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Why this Damasko Chronograph is Missing Sub-dials and Cost Nearly $3k
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Today we will check out the Damasko DC82 watch with in house automatic chronograph movement. As true piece of German watchmaking engineering and know-how.
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I love the idea of a chrono that does not use those little sub-dials. For an old man with old eyes it’s a great idea! Great video as always!!!
Thank you Stu!
But why do you need a 60 minute timer, when you have a 60 minute bezel (countdown or diver)... also watch hands already count hours. lol
I have been trying to find reasons to buy a chrono, but its just not meshing for me. IF I HAVE TO TIME SOMETHING PRECISELY BECAUSE ITS "IMPORTANT" I'LL USE MY PHONE. If I just want to have fun, I'm using a bezel?
Hey Mark, you can use the bezel on the running hour hand. This makes the chronograph a 12 hour.
Yes, great call!
Love the DC80! So glad a central-seconds chrono is still being produced. RIP Lemania 5100. --sniff--. Thankfully, the ETA 251.264 movement is still around with the same functionality.
Thanks for sharing.
This is probably the most reasonably priced central minutes chrono available - they tend to be pricey. I'm not even sure anyone else is making one currently. AFAIK the movement is a based on a heavily redesigned and modified Valjoux 77XX - and not just a component, Damasko's getting credit for the movement due to the extent of changes made. Nice to see them pushing the envelope & getting the attention they deserve.
Instantly became a grail for me after watching how the chrono works, plus the cas3 hardening treatment, awesome looks and great lume.
It sure is, thank you.
For my opinion, this watch is the best toolwatch you can get and will perfectly fit on my large wrist.
Should I sell my GS for this thing?
I really love the look of this watch, but the minute markers on the dial are too long, making it very busy and congested at the perimeter.
Ok, well thanks for watching!
This seems amazingly like the Sinn SZ01 cal that was used in the EZM 1.1 a few years ago and the current EZM 10. Interesting watch and a superior layout for quick reading.
It sure is.
That’s all you need with a chronograph. It’s easier to read and time compared to a busy expensive dialled alternative.
A running seconds hand would be nice, though. I don't know how they would do it without adding a sub-dial and that's probably what they were trying to stay away from.
It is quite simple.
Not my style but that's OK because it's also not my price range!
LOL
This is the most expensive watch in my Chrono24 favourites-list. Those are the watches I realistically lust after. The all-white version is awesome IMO.
Have the dc80, bought used, originally purchased from Long Island Watch. Thank you, as it is a super cool watch!!
Why is the 55 on the bezel where the 5 would be on a dive watch?
Remus Zadic Countdown scale on this bezel vs. elapsed time as on a dive bezel. Since this is chronograph, you do not really need a second elapsed time function.
So you could use it to keep score in sportsball, up to 59 goals/baskets/whatever.
Love Damasko, they deserve more attention.
They sure do.
Looks great thanks for the advert
Nice video Marc👍
Damasko did a great job on these. This is a nice alternative to the Sinn EZM1/1.1 with similar technologies.
Thanks!
Maybe I missed it in the video but why are the bezel numbers reversed? Guess it's supposed to act as a 60 minute countdown bezel? Sort of defeats the "minutes easy to read" part if you want to use it like a normal chrono.
It's a countdown bezel.
Thanks Marc for bringing these other brands to the review bench. Great looking unique style watch. Not sure about the price though, but I imagine a lot of R&D has gone into the manufacturing of it and they want a reasonable ROI.
I would say so.
Mark thank you for this detailed explanation. I have two questions: 1. Why is the bezel bi-directional? (How is it to be used or what is the purpose) and 2. Does the chrono function use more of the watches potential energy? (As in if you left the stopwatch running all day)
Thanks! Love your style of instruction!
Center chrono. This is so cool!
Very!
Very cool variant! And the quality is real....plus a in-house movements. Damasko is really getting a lot of cool stuff. Thanks, V.
Thanks for watching.
Got to love german engineering
Of course.
I have a DC80 black and white. Its my favorite watch. I wear it the most and the chrono is super useful...use it daily. Never used my Speedmaster (cant read it...sold it)
I dont like the lack of a running second hand.
Could use the chronograph second hand as running seconds.
I would leave the chrono running. Just sync the green minute hand to the current time and voilà, you have a totally normal watch with a kinda strange but nice looking and very readable minute hand :D
Leave that chrono running and you'll smash the charge in less than a day
Mikey not if you’re wearing the watch.
hell and fire l am afraid it would affect the mechanism it means it would shorten its life
Just out of curiosity, if you let the chrono run on an automatic watch, will the movement of the wrist as we wear it generate sufficient power to sustain it indefinitely?
Yes.
If it has the option for a twelve hour bezel that would make this a 12 hour chrono. Even without it you can still align the pip with the hour marker at start and still count hours.
True!
So efficient that is very beautiful watch. I like very much that bezel is bidirectional, not all of us is hardcore divers, I just want to easy measure time with bezel. (Edit: Xmm bezel is backward?!) Unfortunately I will never buy it because prices wayway over my league. Thank you for showing us.
