Love it Bruce as usual, however 1. The unit goes into 25mw mode when the craft isn't armed and has a protection circuit as well 2. On RCG some in the community are trying to get the OSD to work with other things and Divimath is also trying to reach out. 3. If you would like a 200mw whoop board I can probably get you one
thank you bro! the reason i didnt use omnis in my review was because i wanted to see what the system looked like when it broke up and having omnis on would have made that alot harder.
Btw Caddx Vista with Nebula Nano (which seems about equivalent to this camera) is 24.9g with a TrueRC Singularity. Naked one is 13.4g total which is about a gram(?) heavier than this. Roughly 1.2g more with "naked" DJI camera or about 5g more with full DJI camera. I don't think anyone buys the original Air Units anymore 😄 My 75mm 2s digiwhoop is 38.6g dry, runs perfectly fine for 4 minutes on 300mAh 2S (19.5g) or 5 minutes on 450mAh 2S packs (28.5g). My 3" digipick is 59g dry and runs 4.5 min on 300mAh 3S (28g) to 6min on 450mAh 3S (42g) or even the same 450mAh 2S I use on digiwhoop for some more relaxed cruising (I've gone up to 8 min on that). So yeah, you don't need this overpriced crap for small light crafts 🙂
If the firmware was opened sourced as you suggest, that would make things really interesting indeed. I think the noise / breakup could be made a lot less noticeable / distracting at the expense of a using a little more bandwidth. Price is the biggest issue with SharkByte for me, as other people have commented.
Hello, When you are going to test it out in the fields, please do a head-to-head comparison against a good _analog_ system. (Behind trees, in high multipath environment etc, where analog typically weak.) I think this product shouldn't be compared to DJI (we already know DJI is much better everywhere). I'm interested in if it's worth the price to invest, to get a better link then my analog, and below the price of a DJI.
there is a video somewhere of someone doing a test between the sharkbyte and DJI, the DJI out preformed it in penetration ability but it could be down to the antenna choice.
With Shark Byte system costing about the same if not more than a Vista Kit per quad, you would only need to sell your analog goggles for 529-250=279 (price of DJI goggles minus price of Shark Byte video receiver thingie) to break even when going for DJI instead. I think math is pretty clear there if you have HDO or better... 🙂 Kinda annoyed when people say Shark Byte is cheaper than DJI when it's really the same for a few quads and becomes more expensive for large fleets if you go with DJI radio and use the free built-in RX on Air Units/Vistas.
@@FilipRadelic That might be true. Another interesting factor is, what DJI is cooking. From _marketing point of view_, a DJI 2 or something would not be a surprise in this market situation, which would turn the whole thing upside down, I think.
I just installed a Shark Byte system on a 3" toothpick with the whoop board and the Foxeer Digisight V2 camera. For my needs - proximity freestyle flying (-1km) its perfect. With OLED goggles the video and DVR is recognizably a step above RapidFire analog.
Love it! The fact I can still use my T2's with this is gold. And on another thought I could (Theoretically) switch between my regular analog units and the Digi with just a flick of a switch on the goggles. REALLY looking to getting one for my future whoop class drones....and others likely too. Glue some heat sinks to them little amps for double cooling I thinking or similar. 🤘😁
I love when you become technical Bruce..you are very welcome to check how much noise it causes and how it can affect, for example, crossfire ... the temperature is something that makes me stressed. I am currently building a tbs wing and am thinking about how I can minimize the heat development on my tbs vtx, is currently leaning towards an alu heatsink but nothing has been carved in stone yet ..
One thing I prefer about this design over the DJI system is the ability to mount the receiver onto my antenna tracker with a cable to the goggles to keep it pointing at the model with high gain directional antennas. Looking forward to trying it out at some point.
@S Grim Yes Fatshark don't own the codec so DJI would only have to ask HDzero and go over their heads to support it. 😄 That said it would be easier and make more sense to stick with their own hardware and release a fixed latency racing mode that didn't reject damaged frames. 😀
@S Grim Yes I suggested that to another user to try a while back but the issue with spectator mode is the length of the distortions as they can corrupt subsequent frames and cover large portions of the view. What DJI need to do is use a slightly different codec and confine distortions to individual frames.
oh my days are We there, I have been out of the FPV loop, last time the DJI digital was a new thing, Thanks for the Heads-up Bruce, this looks very interesting, especially if they open up for the Code.
