nice to see the hobby advancing, but it amazes me how heated some get over DJI vs Shark Byte. Interested to see how this progresses in the coming year. Like you said, these are just toys that help us have fun and escape from the daily drama....no need to bring drama into the hobby. Thanks for the "Family Friendly" channel!
The fact that Shark Byte could be mounted in a whoop is quite a game changer and with combination of using "already had" goggle to most of people giving more added value. I guess it's true that this could be Beginning of the End of Analog :)
I am extremely happy with the system. The price point is great for those with a significant investment in analog. Like you I bought the HDO2 with the expectation of using it with the Shark byte system. No real complaints.
Awesome flying, Nick! 😃 You know what? I'm starting to like this system! 😂 I hope some company makes a better camera soon! Great review, as always! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Gotta be honest Nick, I'm not too sure about this. When I first started seeing footage of it, I was really impressed initially. But the more footage I see, the less impressed I am. It does look better than anolog, but honestly not by that much. It seems to do better indoors than outside, likely the camera. I know, I know, I need to see it in the goggles to really get a feel for it. But in all fairness, that's not needed for the DJI footage that's out there, it all looks good, goggles or youtube. I do like that we're getting away from analog though, and I think this is a great option for whoop and toothpick pilots. For larger quads or a more polished experience, well, we know what folks should get for that, lol ;)
Hey brother💪💪👊👊 I think same line of thought. But never had fataharks..Box to DJI for me. But when used analog adapter on DJI I personally thought this isn't bad... allot better than box. So for cost.. I think great option looks like can see scraggle? If so then that's big.. tree cruises are fun! Range check needed ??
Sure, I don't think it has that desired GoPro esq look to it and I do think its not as likely to get those flying primarily 5inch quads. I wonder how it would look at 4:3, which could be coming sometime soon....or that is the word on the street. I am hopefull with time we see camera improvements as well as firmware improvements. The tighter "competition" comes the tougher the decision but better for everyone using one system or another.
Totally agree. I was initially impressed, some footages are really good (some more than others) but... 1) it's better than analog, but no SO MUCH. 2) DJI, from what I saw on YT, is on another planet. Still, it is remarkable that we can have a digital fpv system on a 75mm 2s whoop.
I know what you mean, but honestly I had the same feeling with the DJI system. Much better than analogue, but I didn't have that wow amazing feeling like you see in some YT videos.
It's amazing that such a small board can pack this HD footage. For image quality the DJI is just better, but can't beat the small and light board fatshark made. Amazing for those whoop sized quads!
Honestly, the number of people hating on this system is kind of shocking. I think this looks like a really promising option! Especially because it can be used on whoops.
At least here the comments have been pretty reasonable, including those that don't like what they see or don't think its for them. I appreciate that. I have read and heard about a fair bit of negativity.
I've been waiting for this review !! Excellent work Nick, really gave a good look at this product. My opinion is I'll NEVER buy a DJI product, so I'm really excited to see this. Version 1 of this , I'll wait , and see how it's progressing, but I have a lot more respect for Fatshark's efforts to bring digital to us. Before everyone starts bashing me, remember, it's an opinion. You buy what you want, I'll buy what I want. DJI will get along just fine without me. As for the footage, I would have to see it in the goggles, RUclips is just too hard on HD footage.
And here I am with my Fatshark Dominator V1's all blinged out with faceplate and DVR and an AAK diversity. I still get a great picture and never had any issues. If I upgrade it will be Shark byte for sure.
@@NickBurnsFPV No, all black and not even a sticker. That way when I sell them Ill get decent money as it all looks well kept. Although hydrodipping might be an option.
Well here I am 3 years later finding out my dad has a old shark bite system sitting on the bench since he over a year ago upgraded to the hdzero goggles and i'm still flying analog. He forgot he had it but is now shipping it to me to try out. Thanks for the video. Its most definitely better then what i'm using. Hoping to pair it to a new whoop board and also the new freestyle v2 system. Even your old videos still helping us out! Thanks again.
I didn't expect this, I thought that Shark Byte was dead, but it's definitely a step forward for micro's and whoops. That inside flight video of Man Cave Hobbies looked really good. Bu I'll wait for the final version and some good camera options.
Looks great for people with 720p or more goggles with hdmi in. Love the size of the system, perfect for sub 250 gms. Great review - best one for micros I have seen, thanks.
Its Awesome you got one! Thanks to Dumbthumbs I think it looks good and I'm sure more tweaks will be done over time. Plus more cameras will come out. The biggest thing is the whoop board!😀 Good job Nick
Great review, thanks for not comparing to DJI and instead understanding the aim of the product and the cost to all of us real people that we have to deal with when being part of this hobby.
Not a problem. Having something so different and new on the market is exciting. I am hopeful this encourages others to enter the market as well as push the development of all fpv platforms forward.
This is the first time I've seen shark bite with indoor video. It really shows how good this system can be. The limiting factor is definitely the camera because outdoors it looks like garbage.
Any amount of competition with a monopoly (DJI) can only be a good thing, pricing is definitely better and we, the consumers can only benefit from Shark Byte's existence can only be a good thing and hopefully a sign of more good to come! I'm personally quite excited about this whoop-size board and seeing it on a 75mm 2s build. Thanks!
90% of my flying will be a King Kong ET115, and the whoop board is the reason I'll go this route. That, and I also have HD3's, and on Social Security, I'm not starting over with DJI. But it's the whoop board that's won me over. Just need to be able to see those branches and power lines better, and Shark Byte seems to do it well enough. Not DJI quality, but half again better than analog. Thanks for the video!
Hmm, this is certainly the most useful video about this system on youtube so far. And its the first one that shows a use case where it can do something better then DJI. This Whoop Board is really interesting.
Thank you. I appreciate the compliment. The two options others that have come up with that I think is also interesting and maybe something that could be done in short order is to separate OSD from the recording, or have the ability to disable it and another to add onboard recording to have the best possible recording.
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Our Family really appreciate the clean family friendly videos we watch them on our TV and everyone gathers around it's funny my kids here your video and come running "Nicks on" Thanks Sir your definitely one of a kind.
