Here's why Subaru is BETTER than Toyota
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Toyota is one of the most common brands that people compare to Subaru, especially when looking at the Toyota RAV4 vs the Subaru Forester. In today's video I'm going to share 7 reasons why I believe Subaru is better than Toyota.
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When I was car shopping last fall visiting many brands, I was directed to a Subaru dealer in my city. I said to the sales person "I am just looking right now, don't know what brand of car I will buy or when I will buy it". He still took the time to show me a Crosstrek, explained the engine, the features etc. After two months of doing research and visiting many places, I returned and asked for a test drive. A week later I ordered a Crosstrek, have not regretted it, Especially comfortable on a 4000 kilometre trip (2400 miles).
I’ve had similar experiences with Subaru dealers
When I bought my 2023 Forester, the salesman said the visibility is so good "it's like driving in a fishbowl" and damned if that's not true!
lol not a bad analogy
One of the reasons I love them. Visibility is second to none.
Yes, that's one of reasons I bought Forester instead of RAV4. Visibility is amazing.
Couldn’t agree more. Also, on the Forester you see exactly where the hood ends. Quite useful when making a u-turn on a narrow Austrian forest service road.
Two years ago I retired after 42yrs of being a Toyota Master Technician. I still have a 2013 Camry and my 1992 Camry wagon (still runs great). Three months ago I bought a new 2024 Outback and couldn’t be happier. Toyota’s stands behind their products very well but has too many issues so I switched brands and have no regrets.
I went from having 3 Toyota 4runners, 95,98,05..but then they started to get to big and I had frame rust issues so I started looking at outback and switchedb have had a 17,18 and now have a 20. It's a great car and has gotten better with each generation. But at this point I am a bit nervous of what the next generation outback is going to look like and if they are going to ruin it like happened with the 4runner. From everything I'm reading, even on plant Subaru site looks like it's gona go big and square and ruin the wagon crossover look. So I'm hoping this isn't my last outback,
Ok, so you're a Master Tech, you've had several Toyota's that you're happy with. You purchase a 2024 Subie and at 12 weeks or ownership you have no regrets....Wait until you at least break it in. Better yet let's put a 100K on it, keep your receipts and come back and tell us how great a vehicle it is.....I've owned 7 new Toyotas and 3 new Subarus, I know the answer.
I cannot believe someone supposedly a master Toyota tech. Would have a new vehicle for less than a year and swear it's the best thing ever. You haven't owned it long enough to even have a opinion.
Same. Had a 2008 Rav4 Base Model. Replaced the master brake cylinder 3 times, braking was always off. Burn oil like no tomorrow and Toyota never had a recall only a bulletin. Which meant only if the customer stated or brought it up would Toyota look at it. Had several recalls. For only having 117k miles. Traded it in for a 2023 Forester Premium. The model above base. Damn, it is night and day in tech, smooth transmission cvt, plenty of pep and really more comfortable and roomy. The Rav4 had the best design with the tire outside and had the secret compartment underneath the back. The Subaru has slightly less room in the trunk area but can't beat Subaru. So far I am happy.
Nice job Alex. Always find your videos informative.
I had a Toyota. Now I have a Subaru Forester 2025 Touring. Visibility over the hood was vital to my 5'2" wife. Once she sat in the Subaru and looked over the hood all the debates were over.
I also feel like Toyota is a city car. We live in the upper midwest and travel to family all year. Subaru feels like a better car on the Interstate. Some of our relatives live in rural areas. Subaru is much better on rural roads and long, hilly gravel driveways. We have not had snow or bad weather yet, but I think the AWD is going to help as well.
Same here. We chose a Forester over a Toyota Venza for my wife for the same visibility concerns. Subarus have more ride height, bigger tires, and of course the superior AWD. Just more capable vehicles overall. We've had 5 Subarus in a row for all of those reasons.
@@enoynaert you’re going to love the AWD system! It works excellent. And combined with X-mode it’s even better
Awesome testimonial! 👍
In 2022, during Covid, Toyota wanted $5000 over MSRP. Subaru sold my son a Forester for $500 under MSRP. So last month, shopping for myself, I went straight to Subaru and got a great deal. Loyalty works both ways.
