People who load there AR-15 mags to 29 rounds are mentally ill
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- There are tons of discussions on forums and videos on RUclips about this topic on loading your mags down to 28 or 29 rounds. After many years I have found this practice is totally retarded and useless on modern produced AR-15 and AK type mags along with numerous Glock and other pistol type magazines.
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@@TMHonfire102 gay
Here goes the Grammar police
@@1timerod that’s free education my friend! You’re welcome!
The best part of this video is that you explained yourself in the beginning. If you’ve never experienced a 30 round mag having issues fully seating then it explains a lot about your background.
👍🏻Yep!
Anyone who doesn't load their 30 round AR mags with 34 rounds needs a mental evaluation.
Underrated comment.
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Holy crap… greatness
I legit once accieentally loaded 31 into magpul and it no worky anynmore
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You load 29 rounds so the mag will 100 percent seat in the mag well. Some ARs don't like taking a full mag on a closed bolt. Take one out it never happens again.
Bingo!
@@xxnergi4196 plus it's easier to count to 29 than 30. Haha.
Exactly this. In combat you do what's called admin or tac reloads if you get a chance. The entire opening statement lays out that you can see through peoples experience by what they say... Well said proved lol
Just use pmags and a decent rifle. Problem solved
@@GUARDIAN.13to each his own. Only takes one time for the mag not to seat in a stressful situation and you will load 28 29 rounds for the rest of your life. Magpul makes good shit but when bullets are thumping all around you and your mag hits the ground s.p.o.r.t.s feels like an eternity and all the John wick shit turns into bill and teds.
I load 28. Statistically, How may time is 30 needed. None.
I was deployed to Iraq in 2004 guarding convoys. Carried the M-16A2 and M9. My M-16 mags were always loaded with 27 to 28 rounds because we did have the old junk magazines. No anti tilt follower, worn out springs, and the feed lips had widened. Way too many times I would put a mag into my M-16 and the top round would not strip off. Another note, there was always a M-240 or M-249 nearby, so I was never worried about lack of firepower, so missing 2 or 3 rounds in my weapon didn't bother me as much as the chance of a magazine induced jam. Now that I'm older, wiser, and have access to modern magazines such as the most excellent Lancer Mags, I am finally considering uploading to the full 30 rounds ... kind of. lol
First time your shit don't work is the moment you realize how fucking slow you are. Your fingers are all thumbs and you feel like you are in slow motion but everything around you is at warp speed. War has a fast fucking learning curve.
Fuck the noise and just go straight to 40 round mags. Same length as AK mags, no biggie, and frankly 40 round magpuls cost about the same as 30 rounders.
I filled my coffee cup 3/4 full this morning because I'm tactical like that.
@cokeman2423 BUSTIN
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30 rounds go in 30 round magazines. Silencers are called silencers. The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
Suppressors
@@BoredAmerican Sorry bro, but it's silencer. "Suppressor" only exists as a term INVENTED by boomer American firearm politics just, like other retarded fuddisms such as "modern sporting rifle".
@@ironmatic1 you’re a troll lmao
@@BoredAmerican Stating facts
@@BoredAmerican Maxim Silencer. First commercially available noise reducer made by Hiram himself.
The reason many many combat vets, load their mags to 29 is not due to wear and tear. The reason is like you mentioned is during a true gunfight, and not a range trip or for fun. If you are in the heat of a battle and lets say you get a few seconds of cover. That mag u have left in the gun (maybe has 3 rounds left ect) can be dropped out and a fresh mag put in for top capacity. Doing so in the heat of battle you best damn hope that bolt closes and mag doesnt pop back out. Running 29 lowers that life or death situation of jamming or not ingauging to a much less likely chance. Spring wear has nothing to do with this topic. Ps. Glad your back making vids👍
step one, never load your mags incorrectly--dugan
@ebrandon98 you clearly have no idea what im talking about, and others who basically said the exact thing as i did. Has nothing to do with proper mags, or seating them correctly.