Great video Nick! Thanks. I’m a DJI fanboy but this looks pretty sweet! Yep, digital whoopin’ is what I am most interested in too! Keeping my Fatsharks for now. DJI & happymodel collab is my dream...
Nice review. I like the “it is another product” approach (I.e. in comparison to DJI). I am delighted to see more competition in the hd-fpv world. Thanks!
I'm glad this is out, it's definitely gonna be my X-mas present to myself! DJI's image quality is superior, but I can stick this on my existing goggles, stick the board in my Armattan Tadpole, and Bob's yer uncle, as Andy would say..! Then, with the same goggles, I can easily fly all my analog whoops. Yay! Plus, I just feel good supporting a company that's contributed massively to this hobby's very existence from the beginning, and supported it and the community for years, in numerous ways. No, still no power button (grrr), but their products are good and their customer service is second to none!
I've watched lots of reviews of Shark Byte and this is the first I've seen of the whoop board. Thanks Nick. I like what I see with this system. By the time I can afford it, I'm sure lots of improvements will have been made.
Well Mr. Nick Burns, you Sir once again have shown me that you know how to make an even handed and fair review and why I watch and buy from your channel. Is the system perfect? Nope none are. Will it hopefully get better over time? Yup I'm very happy this is on your channel as I really don't like watching my videos and invite other's opinions in a fair non bias way. Once again great job and much respect to you
I would like to know more about signal penetration on same mw output compared to analog and dji. Because that signal penetration is what keeps me going with DJI. Image quality is secondary, and I can imagine when Foxeer makes a Shark Byte cam, that would boost image quality for it through the roof
The reason DJI has such better penetration isnt that the signal magically has less noise, its that the goggles have a self healing telemetry link that can ask for a retransmission of lost bit
@@jackdowns6122 that is DJI does not have better penetration but it forces you to wait for better image and only god knows where actually you copter is in the meantime ?
@@jackdowns6122 well that doesn't change the fact that I want to know the signal penetration of Shark Byte. No matter how DJI is doing their stuff. I can fly with flyable, non stuttering image, where I would be in snow with analog. For me it's just about the performance, I don't quite care which company releases what, it just has to be the best for my usage, since I do that for a living (I'm one of that 1% Nick talked about :D). So in short: would love to see some examples or hear insights about overall signal penetration. Better than Analog? Worse? I'm open minded about Shark Byte at the moment, so I'm just collecting informations about it :) will test it myself soon(ish)
@@attackemartin worse than analog, i used the sharkbyte and rapid fire in the same location and my rapid fire module performed better. The break up from the sharkbyte system gets really bad when you start going behind objects, with analog you can see through the break up ans have a chance to get out of it. Unfortunately with shark byte it freezes and glitches, its a common thumbnail people are using for sharkbyte vids.
Good video Nick, you've changed my opinion on the shark bite system for the most part, if this is something I'll have or want too put across my fleet of micro's the price may have to adjust a bit first. Other than that, great video as usual my friend very informative!!👍👍👍
Great video again nick! It will be fairly interesting when there are more camera options. Maybe a great way to step up to HD even I just ordered some ev300o googles. Looking forward to see more ...
I appreciate how fair you are or maybe realistic your reviews are. Feel like your giving us all the info you have so we know what's going on but it's fair to the companies your reviewing. And if something is not so good you let us know.
Thank you. Its rare I am sold on something. I can enjoy it and it not be my favorite quad or component. I prefer for the videos to be fun and informative. I might not have all the technical details, but share my experience.
For freestyle pilots who doesn't want to mess with DJI by various reasons, SharkByte seems worth to try. Especially ones who have HD resolution googles with OLED and LCOS screens and HDMI input should achieve noticeably good results. You actually convinced me to try SharkByte too. Would like to try that HD whoop build :)
I have been surprised to read on RCGroups how quickly Carl of Divimath has been making software adjustments. We shall see what comes soon enough...or at least I hope soon.
looking forward to this .. and now I have seen it from an HONEST reviewer im sold thank you nick what a great greta review and delighted for the fat shark lads who stuck with the program and made this happen .. brilliant video performance and can only get better over time .. so so happy with this and this is so early in the progress .. thanks a lot nick .. your video could of easily passed for DJI IMHO.. things are looking great for us at FPV .and @nick burns for president :}
I'm still really happy flying with my fxt viper goggles, and the option to integrate through hdmi input has me interested. For that matter, being able to sit down in certain environments with a laptop to use as your flying interface that friends could watch along with you while you fly could be fun. I'm definitely glad to see the whoop style board as an option for the vtx. I could see 3 & 4" builds really taking advantage of that.
Excellent review as always. I feel like now interested any person might be in this depends on what they fly (size). As someone who doesn't get many wind-free days and not a big enough house to actually fly in, I personally stick to 3 inch and bigger (at least for now). As in regards to price, I'm kinda torn. I think the price is alright for someone who already owns a decent pair of goggles, however if you do not the price is going to end up similar to DJI as for initial buy, anyway. Please do correct me if I'm wrong. In my current situation (and as someone who already owns DJI and my old goggles are the ev800D's) I am happy I picked DJI. That said, I am looking forward to Orqa's open-source digital FPV system too.
The system is amazing! The picture quality and almost flawless transmission and reception! I’m going to be a late buyer but I will be after winter👍 the flexibility of any compatible goggles and an open source camera incentive for innovation!
Excellent review Nick as all ways, just got DJI which is great but would be amazing if they introduced a whoop size board like fatshark, I live in hope. Have a great day. All the best David.
Thanks for this fair review. ! I hope sharkbyte could be support to be better every day. It’s an impressive VTX/VRX and Cam HD system for FPV. I waited to fight against DJI. Or maybe The ORQA HD module beeing better.
Im definetly geting SB during spring as i fly small quads mainly where even naked vista is bit heavy and dont want to get DJI just for five inches as i dont fly em that often.
So many negative videos on the interwebs about this system. Glad you showed some positives. You do have a pleasant down to earth speaking tone . You just earned a sub, Keep up the solid content!
