How to Train Wing Chun Chain Punch

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024

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  • @KevinLeeVlog
    @KevinLeeVlog  2 года назад +44

    Do you think Wing Chun chain punch is effective? Let me know what you think!

    • @jasongose2975
      @jasongose2975 2 года назад +5

      As you said, once you get inside and have already hit them once 3-5 chain punches to drive them back (or into a wall) can certainly be effective.

    • @lionmartialartsacademy4014
      @lionmartialartsacademy4014 2 года назад +3

      Definitely effective, normally use it as a finisher on combos myself or a diversion to set up another shot when it comes to sparring. Whether to the body or getting some strikes to the throat multiple punches are always effective

    • @GourmetBurrito
      @GourmetBurrito 2 года назад +1

      My first experience with mma, Wing Chun was part of the curriculum. In sparring, once a guy basically pushed me straight to the end of the sparring space by chain punching me in the chest (nice of him to not go for the head). But even against my chest, it was pretty disorienting. It knocked my breathing all out of wack. And he kept driving in and I couldn't get my composure or disengage properly. To be fair, I'm not good now and I was definitely worse then, but still like there's a time and place. You're probably right, I don't think more than 5 punches is all that realistic, but it's probably not even needed. You can get what you need from it within 5 seconds anyways.
      Ended up not following through with mma. Wasn't a big of kicks. But did a bit of boxing and bjj separately after that. AnywaysI feel like the shoeshine combo (3 alternating uppercuts) in boxing is really similar to chain punching

    • @warhawksmemories3071
      @warhawksmemories3071 2 года назад +1

      I practiced it at home a few times and at work my workmate got flustered when I did it and is much bigger than me. Think it's good to create distance when they are right in your face. So if you're actually trained I can't see why not

    • @moz5831
      @moz5831 2 года назад

      Boxing has flusters and shoeshining, which are matbe more tactical tools, you hardly can end fights with them. Seems to me that this whole video is more about correct punching mechanics rather than this pretty obscure technique, and perhaps that’s the real use of it: as a training tool, rather than as something you necessarily plan to use in a fight. After all, teaching the correct and proper punching mechanics is unbelievably hard. Some people get it right away, some people never seem to learn it.

  • @calvinhoward2277
    @calvinhoward2277 2 года назад +12

    I love that he's actually teaching Wing Chun in a more practical stance. Most people try to overdo the traditional square stance and they always end up making Wing Chun look weak. But this guy makes it look a lot like Western boxing

    • @loganmckibbin8601
      @loganmckibbin8601 2 года назад +4

      His lineage believes that the traditional stance is for training more than anything else. The way I had it explained is “if you can throw the punch in this awkward way, you can do it in a normal stance too”

  • @Theashtray2229
    @Theashtray2229 2 года назад +32

    I Train the Chain Punch Almost every day and I would say that it's really a good technique and we should focus more on the Form than the Speed because speed can be built with practice but if the form is not right it will go wrong

    • @KevinLeeVlog
      @KevinLeeVlog  2 года назад +11

      Yes! Always do it slow and focus on form! 💯💯

    • @Theashtray2229
      @Theashtray2229 2 года назад +2

      @@KevinLeeVlog Always Master ❤️

  • @jamiefrisby1914
    @jamiefrisby1914 2 года назад +18

    Hi Kevin, Enjoyed your video, have seen quite a few wing chun videos, must say, yours is one of the best, really makes sense and I completely agree with your training etc, I have seen a lot of what you teach , and it is all very proper way to teach wing chun. I used to study and practice wing chun amongst other martial arts from age 8 I'm now 42 years old, I studied at various schools, exhibitions with masters in attendance, Don the Dragon Wilson, Eric Lee, William Chung, Master Wong. If I still done martial arts I would certainly train at your academy and maybe even with you. I support your video and enjoy watching very much. Thank you for your time. :)

    • @KevinLeeVlog
      @KevinLeeVlog  2 года назад +3

      Thank you so much for your kind words and support! 🙏🏼🔥

  • @fongcha4933
    @fongcha4933 2 года назад +7

    Great job at explaining the whys… Helps beginners understand.