I have the gutfeeling that this is more suited for FPV-flight as it is closer to the analogue low-contrast picture as the almost GoPro-like DJI HD system. The latter is more close to an HD-stream that you suppose to receive from a camera for editing and publishing. While the SharkByte would enable FPV flight in a more challengine scenario (great contrast, trees and bushes, electric wires and other obstacles that might be difficult to see on DJI). Just a gut feeling based on RUclips videos, since I haven't tried any of the two. I fly analogue and am a newbie.
you just have to listen carefully for the second "i" in he word but pronounce it differently .The speed of pronunciation is what make's the second "i" seemingly silent . The speed of NIUM sounds like NUM , hahahaaaa, fun fun fun ,take care Magic FPV .
Connect on a large screen (HD monitor or TV) anything from 10-24 inch so that some of us who fly fpv on screens can have a better idea of the improvements from analogue
Try getting your hands on a ground rc vehicle, and mount the fpv setup on that to review how it performs so close to the ground. From my understanding (though there has not been many test of that either) the DJI digital system works poorly so close the the ground, when used on ground vehicles. I find it a bit fun to explore the world (woods around me, and even my garden), from such a low perspective.
Even if software goes opensource, i don't think there's much to improve in terms of video quality and signal reception. I'm pretty sure the video processing algorithm is locked in asic, and all you can improve is OSD and channel switching. Opensource hardware on the other hand, where eachine/rush/iflight and likes of it could pick up the chips and build their own boards with their own rf part. That'd be cool.
What would I like to see? How it fits / flies on ever smaller craft at 25mW (UK limit). I am sub-250 exclusively (the writing was on the wall when starting this 3 years ago), from 4" AUW 195g down to 2" AUW 80g, not including tinywhoop sized ones. These all have very small and light analogue transmitters and cameras. It seems likely to me that whilst digital quality is nice (ignoring cost), the downside in performance / flight time due to weight would outweigh it. I also think latency is - for me - absolutely key. I had some experience in changing latency on a simulator, and increases definitely affected my performance, even though I couldn't really feel it.
So I know im a day late (err more like 36-something days late) and a dollar short (plus interest...) But... You mention that the unshielded VTx can cause interference with other RF systems... While not *specifically* related to shark byte, I would love to see methods of reducing that interference, beyond the normal "keep things apart". I have an AXN (thanks to your videos actually) that I'm putting together to run ardupilot. I'm not far from the maiden (with the FC, I've flown it LOS already) and cramming everything in there while "keeping things apart" is... Uhh... Yeah it's not happening. A way to shield things like spurious emissions from the VTx, the telemetry radio, etc. Especially from the GPS or Rx would be great to know. Not too keep on wrapping boards in aluminum foil so yeaaaaaaa.... Doubtful you'll notice this comment but hell, worth a shot. Might even cross post to a more recent video of yours! You're a wealth of knowledge and believe it or not i first heard of you long before YT. It was a forum/site where you discussed early (relative to today) tech for a homemade LCCM. Oh the good ole days!
And I was hoping for a full 50page datasheet read :( well guess the chip was designed for specific stuff and not for brawd use but still I'd Love to read it , especially I wonder if the osd can be made to update faster
Mr B, I want to see you in your F1 Racing Suit, with the Sting helmet, for effect, I want to see you on the race track, fly it around some gates, get some one else involved and race them ;-)
caddx vista, remove heat sinks pair with nebula. Same weight as Shark Byte and as bad as the nebula is it's still a far better experience then this aside from the latency so Racing is probably the only market I could viably see for this product?
I would like you to do some math in one of the videos on how cost effecting this really is for your average FPV pilot with a few crafts if they only need to sell your HDO2s for $279 to get the DJI system at this same price. For new pilots I hope it's pretty clear to everyone that DJI is cheaper than this. Now some people might say you maybe you want to keep some crafts analog. No, no you don't. Proper digital ruins analog for you. Unless you're a racer then you'll still just stay on top end analog for now because it has less abrupt breakup even if there's more of it.