Ah I see you have a few videos on your channel. Do you have any of the 75mm with the dvr of the vista? Maybe in your shop? If you do I would like to see it. Thank you
@@NickBurnsFPV the only ones I have are currently posted on my same channel. Did you see those ? I’m currently buying a house so less flying but I’m getting my 107 right after and many more vids to come.
Thanks for this review. I've only ever flown DJI and haven't been interested in analog. I really feel like I'm missing out on being able to fly tiny drones in and around the house though. I'm very impressed with the quality of the video you've shown. It's better than my P16 with the nebula camera. I'll wait a while but I'm seriously interested in Shark Byte with Whoops.
If DJI could manufacture a whoop board, it would be game over for Shark Byte, but as it is, i quite like the thought of an add on onto your goggles, it's defiantly a step in the right direction.
competition is good. Maybe DJI will have a response, I suspect there is some portion of the fpv market not going DJI for one reason or another, leaving the door open for Fat Shark.
Dude, best review of shark byte yet. More interested in your tiny whoop & it's tune. Kinda giving up on trying to tune my Tiny Hawk S 2 & winter is on the way. Can you point me in the right direction in getting your set up? Get that 15 year old racking some leaves! My 3 are all grown & out of the house. Got to throw out the garbage myself now.
Thank you. The frame is the mobula 7 v3 or trashcan frame. Crazybee v3 fc with integrated Rx, happymodel 1103 8000kv, but I think I want 9000 or even 10000kv motors, AE65 canopy, gemfan 40mm props and of course shark byte. I would need to look at the tune to remember. I think I am running BF4.2. I did have to modify the rubber grommets to bring down the FC a bit and still leave a gap between battery and usb port. I am sure we will be out this weekend on the leaves, he has been doing it on his own so far, time to step in and show him how to work efficiently😉.
glad to see digital on a micro. I've seen that DJI goes further but I much prefer one latency of the sharkbyte. now if only they will make a box goggle set with hdmi input for my glasses i'll be a customer (currently FS Scout owner)
I'm hoping it will work with ftx vipers. I love mine, and they are excellent for glasses. Unfortunately they are only 480p, though viper could make an upgraded screen. Eachine goggles v2 fit some glasses and I think they are 1080. Both goggles have hdmi in
Even with the slight improvement this makes to video quality and breakup, I feel it improves our flying confidence exponentially. In terms of an investment, it seems like the VRX module is pretty well polished at this price point assuming one already owns a decent pair of analog goggles. The primary focus next would hopefully be camera and VTX improvements (quality/weight/size/costs) assuming FS collaborates with other manufacturers.
I would agree with your assessment. I wouldn't be surprised if we see some big leaps in camera development soon. The camera companies have to see that future business, be it 1 year or more, will be in digital fpv.
That is actually better than I expected, I'm a DJI user but it sure looks like Fatshark has the whoop market wrapped up. It's just a shame they bake the osd into the video, with the DJI it's there when you fly but it's not baked in the recording, I prefer that, I hope they add that as an option as on I think one of Bardwells videos you could still see the osd even though the video signal had gone bad, suggesting that the osd is being baked in on the headset and not at the quad side.
I wonder what the challenge of separating OSD data from video data is? I do appreciate the OSD does look and record more natively, especially useful for me do micro reviews, OSD is a key element to judging performance.
I really enjoyed your video. I am not much in to woops, though But I found yours very much enjoyable and have to admit I own a few. You remind me of someone, but I cannot place a face. Any who, I very much enjoyed the video, thanks and keep flying. :)
I think the beginning of the end of analog was in fpv terms eons ago ( 12 -18 months). Committed $$ already to DJI so I will wait for DJI/Caddx to a make something smaller. BTW: Looks good.
I am quite biased about it. I really like the look of the footage inside. Clear, crisp,... but outside it doenst look as sharp as i wished it to be. But it is whoop-capable, so... let's see how it developes. Thanks for your time and review!
Even though I have dji and analog I still want shark byte too! Definitely benefits of each it seems. Plus I have a problem and just want to buy everything fpv related! I think it's super exciting. Anything new and innovative is good for the hobby in my opinion. Great video! First I've seen of the smaller board.
Great review a always, this is the first time seeing the shark byte system it looks ok but its early days for it yet so lets watch this space. Nice flying I love them race gates I'm going to look into getting some of them atm I only have the hoops that hang from the ceiling and everyone walks into them so the led ones would suit more. thanks for sharing...
That footage looks really good, which is encouraging because the Shark Byte reviews I've seen so far have been a mixed bag. Can you confirm what others are saying about it looking even better in the googles than the DVR? :) Also, when are you going do a proper rip around the backyard so we can get a sense of how the latency affects your flights?
I do believe it looks better in the goggles. I think the dvr isn't as good and I think viewing it on a larger device makes it look "less good". I think testing latency with flight we would want inside flight. The precision and action is a much higher degree flying inside. But I am up for that. I might wait until the second unit I pre-ordered comes in, I wouldn't want to be shark byte down. 😄
@@NickBurnsFPV haha, it's just that I've seen the way you normally fly (a pilot after my own heart) so I did think you were baby it a bit in that backyard and wanted to yell, "come on Nick, take the training wheels off". 😂 But fair enough about not wanting to wreck it. Looking forward to more reviews 👍
@@kandredfpv Ah yes, I do understand now. Yes outside flight was very tame, I was trying to be smooth so the image could be studied. I am sure I will be flying it more. As I want to make sure it can stand up to more crashes. The camera might get damaged with its nose sticking way out there, but the board needs to be able to handle the frequent shocks of crashes.
I think you’ve found a good use for this on whoops, but I’m already into DJI with a super micro 3” TorqueFPV Hornet and this can’t compare in terms of range or quality. Gotta believe they’ll get it even smaller soon. Yes this is cheaper and competition is good. Great review.
Gday Nick, wow you got a shark bite system to review, well done not comparing it to dji like everyone else has, mate i love what im seeing so far for micros and whoops, fatshark will refine it and make it even better i cant wait to hopefully get one, quick tip: use the lawnmower to rake the leaves!! more time to fly that way lol, awsome work and great review mate.👍🛸
I feel like the dji definitely has an edge on image quality (hopefully new cameras And firmwares will help), but the fact that the fatshark digital can fit in a 75mm on the first iteration is pretty encouraging. Hopefully subsequent versions will be even smaller since I feel like the dji isn't particularly viable for fun flying sub 2.5"-3".
