The other day my daughter and I were talking while my violin was lying on my desk in front of me ... and it started joining us in the conversation. I thought the f holes were echoing somehow so I played around with trying to get it to "talk" by directing my voice toward the holes, but that did not produce a consistent response. NOW I understand it was the pitches we were hitting while we spoke that made the violin reply. VERY COOL ! I can't wait to start experimenting with this! It will almost be like working with another musician ... and trying to coax them into singing along! So THIS is HOW some violinists sound like they are playing more than one violin at once! I'm SO excited knowing I can work towards the same! Thank you! :)
I really enjoyed this (and all) of your lessons. You present important information in a very accessible way, and your wonderful personality shines through on your videos. I really appreciate you!!
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hurray, finally an actual explanation! That's about 30 years people have been just assuming I knew what this exercise did as how to hear it. Now I know what I'm listening for.
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You are a great teacher and a kind human being . I do very much appreciate your effort and zeal in teaching us how to play and appreciate this fantastic Instrument . Thanks. K.paknoosh
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I just started like a couple of days ago, thanks for this very important lifelong habit tip. Sympathetic resonances on violin would logically be more pronounced since you've got 50 cents on either side of the note to play around with and on fretted instruments, the usual would be to hit the fret and not think about cents.
OMG thank you. I always thought I do something wrong when I hear the other string. Like touching the other string too. Seems like I did everything right but as a total beginnerI am never confident.
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mekore yes, I'm not a violinist but Ive heard they use Pythagorean tuning for melodies, equal temperament when they're matching up with the piano and just intonation for chords and intervals like thirds and sixths.
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In my physics lab lesson on resonance (many years ago) we were seeing the ringing because a tiny paper piece was hooked to the string, and we could see it dancing whenever a resonance occured .
I am an adult beginner. When I told my teacher about ringing he just couldn't understand that! Anyway I am getting some ringing and will try to get more.
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wow I had been thinking that I could hear G D A E notes in a special way and I was trying to develop this "ringiness perception" for other notes as well :/ Now I understand why I have so much difficulty in hearing the right F F# C C# G# D# B Bb. By the way does anyone hear more ringing in A 337Hz (4th finger in E string) than A 440 Hz?
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I love the sound. what violin are you playing? I am still on the lookout for the ideal violin. I have been looking at the cvn-700, but I don't like the finish. I like the sound and finish of yours though. I also like your video of picking the right chine rest in addition to this one.
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I stumbled upon this on my own (partially at least). I looked at the g string when playing a g on the d string, or something similar, and saw the vibrations. Instead of listening I just looked for the largest vibrations on the adjacent string. *not because I have bad aural skills
I like this philosophy, as it involves notes on open strings. The other day a guy asked me, "You are using open string notes? How are you doing that without sounding off-key." So he's making open strings responsible for his playing off-key? Hadn't he carefully tuned his open strings, so it must be his fingers on the fingerboard to blame? And how can he change position before having adjusted and balanced his intonation on the first position, including open strings? The first time I heard about "changing position" I was scared. Then I watched my ancient music idols on RUclips and compared them to classical violinists. The violin players in ancient music changed positions rarely, whereas classical players did it all the time. Frankly, ancient music violinist did it almost never-just stretching out now and then. Only in one case I saw somebody change position on the E string to go higher. To me there's only one position-possibly except for the E sting in a couple years. To me open strings have always been a must and a lazy A on the G string a no-go. I also consider sustained vibrato a pest: people gloss over their false notes with vibrato. If there was vibration on my notes I couldn't judge precisely whether my notes are correct. How does the fourth position sound without vibrato? Is it like Coke without bubbles? I read about musical directors suffering from open-E-phobia. Really? They hate the beauty of that silvery shining open E?
