2024 Subaru Outback Wilderness vs. Toyota 4Runner Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 2 дек 2023
  • Here’s my comparison side by side review of the 2024 Subaru outback Wilderness and the Toyota 4Runner (specifically a TRD Sport 2022) but comparing 2024 specs as this trim level is priced similarly to the Subaru.
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  • @StephenYang
    @StephenYang 5 месяцев назад +18

    I never realized how similar sounding "4Runner" and "foreigner" were, and now I can't unhear it...

  • @kao9379
    @kao9379 4 месяца назад +8

    Our Subaru outback is a family member at this point. Never let me down and a ton of fun!

  • @CDub-np1cc
    @CDub-np1cc 7 месяцев назад +21

    Your description and commentary are pretty spot on. We own both; '20 Outback and '16 4Runner. We take the Outback on long road trips; it's far superior on the road in comfort, mileage, technology, etc. and hugs the mountain roads very well. However, we won't take the Outback off road unless we know it's a simple forest service road. We can put the 4Runner through just about anything within our comfort zone and it will take the beating without fail; it's close to bulletproof in our experience; it has never let us down. As you said, they are different vehicles for different applications.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  7 месяцев назад

      I’m glad you think so, especially where you own both and were able to provide more ownership insight! Thanks for watching. 🙂

  • @JA-zh5xi
    @JA-zh5xi 12 дней назад +4

    Been a Toyota family for over 20 years. Just bought a 24 Suburu wilderness. Toyota pricing is just not competitive anymore and all their new models have big time issues. The features you get with the wilderness blow away the old 4 runner with tech from 2005 and gas mileage from the 90s. And you get it all for way less money.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  12 дней назад +1

      I hear you there, that’s similar to why I ditched Toyota back around 2019 haha. I like your description of the ancient 4Runner btw, haha. 🤪

  • @andregonsalvez9244
    @andregonsalvez9244 3 месяца назад

    Great show ! Both of these are competent and unique vehicles and bulletproof reliability . I just purchased a 23 4Runner Limited which I am enjoying it .

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching! And enjoy that sweet new 4R! Those Limiteds sure are nice. 🙂

  • @H.pylori
    @H.pylori 6 месяцев назад +2

    Good comparison. I am torn between the two for 2024. Thanks.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад +1

      Best of luck in decision making, I feel the same lol. I know my OBW is a better vehicle for my current needs, but dang are 4Runners still desirable. In the next week I’ll post a video about a 1,600 mile road trip I just took in my Wilderness. Including over 800 miles in one day.

  • @frankpoperowitzmusic
    @frankpoperowitzmusic 6 месяцев назад +8

    I had a 21 TRDORP. Loved it! Fuel economy is its achilles. Yeah it will run forever but cost one a fortune in ownership cost. I drive a Crosstrek Wilderness now. By the way, you’ll never get 400+ miles on a tank in a 4Runner. More like 300 for $85.

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c 6 месяцев назад

      LOL, 300 miles on a tank in a 4Runner is being very hopeful LOL...thing got worse fuel economy than my 08 Tundra with the 5.7L V8....fuel economy in the 4Runner bloated toy is pathetic....I bet if they threw the 4.6L V8 in it it would at least have enough power to get out of its own way, and get better fuel economy. Best I could get out of the 4Runner that I had on loan from the dealer while my Tundra was in the shop was 16mpg on the highway...the Tundra consistently got 18-19mpg highway, occasionally I'd see 20-21MPG on out of state trips with the Tundra....the V6 in the Tacoma and 4Runner never was fuel efficient, and the new V6 wasn't any better....now they're pulling the turbo 4 cylinder nonsense too and getting worse fuel economy LOL.

    • @frankpoperowitzmusic
      @frankpoperowitzmusic 6 месяцев назад

      @@wildbill23c My point exactly!

    • @SLOK20C2
      @SLOK20C2 5 месяцев назад

      I had a 22 TRD Off Road and I’m heavily thinking about getting a crosstrek wilderness, how do you like it in comparison to the 4Runner? I’m incredibly curious, the trek wilderness seems awesome for the size and money.
      Thank you in advance for your input!!