No, The Toyota dealership you walked into wanted 5K over MSRP and the Subaru Dealership you walked into wanted 500 under MSRP. The manufacture didn't sell you a car, the dealer did. Don't mix up the two.
Ya I was going to say lmao what you paid and mechanical reliability are 2 different things
@@lorimcquinn3966 Yes. Some manufacturers, GM I think, famously told the dealers not to surcharge or they would lose their dealership. Other manufacturers, Toyota for instance, looked the other way. I must have made 30 phone calls to dealers within a 100 radius of my house. Every Toyota dealership was price-gouging.
@@connorpoultney4400are you saying Subarus are not reliable? That’s the first I’ve heard that.
@@lorimcquinn3966man, you just know it all don’t you?
My 24 crosstrek loves adventure! She's been beach camping, backpacking in the Sierras and skiing in Lake Tahoe!
100% spot on about Toyota vs. Subaru dealers, this is what I've experienced.
I love my Subaru.
I had a great experience buying my Crosstrek. I cross shopped multiple Subaru dealers and they were all very upfront about the out the door price with no pressure
I am a first time Subaru owner and absolutely love my 2025 Forrester. My comment is specifically geared toward salesmen. Had I not watched your RUclips video the day I purchased my vehicle things might have gone terribly wrong the first time I went to a car wash. My salesman never told me about turning off the pre collision tab and AVH prior to going through a car wash. I would recommend all salesmen tell new Subaru owners about this. Thank you for all of your very informative videos.
Glad you had a good experience! You shouldn't have to turn the pre collision braking off now in the newer subarus, but AVH is always a good one to turn off when going through the car wash!
@@alexpmoHi Alex, thanks for the videos - helped me select a 24 Forester. Do you think you could do a video about being a Subaru car sales professional- sort of a virtual job shadow? I have seen some openings and it would really help me decide if it is something I should pursue.
Boy, that happened to me at a car wash, too. Now I know to turn off AVH between sitting in line at the car wash and going through the car wash.
Great points Alex. Today, my elderly neighbor said he was looking for a new vehicle. Narrowed it down to a Forester or a Crosstrek. Said he was looking at the RAV4 and Toyota was stereotypical high pressure sales.
I've had two Saturn's in the past and I loved them. I retired in June of 2021. From June to October, I did a lot of research on Subaru. I asked our mechanic about what car I should replace my Saturn Vue with, and without missing a beat, he said, "Subaru, I never see them in my shop!" So, my wife and I ordered our first Subaru on 10/30/2021... a Forester Premium. Loved it. We got it on Jan. 22, 2022. On January 6th of 2024, we traded up to a Forester Wilderness. Both these cars are awesome. We traded up cause we wanted a specific color(Geyser Blue), which only comes on the Wilderness models. It also has a higher towing capacity, a full-size spare tire, and a front camera as well. I love the Subaru brand, especially the commercials. Alex, thank you for all the great videos on these vehicles. I watch all of them.
Toyota and Subaru are so much alike that they actually share parts and technology.
Our last two vehicles were a Toyota Camry and now a Subaru Outback. I am much more pleased with the Outback and with the quality of support and service that we get from our local Subaru Dealership. They go out of their way to be friendly and helpful. I'm now a committed Subaru owner.
Not only do I feel that the visibility for the driver is superior, the back seat passenger visibility is much better than the Rav4. The Rav4 seems to have front passenger headrests that block out what can be seen looking forward.
I have had a Subaru since 2006 . I bought a new one in 2016. I love my Subaru ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Similar here. We still have our 2002 Impreza which is now kids college car, my wife drives our 2009 Tribeca which is also our road trip car. And we just leased a Solterra EV so I can get to/from work and local errands “on the cheap” (compared to buying any ICE as our third vehicle). Subaru all the way since 1998 (our first which was an Outback).
Love your content! On my 2nd Outback XT… because I love them.
Here’s a note: Toyota owns about 20% of Subaru Corporation, which is the parent company of Subaru. Subaru holds a 0.3% stake in Toyota. In addition, Camrys have been built in Subaru plants since 2007, and the new Solterra in a Toyota factory.
Also, I recently investigated a crash involving a 2024 Camry where there was a reinforced rear passenger door similar to those of Subies.
