Damasko DSub50 - Was it Worth the 6 Month Wait?
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- I'm speaking to you from the past! This video was filmed on June 2nd, with the intention of releasing it shortly thereafter when I got my first shipment of Damasko DSub50. Well, 6 months later, they are here!
The DSub50 follows on the DSub tradition of providing a beefy, purpose built 300 meter dive watch. But this one differs in 2 main aspects; #1, on the coolness factor, its done in full DAMEST coating, so it's super sleek and stealthy. And #2, inside beats a Damasko A26-2 movement, their own in-house automatic, hacking, hand-winding movement. This movement improves upon the ETA 2824-2 by eliminating its most common failure points.
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Thanks again Marc for the detailed video! This SubD50 has been on my radar since I first saw it 6 months ago. I’m so glad you strapped it up on the DLC Isofrane. That’s exactly how I was planning to wear it 🔥 I’ll be placing an order soon enough 🍻
Awesome, thank you.
Nice watch, I’m struggling with the rationale for spending so much more for an in-house movement. I can understand it for luxury watches but for a Toolwatch I just want something reliable.
Understandable
Its like the eta vs in house Tudor pelagos but in that case Tudor was kind enough to price them the same LOL.
@@idahoman325 the pelogos also went from 38-70 hours power reserve which in my eyes is an upgrade.
@@jamesminshall4601 , yeah I thought so too so I first got the LHD then the FUB blue pelagos... next will be the more polite FXD then my trilogy will be complete.
Very cool watch.
Have a Happy New Year 🥳👍
Thank you.
That's crazy how much better the strap swap made me like this watch more.
Damasko is a real original german watch brand. They meanwhile even manufacture their own automatic movement. I phoned Mr. Damasko personally for manufacturing cnc machined components for our product range some months ago. They make their own cases and bracelets . These watches a real "in house" made. They even manufactured surface hardened watch cases for others (Sinn for example). Unfortunatly they felt unable to supply us with what I asked for. Anyway it´s a marvellous brand and a family business. I just need some more bucks to "pull the trigger" asap.
I think Marc got the right stuff from Germany for the US 👍👍👍
Thanks Peter!
The case looks really awsome
Yeah, it is!
Not quite a 6 month wait, but waiting for more ISL-53's to become available. Yes, the wait IS worth it. Outstanding watch 👍
Awesome watch! A bit pricey for me but it’s nice to dream. Thanks for sharing it Marc and have a great day! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks for watching!
A beautiful dream indeed
Looks amazing….but Damasko, please…PLEASE ditch the Ali Express deployant clasp. That thing doesn’t belong on a watch that costs 1/4 of this one.
My sentiments!
Took the words right out of my mouth!
Beautiful
I just received mine yesterday from you! Luv the watch! I pre ordered a FKM Rubber Strap. Looks great on this timepiece! One big issue I do have with this purchase is that watch only came in a sunglasses case with a cheap piece of foam, and no paperwork like a warranty card, owner’s certificate or anything of that matter! Didn’t even come with directions on how to properly size the stock bracelet! For near $2300 I would have expected great packaging and such! Damasko could have done much better!
No doubt there is beauty in simplicity and this is a great example. I agree with some of the other comments regarding the price. Frankly, I think I'd have to already be a fan of the brand to want to invest that amount just to get an in-house movement. But having said that, I hope this beauty does attract a lot of buyers and that they find it worth the wait.
That watch def needs a better deployant clasp. Like the simplicity of the dial, great to see that ceramic ball bearing system for the bezel.
Super legible, true divers watch. 👍
Absolutely
Any watch with a straight, squared bezel is a winner in my book!
Now thats a beauty.A proper watch that says hello this is the time.No bling of fluffy nonsense.The watch for an engineer so to speak.
A tool no doubt
I love that isofrane... Might get one for my triton
Yes, Isofrane is a winner on that incredible diver. (Also perfect on my Omega PO, BTW.). I usually don’t like black coated watches, but I eould make an exception for that one!👍
For sure!
While the components of the watch are new, the profile of this tool watch does not change or disappoint the user. Because of the name it Reminds me of the new Sinn U1-50. Clearly different watches but very similar german watch makers in terms of functionality and tool watches. Beautiful time piece and awesome review.
Thanks so much.
Great video! It is larger than I thought but would work well on my 7 inch wrist. I was wondering why it’s not ISO certified? I know it’s certified by other agencies but couldn’t get a satisfactory response from Damasko on the subject. Also, I wish the case and even the bezel wasn’t black but just bead blasted sub steel. I also wish it only had AR coating on the underside of the crystal.
Welcome to the future where doorbells sing :) awesome watch, great video!
LOL
Pretty interesting watch, thanks for sharing this one.
Thanks for watching!
I like this one as well as what appears to be its primary competitor, the Sinn U50 S Black. I think there are good arguments to go for either.