    • @EstaDePiPi
      @EstaDePiPi 5 месяцев назад

      @@wildbill23cbeing that only thing you gotta worry about is gas, that already tells you, car is a tank you won’t have to worry about anything else, Subaru with their shitty engines and transmissions

  • @mr_grumpy_ucb
    @mr_grumpy_ucb 6 месяцев назад +7

    Traded a 2019 4Runner for a Subaru Crosstrek cuz it was way more comfortable than the 4runner on the road. I'm not a daily or weekly off-roader or glamper so downsizing to a more comfortable and efficient vehicle fit my lifestyle better. It's all about the lifestyle, and personal preference. Looks wise, Toyotas are king, but functionality and practicality it takes a hit or two. Aiming for the turbo 2024 outback wilderness in black, but I still give the Toyotas a flirt when I see em around. Solid Video as always. #subiegang

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад

      Well said, it’s all about what is best for each individuals needs! Thanks for watching again! #subiegang indeed lol

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c 6 месяцев назад

      To be honest most people driving 4Rnners, and Wranglers for that matter never actually use them for anything but a grocery getter and highway cruiser.

    • @robertstephens6775
      @robertstephens6775 6 месяцев назад

      Over the years I’ve had 6 Toyotas, an 85 22R that put 490k plus on, two different 4Runners with combined mileage of just over 220K, an 2002 Tundra that had about 43K when I traded it for a 2003 Tundra which I still own with about 240K, so I am a Toyota lover. I had a 1976 Subaru that had 118K on it in 1980 and put another 145K with no problems. I bought my wife a 2016 Outback new and she has just over a 100K with no problems and I recently bought a 2021 Crosstrek which I love. I live near Daytona Beach and can drive through the sand without worry. So when it comes to anything, don’t confuse perception for reality.

  • @tylers.2069
    @tylers.2069 7 месяцев назад +9

    This is one of those comparisons that are completely subjective, both vehicles have legendary status. One is way more efficient and much cheaper to own over a 3 year period. If you’re just looking to get to the hard to reach trails/campsites, get the Outback. You will save a lot of money on everything. But let’s say you get the OBW then put $10k into so it’s the same cost as the 4Runner, now you have a badass OBW that can go just as far, if not farther than the 4Runner. I’ve seen a lot of vids where guys are going full send mode with the OBW, and they are keeping up with everything. I love both vehicles but since I have a family and want more than 16 mpg, I’m going to go with the OBW.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  7 месяцев назад

      Well said! I’m sure you’ve seen the video of the OBW with the rear locker. I think my biggest disappointment with the OBW, which is more related to the current used car market finally leveling out, is that mine new 2 years ago was about 40k. With 30k miles it’s now worth probably 26-27k, whereas an equivalent 40k SR5 4Runner from 2 years ago with that mileage is probably still worth at least 35-36k. In my area with average gas prices the 4Runner would have likely used ~2k more in fuel.

    • @yesmaybe3791
      @yesmaybe3791 7 месяцев назад +1

      I test drive a TRD 4Runner 2 years ago before I bought my 22 OBW. Went with the Subaru because of the better safety rating, gas mileage, lower price and a big reason was the lower step in height. Something to consider with a family. The Toyota I had to go up into to sit vs the lower Subaru. Even though they both have just about same ground clearance.

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c 6 месяцев назад

      Curious what options are out there for the Subaru's to make them more offroadable. Does anyone make lockers or limited slips for them? Someone obviously makes lift kits as I've seen a few around that are slightly lifted.

    • @kellkalm6109
      @kellkalm6109 4 месяца назад

      @@AutomotiveAnonymous208yeah, Subaru doesn’t hold its value as tightly as Toyota does… but they’re still fantastic vehicles, and hold value better than the majority of other brands.

    • @josephmyers64
      @josephmyers64 Месяц назад +1

      I owned a 22 OBW. I recently totaled it but it saved my life. It had 60k miles no issues add insurance paid out $29,979 for it plus taxes, registration . I just bought a 24 OBS last week and it's great!. I considered the 4runner and I did a test drive but I'm not impressed.