In a way, or the back of my mind, I feel like FatShark had to get something out before much more of the market moved into the DJI garden. I don't think this was hurried, but I also feel like we will see firmware changes/improvements very soon.
So true I'd also love to see it fit in my module BAY 🤣 but all good things will hopefully come in time and by that I mean are time not about 5 years or more
I'm happy to see an alternative to DJI, and I think the picture quality looks fairly similar to that of the Nebula. The part of the Shark Byte I think should be significantly improved is the snow-like pixelization when the signal gets low. I'd love to see better algorithms for what actually gets output to the display when there is picture data missing. Maybe it doesn't have the processing power to do it, but if data is missing from a certain pixel, why not take the data from adjacent pixels and copy it into the missing portions? Kind of like the video upscaling functionality of a lot of TVs. Or at the very least.... If data is missing, don't have the default pixel color be bright white. Make it black, or dark gray, or any other color that isn't a super bright beacon of failed reception!
I would not be surprised if we see a change similar to what your thinking. My understanding is the VRx hardware is final but software is moving forward with changes on both the VRx and VTx.
I'm just curious How different is it from traditional analog in person? RUclips tends to degrade the original quality and in most videos I have seen, it looks like Analog but with a digital pixel block break up instead of the old VCR Player static tv breakup. I cant see much increase in the visual details. DJI hit the market and there was a very clear difference in video strength and quality. And im not sure if such a defined difference ruined "Digital FPV" by being such a dramatic difference so quickly. Is the performance and quality worth the price of changing an analog fleet to Shark Byte? Is it different enough from analog? I added DJI to my FPV fleet last year and have built some small HD Drones under 250g AUW and its been a blast, i still have a few whoops like my Mobula 6 (picked up the mob6 because of your review, thank you) and Tinyhawk I can fly on the DJI system with my analog mod, and spectate my friends who fly analog at the field too and its been a well rounded experience. We have a field we fly at locally that is a great fun place to fly, but the video interference is just terrible, its so bad im not sure why we fly there haha, and the first time i flew there with the DJI system, i didnt even have a single Hiccup and didn't drop below 40mbps on the 50mb mode. I was blown away. anyways, please let me know what the difference was like in person through your eyeballs!
The difference from analog to SB is very apparent in the goggles, its not as dramatic as analog to dji. I don't know if its the image or the latency, I feel more "connected" to the quad and its flight. I think the image will become more crisp as camera vendors understand the capability of the transmission system.
@@NickBurnsFPV For sure, because as it stands the runcam outdoors looks like something you've asked me politely not to describe in your comments section.
nice to see the hobby advancing, but it amazes me how heated some get over DJI vs Shark Byte. Interested to see how this progresses in the coming year. Like you said, these are just toys that help us have fun and escape from the daily drama....no need to bring drama into the hobby. Thanks for the "Family Friendly" channel!
the difference between adults and children is the price of their toys
The fact that Shark Byte could be mounted in a whoop is quite a game changer and with combination of using "already had" goggle to most of people giving more added value. I guess it's true that this could be Beginning of the End of Analog :)
The indoor flight is so much nicer holy moly 😳
Likely why my bias kicks in, I fly daily in the house, recent days, this one has been my pre-bed flyer.
This really opens so many doors for us I remember the first analog cameras to what they are now wow.
I am extremely happy with the system. The price point is great for those with a significant investment in analog. Like you I bought the HDO2 with the expectation of using it with the Shark byte system. No real complaints.
Seems a reason why purchase HDO2 at all. From other side I'm curious about how SB receiver can fit on Skyzone SKY04X.
Awesome flying, Nick! 😃
You know what? I'm starting to like this system! 😂
I hope some company makes a better camera soon!
Great review, as always! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Word over at RCG is there are 2 or more coming. What does that mean, idk how soon :(
I really like seeing you use your LED gates in your review. It does a good job at showing well the camera will do in darker environments.
Its a nice addition for sure. Do you fly led gates?
Gotta be honest Nick, I'm not too sure about this. When I first started seeing footage of it, I was really impressed initially. But the more footage I see, the less impressed I am. It does look better than anolog, but honestly not by that much. It seems to do better indoors than outside, likely the camera. I know, I know, I need to see it in the goggles to really get a feel for it. But in all fairness, that's not needed for the DJI footage that's out there, it all looks good, goggles or youtube. I do like that we're getting away from analog though, and I think this is a great option for whoop and toothpick pilots. For larger quads or a more polished experience, well, we know what folks should get for that, lol ;)
Hey brother💪💪👊👊 I think same line of thought. But never had fataharks..Box to DJI for me. But when used analog adapter on DJI I personally thought this isn't bad... allot better than box. So for cost.. I think great option looks like can see scraggle? If so then that's big.. tree cruises are fun! Range check needed ??
Sure, I don't think it has that desired GoPro esq look to it and I do think its not as likely to get those flying primarily 5inch quads. I wonder how it would look at 4:3, which could be coming sometime soon....or that is the word on the street. I am hopefull with time we see camera improvements as well as firmware improvements. The tighter "competition" comes the tougher the decision but better for everyone using one system or another.
Totally agree. I was initially impressed, some footages are really good (some more than others) but... 1) it's better than analog, but no SO MUCH. 2) DJI, from what I saw on YT, is on another planet. Still, it is remarkable that we can have a digital fpv system on a 75mm 2s whoop.
I know what you mean, but honestly I had the same feeling with the DJI system. Much better than analogue, but I didn't have that wow amazing feeling like you see in some YT videos.
he cant even go half around his house
It's amazing that such a small board can pack this HD footage. For image quality the DJI is just better, but can't beat the small and light board fatshark made. Amazing for those whoop sized quads!
Great video! Best review and functionality test I’ve seen on the sharkbyte yet!
Thank you. Glad to hear it was enjoyable/useful.