I would like to see a comparison of how it works on a plane. I am pretty sure you can come up with a plane where you can put both this and the DJI on the same plane for a side-by-side in-flight comparison. Theoretically, the same craft could handle analog as well.
@@EnglishTurbines Are you talking about Clashing with RF interference? If so, I think they should not do that and, if they did, that would also be good to know: the fact that you cannot have the different systems running at the same time in close proximity.
@@EnglishTurbines I assume you are referring to the Inverse-Square Law (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law). That really only applies if the device on the aircraft is a Transceiver and not a Transmit only device AND if they are all operating on the same band. If they are on different bands or all Transmit only devices, then that should not be an issue. Also, in a race situation, racing quads get awfully close to each other. It is surprising the number of mid-air collisions during a quad race. So it might not be that far off and a plane does provide the room to space out the antennas. The big advantage of putting them all on one plane at the same time is it provides the best side-by-side comparison as it allows for a split-screen with the cameras getting the same image with identical lighting and with as close as possible angles.
Do you still have your sky02? Or any other non oled goggles? Have been searching for someone to plug this in an older/cheaper set of googles. The benifit of shark byte is the modularity as i see it. You dont have to change everything at once.
I think i am a flyer that will suit me down to the ground, ok! My situation! I've been building and flying quads for about 5years. As i have not a lot of money, i have slowly progressed to having Fatshark Dom 3vs i bought them when they come out because they had hdmi in and that was my limit of cost, me being into quality ( always had full frame cameras Now got a 4k tv and i only like 16x9 !! Now!! Yes i would by DJI tomorrow but at that price No,So this option is ideal for me because at the moment my True d module is on its last legs so if i can by this system for , say ,£275.00 uk thats me sorted!!. Anyway as you can have a good look at the board, to see if there are any failings, are what you think they might improve on in the future ie dissipation of heat, the components they use , and do you think they could make it any smaller, ( i know they have the 20x20 board,) Its just that i don't want to jump into to soon if you think it might be upgraded within a couple of months!! Many thanks, keep them coming!!!
Not compelling at the current nearly $400 price tag especially for new comers you get more with dji for the same price two air units even. Racers don't NEED this. So this really is a nice to have.
Hi, was looking forward for your review. I've heard that this system is interfering with gps, can you check the 1.3 to 1.5ghz spectrum where the gps is operating? I suspect that the csi interface in from the camera to the vtx is the source of this. I've seen it also with a raspberry camera that is interfering with gps.
How do you get on with wearing godgles when you ware glasses I an 67 and want to try some fpv But I am put of the cost in case I get some my eyes don’t like thanks
Would be great to see info on the aspect ratio in practice. The format of the camera, the vtx and the goggle module hdmi output. Does it allow 4:3 right through from camera to glass for 4:3 goggles?
IMO I would think this is going to be a mid tiered product. Better than analog, not as good as DJI. Personally I think it's overpriced for what it is. I'm gonna wait unit they come out with with the full google and or just get the DJI. If DJI had micro stuff for my toothpicks I would have switched already.
I've got a pair of those old fatsharks. Do you know the model number or anywhere I can get documentation about them? I'm new to fpv and was gonna buy a tinyhawk to use with those goggles but wasn't sure if they are worth it? Like are they any good?
when you said latency is measured in days for you and not milliseconds I lost it😂🤣great stuff im 17 and really have the same thing. probably couldn't even tell the difference between like 5 or 30 ms tbh
LOL you've got a little adaptor here for changing things ….things like what ? …the reason I am watching this is to understand what everything does but this is still funny … THIS is FOR changing THINGS LOL !
I have decided to wait until digital is better than analog in everyway. I literally go through a average of 5 to 3 vtxs in a race day. I got another one of those scam advertisements. It was along the lines of jewelry has not advanced in centuries. A 'brain' got fired for designing this incredible item. It then showed generic Jewelry, but it's probably plastic. I don't even use it! I haven't even turned off personalised ads.
