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Комментарии • 201

  • @xander_man
    @xander_man Год назад +251

    FWIW, “cascade, cascade” is 2 abilities, you may only copy 1 of them with Abstruse Archaic for a total of 3 cascades

    • @ricohard1986
      @ricohard1986 Год назад +7

      But you're not copying the cascade your copying the trigger that says "spells of mana cost 7+ gain 'cascade, cascade" which is a single ability. Which resolves twice adding cascade, cascade, cascade, cascade to the text of the spell which then resolve normally

    • @xander_man
      @xander_man Год назад +42

      @@ricohard1986 The “Spells you control gain” is a static ability and not copiable by Abstruse Archaic

    • @matthewtaylor6829
      @matthewtaylor6829 Год назад +9

      Bumping because everyone needs to know this

    • @vampiredarkdragon
      @vampiredarkdragon Год назад +3

      Correct. Each instance of cascade is its own instance of a triggered ability.

    • @Vlaecke
      @Vlaecke Год назад +11

      I know this has been answered, but in case there's someone out there like me who wants the exact reference in the
      CR: 702.85c If a spell has multiple instances of cascade, each triggers separately.

  • @FanOfMostEverything
    @FanOfMostEverything Год назад +102

    I was not prepared for the idea that Commodore Guff is a regeneration of the same Time Lord as Ms. Frizzle.

  • @FWill13
    @FWill13 Год назад +162

    Ben, Ben, Adam, and Kathleen is absolutely my dream blunt rotation

    • @germanyjones2700
      @germanyjones2700 Год назад +4

      C’mon Kath PASS dat ish

    • @OctopusOwl
      @OctopusOwl Год назад +6

      The chillest circle. They’d be so cool to just talk about big concepts together

    • @elscourou6654
      @elscourou6654 Год назад +3

      I'll do you one better. Wheeler, Kathleen, Cameron, Serge and Graham

  • @djmaster293
    @djmaster293 Год назад +71

    Two bens and an adam? I can already tell this episodes going off the rails

  • @jovh8795
    @jovh8795 Год назад +37

    I had to watch the whole video to be sure but Wheeler bottomed every scry he had on Path of Ancestry which means he got full value off his turn one land. Which if nothing else gives him some sort of moral victory involving value.

    • @IRFine
      @IRFine Год назад +4

      He kept one at 1:02:40

  • @Taruan
    @Taruan Год назад +73

    Holy crap that grindr joke conversation was gold! Well done to Matt for that edit

  • @TwoflowerTheTourist
    @TwoflowerTheTourist Год назад +80

    49:00 Small correction, Ben should've cascaded only theee times. You can copy either of the two cascade triggers the spell creates, but there's not a single trigger that you can copy lets you cascade twice.

    • @TwoflowerTheTourist
      @TwoflowerTheTourist Год назад +15

      57:30 Pillar of Origins doesn't enter the battlefield tapped.

    • @ricohard1986
      @ricohard1986 Год назад

      Hes not copying the cascade he's copying the ability that grants double cascade

    • @bondeulv
      @bondeulv Год назад +19

      @@ricohard1986 that ability is a static one, not a triggered or activated one.

  • @LibertyMonk
    @LibertyMonk Год назад +4

    "none cards, left beef" is an iconic reference. It works as a reference, but also, you're all out of cards and still have beef (petty slights) remaining.

  • @whipstitchzombie
    @whipstitchzombie Год назад +30

    these episodes are always so clean cut and entertaining that it makes me want way more than one a month but that's the fallacy

  • @gavinps31
    @gavinps31 Год назад +12

    Who ever is in charge of these new edit jokes, I see you, and appreciate you and your excellent work

  • @StookyBill
    @StookyBill Год назад +5

    wheeler's planeswalking columbo is my favourite thing

  • @thenerdwithoutfear8378
    @thenerdwithoutfear8378 Год назад +17

    It kinda physically hurt me when Kathleen missed getting the Chandra Emblem out.
    Chandra was on 6, using Karns Bastion to proliferate puts it on 7 for the Emblem.
    I had it out last weekend and it's a blast. Just wrecks boards and lifetotals.

