Agreed, unless it's a unique timepiece and you keep it safe as a work of art. Anything that can be purchased freely is just "an instrument" made for being used and menat to be.
You’re right. However this all depends on one’s financial situation. For some, a Submariner is something that they would only wear for special occasions. For others it’s a daily beater. Some people would never swim with a Royal Oak or Nautilus. To others they’re rather “cheap” watches.
AGREE! Bought a Timex Indiglo Expedition with a full-coverage metal back. Need to change the battery, and somehow managed to pry the metal back off. Changed the battery with no problem, but could NOT replace the backing because it takes a special Press gizmo to push the backing back into place. BAD design, and even though I have had good luck with the accuracy of Timex products, I will be very careful when purchasing another Timex watch-----taking special care not to purchase one unless it is kept in place with screws that can be removed with the small screwdrivers used to adjust eyeglasses. Costco carries them.
I remember when my Brietling Callisto main spring broke I took it to the local watch maker they wanted $675 to repair it!! this was in 2005! then I found this Chinese guy who could barely speak English and he did the work including the parts for $90!! needles to say became friends with him since have taken him even a Patek Philippe pocket watch! he fixed it no problem that guy is amazing he services the watches while you wait and see him work! its truly an art form!
@@CGR9Noveno entirely possibly if he didnt see him work on the first one. entirely possible.. especially considering the price he paid to get it fixed, 90 bucks is like fast food workers daily wage lol. not sure how he thought that was a good idea to do.
Thank you sir. In 1997 I was in the market to spend a decent chunk of change on s watch for my dad and one for me to scuba dive in. I sold a car and had $3,000 to spend. We shopped for a few watches that were Grey market, a 1960s Omega, and a few that were frankly too high end for fellas like us. My dad saw a Wenger Swiss Army for a little over $100 I think and I found an entry level Citizen (non eco drive,) for $225. My dad still wears that watch and he worked as a machinist. I made 500 or so dives with the Citizen and still wear it as well. Great video and you are doing a tremendous service for folks. I just got lucky and made the right choice but I would have loved to see your video back then. Cheers from Mississippi.
@@tittyblast1978 Hahaha love your name!!! 😂 🤣 😂 Christopher Walken top boy 👌Wonder if he's into time-pieces too and what he'd go for 🤔 Yes I know, too much time on my hands... Perhaps should take one or two off phnar phnar!!!
Thank you for the caliber of your presentation! I'm a layman in terms of watches but your video gave me very clear advice that was easy to understand and offers the benefit of your experience in this realm. Excellent pointers!
Just dipping my wrist into the world of watch collecting and I have to say your content has been very helpful indeed! Great presentation; friendly casual exposition. Nicely done. New subscriber!
Just found your channel. Boy did you hit home on many topics and I fall into one of them. Rolex Submariner.. It cost 800 dollars for a tune up and the shop recommended a tune up every couple of years. Plus only wear it on special occasions. My brother had one also and he wore it everyday as a cop. Said you pay all that money and you never wear it. Very true.
Amazing video. No.4 reminds me a hilarious saying: “You never actually own a daniel wellington. You merely look after it for the trash bin.” Rude but kind of true.
I know a person who intentionally bought a counterfeit DW because „the genuine is so expensive but they are so beautiful I have to own one, especially I like their fancy straps”. If only they knew DW straps are ordinary NATO straps and can be mounted on almost any watch. I couldn’t stop laughing. I thought it was a joke but the person was dead serious 😂🤣
In 1986 I bought a Seiko Moon Phase Watch, and I still wear it every day and adore it. I would cry tears of blood if I ever lost it. It looks perfect on my arm, it's fairly small and quite flat. I barely feel it while I'm wearing it.I've tried other watches but nothing has beaten old faithful. Truly the best item I've ever bought. I think I paid about $250au for it.
I got a gold Seiko quartz, and a old Seiko world timer and they've both been in my family for over 20+ years with no issues after upkeep, truly a fantastic brand
You sound like a real sad sack over a watch. How many watches did I own as a kid and teen in the 1980's, about three. One was a calculator watch, a Seiko of some sort and a Citizen analog/digital. They're been and gone. I own two watches I bought years ago and can't be bothered wearing them because no one wears watches, we all get the time from our phones.
A friend of mine bought a Tommy Hilfiger watch and i was going for an Emporio Armani. I'm getting an Orient Bambino in the same price instead. You are doing God's work with these kind of videos, sir. Thank you.
Have fun with your Bambino! It's truly a beautiful piece; i wear mine on occasions and it always draws interested looks. It's really a conversation starter :)
Great video! You said everything important things about when buying a watch! I'm not a collector, I just have about 3-4, but when buying a watch I really do a lot of research what fits most to me what to avoid. Really great video! You get my like
If it was repairable, would it even be worth it? A smart watch is like a phone eventually the hardware can not support the new software with up to date security features and now you are getting into vulnerabilities like malware infection and possibly getting hit with things like identity theft.
Better buy a g-shock with heart rate monitor. The price is just a little bit expensive than an apple watch. But hey, a g-shock guarantees worth of money. At least can last many years without worrying the battery
People who buy Apple watch will buy a new one in 4 years to get a useless new feature. Apple watches are for gadget lovers, not watch lovers. They didn't buy their Apple watch for keeping time or for style/fashion. Bigger question is, I wonder how many "I don't need a watch, I have a phone" people ended up getting an Apple watch lol.
I paid about 400 box forn an oris artelier and I am really curious how is it possible, what was the trap. But I bought it with a warranty from a a watch store
I bought a frankenwatch Seiko from India. It was cheap enough that if it's just awful, I won't mind tossing it. I like the look of it and buying a "non-frankenwatch" of the same watch would cost like $300 while the dial is all scratched and deteriorating. Update: Watch arrived. Looks great. Works fine. Happy with my purchase.
I bought a £13 Ricoh watch (including postage) from an Indian seller last week. Honestly, if it runs fine I'll be happy with it, I don't mind if it's not all original, I just like the look of it and I'm not going to find one like it in a hurry (or even at all). If it doesn't work, it's no big loss! Shame it's going to take almost six weeks to arrive 🙄
I have modded a few watches, and so long as you find a clean space and have the right tools, it is fine. The hand pusher-on tool thingy is the most important (hands are fragile). The best part is that you can regulate the watch and have a Seiko NH35 run to COSC standards. Just buy the tools, get two of everything (three winding stems), and learn while doing. The best part is that you can make extra watches with your spare parts, not to mention swap out Seiko movements to avoid paying for a service.
Here is the "Austin Powers IV: Watch Maker, the Ultimate Time Master" version: (enjoy) Watch Maker: "I've been expecting you, Powers! ...but first check out my latest Patek Philippe Uber Ultra Grand Complications!! It comes complete a standard tachymeter, tourbillon, and a special repeater that chimes on leap year; a perpetual calendar, day, date, and month; a moon phase, of course, and also the retrogrades of Mercury and Mars, it has TWO GMT hands, one for each meridian-- both Prime and International Date Line--and a 24 hour and double 12 hour fully rotating bezel, and looks quite exceptional...exquisite...I get emotional just thinking about it. There's even a special setting for when I'm in those awful time 30 & 45 minute time zones---WHY DO THEY DO THAT?? ...wait, where was I?"