Please can you demonstrate how the system only works properly with a 16:9 hdmi input, and not ANY hdmi input like they claim. This system works terrible with HDO1 or anything other than HDO2 imo. If you could discover why on earth they are sending a 16:9 video and cropping the sides off for 4:3 rather than the other way round, it would be interesting. For me as a racer, the system is totally useless without 4:3 and good FoV, this has the worst FoV ever, I suspect it is because if there was more detail for the system to display it would look worse than a lot of analogue feeds, so they cropped the image in significantly to give it a small chance of looking better than analogue. It is so obviously still AHD.
PS.... I will send you my ByteFrost system if you had a use for it. From what I see it is identical to this 'new' system, just different packaging and a 'mipi' cable
@@TheCarl1206 I tried to tell you how to improve the system over a year ago when I 'beta' tested (4:3 sent from camera, ribbon cable for the 2 board design not pins, M3 mounting not M2 and many other suggestions), and all have been ignored. Make the original transmission 4:3 900px vertical (to match the goggles you have designed them around!), then crop to 16:9 720, the camera you use has 4:3 sensor after all, so maybe use all of it and get some usable FoV.
i'd be interested if you can get rid of the purple fringing of the camera by changing the lens. In my eyes, the image this camera is producing is, lets say, not very good.... Way to contrasty in sky and stuff up close has horror purple fringing bands....
They raised the price way to high for all most 400 bucks not worth the money. All in at the 250 it was at good buy but for the new price it is junk compared to dji I'm getting rid of all my hdo2 and analog and going to dji just because I wanted this fatsh shark byte but they got stupid and raised it up way high.see take fatshark
Love it Bruce as usual, however
1. The unit goes into 25mw mode when the craft isn't armed and has a protection circuit as well
2. On RCG some in the community are trying to get the OSD to work with other things and Divimath is also trying to reach out.
3. If you would like a 200mw whoop board I can probably get you one
Bruce, talked to Divimath/fatshark and they is sending you a whoop board and send it to you faster
Excellent!
Thank you guys both for getting Bruce Set up to do a review.. Not a foamie vid yet...go for it Bruce!!
Awesome!
thank you bro! the reason i didnt use omnis in my review was because i wanted to see what the system looked like when it broke up and having omnis on would have made that alot harder.
Btw Caddx Vista with Nebula Nano (which seems about equivalent to this camera) is 24.9g with a TrueRC Singularity. Naked one is 13.4g total which is about a gram(?) heavier than this. Roughly 1.2g more with "naked" DJI camera or about 5g more with full DJI camera. I don't think anyone buys the original Air Units anymore 😄
My 75mm 2s digiwhoop is 38.6g dry, runs perfectly fine for 4 minutes on 300mAh 2S (19.5g) or 5 minutes on 450mAh 2S packs (28.5g). My 3" digipick is 59g dry and runs 4.5 min on 300mAh 3S (28g) to 6min on 450mAh 3S (42g) or even the same 450mAh 2S I use on digiwhoop for some more relaxed cruising (I've gone up to 8 min on that). So yeah, you don't need this overpriced crap for small light crafts 🙂
If the firmware was opened sourced as you suggest, that would make things really interesting indeed. I think the noise / breakup could be made a lot less noticeable / distracting at the expense of a using a little more bandwidth. Price is the biggest issue with SharkByte for me, as other people have commented.
Hello, When you are going to test it out in the fields, please do a head-to-head comparison against a good _analog_ system. (Behind trees, in high multipath environment etc, where analog typically weak.) I think this product shouldn't be compared to DJI (we already know DJI is much better everywhere). I'm interested in if it's worth the price to invest, to get a better link then my analog, and below the price of a DJI.
there is a video somewhere of someone doing a test between the sharkbyte and DJI, the DJI out preformed it in penetration ability but it could be down to the antenna choice.
With Shark Byte system costing about the same if not more than a Vista Kit per quad, you would only need to sell your analog goggles for 529-250=279 (price of DJI goggles minus price of Shark Byte video receiver thingie) to break even when going for DJI instead. I think math is pretty clear there if you have HDO or better... 🙂 Kinda annoyed when people say Shark Byte is cheaper than DJI when it's really the same for a few quads and becomes more expensive for large fleets if you go with DJI radio and use the free built-in RX on Air Units/Vistas.