@ebrandon98 You really sound like one of those millennial douchebags that put 30 rounds through their very first owned firearm and now think they are Paul Harrell... You may very well not be that person but when being a toxic little snot that's exactly what you sound like.
@Paul Walker He's by far my favorite "guntuber".
Nah..thats just as dumb
I have literally never heard anyone argue that the springs wear out. It’s all for closed bolt reloads, it’s easier and it depends on your mag well your magazine your ammunition and your boat carrier group as to how hard it is to insert with a fully loaded magazine if you download your magazine it will always go in every single gun every single time smoothly and easily.
100% accurate. It's never been about wearing out the springs. I'd much rather know without a doubt that my mag seated than have that ONE extra round. This is the first video I've watched from this channel, and it'll be the last. I've never seen someone get so upset over this issue. I've also never seen anyone state to load minus one "cause of the spring." If they did, it couldn't have been a very popular channel. The lack of vocabulary and the temperament over such a stupid topic says this channel isn't worth anymore of my time. Haha
@Ryan due to tolerances, it's not always that easy. With a topped-off mag and closed bolt, it can definitely be difficult. In a high stress situation, would REALLY want one more round, or would you want to know without doubt that your mag seated.
@Ryan Slamming it home doesn’t work for every situation, if you wanna thoroughly test you’re equipment and make sure the stuff you have works together then there’s no harm in that. But grabbing a bin full of fully loaded mags and expecting them all to seat on closed bolts isn’t smart.
@@mojoegunner5115 TMHonfire has the mental illness!
Most people, myself included, load 29 rounds so when you do a “tactical reload” the mag fully seats into the rifle. I’ve had my tin mag fall out of my M4 in a shoot house after firing one round, and my Pmag not be able to seat into my ar. So now I run 29 rounds in all my ar 30 round mags, never had the problem again.
you are correct..this guy is an idiot
Try fully inserting the mag. I have no problem like this.
@@jackmehoff2363 That's easy to say when you don't fire your weapon, ever.
Idk what you are saying. I literally have
No problem insterting a fully loaded mag when the bolt is closed. Instead of hitting me with a good reason to not fully load them you hit me with an insult. I bet none of your friends call you out of the blue and you have to call people to talk to them
@@jackmehoff2363 Right.
Ok, I guess I'm going to add 2 more rounds to all of my AR mags now.
There’s a reason the military loads to 28... life or death situations don’t have extra seconds to check mag seating... you want it to secure the first time with the bolt forward on a tactical reload
@@VintageLeftyGuitars this.
@@VintageLeftyGuitars It doesn't make a slight bit of difference when we're talking about modern mags such as pmags or lancers for example. Yes, that rule applies when were talking about older magazines, or mags you are simply unfamiliar with. But if you bought both your mags and your rifle, you should already know weather or not they work with a full 30.
Same goes for a lot of vegans and “woke” people - always pissed of about something and offended about something or on someone’s behalf
I load all my mags till I can't physically force anything in there. It's the same way I treat my wife.
Here's my 2 cents, for military/defensive applications downloading your mags to 28/29 is absolutely valid. The main reason being that it makes it easier to seat the mag when you're topping off the rifle (I hate the phrase "tactical reload"). To address your reasoning, it doesn't make sense to lock the bolt open on an ar 15 in any scenario that you'd be needing to top off a rifle. The whole tapping the bottom of the magazine to ensure it's seated on the other hand is reasonable if slightly unfeasible since you'd be handling to mags with one hand if you're doing a typical "top off" reload. The only magazine I personally have been able to seat on a closed bolt with 30 rounds repeatedly without tapping the base plate is the gen 3 pmag.
Smack that thing
@@ghostlight69420 I believe I addressed that already.