Gordon from Calgary. First time watching well done. My self have an Caravelle electrotime set-o-mate, 1980. I was in a bike mishap in 1987 watch was o I don't know ruined I thought but held on to it. Then about 5 or 4 years ago I decided to take in to some one very good in repairs. He told me it was worth repairing and so I did. It works great now. I remember for years what I was going to do with it. It is really nice to have it working. It was Christmas gift from my parents. Thanks for listening, Gordon.
I sincerly love your videos. I have just started as “collector” and your wisdom and sincere opinion has help a lot. Watching from México while drinking a pint!
I just wanted to say I appreciate everything you do for this channel the amount of effort that goes into the videos and the intro best regards to you and the viewers of the urban Gentry
Thank you SO much! Especially for the advice on fashion watches. They did really get me into watches, yes. But now I see the way I should move further and what to avoid.
I have been thinking about buying a Citizen Eco-Drive for a while now. I like the no-battery & no watch winder aspect of these Eco-Drive watches. Seems almost too good to be true. I’d appreciate any other insights you have and which models you’d recommend?
@@Kenerdmann Considering this comment is almost a year old now, I figured I'd chime in to your reply. I just bought my first watch, a Citizen Nighthawk Eco-Drive. Obviously I'm inexperienced but I'm super happy with it, at 42mm I was worried it would be too big, but it looks and wears great. The steel band on it is also pretty decent quality, which from what I've researched, usually isn't the case with under $200 watches. Good luck!
My youngest boy is a Navy pilot. I got him a Citizen Skyhawk AT (I think it was a ProMaster but can't remember) several years ago when his Citizen Blue Angels AT got fried by SPIE radar. Every time I've seen a picture of him anywhere around the world; at Fleet locations ashore, in Europe or aboard a carrier, he's had that watch on his wrist. He loves it. He knows how to and uses the whiz-wheel and all the features of the watch. I asked him a couple years after I gave him the watch how he liked it. His reply was "You done good, Dad. You done real good." He's moved up in rank since then and is now second in command of a stateside Naval Base and still wears that watch. Some of that is no doubt because "Dad" gave it to him but it's been a real good watch. I just bought a new Citizen Eco Drive Bryson BL5551-06L and I love it. I've had Eco Drives before that got destroyed through no fault of their own (one had a window slam shut on it because I stupidly put it in the wrong place to charge. Won't make that mistake again.) and I've been a fan of Eco Drives for quite a while. I have other watches l like to wear too, but the Bryson is still new enough to be novel and a real treat. Every time I look at the time I think about how much I love this watch. When the novelty wears off (if ever) and I wear something else now and then it will go on a light charger I got on Amazon so it will always be charged up and ready to rock.
I don't know if this is incorrect or not but is it true that an Eco-Drives cannot be serviced even by Citizen themselves. Like, if the hour hand starts acting up you just have to throw it away or live with it. I'm new to watches and saw this on some forum.
I don't see a problem with a reputable grey market dealer like Jomashop. I always hear, "what about the warranty?". So what about the warranty? If I am saving $3k, who cares if it needs $700 in repair work, I am still winning.
I’ve personally had a bad experience with them but I wouldnt get into that as I eventually got my money back but I’ve read about people making use of their warranty and getting it back damaged and saying the watch was delivered to the dealer for repairs already damaged and having to live with bent hands or scuffs on the dial etc.
Another thing that I don’t like is that they sell old models that don’t have the latest specs and cannot truly confirm anything until you get it and the dilemma is some specs you won’t be able to know unless you open the watch or hold onto it long enough to verify but considering their return policy you won’t be able to return for refund by the time you figure out what version of the model you got.
I should’ve found your channel earlier. I just realized that I recently bought an automatic chronograph watch in what you refer to as gray market. It came with a two year international warranty, but after I had it registered with the manufacturer, I found out that the warranty is only valid if it was bought from an authorized dealer. Now, the packaging and information of origin comes from an authorized dealer name, but the online company I made the purchase from doesn’t show in the list of authorized dealers. The only way for me to communicate with the seller is by email and she couldn’t give me a satisfactory answer when it came to the warranty cover. I’m happy with the watch, the price I paid for it and the fact that all the codes and numbers checked ok with the maker when I had it registered, but I sure hope it doesn’t give me any issues for the next two years at least.
Disagree about the grey market point. Every time I've purchased or came close to purchasing a mid to high end watch from an Authorised Dealer, every single time they've tried to sell me their display model with scratches and scuffs and what have you. I once requested a newly boxed one to be shipped in and they simply received another display model from another store. It's just the nature of their business that they can only keep so much stock on hand for security/finance reasons. I've purchased a number of grey market watches and all but one of them have been flawless. One had a misaligned bezel, and it went straight back to the manufacturer who fixed it free of charge under warranty.
@@DigiteAquiONomeDoCanal Doesn't that only apply to Eco-Drive watches and not all Citizens are Eco-Drive. Cheaper ones are just quartz. I am looking into buying a watch right now. I have looked at online shops from big to small, mom and pop shops, mall and department stores and pretty much any authorized dealer I can find. The Seiko 5s have been a lot cheaper than the Eco-drives and in most cases even the regular Citizen quartz.
Enjoyed your video. I had a most unpleasant experience with a Rolex knock-off. My husband bought it for me as a joke when he was on a business trip to Hong Kong. He presented it to me when he got home and I decided to wear it that day. By early evening, the watch had stopped working. One of the little studs glued on as hour markers came loose and got tangled in the hands. The bad news is I inadvertently left my husband waiting for me for more than an hour at the concert we were to attend that night. The good news? This time being late wasn't my fault! The useful alibi aside, the fake Rolex wasn't even worth the @ $20 my husband paid for it.
MVMT got me into watches and eventually looked into it when I wanted to get some more. Learned alot about the watch market and easily learned that these fashion watches are overpriced for questionable quality. Got a Timex Weekender and love it. Tried an inexpensive watch brand that charges proper prices and like it for what it is. Finally got an Orient Defender and I'm never going back. I'll honestly slowly grow a collection because watches are just so interesting.
NOTHING wrong with a Timex. They make some fantastic watches. Id rather a bog standard low end €20 Timex than a MVMT, Daniel Wellington, philippe loreti etc.
Grey market is perfectly fine up to a certain price point. I absolutely would not buy a rolex or omega speedmaster from one, due to restocking fees and other reasons you listed. But there's nothing wrong with getting cheaper watches like a Khaki Mechanical or Seiko skx007 for well below retail.
Very good advice for a novice and also a reminder to those of us who have been collecting watches for years. Many years ago, I lost money on a very good fake but, fake never the less, Royal Navy Omega Seamaster 300 and also a Synchron Doxa Sub that was genuine but not really restorable due to the parts now made of unobtanium. The Doxa runs and is a good beater. The Omega doesn't run but is kept as a good reminder. We live and learn.
Great video as always TGV. I saw your videos when my Armani Exchange watch was still under the 30 days return period from Macy's. I returned that watch the same day and bought the SKX with money left to spare.
The Urban Gentry I have in mind buying a Chinese Seagull, but I have to buy it online and I never bought before a watch that I haven’t got in my hands before. I already have a khaki field classic model, is the seagull in the same level of quality?. Thank you.
Puthearith Chea, good idea. When I shop for a watch at Macy's I just pass by the fashion watches that are seen in large quantities in flashy, attractive display cases and look for a Seiko automatic...I got one Seiko at a Macy's with 25% off.
Casio for life! My Gshocks may not be the nicest looking of watches but they are are very capable and damn near indestructible. My G shock steel is my daily driver and looks good. I'd like a MR.G in the future love the look.
