Love the mission of the TPI. This is a perfect example of the importance of connection we need to remember between our body maintenance and swing maintenance
I've been wondering about this for years. Why haven't more tour players been measured when they're swinging well, because sooner or later they'll hit a slump and might search the rest of their career for the answer(Jordan!!!). Amazing that a grip change could put Charlie immediately back on track. Well done.
Feel like I'm watching myself. Did a TPI recently, my hips aren't moving like they used to and my grip has gotten a lot weaker over the years to avoid the lefts. Recently got my hips working again, was able to strengthen my grip and my irons are back to where they should be. Contact is less wipey, dropped some spin (good thing in my case) and got my yardage back. Love these videos.
I LOVE data and the simplicity it can bring to understanding what the body is doing especially at the subconscious level. You boys nailed it again... and like usual :)
Outstanding information and evaluation. You made a great point, we should spend time looking at are swings Has a reference point to compare to when things go wrong. Great job Greg.
I love this video. Should you still be bowing your wrist down even with a closed Club face? I wish TPI would respond with a video explaining this. I have always struggled with a closed club face at the top. Thank you so much.
IMO bowing the wrist by itself is not necessarily good or bad. It’s what you do with it that counts. Do you sway rather than rotate? Sequencing and timing also come into play to get the face square at impact. I’m almost 70 and resurrecting my swing after working on getting my body into better condition. So I’m experimenting with all manner of things and bowed wrist at the top was one that fixed my swing based on limitations. But now that I’m better able to rotate in the finish I find I don’t need the bow and have gone to a much more neutral wrist at the top. The result has been much better consistency. I have the speed and distance I’ve been seeking for years so now consistency is king and I’m trying to eliminate as many variables as possible.
Judging by his stats in 2023 vs 2024, his tee to green stats are better than 2024, but had a better 2024 mainly due to better putting, which was horrible in 2023. If he tried to change his grip and along with other instruction in this video, it might be taking awhile to work.
a 1.6? That's awesome. A good place to start would be connecting with someone who can physically screen you and build a coaching or training program based on your findings www.mytpi.com/experts
Problem is, so many coaches talk about "holding the blade square", "forward shaft lean", "compression" etc. and pros go along with this twaddle, causing their back pain (Zalatoris). Worse still, they teach middle aged, unfit club golfers the same stuff. Plus, pros all want to hit the ball further with their irons. If you want to hit your 7 iron like a 5 iron, just hit a 5 iron, stop these contortions to change a 7 into a 5. Just release the club.
I had 2 back surgeries, and after them there is no way I could get the shaft lean that some teachers are telling all theie students to do. It puts so much strain on the lower back.
@@A-FrameWedge Yes, I avoided surgery when I had serious disc problems 40 years ago but I was put in a steel corset for 6 months losing all flexibility. I understand the problem. You probably can get some shaft lean by playing the ball further back or swaying forward but this is not ideal. Just have to play with it and sweep the ball away. Power is lost and the ball goes high. If you have lessons make sure your coach knows what you can and can't do. Take care.
@@OldProGolf I had 2 lumbar fusion surgeries, because of a fractured vertebrae, was able to play for about 5 years after surgery, but the last 2 years I could barely break 80, was a +1 to 2 before the surgery. I tried everything to get a little shaft lean at impact, but it was too painful, tried playing it back in stance but hit low hooks.
@@A-FrameWedge Yes, I think that I can understand. Can I help? Happy to have a look if I can see a swing video somewhere. I have some possible answers but first I would need to see the problem. I guess spine tilt is difficult for you, shaft lean is only possible with reasonable spine tilt. Also, if your shoulders cannot turn in an upright plane (lead shoulder raised at impact, not just going back), that is very difficult for a good player. Of course, shaft lean is not vital as long as your hands are not too far behind the club (Tom Kim, Louis Oosthuizen). I find this very interesting as I have learnt so much in recent years but cannot play at all now to use that knowledge on myself. I just enjoy watching others play, analysing their swings and faults.
@@OldProGolf Thanks for the offer but haven't been able to swing a club since 2011, I do have some swings on YT after my surgeries, channel name Cary Spado, You can see on some of those videos my back is much more stiff than others especially in the later video's, I know I stood too far from the ball causing to yank the club inside on the backswing, but for some reason, if I stood closer, I felt more strain on my back at impact, seems like it should be the other way around that being farther away would cause more pain.
Love Charlie H.!! Always screen and track progress! 👍
Love the mission of the TPI. This is a perfect example of the importance of connection we need to remember between our body maintenance and swing maintenance
Really enjoy this content and appreciate your team making this available for everyone. Thanks
I've been wondering about this for years. Why haven't more tour players been measured when they're swinging well, because sooner or later they'll hit a slump and might search the rest of their career for the answer(Jordan!!!). Amazing that a grip change could put Charlie immediately back on track. Well done.
Feel like I'm watching myself. Did a TPI recently, my hips aren't moving like they used to and my grip has gotten a lot weaker over the years to avoid the lefts. Recently got my hips working again, was able to strengthen my grip and my irons are back to where they should be. Contact is less wipey, dropped some spin (good thing in my case) and got my yardage back. Love these videos.