  • @labcoattheater6161
    @labcoattheater6161 Месяц назад

    Great video and came at a perfect time for us. We are just torn on which one to get. We love the Outback but we need to tow a small camper 2500 lbs and want the option to tow a bit more later if needed. Yes, the Outback can tow up to 3500 lbs but I am not crazy about adding a hitch to a unibody. So we are likely going with the 4Runner (body on frame). We do sometimes end up in messy situations in northern Arizona and we think this will pull our small camper through those times better. You can see this camper on our RUclips page. Again, thank you this really helped us decide.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  Месяц назад

      I’m also so glad you found my video and I’m happy it could be helpful to you guys! Best of luck in whatever you decide. 4R are awesome and although it will be dragged down and get horrendous MPG while towing, you can rest assured knowing you’ll make up for its expense when it’s time to eventually sell it. 🙂

  • @lewis376
    @lewis376 3 месяца назад

    This was/is very welll done. Thank you for helping me make up my mind.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  3 месяца назад

      I’m so glad you thought so! It was fun to make, despite the bad weather lol. So which one are you going with?? 👀 😀

    • @lewis376
      @lewis376 3 месяца назад

      Outback
      This is an overall better choice for me based on the review. I only go off road 10 percent of the time. There's also the money and mileage factor.
      There's only one thing left that bothers me. The outback looks more like a modified cool station wagon. Whereas the Runner looks like a tough truck. I hope my hunting friends don't call me soccer mom, lol.@@AutomotiveAnonymous208

    • @lewis376
      @lewis376 3 месяца назад

      OUTBACK@@AutomotiveAnonymous208

    • @JoeBuck-uc3bl
      @JoeBuck-uc3bl 2 месяца назад

      For me the only part of my mind that I needed to make up was whether I wanted to dig deeper in to the bank account or not. The 4Runner is a triple whammy, #1 the price tag (I only considered Off-Road Premium), #2 a much worse interest rate (obviously that’s irrelevant though for those who can pay cash), and #3 the worse gas mileage. I decided on the financially easier Subaru. I’m loving the Subaru, but I’ll still always daydream about making the other decision.

  • @onetimer100
    @onetimer100 5 месяцев назад +1

    The foreigner serves a whole different purpose. I had a '89 and it was my favorite car of all time. Currently have a '15 OB and love it. The 4runner is just horribly inefficient for everyday driving. Great second vehicle. OB is more comfy overall

  • @ls60fd
    @ls60fd 5 месяцев назад

    I am conflicted as well. We have a 2019 3.6r Outback that we bought new. I specifically wanted the six-cylinder. Now thinking of either getting a Outback Wilderness (love the green or blue ones. But I also love the 4Runners and been jonesing for one lol. I should mention I have a lifted 1987 Chevy K5 Blazer on 35" tires but it's in need of much body and drivetrain work. Thought of selling it since I am now older fatter with health issues so it's hard climbing in and out of it. I'd love to keep our 2019 OB as it's almost paid for and get a 4Runner as a 2nd vehicle (wife doesn't drive) but not sure yet.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah, I hear you! The 4Runner is definitely probably more middle of the ground between the OB and K5. Which by the way that K5 sounds sweet! In high school I had a friend that would often drive his dad’s rhino lined 87 Blazer on at least 33’s if not maybe a 35 and we had a lot of fun with that. Test drive them both and see which one speaks to you! 😎

  • @seanj3695
    @seanj3695 6 месяцев назад +6

    I always tell people that the 4Runner is actually better owned as a second vehicle. I have a 4R and my mom has a Subaru Crosstrek. The Subaru's are going to be a lot more economical to own on a daily basis and are excellent in all weather conditions. They will handle what 95 percent of drivers are going to do every year. If you can't own he 4Runner as a second vehicle I would go with the Subaru.
    That being said, if you have a car that you can daily drive for commuting to work etc. that gets good gas mileage, and you can use the 4Runner for SUV or Truck Purposes, I would say It's better to own the 4R because of its super Solid build and far longer longevity than the Subaru. Not to mention, larger interior and tons more cargo space.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад

      Which year and trim is your 4R?
      Very well said! I have a 23 Miata as my fun/economy car. So maybe a 4R could be considered if I get bored of my Subaru. And then own two vehicles that are best owned as a second car lol. 😂

    • @seanj3695
      @seanj3695 6 месяцев назад +1

      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 Hey there! My 4runner is a 2024 Off Road Premium. I have a 2008 Civic Si 6sp manual as my daily/fun/beater. Lol, I've driven miatas. They're definitely fun up in the Shenandoah mountains here, but tooooo small, lol.
      Yeah if your miata is utilitarian enough to accomplish daily tasks I would 100 percent get the 4runner over the Subaru. I will say though, they're alot bigger than most people realize which can be a good or bad thing. The thing about the 4runners is, a lot of people get bad mpg because they lift them and put A/T tires on them. If you leave it stock and just throw on some mild AT's or some good all seasons, you'll get decent MPG for a 4700 pound truck.
      I still have the stock tires on mine and it's getting 19.2 in the city 21.6 highway. It's honestly not bad if you don't drive it everyday.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад +1

      Great insight! I appreciate you sharing. What kind of mpg does your ORP get going 80mph, if you’ve experienced those interstate speeds.

    • @steve8803
      @steve8803 5 месяцев назад +1

      @seanj3695 the 4R is a weird vehicle. If you want a pure off roader, get a wrangler or bronco. If you want something that can does a bit of everything, I think the Outback is great.

    • @seanj3695
      @seanj3695 5 месяцев назад

      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 Yeah absolutely! So it all depends on what kind of tires you're running. Alot of people run AT's and aggressive treads on their 4runners. That's gonna tank your MPG.
      I still have the stocks on mine. They're a highway focused, light, light offroading tire. At 80 mpg over a sustained amount of time I'm at around 20mpg. Between 19-21.
      City is around 14.6 mpg. Trust me, you will feel it at the pump if you daily drive the 4runner lol. Unless you're accustomed to getting that mpg from another vehicle you're coming from.

  • @LionRunner
    @LionRunner 6 месяцев назад

    @4:32 I was thinking to myself that you cannot say "these 2 Japanese SUVs" I would say Japanese SUV 4Runner (VIN - JT) vs American car Subaru Outback Wilderness VIN - 4S) / @17:00 "both Japanese build" only 4Runner is Japanese build 😁😁 @6:03 4Runner is also available with fulltime 4wheel drive for those who don't to mess with selecting 4WD. @7:42 Payload also differ from trim to trim, for example SR5 4WD is 1165, TRD trims would have 880lbs and Limited 4WD have 1165lbs as well including 3rd row models. @7:53 bone stock 4Runners will normally have 265/70R17 tires and the 2 more onroad focus trims have 245/60R20 tires. @13:25 you can get JBL sound, heated and ventilated seats on 4Runner. @13:37 you can get leather seats on 4Runner as well. :14:27 also gets dual automatic climate controls on upper trims.

  • @donnymac575
    @donnymac575 7 месяцев назад +4

    I think you can buy a cover for the mic that filters out all the wind noise.

  • @bingbongmcgee
    @bingbongmcgee 4 месяца назад +1

    Been thinking about my first brand new car, and you vids along with many others have kept me convinced the outback wilderness is right for me! I have an '05 obxt with 230,000 miles and still trucking along strong, so I'll probably make it last as long as I can and then maybe buy whatever the 2025 wilderness is (hopefully with fewer dependencies on computers and the ability to easily mod the approach/departure angle to be equal for peace of mind off-road)
    Though realistically I think the perfect car would be a Crosstrek Wilderness with the Outback Wilderness engine setup, 33 degree departure AND approach angle, and extra computers as an added luxury and not necessary for your car to function. Possibly modular in some ways for easy customizability from the factory. Been thinking about global politics recently which is why I am still kind of thinking 4runner and older Toyotas (reliability and ability to survive in... certain events.), but Subarus are just so much nicer in every other way in everyday life for such a lower price. I wish car manufacturers would stop treating cars like smartphones (edit: hell, even homes are being treated the same way now...)

