The Japanese look like a proper westernized professional army. The Qing are pretty much unchanged from the opium wars with the exception being their navy.
@Sam Hopkins that is because the Qing still relies on the traditional warfare of their ancestors such as horse archery and outdated armies such as the Chinese Banner Armies. Moreover, the corruption of the royal family run deeps within the Qing military and this is due to the influence of Dowager Empress Cixi herself. As a result, the Chinese military is mired with bad weapon quality such as shells. In response to @Lol Box, due to the corruption, most, if not, many and all of the navy shells used by the Qing navy were pretty faulty, bad and malfunctioned. Evidence had found that many of the Qing navy shells are only infused with clay or earth instead of proper explosive charges. The Japanese military were westernized and modernized thanks hugely due to the efforts of the Emperor Meiji and his ministers, whereas the Qing Army was still deep in technology stagnation, corruption, and mismanagement of funds.
2:23 The Qing commander defending Pyongyang was a Chinese Muslim named Zuo Baogui. He fought the Japanese to the last while his superior fled towards the Yalu River. His heroic death was memorialized by the Japanese in the Meiji era paintings depicting the battle.
@@잠수-b2m 병x임 ? 대한제국의 뭐가 잘났다고 그리 잘난듯 떠들고 다님 ? 역사? 전통성? 변화? 번영? 땅크기? 군대? 명성황후? 고종? 아관파천? 을사조약? 강화도조약? 부산항 강제 개방? 대체 뭐가 잘나서 이딴 역사를 그리 떠벌리고 다니는 거임? 걍 아는척이 하고싶은거임 ? 서양의 동양사에서는 흥선대원군의 쇄국정책을 끝으로 조선의 명맥은 끊겼다고 봄 그 이후부터 일제에게 침탈 당하기 전까지는 청에대한 대한은 속국이었다고 해석함. 애초에 이건 우리나라에서도 인정을 했잖냐 "독립문"이 어떤 의미에서 언제 어떻게 건설된지 모르는거냐 ? 일제의 만행에 대한인의 기여도. 청일전쟁 대한인 기여도 30% 대한 치안유지 대한인 기여도 80% 대만 정벌 대한인 기여도 40% 버마국 설립운동 대한인 기여도 20% 태평양 전쟁 대한인 기여도 66% -카미카제 대한인 기여도 30% 전범재판에 대한국 일본제국의 꼬봉으로 수록되어있으니까 꼬우면 찾아보고 좀 알아보고 공부하고 글을 쳐 쓰던가 해라 역사를 잊으란 말이 아니다. 잘난듯 말하지 말라고 ㅈㄴ 굴욕적인 역사니까 우선 당시 한반도의 전 주도권은 청나라에게 있었고, 지금 니가 말하는거랑 중국이 "김치 우리꺼였어" 라고 하는거랑 머가 다르냐 ?
The Japanese army and navy were far better equipped and trained than their Chinese counterparts. China lost, because they were using some outdated equipment and they were somewhat poorly trained. P.S, I wasn't expecting this many comments and likes.
Because Chinese still didn't know about strategy of war First of all they still using an Old Tactics Like using a Sword as main equipment not using the gun. Second, They still using old gun Third, They don't have a Military equipment with full sets from Helmet, Uniforms, Boots, a gear for placing the ammunition and grenade Fourth, They Navy was a suck as hell many Chinese dreadnought is sinking for nothing. Japanese Navy is Strong
Dowager is not responsible for the army decline but the next in line,forgot the name, he directed all the funds for the army for two reasons. 1 Japan to their eyes was insignificant and posed no threat 2. There were a lot of natural disasters occuring by that time and he needed a lot of money to fix them
Also their army ain't united like the Japanese, their armies were divided into a few groups leaded by warlords. Also some of their soldiers aren't properly equipped (using swords, and other melee weapon than rifles)
Qing: I am continuously getting beaten up by western powers and we lack behind modern technology because of the incompetent Manchu dynasty, luckily I am not getting beaten up by any asian country. Japan: Hi.
Basically, the main enemy of Qing dinasty during the conflict with Japan is corruption. When beiyang fleet was made it was considered one of the largest fleets in the world with most modern ships from the west. However after years this fleet became really weak, because of poor maintenance, poor training of the crews and sailors, officers were only chosen due to their relation with inner circle of royalty, and many parts and arsenals of the ships were sold out by the corrupt officers while they changed them with lower grade or even fake parts. Even the ships themselves were obsolete and no changing with more modern ones. When the warring time came they were even no match for the Japanese fleet who actually was smaller in term of capacity but with professional officers and highly trained sailors
The Qing went for 東道西技(Eastern system and Western Tech) and basically swayed away from reforming the inherent corruption and obsolesce of their system itself. Funny how this same thing happened to the victor Japan later in the late 20’s and henceforth the pacific war.
completely same with southeast asian dynastys. back in the day this nations was so rich in resources including gold and more precious stone but dint last long due to greedyness leading to corruption into the collpase of its own empire like a candle lighting its brightdays til its last self.