I LOVE data and the simplicity it can bring to understanding what the body is doing especially at the subconscious level. You boys nailed it again... and like usual :)
EXACTLY. People often see tech/data and think it's confusing for the player, but it's not for the player, it's for the team.
Outstanding information and evaluation. You made a great point, we should spend time looking at are swings Has a reference point to compare to when things go wrong. Great job Greg.
Phenomenal video! Amazing insights into how the body reacts to the club face and ball flight and how data can help determine this.
What is that pad plate thing Charley is using to feel his right hand?
Awesome thank you 🙏
Great video. Bummed Charlie didn’t win.
I love this video. Should you still be bowing your wrist down even with a closed Club face? I wish TPI would respond with a video explaining this. I have always struggled with a closed club face at the top. Thank you so much.
You can be as flexed as you want at the top, just all about a coorelation of a path and follow through rotation of the face
Do not bow your wrist unless you want to subject yourself to possible injury. Bowing the wrist is a very weak anatomical position!
Only if you want to hook it off the planet like I’ve been doing the past year
IMO bowing the wrist by itself is not necessarily good or bad. It’s what you do with it that counts. Do you sway rather than rotate? Sequencing and timing also come into play to get the face square at impact. I’m almost 70 and resurrecting my swing after working on getting my body into better condition. So I’m experimenting with all manner of things and bowed wrist at the top was one that fixed my swing based on limitations. But now that I’m better able to rotate in the finish I find I don’t need the bow and have gone to a much more neutral wrist at the top. The result has been much better consistency. I have the speed and distance I’ve been seeking for years so now consistency is king and I’m trying to eliminate as many variables as possible.
I’d like to know what Charley did to overcome his back injuries. Please and thanks. 😀
God, I love TPI.
Where can I find the right hand paddle Charley was using as a training aid?
It’s a swimmer’s paddle. Use the Google to find one.
I think the ones for swimming or bodysurfing, would work, and it might what he is using.
Super interesting.
Judging by his stats in 2023 vs 2024, his tee to green stats are better than 2024, but had a better 2024 mainly due to better putting, which was horrible in 2023. If he tried to change his grip and along with other instruction in this video, it might be taking awhile to work.
Ok sounds great for Charlie,. So how do I get this type of attention with yoir team. How many millions do I need. I'm a 1.6 handicap and need help.
a 1.6? That's awesome. A good place to start would be connecting with someone who can physically screen you and build a coaching or training program based on your findings www.mytpi.com/experts
You’re not a tour pro. Why then do you have a sense of entitlement that you should be treated like a tour pro?
Dude looks like he could be related to Mark McQwire !!
Charlie still pounds it off the tee. Maybe better than ever!
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Problem is, so many coaches talk about "holding the blade square", "forward shaft lean", "compression" etc. and pros go along with this twaddle, causing their back pain (Zalatoris). Worse still, they teach middle aged, unfit club golfers the same stuff. Plus, pros all want to hit the ball further with their irons. If you want to hit your 7 iron like a 5 iron, just hit a 5 iron, stop these contortions to change a 7 into a 5.
Just release the club.
I had 2 back surgeries, and after them there is no way I could get the shaft lean that some teachers are telling all theie students to do. It puts so much strain on the lower back.
@@A-FrameWedge Yes, I avoided surgery when I had serious disc problems 40 years ago but I was put in a steel corset for 6 months losing all flexibility. I understand the problem.
You probably can get some shaft lean by playing the ball further back or swaying forward but this is not ideal.
Just have to play with it and sweep the ball away. Power is lost and the ball goes high. If you have lessons make sure your coach knows what you can and can't do. Take care.
@@OldProGolf I had 2 lumbar fusion surgeries, because of a fractured vertebrae, was able to play for about 5 years after surgery, but the last 2 years I could barely break 80, was a +1 to 2 before the surgery. I tried everything to get a little shaft lean at impact, but it was too painful, tried playing it back in stance but hit low hooks.
@@A-FrameWedge Yes, I think that I can understand. Can I help? Happy to have a look if I can see a swing video somewhere. I have some possible answers but first I would need to see the problem. I guess spine tilt is difficult for you, shaft lean is only possible with reasonable spine tilt. Also, if your shoulders cannot turn in an upright plane (lead shoulder raised at impact, not just going back), that is very difficult for a good player. Of course, shaft lean is not vital as long as your hands are not too far behind the club (Tom Kim, Louis Oosthuizen).
I find this very interesting as I have learnt so much in recent years but cannot play at all now to use that knowledge on myself. I just enjoy watching others play, analysing their swings and faults.
@@OldProGolf Thanks for the offer but haven't been able to swing a club since 2011, I do have some swings on YT after my surgeries, channel name Cary Spado, You can see on some of those videos my back is much more stiff than others especially in the later video's, I know I stood too far from the ball causing to yank the club inside on the backswing, but for some reason, if I stood closer, I felt more strain on my back at impact, seems like it should be the other way around that being farther away would cause more pain.
Must be nice
Charlie, now grow the mullet back and youre good! Lol