“Necron Dynasties” Full Deck Reveal - Warhammer 40K | The Command Zone 487 | Magic Commander EDH
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Show Notes:
From the depths of an ancient alien catacomb, the “Necron Dynasties” emerge! Join us as we preview the entire Warhammer 40K Universes Beyond mono-black precon deck including 42 brand new cards and five never-before-seen legends! It’s chock-full of artifacts, graveyard synergies, and of course Necron warriors, so you won’t want to miss it!
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Necron deck: *gets revealed*
Rest in Peace: "...and I took that personally."
Bojuka bog is gonna ruin more games
@@yaza862 since trazyn the infinite has activated abilities of artifacts in a graveyard, it's easy to put some cards in the deck that care about shuffling grave into deck. I don't see bog as a problem, but rest in peace can get nasty against monoblack
Just like the card says: RIP
@@markomalmi7989 if you don't have any shuffling when bojuka bog hits, there's nothing you can do it's like everything, there's always a wawy to avoid it but it's unlikely to have it at the right moment
Henry Caville would be a great guest for this set.
Oh my god can you imagine
Bump!!!!!!!
Does he play MTG, though?
@@Urd-Vidan I'd be willing to bet he has in the past.
Josh and Henry just two big dudes chilling and talking about magic
As someone who plays Necrons in 40k, I take offense that the Monolith is Indestructible here but no where near that in the table top xD Hahaha
Bro the monolith and deathmarks are better on card than they're TT
But the opposite can be Said about silent king.
Everything necron/chaos is better in magic than the table top.
The reprints are very MEH
I'm shocked that the C'tan we're not indestructible or that the nightbringer does not have deathtouch and trample
@@seansmith3274 How do you shard an indestructible being?
Marionette Master seems automatically slotted into this deck as fast as possible. So many artifacts leaving the battlefield!
I want to upgrade it so fast but I keep them like they are want to keep the theme alive :)
@@tobisch7870 I’m upgrading the decks with custom proxies with flavor text + warhammer art to keep the theme alive. I put marionettes master flavor as “Fight fire with fire and steel with steel” and artwork of an adeptus mechanicus working on a droid for the art. I’ve got the cards, but I don’t feel right just putting mtg cards into warhammer themed decks ya know?
@@anthonyellison5998 I feel that that's why I have been trying to focus down cards are kinda close enough like amonket cards or phyrexian cards. I have also been mulling over the idea of tazryn the infinite deck where the every card in the deck is either historic (as in the mechanic) or is representative of something important to the history of magic as if he got released on to the magic multiverse and his collector instincts kicked in.
@@anthonyellison5998 ok this is actually nice
Disappointed you didnt show the reprinted cards considering they all have new art just for the 40k decks. A simple slideshow of them while you were talking at any point would have been fantastic.
I know right? Reprinted cards not shown in this video:
Arcane Signet
Commander's Sphere
Scuplting Steel
Hedron Archive
Mask of Memory
Unstable Obelisk
Wayfarer's Bauble
Go For the Throat
Beacon of Unrest
Barren Moor
Myriad Landscape
Desert of the Glorified
Polluted Mire
Vault of Whispers
The other content creators showed them aswell, weird decision not to do so :-(
It looks/ sounds like this video was put together very last minute. Almost the whole deck got spoiled 2 days ago so maybe they rushed out the video to get ahead of it.
@@oneloneclone7511 The Command Zone were given the whole decklist to spoil by WotC. There was no need for getting ahead of anything since it was their list to show off.
@@shintobean go for the throat is printed at common too! Huge downshift
One of the main reasons most of the death triggers apply to exiling aswell is due to unearth exiling the card at the end step, so it still triggers the ability. Pretty good design ngl
Crons and Old ones ruled the Galaxy. Old ones lived forever, crons didnt. Crons were like "hey, can you give us the secret to immortality?", to which the Old Ones said "Nah". The crons went "well shoot, guess well have to go to war with you instead". So that happens, they get their ass kicked like instantly, and then the C'tan appear out of the plot and go "hey, I can help you defeat the old ones AND make you immortal". So the crons are like "dope, lets do that!". The C'tan are like "sweet, I have given you living metal bodies and taken away your souls. Lets do this!" They do the thing, they beat the Old Ones, and then the crons decide they dont like their masters and they shatter the C'tan for taking their souls. Other races created out of desperation by the Old Ones (such as Humans, Eldar, Orks, etc) are popping up left and right. The crons are like "damn, this is annoying. We're just going to go to sleep and wake up in a million years when you are all dead from time. Peace ✌"
I would listen to a lore podcast that breaks everything down like this.