I LOVE MY LOCAL SUBARU DEALERS!
We had a 2012 Outback until last year when we got a new 2024 Outback. I can say that we liked the old one better. It got better gas mileage. We don't enjoy all the screen electronics ... we have to take our eyes off the road to find buttons. We probably won't keep this one as long as we did the old one.
That A-pillar visibility has been important in high pedestrian areas, have been thankful for it.
Bought our first OutBack LTD a 97, the 2nd OutBack LTD a 2002, the 3rd OutBack LTD a 2007, the 4th OutBack LTD a 2012, The 5th OutbBack Premier (CDN model) a 2017, and presently my wife has a 2019 Forester LTD and I have a 2022 OutBack LTD. We agree with your assessment that Subaru dealers are much easier to bargain with, and they take care of their customers without the "games" being played. As well, other than 2 minor recalls, and 3 minor warranty issues in total, none of these vehicles has required anything more than regular servicing. That said, our cars don't get to have more than 120 000 km ( 70 000 mi) or 5 years before we trade up, and they were all 1 year old when purchased. I'm already looking forward to my next OutBack in 2027.( Prior to my wife's Forester, she had 2 Toyota Cressida's and then 3 Lexus ES300/ES350's.) Like you said ... Subaru and Toyota are darn good vehicles.
A little over a year ago I sold my old Toyota Corolla and got a shiny and beautiful Subaru Forester and I love it! It is a nice and spacious vehicle, more fuel eficient than I initially thought and it drives smooth and stable. The whole experience at Subaru was and it has been fenomenal, I keep going to the dealer for regular maintenance and I am very pleased with the service. Love my Subaru Forester!
Hybrid BRZ 4WD pickup WILDERNESS
I've owned both Toyota and Subaru. Subaru's experience is second to none compared to that of others, including Toyota. My Toyota Camry was totaled in 2020, and after researching cars on Consumer Reports, I landed between Subaru, Toyota, and Honda. I test-drove vehicles from all three dealers and was floored by Subaru's customer service and sales experience. No mark-ups above MSRP, honest conversations, and I walked away feeling great with the experience. I paid more for my 2020 Forester Touring than if I went with the others, but the experience was incredible. I just bought my second Subaru, a 2024 Outback, and I love it! I live and die by Consumer Reports recommendations. And my two cars have been incredible to drive--why did I wait so long?
Toyota rav 4; 2023, mine is averaging over 45 MPG and being hybrid it has excellent acceleration and comfortable as well, i was thinking about the subaru for the off road capabilities, but for driving on the paved roads the toyota with its better MPG and resale is hands down the winner. I'm 75 and have owned nearly 100 different vehicles and the toyota suv and tacoma are the best 2 vehicles i have ever owned.
A recent Consumer Reports video featured two reviewers who nitpicked the '25 Forester. Then, one of them mentioned how they took it out in the country with their bike and the other mentioned how they went camping with it. The tone completely changed. Subaru = Adventure = Fun, more so than other SUVs.
Alex, you should have someone help you shoot these videos so you don't have to shoot this as a "selfie". Your videos are still pretty good. In my limited experience shopping for a Rav 4 and Forester in 2022 and 2023, the Subaru dealership experience has been far more pleasant. Your observations about the two brands' dealers seem to be accurate (again in my limited experience). I live most of the year in southern Vietnam and bought a 2023 Forester here. It was made in Thailand. So far I am very much pleased with this car. We also plan to purchase a Forester in the US within the next year.
When I bought my first Subaru, a 2016 2.5i Legacy Premium, I was looking for a mid size sedan with AWD. There were few other options and they were significantly higher trim level and price and not available with Toyota. While optional at the time, I was able to get Eyesight and Blind Spot Monitoring / Cross Traffic alert which I wanted with the thought I'd have new drivers in a few years. I was able to buy it under invoice with 36 month 0% interest rate financing. My daughter now has it at college. 11 Months ago I bought a '23 Ascent Limited with Tech Package which I was able to get equipped like I wanted for a great deal near the invoice price. The problem with the Toyota Highlander was there was very limited supply, and they had all these distributor options I didn't want, things like Running Boards and integrated dash cameras, which added thousands to the price. In both cases at 2 different Subaru dealers in 2 different states I was able to get great deals and find Subaru offers good value for the money.