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  4 месяца назад

      The OBW is an awesome vehicle, I’m sure you’ll like it when it’s time to upgrade! Thanks for sharing your opinions and insight!

  • @JoeBuck-uc3bl
    @JoeBuck-uc3bl Месяц назад +1

    Subaru is just way more capable in all sorts of situations. All wheel drive is superior to 4 wheel drive.

  • @user-qd7cy9kj2r
    @user-qd7cy9kj2r 3 месяца назад

    I thought your review was very well done and very informative. I owned a Subaru Outback for 10 years, and at 163,000 miles, after replacing both catalytic converters, I wanted to trade it in for a new Subaru. Imagine my surprise when the dealership told me it had no value and they would not give me anything in trade. I had driven to the dealership in my 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser, and when I mentioned that it had 247,000 miles and was still doing fine, the salesman said, "That's because it"s a Toyota." That's when I decided to buy a 2023 4Runner. So, I feel like the one place that you failed to adequately compare the Subaru to the Toyota is the area of effective life expectancy of the two vehicles. I agree that Subaru is unmatched in on road stability and safety. But getting an extra 100,000 miles or more from a vehicle certainly has it's advantages! Keep up the good work.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  3 месяца назад

      I’m glad you enjoyed it! And thanks for sharing your insight and ownership experience! I should have spoken to assumed resale and value lost vs. gas spent. I actually included some of those numbers in I think it was my 30k mile update on my own OBW. I’m glad you ended up with the 4Runner, those things are sweet!

  • @powertools2375
    @powertools2375 18 дней назад

    We got a forester. Love it so far

  • @paulmarshall7328
    @paulmarshall7328 Месяц назад +1

    I'm trading in my '19 Tacoma TRD Off Road 6 speed manual for a 24 Outback Wilderness tomorrow. Took the Tacoma Off road it did what I wanted but it's just not comfortable on long road trips. I am getting the subaru and it will do what I need it to. I won't be overlanding in it. Gonna drive to Alaska in it m

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  Месяц назад

      I get that! I use to have a 2013 and 2017 Tacoma. I definitely miss them and their resale value, but the Subaru is just a better vehicle (for me) to live with.

    • @PerpetuousDreamer
      @PerpetuousDreamer Месяц назад

      I just took a trip to Alaska on my 23 Outback Wilderness and it performed great, especially on the Cassiar Highway where you have very limited time to pass. I've owned this car for a year and put around 25,000 miles on it. Very happy with my purchase: decent on gas, perfect for car camping, awesome off-road and very fast for its size.

  • @heyjoejp
    @heyjoejp 6 месяцев назад +2

    As of today purchasing a brand new Subaru comes with a lifetime warranty on power train . Anything motor/transmission. $100 deductible for service. It makes Subaru very compelling. However, V6 4Runner is absolutely bullet proof! It’s flawless.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад +2

      That’s awesome, A Subaru with a lifetime warranty would provide a lot of peace of mind!

    • @heyjoejp
      @heyjoejp 6 месяцев назад

      @@AutomotiveAnonymous208 agreed. I walked into a dealership here in Massachusetts a little skeptical but test drove both forester and outback. Afterwards the dealership mentioned the new lifetime warranty I was sold. The dilemma now is which one? lol

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад +1

      That’s awesome! I googled that after reading your first comment and it appeared like random Subaru dealerships will do that. If we buy another one I’ll definitely have to look into that option to have complete peace of mind about the CVT. Best of luck in which awesome ride you choose! 🙂

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c 6 месяцев назад +2

      That would be a dealer offering, that is not a Subaru offering FYI.