    • @345tom
      @345tom Год назад +2

      I hope you sought help with your pain!
      Honestly, piloting the Guff deck there's so many ability choices going around it can be a pain to think through all the lines. It's not the waterfall of triggers of the Enchantress deck, where the issue is keeping track, the issue is just active actions. It's a fun deck, but it's real bad for decision paralysis or adapting board states.

  • @Mordalon
    @Mordalon Год назад +9

    Since it doesn't target, Ghoulish Impetus' ability that puts it directly onto the battlefield can put it on creatures with hexproof/shroud. This comes up a lot with effects like Retether than can return Auras directly to the battlefield from the graveyard or effects that flicker Auras.

  • @keab42
    @keab42 Год назад +10

    I love Adam's humour when he plays EDH.

  • @evanjcameron
    @evanjcameron Год назад +3

    the chaotic alignment of each side of this table is delicious.

  • @nerd_mor
    @nerd_mor Год назад +4

    "I've got the thoughts of 3000 slivers in my head" is the best ADHD description I've ever heard

  • @BasicandBizarre
    @BasicandBizarre 11 месяцев назад +2

    OK, I was NOT expecting the Guff deck to go that hard! Wow.

  • @gaz-l621
    @gaz-l621 Год назад +6

    I'm so glad the pandemic made Columbo into a thing The Youth enjoy, it's a gift that keeps giving

  • @sirspate
    @sirspate Год назад +5

    Kudos to the editor(s) for the symbology choice at 15:09

  • @joshbaker1639
    @joshbaker1639 Год назад +7

    Didn’t see that end coming. Each deck looks awesome, even if they are quite expensive.

  • @JRandomHacker
    @JRandomHacker Год назад +2

    "I get a bunch of triggers"
    - Adam, summarizing playing Enchantress

  • @MrSwordJ
    @MrSwordJ Год назад +11

    I dearly wish y'all had more time slots to produce these.

  • @hqueso
    @hqueso Год назад +4

    I'm so excited to see an new EDSC that I spontaneously engaged with the content!

  • @tomireland3644
    @tomireland3644 Год назад

    Thank you!
    Hugely grateful for the change in sound mixing so the harsh horn doesn't cut through and over the voice of everyone.
    It hurt my head and it's really good to be able to chill out listening and watching the show.
    Lovely bunch of folks playing fun and powerful decks. Always happy when everyone gets to pop off 💙💙💙

  • @rachelkerns5259
    @rachelkerns5259 Год назад +8

    Okay first off I wanna say I love this video and everyone at lrr. Great editing and my favorite commander game play on this sphere of the internet. I really hope someone reads this: please pick a different ambience track you’ve used this same one for multiple EDSC and every 7 mins the Saxophone goes off on a crazy solo that makes it hard to hear the players. Again greatest respect for everything you do, and if the track stays I’ll still watch.

    • @Half_Dupl3x
      @Half_Dupl3x Год назад +4

      i literally did not even notice the background music until i read this comment

    • @migueletcetc
      @migueletcetc Год назад

      Came to the comment section to see if somebody else was talking about it, I agree completely. Happens in many previous videos too. It is great content, but it has that headache inducing element.

  • @samuelcouey8946
    @samuelcouey8946 Год назад +7

    “All I wanna do, is see Adam cast into, a giant woman….”

  • @incrediblefrown1288
    @incrediblefrown1288 Год назад +4

    10:30 they did have half art wastes in the bfz precons; i worked a card store and always complained to our database people that the entry for them didn't meaningfully differentiate them from the full arts, and they never did anything about it. presumably because there was zero demand for them and thus no actual chance of error. but it still bothered me!!

  • @hetarthpatel8297
    @hetarthpatel8297 7 месяцев назад

    shout out to ben for the kingdom hearts reference " simple and clean" Love this show!😃

  • @MidoriKeen
    @MidoriKeen Год назад +1

    "The Brothers Yasuo" got me hard; someone's been playing a lot of LoL!

  • @user-wy7rx2po3t
    @user-wy7rx2po3t Год назад +1

    the way Matt JUMPSCARED me with the grindr notif sound is unacceptable.....

  • @BeAware3
    @BeAware3 Год назад +1

    The planeswalker party is the most fun precon I've ever had. I've beefed it up a little bit and it wrecks. So much so that people have procured the "immoetal sun" to stop me lol

  • @bvorhies
    @bvorhies Год назад

    Thank you for doing elder dragon social club. Honestly if feels like watching a group of friends play and having fun. Thank you once again for bring joy to those around. It really does help being able to make it though a week.