This is my 2nd Subaru, a 2021 Outback Limited. I love my car. I live in NYC, the roads are terrible here, the drivers are worse. I feel safe in my Outback and roll over raggedy roads with ease!!
I drove a 2021 Subaru Outback and loved it. It was reliable and comfortable to drive. Its ability to 'goat' up a muddy road was impressive. Yet I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma because I needed a truck. If Subaru built a competitive truck to Toyota ... they might open up a new market.
My 2023 Subaru Ascent is my first "foreign" car ever. I absolutely LOVE it. Great experience with the dealer. Your videos are super helpful!
We own both Toyota and Subaru😁
I initially planned to buy a used Rav4 4mo. ago for my 18yrs old son, but ended up bought a used 2020 Forester touring. Toyota is too expensive, even the used ones. Well, what I discovered after drive this Forester for a few days and compare it to my wife 2017 Highlander Platinum in terms of safety.... My wife and I agreed that Subaru Eyesight system is better than Toyota safety senses. It picks up more accurate and more sensitive than Toyota. I don't know how to explain but you have to drive one to see the difference.
My Honda just involved in totalled lost recently and I decided to buy the 2024 Outback touring after doing some research. I still love Toyota and Honda but what I'm thinking is, buying Subaru is smarter.
The biggest issue I had was trying to purchase my Subaru locally at a Toyota/ Subaru dealership. They were not willing to negotiate with me, so I traveled from GA to VA to get my 2023 Outback and still love it. Helps the exclusively Subaru dealership in VA knocked almost $7,000 off the car too!
Also, Toyota wanted almost $10,000 more for a RAV4 with the features I wanted vs the outback with better features for a way better price!
Very curious to see your future video on why Subaru is going “full force” to EVs when they aren’t selling in almost every other manufacturer. Knowing we don’t have the infrastructure for it right now… I think they could focus on gas and hybrids but not full EV. Again that’s my opinion. The Prius and RAV4 / Highlander hybrids have soared in sales. They are so efficient and reliable. I work for Toyota and just bought a 25 Forester. I love my Subaru. It feels solid, safe, and less tinny than the RAV4. I will say….I’m not looking forward to the maintenance as it requires more since it has the two differentials but it’s worth it for the area I live in. I am not opposed to hybrid but it isn’t my first choice however I do back them more than EVs because they fit more people’s lifestyles like travelers and daily commuters.
We have a 2020 Forester. She has got us through a lot of things like deer crossing on the Trans Canada (aka The 1) highway, and treacherous weather on BC's Coquihallla highway. Never a problem with slush in the Pacific Northwest. Also the perfect car for a family with two hockey and lacrosse players.
We love our Subaru ❤❤❤
If Subaru had a hybrid system as good as Toyota I’d be Suabru for life ( I own a 23 wilderness ) though, I love the hybrid rav 4
Subaru is working on a hybrid next for the Forester! My guess is that they will be creating this off the back of Toyota since they have done so well with the RAV4.
Toyota owns 20% of Subaru, and among many other things, they're rumored to be working hybrids together. Hopefully that's true, and that something great will come of it.
@@ropersix that would be amazing! I love my Suabru but I just would love to have a hybrid platform to get 35 +
The AWD is amazing, purely amazing in inclement weather and it’s why I got Suabru.
You are describing unimportant stuff. Subaru uses CVT transmissions which are short lived. Toyota uses hardy automatic transmissions. Subaru uses "boxer" engine. Instead of cylinders being vertical or V shapes, they are horizontal. This requires 2 mile long timing chains with plastic guides and tensioners. Ticking time bomb... Cooling will always be problematic, as on "boxer" engines it is hard to run the coolant lines properly...there simply isn't room. VW knew this. That is why they used air cooled boxer engine, no coolant at all. TCV, Thermal Control Valve, replacement for traditional $ 30 thermostat. TCV will cause catastrophic engine failure, and costs $ 2,000 to replace. Crappy "infotainment" system, year after year. Weak brakes, weak axels, weak suspension, self cracking wind shields...
RAV4 beats Subaru every time...