@@vincentwerts4724 there's plenty such as Leutin09 if you want a full podcast per episode, Weshammer if you want a more condensed version, and Adeptus Ridiculous if you want the general idea of topics plus memes
@@vincentwerts4724 Look up Adeptus Ridiculous
@@vincentwerts4724 if you want to listen to audio books campaign lore videos and a slew of other cool stuff check out aboarderprince he's fucking amazing
what? last time i check, Old One didnt create human. Did they retcon the lore again?
As a necron player, the misconceptions in the video hurts so much more
Sitting here with you, clutching my heart haha
Same, wish they could have gotten someone like Tabletop Tactics or Miniwargaming to guest star
This was absolutely awful.
They didn't go into any lore because they didn't try nor did they properly evaluate the reprints price since all of these are basically one time print art versions.
I don't play necron but I feel pain
Watch the reveal of the Chaos Deck on the LRRMTG Channel to mend your WH40K Lore hearts
I hope you have a game knights with just these precons.
They've never done this, which is weird because this is basically a WotC ad channel.
Loading ready run did this with previous precons. They have a wheel of precons which they use to randomise the decks played.
i normally root for josh in the gameknights episodes but when the 40k decks episode comes out ill be rooting for either the tyranid or necron decks
I’ve had a Greasefang decklist on the back burner for a while now, and this precon really makes me excited to finish it!
Yeah, these cards fit well with Greasefang. Also if you have a necron pilot a vehicle that’s awesome
as a fellow Greasefang enjoyer, She can't wait to add necrons to her gang
I've thought about building Greasefang for awhile now but it really needs another color and a few better vehicles imo.
@@CodiTC Can you imagine if Greasefang was Esper? All the cool blue artifact support
@@CodiTC I think it has plenty of good vehicles to build the deck. I built mine when SNC came out works really well.
I am soooo excited for this deck!!!! Super happy i had my lgs write me down for a collector's edition of this deck!
7:03 to get to the cards
thanks
I would have loved to get a new skull clamp artwork in the deck
@@dbptwg Your comment didnt aged well
I'm in the camp of not wanting to make swaps to preserve the cohesive look of the deck (definitely tempting to add a Bojuka Bog and Cabal Coffers though). It'll be nice to have it people want to play precon power level.
Same. Im harshly on the fence of modifying. Tyranids, I got like 4 artifacts that want creature type. But necrons I want so badly to throw dark steel forge and unwinding clock in it 😭 lmfao it's almost mentally traumatizing to decide if I switch cards or not
@@uginvissar9853 I gotta design some necron theme Altersleeves for those!
@@uginvissar9853 if you want to throw those in do it. The look and feel of those cards is right on par with the relentless nature of the neckrons not to mention the dark steel forge looks like a pretty good standin for the forges used to turn them into the nekrons
I mainly just stick to cards that look right for the universe and whatever staples needed for edh
This deck slis so full of necron flavor, it's awesome. Even the dies/exile trigger is an homage to their self repair protocol. So excited for these decks
It would be nice if you showed all the new art for the reprinted cards. We don't have a way to see that yet, and I was greatly looking forward to it.
I am pretty sure any where like mtg goldfish that has the full list has the art available
i feel like the value of the Reprints themselves might be slightly more than normal since there unique art of that card which those ones tend to be slightly higher
Much much more.
Maybe not now but in the future these could be great holds due to the difficulty in reprinting the art
I completely agree. These have huge potential to be collector's items. We just had to guess off of what we know though!
Only if the particular artwork is good and sought after. Most people won't care for W40k artworks to play in normal MTG decks.
Even just a few of these in the 99 of an esper artifact deck would be fun! I already pre ordered these decks because the art and designs are so cool
This deck could totally be Esper also. I am super hyped for this deck but monoblack artifacts is pretty hard to build
@@aitoriri1 The other decklists have been revealed by now. Check out the esper Imperium deck, it's esper, and has a commander that loves drawing you cards for created token. I planning on building a 40k meets shorikai artifact deck, and Marneus Calgar is probably going to end up as the commander ! How insulting that he will be leading a mostly necron decK... HERESY !
@@cmdrolfg8663 Yeah I saw Marneus too, definetly a great commander. I just meant esper is generally associated with artifacts but I can't wait to play with my chapter master as commander
Josh & Jimmy, I got a challenge for you & the Game Knights crew.
With magic products getting more expensive, and the holiday season being just a few months away, I had an idea for your 2022 Christmas episode. Since last year's decks were really expensive, this year decks should be inexpensive. In fact, the deck should not exceed 50 dollars in overall price (excluding lands).