@@hanzenfranzen406 No...you don't understand
Bud if youre reloading then that means the bolt is locked to the read and open. It doesnt matter if its 12 rounds or 30. When you send the bolt home it'll feed it. Closed bolt is where you can debate. If youre worried about a live round in the chamber.... Dont pull the fn trigger. Lol
@@littlebittathisnthatfirear8048 I get the "shoot until you win or until the gun goes empty" mentality. However, I also think that it's better to load the rifle when you want to instead of when you have to. And in that scenario you'd be inserting a magazine on a closed bolt.
what i learned in my time as an oil mercenary is the 28 round idea came from problems of a tactical reload with GI mags. since GI mags didnt have anti tilt followers until recently it would put too much pressure on a fully loaded mag and cause malfunctions. if you are doing that with magpul mags then yes it is stupid.
EDIT: and the new brownell mags. those are so awesome.
Oil mercenary 😂
Cool story, Bro. I think that you meant "oily mercenary."
bullshit....loading to full cap puts out about 20% more stress on the springs/feed lips....that is from the people who make them.
Brownell mags are like those little known secrets that for whatever reason people don't know about. I still prefer plastic mags, but metal mags are ideal for stuffing in bandoliers for situations where you absolutely need to carry as much ammo as you can.
@dayRman nope. Just an uncle sam slave.
And the gas tank and taking a shit analogy doesn’t work because you aren’t in a life or death situation... THATS the point of this... TACTICAL RELOADS IN A LIFE OR DEATH SITUATION
Oh the irony... “I can tell the experience level by how they talk/make their video” 😂😂😂 we can to... now to the facts... anyone talking about wearing a spring out, you’re correct, that’s BS, there’s been 1911s from ww2 found fully loaded and fired out of the dirt... but the “free pass” on its easier to get the mag in? That’s the whole point of 28 over 30, it’s for tactical reloads, which your experience level hasn’t taken you to yet. When you’re in the field in a fire fight, you don’t have time to be double checking if the mag seated or not. You want to throw that thing in and know it’s gonna seat each time, the FIRST time. Different rifles have different tolerances so some will do okay tactical reloading w 30 but a lot of them won’t... why do you think there are so many videos on tactical reloads/28rds and only a few people like this video saying it’s BS?
But nutnfancy told me....
Nutnfancy told me butt sax was not gay.
It’s not as long as you don’t enjoy it
Lol😁 where is that wolf guy, ak47 guy. I remember him back in 2010 youtube. He was a hater of Matt
@@Civiliansoldier762 tacticalgirlfriend enjoys it very much I hear lol
Do you think it’s benis is a commie too?
I've tested this dumb myth. I left two pmags fully loaded for three years. They functioned flawlessly.
For three years, they didn't function at all. That's the real story.
People should go and take a materials science class and learn that steel springs don’t stress relax or exhibit viscoelasticity
@@hitman_s1 go take a materials science class unless you’re too poor and dumb and you’ll understand why you’re wrong
@@hitman_s1 😮😂
One time I thought some of my 30 round magazines had issues loaded to 30 rounds. Turns out I had accidentally loaded 31 rounds. Don't do that and you'll be fine.
LMAO when an odd number of rounds are in a magazine they are staggered up on the left side when an even number of rounds are in it they are staggered up on the right side LOLOL. you gone learn today buddy!
@@Tyrant_Popper That assumption is exactly what got me into trouble. I have some ELander mags with followers that start the stack on the opposite side.
@@timewave02012my elander are like that to, I can load 31 into 3 of them but it doesn’t want to seat in my ar. Those are the only mags I have to count when I load😂
Wait a minute.... New shooter here so cut me some slack, BUT.... I thought the ONLY reason this was done was so there was absolutely no issues when seating a magazine on a closed bolt for what the RUclips gun channel dudes like to call a "tactical reload". I've also heard that when slamming in a 30rd mag on a closed bolt even if it seats absolutely perfect that it will still wear down the feed lips faster than normal.... If what I said is the real reason then is this channel owner trolling here in this video or is he ironically the very person he makes fun of in this video?