Love both really.
Size is about the same as the U1.
@@nickslater9499 In case/bezel diameter and lug to lug, yes. Overall, thew Dsub is kind of in between sized compared to the two Sinns. The U1 is a bit thicker and heavier, while the U50 is thinner and lighter than the Damasko. I just thought the U50 comparison was more relevant considering it is a more recent release, also with 50 in the name, and the 500 vs 300 m WR is closer. Both of those watches are more wearable for a variety of wrist sizes than the U1. Putting the U1 style in a 104 sized case was a slick move by Sinn IMO.
I actually like the oem strap. For me it matches the aesthetic of the dial.
Love my DA46 and the ICE hardend steel bracelet I got from you. It really makes the watch! (finally took off the bracelet to try a quick release Bond style NATO strap which is awesome....but not compared to the steel 😉 ) That's what's a little confusing for me because Damasko's leather strap and the bracelet are amazing. The rubber and stamped clasp-sans dive extension--seems unfathomable??
Does this mean the steel under the Damast coating is not their usual "ICE-hardend" steel?? I think you've said on another video that they haven't figured out how to do that yet for the bracelet....
I was wondering why your Insta tally was so much lower!! Lol. Great vid and cool watch!!
Have you ever notices how (on mobile phones) the new video notification is blue and it s a dot which makes it look like an hour marker but most importantly exactly what the logo hand points at?
I have a Resco Blackfrog that fills the itch this one gives. Beautiful looking watch. At that price point I'd rather have a Resco or a Sinn for my personal taste. This one made me think of a Phoibos for some reason.
Thanks for watching
That much for a rubber strap with dirt-cheap pressed clasp? And having to _permanently_ adjust the length? (Good luck on the used market with that feature!)
What were they thinking?
Very very nice
Thanks much.
You saved the video with the ISOFrane strap, Marc. The OEM strap and clasp is so poor that I almost bailed on the video. I appreciate you always being honest about the good and bad. I'm a big Damasko fan. Given their engineering prowess, I can't understand why they would pay so little attention to the strap and clasp. It's a big part of the wearing experience, in my opinion. My DA46 is rocking along! My next one will be the Sub50 or central minutes chrono.
Thanks Nick. Gotta tell it like it is.
This thing is majestic.
Yes! Good way to put it.
Really love these kind of Damasco / Sinn style of watches. Loving everything apart the strap, and what I assume is pressed clasp. For the price this is just no acceptable.
I love almost every Sinn, Damaskos are pretty much all turds IMO.. Other than being German and both specializing in "tool style" watches, I see almost zero similarities... 🤷
Sinn seems like very fine, well finished, high precision tools/instuments...
Damasko feelslike the Harbor Freight knockoff version of the same tools... Yeah they look kinda similar to the untrained eye, but the fit and finish and attention to detail is night and day to a well trained eye.
@@toadamine couldn't disagree more, you've clearly never owned a Damasko, I own and wear one daily, their build quality is outrageous. Ask any Damasko owner if they have ever scratched one...
@@toadamine i have 2 watches each of both brands. When it comes to quality impression and finish, you can’t tell them apart. Not to mention that Damasko made some cases for Sinn in the past - how could these have been inferior?
It must be said that the Damasko case and bracelet is even more scratch resistant than at Sinn. I already have a small scratch on my 10 months old U50 bracelet while my approx 7 years old damasko bracelet, one of their first ones, is still without scratches even while worn often.
Damasko’s DC8x chronos are also cool central minute chronos in a relatively slender case. While the reissue of Sinn’s EZM1 used a module (Minerva not being available anymore-)and is thus a lot thicker.
The strap is sad.
@@toadamine I have owned both and I completely 100% disagree with you. The build quality and tech in Damasko watches is incredible for what you pay. I wish these in-house models were a little less expensive, but that does not change my opinion of Damasko one bit.
Oh man, even the blind can tell the time on this beauty!
Yup
2280 and you get a pressed clasp and rubber strap? Good looking watch but sounds very overpriced.
Just the strap. Everything else is top notch.
I love the look. I think it would look ridiculous with a fancy bracelet.
On your side. In add, an in-house movement w/o any significant improvement in performance over an ETA/SW brings no added value to the product. The price increase can't be justified.
Is the crystal really flat? I might be wrong but I think I read somewhere is it domed on both sides. Loved the video, thanks!
I had a DSub2 and the crystal had a very slight dome to it.
I've got this watch and three more others from Damasco. I like them all. And there is nothing wrong with the clasp on dsub. It's thin , not bulky and sits good on my wrist. I don't understand what people complain about it? To me, it is much better than on palagos. That clasp is the reason i'am going to sale my Tudor. I can't wear it
If you could only keep one Damasko which one would you keep? I just ordered dsub 3 cant wait!
