For those who will read the comments, gotta let Nelson know that I think he has a point. The eldrazi from that set and a bunch of those colorless cards are genuinely some of the coolest cards in magic. I overlooked them for a long time and have been slowly rediscovering them over time. Nelson is so brave, and so very admired.
I think the ingest/processor idea is incredibly cool. The idea of a new alternative resource, and one that synergizes out-of-set with other exile mechanics, is a great design. It just sucks that all the processors were so meh to unplayable outside of draft.
Hopefully getting this in before the comments rip me apart. I accidentally drained for 3 life on a Ring trigger instead of just making my opponent lose 3 life
It's fine; there were a bunch of stuff missed this game. We get it. Commander is complex. Nobody gets everything. Doesn't make y'all less fun to watch.
[Heavy breathing] How *DARE* you make a single game error in a notoriously complex format of an already complicated card game while you and your wonderful co-workers were making cheerful videos for us to enjoy over the holidays. I definitely noticed this error and wasn't distracted by all the charming banter. I certainly won't be continuing to enjoy and support the Loading Ready Run network any longer! Happy Holidays, sir, happy holidays!
Bonus points if she is in the game already. She is sitting on 1 side of the table, but then she comes up from the other side to give a lore dump before slinking under the table again. Bonus bonus points if she is wearing something different so it looks like a separate Kathleen and not that she just crawled under the table.
Wheeler: Take this point of damage, and beware as it lowers your life total! Graham: Ooh, that's bad. W: But it comes from a free Frogurt! G: That's good. W: The Frogurt is also my Commander. G: That's bad. W: But he's friends with a very good pig. G: That's good! W: The pig combos with Sanguine Bond. G: ... W: That's bad. G: Can I go now?
I love how wheeler just completely missed the "draw a card if you are on step 2 or more of the ring when frodo attacks" line. And I'm not talking about the loot you get from the ring trigger. Frodo himself draws you an additional card when he attacks if you are on step 2 or more. So he should be draw 2 discard 1 when he attacks
@@irreleverentlevel two of the ring definitely says "Whenever your Ring-bearer attacks, draw a card, then discard a card." And Frodo's ability stacks with it to draw you a second card if he is the ring bearer.
@FineOtter at the time the Attack is declared, Wheeler had only been tempted once so the loot trigger is missed. He should have just drawn instead of looted. Tempt Count: 0 Frodo Attack 1 > Get tempted Tempt Count: 1 Frodo Attack 2 > Get tempted and draw Tempt Cound: 2 Frodo Attack 3+ > Get tempted and draw; loot
I only recently built my first colourless commander deck so I’m very aware of this rule atm, and I felt spiritual pain when the only land that Nelson hit was the tower 😅😅😅
I noticed that too. I’m surprised they remembered the corner case rules on knick knacks and patty wacks but not the commander tower one. Oh well. Ever since a certain spine incident, I’ve taken to just calling these special, paper alchemy versions.
It's Vashta Nerada... What a wonderful phrase... It's Vashta Nerada... Ain't no passing craze... It means no blocking 🎵 For the rest of your days 🎶 It's a problem, see 🎵 I need some S to P 🎶 It's Vashta Nerada 🎵
Since Nelson won’t be reading this, and I know Wheeler always does, can you tell him that I’m fully in agreement with him on his opinions about Oath of the Gatewatch. The eldrazi in that set were wildly interesting and I loved them.
The fun thing is that if Ben had let Gisela go to the yard after that Mortify, she would've been targetable by Dawnbreak Reclaimer, and also his Emeria if that hadn't worked for some reason
He also could have had Emeria active a long long time earlier - he showed everyone he has a Plains and then discarded it instead of letting Graham draw a card, everyone assuming it's worthless, when it was in fact the 7th one.
I thought that too. I guess he just did autopilot straight to the command zone with his new deck. Hopefully it’s a little interaction he can remember next time.
Fellow meld lover, hard disagree about Urza. It's my favorite meld and I built an entire commander deck around melding out the first Planeswalker! It usually melds, but rarely wins as everyone piles on to stop the artificer, have a blast each time I play it.