Mag gets seated more consistently yes, not sure about the feed lips
I was going to type a really long response to this, but after watching this whole video, I’ve decided it’s not worth my time.
i have never heard it was because it would break the mag i heard it was because it was harder to load on a closed bolt
“Some people don’t know what they’re talking about”
"Gun RUclipsrs don't know what they're talking about"-
Says gun RUclipsr who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Wow, this is a very bad take. Almost idiotic. Got myself a Daniel Defense M4 variant. It WILL NOT seat any “modern polymer” magazines that are loaded to 30 rounds with the bolt closed. That means I have zero capability of doing any sort of magazine change with half spent magazines. That’s big dumb, because in theory you should never have your bolt lock open in a gunfight. What an idiotic take.
Shout out to those who only load 9 rounds because they can only have 10 round mags!
Anyone else’s okay surefeeds loaded to 30 absolutely fucking refuse to go in your gun with bolt closed or is that just me? Lmao
I’m no expert I won’t pretend to know what’s best but I’ve heard several former special ops guys here on RUclips like M1 Garand and that guy from Warrior Poet Society say the reason you only load to 29 has something to do with the magazine sometimes not seating properly and popping back out.
Who is the "M1 Garand"? 🤔
@@kybbe112 Garand thumb I bet
It's hard to put it in. LMAO. That sounds like something a 29 rounder would say.
It’s always been about seating on a closed bolt and for tac reloads...That 1 less round makes a big difference on the force needed to insert. For range use just load 30, but if you’re topping off for a “tactical reload” in a gunfight you don’t lock the bolt back.you would have a live round in the chamber and if you had 30 rounds in the mag ,when you fire the round that was chambered it’s sometimes to much tension pushing up on the belly of the carrier and it can slow the carrier down enough to cause a misfeed.it’s also ammo dependent.hotter loaded ammo can overcome it easier than weak stuff.it’s less likely to happen to a worn in mag but it can happen.now people can always test it with their rifle to see.take your go to rifle and the mags/ammo of your choice, load 1 in the chamber and insert fully loaded 30 round mag and press the trigger, if it loads the next round you’re good but if it hangs up then load 29.
You missed the point
@ebrandon98 Slapping the bottom of a magazine during a tac reload is 100% unnecessary, if you are man enough to drive the mag home properly.
Hopefully in the time since you've made this dumb comment you've taken a training course.
I tac reload with full 30 rounds using GI mags. Be a man.
Here's the thing, if there is a small chance at a weapon malfunction due to a fully loaded mag, are you willing to bet those odds on your life? That, sir, to me, is mental. Sure some will argue that 1 or 2 rounds will make a huge difference in a gun fight, sure, whatever. I'd say not being able to shoot 1 of those rounds when you expect to is 1000x more concerning.
Nothing to do with springs, on some AR’s 30 rd fully packed magazines don’t seat easily if you are doing it quickly or under stress, then the mag will fall out…the real reason for this is well known in the special operations community and many of them in theater do this if you ask them. You might train to give the mag a tug after seating but this is one more layer of insurance in case you don’t it’s much more likely to seat even if you didn’t jam it up there hard.
Your opening remarks are deliciously ironic.
Obviously, 30 rounds will work most of the time. But then again, you don't need a gun most of the time, either. 29 is just a bit of extra security.
Dirty bolts (sand, dirt, etc does happen) and/or dirty mags can sometime have a hard time scooping up that sacred 30th round you seem to love so much. Sometimes the bolt catch doesn't stay open. Sometimes slippery hands slip on slippery shit.
In a perfect world, you're right. In the real world, you're just complaining about people removing one potential problem from their potential encounter. There are people with stacks of bodies in their closet that run 29.
Judging by how upset you are over one round in someone else's mag, they probably aren't the mentally unstable ones.
Oh, and running your gun dry when shits going on is dumb. Learn to top off.
Here's the thing:
1. The proper way of loading a rifle (AR) period is to already have the bolt back. That way, when your 30-round mag is open, it chambers the first round in anyway.
2. New mags need to break in. Thats probably where they get the "wear" from when the spring loosens up a bit. People dont understand mechanics. Even a new part to a car has a break-in period.
3. Most RUclips Operators ("Im gonna dump a whole bunch of rounds into targets at spitting distance for the cool factor") just want to be seen.