I love G-Shock. I bought the Wave-Ceptor solar powered ones, and they are still beating away on the same power cells they came with. One is thirteen years old.
Watch, timepiece whatever. All I want is something to accurately tell time for a couple of years. Year 10 on Citizens, Just replaced the battery for the third time and ten AM is the same as the ROLEX . No $300 tuneup when it stops I’ll replace it.
My favorite watch is Casio G-shock ! Man... It keeps perfect Time and so Reliable , you dont need to worry anything else ! Great videos! Great Job !:))
smartwatches got me into watches. I bought an apple watch and loved it..... less and less over time when I discovered the magic of mechanical timepieces. sold it after 9 months and started my mechanical watch collection and saving up for a speedmaster professional :)
Congrats on educting yourself. Good luck on your goal. Then look into Vintage receivers such as Marantz 2600/2500, Pioneer 1280/50 or Sansui 9090 etc. Go for QUALITY first. Always. It'll save you big $$ in the long run.
So when I was a "kid" I bought what was then "the" pilot's watch. It was lost in a move. Ten years later I found my 500$ watch in a box I nearly tossed. I had lost the bezel years earlier. A new thing, the internet had come along, so I looked up a bezel for the watch I had bought, and worn, so long ago, my Rolex GMT 6542. The result nearly killed me. Are there really idiots that would pay that much? I wish I could say I replaced the bezel with an original...I would have to sell a house. I did have it serviced (not cheap). As to owning a watch you can't wear (my watch is probably worth a quarter of what my house is worth). Zooming down the highway on my Ironhead I sometimes think of the odds that, after an accident, would my watch still be with me but I still wear it, every day. I love that watch. What I hate are collectors vacuuming up relics to put in their own museums, never to be enjoyed; driving the cost of ownership past the point of sanity. Now if someone would just send me a Bakelite bezel...
I unfortunately was caught. Not that it's bad, but I bought exactly what was shown, a Daniel wellington for my wife. She loves it, but going forward I'll be researching as I've just started with watches
Honeslty I had my Seiko for 2 years now and it still works like I bought it yesterday... and got gifted a solar seiko as well and it still works great with me.
I'm sure it varies from product to product, but I've got an iPod that's about ten years old at this point. It's scratched up with a dented backplate (probably from the time it rattled down a small cliff and got lodged in the roots of a tree) and the battery isn't great, but it still works as new. Doesn't see much use anymore, but when it does, it's fine.
They will if you take care of them mines last forever and don’t even get a scratch on them 😂I just use a case and screen protector that I haven’t changed since I bought it doesn’t even have a crack on it and has been dropped multiple times
I hear you... But I absolutely love my Vincero watch. White face, rose gold hands and hour markers, brown strap, kairos series. It was also my wedding present from my wife so it has a special meaning behind it for me, but I do get a lot of compliments on it as well. I do intend on picking up some mechanical movement watches down the line but for now I am incredibly content with my vincero.
@@toastbrotL1 Im new to watches and I have to agree. Ive seen a number of snobs online. A lot of the reasons Ive been told to avoid certain brands are actually irrelevant to me (and practically everyone I know). I get that watch enthusiasts prefer a watch with heritage and certain materials. But the ones Im interested in are leagues better, from an aesthetic standpoint, than the ones recommended to me (imo) and have been shown to be of good quality on unbiased reviews Ive read. So I would honestly just go for a good looking fashion-watch. As long as I'm not trying to impress anyone, it just makes more sense.
New to the channel but amazing info. I’ve loved watches since I was a boy and now that I’m an adult try to keep an eye out for key time pieces. Thank you for the knowledge and I look fwd to more videos.
Great video. Unfortunately, I've learned several of these lessons (gray market and unservicable timepieces). I will not repeat the mistakes again and have one additional insight for the smartwatch discussion. Even if you can purchase extra watches (sans precious metals) or additional internal components to use for potential repair work, the batteries have a service life of 2-3 years (thanks Apple for admitting this). A new battery purchased at the end of a production run will also last only 2-3 years. By that time, the battery will be replaced by a new design, making it incompatible with your smartwatch (whether precious metal or not). One ends up with an expensive and value-less paperweight in half a decade.
Excellent comment John. Thank you, especially for having the integrity to share this. So often people do not what to admit their mistakes. You sir, are true Gentry! Onwards and upwards. Best regards, TGV
I have bought several watches on the grey market. However they were only $200 or less. I think buying a luxury watch on the grey market is too dangerous. Sorry you had bad experiences.
John Clark I used to love my Pebble Steel for a great knock about smart watch. Hammer proof and had some really wonderful apps, worked beautifully as a smartphone companion. That is until Pebble went out of business. It's still usable but the app hasn't been updated in years and sends a lot of your personal information to a 3rd party. Shame about the Apple batteries and Companies making watches knowing they will last 2-3 years tops.
I love this video. I worked in the jewellery trade for many years. I was proud to work for a moral and honest employer in Sheffield and I was a member of the British Horological Institute. That was about 20 years ago. I thought common sense, good morals and honesty was disappearing then I saw this video. It was very refreshing to see a young person promoting such integrity. I have a particular dislike for the 'grey market's having seen videos on RUclips of such operators, there is absolutely no care when they deal with lovingly made hand crafted pieces selling them in plastic bags after almost throwing them onto a counter surface. Thank you for restoring my faith in morals and honesty within the watch industry. I love the fact you wear a Casio watch too, the industry is not all about Rolex etc.
Thank you for mentioning the Bombay specials, aka the Indian frankens. I'm from India and it honestly hurts to see great pieces being painted over and sold unscrupulously on fleabay
Hi, I love your videos and I have to say that I agree with you almost at 95% with you. I would like to ask you something about the new Omega Seamaster 300M Limited Edition James Bond 50th anniversary... Do you think is worthy to pay more than 2000€ over the standard 300M?
Just want to say thank you for your Knowledge on the subject I am going to buy my first "collectible" or "hand me down watch" real soon and you were very helpful.
The WROCKET brand from Hawaii seems like a decent conversion, done by a trained watchmaker and limited to only 'Hunter' style pocket watches. Don't own one or can afford one but I've read nice reviews.
I wear vintage Omega watches. Five manuals and one automatic. All six are excellent time keepers. But one was a problem. It was a Bombay special. it worked for a while and quit. I have a good watch repairman. He took the watch apart and the movement was clued together. It is a 1943 black face war watch. Very nice looking. This watch is a omega 26.5t3. They quite making this 15 jewel watch in the early 1950's. My repairman said the parts were made out of unattainium. He said but in drawer and forget it. I did that, but every once in a while I would look at, In my eyes it is a beautiful watch. So if the watch parts were not attainable, I decided to buy another 26.5T3 for parts. It took three tries. I got the right last December. its was made very close to mine. The part came out of Australia. They look beat up. Put the movement was in great shape. My repairman just wanted to swap the movement., but I decided I wanted to keep its original numbers. So Dr Frankenstein did the work. And said it was a live. I went though quite a lot to fix this watch, but damn. I wanted that watch fixed and fixed it is. It keeps excellent time, I believe very close to current watches. I wear this watch a lot.
After wanting a good watch for so long but worried about my budget you have inspired me to start a cheap collection. Casio edifice and gshock in the case so far and now looking at a bulova cheers
I take exception with your No. 1. Vortic Watches from Fort Collins, CO, appears to be a quality company that specializes in converting pocket watches into wristwatches and they stand behind their work.