@@FilipRadelic That might be true. Another interesting factor is, what DJI is cooking. From _marketing point of view_, a DJI 2 or something would not be a surprise in this market situation, which would turn the whole thing upside down, I think.
I just installed a Shark Byte system on a 3" toothpick with the whoop board and the Foxeer Digisight V2 camera. For my needs - proximity freestyle flying (-1km) its perfect. With OLED goggles the video and DVR is recognizably a step above RapidFire analog.
Yay finally! Great to hear your thoughts. Open that sauce!
Love it! The fact I can still use my T2's with this is gold. And on another thought I could (Theoretically) switch between my regular analog units and the Digi with just a flick of a switch on the goggles. REALLY looking to getting one for my future whoop class drones....and others likely too. Glue some heat sinks to them little amps for double cooling I thinking or similar. 🤘😁
It doesn't matter how many others have reviewed a product. I don't go with it until it has been "Bruced"!!
Or Skidooshed!
I love when you become technical Bruce..you are very welcome to check how much noise it causes and how it can affect, for example, crossfire ... the temperature is something that makes me stressed. I am currently building a tbs wing and am thinking about how I can minimize the heat development on my tbs vtx, is currently leaning towards an alu heatsink but nothing has been carved in stone yet ..
One thing I prefer about this design over the DJI system is the ability to mount the receiver onto my antenna tracker with a cable to the goggles to keep it pointing at the model with high gain directional antennas. Looking forward to trying it out at some point.
Looking forward to your thoughts on how they look through the HD2's.
Hi Bruce, I'm looking forward to your test on the HD2s , I have pair that I love and wonder if this would work well with this
Me too. I've got hd2 and wondering would i see any improvement on 800x600 screen.
A side-by-side visual latency comparison would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Bruce!
I think someone did that already , not sure who but iw seen it and it's like 1-2ms + compared to analogue
Would be hilarious if DJI updated their firmware to allow decoding of HDzero streams. 😆
@S Grim Yes Fatshark don't own the codec so DJI would only have to ask HDzero and go over their heads to support it. 😄 That said it would be easier and make more sense to stick with their own hardware and release a fixed latency racing mode that didn't reject damaged frames. 😀
@S Grim Yes I suggested that to another user to try a while back but the issue with spectator mode is the length of the distortions as they can corrupt subsequent frames and cover large portions of the view. What DJI need to do is use a slightly different codec and confine distortions to individual frames.
What would be the point though, FS box goggles are meh.
Finally! Now that theres some competition, hopefully the prices will start coming down
oh my days are We there, I have been out of the FPV loop, last time the DJI digital was a new thing, Thanks for the Heads-up Bruce, this looks very interesting, especially if they open up for the Code.
I have the gutfeeling that this is more suited for FPV-flight as it is closer to the analogue low-contrast picture as the almost GoPro-like DJI HD system. The latter is more close to an HD-stream that you suppose to receive from a camera for editing and publishing. While the SharkByte would enable FPV flight in a more challengine scenario (great contrast, trees and bushes, electric wires and other obstacles that might be difficult to see on DJI).
Just a gut feeling based on RUclips videos, since I haven't tried any of the two. I fly analogue and am a newbie.
“Alooominum if you buy the the American one” 😂 (9:22)
you just have to listen carefully for the second "i" in he word but pronounce it differently .The speed of pronunciation is what make's the second "i" seemingly silent . The speed of NIUM sounds like NUM , hahahaaaa, fun fun fun ,take care Magic FPV .
It needs a heatsink though..working on the bench they recomend you have a fan on it even at 25mw it will go into over heat protection without airflow
Connect on a large screen (HD monitor or TV) anything from 10-24 inch so that some of us who fly fpv on screens can have a better idea of the improvements from analogue
You had me at penetration on the xjet video,.. "aluminum case if you buy the American one" LOL
for low latency control, people now use IRC Ghost, TBS Tracer and the Redpine Protocol with Multiprotocol Modules and SPI RX's
I think a pad of thermal transfer material and additional heat think can help with cooling. Waiting for whoop board :)
Freaking love DJI HD. I hate there business practices and sold all my GPS platforms years ago but this HD system is GREAT on planes as well.