  • @kizikucalegon8673
    @kizikucalegon8673 Год назад +3

    19:23 - fun fact, the voice actor who did Scruff McGruff is in prison on drug and weapon charges. So, uh.. no treat, bad dog?

  • @spellbreakerunbound
    @spellbreakerunbound Год назад +3

    1:15:30 Play Spark Double, copying Guff, play Chad, swing with Leori at a player and name Guff, -3 OG Guff for 6 damage, -3 Spark Guff for 6 more damage is lethal, no? Fun game tho, love seeing gameplay of the CMM decks, even if they’re overpriced!

  • @Crowned_Goblin
    @Crowned_Goblin Год назад +2

    The Grindr messages were WILD.

  • @shaneportis520
    @shaneportis520 Год назад +3

    Never realized until this game that Spirited Companion was an enchantment creature

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon Год назад +1

      It's a key part of why it was so good in Kamigawa limited and not just an Elvish Visionary recolor.

  • @IraRadchuk
    @IraRadchuk Год назад +1

    Ben's introduction and Adam's and Wheeler's comments on it left me in stitches. And tbat's only 2 minutes in!

  • @Redonx
    @Redonx Год назад

    Wheeler's joke at 22:36 was so underappreciated at the table for how good it is (and the edit was very good too)

  • @axelostlund2348
    @axelostlund2348 Год назад +12

    And thus we see a new engagement of dragons in social matters.

  • @ArcanaMaxima
    @ArcanaMaxima Год назад +1

    3:39
    "Have they ever made a Sliver that didn't care about Slivers?"
    I don't know if this qualifies, but I do know of one Sliver card that does not have any abilities itself; Sliver Construct.

    • @jedrzejkraszewski816
      @jedrzejkraszewski816 Год назад +1

      Plus there's its earlier buddies, bigger Venser's Sliver from Time Spiral, and smaller Metallic Sliver from the first appearance of Slivers in Tempest.

  • @TejanoPendragon
    @TejanoPendragon Год назад +1

    In this episode, I learned that Weeler Loves Me
    Also that Wheeler does not have my best interests in heart
    I do not know how to reconcile these two pieces of information

  • @MrThewooter
    @MrThewooter Год назад +2

    Huh, I guess Adam is in a polycule with Chandra and Nissa now. Neat.

  • @sandmanlives3
    @sandmanlives3 Год назад

    Excellent, as always. Thank you.
    I’m a big fan of Wheeler’s cult. 😊1:21:42

  • @markbrierley6367
    @markbrierley6367 Год назад +3

    I had always interpreted the scene in which Guff rewrites future history as complicated time magic and not self awareness or 4th wall breaking.

    • @NickTheDM
      @NickTheDM Год назад +2

      I mean the line between the two is pretty narrow, so that’s a valid interpretation.

    • @PiquantPan
      @PiquantPan Год назад +2

      Guff's entire presence in the novels is constant 4th-wall-breaking and veiled references to MTG lore. the specific scene where he rewrites history isn't played for laughs as much as his other antics, it does have tension and drama to it, but it's still very goofy overall since Guff knows that he exists in a timeline that is able to be rewritten on an order of magnitude higher than Teferi's time magic.
      Compare him to another "All-knowing Librarian" trope like Wan Shi Tong in ATLA, who knows everything that's been written, but doesn't have the power to influence what has or hasn't happened.

  • @Wiitigo_X
    @Wiitigo_X 6 месяцев назад

    Sliver construct is a 2/2 for 3 generic that is an artifact creature sliver with nothing but flavor text so there is technically a sliver that doesn't care about slivers

  • @PsionicMonk
    @PsionicMonk 5 месяцев назад +1

    The only sliver I know of that doesn't directly help other slivers is that artifact sliver with no abilities, and technically most changelings

  • @gogglestherandom5701
    @gogglestherandom5701 Год назад +1

    All praise our Glorious Gladiator Godfather

  • @SymphoneersGaming
    @SymphoneersGaming Год назад +2

    Adam AND the Bens? I'd like to formally register an ook ook.

    • @broshmosh
      @broshmosh Год назад

      Not to be confused with Adam And The Bends, a cuationary tale about diving and blood oxygen.