Hope you guys see this, and a great reveal like always!
the video starts @ 7:10
Would be nice to have a closer look at the surge foiling tho. A few of my secret lairs had been unplayable due to curling :(
I wasn't planning on getting any of them, but this on conveniently I also building a mono-black artifact deck so this really helps me.
I literally learned about 40k from this cross over and bought my first models because of it
Thats awesome! As a huge 40k nerd and mtg fan it's so nice to see that this set brings ppl in the other hobby and vice versa. Which Model did u get?
Congrats. Welcome to the plastic hell we all say we hate but love ❤️. What army did you decide on?
Sweeet! What army??
Necrons! But still considering Drukhari
WARHAMMER LETS GO!!!
Why didn't you show us the art for the rest of the reprints or basics?!!
It's like wotc finally listened to the people and brought back old mechanics we all missed.
Normally I wouldn't care and get the pre-cons then strip them of parts, but I think I want to keep these all as is, or at least have a set of these decks as they are since they are all in universe art. But if I were to add any upgrades, I'd go with Buried Ruin, which I'm surprised is not included. It's like the perfect fit thematically and mechanically for a utility land.
Agreed. They're nowhere near cedh, but they are somewhat playable as is and the artwork is amazing as hell, so it's almost a crime to break them apart completely. If anything, maybe upgrade them with a few random cards here and there.
Trazyn the Infinite is crazy good. Palladium Myr, Pili-pala and walking ballasta. if you have these in the yard, you machinegun the table :)
6:16 I know, but. tens of thousands? nope. hundred of millions. they only went to sleep to the galaxy could repopulate after the war in heaven 65 million years ago
Well we don’t really know why they went to sleep tbh…
Could be because the enslaver plague but who knows if that’s even still cannon any more.
Could have been because they were just spent after the war to enslave the c’tan and the Eldar and krorks were pushing them back. But then that leaves the question of why the Eldar didn’t wipe them out over the course of tens of millions of years when they were napping and the Eldar had tech that could do things like move stars just cause they wanted a night light. And ya the Eldar were fully aware of the necrons existence and still have records of the war in heaven itself….
Ah well one day gw will be desperate for money and give us a war in heaven setting to play around in
Thank you for not over analyzing the cards, and just providing the list
I can not put into words how much I want to flesh this into Abzan colors, drop some of the less functional cards, add some flickering and token duplication, and turn this into a Necron Token Generator deck. It would be a true army then! Even better, if I could somehow splash blue and dive into Zombie tribal and use that to duplicate a lot of the cards too! Not the most efficient deck on the planet, but the urge to just duplicate so many things is pecking at me for this deck!
I almost did an Anafenza vehicles deck a few months ago, she was the commander I found to be the best for that kind of deck xD
I already preordered all 4 from my lgs. I'm excited to hear they're mostly new cards
Can't wait to open and sleeve these. I wonder if these would play well against other pre-cons.
The full decklist isn’t actually posted yet.
I think the best way to have compared reprint value is average value per reprint. Nearly $70 for about 30 reprints when average in the past has been about $88 for 65ish reprints.
"Space Skeleton Terminator Robots" -- best description for the Nekrons 10/10
A new card per deck for each millenium, let's go!
Holy shit 🤯
I got a good laugh out of Josh reminding us the creatures are mono black cause the entire deck is mono-black. Sometimes when you look at amazing new cards, your mind reverts to the basics
@33:00 it doesn't have to be the same colored mana. So if you get blood mooned or something, it can still tap for a different color
Never been a big fan of 40k, but every card and character revealed in this video is pure metal.
Really wish there would have been a demonstration/discussion of what the actual hell a “Surge Foil” is - Wizards goes so hard in the paint on these “deluxe/unique” foil treatments but doesn’t encourage y’all as content creators to really play up what makes them deluxe or unique? idk, missed opportunity
as for the deck, seems insanely strong, i love Grixis chaos of the Astartes but this one might just be what i grab if i find a group of friends who wants to have a precon pod
So excited to use some of the cards that trigger if they leave the graveyard or etb from it in Grenzo, since he sends cards to the graveyard before they go to the battlefield
I wish you guys gave some info on the look of the "surge foils" I'm assuming they are another version on etched foils?
I've Pre-ordered the Nids and necrons... since me and my friend both played the factions respectively we're going to battle with just precon and then upgrading
I always wondered about adjusting the prices of precons with the new cards so I loved the breakdown
Truc has to be the MVP of the Command Zone team. He is talked about almost every episode.
I feel like he should be paid way more because he does ALL the research for so many episodes.