I'm a new viewer, and I have two questions. What "grey market" watch place in New York was he talking about? And what is his name/nickname. He says his name a couple times in this video but he says if sooo fast and it sounds like an acronym? If someone can let me know. Thanx
Great video TGV, your videos have stopped me from wasting my money on fashion watches. Instead I am putting money aside so that I can buy my own SKX007! Thanks for the continuous helpful advice.
YESSSSS!!!! So glad to hear it. The SKX will be all the sweater. Enjoy it when it happens my friend, Thank you for sharing that Shaw, Best regards, TGV
Another type of watch to avoid: a watch so expensive you are afraid of using it
Agreed, unless it's a unique timepiece and you keep it safe as a work of art. Anything that can be purchased freely is just "an instrument" made for being used and menat to be.
pretty safe strapped on my wrist. i had to get over scratches, now i just call it "character". although i'll insist on a quality glass.
I wear an AP offshore nearly everyday.
This is so true. Just like an expensive car that your afraid to take out of the garage.
You’re right. However this all depends on one’s financial situation. For some, a Submariner is something that they would only wear for special occasions. For others it’s a daily beater. Some people would never swim with a Royal Oak or Nautilus. To others they’re rather “cheap” watches.
A man wearing two watches has a lot of time on his hands
😂😂😂
Ba dum tsss
Nice
Im stealing this. And you can't stop me
I have a Sundial watch with nightlights.
“Beautiful view of Manhattan” *shows something that looks like a Soviet-era town*
haha ! well said...
😂 thats Manhattan for you
it doesnt look manattan , looks suisse.or a nearby country..
Rohan Bansal do you know manhattan price per square foot ? It’s a nice view for manhattan 😂
Have you ever been to Detroit?
It's you, Rohan, living in a world of shit.
We lived in the future.
An old man told me once that “Only two types of people open a watch. A watchmaker and a fool.”
Lol, sounds like your dad opened a watch once.
Fuck around : find out
AGREE! Bought a Timex Indiglo Expedition with a full-coverage metal back. Need to change the battery, and somehow managed to pry the metal back off. Changed the battery with no problem, but could NOT replace the backing because it takes a special Press gizmo to push the backing back into place. BAD design, and even though I have had good luck with the accuracy of Timex products, I will be very careful when purchasing another Timex watch-----taking special care not to purchase one unless it is kept in place with screws that can be removed with the small screwdrivers used to adjust eyeglasses. Costco carries them.
You look like a Bond villain in this video
Lol true
More like a sidekick
007nikster2 hahah sad
Casio Casino Royale .
That SAS sweater tho
Me: "What's your age?"
Him: "I don't know, between 19 and 72"
He’s 37
Hahahahahahaha 😂😂😂
Best comment ever
He is an immortal (😢🤣😄).
I said this the other day! He should be the mascot of r/13or30
I remember when my Brietling Callisto main spring broke I took it to the local watch maker they wanted $675 to repair it!! this was in 2005! then I found this Chinese guy who could barely speak English and he did the work including the parts for $90!! needles to say became friends with him since have taken him even a Patek Philippe pocket watch! he fixed it no problem that guy is amazing he services the watches while you wait and see him work! its truly an art form!
that Chinese guy probably swapped out your real watch for a counterfeit right under your nose bruh!
@@CGR9Noveno entirely possibly if he didnt see him work on the first one. entirely possible.. especially considering the price he paid to get it fixed, 90 bucks is like fast food workers daily wage lol. not sure how he thought that was a good idea to do.
was he fixed it using authentic after market parts or he used parts that are from similar calibre / module like an ETA movement ?
R/boneappletea (its needless to say)
Just curious, was it in Boston? I think i go to the same guy
Thank you sir. In 1997 I was in the market to spend a decent chunk of change on s watch for my dad and one for me to scuba dive in. I sold a car and had $3,000 to spend. We shopped for a few watches that were Grey market, a 1960s Omega, and a few that were frankly too high end for fellas like us. My dad saw a Wenger Swiss Army for a little over $100 I think and I found an entry level Citizen (non eco drive,) for $225. My dad still wears that watch and he worked as a machinist. I made 500 or so dives with the Citizen and still wear it as well. Great video and you are doing a tremendous service for folks. I just got lucky and made the right choice but I would have loved to see your video back then. Cheers from Mississippi.
fake replica watches and gilt jewellrey in the safe for when you get a home invasion, real stuff behind the cat food in the pantry
Gosh 🤫 now I just need to find another place to stash it lol
Thats where the patek lies for sure!
Safe inside a safe always works
I bought a watch for 10 euros 2 years ago . It's skeleton mechanical watch and still works fine. Perfect on time. It's a fake but i love it.
Why the hell would you own a cat?
Buy whatever watch you can afford and like the looks of. That's my rule of thumb.
And even if it's broken at least the time is correct twice a day hahaha
@@wb3213 Yes ha ha old joke, see you on TicTok😋
@@wb3213 😂😂
@@larsstougaard7097 gay
This channel is more about investment level watches
So does this Guy look like a young Willem Dafoe or what?
Yes. He kind of does.
Christen walken too
This fella is much better looking .
@@tittyblast1978 Hahaha love your name!!! 😂 🤣 😂
Christopher Walken top boy 👌Wonder if he's into time-pieces too and what he'd go for 🤔
Yes I know, too much time on my hands... Perhaps should take one or two off phnar phnar!!!
Willem Dafoe looks like an old him.
If it looks simple it means the person performing the “simple” service is a master of the craft.
Thank you for the caliber of your presentation! I'm a layman in terms of watches but your video gave me very clear advice that was easy to understand and offers the benefit of your experience in this realm. Excellent pointers!
Just dipping my wrist into the world of watch collecting and I have to say your content has been very helpful indeed! Great presentation; friendly casual exposition. Nicely done. New subscriber!
11) Mechanical watches for your wife. (Unless your hobby is setting the time and date on watches)
Grinder oh I can so relate to this.
It should also handle water and dirt. She loves to water test watches and she have green fingers.
LOL
I purchased a watch winder for her automatic. Boom!
Or work and it wind itself up
Just found your channel. Boy did you hit home on many topics and I fall into one of them. Rolex Submariner.. It cost 800 dollars for a tune up and the shop recommended a tune up every couple of years. Plus only wear it on special occasions. My brother had one also and he wore it everyday as a cop. Said you pay all that money and you never wear it. Very true.
Amazing video.
No.4 reminds me a hilarious saying: “You never actually own a daniel wellington. You merely look after it for the trash bin.”
Rude but kind of true.
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I know a person who intentionally bought a counterfeit DW because „the genuine is so expensive but they are so beautiful I have to own one, especially I like their fancy straps”. If only they knew DW straps are ordinary NATO straps and can be mounted on almost any watch. I couldn’t stop laughing. I thought it was a joke but the person was dead serious 😂🤣
Almost got a daniel wellington as my first watch
Thankfully i dodged a bullet and ended up with seiko presage
In 1986 I bought a Seiko Moon Phase Watch, and I still wear it every day and adore it. I would cry tears of blood if I ever lost it.
It looks perfect on my arm, it's fairly small and quite flat. I barely feel it while I'm wearing it.I've tried other watches but nothing has beaten old faithful.
Truly the best item I've ever bought.
I think I paid about $250au for it.