Honestly, the number of people hating on this system is kind of shocking. I think this looks like a really promising option! Especially because it can be used on whoops.
At least here the comments have been pretty reasonable, including those that don't like what they see or don't think its for them. I appreciate that. I have read and heard about a fair bit of negativity.
I've been waiting for this review !! Excellent work Nick, really gave a good look at this product. My opinion is I'll NEVER buy a DJI product, so I'm really excited to see this. Version 1 of this , I'll wait , and see how it's progressing, but I have a lot more respect for Fatshark's efforts to bring digital to us. Before everyone starts bashing me, remember, it's an opinion. You buy what you want, I'll buy what I want. DJI will get along just fine without me. As for the footage, I would have to see it in the goggles, RUclips is just too hard on HD footage.
YES! The experience in the goggles is better in my opinion, but this really hard to translate in a video format.
did DJI kill you father or something ?
And here I am with my Fatshark Dominator V1's all blinged out with faceplate and DVR and an AAK diversity. I still get a great picture and never had any issues. If I upgrade it will be Shark byte for sure.
Did you paint to do a design on your goggles as well?
@@NickBurnsFPV No, all black and not even a sticker. That way when I sell them Ill get decent money as it all looks well kept. Although hydrodipping might be an option.
Well here I am 3 years later finding out my dad has a old shark bite system sitting on the bench since he over a year ago upgraded to the hdzero goggles and i'm still flying analog. He forgot he had it but is now shipping it to me to try out. Thanks for the video. Its most definitely better then what i'm using. Hoping to pair it to a new whoop board and also the new freestyle v2 system.
Even your old videos still helping us out! Thanks again.
I didn't expect this, I thought that Shark Byte was dead, but it's definitely a step forward for micro's and whoops. That inside flight video of Man Cave Hobbies looked really good. Bu I'll wait for the final version and some good camera options.
Looks great for people with 720p or more goggles with hdmi in. Love the size of the system, perfect for sub 250 gms. Great review - best one for micros I have seen, thanks.
Looks like a win for whoops. I think I'll wait for more camera options before pulling the trigger on this. Great review 👏
Yea I want to ask foxeer about their digital. A Hebrew shark byte video had it
Yeah, OSD in all shark byte videos is cristal clear, but the whole image not perfect. I think better cameras can improve situation significantly!
Its Awesome you got one! Thanks to Dumbthumbs I think it looks good and I'm sure more tweaks will be done over time. Plus more cameras will come out. The biggest thing is the whoop board!😀 Good job Nick
Sweet. Looks really good in the house and better than I expected in the dark.
Great review, thanks for not comparing to DJI and instead understanding the aim of the product and the cost to all of us real people that we have to deal with when being part of this hobby.
Not a problem. Having something so different and new on the market is exciting. I am hopeful this encourages others to enter the market as well as push the development of all fpv platforms forward.
I'm pleased that fatshark has made the shark byte camera and transmitter technology non-proprietary
much better than DJI
This is the first time I've seen shark bite with indoor video. It really shows how good this system can be. The limiting factor is definitely the camera because outdoors it looks like garbage.
I am hopeful we will see new cameras shortly, as to how quickly they will come to the channel idk.
You deserve the Shark Byte system! Thank you DumbThumbs XD
Any amount of competition with a monopoly (DJI) can only be a good thing, pricing is definitely better and we, the consumers can only benefit from Shark Byte's existence can only be a good thing and hopefully a sign of more good to come! I'm personally quite excited about this whoop-size board and seeing it on a 75mm 2s build. Thanks!
90% of my flying will be a King Kong ET115, and the whoop board is the reason I'll go this route. That, and I also have HD3's, and on Social Security, I'm not starting over with DJI. But it's the whoop board that's won me over. Just need to be able to see those branches and power lines better, and Shark Byte seems to do it well enough. Not DJI quality, but half again better than analog. Thanks for the video!
Hmm, this is certainly the most useful video about this system on youtube so far. And its the first one that shows a use case where it can do something better then DJI. This Whoop Board is really interesting.
Thank you. I appreciate the compliment. The two options others that have come up with that I think is also interesting and maybe something that could be done in short order is to separate OSD from the recording, or have the ability to disable it and another to add onboard recording to have the best possible recording.
Bagger on a riding mower is like a leaf vacuum. Works like a charm.
Our rider threw a rod or something. It was going to cost $500+ to repair and its 12 years old. Our 15 year old had been borrowing a neighbors pusher mower. I asked him if he preferred the pusher or rider, he wanted a pusher. He might be regretting that now. 😂
Our Family really appreciate the clean family friendly videos we watch them on our TV and everyone gathers around it's funny my kids here your video and come running "Nicks on" Thanks Sir your definitely one of a kind.
I watch from start to finish everytime!
Thank you. I hope you enjoy or get some useful information from each minute!
Everyone: The end of analog FPV
Me, just starting FPV: Investing into analog FPV gear such as the new Sky04x
I think shark byte will work with those goggles
There are already videos of people using the sky04x and Shark byte, you're good bro! Mine are in the Mail and on their way. Can't wait :)
Same, I am just getting into the hobby but I went the DJI > Dijidapter route. Gonna fly some analogs before I get into the expensive digital ones.
@@blackwater7183 definitely cheaper to crash and replace analog gear haha
SB works really well on sky04x, coming from personal experience
First Shark Byte whoop content I have seen. Great job! Great to see. :)
Thank you
Great video Nick! Thanks. I’m a DJI fanboy but this looks pretty sweet! Yep, digital whoopin’ is what I am most interested in too! Keeping my Fatsharks for now. DJI & happymodel collab is my dream...
Nice review. I like the “it is another product” approach (I.e. in comparison to DJI). I am delighted to see more competition in the hd-fpv world.
Thanks!
I'm glad this is out, it's definitely gonna be my X-mas present to myself! DJI's image quality is superior, but I can stick this on my existing goggles, stick the board in my Armattan Tadpole, and Bob's yer uncle, as Andy would say..! Then, with the same goggles, I can easily fly all my analog whoops. Yay! Plus, I just feel good supporting a company that's contributed massively to this hobby's very existence from the beginning, and supported it and the community for years, in numerous ways. No, still no power button (grrr), but their products are good and their customer service is second to none!