The CVT transmission alone is a deal breaker.
I'm currently in the market for a new vehicle and have been weighing Jeep, Honda, and Subaru.
I'm sold.
Just Empty Every Pocket, JEEP!
@@alinatamashevich3354 Yeah, I know, much of the problem. I don't think I could afford to maintain the 4xe. I'd rather stick with a conventional low-performer.
I absolutely love my 2016 outback limited. It’s got 63k miles and I’m hoping it lasts me a lifetime lol the handling and ride make me so comfortable that I always want to drive.
Could not agree with you more. This year both my wife and I, looked very strongly at Toyota, comparing models to Subaru. We both went with Subaru, our #6 & #7 Subaru. My third Outback and my wife went with the 24 Solterra. Love them both.
Our Subaru dealer was great. Looking forward to the hybrid Outback.
It's simple, everyone loves a Subie. Hopefully, I will get a new 2025 Crosstrek to go with my Toyota. The best of both worlds, Toyota and Suburu. Awesome video, as always, Alex.
To be honest i have to agree with you 100% i also think subaru is like the best car out there to buy!✨
I had a 2003 VW diesel Jetta Wagon. I drove it for 17 years until the body rot got beyond control. There was only 150k on the engine. I loved the fuel mileage (normally in the mid-40s in-town) and the practicality of the wagon body. Then diesel prices went through the roof and the car, with its low ground clearance and manual transmission, was beating up my aging body, especially on long drives. I started considering a new car. I began doing research, and narrowed it down to a few makes and models. Being very impressed with my daughter's 2017 Outback (They are a Subie family - daughter's Outback, son-in-laws Legacy, and granddaughters Crosstrek) I settled on a new 2020 Outback. I've been very pleased so far. There are a few quirks, things I've had to adapt for, but no major problems. It's very comfortable, and does very well in Michigan winters. Even after the dealership changed hands, the service department has been solid, and seems very conscientious when it comes to my car's maintenance. They advise, but don't push, services that could extend the life and functionality of the car. I appreciate that. I think Subaru, as a brand, deserves the loyalty of their customers.
It’s well known that Subarus have the best visibility especially the Forester and the Outback. CR consistently rates them as the best in that department.. Our family has owned 7 Subarus since 1996. Our 1996 Outback and 2001 Forester had head gadget issues. I wish my current 2022 Outback Onyx 2.5 had Toyotas hybrid system and a surround view camera, otherwise it’s perfect. I get over 30 mpg on road trips even with my Inno roof box on the car. Here in the Pacnw at sea level the 2.5 if fine. If I lived in Colorado I’d consider getting the turbo.
I’m now driving my second Outback and always speak highly of Subaru when people ask me about my car. The best car purchasing experience I’ve ever had was when I bought my 2023 Outback Wilderness edition. The dealership and the salesperson were fantastic. Oh, and Alex, I bought it from the dealership you work for!
I love my current 2018 and 2015 Legacy and loved my first Subaru, a 1988 GL. My concern is that I like driving a sedan and there is no sedan in the future lineup leaving me with few choices. The Camry is one of the few available options. I hope sedans make a comeback. (I also love a manual transmission)
I just bought the 2025 legacy. Had a 2012 legacy and needed a new car, shopped around for other sedans but i just ended up getting another Legacy, the last model before its discontinued. There was not enough about the accord or camry that made me pull the trigger. Even looked at acura and lexus, but didnt feel they were worth 60-70k. 2025 Legacy is so nice!
I liked my leased 2020 Outback Limited that I bought it when my lease was over. Have been Subaru owners for years, my wife last August ordered a 2024 Legacy Touring XT. It is the 8th Subaru vehicle we have either leased or owned, and have not experienced any major problems. If we needed anything (tires, wiper blades, low tire pressure), our local Subaru dealer took care of them immediately, even if we didn’t have an appointment! I have had no problems in updating either the the console software or installing the map updates (either over the air or using a memory stick). Will be Subaru owners for the rest of our lives.