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well my e string lately tends to get out of tune when I play outdoors 😡 is funny how the things talked on the video isn't directly showed anywhere but is the easiest way to have truly perfect intonation on 5 out of 7 notes.. this is so easy that teachers teaching double stops to "get in tune" makes me mad xd Actually, understanding this you will have no problem shifting anywhere in literally no time because by playing everything on tune you just build the sound library on your mind that tends to be messy. Then the fingers follows and you can start forgetting about mainstream left hand technique
DIsclaimer: I'm an "advanced adult beginner" (Def: I know which end of the bow to hold and to hold the chin rest in the upright not upside down position. ;>). The ring is basically sympathetic vibrations from adjacent strings generated when the instrument is tuned properly (I use the free PanoTuner app).Early on I realized I wasn't achieving a decent ring when playing with a 3rd finger G on the D string, simply because the tip of my 3rd finger was "encroaching" on the vibrations of the adjacent G string, therefore it couldn't offer those additive cool sympathetic open string G 196 Hz vibrations. Better finger/hand curl and finger positioning coupled with trimmer nails may "fix" that. Get a professional to critique the strings, the string setups, the bridge, etc. If you are playing with a student type violin (esp a VSO- type) the contruction might be the causing lack of ringing. Wood type and quality, proper varnish/oil staining, sound bar and sound post positioning hastily placed by the machine-type "luthier", etc, a missing sock stuck down in the F-hole, etc ;>). Borrow or rent an advanced instrument that's tuned and you will surely have an A-HAAA moment. My first violin was ok but my new Gliga Gama gave me that A-HAA moment the first time I played it. My instructor's instrument and impeccable technique made me terribly jealous when I first heard hers ringing. Keep at it. Be sure to find the right local instructor. The Virtual lessons like Lora's are definitely helpful but should be supplements not primary sources for your music education IMVHO...Ray - running out of time, if you get my drift.......;>)
After your wonderful demo, then DOUBLE STOPS, SPECIFICALLY OCTAVES. Simple double stops develop and set hand framing and muscle memory. For example, first finger on a upper string played with the open string below is never exactly in the same place as a first finger on a lower string and played with the open upper string. Octave double stops starting in 3rd position is the correct way to begin playing in tune. Also, the use of a highly sensitive and highly calibrated tuner will help you; although it can produce, at times, frustration since the mere pressure of the bow and a minimal slight pressure difference in a finger will wildly register on a tuner. Why do I say simple double stops? Think! How can you set your hand AND play single notes of a scale in tune when the muscles of the hand AND your ears have not been trained. Finally, absolutely NO VIBRATO EVER and no bow pressure except the weight of the bow! Think of making a sound on a crystal glass half filled with water and your wet finger. Its all the same process - exact speed, exact slight pressure with no hesitations. So it is with a bowed string instrument. I am a 63 year old professional concert level violist, violinist, choirmaster, organist, teacher and composer. I have taught hundreds of children K-12, adults and have studied with some of the greatest teachers and performers around the world. Practice everything with a metronome in extremely slow speed as if you were a Tai-Chi Master or pantomimist. Extremely slow, even, soft practice males perfect. Tackle little amounts! Scales are for the accuracy of agility, speed and dexterity. More complex scales in double stops come after simple double stops. Then finally scales and etudes. ALL AT FIRST WITH NO VIBRATO! Make a beautiful clarinet sound with no vibrator at first, then add carefully practiced vibrato.
In Moscow, they would laugh at such a technique! I am able for a month and a half to teach the student twelve positions. And no shameful lines on the fretboard. The hearing must be developed! Normal hearing distinguishes two cents.
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This is one of the most helpful intonation videos I have come across, thank you!
The other day my daughter and I were talking while my violin was lying on my desk in front of me ... and it started joining us in the conversation. I thought the f holes were echoing somehow so I played around with trying to get it to "talk" by directing my voice toward the holes, but that did not produce a consistent response. NOW I understand it was the pitches we were hitting while we spoke that made the violin reply. VERY COOL ! I can't wait to start experimenting with this! It will almost be like working with another musician ... and trying to coax them into singing along! So THIS is HOW some violinists sound like they are playing more than one violin at once! I'm SO excited knowing I can work towards the same! Thank you! :)
Great story! Keep it up!
I really enjoyed this (and all) of your lessons. You present important information in a very accessible way, and your wonderful personality shines through on your videos. I really appreciate you!!
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THANK YOU!! I have been so frustrated while working on my intonation lately. This makes so much sense, I will try it. ❤️
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@@virtualsheetmusic , I used this during today’s practice! I wish I’d found this video two years ago. 🤦🏼♀️😝
Thanks so much dear Master Lora about your Intonization Tutorial🎻🎵🎶
I think this video desserves more likes, thanks for sharing the knowledge with us!
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hurray, finally an actual explanation! That's about 30 years people have been just assuming I knew what this exercise did as how to hear it. Now I know what I'm listening for.
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You are a great teacher and a kind human being . I do very much appreciate your effort and zeal in teaching us how to play and appreciate this fantastic
Instrument .
Thanks. K.paknoosh
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Wow, this is like a nugget of gold. Will practice this.
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you totally love the violin , loved how you speak about the notes : )
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One of the most helpful Violin tutorial videos I have ever seen. Thank you
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awesome! I'm not learning violin but it was great! for the first time I could hear something well! thanks a lot
Thank you for this video!
You are so welcome!
Outstanding explanation on shifting! I am having fun doing this. It’s hard, but I will practice hard! Thanks!
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Thank you so much for the great explanation. What a great lesson.