  • @DarthChewdup
    @DarthChewdup 10 месяцев назад

    they did print non-fullart wastes in a colorless event deck back in oath of the gatewatch

  • @andrewtl7988
    @andrewtl7988 Год назад +2

    Okay but why all the Crashing Drawbridge hate?! Repeatable on-board haste not in red? It's a great card in the right deck

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon Год назад

      Occasionally they chose the weirdest cards to pick on.

  • @stephenbradford8524
    @stephenbradford8524 Год назад +2

    My experience with the Zhulodok deck is that, out of the box, "cascade" hits too many X spells.

  • @minine6508
    @minine6508 4 месяца назад

    59:02 this is just the plot of Grim Fandango

  • @18nightc322
    @18nightc322 Год назад

    This was the most Anime magic thing. The power of friendship truly rocked around.

  • @TamesLovesGames
    @TamesLovesGames Год назад

    Me, last night: I wonder if LRR will do an EDSC about the Commander Masters decks
    Me, today: Heck yeah!

  • @thomaswhite3059
    @thomaswhite3059 Год назад

    I don't know if James has a kid but that time to lean guff means he's a Dad

  • @isyraqzaki9727
    @isyraqzaki9727 Год назад +1

    Not the grindr notification sounds 💀💀💀

  • @PUDRETE919
    @PUDRETE919 Год назад

    10:35 They printed non-full art Wastes into the Oath of the Gatewatch fatpack, one got full arts out of the boosters but the basic land pack had non full art

  • @SackofDooDoo
    @SackofDooDoo Год назад

    I played 3 precon games with these decks, each of which players rotated decks, and Guff won all of them (while being archenemy the whole game each time). We dubbed the deck "DifGufftin." I was glad to see that it began differently for you guys...yet ended the same. GG, nonetheless!

  • @TheCookieCrisp
    @TheCookieCrisp Год назад

    I don't know if it's just my phone but this looks amazing! Great color and very crisp!

  • @jamesbalch3751
    @jamesbalch3751 11 месяцев назад

    Jeremy brought the City's Blessing to the fashion show

  • @Tclark6199
    @Tclark6199 Год назад

    "But after....switch" I fucking lost it 🤣🤣🤣

  • @sushimahjongfc
    @sushimahjongfc 11 месяцев назад

    I love the simple and clean reference ❤

  • @IxWxSxProud
    @IxWxSxProud Год назад

    Ben referencing Simple and Clean almost made me scream

  • @insainraven9875
    @insainraven9875 Год назад +1

    Ok but I would a hundred percent love a persona secret lair

  • @HakureiIllusion
    @HakureiIllusion Год назад +2

    I think Kathleen had lethal if she Spark Double'd Guff, attacked with Leori, called Guff, then bolted everyone four times...

  • @williamriven
    @williamriven Год назад

    I'm engaging because nobody knows a better way to get the recommendation algorithm to work.

  • @meaghansharp6906
    @meaghansharp6906 Год назад

    37:12 Now I wanna know the origins of "giddy up" lol

  • @michaelbutta4764
    @michaelbutta4764 Год назад

    @LRRMTG would you mind telling me what type of dice you guys use in your gameplay? (specifically the oversized ones with numerals instead of pips). They are spiffy!

  • @grelgen
    @grelgen Год назад

    Kathleen working that BM final turn to it's maximum.

  • @ViciousVic595
    @ViciousVic595 Год назад

    25:09 I ask myself that every fucking day and still don’t have an answer!

  • @woofwife
    @woofwife Год назад

    god i would join wheeler's cult in a second

  • @kilo3989
    @kilo3989 Год назад +1

    15:09 Using the colorless Phyrexian mana symbol as a censor bar is inspired tbh 😂

  • @IRFine
    @IRFine Год назад

    Prediction for who’s on what deck:
    Wheeler: Guff
    Ben: Eldrazi
    Adam: Enchantments
    Kathleen: Slivers
    Lets see if I’m right

  • @WeatheredPeach
    @WeatheredPeach Год назад

    Heavy are the eyes that ponder the orb.

  • @HopefulAgnostic
    @HopefulAgnostic Год назад

    1:22:13 Adam cannot attack any Gideon, both say that you can only attack that exact gideon. Because both say that you can only attack Gideon (the gamepiece, not a card with the name) you cant attack either.