Thanks for watching.
Not a fan of the watch. Thank you for sharing. Love how you are honest regarding all the watches you show.
Only way to be
This Damasko model looks georgeous! The green pops really great in front this simple black/white dial! Love the plane shaped hand a lot! Price point is about 2,200 above my maximum. :-(
It is a beauty.
Damasko has just about caught up with Sinn on my wish list. They should get rid of those quadrant lines on the dial, though.
Great to hear!
I'm fortunate enough to own a Sinn 556, I often wonder if I should have chosen a Damasko instead!
Both are great.
How can it be hacking if there's no seconds hand?
Doesn't need a seconds display to hack.
Pull the crown out let it sit for 45 minutes. The time will be the same, 45 minutes behind.
Essentially the "hacking" stops the movement, where non hacking movements keep ticking away, hour hands too, it's just that the second hand is the most obvious sign that the movement has stopped. ( Unless you have an unusual watch with 1/6ths, 1/8ths or 1/10ths of a second sub dials that hacks )
When there is no running seconds and you go to set the time, how do you set it accurately?
Nice watch but don't manufacturers understand that a 4 o'clock date window is a hard "no" for all lefties? Great review as always, Marc!
lobserve1 Hunh! Can you explain?
yeah, me too, I'm lost there. I'm a lefty and don't care.
@@johnsrabe On your right wrist the date is tilted on it's side.
lobserve1 thanks for explaining! I see what you mean. It would be like putting it at 7 or 8 for the rest of us. Not easy to see at a glance. Have a good one!
@@johnsrabe yes, just a lefty quibble. Have a good eve.
Damasko Rocks have Sub1 and DA47 on Ice harden Bracelet both built like tanks.
Sure are!
I would love if the used the bezel for an hour counting.
I guess you could, in a way.
This is super up my alley! Man if there was an Omega logo on the dial, those would sell like hotcakes. Just lovely to see a clean faced chronograph.
LOL. Yeah, marketing.
Damasko makes watches that can survive a zombie apocalypse and that's what I appreciates about 'em.
And still look good :)
After picking up my first Damasko from your shop late last year, I have come to the conclusion that I will own more down the road.
Disagree with your opinion that this is an in-house movement. In-house? No. A very heavily modified 7750 movement? Yes. Even though it's heavily modified and Damasko has a few patents on the modifications they made, that's not enough to qualify it as in-house at least by my personal definition. Not looking to get into a “what’s considered in-house” debate, but my personal definition of in-house is a bit strict: An original, unique, and exclusive movement developed completely from the ground up, which this movement is not.
Agreed. I love Damasko and own one but I'm not sure I'd call this in house. Even their fully "in house" movement in the DK10 is based on the layout of the 7750. Escape wheel is in the exact same place.
Right, same concept with their A35 movement, it’s also based on the 7750, albeit heavily modified. Describing it as “in house” is pretty deceptive IMO, they should definitely mention that it’s based on the 7750.
Agreed!
Not my style at all but I appreciate the high level of manufacturing, and of course the review.
Thanks for watching.
There is also the DC86 - looks like the Sinn EZM10 movement - it has sub dials. I only wish they added the day date like the other Damasko watches at the 3 o’clock.
Thanks Todd!
I would love to see a running small seconds at the 6 o clock position. Lots of open real estate there to play with. Looks like a great watch!
Thank you
Nice! looks sort of like a space age simplified Baume et Mercier formula S, not convinced about the "countdown" bezel though.
I wish more chronographs were like this. Especially affordable ones. The old ETA 251.262 and certain 264 movements featured the chronograph minutes and seconds on the main dial. I haven’t much use for subdials that get obscured by the minute and second hands.
That's like 90% of them now. :(
One for the collection this. Cool tool watch
That’s great love the green and love the chrono function much better than with sub disks.
Thanks!
...this is beautiful and large and can you only then use the bezel as a count-down , rather than elapsed timer ? ...this is beautiful...
Others are pointing out as an elapsed hour timer as well.
Wow so cool. I really like everything about this watch. The price is over my budget for any watch though. Thanks for making and sharing this video and cheers.
You are welcome.
Yes. Beautiful. Well done. It is what it is. Not a flight timer though.
Hello Marc.
Now that was a bit different but still cool.
Not too big and I think it's a conversation starter.
Pricey, for me it is but not really as far as watches go.
Beautifil, yes and a touch of green.
Thank you, Peder.
Agreed, super cool chrono.
So if this is a center chrono that shows elapsed minutes then what's the point of "reverse" minute markings on the bezel? Shouldn't this started from 5 and going up instead of 55 and going down? Now you can track how many minutes left to full hour since chrono was started. Just asking, great looking watch!
The bezel is used in conjunction with the normal minute hand. Then you can count down to something while simultaneously timing something else.
Novak Djokobic is the AO champ Marc!!!
don't get it.
@@islandwatchMarc, you really are missing something.
Very nice watch and excellent tool watch as well. Compared to other central chronographs this one is not that expansive and you don't have to baby it that much.
