Crazy when I think of the team you had in 2001/2002/2003 genuine fucking superstars on the pitch. I was 31 when you came back to the Prem, I was fucking 13 when you got relegated. Everybody is terrified of doing a Leeds
"Let's see where we are in 5 (years)" Brian Clough was on his way to winning the First Division Championship , and back to back European Cups , and Revie stabbed England in the back for money
There's more to it than that. England were very unlikely to qualify for the world cup and the FA were already preparing to sack Revie and the FA chairman hated him, he got a job offer from the UAE that might not have been there after he was sacked from England so he did what any reasonable person would have done and took the job while it was there.
True. Looks the spitting image of him! And he nailed the accent and mannerisms. In fact, unless Colm is from Middlesbrough I'd say he did a better Don Revie than Michael Sheen did Brian Clough - and that's saying something!
CallitHowISeeIt will it hell. Bloke has a statue next to the stadium and is adored even today by Leeds fans. Don Revie’s Leeds were by far one of the greatest if not the greatest team of the 60s and 70s. Cloughie was a homophobic drunk.
Max Power II and this ladies and gentlemen is were all Leeds fans refuse to take the Don Revie blinkers off. Only at Leeds is Revie held in such high esteem.
Back in the day when England could produce a successful manager (tho even then the Scots were better). Why is it that there are so few decent English managers ?
As a leeds fan myself you are right it's one of them one can really match cloughie and is always talked about but now leeds are in the prem were relevant again and started talking about the revie years but revie was good for use and that was it aha
I've seen the actual interview several times. It was nowhere near as confrontational as that. They spoke their minds but there was also a great deal of mutual respect.
Agreed. Some of the lines are lifted directly from the real interview, but the film - seemingly intentionally - provides no context in order to make Clough seem far more arrogant, and disconnected from reality, than he actually was. He's not the only person who gets an unjust treatment but as the "main character" he clearly gets the worst of it. The film-makers may have made an effort to be more fair than the book, but even so it is still only a mildly toned-down adaptation of an unashamedly slanderous work of fiction.
Actually, I thought the real interview was even more dramatic because there was such tension, but it was a quiet tension, not this blow-out, over-the-top nonsense. It's a real shame they didn't try to recreate the interview in the movie -- they missed an opportunity.
As a Liverpool supporter I was stunned and shocked with the way Mr. Clough was treated by the entire Leeds personnel. Mr. Clough was a fantastic Manager and he was never given the chance to prove himself at Leeds. His mistakes were pointed out constantly. Thing is Everyone makes mistakes. I was chuffed that he got got great success with Nottingham Forrest.
"Let's see where we both are in 5 (years)" Clough = Winning the 1st division and european cups Revie = Emigrating the country in disgrace after failing as national team manager
A sad scene in many ways, but this shows how football can, like little else, create passion, emotion and such powerful dynamics in people's professional and personal relationships. Love how that's shown. People really care. Football People care.
Lol the funniest thing was what Clough said was true, everyone connected with football respect and look up to him. Nobody hardly remembers Revie, I wouldn't even know who he was if I hadn't watched this movie.
Mikael Ortmayer 2 Championships, FA Cup, League cup, 2 European trophies. 11 times runners up, never out of the top 4 in 10 years in the first division. longest unbeaten start to a first division season in 70 years in 73-4. O yes Revie was crap, Leave the debate to people who actually KNOW something about football. There's a good chap....
Mikael Ortmayer Won MORE trophies than any other manager in England in those 10 years..Won MORE trophies than any other England ENGLISH Manager .....Six trophies makes a manager GOD these days. You Obviously Don't Like or diddn't think Revie was any good. Facts say otherwise. The Debate has been "fun" Cheers.........