4. You forgot to cut to scenes of you shooting fast transitioning targets and running around in the open like an idiot.
5. Videos I hate:
a) AR15 vs AR10
b) AR15 vs AK47 (which one is better / which to buy)
c) Dont buy an AR15 (super clickbait)
d) This (insert weapon) sucks (another clickbait)
e) Olight reviews (entry-level youtube star wannabe)
Why does Daniel Defense Industries make a 32 round AR-15 magazine so you can load 30 rounds. I would think they would know their magazines. If I was in the military fighting for my life I wouldn’t care about wear and tear and a couple extra rounds could make all the difference. As a civilian 28 rounds is just fine for practical purposes. With the future of “assault” rifles and “high capacity” magazines in jeopardy taking a little extra care is not unwarranted. We may not be able to replace them in the near future.
Who cares what one manufacturer does? Everyone else in the industry recommends loading their magazines to the advertised capacity.
The gas tank of my car is 12 gallons but only fill it up to 11
I've heard some military people only use 28 rounds, and the last two of those are tracer rounds.
29 rounds? Why not 20 rounds? Maybe you should download to 15 rounds just to be safe? We don't want to load too many rounds in, otherwise, the magazine will be too hard to seat.
15? Go to 10, if you want absolute certainty that it'll seat perfectly just put in an empty mag and load it by the ejection port
@@pyencdocde5716 Californians load their mags to 5 rounds
Only reason to have 28 or 29 in a mag is because you ran out of ammo to load into it.
You should always load your mags to 60.
Haha, I appreciate you for the bold statement/comment. Need more of that uncensored straight talk. That's how human beings express emotions, and it seems majorly censored, especially online nowadays.
obviously you have never been in an actual gun fight. enjoy that.
I say fill your magazines to their full capacity because you never can tell if you’re going to need those rounds to save you life or a loved one’s life.
I sure hope a lot of the newbie firearms owners see this video. Any little bit of common sense will help them in the long run and prevent them from being just another asshole with a gun.
Do you carry seven mags with you everywhere?
Why not? iT mAy SaVe a LifE
You need to realize how stupid it is to criticize someone who chooses to down-load 3% of their kit for any reason. It's NEGLIBLE.
@@hitman_s1 Tac reload with full 30 rounders. Be a man.
People that load 28 or 29 rounds are not mentally ill as you said, when doing a Tac Reload it helps the Mag Seat better and quicker! It’s a real thing!
I’m brand new to AR 15’s and you’re the first I’ve heard to say this, all the other channels say 28. I kinda thought these are brand new magazines, but the supposed experts say 28. Thanks for the info.
i have never heard it was because it would break the mag i heard it was because it was harder to load on a closed bolt
It's not an issue unless you're using some old ass milaurp mags or some shit, most mags already have extra room to let it seat on a closed bolt. That's only a thing on like mp5s is all I can think of
@@notachannel5476 yes
Don't listen to this guy, he is showing his lack of knowledge.
I only fill my gas tank 3/4 of the way to prevent unnecessary wear on the shocks and struts.
Leave extra change from your pockets at home too- it will save some weight and help with fuel efficiency
I appreciate the information you're trying to put on a table because you seem to be a civilian I don't know anything about you but from the commentary that you just provided it seems as though you've never been shot at and have had a few seconds to put an extra eight rounds into your magazine with the bolt closed. In a situation where you have time to get behind cover index your magazine that you just pulled out with say 24 rounds and slap a new one in to prepare for whatever is going to come next while you have that 15 seconds of time then you will do it. Your next argument could be that you could just pull the last round out the chamber let it fall to the ground and let's say I do this 10 times that's a third of a magazine I just threw on the ground. Your mission specific loadout will determine whether or not you can just throw 30 rounds in the gun and go to palmetto State armory gun range to just shoot pieces of paper then yes. But if your objective is to be able to sustain yourself in a firefight why would you then take the opportunity to hinder your own self when odds are stacked against you because another human being is literally trying to kill you and the only thing stopping that is having a bolt forward with it round in battery constantly. That's not to say that there won't be opportunities for you to run dry and actually have to reload with the bolt to the rear what the point is the opportunity for you to have to reload with the bolt in battery is equally pretentious and should be dealt with appropriately given that circumstance. All in all I appreciate your video and I love that you're exercising your freedom of speech just understand that people who choose to do something have a right to do so and in their situation it may be better than in your situation. If by the way you did serve in the military or law enforcement any capacity that is I do appreciate your service and you may have your reasons as to why that never pertain to you.