@@didiprangsak1757 Why war now? Imperial age has ended. Peaceful co-exist and zoning are important factors for happiness of human being. Reducing population and growing out of material civilization are keywords in 21st century. Hating other race for historical issues a few generations ago is unproductive for our future.
The sea battel scene of the Japanese side is from the NHK history drama "Cloud above the Hill (Saka no Ue no Kumo) " and this is the "Battle of Tsushima" where Japanese Imperial Navy completely destroyed Russian Navy on May 27-28 1905. This is not Sino-Japan war, but Japan-Rusia war. 11 years later.
there was no Japan-Russian war but Sino-Russian war. Japan, officially invited by Tsing government to dispatch their force (both army and navy) to help china. that is why the so-called Japan- Russian war took place in China (Tsing territory). chinese government, however, changed their mind after the victory against Russia while Japanese army sacrificed more the 100 thousands soldiers to protect china. this, is the very original start that Japan-Sino war come from. Japan has the proper and adequate right to claim what chinese government promised and which are earned by their life.
Han Chinese: I'm going to update my warships to fight Japanese. Dowager: OK, but before that you should build a beautiful garden for my birthday. (Japanese defeated Qing) Han Chinese: Now you're terminated.
I think you are quite familar with this history. Yes, traditionally, it was considered that the loss of the war on the Chinese side was because the Dowager's garden, partially. But, this is a pure "story". It is not true.
The rise of Japan to a world power during the past 80 years is the greatest miracle in world history. The mighty empires of antiquity, the major political institutions of the Middle Ages and the early modern era, the Spanish Empire, the British Empire, all needed centuries to achieve their full strength. Japan's rise has been meteoric. After only 80 years, it is one of the few great powers that determine the fate of the world.
I personally think spanish empire took 300 years and it spreaded language and religión very efficiently. The english empire didnt spreaded his culture so efficiently but the metropoli made a good profit of it (the anglo culture was better spreaded through television times) and certain countries develop their civilization thanks(*) to it. Japanese just conquered land fast, and loose it fast. Leaving just corpses behind. Thats not what I would call success.
It’s crazy how they had the technology back then to record that battle. The person recording was even able to get close up shots in the middle of battle!!
In 1894, Japanese Infantry were armed with 8mm Murata magazine ( tube) rifles, whilst the Qing were armed with M71 Mauser Single shot Rifles in 11mm Black powder cartridge. Recent dives on a Qing Warship off ROK shows spent 11mm shells on the deck. The Artillery of Japan was mostly British design, whilst the Qing had Krupp guns, but Black Powder, as well as 18th century Muzzle loading Cannon. The whole 1894-95 war was a Turkey Shoot both on land and at sea. And learning from this, they Japanese improved their Rifles and Machineguns In 1897, whilst the Qing only set up a gun factory at Hanyang in 1895...by a forward thinking and independant Mandarin... The rest is history...
To be fair those ships even the japanese must have been bought from the british. If not you would see more than thousands of junks with peasants in them
It kinda fits the situation of Qing china though, some modern tecnnology while still maintaining a outdated military doctrine. Its like using horse archers when the world already has line infantry musketeers(it happened in china by the way, in the 18th century if i am not wrong, machu hunters were already using guns to hunt but the emperor forced then to go back to bows)
@@traceytraced and so? that rages us not toward the enemy- skillfull, brave and with the sense of honor-but to russian tzarist government, warmongering, corrupted (see: Bezobrazov clique) and incompetent, paying hundreds of thousands of russian lives to ensure their personal business interests. It brings some interesting parallels also.
I don't know how true this is but when the Qing were arming some of the Imperial Army with Mausers, I've read accounts from the German instructors claiming that the Chinese troops invariably set their rifle-sights to maximum range. This was apparently done in the belief that it made for the most powerful shots the rifle was capable of. Explaining that shifting the sights actually moved the point of aim rather than increased or decreased the power behind each shot was simply disbelieved by the Chinese. Now, this might be pure racist contempt on the part of the Prussians, yet the gross disparity in casualty figures during the Boxer Rebellion a few years later could be partially explained by this factor - if true.
kinda odd, so they pretty much were like Instructor: so you can set your sights to different distances so it's easier to shoot in said distances. Chinese soldier: Got it, The farther I set my sights, the more damage my gun causes. Instructor: no not like tha Chinese soldier: Well I'm off to fight! cya!