There's dramatisation then there's completely fabricating something. Thats the reason why the book is so hated by many , it makes out that a stubborn and arrogant figure in real life, was in fact a mad man, which just wasn't the case. By all means dramatise but stick to some sort of real life context
There are many inaccuracies. Luton didn't beat Leeds 1-0, the game was a 1-1 draw. Earlier in the film where Taylor tells Clough Derby had beaten Leeds 2-1. That score never occured. In their first season in the First Division, Derby lost away at Leeds 0-2, but won the home game 4-1.
@@garethdwright91 I don't use this film or the book (which my grandad described as "filth"), both clubs are great clubs, Leeds are a hard club whereas I think us are a bit more softer but have a warmth about us. But both are great and the rivalry on our part might be there but I think Leeds would say its not really that intense for them personally,, it sort of reminds me of Leicester with us,, they hate us and want to beat us every time we play them, but we don't really care much for them.
This kind of set up by the Yorkshire Media TV Station needs to be looked into. Brian was royally stiched up and there are laws of coercion to protect people from this. As an England manager that ultimately failed in his job after this (Revie) and as a Forest manager Mr. Clough succeeded does this whole event become somewhat of a non entendre? DRevie ended up as a no-mark and Brian Clough a legend.
@@Forestgravy90 No, it's an adaptation of a fictional novel that is little more than a collection of insults and lies. The director did tone down the original author's bullshit somewhat, but even so it's a film that should never have been made, given the sheer nonsense that the book it is based on presents as historical truth. The successful defamation lawsuits made against the film speak for themselves.
It's amazing the film gets away with the York's tv interview. If you watch the real thing it is Revie that refers to cough only by surname...cloughie calls him Mr Revie.
"Our worst start in 20 years, We are 2nd from bottom" Trust me lads it will get MUCH worse 30 years down the road
It got better 😉
Epic comment
To the joy of us all
Crazy when I think of the team you had in 2001/2002/2003 genuine fucking superstars on the pitch. I was 31 when you came back to the Prem, I was fucking 13 when you got relegated. Everybody is terrified of doing a Leeds
@@marcmarsden1165 ha, not for long
"Let's see where we are in 5 (years)" Brian Clough was on his way to winning the First Division Championship , and back to back European Cups , and Revie stabbed England in the back for money
There's more to it than that. England were very unlikely to qualify for the world cup and the FA were already preparing to sack Revie and the FA chairman hated him, he got a job offer from the UAE that might not have been there after he was sacked from England so he did what any reasonable person would have done and took the job while it was there.
Revie was a blagger a bully and a bastard
Glad he's mostly forgot by the world outside Leeds and Clough is greatly remembered
"Might be a bit flash for a man out of a job but I've grown to like it "
Colm Meaney is perfect casting as Don.
wow Didnt recognise him till I read your comment; Tx
True. Looks the spitting image of him! And he nailed the accent and mannerisms. In fact, unless Colm is from Middlesbrough I'd say he did a better Don Revie than Michael Sheen did Brian Clough - and that's saying something!
@@thommohawk1216 Colms from Dublin.
@@thommohawk1216 I would agree
Colm Meaney is such a phenomenal talent. He looks and sounded just like Revie.
In a hundred years time people will still talk about Brian Clough. I don’t think the same can be said about Don Revie.
If they do it'll only come up while talking about Cloughie
CallitHowISeeIt will it hell. Bloke has a statue next to the stadium and is adored even today by Leeds fans. Don Revie’s Leeds were by far one of the greatest if not the greatest team of the 60s and 70s. Cloughie was a homophobic drunk.
Max Power II and this ladies and gentlemen is were all Leeds fans refuse to take the Don Revie blinkers off. Only at Leeds is Revie held in such high esteem.
Back in the day when England could produce a successful manager (tho even then the Scots were better). Why is it that there are so few decent English managers ?
As a leeds fan myself you are right it's one of them one can really match cloughie and is always talked about but now leeds are in the prem were relevant again and started talking about the revie years but revie was good for use and that was it aha
I've seen the actual interview several times. It was nowhere near as confrontational as that. They spoke their minds but there was also a great deal of mutual respect.