One of the "Rule Zero" rules I have seen, and like involving Meld cards like Gisela and Bruna is not necessarily making them the equiv of "Partner Commanders" but allowing the player to shuffle the non-Commander half back into their deck if the card gets exiled (or even put in the graveyard.) Otherwise it just kinda sucks if you can never use the Meld ability because half of that ability got removed from the game early or something.
I have an Angel deck with Giada as the commander. It has a bunch of simular Angels. Not as heavy in the lifegain. Giada does ramp for Angel spells and makes those Angels bigger. So it can get out of hand quickly.
In the first Swedish translation of Bilbo ("Hompen eller En resa dit och tillbaksigen") from 1947 (First Tolkien translation really), Bilbo was not named Bilbo but rather Bimbo , this was thankfully reverted in later translations. But we could be saying Bimbo Baggins all the time, imagine
The command tower that Nelson stole from wheeler cannot produce mana in his colorless eldrazi deck. As such he didn't actually have 10 mana when he took out wheeler at the end.
Matt with the attempted correction right at the end there but no, Graham was right; 25 decks released, they're playing with four but Bens doesn't count because he's special - leaving 22 other decks to choose from ;) Merry chrimbo all :)
Wheeler should have read Frogurt all the way to the end. He draws a card when his attack trigger happens if you have been tempted twice or more times. 2023 magic cards, I know.
Nah, nah, Nelson is absolutely correct. I started in BFZ and wasn't playing limited but damn if those preconstructed decks went hard. My favorite sets, along with original Ixalan.
Just throwing this in but I happen to work at a movie theater in kingston ON, Yogenfruz is still here and it is EXTREMELY popular still. Just saying.... if anyone is in the area and wants some. Come find it 😂
For those who will read the comments, gotta let Nelson know that I think he has a point. The eldrazi from that set and a bunch of those colorless cards are genuinely some of the coolest cards in magic. I overlooked them for a long time and have been slowly rediscovering them over time. Nelson is so brave, and so very admired.
I remember when the original eldrazi dropped. I think that set was 2008. I had other stuff going on but years later have gone back and looked.
Agreed!
I think the ingest/processor idea is incredibly cool. The idea of a new alternative resource, and one that synergizes out-of-set with other exile mechanics, is a great design. It just sucks that all the processors were so meh to unplayable outside of draft.
Definitely feel like overall it was just overhated.
OGW is also one of my favorite sets. couldn't agree more with nelson!
3:20 "I really liked Oath of the Gatewatch" [extremely correct alarm sounds] "I also won't be reading the comments" [alarm doubles in intensity]
And a Vashta Nerada to you all as well :)
Hopefully getting this in before the comments rip me apart. I accidentally drained for 3 life on a Ring trigger instead of just making my opponent lose 3 life
Meh
You know the comment section is a safe and easy place to exist. I’m sure no one will mention it
May the odds be ever in your favour lol
It's fine; there were a bunch of stuff missed this game. We get it. Commander is complex. Nobody gets everything. Doesn't make y'all less fun to watch.
[Heavy breathing]
How *DARE* you make a single game error in a notoriously complex format of an already complicated card game while you and your wonderful co-workers were making cheerful videos for us to enjoy over the holidays. I definitely noticed this error and wasn't distracted by all the charming banter. I certainly won't be continuing to enjoy and support the Loading Ready Run network any longer! Happy Holidays, sir, happy holidays!
I know from experience how hard that deck can be to keep track of. So many triggers. Making mistakes with it is completely understandable.
yup missed the each opponent loses 3 life
I do like those jokes where the person on camera is like, "we should edit that out" and the editor is like, "No. Suffer."
Establishing the canon that Kathleen is just hiding under table ready to give lore drops when needed implies an exciting future for EDSC
Bonus points if she is in the game already. She is sitting on 1 side of the table, but then she comes up from the other side to give a lore dump before slinking under the table again. Bonus bonus points if she is wearing something different so it looks like a separate Kathleen and not that she just crawled under the table.