I love how you just politely told him to go fk himself lol
If you leave a spring compressed, it will collapse over time. That not a myth, it's a fact of life. If it wasn't so, there wouldn't be people that re-arch leaf springs for a living.
I think if you use good magazines, that's not an issue. Even when topping off the rifle or doing a tactical reload. I load 30 rounds in a 30 round magazine and if Im running a drill and do a tactical reload, I push hard on the base of the mag being inserted with my palm and the magazine always seats and with a quick tug, it never comes out until I release it. I see why many do that though, some magazines have very little play once that 30th round is loaded so when loading on a closed bolt, it won't seat. I have a shit ton of mags and the worst ones are the MFT mags. They always cause a double feed for some reason. All five of the MFT extreme mags that I have do this in all my AR's. They are strictly range mags now. My favorites so far are my ETS mags. They feed well and the grip texture is so aggressive, I can rip a mag out the pouch with KY on my hands. These mags also have some play after the 30th round is loaded so inserting them on a closed bolt just takes a little effort to compress that spring and it seats every time.
I totally agree with you bro. They are called 30 rounds mags for a reason. They are designed to hold 30 rounds.
I left 7 Magpul mags fully loaded with 30 rounds for 3 years on purpose and they all fired without fail through my S&W AR , ammo was M855 green tip.
Not a spring compression issue... 30 rounds is perfect for an empty chamber. 29 (or even 28) is often best if you're doing a tactical reload with one already in the chamber. If you're at the range, load 30. If you're headed into a firefight, load 29 or maybe 28. It's really that simple, but if you've actually trained tactical reloads under stress with 30 in a particular magazine, and it works, then go with what works until you find out the hard way that it doesn't. Oh, and name-calling isn't helpful and doesn't prove your opinion.
They don’t load 29 because of the mag spring or any other reason. They say it’s easier to do reloads and easier to seat the mag in the weapon.
Not saying I agree with it. Just what I’ve always heard. I’ve heard a lot of SF guys say that actually. I don’t agree though. I go 30 every time.
Your analogies are underrated...
My truck actually can’t hold a full tank of gas it’ll leak a 1/4 out 😂
That example about piss and shit made me spit out my drink. LMAO!
I use mostly Amend2 mags loaded to max and haven’t had any trouble when at the range or in my back yard. That being said I’m not a combat veteran and have no military training either. I have practiced mag changes both ways and I can’t tell much of a difference if any. I can see the point of both sides though. I guess the bottom line is you do you and I’ll do me right. Whatever gives you confidence in a tight situation that’s what you should do. If i was going into a combat situation I think I would feel better if the guys with me were confident in their setup. 28 rounds or 30? Me I’m goin with 30, I feel good at 30. If you feel better at 28 or 29, I’m good with whatever keeps you in the fight. Just my thoughts but again I’m no combat veteran, Just a country boy that plans to keep me and those around me safe the best I can.
