies on parts and repair must be something that must be controlled! As car prices and repair prices cannot be allowed to run rampant.fair market prices can only be justified if the manufacturer has guidelines to follow, as they have proven they will allow greed to drive their business model. There Is nothing wrong with making a fair profit, but today’s companies are not profit driven… they are greed driven which is currently causing the inflationary prices we are facing today! When manufacturers stop overcharging, the Government most likely will back off on involvement in passing legislation to control this kind of greed that causes this kind of legislation, that’s being implemented.
Look up the John Deere lawsuits. The farmer can't repair their own tractors or get into the computer system and a repair man won't come out to you, so you have to have your combine harvester take to the service centre at your cost. The farmers started to hack the tractor computer with a chip but this null and voids the warranty.
Having 1 tool that the company owns and no-one makes to get into your engine and making the $10000 just shouldn't be allowed but it has happened. You should be told if someone is looking at the systems of your car.
“Fair reasonable cost” coming from the govt and the manufacturer that enforced and supplied $60k basic ass cars these days. Back in the day a 1/2” drive 12mm 12 pt honda head socket was $130 now its $20.
The manufacturers have denied warranty on engines because of non use of a manufacturers oil filter and oil so that part of it would be a nice help because some companies oil/fuel filters are stupid expensive vs the same brand that supplied them to the manufacturers
Any time new laws are put forth you have to look at the overall potential benefit good or bad without thinking it should be more perfect. Because they never are. The point of this bill is to prevent OEM’s and portions of government from limiting your ability to work on your own vehicle whether you choose a shop to do the work or do it yourself. And that is the coming trend. OEM’s want to restrict access to data and want to limit what can be done to their proprietary systems. Governments like California and many other states want to totally limit what you can do to your personal vehicle and use pollution as their justification. You are right that this bill is not perfect but everyone should consider what it’s overall goal is and weigh the benefits versus what is lacking in light of the coming future of auto repair and performance upgrades. The future is already here. It’s not just a few new Corvettes running around with Over the Air (OTA) communication to the OEM. Most new cars today have OTA capability and get software updates pushed out to them.
It's definitely something I haven't thought about. It is definitely something to consider that many of these regulations biggest problems are more about what they leave out, then what's in them. For example consider what they did with the "Clean Air Act" that started us on the trajectory we're currently on in the automotive performance industry. It was all of the sudden "Reinterpreted" by the Government and weaponized against us. It's good to stay skeptical, because we could very well be playing into the hands of the very companies we think we're finally getting ahead of. We don't have to agree, but we should all realize that this could absolutely be detrimental to all of us
I disagree that these are the kind of regulations that will limit the vehicles available to us. Those would be safety and emissions regulations, along with import duties. Yes, regulations do have a cost, but I think the costs of these will be offset by your ability to choose who can repair your vehicle and what brands of parts can be used. As far as the "reasonable cost" portion, that will vary so much that you can't put down any numbers in the law. But, we all know that if they're charging you $10k to look at your vehicle data, that's not reasonable. This will prevent gross abuse of pricing to limit our repair options. It's not perfect, but I believe it's much better than doing nothing, and I don't think perfect is possible. We do need to read these SEMA supported lows before blindly supporting them. I've seen some that I thought harmed us in the long run.
The reason for the Right To Repair Act is for us in the Independent repair shops. It is more for the manufactuers to open up their knowledge and make it available for the smaller mom and pop repair shops. Right now for me to work on a 2018 and up Dodge, Jeep, Chrysler, Ram car or truck. I have to subscribe to them to access the obdII info just to find out why the check engine light is on. It is a per car base as well. Not a monthly fee.
I know this is a car channel, but have you heard anything about a proposed bill for table saws? The lobbyists want Congress to mandate that all table saws implement SawStop technology. Sounds good, but the reality is some companies will just stop making them, while the cost for the consumer will double for the companies that will still produce them. Obviously it's a lot more complicated than that and I'm horrible about trying to relay these things.
So this must be just a USA thing?
In Australia any one can repair anything. You can go anywhere to get parts and fix it yourself or any workshop. Same goes for agriculture equipment, we can buy parts from the dealers directly or aftermarket parts and fit/ repair ourselves. Sure at times parts can be hard to come by but that’s mostly because we import basically everything into Australia. But as far as right to repair Ive never come across any issues as of yet.