Try getting your hands on a ground rc vehicle, and mount the fpv setup on that to review how it performs so close to the ground. From my understanding (though there has not been many test of that either) the DJI digital system works poorly so close the the ground, when used on ground vehicles. I find it a bit fun to explore the world (woods around me, and even my garden), from such a low perspective.
Fantastic review, Bruce! 😃
Pretty much spot on!
Stay safe and flying there! 🖖😊
Even if software goes opensource, i don't think there's much to improve in terms of video quality and signal reception. I'm pretty sure the video processing algorithm is locked in asic, and all you can improve is OSD and channel switching.
Opensource hardware on the other hand, where eachine/rush/iflight and likes of it could pick up the chips and build their own boards with their own rf part. That'd be cool.
I'd love to see what you can do with the image settings. Comparing stock to what you think looks best.
What would I like to see?
How it fits / flies on ever smaller craft at 25mW (UK limit). I am sub-250 exclusively (the writing was on the wall when starting this 3 years ago), from 4" AUW 195g down to 2" AUW 80g, not including tinywhoop sized ones. These all have very small and light analogue transmitters and cameras. It seems likely to me that whilst digital quality is nice (ignoring cost), the downside in performance / flight time due to weight would outweigh it.
I also think latency is - for me - absolutely key. I had some experience in changing latency on a simulator, and increases definitely affected my performance, even though I couldn't really feel it.
Can't wait to see it on a wing up in the clear skies. Not getting dizzy around a tree or building....
So I know im a day late (err more like 36-something days late) and a dollar short (plus interest...) But...
You mention that the unshielded VTx can cause interference with other RF systems... While not *specifically* related to shark byte, I would love to see methods of reducing that interference, beyond the normal "keep things apart".
I have an AXN (thanks to your videos actually) that I'm putting together to run ardupilot. I'm not far from the maiden (with the FC, I've flown it LOS already) and cramming everything in there while "keeping things apart" is... Uhh... Yeah it's not happening. A way to shield things like spurious emissions from the VTx, the telemetry radio, etc. Especially from the GPS or Rx would be great to know. Not too keep on wrapping boards in aluminum foil so yeaaaaaaa....
Doubtful you'll notice this comment but hell, worth a shot. Might even cross post to a more recent video of yours! You're a wealth of knowledge and believe it or not i first heard of you long before YT. It was a forum/site where you discussed early (relative to today) tech for a homemade LCCM. Oh the good ole days!
Any update on this? Would love to hear your opinion and see some flight footage.
Can't wait for the upcoming videos!!! :D
We want you to keep doing you Bruce!
Was waiting for your review :) Also i have the Skyzones Sky03o and wait for you to mount it on them and test!!!
And I was hoping for a full 50page datasheet read :( well guess the chip was designed for specific stuff and not for brawd use but still I'd Love to read it , especially I wonder if the osd can be made to update faster
Mr B, I want to see you in your F1 Racing Suit, with the Sting helmet, for effect, I want to see you on the race track, fly it around some gates, get some one else involved and race them ;-)
Bruce - was this an unboxing video ? ; o )
Keep on doing what makes you happy - it clearly works for all of us.
I like it. can’t wait for a goggle combo or a integrated system.
Nice video 👍👍
Finally someone who gets it. Nice review.
You are awesome. Thanks for this can't wait to see more!
It´s always the copter guys reviewing this. Put it on a plane. Show the visual quality and the range in that environment.
caddx vista, remove heat sinks pair with nebula. Same weight as Shark Byte and as bad as the nebula is it's still a far better experience then this aside from the latency so Racing is probably the only market I could viably see for this product?
1080P HDMI to AV Adapter HD Video Composite Converter Box could be the answer to the adding it to older goggles
What do you think
I would like you to do some math in one of the videos on how cost effecting this really is for your average FPV pilot with a few crafts if they only need to sell your HDO2s for $279 to get the DJI system at this same price. For new pilots I hope it's pretty clear to everyone that DJI is cheaper than this.