I’m very excited to build a high powered deck with Imotekh! I can already think of two infinite combos that work with him
which ones are they?
Karn the great Creator would love this deck
When I first saw the face commander I was disappointed but seeing how the rest of the deck synergies with him I can see how it is better than I thought
Haunted one is an automatic include for the upgrade. Pump up the robo’s and undying fits right into the design
I already have a mono black artifact/creature recursion deck and I'm so ready or some of these heaters!!!
I'm a beginner to MTG and very excited about this Precon. Just trying to figure put if I want to buy the collectors edition.
I personally believe if you really enjoy the game you may want to save your money for more cards! But of course it's entirely your choice. Style matters too
The deck is really interesting, very fun and innovating designs
I absolutely love the new Warhammer magic cards that were released, I've always loved WH40K and even the fantasy setting for it (age of sigmar) and now that there's Warhammer stuff for magic I'm very excited to try and make my own. I have a few people I hope to try and impress with my own deck someday.
man. I'm already thinking of awesome synergies for this deck (and also cool alters) like scrap trawler, for instance could be altered to look like the canoptek reanimator. conjurer's closet (a powerhouse with all the ETB effects and unearth) could be altered to be an Eternity Gate on a Monolith. Cold Storage or Helvault (Also great with Unearth) could be Trazyn's Collection!
Glissa , the traitor is one of my favorite commanders. This precon is has have the most potential add for the deck compared to any set since I built it 5 years ago.
These new cards will be nasty in my Silas renn/armix deck. I’m so hyped!
Can't wait to see the reviews for the other decks...and the Game Knights episode
It looks great! I feel like a crucible of worlds might be helpful in this deck as you are self milling and likely to lose some lands in that process
Okay, i have zero prior knowledge to Magic, i'm here because Necrons are my favorite army and the art looks SO stunning! I just want to say: in comparison to yesterdays video about the Chaos deck what a letdown this video was! Yesterdays video talked a lot about actual playing it, what other cards or decks would love the new warhammer cards! Meanwhile this video is half as long and feels even shorter, because all that is being done is the card is read out loud, then a sentence about how effective it would be in the deck and then off to the next one. Oh, and the occasional sprinkling of some scraplauncher that would love this deck.
I was already sad about the video length, and THEN the last 10 minutes are only about the monetary value of the cards! I don't care if the next Black Lotus will be in this box or not, i like the pretty pictures and want to hear about some fun black cards i can put in there.
Seriously LRR did a great job showcasing the deck they were given to reveal. Muddstah was flavorful, but ultimately a letdown as well. Hopefully Pleasant Kenobi does the Esper deck justice with his reveal tomorrow.
Fully agree, love the Necrons myself but the first 2 reveals were made much more exciting and showcased the decks in 2 completely different ways. Also could not care less for the monetary value, especially on first reveal - lore or card synergy is so much more interesting!
Do you not recall at the start of the video that Josh said several times they would not be breaking down gameplay with the cards for this video? He said it several times up front. He also said at least twice that he would save that for (possibly) another video. I know it bumbs out he didn't address it in this video specifically, but its a bit dramatic to be calling it that much of a let down after getting several up front warnings about them not further examining the cards. And if you choose to skip all the portions of the video at the start that carried those warnings, that is not their fault. Should have watched from the very beginning.
Welcome to the channel! Sorry to hear this was a let down for you. I can see how this may have felt like the bare-bones in comparison to some of the others. We usually release a dedicated upgrade video for each of the precons, where we discuss the strategies and synergies in much more depth. And yes, the art is a-m-a-z-i-n-g.
@@christopherpoet458 yes but, as a fan of the channel and the content they create if the community is displeased with the content (even if it just 1 video every few months or whatever) then we should voice that so that they can do better.
I'm wondering if we are going to end up getting a tau, eldar, drukhari, squat, custodes, sisters of battle, mechanicus, orks, ect
I cant put into words how excited i am for the 40k stuff
"Flash, 187 a creature" is probably one of the best phrases ever. Just Chef's Kiss on that Demolition Man reference.
I got to say, despite how AWESOME all these new cards and even the reprints look, I am a little disapointed that dice rolling isn't even on a single card in these.
Just having a something like a little Necron Warrior 2/1 with " when this dies, roll a D6, on a 5+ return it from the graveyard to the battlefield" would be so on point in terms of theme and would almost exactly replicate the Reanimation Protocols they have.