Thanks!
Yeah. I could totally see myself getting this over a Sinn EZM 1.1
excellent.
Hey Marc...which Damasko metal bracelet does it use. I wonder if it accepts the one I purchased from you?
None yet.
Love Damasko
Me too
Not luming the chrono hands is a bit of a miss for such a watch.
7:14 Shut up and take my money!!!
Marc are you sure this is a manufactured movement? It really looks like an ETA 7750 base , with the chrono functions modified.....other than that excellent info as always!! Love mine!!
Heavily modded 7750
I dig the green accents, maybe do a long island watch with green accents, your color is blue, I'm diggin the green, lol
Haha, thanks!
2:22 Hey Seiko, you seeing this?
I still love ya, but... you know.
The strap reminds me a Di-Modell Chronissimo
It does, indeed.
The movement in a very well regulated and thouroughly reworked Valjoux 7750.
Correct
not even a whats on the wrist segment....oh my standards are dropping....if the hoodies are dropped next then i predict a mutiny on the Bounty type incident Marc
Hoodies for at least a couple more months!
use the pip as hour marker for a 12 hour chrono
True, that works.
I wish their GMT on DC200/201 looked like this.
That would be cool.
1. Yep it would have been cool if they’d lumed the plane and made it go sideways around the dial.
2. Nobody needs 120 clicks. Germans know this.
3. Subdials junk up the face. You easily and accurately can time up to 24 hours with this watch. (Yes, you do need to remember in your head whether 12 or 24 hours have elapsed. That’s not asking too much. All Germans can do it.)
4. If you want running seconds, just start the chrono. It won’t overtax the power reserve if you’re wearing the watch.
True points. Except for the plane; I don't think its supposed to be one?
Long Island Watch Well, it should be a little plane that zooms around the watch face! I don’t know what’s the matter with those Germans! Cool watch; I use a Seiko Sport Timer chronograph in my work all the time; this would be cool if it wasn’t so spendy.
I gotta have it...
Yes very cool. Actually practical as,a,stopwatch. An hour register would have been good.
Thanks Tom.
Happy Groundhog Day! Man I love the look of the Damasco watches. However, at $2700 I'd have a hard time buying this over a Gran Seiko (which I don't have). I've got the Omega Seamaster Chrono already and a couple of other chronos so that price is the drawback...
Sure, its pricey, but they give you alot; as does GS.
Gah! Damasko watches are so badass!
I have the Damasko DA42. bought it from long island watch. But thinking I would like the DA47 better. If someone wants to trade 🤔 🇩🇪
A very " snappy" piece. Great design nods going on here.Very Italian ? Cheers.
Very German :)
It would be great if they could also fit a running seconds hand on this also. I actually did just recently buy a used DA46, but I have not taken it out of the box yet. I need to sell some other watches before I "can" open it.
LOL, good idea.
I love this watch!! If one were to let the chrono run constantly (i.e. to simulate running seconds) would this run down the watch reserve prematurely? This is assuming no extra hand winding and normal, daily physical activity.
No, it would not. Not perceptibly at least.
A beautiful watch, no doubt. But also a mechanical chronograph with the genre's typical "features": minute accumulator "snaps to" when the second hand is 1.5 second PAST straight up 12. Mechanical chronographs are real world proof that "no one is perfect".
Nice colourway
It is.
Watch is beautiful. I am not a big fan of Chrono watches. They are useless but it it my personal opinion unlike perpetuals/ moon phase . This particular watch seems to be similar to one of Certina Sports models. I am closer to Certina , because it is world well recognised , Swiss made and much cheaper , below £550 unlike Damasco.
This is like a chrono that doesn't look like one, that's what I dig about it.
Just not long after Moser released their new watch with their no-subdial chrono too hahahah
$3000 for a watch with no running second hand! The designers must be on some strong narcotics to think it's a good idea
My main criticism here is that, as usual with Damasko, indices are too fat and make the dial unnecessarily busy. Apart from that, a fantastic brand and the chronograph minute hand is way more legible than minuscule sub registers.
Thanks for watching.
Nice watch
thanks!
Interesting.....
Yup
I don't get this one...ciao!
Guess we can't please everybody...I like this chrono....Not sold on the green...kinda looks cheap, rather than $2500+. Perhaps looks better in real life, rather than video.
That's ok, thanks for watching.
@@islandwatch thank you 😎
sweet lookin
Thanks
It’s not stainless steel, it’s hardened, carburized steel.
The first word on the caseback, edelstahl, means stainless steel.
I would really appreciate it if you would stop shaking the watch , I'm trying to look at it . SERIOUSLY just put it down .
I'm nervous! LOL.
In house movement? Really? Are you sure?
Heavily modded 7750
Unless Damasko are lying on their website, yes.
Chase Burrell per mark, I guess they are
Germans very price proud people.
:)
I'm first, nice watch!
Great work!
Too much back ground glare dude due to super white background annoying as hell! Are we have vision problems? I will after watching this!
bashing it is best way for watch to harden :)
I like white; makes everything pop.