Im not very knowledgeable with chinese history but one of the great cause of their loss was the Empress Xu has wasted almost all military budgets for her own luxury goods. So they were out of military budget. 2ndly, the weapons n ships they equipped were fine but they were sticking with the old tactics. So to get it straight into conclusion, Qing was ass kicked by Japan in 1895 April n made a Treaty of Shimonoseki.
Japan and Qing sent troops to suppress the rebellion of Korea. But both of the forces remained in Korea, and which one got Korea developed into the Sino-Japanese War. Qing was worried that "I can not lose like a small Japanese." And it was defeated
There is a 'minor' difference though. The Сhinese troops were actually invited by the Korean gov while the Japanese were not. Japan was just looking for a trouble as per usual.
I've been a history nerd since I was 8 (Bronze Age, WW1, WW2 being my faves) but I can see where some of the inspiration for some of the uniforms in anime like Seraph of the End came from. Lime green stripes, blue uniform, white gloves, the hats, etc. Ha. Makes sense now.
@@il1680 imagine being such a weeaboo that you support the army that massacred your people and committed such atrocities, your Guerrilla warrior ancestors must be turning in their graves.
Battle ships like Mikasa appeared at the time of Russo-Japanese war, So this video is not correct. Rather, Japanese fleet were smaller than Sino fleet, and looked like weaker than Sino fleet. Japanese fleet were able to excuted whole Sino fleet by the tactic that all ships united to the same high speed.
This video is made by clips combined from many war videos, not just the ones that portraying Sino-Japanese War 1894. Some of them are taken from Russo-Japanese War movie and even the Last Samurai.
Thank you for the correction. The Japanese navy really had no battleships like the 2 german built battleships China had. The Japanese were very worried and the rest of the world all expected them to lose. But to their surprise, the Chinese navy lost because of sheer incompetence and corruption.
@@markanthonymianacyberworld420 haha kala ko sa meiji la kampi eh. Grabe kasi yung meiji restoration talagang nag westernize and modernize ang japan kaya lumakas.
Philosophically, a Chinese against a Japanese is like a giant spider against an army ant: one on one, the ant will probably lose. But a nest full of giant spiders vs a colony of army ants will have a very different outcome: the ants will tear all of the spiders to pieces. The evidence of this is shown in the Sino -Japanese War.
AlphaChocolateTruffle Qing China had the upper hand at beginning in terms of navy power but then the corruption court of the Manchu rulers ruined it all basically. The Qing army was a mess compared to Japanese western style army but they did fought very bravely most of the time. Truth is at that time Japan is a far more advanced and powerful nation than Qing China.
I have no doubt that the Qing Chinese army fought bravely, despite their problems, they weren't cowards. Alas, they were let down big time by their political and military leaders which is often why nations lose wars.
@@gangwu4541 yes. Qing have more warships at the start of the war. Their officers are well educated in naval warfare and able to speak english, japanese, german etc. But their sailor are completely mess. Lack of training in naval battle, lack of discipline, and lack of supply & ammunition. While on the other hand, japan only have handful of warships but their officers are educated and the sailors also trained in sea warfare.
Would it make that much of a difference had the Qing won the 1894 Sino-Japanese war? I haven’t seen a lot of alternate history video about this yet. The spendings on the temples and palaces instead of on the military did do something bad.
seems made from at least 4 different movies. the ones i recognize are 55 days at pekin, the sino japanese war at sea and the meji emperor and the russian war
0:43 Oh yeah that is not Chinese that crouching shooting at Japan. It was a boxer rebellion film named "55 Days At Peking" sometimes it gets so wrong if you make it
There needs to be a disclaimer in this video since it compiles a lot of videos from film and drama that has nothing to do with the First Sino Japanese War.
A war is invariably determined by the possession of a sophisticated system, encompassing the political environment, financial support, and the ethical values of the populace, rather than being solely reliant on military equipment and weapons. During the Qing era, however, there were no winning elements in this particular instance. Hongzhang Li was acutely aware of this reality, prompting him to eschew military conflict with Japan and instead opt for diplomatic resolution. Nevertheless, he placed excessive reliance on Russia, demonstrating a misjudgment of the situation. His overemphasis on personal relationships as a deciding factor also reflects a significant weakness in Chinese culture, a flaw that can still be observed in contemporary China.
Watching the Qing on battleships is weird. It's like looking at people wearing clothing not out of place in 1700, in a ship that wouldn't look out of place in WW2.
This is the Japanese-Qing War. If this war defined as the Sino-Japanese War. Then this should be the Third Sino-Japanese War. The first occurred in 663 AD and the second occurred in 1592 AD.