I've watched lots of reviews of Shark Byte and this is the first I've seen of the whoop board. Thanks Nick. I like what I see with this system. By the time I can afford it, I'm sure lots of improvements will have been made.
I have been told they are actively working on improvements, I think mainly on the firmware side.
great review I think micros is where this system shines at the moment
Amazing. HD on whoops and it can only get better from here.
Excellent review! This is exactly mind kinda flying and what I wanted to see. Gonna be a fun winter
Digital on a whoop!! 😳😳🤯 that was exciting
Well Mr. Nick Burns, you Sir once again have shown me that you know how to make an even handed and fair review and why I watch and buy from your channel. Is the system perfect? Nope none are. Will it hopefully get better over time? Yup I'm very happy this is on your channel as I really don't like watching my videos and invite other's opinions in a fair non bias way. Once again great job and much respect to you
Thank you, and thank you for alerting me to this development and advocating for the channel. Much appreciated!🔥
I would like to know more about signal penetration on same mw output compared to analog and dji.
Because that signal penetration is what keeps me going with DJI.
Image quality is secondary, and I can imagine when Foxeer makes a Shark Byte cam, that would boost image quality for it through the roof
The reason DJI has such better penetration isnt that the signal magically has less noise, its that the goggles have a self healing telemetry link that can ask for a retransmission of lost bit
@@jackdowns6122 that is DJI does not have better penetration but it forces you to wait for better image and only god knows where actually you copter is in the meantime ?
@@jackdowns6122 well that doesn't change the fact that I want to know the signal penetration of Shark Byte.
No matter how DJI is doing their stuff. I can fly with flyable, non stuttering image, where I would be in snow with analog.
For me it's just about the performance, I don't quite care which company releases what, it just has to be the best for my usage, since I do that for a living (I'm one of that 1% Nick talked about :D).
So in short: would love to see some examples or hear insights about overall signal penetration. Better than Analog? Worse?
I'm open minded about Shark Byte at the moment, so I'm just collecting informations about it :) will test it myself soon(ish)
@@attackemartin worse than analog, i used the sharkbyte and rapid fire in the same location and my rapid fire module performed better. The break up from the sharkbyte system gets really bad when you start going behind objects, with analog you can see through the break up ans have a chance to get out of it. Unfortunately with shark byte it freezes and glitches, its a common thumbnail people are using for sharkbyte vids.
@@bashka_if6525 oh, I don't know that (about how DJI gets such pseudo penetration). Nice!
Good video Nick, you've changed my opinion on the shark bite system for the most part, if this is something I'll have or want too put across my fleet of micro's the price may have to adjust a bit first. Other than that, great video as usual my friend very informative!!👍👍👍
HD making its way to whoops is really exciting. Looking forward to the future.
Great video again nick! It will be fairly interesting when there are more camera options. Maybe a great way to step up to HD even I just ordered some ev300o googles. Looking forward to see more ...
Absolutely also it pushes innovation and grows the hobby for us
I love this guy
This is my favorite Shark Byte review. It's exactly why I'm interested in the system and exactly how I would utilize it. Hmmmmm. Thanks Nick!
I appreciate how fair you are or maybe realistic your reviews are. Feel like your giving us all the info you have so we know what's going on but it's fair to the companies your reviewing. And if something is not so good you let us know.
Thank you. Its rare I am sold on something. I can enjoy it and it not be my favorite quad or component. I prefer for the videos to be fun and informative. I might not have all the technical details, but share my experience.
Well done Nick👍
For freestyle pilots who doesn't want to mess with DJI by various reasons, SharkByte seems worth to try. Especially ones who have HD resolution googles with OLED and LCOS screens and HDMI input should achieve noticeably good results. You actually convinced me to try SharkByte too. Would like to try that HD whoop build :)
Great video! This seems perfect for micros and there is the possibility that it may improve.
I have been surprised to read on RCGroups how quickly Carl of Divimath has been making software adjustments. We shall see what comes soon enough...or at least I hope soon.
looking forward to this .. and now I have seen it from an HONEST reviewer im sold thank you nick what a great greta review and delighted for the fat shark lads who stuck with the program and made this happen .. brilliant video performance and can only get better over time .. so so happy with this and this is so early in the progress .. thanks a lot nick .. your video could of easily passed for DJI IMHO.. things are looking great for us at FPV .and @nick burns for president :}
Glad you enjoyed the video. I don't have any political aspirations 😂
I'm still really happy flying with my fxt viper goggles, and the option to integrate through hdmi input has me interested. For that matter, being able to sit down in certain environments with a laptop to use as your flying interface that friends could watch along with you while you fly could be fun. I'm definitely glad to see the whoop style board as an option for the vtx. I could see 3 & 4" builds really taking advantage of that.
Excellent review as always. I feel like now interested any person might be in this depends on what they fly (size). As someone who doesn't get many wind-free days and not a big enough house to actually fly in, I personally stick to 3 inch and bigger (at least for now). As in regards to price, I'm kinda torn. I think the price is alright for someone who already owns a decent pair of goggles, however if you do not the price is going to end up similar to DJI as for initial buy, anyway. Please do correct me if I'm wrong. In my current situation (and as someone who already owns DJI and my old goggles are the ev800D's) I am happy I picked DJI. That said, I am looking forward to Orqa's open-source digital FPV system too.
The system is amazing! The picture quality and almost flawless transmission and reception! I’m going to be a late buyer but I will be after winter👍 the flexibility of any compatible goggles and an open source camera incentive for innovation!
I hope we see even more developments coming soon.
I think fatshark is goin in the right direction
Excellent review Nick as all ways, just got DJI which is great but would be amazing if they introduced a whoop size board like fatshark, I live in hope. Have a great day. All the best David.
competition could promote a move in that direction.
Great review 👍🏻....looking forward to its development for those of us who love flying micros & whoops. Thank you 🙏
Shark Byte is looking really good indoors!
Thanks for this fair review. !