Alex - I've always enjoyed your videos, and I'm a long-time Subaru owner (7 to this point). What I'm about to say is mostly for Subaru of America (in hopes that they are interested in the comments). I recently sold my Outback Wilderness, though it pained me to do so. But it all came down to two things: the CVT and the infotainment system. The CVT is just a poor pairing with the 2.4T engine. What's odd is that it's great on the 2.5 and 2.0 engines... but it just feels uninspired on the 2.4T Wilderness. As for the infotainment... well... it was just so laggy compared to contemporary offerings from others. But the CVT was depressing to drive on the 2.4T. And I love to drive. I would come back to Subaru in a heartbeat if they raided Toyota's parts bin for a good automatic transmission to put in the Wilderness line. I do miss my Outback. But not that boring transmission. Anyway, thanks again for the videos... been watching a long time (and I still own a Crosstrek), so I'm still part of the family... just with one leg out the door. 🙂
My best friend has an Acura and has driven my Subaru Outback many times and always comments on how much smoother the drive is and how the visibility is so much better! I never realized it was because of the mirror placement!
I came from an '21 RDX to '24 Outback, and I can't agree more. I thought the RDX was comfortable and ride was good, but Outback really surprises me that it is actually feels better, may be not by a lot but certainly better!
I just love Subaru so so so much😊❤ My all time favorite car ever!
I had a Camry and a Tacoma from 2003-2023 but switched to a 2023 Outback and am very happy. Absolutely agreed on driver seat visibility: far better in the Outback. Both the Camry and the Tacoma then at least had very dangerous A pillars, and I had a number of near collisions leaving stop signs with cars coming from the right because of it. This has not been a problem at all in the Outback. Agreed as well on safety and consumer-oriented Subie dealers.
Something for your Boxer engine. Many aircraft have the same horizontally opposed designed.
Subaru seems to listen to their customers more.
Forester stayed the same in many important aspects - visibility, size, trunk shape etc.
As a 2020 Forester owner I really appreciate it. F is the biggest car I can own. Nothing bigger fits to my driveway and on the roads I use.
Yes, Toyota is the gold standard against which all others are measured.
Another Subaru cudo, The Lafayette plant must be a decent employer. My cousin graduated Purdue Engineering. Got job at Subaru same town. As a supervising engineer 25 years looking toward retirement at 30. Pretty rare these days . Was able to save on our 2020 OB Touring.
I have owned 4 subarus, including my current '23 Forester, so I admit to stopping by just for a hit of confirmation bias. 😊
Hi, Alex, I am guessing that America is quite a lot like Australia, re: EV recharging infrastructure.
Services are increasing in metropolitan centres, yet the regional and rural areas are vast, and under-serviced?
Also, we don’t have the luxury of time, to sit around and wait for the car to re-charge before getting low before reaching where we want to go, and then finding that the charge point is either: vandalised, unsuitable for your specific type of battery, or simply not within range!
How will Subaru be attending to these major hurdles, and, as I’ve just purchased ( and am still awaiting delivery of) a 2024 Outback Touring XT, how much support will be on-going for ICE vehicles?
As always, your videos are incredibly helpful, insightful, and make our decisions more informed!
Thank you.
very good Alex, that was very informative👍👍
That forester visibility is crazy- I actually hated the fishbowl effect. I bought an OBW…I love it….thanks for these videos Alex! 🥰⛺️🥾🥾🐾🐾
I bought a Subaru Crosstrek recently (my first Subaru) after terrible shopping experiences at two different Toyota dealers. The Subaru buying experience was amazing. I hope that if Subaru and Toyota become more aligned in the future that that Subaru NEVER adopts any of Toyota’s terrible sales and pricing tactics. If they do, I’ll walk. In the meantime I’ll keep enjoying my Crosstrek.
As a long time Toyota Driver (RIP my 2005 Corolla), I have happily converted to Subaru with my 2023 Forester Premium. My only wish is there were more hybrid/plug in options!
Alex, lets talk about the head gaskets.
I really enjoy your channel-it's very informative! I have a quick question: Does Subaru provide reminders for all fluid services, or just for the engine oil changes?
@@erickgonzalez244 thank you! Just for engine oil, filter, and tires. But if you’re getting it serviced at a Subaru retailer they’ll know when other fluids need topped off or changed.
It would be interesting to compare two models of the 2024 year.