Only thing that comes close is when a vehicle is under warranty you can only claim things under warranty through a dealer but that kind of makes sense though
lol, I honestly can't even i got to 15 minutes and heard "who's gonna foot the cost of this" bro the customer has been eating the cost for 20 years with 10000% markups, i mean just look at the price of a windshield because every manufacturer has a slightly different curve or shape to every single one all because they claim flat windshields are so much more dangerous. bad take bro, this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes all this bs we became a throwaway society because of this.
We already have right to repair anything we own. I do think we should be able to buy any needed parts but I don’t expect the companies to provide us with schematics etc. They should have to allow aftermarket parts as long as compatible just like should already be covered by the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act.
We already have a standardized way to get to all the information our vehicles have and/or produce. It's the OBDII port! Sounds like they want to ensure that (or an app) does not go away.
If I produce a car, anyone can copy my parts and sell them cheaper. It keeps that. If nobody reproduces those parts, because I'm a small manufacturer, that's not on me.
Respectable view on this. I’ll have to submit my word on being against the bill. A good thing to do would be to tell people how they could contact their representative and say no to this bill.
I’m on the fence for sure what I don’t understand is didn’t they regulate that manufactures had the right to do all of these things at one point (only allowing us to buy certain parts obd ports etc) and didn’t they put things in place for manufacturing to be this way? (Actual question I’m asking) and if so couldn’t they just remove these regulations and solve the problem without adding more regulations. More government control and regulations is never the answer I feel also. Get off my back and out of my pocket!
Usually when the government sticks their nose in shit, it turns out for the worst in the end.
I'm not saying this will be the same, I'm only saying thats usually the outcome. It sounds great and could possibly be great, but will it stay like that?
Coopers one point really hit home to me. More regulation, more big brother government. But hey, I'm biased. They never want whats in our best interest.
Idk what side of this I'm on.
I'll continue to buy older used vehicles and just keep mine running for as long as i possibly can.
Commenting to remind myself to come back after reading the bill and to increase viewer interaction for the almighty youtube algorithm.
However, at first look it sounds like this is at worst an effort to keep things where they're at, to prevent OEMs from further locking out the owner and smaller mechanic shops from effecting repairs on vehicles. It sounds like the bill is laying out in not so unclear terms what the manufacturers can and cannot do and "shall" and "shall not" do, thus giving the consumer an avenue of reprise if the manufacturer doesn't comply with the bill if it gets passed.
I will read the bill myself and comment again if/when my view and understanding changes.
Hi Cooper, would love the opportunity to chat about why the proposed law benefits drivers and why the enforcement part is critical. Can we chat?
This kind of regulation leeds to better products that can be maintained easier and last longer, basically guarantees good bang for buck and easy to maintain tech. If critical components on any product break, then the replacement parts, literature and custom tools or software to fix what broke has to be available, easy to get and not locked behind BS or ridiculous prices certain companies do to force consumers to buy a entirety new of whatever it was that broke (phones, computers, appliances, cars, etc.).
Some companies absolutely want total control over their products even though someone now owns their product, and have shown they'll do many anticonsumer things to guarantee it's hard to maintain or fix the product. This sort of regulation is being forced into being a thing that is needed to protect consumers from shady company practices.
I can think of one regulation that worked out really well 1996 OBD2 standardized OBD1 every company had a different setup I think this is just trying to guarantee that they keep our code readers able to help even now that the whole thing is a giant computer
As a diesel mechanic light and medium duty. I'd definitely love more affordable more universal and clear tech access. I don't think it would add to much cost to a over all price if left manageable. I do agree big gov should stop messing about. However, manufacturers have made it incredibly expensive to see their hidden issues, much less to repair said issues. I do feel like manufacturers will get the hint if they try and offset this cost to much in an overall price that less and less cars are going to be In demand and be somewhat forced to make them more affordable. But cars and trucks do seem to be getting more and more expensive as living expensive rise aswell.
Technicially all cars in the U.S are american made. There are really no more imports.
Subaru is a japanese car, however since a lot of americans wanted subarus, fuji heavy industries decided to build a plant here in America and then hired americans. They did this to save on costs on shipping cars here. So now we have to suffer on qualility control, just because the parent company wanted to save costs on shipping cars here. America has become a joke.