  • @jameshaga5400
    @jameshaga5400 Год назад

    Now that eldraine is out with its 2 precons Im hopin we get to see the 2 from All will be one and eldraine fight.

  • @aririran7749
    @aririran7749 Год назад

    wheelers face at 21:26 tho 🤣

  • @IRFine
    @IRFine Год назад +1

    So Guff isn’t really a self-insert, per se.
    It’s true that he’s based off the Magic story lead Scott McGough, but McGough didn’t write or create the character. J. Robert King, the author of the Invasion trilogy, made him. It’s like making a character based on your boss, I guess

    • @magnusprime962
      @magnusprime962 10 месяцев назад

      I think she was meaning that Guff was a self-insert writer when he rewrote history

  • @finnsclarinet
    @finnsclarinet Год назад

    Original Gideon is the best way of saying OG ever

  • @ronaldkantelberg
    @ronaldkantelberg Год назад

    Good to see there's always time to sh*t on James, even during commander games. 😂

  • @vipershutendoji2415
    @vipershutendoji2415 Год назад +1

    Shoulder devils, Auntie Blyte entered the chat

  • @tobybeauchamp2323
    @tobybeauchamp2323 Год назад +1

    Ben forgot the cascade trigger from Ugin unfortunately. It’s colourless spells! 1:26:27

    • @bondeulv
      @bondeulv Год назад

      ...with mana value 7 or greater 😉
      Ugin is 6 unfortunately.

    • @tobybeauchamp2323
      @tobybeauchamp2323 Год назад

      @@bondeulv got my ugins confused 🤣🤣

  • @irudeathmasacoru1172
    @irudeathmasacoru1172 Год назад

    Kathleen didn't pay the 1 red for Blasphemous Act, sheesh XD

  • @ff0213
    @ff0213 Год назад +1

    Slithers and Adam - name a better combination inside and outside of magic

  • @MiffoKarin
    @MiffoKarin Год назад +2

    Great game and great editing!

  • @gamefreak3072
    @gamefreak3072 Год назад

    maybe its the edible but I died at the back and forth between bens

  • @matthugenberg8869
    @matthugenberg8869 Год назад +3

    You do not cascade 4 times, as each cascade is a separate trigger. You should only get 3 cascades.

    • @gaz-l621
      @gaz-l621 Год назад

      Eh, people make mistakes and it's not like Ben got much value off the 4th one.

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon Год назад +2

      @@gaz-l621 I don't see what's wrong without pointing it out, at least so other people don't make the same mistake.

  • @uriahatkinson2103
    @uriahatkinson2103 Год назад

    This game was crazy , I’m into that ,now power up the decks and play again,I think Adam deck went off more in my opinion

  • @jmcauley650
    @jmcauley650 Год назад +3

    God I love Wheeler Magic VODs

  • @joe_h_Redwire
    @joe_h_Redwire Год назад

    As Adam would say, I popped when I saw this in my feed.

  • @marcushead9985
    @marcushead9985 Год назад

    It's rare when I can't decide who to cheer for.

  • @ryanmann5497
    @ryanmann5497 11 месяцев назад

    Fun fact, there are 3 slivers that don’t give af about slivers and they are all artifact slivers… I forget their names but I have all 3 😂

  • @daviddotson765
    @daviddotson765 Год назад

    Kathleen and the rowdy boiz. 10/10 content.

  • @TheOnlyOrk
    @TheOnlyOrk Год назад

    god these decks look so cool. Wish they weren't so dang expensive

  • @tomserdar412
    @tomserdar412 Год назад

    Wonderful game! I love that Kathleen won!

  • @KomradeKrisis1701
    @KomradeKrisis1701 Год назад

    ACAB includes Scruff McGruff.

  • @kilo3989
    @kilo3989 Год назад

    I'm rooting for "Ms. Frizzle, probably"!

  • @Arti_Shovelhead
    @Arti_Shovelhead Год назад

    A nice break from my Fam Jam marathon.

  • @GiantTromboner
    @GiantTromboner Год назад

    I have to ask about the michael brecker/jaco pastorius version of Everything Happens to me that’s in a lot of the stream vids or the EDSC vids. Whats the deal?

  • @Giga-lemesh
    @Giga-lemesh Год назад

    Very excited to see these decks