  • @nintendonarutofan
    @nintendonarutofan 2 года назад +6

    Most well explained, comprehensive demonstration of the chain punch. Thank you so much for this.

  • @iNightTiger
    @iNightTiger 2 года назад +4

    Best video on wing chun chain punch i've seen so far . Good work Kevin You are doing a good job for the Chinese Martial arts community !

  • @CarlosMendoza-mb3di
    @CarlosMendoza-mb3di 2 года назад +1

    I've been enjoying your videos lately . I haven't practice WC since I was a teen but every now and then I'll perform Sil lum tao . In regards to the chain punches I was taught that it was designed to attach center mass .

  • @jonahhex9620
    @jonahhex9620 Год назад

    Your “battle punch” concept and drill is good

  • @amospizzey1
    @amospizzey1 2 года назад

    Great instruction,
    I’ve spent a lifetime in striking
    And some years in WC
    IMHO the chain punch is the least effective part of the system .
    For proof try it in free sparring .
    Great channel

  • @MadaraUchiha-xx6eh
    @MadaraUchiha-xx6eh 2 года назад

    Hey Kevin been watching ur vids for a while now and just wanna say keep doing you man the way you mix wing chun and apply it is legit love how you keep an open mind to every martial art. I also wanna ask where are you guys located and how can I train with you guys? Would love to train with you guys some day

  • @Truth_Seeker1
    @Truth_Seeker1 2 года назад +1

    I want to learn basic Wing Chun so I can use it in my gym on the punching bag keeps ppl fit. Is there any videos for learning at home?

  • @khoalacake
    @khoalacake 2 года назад +1

    Nice work applying wing chun with modern training methods.

  • @jonahhex9620
    @jonahhex9620 Год назад

    You are correct about do not reach or lean

  • @johnperkinson2394
    @johnperkinson2394 2 года назад +4

    Thank you sir

  • @gw1357
    @gw1357 2 года назад +5

    When I train straight blast I train it generally as the opening moment of a fight when the verbal confrontation becomes physical. So I go from a squared off stance with the hands up in the "I don't want trouble" pose and then snap it out from there (presumably against an aggressive, but unprepared opponent). I'll train singles, doubles, and triples from that position. When I do triples, I'll sidestep/open pivot to the leading side, so it becomes sort of like a cross between a chain punch and a check hook after which I could trap or withdraw to boxing range. I'm mostly self taught, so my wing chun is pretty trashy -- its really gratifying to see that what I'm doing is sort of like yours.

    • @trondyne3513
      @trondyne3513 2 года назад

      Tactically the idea really is to initiate a continuous wave of energy that penetrates and does not cease... How that's done is what the system is all about & essentially what it explores...

    • @gw1357
      @gw1357 2 года назад +1

      ​@@trondyne3513 "Greet what arrives, escort what leaves and rush upon loss of contact.” - Yip Man

  • @MandlBakr-fd1zl
    @MandlBakr-fd1zl 2 года назад

    Thank you 🙏🏾 I appreciate your sharing of practical techniques!

  • @asmodeus8621
    @asmodeus8621 2 года назад

    That was such a good explanation and you made it look so effective, can't wait to learn more from your videos

  • @arrowskicks3744
    @arrowskicks3744 2 года назад +1

    My son wants to do Wing Chun, but we have to wait until he is 12 years old. 2 1/2 years to go. He does Taekwondo and Karate. Great video!

  • @realsupercopter
    @realsupercopter 2 года назад

    Great teacher!

  • @Rockstar_a.i
    @Rockstar_a.i 2 года назад

    Hey he got a haircut finally 👑 awesome demonstration Kevin 💣

  • @lawrencecrayton9844
    @lawrencecrayton9844 2 года назад

    Great video thanks

  • @manderin9806
    @manderin9806 2 года назад

    Thank you Master very much appreciated 🙇

  • @jasongose2975
    @jasongose2975 2 года назад +1

    Good stuff boys, thank you.