Yes your totally right
Good lad
Of course. It's a movie.
Agreed. Some of the lines are lifted directly from the real interview, but the film - seemingly intentionally - provides no context in order to make Clough seem far more arrogant, and disconnected from reality, than he actually was. He's not the only person who gets an unjust treatment but as the "main character" he clearly gets the worst of it. The film-makers may have made an effort to be more fair than the book, but even so it is still only a mildly toned-down adaptation of an unashamedly slanderous work of fiction.
Actually, I thought the real interview was even more dramatic because there was such tension, but it was a quiet tension, not this blow-out, over-the-top nonsense. It's a real shame they didn't try to recreate the interview in the movie -- they missed an opportunity.
Funny that Don Revie left the game with shame and clough is a legend
An absolutely brilliant portrayal of Don Revie by the actor who played him, at times he was bang on the accent.
He’s better known as Chief Miles O’Brien in the Star Trek universe!
This was an outstanding performance from Colm Meaney.
Yes he looks like him too
As a Liverpool supporter I was stunned and shocked with the way Mr. Clough was treated by the entire Leeds personnel. Mr. Clough was a fantastic Manager and he was never given the chance to prove himself at Leeds. His mistakes were pointed out constantly. Thing is Everyone makes mistakes. I was chuffed that he got got great success with Nottingham Forrest.
I love this film. The actors were superb, the timing impeccable etc.
This is brilliant acting , almost identical to the real one.
Ollie Wilson rubbish, this is nothing like the actual interview, which was much more civilised.
"Let's see where we both are in 5 (years)"
Clough = Winning the 1st division and european cups
Revie = Emigrating the country in disgrace after failing as national team manager
Because Clough's own career ended on such a high did it? Relegated Forest as a pissed up old drunk, who couldn't even give a coherent interview.
Just like every England manager in 50 years since
How did clough leave? Forrest relegated . Scandals of underhand dealings in transfers of players. Alcoholic.
A sad scene in many ways, but this shows how football can, like little else, create passion, emotion and such powerful dynamics in people's professional and personal relationships. Love how that's shown. People really care. Football People care.
Lol the funniest thing was what Clough said was true, everyone connected with football respect and look up to him. Nobody hardly remembers Revie, I wouldn't even know who he was if I hadn't watched this movie.
Shows how little you know about football then if you don't know who Revie was
dlamiss he was and will forever be a nobody. Nobody gives a crap.
Mikael Ortmayer 2 Championships, FA Cup, League cup, 2 European trophies. 11 times runners up, never out of the top 4 in 10 years in the first division. longest unbeaten start to a first division season in 70 years in 73-4. O yes Revie was crap, Leave the debate to people who actually KNOW something about football. There's a good chap....
dlamiss So in between all that waffling I picked up that he won six trophies?Six trophies isn't exactly something to boast about.
Mikael Ortmayer Won MORE trophies than any other manager in England in those 10 years..Won MORE trophies than any other England ENGLISH Manager .....Six trophies makes a manager GOD these days. You Obviously Don't Like or diddn't think Revie was any good. Facts say otherwise. The Debate has been "fun" Cheers.........
Props to Sheen nailing Clough, but Meaney is spot on as Revie here too
"Let's see where we both are in 5 years."
" Let's see where we BOTH are in five"...
Good acting but this really isn't how it went down. These men had more respect for each other than was depicted in the film.
The greatest manager they've ever had
They had the mannerisms and voices off brilliantly. Colm Meaney in particular did a great job.
at least he still kept hes middlesbrough attitude fuck them
love ya bri clough
What's with all the comments about inaccurate the interview is? It's called dramatisation.
There's dramatisation then there's completely fabricating something. Thats the reason why the book is so hated by many , it makes out that a stubborn and arrogant figure in real life, was in fact a mad man, which just wasn't the case. By all means dramatise but stick to some sort of real life context
difference betwen dramatisation and lying !!!
HAHAHA Leeds kept that secret well hidden!