Reliability of Subaru is good, but Toyota is a bit better….coming from an owner of 3 Subaru’s in the past
What do you drive? I bought four Subarus for my family. One died (catastrophic engine failure) at 125K miles. My Ford Explorer (least reliable car ever built) made it to 145K miles before the timing chain tensioners started making noise. Don't settle.
Well if Subaru is better than Toyota, why does Toyota out sell Subaru, Nissan, Honda and Mazda ????
Although recent Subaru vehicles have improved mileage, they can use more efficiency and more power. Adopting Toyota's hybrid designs would be a great move.
Had a rental '24 Subaru Outback for a couple of weeks. Some criticisms. The unboosted version is ponderously slow. It struggled on Boston freeway on ramps. I gritted my teeth getting up to speed in heavy traffic. 2nd criticism is the Outback is top-heavy and unstable on offramps, I suspect this car will flip easily in a panic situation. It wallows like a garbage scow. You've got to keep the speed down on tight curves and offramps. 3rd thing to be aware of....If you are not a tech nerd you will hate the dash display and infotainment system. If you are techie, you'll love it. Very busy with lots of things going on and settings to use. I loved it but if you don't engage in tech, 90% of the features will not be used, or even discovered. Many common settings were hard to find.
Otherwise , the Outback was plush, nice seats, smooth transmission, easy to get in and out of, supple ride, quiet and easy to park.
I completely agree with you about the poor treatment of Toyota sales executives with customers, and I am waiting for the hybrid cars from Subaru soon to buy them.
30 yrs or 300,000
Got 30 yrs now for the 300 000
Woo hoo love my subyroo 😊😊😊😊
Going to add.... originally went to buy Toyota and the salesman said he would be back... waited 20 minutes 😫. I decided if that's how they were selling cars how would they service my car... and that's how I ended up with subaru. The 300,000 mile commercial at Toyota at the time...so I decided that day when I bought subaru 30 yrs or 300,000 miles 😅 my dad says I'm attached to the car lol lol and yesssss to that. Again love my subyroo
Wow yes Subaru’s will last u a life time!
That's amazing!
I doubt it. But, if you want attention, you got it.
@samkitty5894 ? Doubt it...
Not sure if you were commenting on my comment 🤔
But truth it is
Maintenance is key
Another reason Subaru is better than Toyota, in my opinion, is placement of the oil filter on the Subaru. I have a 02 Camry and my daughter has a 12 Camry. Oil filters on both are very hard to get to. I also have a 21 Outback and changing the oil & filter is so much easier than the Camry’s.
I’ve never realized about that with the side mirrors, but it’d be nice if they have the feature of folding the side mirrors in. Like with a button on the panel where the lock/unlock buttons are.
I own two 5th Gen 4Runners, BUT I'd LOVE a 2022-2024 Forester...
Thank you for explaining the "Boxer" engine and the advantages !
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I love Subarus but have to admit having a Hybrid is definitely a checkmark for Toyota. Hopefully Subaru will begin producing one soon..
I went to the Miami Auto Show and Subaru was not there. Eyesight - on a Toyota I can place anything anywhere on my windshield (like a phone mount) but not on Subaru as it may interfere with Eyesight. The killer though for me is dependability. My wife’s Rav4 is older than my 2017 Outback yet I had to replace my catalytic converter a couple years ago. Really appreciated the service rep at the dealer telling me it was time to get a new Subaru. But I thought Subaru’s were dependable 😂. That was quoted as $7200. My new independent garage fixed it for half that! I only needed of catalytic converter replaced.
I had a subaru legacy 2011. I had all the required maintenance and really liked the car very much. However a head gasket blew at 94K miles.
I have owned three Toyotas and five Subaru’s. Both have been terrific but I prefer the Subaru, no contest.
Hi Alex,
Just out of curiosity, what would you say is the average lifespan of Subaru 2,4 liter turbo without major repairs ? Thanks in advance,
Brian
They’re as durable and long lasting as anything else out there as long as you perform regularly scheduled maintenance. Change the oil every 6k miles, tranny fluid every 40k. Have the plugs and internal components checked and/or replaced as needed.