Got a picture
I got a gold Seiko quartz, and a old Seiko world timer and they've both been in my family for over 20+ years with no issues after upkeep, truly a fantastic brand
You sound like a real sad sack over a watch. How many watches did I own as a kid and teen in the 1980's, about three. One was a calculator watch, a Seiko of some sort and a Citizen analog/digital. They're been and gone. I own two watches I bought years ago and can't be bothered wearing them because no one wears watches, we all get the time from our phones.
A friend of mine bought a Tommy Hilfiger watch and i was going for an Emporio Armani.
I'm getting an Orient Bambino in the same price instead.
You are doing God's work with these kind of videos, sir.
Thank you.
I was giving a Tommy Hilfiger.. doesn't keep time, its 2 +- hours off every 6 days
Have fun with your Bambino! It's truly a beautiful piece; i wear mine on occasions and it always draws interested looks. It's really a conversation starter :)
1 year ago i bought a T. Hilfiger watch for my 18 years old birthday and its work perfecty for the moment
Magnificent Bastard got one for 100
Don't get watches from companies that make jeans and colognes.
Great video! You said everything important things about when buying a watch! I'm not a collector, I just have about 3-4, but when buying a watch I really do a lot of research what fits most to me what to avoid. Really great video! You get my like
In the end, I had to give up collecting watches, I just didnt have the time lol
Ron Wylie BADUM TSSS
Not bad, not bad
Jesus christ
Laughing at your own joke is a terrible idea.
I didn't know Willem Dafoe was that much into watches! ;)
Lol
And I didn't know Christopher Walken was that into watches 50 years ago.
More importantly avoid wearing a watch on each arm.
Well, I'd wear them on the wrist!!! :)
So two on one, then?
But what if one of them are one of those watch calculators from the 80s?
wear one on each arm and on each ankle
Gentlemen , groin carry is a thing in 24
This was the first video I watched of yours, very informative and intriguing, I look forward to more.
Will the apple watch be repairable in even 4 years? No. A waste of resources
If it was repairable, would it even be worth it? A smart watch is like a phone eventually the hardware can not support the new software with up to date security features and now you are getting into vulnerabilities like malware infection and possibly getting hit with things like identity theft.
Probably repairable. Solid state devices do not wear out.
JimzAuto false. There are things such as soft errors and hard errors. Further the transistors denature over time. There is also electromigration.
Better buy a g-shock with heart rate monitor. The price is just a little bit expensive than an apple watch. But hey, a g-shock guarantees worth of money. At least can last many years without worrying the battery
People who buy Apple watch will buy a new one in 4 years to get a useless new feature. Apple watches are for gadget lovers, not watch lovers. They didn't buy their Apple watch for keeping time or for style/fashion. Bigger question is, I wonder how many "I don't need a watch, I have a phone" people ended up getting an Apple watch lol.
"The Indian Frankenwatch market"
*Me sweating after paying $50 a week ago for a Seiko that's coming from India*
I paid about 400 box forn an oris artelier and I am really curious how is it possible, what was the trap. But I bought it with a warranty from a a watch store
I would love to own a perfect Frankenwatch, that would be a unique watch, but who to trust ?? 🤔🐿
I bought a frankenwatch Seiko from India. It was cheap enough that if it's just awful, I won't mind tossing it. I like the look of it and buying a "non-frankenwatch" of the same watch would cost like $300 while the dial is all scratched and deteriorating.
Update: Watch arrived. Looks great. Works fine. Happy with my purchase.
I bought a £13 Ricoh watch (including postage) from an Indian seller last week. Honestly, if it runs fine I'll be happy with it, I don't mind if it's not all original, I just like the look of it and I'm not going to find one like it in a hurry (or even at all). If it doesn't work, it's no big loss! Shame it's going to take almost six weeks to arrive 🙄
@@EnCrypticon23x from where did you buy
You sir need your own TV Show. One of the best, honest and enjoyable videos I’ve seen regarding watches. Keep em coming.
He could be Dick Cavett grandson
I have modded a few watches, and so long as you find a clean space and have the right tools, it is fine. The hand pusher-on tool thingy is the most important (hands are fragile). The best part is that you can regulate the watch and have a Seiko NH35 run to COSC standards.
Just buy the tools, get two of everything (three winding stems), and learn while doing. The best part is that you can make extra watches with your spare parts, not to mention swap out Seiko movements to avoid paying for a service.
Well said, isn't this how Horology starts potentially?. Must be some cases out there.. Major watches for example?..
" I've been expecting you, agent 007 "
Here is the "Austin Powers IV: Watch Maker, the Ultimate Time Master" version: (enjoy)
Watch Maker: "I've been expecting you, Powers! ...but first check out my latest Patek Philippe Uber Ultra Grand Complications!! It comes complete a standard tachymeter, tourbillon, and a special repeater that chimes on leap year; a perpetual calendar, day, date, and month; a moon phase, of course, and also the retrogrades of Mercury and Mars, it has TWO GMT hands, one for each meridian-- both Prime and International Date Line--and a 24 hour and double 12 hour fully rotating bezel, and looks quite exceptional...exquisite...I get emotional just thinking about it. There's even a special setting for when I'm in those awful time 30 & 45 minute time zones---WHY DO THEY DO THAT??
...wait, where was I?"
Where is blofeld ??🧐
@@keldonmcfarland2969 shut up
@@matthewj4066
Don't be an asshole
Guns … fountain pens … watches … and now I'm headed for the next Mecum classic car auction … God help me!
horselips haha sounds expensive lol!!! I love watching there auction on tv. I’ve seen some beautiful rides go across!!
Dang I'm already in watches and fountain pens dont throw me down further lol
No knives? You are missing out. And vintage Barbie dolls. LOL
I call this the ‘RUclips effect’
Guns and watches I understand but fountain pens? Get the fuck out!
"I would never belittle somebody for their watch, it's just ungentlemanly" basta, mi hai conquistato. Subscribe immediato! 🙂
I compliment the watch just the fact that they have one on
Quest’uomo è un signore :)
Unless they’re wearing a smart/Apple Watch
Gordon from Calgary. First time watching well done. My self have an Caravelle electrotime set-o-mate, 1980. I was in a bike mishap in 1987 watch was o I don't know ruined I thought but held on to it. Then about 5 or 4 years ago I decided to take in to some one very good in repairs. He told me it was worth repairing and so I did. It works great now. I remember for years what I was going to do with it. It is really nice to have it working. It was Christmas gift from my parents. Thanks for listening, Gordon.
I sincerly love your videos. I have just started as “collector” and your wisdom and sincere opinion has help a lot. Watching from México while drinking a pint!
I just wanted to say I appreciate everything you do for this channel the amount of effort that goes into the videos and the intro best regards to you and the viewers of the urban Gentry
Thank you so much my friend, knowing always inspires me
Best regards,
TGV
I am 16 and I just bought my first real watch, it's the citizen eco drive black watch, I am in love and it's only my first watch
Nice dude. My first watch was an eco drive also. I'm 17 now and have a job so I can indulge into my hobby alot more now lol😊
Eco Drives are terrific watches. When you want to jump into mechanicals look at Seiko for a extremely nice watch at a very low price.
Conrats! May you enjoy it for a long time ! :)
Good choice
Let's hope the first of many
Thank you SO much! Especially for the advice on fashion watches. They did really get me into watches, yes. But now I see the way I should move further and what to avoid.
Save yourself the grief, and buy yourself a reliable Japanese made watch, especially a Citizen Eco-Drive.
Good video.