Was hoping for a seraptek heavy construct since the Tyranids got the biotitan. But these cards look super fun regardless
Cyonpteks are the necrons robots, so the necrons became robots when they went through the bio furnace. ..cyonopteks are built as robots from the stizart
7:00 start of reveal
I've only seen this deck reveal and the Tyranid deck reveal, all I gotta say is they did these justice!! I pre-ordered the Tyranid deck but this one looks tempting as well!
it's annoying that all the full deck reveals are at midnight for me but I'm staying up anyway even if I have to go to work tomorrow
for me so far they've all been exactly at 4:00pm which is the exact time I have to leave for work
I've been looking for a mono-black artifact commander. Absolutely happy that the commander isn't too bad.
If you didn't want to do a longer video you should have done 2 parts to give some time to actually cover the cards and show all the reprints with some brief thoughts on them. LRR took 2 hours on The Ruinous Powers and it was glorious.
the graveyard or exile part is mainly to work with unearth i think
Can’t find those card sleeves or deck box on Ultra Pros website :(
Little fun fact about spiders, they do fly well more like fall with style but it's pretty cool .
I love Jordan. It's very rare to see an adult that looks like a kid trying to look like an adult.
I was wishing for a manarock 2 colorless for 3 or 2 mana of color for 4. So scepter of eternal glory is the card I wish I had a playset of 😁
Skipping over the flavour text when reading through the cards was a mistake.
Planning to buy this to distribute many of these into existing commander decks. CMC average of this precon seems a little too high for this to function without significant tampering to reduce the CMC cost. Needs a bunch of the staple mono black cards like Gary, etc...
I've never been so excited for a magic release in my life hopefully they make a deck for all the races so my tau can get some love
Will i be able to complete all168 cards of 40k if I only buy the standard 4 decks?
5 minutes of advertising and 1 minute talking about the race... Really sad. The other reveals were much better
this looks powerful and fun!
the exile mechanic is to matrch with the unearth so on death it activate and when you unearth it activate again :P
I love the necron lore never played 40k but read the necron manual like 80 times
Why did this have to be squeezed down to under an hour... well, probably 40ish mins after ads?
Feels rushed and completely underselling the 40k brand. I know they'll do the budget upgrade guide down the line but come on. With the delay, they've had these decks for a while so why not roll it into one longer video with both and more of a deep dive on mechanics and lore without sounding so out of breath at times. LRRMTG did it right with the Chaos deck reveal and reacting to it in real time. Hopefully tomorrow's will be better with PleasantKenobi
It doesn't just FEEL rushed. It IS rushed.
Heck, Josh keeps rushing them along. Meanwhile, the Ruinous Powers deck was a 2 hour long discussion of the card mechanics, and general lore around what was being depicted.
But this is kinda how Command Zone does things these days.
How do Trazyn and Darksteel Plate interact with each other? Does he automatically gain indestructible?
I wish they would've reprinted unwinding clock for the necron deck, it'd be very good in the deck and seems on theme for the necrons
Where did they get the Necron card selves? Did I miss that in the video?
Ultra-pro has or will have them up for pre-order
Marionette Master and Disciple of the Vault are going in here.
Also, probably Scrap Trawler, Spine of Ish Sah, Lightning Grieves, Trading Post, Kuldotha Forgemaster, Nihil Spellbomb, and Codex Shredder.
What's the difference between the collectors and standard box?
@The Command Zone have you ever heard of @weshammer ?
He loves magic, is a long time player and currently has the support of your sponsor too.
He also loves Warhammer and I think he's a great guy.
Love the show gameknights and your content keep it up
How much more are the ones with all foils going to be?
Their Number is Legion can be silly powerful with a Bolas' Citadel type effect.
Life can't be paid into X. So, the x would be zero if it is cast with Bolas' Citadel or something similar.
I wouldn't mind putting it into my K'rrik deck. Even Yawgmoth could make good use of it.
@@theotherguy4478 Oh well that's wonky. From the wording of the rules, O figured life would count as an alternative cost.
Will we be able to see the shadowborn apostle deck back in action?
What possible nonbasic lands could you have wanted reprinted in this deck? Basically all the good ones are colour fixing or setting specific. Cmon, any monocolour edh deck will have a lot of basics, it's just damn good for a land to come in untapped
should have done this as a 40k Commander set, with the foils as inserts. It would have sold gangbusters
Do you think that you will be playing with all 4 of the decks at some point?
The sheer number of new cards is staggering - and awesome!
44:55 maybe to compare the reprint value of the deck with other averages is dived by the number of reprinted cards. so this one would be £67 / 28. do the same form the previous precons and boom! you can see if the reprint value is on par with previous precons.
note I do appreciate the data you provide and the effort you go to in doing it.