  • @ragequittinggaming2342
    @ragequittinggaming2342 2 года назад +6

    Making wing chun great again!

  • @thomaswashington5006
    @thomaswashington5006 2 года назад

    Thanks again for sharing

  • @ives3572
    @ives3572 2 года назад +4

    "Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, and add what is specifically your own." - Bruce Lee

  • @tylerwarwick7975
    @tylerwarwick7975 2 года назад

    The chain punch can be super effective if it's used on someone who is off balance or if used on something soft like the throat but I don't see a fight starting and ending with it. Maybe if it was someone like a powerhouse boxer but I doubt they would ever do it, I just imagined Mike Tyson trying it out and it would likely devastate the target but I'd like to see his face while he was being told to try it lol.

  • @jonahhex9620
    @jonahhex9620 Год назад

    Your feeding is good idea

  • @MartialArtsViking
    @MartialArtsViking 2 года назад +1

    awesome video, we also have it in hunggar and i find it pretty usefull in my fightingclips i do here on youtube to incorporate a couple of fast chain punches to get into and pass the guard of my sparring partner❤️

  • @BronzeOrwin
    @BronzeOrwin 2 года назад

    Hey Kevin, for proper self defense purposes, you should also train people how to do it with palms, so they don't end up with major damage after an altercation, or worse yet, break their hands before it ends.

  • @dtoad5576
    @dtoad5576 2 года назад

    decent chain punch mechanics. kind of a synthesis of boxing and wc.

  • @nicolasbouchard6331
    @nicolasbouchard6331 2 года назад +1

    Okay sometime Kevin was doing a rolling punch(goes downward instead of a up and he then complained about it 🤣 ( they are done for going down and uses of gravity against alot of strength compared to the vertical) you will see the difference in movement in the hips alot when they wanna push forward during battle punch with it, arm wise it's a small adjustment to change a vertical to a rolling one so they works great together with like going higher or lower in ur striking or countering.
    personally use it in sparring for the solar plexus it litterally stuns someone back at every hit since ur two top knuckle hits for less contact time for more a small point of energie transfer (middle one and then top one) rather than the 3 bottom from middle to pinky of the vertical punch that drives trough ppl more. The rolling punches are more likely to cause small fractures in the face especially during the overhand version of it (very little contact time without gloves and alot more rotations power than just straith)
    Vertical is Def can be used In more ways (rolling punches are good for hitting the solar plexus/face from a high hand guard and the side of the knee,liver when lower) while the vertical is better while going upwards from a lower positions
    it's alot harder to do adjustments to higher strikes and often will lead to you needing to deflect with ur elbows get ur face protected witb ur second hand (ur last resort in term of countering) and slip any high strikes just like you would when doing a vertical and getting a hook to the ribs that's lower. Same motions inverted litterally
    Ur vertical can also be used sideways as a sort of cross way/hook/uppercut on the outside but also often used when adjusting to missed strikes or parry. the overhand rolling punch is used to repair a fucked up vertical parry where another vertical ain't possible bc you'll get hit so you deflect with ur elbows (all the defence i said ealier) and used the downward motions to slip left or rigth and overhand. The mixing of the vertical and rolling Def helps to repair ur fuck up in countering and reuses ur currently bad positions and counterforce for countering again (I'll never stop countering every hit I swear 🤬)
    The more I look at his wing chun, the more i feel like his trainer didn't have the full 'curriculum" with the ground grappling and clinch work that's excellent in its mix of striking and grappling (lots of uses of strikes to help ur grappling since it helps for counterforce, uses of legs on the ground for defence(the usual stuff pretty much) and offense (kicks,trips,pressure on weak points like the head, neck,groint,or any joints) small adjustments against locks and chokes like using ur fingers to make small gaps for air and release pressure to get time against locked in chokes.