Marc, can you get ISOfrane straps without a vanilla scent?
I can only get how they make 'em.
Legibility level is over 9000!
True!
My wrist is ready to test drive one, but my wallet won't let me. Very nice watch at what seems a reasonable price for the market. Ceramic bearings have been a marketing point in knives for awhile and now watch bezels. I prefer ball bearings made from 52100. Although the high speed, torque, load and high temp of the bezel may cause things like fretting, brinelling, etc... If you would like me to wear one and test it for these conditions, I would be happy too. 😁😄🐶
I understand that.
I bought the same strap from Aliexpress for my Timex Ironman. It only cost $5 so I must have got a killer deal!
Its odd that Damasko doesn't have a divers extension because you have to cut the rubber strap to fit. So either it fits over a wetsuit or fits on your wrist, but you can't have both.🤔
Very true. Function doesn't follow form in this case.
Finally
Tell me about it.
Looks like a $400 Elliott Brown (British Military) watch. EB did a better job attaching the band. For that price range I selected a Muhle SAR.
That in-house movement is so expensive. I wish they could still make the ETA variants.
Yeah, looks like they are getting away from that.
How about making a Chronosport UDT homage, same dimensions, pvd, 200m wr, on a nato.
Now that would be a cool watch…
without the black coating, steel bracelet and date at 6 or 3.
So the case is made of German Submarine Steel. . . . good selling point. I wait for the day when a British watch is marked Genuine Sheffield Tool Steel. Seriously though, that's a nice watch.
LOL, thank you.
Why don't they offer the d sub 50 with a bracelet? Thanks.
I was surprised by the huge drop if instagram followers at the begginig but then - hey it is June ;)
I hope it's cheap with that pressed clasp and non-molded ends on the silicone strap! Lol
Nope.
I don’t mind the price for everything it gives you but a spring bar? A watch with tool use and this price should be screw down.
The crystal is definitely double dome from the video.
a little too tooly, if that's a word, for me.....still enjoying the DA44 i picked up from you earlier in the year. i think it may have been one of the last ones you had in stock.
Thanks much.
Be careful, Mark! Saying winner, winner, chicken dinner? Do you want the pontiff to declare you persona non grata!? 🤣
:)
I have to be honest, I’d spend the extra and buy the far better specced Tudor Pelagos in the matte black. The movement is streets ahead and it comes with two far better straps
No worries, thank you.
However the Pelagos while cool will scratch much more easily, and also of interest is that Damasko took the 2824 platform and improved on all the (few) reliability issues - meaning that while not fancy it ahould be rock solid.
Plus, the bezel action on the Damasko is second to none - absolutely no play whatsoever!!
😍😍😍
:)
I have a grey dial DS-30 and I have to say when I first got it I was like "wow this is boring" but wow did it grow on me. And the steel is unscratchable. I did contact Damasko to try and buy one of their inhouse movements to put in it and they speak terrible english it was hilarious what they sent me "you cannot afford it, sell it" lol they just said buy a new one with the new movement and I asked you Marc for one too but I guess you had about as much luck as I did.
Lolol
I’m confused how a movement can be in house, but you have the statement “it improves upon the eta movement.” That right there kinda implies it is just a modified eta, and not actually engineered by damasko.
It's a modified eta they make from scratch since the 2824's patent expired
It's built from scratch.
Filming this now June 2nd 🤣🤣
LOL
Shame they dropped the orange/blue (#2) orange/black (#3) both of which are really sharp looking
I checked with Damasko and they will be bringing those models back. However, they will be utilizing the new movements that will most likely increase their pricing significantly!
@@darrylpatton4855 Thanks for looking into that. Guess the price increase is to be expected if going with in-house movement.
You've also added 5k instagram followers since then 🙂
I'm not too proud of that, TBH.
@@islandwatch Ever ambitious 🙂. FWIW I thought it was very good, considering the place to fish for more Instagram followers is Instagram, not RUclips. Happy New Year to you, Marc and all at LIW.
better lume than mediocre sinn
Great lume
Nice looking Watch, but over $2000 not for me.
Understood.
The price with that crappy rubber strap? Insane.
The in-house calibre offers nth more than difficult maintenance. It's a downgrade. MEH...
Hmmm , this is the Build back broker in action. Enjoy the future some have pleaded for. 😆🤔👀😎🥳🤡💩
Thank you!
First !!
:)
Who signed that strap and clasp off?……..seriously needs to look at themselves.
Too big for your wrist,it's very expensive and i'm not sure about that lume. I think there is mutch better choises to buy than this one.I like the look it's very Sinn-ish but the strap and that clasp
are just not acceptable for this price point.I think they will not sale good if they don't change that clasp and put a better lume.Your's watches are glowing mutch better
I love it, it's so comfortable.
Meh.
No meh. All yeah!
Honestly that thing is ugly and too expensive for what it is.