“Matt has heard this and is unmoved” really got me 😂
Wheeler KILLIN’ it with that Knick-Knack Patty-Whack joke.
I got an un-skipable ad right after "Ho Ho Hobit" and I can't think of a better modern representation of a cane dragging Wheeler off stage.
Wheeler: Take this point of damage, and beware as it lowers your life total!
Graham: Ooh, that's bad.
W: But it comes from a free Frogurt!
G: That's good.
W: The Frogurt is also my Commander.
G: That's bad.
W: But he's friends with a very good pig.
G: That's good!
W: The pig combos with Sanguine Bond.
G: ...
W: That's bad.
G: Can I go now?
Pleasantly surprised to see a video today of all days! Of course, you all would have already celebrated Canadian Christmas last month.
😂
Have to admit , the surprise Kathleen lore shot at 8:42 caught me off guard lol
Ahhh the Festivus Airing of Grievances and Feats of Strength. I love the holidays.
I love how wheeler just completely missed the "draw a card if you are on step 2 or more of the ring when frodo attacks" line. And I'm not talking about the loot you get from the ring trigger. Frodo himself draws you an additional card when he attacks if you are on step 2 or more. So he should be draw 2 discard 1 when he attacks
In fact it's funny on level 2 of the ring you actually are just supposed to draw, you don't get to loot.
@@irreleverentlevel two of the ring definitely says "Whenever your Ring-bearer attacks, draw a card, then discard a card." And Frodo's ability stacks with it to draw you a second card if he is the ring bearer.
@FineOtter at the time the Attack is declared, Wheeler had only been tempted once so the loot trigger is missed. He should have just drawn instead of looted.
Tempt Count: 0
Frodo Attack 1 > Get tempted
Tempt Count: 1
Frodo Attack 2 > Get tempted and draw
Tempt Cound: 2
Frodo Attack 3+ > Get tempted and draw; loot
@@FineOtter Yes. And you gain level 2 of the ring *after* Frodo has been declared attacking, and therefore too late to trigger that ability.
Graham snacking simply delights me, this is the true friday night friend group commander experience and I'm here for it
cheers!
"I said a hip, hop, a hobbit" - Gaffer's Delight
Underrated comment
Graham is the best at giving gifts. Thank you for being you, Graham.
Command Tower, stolen from Oblivion Sower, doesn’t make mana for Nelson’s colorless commander 😂😂😂
I only recently built my first colourless commander deck so I’m very aware of this rule atm, and I felt spiritual pain when the only land that Nelson hit was the tower 😅😅😅
@@KomradeKrisis1701 Good thing none of them are certified MtG Judges ;)
I was coming down here to say just this same thing. Command Tower is one of the worst hits for a colorless deck because of how it is worded.
I noticed that too. I’m surprised they remembered the corner case rules on knick knacks and patty wacks but not the commander tower one. Oh well. Ever since a certain spine incident, I’ve taken to just calling these special, paper alchemy versions.
Vashta Nerada
What a wonderful phrase
It means don't worry about blocking
When you wrath this one stays
Is it just me or is Graham entering his Mr. Roger's Phase with his outfit?
I mean, he has the soft, kind demeanor for that comparison.
Love the cameo from the Lore Elf (Kathleen)! 😊
Edit: oh wait we're supposed to only comment about Trading Post? Uh, it's ok 😅
It's Vashta Nerada...
What a wonderful phrase...
It's Vashta Nerada...
Ain't no passing craze...
It means no blocking 🎵
For the rest of your days 🎶
It's a problem, see 🎵
I need some S to P 🎶
It's Vashta Nerada 🎵
Wheeler getting married!?
Does his roommate know?
No, but his husband does!
@@Dunnston170which husband, Graham or Nelson?
I shared a brain cell with all of them when they said “M’Davros.” I literally did the exact same thing. Y’all are legendary! Lol xD
MATT HAS HEARD THIS AND IS UNMOVED. 🤣
Since Nelson won’t be reading this, and I know Wheeler always does, can you tell him that I’m fully in agreement with him on his opinions about Oath of the Gatewatch. The eldrazi in that set were wildly interesting and I loved them.