True, I got a navihawk AT, and its a great watch ;)
I have been thinking about buying a Citizen Eco-Drive for a while now. I like the no-battery & no watch winder aspect of these Eco-Drive watches. Seems almost too good to be true. I’d appreciate any other insights you have and which models you’d recommend?
@@Kenerdmann Considering this comment is almost a year old now, I figured I'd chime in to your reply. I just bought my first watch, a Citizen Nighthawk Eco-Drive. Obviously I'm inexperienced but I'm super happy with it, at 42mm I was worried it would be too big, but it looks and wears great. The steel band on it is also pretty decent quality, which from what I've researched, usually isn't the case with under $200 watches. Good luck!
My youngest boy is a Navy pilot. I got him a Citizen Skyhawk AT (I think it was a ProMaster but can't remember) several years ago when his Citizen Blue Angels AT got fried by SPIE radar. Every time I've seen a picture of him anywhere around the world; at Fleet locations ashore, in Europe or aboard a carrier, he's had that watch on his wrist. He loves it. He knows how to and uses the whiz-wheel and all the features of the watch. I asked him a couple years after I gave him the watch how he liked it. His reply was "You done good, Dad. You done real good." He's moved up in rank since then and is now second in command of a stateside Naval Base and still wears that watch. Some of that is no doubt because "Dad" gave it to him but it's been a real good watch.
I just bought a new Citizen Eco Drive Bryson BL5551-06L and I love it. I've had Eco Drives before that got destroyed through no fault of their own (one had a window slam shut on it because I stupidly put it in the wrong place to charge. Won't make that mistake again.) and I've been a fan of Eco Drives for quite a while. I have other watches l like to wear too, but the Bryson is still new enough to be novel and a real treat. Every time I look at the time I think about how much I love this watch. When the novelty wears off (if ever) and I wear something else now and then it will go on a light charger I got on Amazon so it will always be charged up and ready to rock.
I don't know if this is incorrect or not but is it true that an Eco-Drives cannot be serviced even by Citizen themselves. Like, if the hour hand starts acting up you just have to throw it away or live with it. I'm new to watches and saw this on some forum.
My Indian Oris worked fine for 10 Days 🎬
Gary Sharples
It must’ve been a good one.
That's exactly how many days I got out of my Indian Citizen Automatic. Never again!
Gary Sharples it's works only 10monts that bad watch
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what did you expect with a Franken?
I don't see a problem with a reputable grey market dealer like Jomashop. I always hear, "what about the warranty?". So what about the warranty? If I am saving $3k, who cares if it needs $700 in repair work, I am still winning.
Exactly. I'm not gonna pay 2~3k more just to be told how "beautiful this watch looks on me".
Is jomis shop the place hes referring to in New York?
@budaflash Joma is based in NewYork and grey market so i'd assume so.
I’ve personally had a bad experience with them but I wouldnt get into that as I eventually got my money back but I’ve read about people making use of their warranty and getting it back damaged and saying the watch was delivered to the dealer for repairs already damaged and having to live with bent hands or scuffs on the dial etc.
Another thing that I don’t like is that they sell old models that don’t have the latest specs and cannot truly confirm anything until you get it and the dilemma is some specs you won’t be able to know unless you open the watch or hold onto it long enough to verify but considering their return policy you won’t be able to return for refund by the time you figure out what version of the model you got.
Good advice however is it just indian franken watches or all franken watches we need to avoid?
Before watching this: Too late
After watching this: Need another watch.
I should’ve found your channel earlier. I just realized that I recently bought an automatic chronograph watch in what you refer to as gray market. It came with a two year international warranty, but after I had it registered with the manufacturer, I found out that the warranty is only valid if it was bought from an authorized dealer. Now, the packaging and information of origin comes from an authorized dealer name, but the online company I made the purchase from doesn’t show in the list of authorized dealers.
The only way for me to communicate with the seller is by email and she couldn’t give me a satisfactory answer when it came to the warranty cover. I’m happy with the watch, the price I paid for it and the fact that all the codes and numbers checked ok with the maker when I had it registered, but I sure hope it doesn’t give me any issues for the next two years at least.
Dont buy a watch you cannot afford!
To late 😎
@@andrewbarclay235 *too late
I'd say: don't buy a watch that it will lead you to bankruptcy 😁
Sold my house to buy a gorillaz x gshock of ebay... damn scalpers
Thank you I'm trying to justify spending on a watch
I find your perspective refreshing and honest and educated and it's so nice to see.
icely done. New subscriber!
I love the passion and stayed for the information
Thankyou a million times for the recommendation to avoid fashion watches! I bought my first watch, a Max Bill, last month and I couldn't be happier.
How much did it cost you?
Disagree about the grey market point. Every time I've purchased or came close to purchasing a mid to high end watch from an Authorised Dealer, every single time they've tried to sell me their display model with scratches and scuffs and what have you. I once requested a newly boxed one to be shipped in and they simply received another display model from another store. It's just the nature of their business that they can only keep so much stock on hand for security/finance reasons.
I've purchased a number of grey market watches and all but one of them have been flawless. One had a misaligned bezel, and it went straight back to the manufacturer who fixed it free of charge under warranty.
You are VERY lucky sir.
Thank you, enjoy your watches.
Best regards,
TGV
I like Seiko , I've a a 40 year old one with crystal cut glass screen
Basically, buy a Seiko and be happy!
Hear hear!
Well said,
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
nah citizen is cheaper and accurate and you won't need to open the screwback case for at least 10yrs.
@@DigiteAquiONomeDoCanal Doesn't that only apply to Eco-Drive watches and not all Citizens are Eco-Drive. Cheaper ones are just quartz. I am looking into buying a watch right now. I have looked at online shops from big to small, mom and pop shops, mall and department stores and pretty much any authorized dealer I can find. The Seiko 5s have been a lot cheaper than the Eco-drives and in most cases even the regular Citizen quartz.
I’ve been wearing Seiko for 2 years now, haven’t had to wind it since, and perfectly accurate.
12012channel my seiko 5 just “feels” cheaper than my citizens
Enjoyed your video. I had a most unpleasant experience with a Rolex knock-off. My husband bought it for me as a joke when he was on a business trip to Hong Kong. He presented it to me when he got home and I decided to wear it that day. By early evening, the watch had stopped working. One of the little studs glued on as hour markers came loose and got tangled in the hands. The bad news is I inadvertently left my husband waiting for me for more than an hour at the concert we were to attend that night. The good news? This time being late wasn't my fault! The useful alibi aside, the fake Rolex wasn't even worth the @ $20 my husband paid for it.
MVMT got me into watches and eventually looked into it when I wanted to get some more. Learned alot about the watch market and easily learned that these fashion watches are overpriced for questionable quality. Got a Timex Weekender and love it. Tried an inexpensive watch brand that charges proper prices and like it for what it is. Finally got an Orient Defender and I'm never going back. I'll honestly slowly grow a collection because watches are just so interesting.
NOTHING wrong with a Timex. They make some fantastic watches. Id rather a bog standard low end €20 Timex than a MVMT, Daniel Wellington, philippe loreti etc.
Was MVMT worth it?
I love Timex and Casio.
I work in a very demanding, all weather dirty job and my Timex has been with me the whole way. I own several and love them all. Extremely reliable
Just got into watches and so happy I found your content.