    • @liammcneely4013
      @liammcneely4013 2 года назад

      🤓

    • @nicolasbouchard6331
      @nicolasbouchard6331 2 года назад

      I had to do something and came back to correct small mistake and explained it better. But its litterally just up and down movement being the key difference 👌 and knuckle placement for best uses of it. But knowing how to switch between both is so crucial since it's a spit second and generates counterforce

    • @nicolasbouchard6331
      @nicolasbouchard6331 2 года назад

      A good way to practice ur counter force training uppercuts to overhand or vice versa and for sideways movement it hook/elbow to backfist/back elbow and its all done with the same arm to practice ur smaller rotations and speed of attacks rather than rigth hook to a left hook that has bigger rotation but slower. So you train rotation power over short range that still applies to longer ranged rotations while also training ur arm at being used for more than a single attack while in close range of ur opponents
      Bonus tips a wc back elbow to a backfist done super tightly and close to ur body with big hip rotations works great too in close range but also still applies to long ranged elbows and backfist

  • @-_ellipsis_-5219
    @-_ellipsis_-5219 2 года назад

    How would you compensate for 14-16 oz boxing gloves? The bulk they have seem to get in the way of good forn

  • @user-bj8mm4lv6b
    @user-bj8mm4lv6b Год назад

    2 people who adapted the chain punch beautifully; Jon Jones and Anderson Silva, 2 legends ☯️

  • @jonahhex9620
    @jonahhex9620 Год назад

    The power is not from the hip, it’s from the legs {knees} as you “walk” forward with a proper horse

  • @jeoster7400
    @jeoster7400 2 года назад

    Completely new to Wing Chun, don't quite understand why you want to be driving through punch, connecting when the elbow is still bent and then straightening out after the impact, doesn't the rest of your power after that just get rendered to pushing rather than hitting hard?

    • @jonharker9028
      @jonharker9028 2 года назад +1

      It’s a general striking concept, not unique in my experience to Wing Chun. Pushing engages the muscles differently. I’ll try to explain it:
      For a move with no damage, I can throw my hand out like a jab, but with loose fingers and turn it into a tap on the shoulder. Same with the cross, or the 1-2 combo. It’s not gonna hurt the other person, because there’s no tension in the muscles and it’s at the limits of how far my hand can reach.
      For a punch that connects *only* at full extension, you have a similar problem. The body can’t go any further, so it’s about as damaging as grazing their cheek with your knuckles when they slip your jab. You’ve expended all your energy just getting there, and have no more momentum or impulse (physics terms) to give the target.
      A punch that connects before full extension lets you carry through the surface of the target. Your muscles can keep working to drive the punch deeper, and transfer the force into the opponent.
      A simple related idea would be having a knife or other stabbing implement in the hand: do you only stab 0.5 cm / ¼ inch deep with your 18 cm / 7 inch blade? If you want maximum damage, of course not-you drive the whole blade in there, or at least as much blade as you can / the target lets you.
      A more exaggerated but directly related example of Kevin’s explanation would be to look at how Kamaru Usman’s punch looked when he knocked out Jorge Masvidal. The fist and arm continue well past Masvidal’s jaw on that straight line, because that’s how punch mechanics work. Tense before impact and extend beyond the target, deal more damage without sacrificing speed.

  • @jcmultimedia4072
    @jcmultimedia4072 5 месяцев назад

    ❤❤❤

  • @Kresho.
    @Kresho. 2 года назад

    👊

  • @JelloFluoride
    @JelloFluoride 2 года назад

    I'm admittedly ignorant to the mechanics of wing chun, but it seems REALLY difficult to master.

  • @jonahhex9620
    @jonahhex9620 Год назад

    Second your side stance is not correct wing chun and that torso rotation is ineffective. The knees are from where the legs derive power for forward momentum pushing the body as the punches are executed there is no movement of the upper torso

  • @HR6819-3
    @HR6819-3 2 месяца назад

    It’s not the traditionnal wing chun.

  • @ramonalarcon1974
    @ramonalarcon1974 2 года назад

    What if the oponent doesn't collaborate?
    Fantasy vs Reality.

    • @KevinLeeVlog
      @KevinLeeVlog  2 года назад +3

      I mean..you have to train with a collaborative partner first. Then you spar with people to practice your timing and techniques.