This is a really hilarious rant....So, when you perform an "administrative reload" you start with 30 rounds. When you release the bolt you end up with 1 round in the chamber. 30-1=29 rounds left in the magazine. The only time your bolt will lock back open is when you have emptied your magazine. Once that mag is empty, you now have to perform an "emergent reload." Another 30 round mag, release the bolt again. 1 round in the chamber, 29 rounds left in the magazine. You should never have to perform an "emergent reload." You normally won't shoot 30 rounds all at once. You engage a target and fire several rounds. Then engage another target and fire several more rounds.... how many rounds do you have left until your bolt locks back? Did you fire 10 rounds, or 13 rounds? You will have no idea in a high stress situation. What happens if there is another target, and after a couple rounds your bolt locks back. The target is still a threat, and you have to perform an "emergent reload." That's a bad day. So, after engaging a target, or two you might want to top off your rifle. You still have 1 round in the chamber. You drop the magazine with the unknown number of rounds left. You insert a fresh magazine with 29 rounds so you know it will seat. This is called a "tactical reload." The really interesting thing to note here is.... "Administrative reload" 1 in the chamber 29 left in the mag. "Emergent reload" 1 in the chamber 29 left in the mag. "Tactical reload" 1 in the chamber 29 left in the mag. They are all the same, why are so many people butt hurt about loading 29 rounds? I would much rather perform a "Tactical reload" with 29 rounds. As opposed to an "emergent reload" with 30 rounds. Why is this even an argument? They all equal the exact same amount of rounds in the rifle. Mind blowing right? Lol, cheers!
Shit isn’t a problem with AKs.
I load 4 because I need 3 to zero and 1 for the deer hyuck hyuck hyuck
Some very well known trainers recommend this, alot of them combat vets(john lovell warrior poet) and down load for bolt forward reloads.
The idea behind under loading your mag is to insure you get a properly seated mag on a reload with the bolt forward
I can load a 30 round magazine and shoot hundreds of times, just like they do in the movies. I shoot all the bad guys before I have to reload.
If you always reload on a open bolt, then loading to 30 is fine.. but if you expect to do any other form of reload where you still have a round chambered, down load your mags to 28... in a perfect world, you'll shoot all 30rds and the bolt locks back and you'll insert another mag and hit the bolt release, in the real world you'll shoot a bunch and have a little bit of rounds left and you may want to top off your gun, to get more rounds in there with ease... 28 vs 30 its not a big difference i do 28, it makes it easier
100%
Absolutely. Kinda what i explained earlier. These so called idiots or whatever you want to call them are 100 percent right in loading to 28-29. Has absolutley nothing to do with spring life
I never load my mag until there's a threat in the middle of the night.
Truth! If your mag cant handle 30rounds and being loaded for months at a time...then its JUNK. Why put all that money and energy into tooling up just to not load a mag thats made to hold 30 rounds and be SLAPPED HARD in the gun. Its not hard at all to load so i see no reason to download for spring life or to load them in easier with bolt closed(which isnt how an AR was made to run normally anyway, as it has LRHO to hold the bolt back and make mag insertion easy)
I have mags that are made for 30 i fill to 30 that stretch out at the top retention area but they squeeze in when slapped like anything else, and they still work despite "stretching"
My magazine has a spring in it?
Interesting
I bet the ar fudds are planning my demise since I leave my og mags from the 70s loaded up to full capacity
Modern mags don’t have the issue of being loaded to 30 , it is a military thing to load to 28 due to mags being heavily used an abused for military service, it originally started with 20 round mags in nam being loaded to 20 and had issues so 18 was the number to keep reliable and probably translated over to 30s in military service. , big difference of use and abuse to a individual who purchased a brand new mag and is competent to inspect and maintain them compare to joe snuffy in the military who’s use and value of mags is more expendable. Soldiers or military members don’t inspect mags as much as a civilian does sounds strange but it’s true . When you use a mag your using Your mag in the military your using a used beat up whore of a mag that’s been tossed around like a squad fluffer
Military don't check their mags as much as civilians do....You have no idea what your talking about. I was a grunt for 22 years and in spec ops for 6 years and we check our magazines and weapons all the time and fired 1000 of rounds down range for years. I hate when civilians thing they know weapons and how the military works!
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@@jonathanpiccone6935 Wow, that was weak……do better next time!
*Morgan Freeman voice* "He's right, you know." 👆
When I take a dump I always pinch-off at three-quarters.
I load 28 in my mags unless civil unrest
i keep my who knows how old surplus ak mags fully loaded at all times and they never miss a beat, modern springs are better made, down loading makes no sense, and the same will hold true to AR's and just about anything else made today that isnt made like junk
I’m late to the party I know but wanted to add to it. Also wanted to say but almost forgot, you have a way with words my friend. Kept me laughin for a bit, lol! Thanks for the video.