  • @Spessforce
    @Spessforce 6 месяцев назад +3

    My next car purchase in a few years will probably come down to these two vehicles. I have a Crosstrek sport with some offroad upgrades right now and I find myself wanting something larger for family camping trips. The hardest thing to give up if I went with a 4Runner would be the Subaru eyesight system that mostly drives itself.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад

      That sounds like a fun Crosstrek! Definitely test drive them both, they feel drastically different. I drove through a bit of a snow storm last night and I’ll say there was nothing I would have rather been in than my OBW in that situation. But I’m still torn between the two. It will be interesting to see what the next gen 4Runner changes. 🤔🙂

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c 6 месяцев назад

      You'll really miss the Subaru Fuel Economy....the 4Runner is a horrible gas guzzler, uncomfortable, and very sluggish in power. Got stuck with a 4Runner loaner from the dealer a couple years ago, I was not impressed in the least....and I owned a 94 4Runner for a few years and it wasn't any better...so in 20+ years Toyota still can't build a 4Runner worth owning. The 4Runner got worse fuel economy on the highway than my 08 Tundra with the 5.7L V8 too which was extremely surprising given the Tundra has been known for being a gas hog...the 4Runner would only manage 16mpg highway...I got 18-19mpg all the time with my Tundra.

  • @XxAlex530xX
    @XxAlex530xX 7 месяцев назад +4

    The 4Runner looks way better and that color too. I personally like 4Runners more but the Subaru is a good vehicle too lots of college students have those.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  7 месяцев назад +2

      It was a very cloudy day and the 4Runner looked much better in person than I caught on camera! After 30k miles I can say my OBW has been the best overall daily driver I’ve owned.

  • @livinginwilderness7913
    @livinginwilderness7913 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks for the comparison! I will buy what I can afford, mind you that some cars are overhyped, and 4Runner is one example. 90% of 4Runner buyers at most climb a curb.

  • @minnesotajack1
    @minnesotajack1 28 дней назад

    What is your opinion in this scenario:
    - zero off-roading
    - lots of snow driving
    - don’t drive enough to worry about gas mileage too much
    - trips are occasionally long (comfort)
    - need a fair amount of cargo room for stuff
    - both would have winter tires
    - I want to keep this vehicle 12-15 years
    - 4Runner looks cooler, IMO
    what should I do?

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  28 дней назад

      For most of those points I will say the Outback hands down is the more comfortable ride, much better acceleration, way safer in accidents, and handles snow much better. My only concern is they both ‘should’ last 12-15 years, but if the Subarus CVT goes out outside of warranty it’s ridiculously expensive to replace (like 10k). Otherwise the 4R has way better resale, but you might eat half the difference in bad fuel consumption. I’m also torn because I like the 4R and miss my old FJ Cruiser (basically a 2 door version of this platform) but in every day driving the Outback Wilderness is a much better car.

    • @minnesotajack1
      @minnesotajack1 28 дней назад

      @@AutomotiveAnonymous208
      Thanks.
      Snow handling is probably most important…then crash safety, then fuel economy, then cargo, then comfort

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  28 дней назад

      Subarus on good tires are literally like a video game cheat code in real life winter driving. To be fair my FJ had MT tired, which was horrible in snow. Even to the point I’d often have to put it into 4wd to get out of the street ice rut and pull into the driveway. Also one of the 4R that I’ve driven on my channel I think had Ko2s and in 2wd it felt useless in the snow (compared to my Subaru) and who wants to leave it in 4wd and constantly worry about shifting the transfer case. Although I suppose the Limited trim 4R is full time 4wd/AWD and that one might be decently better in snow, but idk. 🤷‍♂️

  • @RichYoung
    @RichYoung 4 месяца назад

    I currently have a 2020 4Runner and 2023 Outback Wilderness in my stable. The Subaru is far more comfortable, fun to drive, and (so far) seems more solidly built. I'll drive to Subaru for everyday driving, foul weather on pavement, mild off-roading, and for distance. I'll drive the Toyota when hauling, more severe off-roading, or taking people to the airport (carries far more luggage). Personally, I love the large display and tech in the Outback and wish it in the 4Runner. The adaptive cruise and lane departure works MUCH better in the Subaru.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  4 месяца назад