    • @ramonalarcon1974
      @ramonalarcon1974 2 года назад

      @@KevinLeeVlog Show me one practicando.

  • @trondyne3513
    @trondyne3513 2 года назад +2

    How to train it improperly...

    • @nintendonarutofan
      @nintendonarutofan 2 года назад +1

      What's improper about this?

    • @trondyne3513
      @trondyne3513 2 года назад

      @@nintendonarutofan Everything? I'd have to go through and present the entire classical first lesson of the system, which does not cover everything about the punches. But by definition this is a first (punch) lesson so....
      What I can say is that his stuff does not contain most of the classical elements of the system. In this case the position, energy explanation, horse, importance of travel/path vector, alignment, fist/wrist snap, clearing action, etc.... is mostly missing/different or not consistent with Ip's version if WCK which is actually what his lineage is if I'm not mistaken.
      Go look at the chisao stuff I commented on as well. I'm sure Steve is a nice guy but I don't agree with his admittedly revised "Wing Chun" .......

    • @FireRupee
      @FireRupee 2 года назад +1

      @@trondyne3513 "does not contain most of the classical elements of the system." Like which ones, specifically? This is a video about methods to help with training, and the chain punch itself. The target audience is already familiar with the basics of Wing Chun.

  • @jonahhex9620
    @jonahhex9620 Год назад

    First off your elbows are parallel with your body that’s not correct wing chun

  • @mariowajrak3868
    @mariowajrak3868 2 года назад

    Put this to the test against a trained boxer, otherwise it's all theory

  • @SSC604
    @SSC604 2 года назад

    Step 1: Don't train chain punches.

  • @joediffy
    @joediffy 2 года назад +1

    I will never understand why people waste their time on stuff like this, if you are practicing it for the art and exercise then I guess I understand but if you believe that this will work in a fight then #1 you have no idea what fighting is and #2 you will get hurt if you actually try this in a fight. What you see in the movies is not real, it is choreographed like a dance. If you want to see what a real fight looks like, watch an MMA match, that is what 2 real trained killers fighting looks like, these guys and girls are the highest trained fighters in the world today and you will never see them use chain punches. You can not generate any power with a chain punch, in order to generate power you have to have it travel from your feet up your legs and through your hips as you twist and then your shoulders, and then through your arms and fists, even a jab uses this same principle. There is no way to generate power with a chain punch. Chain punches are for video games and movies, not fighting. How many Kung Fu masters from China and around the world have to get the shit kicked out of them before people wake up? I believe Kung Fu was effective hundreds of years ago when everyone fought with weapons, there is no denying Kung Fu practitioners skills with weapons but with the advent of firearms these skill have become obsolete.

    • @KevinLeeVlog
      @KevinLeeVlog  2 года назад +6

      You are not 100% wrong. But my guess is you didn’t watch the full video? I covered your concerns in the videos.

    • @joediffy
      @joediffy 2 года назад +5

      @@KevinLeeVlog To be honest, I did not watch the entire video and that was not right of me to comment without seeing the whole thing. It just that I have seen so many videos like this that I assumed that this one was the same. I am a kickboxing coach, and I used to own an MMA gym and we had so many traditional martial arts people come in trying to prove a point during sparing and it always ended the same way and it became exhausting. I did not mean to offend you, it was wrong of me to jump to conclusions. I will watch the entire video.

    • @KevinLeeVlog
      @KevinLeeVlog  2 года назад +4

      @@joediffy it’s all good! I am a Muay Thai practitioner and a BJJ black belt. So I totally understand where you are coming from. 🙏🏼🙏🏼

    • @joediffy
      @joediffy 2 года назад +4

      @@KevinLeeVlog I feel like there is a lesson in this for me, lol thanks for being a nice person, take care.

  • @johnwick9765
    @johnwick9765 2 года назад

    Pak sao from wing chun training is better training then this garbage pad work

  • @laritio
    @laritio Год назад

    Props to the cameramen for not showing feet positioning.