I hope sharkbyte could be support to be better every day. It’s an impressive VTX/VRX and Cam HD system for FPV. I waited to fight against DJI. Or maybe The ORQA HD module beeing better.
Im definetly geting SB during spring as i fly small quads mainly where even naked vista is bit heavy and dont want to get DJI just for five inches as i dont fly em that often.
You're such a nice guy, I really appreciate this channel, Thank you for you work!
Thank you. I appreciate you taking some time from your day to watch and comment. Have a great weekend. Hopefully weather is good for your flights.
I think it looks quite good. And it fits in a micro!
Yours is the review we've been waiting for!
Looks like a go-pro in comparison to the analog cam. Definitely gonna look into this once the tech gets cheaper.
So many negative videos on the interwebs about this system. Glad you showed some positives. You do have a pleasant down to earth speaking tone . You just earned a sub, Keep up the solid content!
Thank you, I appreciate it.
You fly awesome!
Your house is beatiful too!
Thank you. Just like flying we continue to improve the house over the years.
Great review, Been waiting for Fatshark to come out with this !! very exciting !!!!
DJI is very good, but not for me......
I’m flying this 75mm with the crazybee board and naked vista nebula 52 g w/o battery . Man she fly’s solid and indoors for 5 mins on 500 mah 2/3s
Ah I see you have a few videos on your channel. Do you have any of the 75mm with the dvr of the vista? Maybe in your shop? If you do I would like to see it. Thank you
@@NickBurnsFPV the only ones I have are currently posted on my same channel. Did you see those ? I’m currently buying a house so less flying but I’m getting my 107 right after and many more vids to come.
@@NoiseBoysGarage The videos I was looking at all seem to be shot with insta360go.
bravo.
really refreshing philosophy. they ARE toys, and it is fun..... regarding cursing, you sold your argument very well.
Thanks for this review. I've only ever flown DJI and haven't been interested in analog. I really feel like I'm missing out on being able to fly tiny drones in and around the house though. I'm very impressed with the quality of the video you've shown. It's better than my P16 with the nebula camera. I'll wait a while but I'm seriously interested in Shark Byte with Whoops.
I'm excited to see what Orca's HD system will look like.
They're making one? Very interesting! Is it a module?
Croatian HD go go go!
@@cinialvespow1054 I'm not sure but i assume so. They say it will be compatible with existing analog goggles so assume so.
@@nikfpv3456 It will probably be awesome, but I'd be shocked if it was released in 2021.
If DJI could manufacture a whoop board, it would be game over for Shark Byte, but as it is, i quite like the thought of an add on onto your goggles, it's defiantly a step in the right direction.
competition is good. Maybe DJI will have a response, I suspect there is some portion of the fpv market not going DJI for one reason or another, leaving the door open for Fat Shark.
Hey Nick I really like that built. 👍👍👍👍👍
How wonderfull 😍 great news and great review.
nice job Nick.
The video I needed to see from you.
Wow! Wow!
I really like the small size of the vtx!
thank you for a very fair report of your experience.
I value your experience
Thank you
Dude, best review of shark byte yet. More interested in your tiny whoop & it's tune. Kinda giving up on trying to tune my Tiny Hawk S 2 & winter is on the way. Can you point me in the right direction in getting your set up? Get that 15 year old racking some leaves! My 3 are all grown & out of the house. Got to throw out the garbage myself now.
Thank you. The frame is the mobula 7 v3 or trashcan frame. Crazybee v3 fc with integrated Rx, happymodel 1103 8000kv, but I think I want 9000 or even 10000kv motors, AE65 canopy, gemfan 40mm props and of course shark byte. I would need to look at the tune to remember. I think I am running BF4.2. I did have to modify the rubber grommets to bring down the FC a bit and still leave a gap between battery and usb port. I am sure we will be out this weekend on the leaves, he has been doing it on his own so far, time to step in and show him how to work efficiently😉.
glad to see digital on a micro. I've seen that DJI goes further but I much prefer one latency of the sharkbyte. now if only they will make a box goggle set with hdmi input for my glasses i'll be a customer (currently FS Scout owner)
I'm hoping it will work with ftx vipers. I love mine, and they are excellent for glasses. Unfortunately they are only 480p, though viper could make an upgraded screen. Eachine goggles v2 fit some glasses and I think they are 1080. Both goggles have hdmi in
Even with the slight improvement this makes to video quality and breakup, I feel it improves our flying confidence exponentially.
In terms of an investment, it seems like the VRX module is pretty well polished at this price point assuming one already owns a decent pair of analog goggles. The primary focus next would hopefully be camera and VTX improvements (quality/weight/size/costs) assuming FS collaborates with other manufacturers.
I would agree with your assessment. I wouldn't be surprised if we see some big leaps in camera development soon. The camera companies have to see that future business, be it 1 year or more, will be in digital fpv.
That is actually better than I expected, I'm a DJI user but it sure looks like Fatshark has the whoop market wrapped up.
It's just a shame they bake the osd into the video, with the DJI it's there when you fly but it's not baked in the recording, I prefer that, I hope they add that as an option as on I think one of Bardwells videos you could still see the osd even though the video signal had gone bad, suggesting that the osd is being baked in on the headset and not at the quad side.
I wonder what the challenge of separating OSD data from video data is? I do appreciate the OSD does look and record more natively, especially useful for me do micro reviews, OSD is a key element to judging performance.
I really enjoyed your video. I am not much in to woops, though But I found yours very much enjoyable and have to admit I own a few. You remind me of someone, but I cannot place a face.
Any who, I very much enjoyed the video, thanks and keep flying. :)
I think the beginning of the end of analog was in fpv terms eons ago ( 12 -18 months). Committed $$ already to DJI so I will wait for DJI/Caddx to a make something smaller. BTW: Looks good.
I am quite biased about it. I really like the look of the footage inside. Clear, crisp,... but outside it doenst look as sharp as i wished it to be. But it is whoop-capable, so... let's see how it developes. Thanks for your time and review!
I don't see your bias in the comment? In that regard your perspective is perfectly reasonable.