Grey market is perfectly fine up to a certain price point. I absolutely would not buy a rolex or omega speedmaster from one, due to restocking fees and other reasons you listed. But there's nothing wrong with getting cheaper watches like a Khaki Mechanical or Seiko skx007 for well below retail.
fax
Seiko is actually a quality watch in my opinion
Well I will WATCH out for these 😜
I have no friends
Me too
@@BigAirr. same
@someone from the netherlands get some friends then dude
😂 that made my day
someone from the Netherlands ,I’m not surprised!
Love your channel, I'm hooked TGV!
Never knew of frankling watches before. This is so eyes opening!
Very good advice for a novice and also a reminder to those of us who have been collecting watches for years. Many years ago, I lost money on a very good fake but, fake never the less, Royal Navy Omega Seamaster 300 and also a Synchron Doxa Sub that was genuine but not really restorable due to the parts now made of unobtanium. The Doxa runs and is a good beater. The Omega doesn't run but is kept as a good reminder. We live and learn.
Great video as always TGV. I saw your videos when my Armani Exchange watch was still under the 30 days return period from Macy's. I returned that watch the same day and bought the SKX with money left to spare.
Nice one my friend, nicely done indeed!!!!
Thank you for sharing that.
Best regards,
TGV
Good choice
The Urban Gentry I have in mind buying a Chinese Seagull, but I have to buy it online and I never bought before a watch that I haven’t got in my hands before. I already have a khaki field classic model, is the seagull in the same level of quality?. Thank you.
Puthearith Chea, good idea. When I shop for a watch at Macy's I just pass by the fashion watches that are seen in large quantities in flashy, attractive display cases and look for a Seiko automatic...I got one Seiko at a Macy's with 25% off.
I wear a Timex at work because I’m a Registered Nurse! If someone hocks a loogie on my watch .... I can throw it away! 😁👍🏼
hope you are keeping safe James.
Same here brother! Cheap little Casio for me.
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Get a waterproof one! You are wasting earth's resources!
@@twbrkfd1733 germs u moron
The best top 10 list for people shopping for watches. Thankyou
I have several 25+ year old fashion watches. They’re all quartz and still work perfectly and look fine. They’re what got me into watches.
All of your videos are way better then watching TV. A class act.
Casio for life! My Gshocks may not be the nicest looking of watches but they are are very capable and damn near indestructible. My G shock steel is my daily driver and looks good. I'd like a MR.G in the future love the look.
I love G-Shock. I bought the Wave-Ceptor solar powered ones, and they are still beating away on the same power cells they came with. One is thirteen years old.
Whipped99 some of them are even better looking than rolex!
like steelseries
or rangeman
I doubt it. How are G-Shocks germ traps, when we wear them in the shower/bath, almost every day? Or just clean them now and again.
G shock are amazing
@Star Trek Theory
I have disassembled many.
Please forgive my ignorance, but your point is lost on me.
Your channel is so relaxing even tho I’m not that into watches subbed
Just found this video and your channel. Thinking about getting more into watches myself and expanding into a collection. Cheers!
So glad to hear, welcome aboard!
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
@@M240-q5j I collect both! Guns are WAY more fun! Luckily, I get to wear my watches and my guns everywhere I go (though, not all at once!).
Watch, timepiece whatever. All I want is something to accurately tell time for a couple of years. Year 10 on Citizens, Just replaced the battery for the third time and ten AM is the same as the ROLEX . No $300 tuneup when it stops I’ll replace it.
My favorite watch is Casio G-shock ! Man... It keeps perfect Time and so Reliable , you dont need to worry anything else ! Great videos! Great Job !:))
Gshock is great, theres a lot of special editions
And everyone loves them!
smartwatches got me into watches. I bought an apple watch and loved it.....
less and less over time when I discovered the magic of mechanical timepieces. sold it after 9 months and started my mechanical watch collection and saving up for a speedmaster professional :)
That was a very good decision.
This is exactly what i experienced too. I bought a Samsung SmartWatch and now discorverd the real Art of mechanical watches...
I don't like smart watches but they really did start getting a generation who never wore watches to start wearing them.
Congrats on educting yourself. Good luck on your goal.
Then look into Vintage receivers such as Marantz 2600/2500, Pioneer 1280/50 or Sansui 9090 etc.
Go for QUALITY first. Always. It'll save you big $$ in the long run.
same
Enjoyed this a lot. Really good advice, as it is all too easy to get caught out when buying. You have absolutely nailed it.
I've done the "Grey Market" thing. The watch I liked was "OUT OF STOCK" Everywhere online and Brick & Mortar. So, "Buy It Now" worked out.
So when I was a "kid" I bought what was then "the" pilot's watch. It was lost in a move. Ten years later I found my 500$ watch in a box I nearly tossed. I had lost the bezel years earlier. A new thing, the internet had come along, so I looked up a bezel for the watch I had bought, and worn, so long ago, my Rolex GMT 6542. The result nearly killed me. Are there really idiots that would pay that much?
I wish I could say I replaced the bezel with an original...I would have to sell a house. I did have it serviced (not cheap).
As to owning a watch you can't wear (my watch is probably worth a quarter of what my house is worth). Zooming down the highway on my Ironhead I sometimes think of the odds that, after an accident, would my watch still be with me but I still wear it, every day. I love that watch.
What I hate are collectors vacuuming up relics to put in their own museums, never to be enjoyed; driving the cost of ownership past the point of sanity. Now if someone would just send me a Bakelite bezel...
Seems pretty cheap for a house to be honest ...
david ervin could you name-drop some more products next time.
Aren't Rolex bezels unmarked? As long as it looks original it should be fine unless that is something that really, really bugs you.
How could you not appreciate that RQLEX Qyster Rerpetual. It just *screams* class
Just want to mention your english is very clear, you speak very clearly, I understood every word you said.
My personal number one: wearing two watches at the same time.
You saved me from fashion watches few months ago..Thanks
A pleasure!
Thank you for posting that.
Best regards,
TGV
I unfortunately was caught. Not that it's bad, but I bought exactly what was shown, a Daniel wellington for my wife. She loves it, but going forward I'll be researching as I've just started with watches
Same I came to the conclusion they aren’t well made and the movement of them sucks for the price.
Saved me from those huge blingy Invictas
2soccerfreak2 I'm sorry for you're loss
Honeslty I had my Seiko for 2 years now and it still works like I bought it yesterday... and got gifted a solar seiko as well and it still works great with me.
Of course it does 2 years is nothing.Mine is quartz and needs a battery replacement now after 10 years
Never had a bad Seiko in my entire life.
I love modding watches, the time it takes to learn to do things is the greatest journey, I’m getting into a eta movement for modding.
Apple watches and products are not meant to last for more than a couple years.
Aymanali Jumma And yet they do last longer than that.
I'm sure it varies from product to product, but I've got an iPod that's about ten years old at this point. It's scratched up with a dented backplate (probably from the time it rattled down a small cliff and got lodged in the roots of a tree) and the battery isn't great, but it still works as new. Doesn't see much use anymore, but when it does, it's fine.
Lifragen Change the battery, I assume you only get like 3 hours of battery.
@@wooferjr169 Something like that. I don't really use it on the go anymore, so I'm not sure a battery change would be worth it.
They will if you take care of them mines last forever and don’t even get a scratch on them 😂I just use a case and screen protector that I haven’t changed since I bought it doesn’t even have a crack on it and has been dropped multiple times
"In the valley of the blind, the one-eyed watch enthusiast with a high end Swiss watch is King."