It would be wear and tear to not take a shit you've had me laughing about these subjects since i was 16 and im 28 now. You and cokeman are the best dudes in guns on youtube imo. Also I've never even had a mft mag loaded to 30 cause me a problem either but im sure they could, i might not use them for something... important.
I should have a video about more gun channels exposed soon. It's funny how other channels take there stuff way too personally IMHO LOL
I don't think it's that big of a deal, they aren't mentally ill. The real deal here is the people that don't load any rounds at all. 29 rounds seat better than 30 and it sure beats 0. If losing 1 round gives someone the confidence they enjoy, then big deal.
It’s for reloads and dirty conditions reliably
Hands fucking down best god damned 'Mental illness diagnosed by the learning disabled' content on RUclips!!!!!
Ex 11b here (10th mountain) and fired thousands and thousands of rounds through my m16 a2 and my ar15’s and have never ever had problems with loading 30 rounds in a mag. This is what they are designed for, not 28 or 29 rounds. I really don’t see why people have this issue worrying about fully loading their mags to 30 rounds. All my mags are all loaded with 30 rounds (pmags and metal mags) and they stay that way. I shake my head with a lot of these channels with guys owning ar15’s and probably never had no proper training in their lives with it or the functionality of it.
I can’t insert at 30 reliably. Hence why I do 29. Reliability and speed over another round. That’s my pass.
Taxtical reload vs emergency reload
I honestly thought you were gonna reference the car's coil springs on the axle when filling the tank to full and say "are you afraid filling your tank up will wear out the springs on your car?". These dudes do have a mental illness if they think that's how springs work. Fun fact, springs do not wear in either the fully compressed or fully released position (or any place in between for that matter) if the spring never moves.
The "wear" that occurs in springs occurs during from their travel over time. In other words, if you load a magazine to capacity, another halfway and don't load a third magazine, they will all last the same amount of time before the springs go bad. The 4th magazine that you frequently load and unload and cause the spring to move continually will be the one that wears out the fastest. And even then that's gonna take a while.
That's a very good Theory to test to end this argument, get 3 mags for a year, then test the spring in a weight compression tester.
tactical reloads on a closed bolt are harder with 30 rounds, more likely to not seat.
Closed bolt…. That’s the reason. Not breaking the magazine.
My Magpull mag is holding 29 rounds because one is in the chamber. Haven't had a problem seating yet, even with the bolt closed. Thanks for this vid.
Personally I load 1 round in each mag. I love reloading and living life on the edge.
Don’t think this guy has been around firearms to much there’s a reason for loading 27 or 29 rounds in the mag especially if some mags have been used a lot and worn out over time
I only fill my gas 3/4 of the way cause I'm da poor.
I think I lost brain cells listening to this
I'm much more stupid and deranged now that I listened to this moron!
Man reading the comments you would think their are daily gun fights in every city lol. Have you ever watched a gunfight? Plenty of time to reload lol. If your alone your fucked anyway.
Try to insert the mag loaded fully with 30 rounds on a closed bolt.
Do they not understand its called a 30 rd magazine bc its specifically designed to hold 30 rds?
do u take koladapin or xanax...I agree the spring don't get damaged at all. 100% on that.
Both drugs in abundance
John Lovell with war Poet Society does not lack experience because he loads his mags with 29 instead of 30. (He says for personal preference)
Never throw an M4 magazine out, just put them in that parts bag along with the multiple Magpul plastic furniture, cheap red dots, other stuff your platform came with, or you bought because you watched a RUclips video.
It's only stupid if it's not the remedy for your issue.
But if it's the difference between locking your Mag or your Mag dropping out of the bottom of your weapon....🤷🏿
If it's the difference between being able to do a tactical reload in a competition or not being able to..🤷🏿
My only reason is I've seen some jam when at max capacity idk why
Yeah tell that to warrior poet
Well...this didn't age well if you look at YT policies