Now some people might say you maybe you want to keep some crafts analog. No, no you don't. Proper digital ruins analog for you. Unless you're a racer then you'll still just stay on top end analog for now because it has less abrupt breakup even if there's more of it.
I would like to see a comparison of how it works on a plane. I am pretty sure you can come up with a plane where you can put both this and the DJI on the same plane for a side-by-side in-flight comparison. Theoretically, the same craft could handle analog as well.
Sounds like a terrible idea, all clashing with each other, ruining everything...Pointless basically.
@@EnglishTurbines Are you talking about Clashing with RF interference? If so, I think they should not do that and, if they did, that would also be good to know: the fact that you cannot have the different systems running at the same time in close proximity.
@@bitogre There's close proximity, and then there's 3 systems on a single plane. Which is not the same thing at all.
@@EnglishTurbines I assume you are referring to the Inverse-Square Law (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law). That really only applies if the device on the aircraft is a Transceiver and not a Transmit only device AND if they are all operating on the same band. If they are on different bands or all Transmit only devices, then that should not be an issue.
Also, in a race situation, racing quads get awfully close to each other. It is surprising the number of mid-air collisions during a quad race. So it might not be that far off and a plane does provide the room to space out the antennas.
The big advantage of putting them all on one plane at the same time is it provides the best side-by-side comparison as it allows for a split-screen with the cameras getting the same image with identical lighting and with as close as possible angles.
@@bitogre Thankyou for proving what I kind of knew already...You have no idea how FPV works.
Bruce you sir ...... amazing
Do you still have your sky02? Or any other non oled goggles? Have been searching for someone to plug this in an older/cheaper set of googles. The benifit of shark byte is the modularity as i see it. You dont have to change everything at once.
When you said tailor, I really thought you were going to follow it with Swift.
When are you going to release the in depth review?
I would love to see a wing review. I have a nano goblin sub 250 with analog and I fly inav.
Please hook it up to a decent 5 inch Monitor Bruce... Remember us Box Goggle and Periscope Goggle users...!!!...It's got its own DVR...just noticed.
do you think its possible to make those digital video transmitters much more small?
I think i am a flyer that will suit me down to the ground, ok! My situation! I've been building and flying quads for about 5years. As i have not a lot of money, i have slowly progressed to having Fatshark Dom 3vs i bought them when they come out because they had hdmi in and that was my limit of cost, me being into quality ( always had full frame cameras
Now got a 4k tv and i only like 16x9 !! Now!! Yes i would by DJI tomorrow but at that price No,So this option is ideal for me because at the moment my True d module is on its last legs so if i can by this system for , say ,£275.00 uk thats me sorted!!.
Anyway as you can have a good look at the board, to see if there are any failings, are what you think they might improve on in the future ie dissipation of heat, the components they use , and do you think they could make it any smaller, ( i know they have the 20x20 board,)
Its just that i don't want to jump into to soon if you think it might be upgraded within a couple of months!!
Many thanks, keep them coming!!!
Not compelling at the current nearly $400 price tag especially for new comers you get more with dji for the same price two air units even. Racers don't NEED this. So this really is a nice to have.
What dbi are the stock directional antennas? I cant find any information on them anywhere.
Hi, was looking forward for your review. I've heard that this system is interfering with gps, can you check the 1.3 to 1.5ghz spectrum where the gps is operating? I suspect that the csi interface in from the camera to the vtx is the source of this. I've seen it also with a raspberry camera that is interfering with gps.
How do you get on with wearing godgles when you ware glasses I an 67 and want to try some fpv But I am put of the cost in case I get some my eyes don’t like thanks
Would be great to see info on the aspect ratio in practice. The format of the camera, the vtx and the goggle module hdmi output. Does it allow 4:3 right through from camera to glass for 4:3 goggles?
The SB module allows you to set output to 4:3 aspect to any goggle.
IMO I would think this is going to be a mid tiered product. Better than analog, not as good as DJI. Personally I think it's overpriced for what it is. I'm gonna wait unit they come out with with the full google and or just get the DJI. If DJI had micro stuff for my toothpicks I would have switched already.
It is over priced alright
those pach are cp right handed antennas?
Please pop in to a plane as everyone does quads
What does it taste like? None of the other reviews answered this question.