I hear you... But I absolutely love my Vincero watch. White face, rose gold hands and hour markers, brown strap, kairos series. It was also my wedding present from my wife so it has a special meaning behind it for me, but I do get a lot of compliments on it as well. I do intend on picking up some mechanical movement watches down the line but for now I am incredibly content with my vincero.
And that's totally fine! The watch community is very snobby
@@toastbrotL1 Im new to watches and I have to agree. Ive seen a number of snobs online. A lot of the reasons Ive been told to avoid certain brands are actually irrelevant to me (and practically everyone I know). I get that watch enthusiasts prefer a watch with heritage and certain materials. But the ones Im interested in are leagues better, from an aesthetic standpoint, than the ones recommended to me (imo) and have been shown to be of good quality on unbiased reviews Ive read. So I would honestly just go for a good looking fashion-watch. As long as I'm not trying to impress anyone, it just makes more sense.
New to the channel but amazing info. I’ve loved watches since I was a boy and now that I’m an adult try to keep an eye out for key time pieces. Thank you for the knowledge and I look fwd to more videos.
Just getting into the hobby, I'm more of a enthusiasts than a collector. But thanks so much for all these tips!
Great video. Unfortunately, I've learned several of these lessons (gray market and unservicable timepieces). I will not repeat the mistakes again and have one additional insight for the smartwatch discussion. Even if you can purchase extra watches (sans precious metals) or additional internal components to use for potential repair work, the batteries have a service life of 2-3 years (thanks Apple for admitting this). A new battery purchased at the end of a production run will also last only 2-3 years. By that time, the battery will be replaced by a new design, making it incompatible with your smartwatch (whether precious metal or not). One ends up with an expensive and value-less paperweight in half a decade.
Excellent comment John. Thank you, especially for having the integrity to share this.
So often people do not what to admit their mistakes. You sir, are true Gentry!
Onwards and upwards.
Best regards,
TGV
I have bought several watches on the grey market. However they were only $200 or less. I think buying a luxury watch on the grey market is too dangerous. Sorry you had bad experiences.
John Clark I
John Clark I used to love my Pebble Steel for a great knock about smart watch. Hammer proof and had some really wonderful apps, worked beautifully as a smartphone companion. That is until Pebble went out of business. It's still usable but the app hasn't been updated in years and sends a lot of your personal information to a 3rd party. Shame about the Apple batteries and Companies making watches knowing they will last 2-3 years tops.
John Clark
I have a 30yr old Rolex submariner. I wear it everyday
I just like the look. I guess its bullet proof lol
I love this video. I worked in the jewellery trade for many years. I was proud to work for a moral and honest employer in Sheffield and I was a member of the British Horological Institute. That was about 20 years ago. I thought common sense, good morals and honesty was disappearing then I saw this video. It was very refreshing to see a young person promoting such integrity. I have a particular dislike for the 'grey market's having seen videos on RUclips of such operators, there is absolutely no care when they deal with lovingly made hand crafted pieces selling them in plastic bags after almost throwing them onto a counter surface. Thank you for restoring my faith in morals and honesty within the watch industry. I love the fact you wear a Casio watch too, the industry is not all about Rolex etc.
Thank you for mentioning the Bombay specials, aka the Indian frankens. I'm from India and it honestly hurts to see great pieces being painted over and sold unscrupulously on fleabay
They just use 1965 movements
and put them in brand new cases and dials mostly.,
@@stevenc8054what's wrong with that if you get a working watch for $32 with great movement
I've got a couple of those and to be honest... a lot of them look fucking great. Sure they run like absolute poop, but hey, for what you're paying...
I'm considering them as sacrificial watches to take apart to learn how to clean and oil mechanical watches and of course to change the crystals.
@@nicholasperri6005 The problem is you may only get a couple of wears out of it, as I did mine.
Willem Dafoe talking about watches 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Ehhh not really hair and jaw maybe about it
Really? He looks nothing like Willem Dafoe, to me he looks like a chav from some troubled council estate in England who made good.
I swear he tried to sell me a used car the other day
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Hi, I love your videos and I have to say that I agree with you almost at 95% with you.
I would like to ask you something about the new Omega Seamaster 300M Limited Edition James Bond 50th anniversary... Do you think is worthy to pay more than 2000€ over the standard 300M?
Just want to say thank you for your Knowledge on the subject I am going to buy my first "collectible" or "hand me down watch" real soon and you were very helpful.
First time I've heard someone talk about the pocket watch trap. Great work!
Thank you :D
Best regards,
TGV
The WROCKET brand from Hawaii seems like a decent conversion, done by a trained watchmaker and limited to only 'Hunter' style pocket watches. Don't own one or can afford one but I've read nice reviews.
I wear vintage Omega watches. Five manuals and one automatic. All six are excellent time keepers. But one was a problem. It was a Bombay special.
it worked for a while and quit. I have a good watch repairman. He took the watch apart and the movement was clued together. It is a 1943 black face
war watch. Very nice looking. This watch is a omega 26.5t3. They quite making this 15 jewel watch in the early 1950's. My repairman said the parts
were made out of unattainium. He said but in drawer and forget it. I did that, but every once in a while I would look at, In my eyes it is a beautiful watch.
So if the watch parts were not attainable, I decided to buy another 26.5T3 for parts. It took three tries. I got the right last December. its was made very close
to mine. The part came out of Australia. They look beat up. Put the movement was in great shape. My repairman just wanted to swap the movement.,
but I decided I wanted to keep its original numbers. So Dr Frankenstein did the work. And said it was a live. I went though quite a lot to fix this watch,
but damn. I wanted that watch fixed and fixed it is. It keeps excellent time, I believe very close to current watches. I wear this watch a lot.
Great video TGV best youtuber going, about to buy an skx saved up the money , buzzing for when I can buy it!
Thank you Bill, I am honoured.
I know exactly that buzz my friend, saviour and enjoy it my friend!
Best regards,
TGV
Thank you very mutch for this, I am definitly going to use this tips at my work.
After wanting a good watch for so long but worried about my budget you have inspired me to start a cheap collection. Casio edifice and gshock in the case so far and now looking at a bulova cheers
I take exception with your No. 1. Vortic Watches from Fort Collins, CO, appears to be a quality company that specializes in converting pocket watches into wristwatches and they stand behind their work.
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You have elements of Christopher Walken in your tone. Could you please try and do an American New York your accent? Cheers
" ya got me all wrong here, does your mother sow? Get her to sow this 'boom'"
I'm a new viewer, and I have two questions. What "grey market" watch place in New York was he talking about? And what is his name/nickname. He says his name a couple times in this video but he says if sooo fast and it sounds like an acronym? If someone can let me know. Thanx
Interesting & informative - Plus great to see a classic G Shock.
Great video TGV, your videos have stopped me from wasting my money on fashion watches. Instead I am putting money aside so that I can buy my own SKX007! Thanks for the continuous helpful advice.
YESSSSS!!!! So glad to hear it.
The SKX will be all the sweater. Enjoy it when it happens my friend,
Thank you for sharing that Shaw,
Best regards,
TGV
Awesome!!! Goodman
Great decision, I have an SKX007... I just love it and how you can play with straps. I’m sure you will enjoy that watch. Good luck!!!
Well done to you, Shaw!! A true enthusiast in the making!! You won't be dissappointed with the SKX! An awesome watch IMO!!
Thankyou for the kind words and encouragement. This is truly one of the nicest communities I’ve seen!
my god, so glad and surprising to hear Wagner's Tristan und Isolde at the beginning!!! Good taste!!!