Colm Meaney did a superb job as Don Revie.
he got a £90000 payoff said as much in his autobiography not £25000
There are many inaccuracies. Luton didn't beat Leeds 1-0, the game was a 1-1 draw. Earlier in the film where Taylor tells Clough Derby had beaten Leeds 2-1. That score never occured. In their first season in the First Division, Derby lost away at Leeds 0-2, but won the home game 4-1.
It's laughable and disgraceful that a bunch of armchair pundits use this film as their primary source for slagging off Leeds United.
I mean I liked slagging off Leeds anyway so this film is a blessing for me as it has made people hate Leeds even more.
Benedict Case Telling that you have to resort to fiction to find a basis for your "slagging off" isn't it.
@@garethdwright91 I don't use this film or the book (which my grandad described as "filth"), both clubs are great clubs, Leeds are a hard club whereas I think us are a bit more softer but have a warmth about us. But both are great and the rivalry on our part might be there but I think Leeds would say its not really that intense for them personally,, it sort of reminds me of Leicester with us,, they hate us and want to beat us every time we play them, but we don't really care much for them.
TheRebel Are you Forest or Derby?
7:25 Was that a fart from Don Revie?
...The line should have been "Brian Howard Clough... remember that name!" Although the look he gives the board conveys that!
This kind of set up by the Yorkshire Media TV Station needs to be looked into. Brian was royally stiched up and there are laws of coercion to protect people from this.
As an England manager that ultimately failed in his job after this (Revie) and as a Forest manager Mr. Clough succeeded does this whole event become somewhat of a non entendre?
DRevie ended up as a no-mark and Brian Clough a legend.
Absolute rubbish.
Clough knew about this before sitting down lol. He wouldn't have agreed to this if he didn't know Revie had been invited.
in the actual interview, the interviewer pronounces revie's name differently, schoolboy error.
I used to like this film but the interview is so different to what happened
Fraser Apps it's a dramatisation not a biopic
@@Forestgravy90 No, it's an adaptation of a fictional novel that is little more than a collection of insults and lies. The director did tone down the original author's bullshit somewhat, but even so it's a film that should never have been made, given the sheer nonsense that the book it is based on presents as historical truth. The successful defamation lawsuits made against the film speak for themselves.
Cough went on to win back to back European cups where revie failed as England manager and left the game in conservatory and disgrace 😂
It felt like they didnt want Clough from the get go so why did they appoint him? I think Leeds brought all of this on themselves.
It's amazing the film gets away with the York's tv interview. If you watch the real thing it is Revie that refers to cough only by surname...cloughie calls him Mr Revie.
The real interview is actually far more entertaining than this.
Nowadays 25 grand pay off would be an insult.
George Wallace yes, the linear nature of time and the change in interest rates.
You could also buy a house for £1,000
0:02 One Don Revie! One Don Revie! There’s only one Don Revie!
2 teams that went backwards leeds and forrest ...i was at the Celtic v leeds game 125000 at the game both teams were great
For certain, after that interview, Brian finished ahead of the field but that was his lowest point...that interview.
Interview never happened this way
Its called drama
@@scottinbristol
it's called lying !!!!
@@simplythebest286 It wasnt a documentary
My god he is revie
Oh Leeds.... hindsight hey 😭
If you lot would have stuck with Brian you would win the European cup.
6;48 colm meaney drops into hid own accent
6:48
Spotted that too haha. The Dubliner in him breaking out
Great acting ❤
Player power is not a new thing!
Two European cups ❤
Imagine if they kept him
the voices at 4:19, 4:49 & 4:56 is my uncle :D
Leeds United going down, down, down and still out of PL.
He got a lot more than £25k
Come with camera and models for photos shoots in beachs of the world....come fo
This is sooo inaccurate! Nothing like the real interview.
Leeds 0 Luton 1…? Not a real result…it was 1-1
This interview ,Revie won but in the real one it was Clough who came off best
This was not how the interview went. "WRONG"............