Even though I have dji and analog I still want shark byte too! Definitely benefits of each it seems. Plus I have a problem and just want to buy everything fpv related! I think it's super exciting. Anything new and innovative is good for the hobby in my opinion. Great video! First I've seen of the smaller board.
Buy buy buy!
Me too, getting rather expensive but can't seem to help it!
Great review a always, this is the first time seeing the shark byte system it looks ok but its early days for it yet so lets watch this space. Nice flying I love them race gates I'm going to look into getting some of them atm I only have the hoops that hang from the ceiling and everyone walks into them so the led ones would suit more. thanks for sharing...
Uff! Next Level🤩🔥💯
That footage looks really good, which is encouraging because the Shark Byte reviews I've seen so far have been a mixed bag. Can you confirm what others are saying about it looking even better in the googles than the DVR? :)
Also, when are you going do a proper rip around the backyard so we can get a sense of how the latency affects your flights?
I do believe it looks better in the goggles. I think the dvr isn't as good and I think viewing it on a larger device makes it look "less good". I think testing latency with flight we would want inside flight. The precision and action is a much higher degree flying inside. But I am up for that. I might wait until the second unit I pre-ordered comes in, I wouldn't want to be shark byte down. 😄
@@NickBurnsFPV haha, it's just that I've seen the way you normally fly (a pilot after my own heart) so I did think you were baby it a bit in that backyard and wanted to yell, "come on Nick, take the training wheels off". 😂
But fair enough about not wanting to wreck it. Looking forward to more reviews 👍
@@kandredfpv Ah yes, I do understand now. Yes outside flight was very tame, I was trying to be smooth so the image could be studied. I am sure I will be flying it more. As I want to make sure it can stand up to more crashes. The camera might get damaged with its nose sticking way out there, but the board needs to be able to handle the frequent shocks of crashes.
Dude, thanks for posting! Wow, colorful word, OMG, colorful word - this is going to go so well with my other toys.
I think you’ve found a good use for this on whoops, but I’m already into DJI with a super micro 3” TorqueFPV Hornet and this can’t compare in terms of range or quality. Gotta believe they’ll get it even smaller soon. Yes this is cheaper and competition is good. Great review.
Gday Nick, wow you got a shark bite system to review, well done not comparing it to dji like everyone else has, mate i love what im seeing so far for micros and whoops, fatshark will refine it and make it even better i cant wait to hopefully get one, quick tip: use the lawnmower to rake the leaves!! more time to fly that way lol, awsome work and great review mate.👍🛸
I suspect your lawn mower use will need a mulching blade. We started the fire pit this morning and using that to supplement the job.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes mate it has mulching blades then we spread it in the garden/veggie beds and work it in for the next spring/summer Nick.👍🛸
I feel like the dji definitely has an edge on image quality (hopefully new cameras And firmwares will help), but the fact that the fatshark digital can fit in a 75mm on the first iteration is pretty encouraging. Hopefully subsequent versions will be even smaller since I feel like the dji isn't particularly viable for fun flying sub 2.5"-3".
In a way, or the back of my mind, I feel like FatShark had to get something out before much more of the market moved into the DJI garden. I don't think this was hurried, but I also feel like we will see firmware changes/improvements very soon.
Great work as always Nick.
I like the separate module because I always put the separate module on the car roof while I pilot from sitting on my driver seat for quick get-away.
Lol that’s funny. It does make us more spy like being in the car
Just. subbed. Good video. I’m learning a ton from your videos.
Thank you
I'd love to see this combined with something like a runcam split so we get the best of both worlds in one small light package.
🥃cheers🍻
baby steps, I think they are focusing on the transmission and cameras first.
So true I'd also love to see it fit in my module BAY 🤣 but all good things will hopefully come in time and by that I mean are time not about 5 years or more
@@jackdaniels7913 surely not that long lol.
I'm happy to see an alternative to DJI, and I think the picture quality looks fairly similar to that of the Nebula. The part of the Shark Byte I think should be significantly improved is the snow-like pixelization when the signal gets low. I'd love to see better algorithms for what actually gets output to the display when there is picture data missing. Maybe it doesn't have the processing power to do it, but if data is missing from a certain pixel, why not take the data from adjacent pixels and copy it into the missing portions? Kind of like the video upscaling functionality of a lot of TVs. Or at the very least.... If data is missing, don't have the default pixel color be bright white. Make it black, or dark gray, or any other color that isn't a super bright beacon of failed reception!
I would not be surprised if we see a change similar to what your thinking. My understanding is the VRx hardware is final but software is moving forward with changes on both the VRx and VTx.
I'm just curious How different is it from traditional analog in person? RUclips tends to degrade the original quality and in most videos I have seen, it looks like Analog but with a digital pixel block break up instead of the old VCR Player static tv breakup. I cant see much increase in the visual details. DJI hit the market and there was a very clear difference in video strength and quality. And im not sure if such a defined difference ruined "Digital FPV" by being such a dramatic difference so quickly. Is the performance and quality worth the price of changing an analog fleet to Shark Byte? Is it different enough from analog?
I added DJI to my FPV fleet last year and have built some small HD Drones under 250g AUW and its been a blast, i still have a few whoops like my Mobula 6 (picked up the mob6 because of your review, thank you) and Tinyhawk I can fly on the DJI system with my analog mod, and spectate my friends who fly analog at the field too and its been a well rounded experience. We have a field we fly at locally that is a great fun place to fly, but the video interference is just terrible, its so bad im not sure why we fly there haha, and the first time i flew there with the DJI system, i didnt even have a single Hiccup and didn't drop below 40mbps on the 50mb mode. I was blown away.
anyways, please let me know what the difference was like in person through your eyeballs!
The difference from analog to SB is very apparent in the goggles, its not as dramatic as analog to dji. I don't know if its the image or the latency, I feel more "connected" to the quad and its flight. I think the image will become more crisp as camera vendors understand the capability of the transmission system.
It looks so much better indoors than outside.
Yes, we need to see more cameras. Possibly a befit of this system is open camera development.
@@NickBurnsFPV For sure, because as it stands the runcam outdoors looks like something you've asked me politely not to describe in your comments section.
@@flaparoundfpv8632 lol, gotcha