I agree. Every time I come across one I haven’t seen before, I look at the set symbol and it’s always that set.
23:40
Wheeler: "That deck is just not okay."
Ben: "Well, blame Nelson, not Graham."
Nelson: "Merry Christmas guys.
The fun thing is that if Ben had let Gisela go to the yard after that Mortify, she would've been targetable by Dawnbreak Reclaimer, and also his Emeria if that hadn't worked for some reason
yep really baffled by this play tbh
He also could have had Emeria active a long long time earlier - he showed everyone he has a Plains and then discarded it instead of letting Graham draw a card, everyone assuming it's worthless, when it was in fact the 7th one.
I thought that too. I guess he just did autopilot straight to the command zone with his new deck. Hopefully it’s a little interaction he can remember next time.
24:58 Ben spitting facts, Nelson spitting fire!
As the 2024 holidays approach, I want to say I hope yall do a similar episode this year. The gifts were so thoughtful and a fun game overall!
Thanks for having us, it's great to comment here
1:26:02 It's farmer Gaffer Bumper from Bumper Crops, here with his suggestively shaped...vegetable?
EDSC is one of my favorite Magic shows. Keep up the great work!
Nelly, my first Commander Deck was Tazri Allies so Gatwatch holds a special place in my heart as well ❤
Not me crying a little at hearing Nelson defend Oath of the Gatewatch. Also one of my faves. 😅
Fellow meld lover, hard disagree about Urza. It's my favorite meld and I built an entire commander deck around melding out the first Planeswalker! It usually melds, but rarely wins as everyone piles on to stop the artificer, have a blast each time I play it.
All of the BRO melds were cool.
nelson, you should read the comments. you're one of my favourite people on LRR and i enjoy your bravery and enthusiasm
Merry/Happy Christmas, everyone.
Merry Crimbo everyone!
lore goblin kathleen making an appearance!
This was such a delight. :D
Merry Christmas, everyone! 🎄
A new EDSC on Christmas? Eeeeeeeee! This is the gift I've been waiting for !
Merry Christmas my Canadian friends. Thanks for all the great content..
Delightful as always! Happy holidays!
Thanks for a great video LRR! It was great to see everyone’s decks do their thing and being so different 😊
One of the "Rule Zero" rules I have seen, and like involving Meld cards like Gisela and Bruna is not necessarily making them the equiv of "Partner Commanders" but allowing the player to shuffle the non-Commander half back into their deck if the card gets exiled (or even put in the graveyard.) Otherwise it just kinda sucks if you can never use the Meld ability because half of that ability got removed from the game early or something.
Sounds terrible.
Overall, Rules as written, the brisela combo can lead to lots of sad times for the brisela player :(
But rule Zeroing can be very helpful and fun~
Loved this episode so much wacky fun 😁
"NOTHING! HE DID NOTHING! HERE'S BILBO!" is not something I thought I needed Wheeler to yell so agressively
indeed~
The gift of LRR - EDSC on Christmas! Exactly what I wanted
*Matt has heard this and is unmoved.*
I agree with Nelly, I have a five color Morophon devoid eldrazi deck and it uses a lot of interesting cards from that block!!
Sweet deck idea!
I have an Angel deck with Giada as the commander. It has a bunch of simular Angels. Not as heavy in the lifegain. Giada does ramp for Angel spells and makes those Angels bigger. So it can get out of hand quickly.
Me too, it was the first EDH deck that I created.
Moi aussi. I bought the Angels Secret lair to swap some cards into my main angels deck but tried it first and was shocked at how mediocre it plays.
Didn't think I'd say this, but I want that Dr Who deck now. Davros looked so fun (for Graham). Lol
Happy Holidays again LRR fam! 🎉🎉🎉
Happy holidays!
49:14 i laughed and said out loud, "nelson, i enjoyed that."