Unfortunately, Parkinson's has robbed me of my sense of smell and taste so I'm no longer qualified to answer your question :-D
I've got a pair of those old fatsharks. Do you know the model number or anywhere I can get documentation about them? I'm new to fpv and was gonna buy a tinyhawk to use with those goggles but wasn't sure if they are worth it? Like are they any good?
I'd like to see it flown in a Nano Goblin.
Hey mate, Can Fat shark goggles be used for watching 360 camera videos as well as FPV ?
For example. TheSecretVault channel has nice drone footage and 360 stuff: ruclips.net/video/x4MqBj8mgoY/видео.html
when you said latency is measured in days for you and not milliseconds I lost it😂🤣great stuff im 17 and really have the same thing. probably couldn't even tell the difference between like 5 or 30 ms tbh
Nice and good point abbout opensource hd software bruce
Banggood now have listing for the parts... nesrly the same as a vista or more for the bigger vtx like you have sadly
POGGg I just realised your kiwi and live in New Zealand aye I’m not alone
LOL you've got a little adaptor here for changing things ….things like what ? …the reason I am watching this is to understand what everything does but this is still funny … THIS is FOR changing THINGS LOL !
I wouldn't call that divimath pdf thing a datasheet as their is no real information how one could use such a chip. More like a sales brochure
Have you ever heard of ADI? ruclips.net/video/nv-33Y_gRdA/видео.html
I am waiting for 2nd generation
Test with sub 250 fixed wing please.
I have decided to wait until digital is better than analog in everyway. I literally go through a average of 5 to 3 vtxs in a race day. I got another one of those scam advertisements. It was along the lines of jewelry has not advanced in centuries. A 'brain' got fired for designing this incredible item. It then showed generic Jewelry, but it's probably plastic. I don't even use it! I haven't even turned off personalised ads.
Please can you demonstrate how the system only works properly with a 16:9 hdmi input, and not ANY hdmi input like they claim. This system works terrible with HDO1 or anything other than HDO2 imo. If you could discover why on earth they are sending a 16:9 video and cropping the sides off for 4:3 rather than the other way round, it would be interesting. For me as a racer, the system is totally useless without 4:3 and good FoV, this has the worst FoV ever, I suspect it is because if there was more detail for the system to display it would look worse than a lot of analogue feeds, so they cropped the image in significantly to give it a small chance of looking better than analogue. It is so obviously still AHD.
PS.... I will send you my ByteFrost system if you had a use for it. From what I see it is identical to this 'new' system, just different packaging and a 'mipi' cable
@@Bludz If send out 4:3 without chopping off the sides, the vertical won't be the original 720. Is it acceptable?
@@TheCarl1206 I tried to tell you how to improve the system over a year ago when I 'beta' tested (4:3 sent from camera, ribbon cable for the 2 board design not pins, M3 mounting not M2 and many other suggestions), and all have been ignored.
Make the original transmission 4:3 900px vertical (to match the goggles you have designed them around!), then crop to 16:9 720, the camera you use has 4:3 sensor after all, so maybe use all of it and get some usable FoV.
i'd be interested if you can get rid of the purple fringing of the camera by changing the lens. In my eyes, the image this camera is producing is, lets say, not very good.... Way to contrasty in sky and stuff up close has horror purple fringing bands....
Yes put it on a plane and check inav OSD
Let the foam fly!
They raised the price way to high for all most 400 bucks not worth the money. All in at the 250 it was at good buy but for the new price it is junk compared to dji I'm getting rid of all my hdo2 and analog and going to dji just because I wanted this fatsh shark byte but they got stupid and raised it up way high.see take fatshark
Fuck they raised the price..?
Yup the set up was 250 all in now over 400 with antennas
13:54 Cracked me up!
Goggle makers kan make a goggle with only screens and a HDMI input,
Everyone unboxes Bruce boxes it .. or tries haha
Fatshark using comic sans as their logo on the old goggles underlines their professionalism
Bruh another video😀
Cheap what over 400 bucks and that's no googles the dji system is a better deal
Too expensive
Shark byte is junk for the money way to expensive
More FPV and mini quad crap.....gonna have to let ya go Bruce