Glad it was helpful!
I just started like a couple of days ago, thanks for this very important lifelong habit tip. Sympathetic resonances on violin would logically be more pronounced since you've got 50 cents on either side of the note to play around with and on fretted instruments, the usual would be to hit the fret and not think about cents.
Excellent..thanks a bunch...very,very good stuff.
Excellent!!!
Ah now I see what you mean with "ringyness" thanks so much, when I get home I'll start practising right away :D
OMG thank you. I always thought I do something wrong when I hear the other string. Like touching the other string too. Seems like I did everything right but as a total beginnerI am never confident.
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'nanometres' love it!
Very helpful tip.
Great thanks a lot.
Most welcome!
Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge, i am grateful :)
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thanks again :)
Awesome stuff. Thanks!
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4:16 If that's a color of the same note she played at 3:45, it sounds maybe 30-40 cents flat to my ears?
in addition to hear the ringing, you can see the ringing as well~
can fretless instrument players adjust their intonation to different tuning temperaments? like when playing with other instruments
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mekore yes, I'm not a violinist but Ive heard they use Pythagorean tuning for melodies, equal temperament when they're matching up with the piano and just intonation for chords and intervals like thirds and sixths.
Well, I don't play violins...& not really trying to (, though it would be awesome!) But I could tell that you are a very good teacher , indeed!
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Many thanks. Very helpful.
I prefer to play on a muted fiddle around the house. I suspect perhaps I might be at a disadvantage muted. What do you say.
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Oh okay i get it now thank you so much!
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In my physics lab lesson on resonance (many years ago) we were seeing the ringing because a tiny paper piece was hooked to the string, and we could see it dancing whenever a resonance occured .
I am a high level suzuki student, but now I just want to go back to book two and play some tonalization!
I am an adult beginner. When I told my teacher about ringing he just couldn't understand that! Anyway I am getting some ringing and will try to get more.
A very helpful video.
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wow I had been thinking that I could hear G D A E notes in a special way and I was trying to develop this "ringiness perception" for other notes as well :/
Now I understand why I have so much difficulty in hearing the right F F# C C# G# D# B Bb.
By the way does anyone hear more ringing in A 337Hz (4th finger in E string) than A 440 Hz?
Thank you.
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This is awesome
I've learned playing 🎻🎵🎶at age of 71's since CovidWuhan events, mostly on RUclips tutorials 👌🎻🎵🎶
Great! This reinforces my thoughts that vibrato is OK for solo work, but in ensemble it detracts from the beauty of well tuned, consonant, chords.
Jack Taylor ??? I've seen orchestras do that all together at once ( vibratos) all the time! ??? Ummm?
thank u so much
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Can hear the A very easily, but I think either my tablet or the recording doesn’t come across as well.
how is this effect called?
What are you referring to exactly? I'll be glad to help, please, tell me more. Thanks!
The other strings vibrating on certain notes is called sympathetic vibration
i appreciate you making these helpful videos... are you holding online classes too?
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I love the sound. what violin are you playing? I am still on the lookout for the ideal violin. I have been looking at the cvn-700, but I don't like the finish. I like the sound and finish of yours though. I also like your video of picking the right chine rest in addition to this one.
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I stumbled upon this on my own (partially at least). I looked at the g string when playing a g on the d string, or something similar, and saw the vibrations. Instead of listening I just looked for the largest vibrations on the adjacent string.
*not because I have bad aural skills
Good idea David, you can of certainly do that. The more (good) vibrations, the better ;)
I like this philosophy, as it involves notes on open strings. The other day a guy asked me, "You are using open string notes? How are you doing that without sounding off-key." So he's making open strings responsible for his playing off-key? Hadn't he carefully tuned his open strings, so it must be his fingers on the fingerboard to blame? And how can he change position before having adjusted and balanced his intonation on the first position, including open strings?
The first time I heard about "changing position" I was scared. Then I watched my ancient music idols on RUclips and compared them to classical violinists. The violin players in ancient music changed positions rarely, whereas classical players did it all the time. Frankly, ancient music violinist did it almost never-just stretching out now and then. Only in one case I saw somebody change position on the E string to go higher. To me there's only one position-possibly except for the E sting in a couple years.
To me open strings have always been a must and a lazy A on the G string a no-go. I also consider sustained vibrato a pest: people gloss over their false notes with vibrato. If there was vibration on my notes I couldn't judge precisely whether my notes are correct. How does the fourth position sound without vibrato? Is it like Coke without bubbles?
I read about musical directors suffering from open-E-phobia. Really? They hate the beauty of that silvery shining open E?