Had to doublecheck since it's been a while since I watched it, but it is indeed Graham who plays "The Gatekeeper" in the sketch of the same name :D
Merry Christmas! Hope Nelson reads this
Frogurt Slim is my favourite 90's rap duo
Y’all got each other fancy af Commander decks
I was really shocked Nelson didn’t warping wail the shadow creature at first
Can someone calculate how much Life Ben gained/lost? Honestly a clear example why alternative win cons like commander damage are a thing.
What a nice surprise! Happy holidays everyone.
Very Happy to see a fun gifting game. Happy Holidays and New Years LRR.
42:27 Sure, why not? You wanna scry 2, gain 3 life, or exile another creature you control and have it return on next endstep?
Merry Christmas Crew!
I love how they're talking like Yogen Fruz is dead, they are still alive in just about every mall i go to. And they are still pretty busy.
My favorite part of Kathleen playing Missy is that Doctors Hate Her
Easily one of the best EDSC episodes yet!
"Thank you Carl Orff" - I had no idea Nelson had those music educator jokes!! I thought his only personality trait was Trading Post.
You know what Nelson, I’m happy you like what you like. Be you and have fun
Great game and gifts all around
In the first Swedish translation of Bilbo ("Hompen eller En resa dit och tillbaksigen") from 1947 (First Tolkien translation really), Bilbo was not named Bilbo but rather Bimbo , this was thankfully reverted in later translations. But we could be saying Bimbo Baggins all the time, imagine
The fact almost no one is talking about 1 of the 2 LRR Brain Cells went for 3 people to do “M’Davros” cap tipping is so underrated!
The command tower that Nelson stole from wheeler cannot produce mana in his colorless eldrazi deck. As such he didn't actually have 10 mana when he took out wheeler at the end.
Matt with the attempted correction right at the end there but no, Graham was right; 25 decks released, they're playing with four but Bens doesn't count because he's special - leaving 22 other decks to choose from ;)
Merry chrimbo all :)
G: That was me correcting myself, but I interpreted myself differently 😅
@@LRRMTG Been there! 😂
I mean, if we're on that train, there's also cute to brute to draw from
Nice,happy holidays fellow gamers
Yes yes yes good episode!
Ben, if you don't know if I want to rent your prophecy services, I don't want your prophecy services. ;)
Something something EDSC, Something something Christmas ... engagement !
Wheeler should have read Frogurt all the way to the end. He draws a card when his attack trigger happens if you have been tempted twice or more times. 2023 magic cards, I know.
Very respectful of Wheeler not making the Ho ho ho's joke...😂
Nah, nah, Nelson is absolutely correct. I started in BFZ and wasn't playing limited but damn if those preconstructed decks went hard. My favorite sets, along with original Ixalan.
I also love the hobbit precon! Wish Wheeler would play an upgraded version!
“That’s just a McFlurry!”
“No, but they do it by hand, like-“
My brain: “ah, *artisinal* McFlurry”
Oath of the Gatewatch representation!!!! ❤❤❤
1:23:05 "He's got the Un-Goats" Graham, it's pronounced "ungulates".
Just throwing this in but I happen to work at a movie theater in kingston ON, Yogenfruz is still here and it is EXTREMELY popular still. Just saying.... if anyone is in the area and wants some. Come find it 😂
Merry christmas!
LRR made a whole video about how Graham is such a gatekeeper!
okay the knick-knack paddywack joke got me.
I loved Wheeler restraining himself from doing a Peter Griffin joke 😂
Ben Ulmer with the sneaky Menzingers shirt, I see u
27 Decks total if you include the From Cute to Brute deck
Wheeler’s outfit looks great, wow
I hope you find your prince Ben!
I generally don't watch casual commander content, but I can't turn down the duo of Wheeler and Nelly
Benjamin should have had a spiderdeck he played like a Black Widow XD
Vengeance is made from shattered dreams
Nelson is right and he should say it!
"Only Titania looked cool"
WHAT DA- NO! Brother's War literaly has Urza planeswalker, THE URZA PLANESWALKER, WITH A BADASS ART TO BOOT.