      I really appreciate you sharing your ownership experience of them both! I am a bit surprised you feel the Subaru is more solidly built than the Toyota. I don’t have any build quality concerns with my own OBW, but still surprised. I actually have another 4Runner video but haven’t made it public yet, if I recall its payload rating as an OR trim level is actually lower than my OBW, which I thought was really interesting. Without watching this comparison video I don’t recall what this 4R Sport payload was. 😅

  • @ChunkyMonkaayyy
    @ChunkyMonkaayyy 6 месяцев назад

    The 4Runner looks cool. The FJ Cruiser was pretty sweet too. I like those boxy looking SUVs. New Bronco would be a no brainer for me but Toyota has the quality and holds value better.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад +1

      The new Bronco definitely looks awesome, but after driving a few I’m really unimpressed with the day to day use ability of that compared to something like the 4Runner. The Bronco had child sized back seats and a medium sedans amount of storage behind them.

    • @ChunkyMonkaayyy
      @ChunkyMonkaayyy 6 месяцев назад

      @@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Oh, wow. Too bad about the Bronco. Child size back seats is why I didn’t get a Tacoma.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, it’s unfortunate. Those small body big suspension/wheel looking vehicles usually seem to have sacrifices such as those mentioned. But they look so good! 😍

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c 6 месяцев назад

      There's a guy down the road from where I live that has 3 FJ Cruisers, none of them are stock LOL.
      Ford dropped the base model Bronco, so they lost my interest. I had an 88 Ford Bronco 2, so a new base model 2 Door Bronco would have been great and would go anywhere I'd ever care to go considering where I was able to go with my 88 Bronco 2, the new one should at least be able to do that, which was nothing more than forest service roads and trails.

  • @johneason6540
    @johneason6540 4 месяца назад +1

    Plus nobody sells the Toyota at msrp usually more

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  4 месяца назад

      Some dealers do offer a few K under MSRP! My first dealership walk around video shows some up to 5,500 off of a 4Runner.

  • @Doc1855
    @Doc1855 7 месяцев назад +7

    The 4Runner is a 1/2 million mile vehicle

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c 6 месяцев назад +1

      Most people never keep them that long, and never properly maintain them LOL. If you buy one new and keep it forever maybe, but if buying a used one I wouldn't count on it being properly maintained....people can somehow afford the ridiculous payments on a brand new vehicle yet can't afford the routine maintenance LOL.
      Lots of high mile Toyotas out there for sure....my 94 4Runner had 319k on it and from what I could find I was the 3rd owner.

  • @ls60fd
    @ls60fd 5 месяцев назад

    Technically the Outback is built in Indiana U.S.A and the 4Runner is built in Japan

  • @sigstuko5270
    @sigstuko5270 3 месяца назад

    I think you can compare outback with highlander 4 runner is completely different vehicle

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  3 месяца назад

      Yeah, maybe for the non Wilderness Outback those might be comparable! 🙂

  • @1Springloaded
    @1Springloaded 6 месяцев назад +2

    It almost felt like subie was being bullied.

  • @ralph832
    @ralph832 3 месяца назад

    The Subaru CVT is the weak link. I went with the 2023 4Runner TRD Off-Road in Lunar Rock.

  • @DiscosVideos
    @DiscosVideos 5 месяцев назад

    You should do a side by side comparison of the Subaru Outback Wilderness vs Honda Pilot TrailSport.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  5 месяцев назад

      That would be fun! I rarely see Passports, but I’ll keep it in mind! 🙂

    • @DiscosVideos
      @DiscosVideos 5 месяцев назад

      @@AutomotiveAnonymous208 not the Passport but the new Pilot. It looks pretty rad. I'd love to see their TrailSport sitting next to an Outback Wilderness. I have a standard Outback and am thinking of messing with it to make it almost like a Wilderness edition but am thinking I might sell it and go for a Honda Pilot for the extra row of seats but it looks like it doesn't have much ground clearance even with it's factory "lift"

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  5 месяцев назад

      Oh gosh, sorry I miss read that! I see new Pilots even less often in my area. The most local Honda dealer to me is small and not one that I care to promote (based off business practices I’ve seen). So I need to find a Honda connection and that means traveling, which I’d love to do more of. But right now I don’t know that I’ll find a Pilot Trailsport any time soon. 😢

  • @powertools2375
    @powertools2375 18 дней назад

    Now let’s compare a refrigerator to a stove.