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well my e string lately tends to get out of tune when I play outdoors 😡
is funny how the things talked on the video isn't directly showed anywhere but is the easiest way to have truly perfect intonation on 5 out of 7 notes.. this is so easy that teachers teaching double stops to "get in tune" makes me mad xd
Actually, understanding this you will have no problem shifting anywhere in literally no time because by playing everything on tune you just build the sound library on your mind that tends to be messy. Then the fingers follows and you can start forgetting about mainstream left hand technique
How come I cannot hear the ringing on my violin? But I can definitely hear it in your video... :(
DIsclaimer: I'm an "advanced adult beginner" (Def: I know which end of the bow to hold and to hold the chin rest in the upright not upside down position. ;>). The ring is basically sympathetic vibrations from adjacent strings generated when the instrument is tuned properly (I use the free PanoTuner app).Early on I realized I wasn't achieving a decent ring when playing with a 3rd finger G on the D string, simply because the tip of my 3rd finger was "encroaching" on the vibrations of the adjacent G string, therefore it couldn't offer those additive cool sympathetic open string G 196 Hz vibrations. Better finger/hand curl and finger positioning coupled with trimmer nails may "fix" that. Get a professional to critique the strings, the string setups, the bridge, etc. If you are playing with a student type violin (esp a VSO- type) the contruction might be the causing lack of ringing. Wood type and quality, proper varnish/oil staining, sound bar and sound post positioning hastily placed by the machine-type "luthier", etc, a missing sock stuck down in the F-hole, etc ;>). Borrow or rent an advanced instrument that's tuned and you will surely have an A-HAAA moment. My first violin was ok but my new Gliga Gama gave me that A-HAA moment the first time I played it. My instructor's instrument and impeccable technique made me terribly jealous when I first heard hers ringing. Keep at it. Be sure to find the right local instructor. The Virtual lessons like Lora's are definitely helpful but should be supplements not primary sources for your music education IMVHO...Ray - running out of time, if you get my drift.......;>)
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4:16 that's pretty far out-of-tune. Definitely way more than four cents
"Hideous" LMAO!! (but it is) BTW, playing the violin... wait "Learning" to play the violin is HIDEOUS! The Violin was mis-named. "Monsterin"
cool, my teacher never told me this
After your wonderful demo, then DOUBLE STOPS, SPECIFICALLY OCTAVES. Simple double stops develop and set hand framing and muscle memory. For example, first finger on a upper string played with the open string below is never exactly in the same place as a first finger on a lower string and played with the open upper string. Octave double stops starting in 3rd position is the correct way to begin playing in tune. Also, the use of a highly sensitive and highly calibrated tuner will help you; although it can produce, at times, frustration since the mere pressure of the bow and a minimal slight pressure difference in a finger will wildly register on a tuner. Why do I say simple double stops? Think! How can you set your hand AND play single notes of a scale in tune when the muscles of the hand AND your ears have not been trained. Finally, absolutely NO VIBRATO EVER and no bow pressure except the weight of the bow! Think of making a sound on a crystal glass half filled with water and your wet finger. Its all the same process - exact speed, exact slight pressure with no hesitations. So it is with a bowed string instrument. I am a 63 year old professional concert level violist, violinist, choirmaster, organist, teacher and composer. I have taught hundreds of children K-12, adults and have studied with some of the greatest teachers and performers around the world. Practice everything with a metronome in extremely slow speed as if you were a Tai-Chi Master or pantomimist. Extremely slow, even, soft practice males perfect. Tackle little amounts! Scales are for the accuracy of agility, speed and dexterity. More complex scales in double stops come after simple double stops. Then finally scales and etudes. ALL AT FIRST WITH NO VIBRATO! Make a beautiful clarinet sound with no vibrator at first, then add carefully practiced vibrato.
its not ringing because your finger geometry is deliberately distorted
sympathetic vibration of g string
Wait... a nanometer is a billionth of a meter, or a millionth of a millimeter.
In Moscow, they would laugh at such a technique! I am able for a month and a half to teach the student twelve positions. And no shameful lines on the fretboard. The hearing must be developed! Normal hearing distinguishes two cents.
Link to Russian technique would be appreciated, thank you...
Thanks for telling us your supposedly super effective method, and how to learn it.
Such is life in Moscow
Why you don't respond yourself but want asking people to ask the experts? What are you then?!
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Thank for your stupid automated bot reply! But who needs that?!
Latchezar Dimitrov I like how they uploaded a free helpful tutorial video, and instead of saying thanks you complained and then acted rude when they responded. Some people are impossible to please.
+Paul This is a profanity, not a teaching aid.
No, this is a teaching aid (and a useful one), not a profanity.
音を完全に外してる。。。
my gordita
Thank you this is awesome
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Thank you.
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