The Subaru Forester is the only Subaru that I actually fit into. However, Toyota does not have a model that I can get into without hurting my neck. I have a long (tall) torso and, even with the seat in the lowest position, the short hair on the top of my head brushes the top frame of the Forester. Toyota and most other manufacturers do not have even 1 vehicle that I can get into safely without injuring my neck due to the lack of height and/or space to lean forward upon entry/exit.
Not even Land Cruiser (and Lexus equivalent)? Haven't seen new generation, but did test drive previous gen few years ago, remember it having really good comfortable seats and wide opening doors.
@@slava_trushkin : The problem is universal due to manufacturers chasing CAFE standards
My question would be: I recently considered a Corolla cross hybrid and the crosstrek. However, I was told that Subaru would not be bringing any hybrids to Canada or the US! What??? Why?? I did settle on the crosstrek by the way but I can’t comprehend why they will not be bringing them? I would have gotten that in a heartbeat!
5 Subaru's cars at last 20 years and now.
Really engineering wonder, AWD, opposite motor.
Crosstrek really the best city crossover and nature adventure for weekend. Thanks for video.
Thank You Alex, you have mentioned many good points in regards to Subaru cars. I have now owned Five new Subaru WRX since 2005 with my current Subaru being 2024 WRX. All being wonderful cars, safe due to its all wheel drive grip, and reliable, with there reasonable 5yr fixed price servicing plan. 👍 Au
I have owned 3 of each brand. Both have been excellent for me
Thanks, Alex. Your videos are always very informative.
Rented a Rav 4 for a road trip just last week. I had a 2011 Outback 2.5i limited until May of this year. Besides the MUCH better acceleration, my Outback was better than the Rav 4 in every way. Doesn't make the Rav 4 a bad car, but it's no Subaru. But seriously, wth are Subarus so SLOW??!
Consider making a video with someone holding the phone for you where you show how to do the manual transmission paddles. A real driving video, so we can see it in action.
I just bought a Crosstrek a new one a wilderness edition I have mixed feelings going from a Jeep Wrangler to this technology nightmare I am 73 and deeply miss my simple Jeep
Let me add that Toyota doesn’t care about providing Canadian 🇨🇦 customers with enough inventory and accordingly Toyota dealers are pumping the prices somewhere between C$ 5k - C$ 15k ..
Great video, Alex!
I’ve been driving Toyotas for years and am leaning heavily towards a forester, I will definitely be reaching out to you when I’m I’m ready to buy dice y’all are just south of the border
I’d be happy to help! The new forester has been great
@@alexpmo I live up in the Indy area and you guys are in my area of search for the best deal.
When my daughter was looking at cars, we compared the crosstrex to the car she ended up getting. I was not impressed with the subaru mpg and the lack of power which is funny because earlier this year, i saw a subaru commercial touting their power. Nothing had changed from the last years model as far as the engine, and i found it to be gutless, a real lack of power.
lol, you should’ve at least taken the time to test drive an Outback XT before you gave up on a Subie. They’re stacked with 260 hp and 277 torque. As fast in a straight line as a WRX!
The Boxer has some durability issues that the toyota na engines at least
Alex I bought a 2024 outback and opted out to have the automatic undercoating done. My question is what should I do to prevent winter from damaging my car.
So... all the new Subaru's are basically re-badged and re-skinned Toyota models now.
Honda does a lot of over msrp stuff and markups hrv starts at 27k and by the end of the day it’s 34k crazy scam
If Subaru sold a 2.5l CV/Crosstrek or had a 2.5 in a standard Impreza then they would be top of my list. Unless it's a WRX or a thirsty larger SUV or legacy they're really underpowered in the UK. Not that I know anything 😕
I have to disagree with the mirror placements on Subaru. The mirrors are too far back in my opinion and takes your eyes away from the road while looking at your right side mirror in particular. Visibility is still good, but the mirror thing still bugs me.
I love my Forester, but she is getting old so we've ordered a new Forester that should be here in a couple of week. Enjoy your information on the newer models, which helps as mine is 7 years old. When it come to toyota, which I have had, the dealerships/service department at toyota where not what I've experienced at Subaru, in fact we have an issue with our Nissan truck that need help which we will be taking to our Subaru dealer, and we can take the dogs with us while service is being done. I see why you have repeat costumers with Subaru