  • @ashresearcher
    @ashresearcher 5 месяцев назад

    I can sense your bias in favor of Subaru in your review lol 🙃

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  5 месяцев назад

      I honestly tried to not have one, lol. But I do own an OBW, and it does have a lot of good things going for it. But also 4Runners are so sweet. I’m conflicted. 😐 😂

    • @ashresearcher
      @ashresearcher 5 месяцев назад

      @@AutomotiveAnonymous208 that’s fair haha

  • @WendzDarKnight08
    @WendzDarKnight08 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can’t beat the Toyota reliability.
    Subaru’s when stuck they go limp. Completely shut down and it’s no where near as reliable as a Toyota 4Runner.

  • @brandcannon
    @brandcannon 5 месяцев назад

    You’ll be looking at spending more on gas with a 4Runner but honestly, both are amazing vehicles.

    • @WendzDarKnight08
      @WendzDarKnight08 5 месяцев назад

      You’ll be spending more when the Subaru engine goes kaput. An trust me it happens sooner than a 4Runners next oil change haha

    • @brandcannon
      @brandcannon 5 месяцев назад

      @@WendzDarKnight08 I don’t think so lol the Subarus are currently in a good place engine wise. But I’d still drive the hell out of a four runner!! Great rides both of em

  • @-_-OB1
    @-_-OB1 2 месяца назад

    Not even similarly priced, equipped or types of drivetrain...... pointless comparison

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  2 месяца назад

      Your point is valid. Yet thousands of people have still questioned which of these two models is the right choice for them. 🤷‍♂️🤪

  • @mghg5519
    @mghg5519 6 месяцев назад

    Subarus are overrated w their constantly failing wheel bearings, cvt transmissions that overheat while doing anything more than miles off-roading. And just wait because it will happen (those Subaru motors leak-they always do). Subaru is not the builder of really truly offload capable vehicles even though they would have you believe otherwise. I’ve owned 1 Legacy and 1 Outback and 2 4Runners.

    • @kao9379
      @kao9379 4 месяца назад

      I’ve had 4 Subie’s over the years and never been stranded by one of them! Got my kids safely thru winter snow storms and had a lot of fun in the snow as well. I think both of these vehicles have many fans which is awesome!

  • @eee2115
    @eee2115 7 месяцев назад +33

    I'd rather drive a 400k mile 4Runner, than a brand new Subaru with their junk transmission and engines.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  7 месяцев назад +6

      Both have their trade offs, but it’s quite impressive how many 4Rs make it to that mileage on the oem powertrain!

    • @lisaz9008
      @lisaz9008 6 месяцев назад +2

      Amen. My 2016 4Runner with 300K miles will outlast that 2024 Wilderness guarantied. And I came off of a brand new Crosstrex. I got tired of replacing the axes on it, just from pot holes. There's no comparison. Not one single mechanical issue yet on the 4Runner. My mechanic told me not to get rid of it, I said NO WAY would I.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад +2

      That’s a lot of miles! Definitely sounds like a keeper! 😎

    • @troytdesigns1
      @troytdesigns1 6 месяцев назад +22

      Love my Subaru. 1st one lasted 1.5 yrs before she saved my and my family’s life. Also had 56,000 miles in a year and a half with no issues “lifted, wheels, tires, roof rack, etc”. Now I love my 22 wilderness that's also at 1.5 years old with 50k miles and no issues also fully outfitted. Outback for me is definitely a more comfortable ride.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208  6 месяцев назад

      I’m glad you hear it did its most important job to protect you and that your experience has been so good! That’s encouraging to hear. 🙂