Ironically enough, the Sino-Japanese War in 1592 helped to weaken the Ming dynasty that ruled China at the time so it seems that the Japanese had a hand in weakening TWO ruling dynasties in China throughout history.
news bad It was Korea, China under the Ming dynasty help the Korean against Japanese invasion ordered by Toyotomi. 663AD, Korea was unified but rebellions occurred and Japan help them by 27000 troop and sending back a royal hostage to become a puppet ruler. Japan failed.
Rebellion korean supported by japanese 27000?? Do you write a fiction?? 1592-1597 the war korea-japanese war! The war begun from japanese invasion but any rebellion in Korean didnt exist because Choseon(dynasty Korea) was too cenralized by king’s power. As korean, plz study more pricisely
Japanese people's ancestors were very brave & smart, they could not only fight Qing, but also Russia & British empire. However, now they are nothing but another colony of USA.
While Japan was flourishing India was doing the opposite. I wish Aurangzeb had never applied those rules which disunited India and if the British never ruled then India would have been an amazing country like Japan
Japan did not officially annex Korea until 1910. However, as a result of the Russo-Japanese war, Japan began the process of colonizing Korea in 1905. As for the first Sino-Japanese war, Japan and Qing Dynasty agreed that Korea should be an “independent” country, but in reality, Japan just wanted to increase their influence over the Korean Peninsula, by kicking the Chinese out... Nevertheless, it is certain that this war and the following war marked the beginning of Imperial Japan’s oppression towards the East Asian nations.
Japan did not occupy any nations but expelled Westen Imperialism from East Asian countries, making them independent from the colonization. Which country did Japan colonize?
@@kennabi5320 Let me name a few: Korea, parts of China, Manchuria, Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Burma, Philippines, Taiwan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, etc...
the japanese fleet commander got a better tactics and strategies to fight at the sea, they must studied a lots in regard of sea battle -------- british vs french in late 1600s, admiral ----Nelson was the hero, japanese naval officials spent tons of time, years to studied nelson's attack theory. they earned the victory.
China naturally had good performance against Japan in hand to hand warfare pre-modern. it was only when Japan modernized their military that China started losing badly. In the Tang and Ming dynasty wars against Japan, their expeditionary forces shocked the Japanese because they always believed the Chinese troops to be inexperienced compared to their samurai veterans. Partly also because China can generally have stronger heavier infantry/cavalry. Ancient China was used to going toe-to-toe with equal sized countries so Japanese invasions were minor to them.
Would you mind enlighten me how aggression towards other countries can protect your own? What would make Japan disappear by not attacking others? I'm curious🤔
The Japanese look like a proper westernized professional army. The Qing are pretty much unchanged from the opium wars with the exception being their navy.
Their Navy was actually pretty good tho just that there ammunition was poor quality
@Sam Hopkins that is because the Qing still relies on the traditional warfare of their ancestors such as horse archery and outdated armies such as the Chinese Banner Armies.
Moreover, the corruption of the royal family run deeps within the Qing military and this is due to the influence of Dowager Empress Cixi herself.
As a result, the Chinese military is mired with bad weapon quality such as shells. In response to @Lol Box, due to the corruption, most, if not, many and all of the navy shells used by the Qing navy were pretty faulty, bad and malfunctioned.
Evidence had found that many of the Qing navy shells are only infused with clay or earth instead of proper explosive charges.
The Japanese military were westernized and modernized thanks hugely due to the efforts of the Emperor Meiji and his ministers, whereas the Qing Army was still deep in technology stagnation, corruption, and mismanagement of funds.
@@lolbox206 plastic shells
The Japanese army and navy were heavily trained by the English.
@@lolbox206 Exactly many foreign observers actually expected the Beiyang Fleet to dominate the seas.
2:23 The Qing commander defending Pyongyang was a Chinese Muslim named Zuo Baogui. He fought the Japanese to the last while his superior fled towards the Yalu River. His heroic death was memorialized by the Japanese in the Meiji era paintings depicting the battle.
평양은 당시 청나라의 땅이 아닌 엄연한 대한제국의 땅이었습니다.
Certainly interesting Muslim commanders usually play a small yet important part in pre and World War history though all this killing worth nothing
@@잠수-b2m yes，Qing dynasty
@@잠수-b2m but Qing dynasty and Kingdom of Jeoson has fight against western influence and Japanese aggressions....
@@잠수-b2m 병x임 ?
대한제국의 뭐가 잘났다고 그리 잘난듯 떠들고 다님 ?
역사? 전통성? 변화? 번영? 땅크기? 군대? 명성황후? 고종? 아관파천? 을사조약? 강화도조약? 부산항 강제 개방?
대체 뭐가 잘나서 이딴 역사를 그리 떠벌리고 다니는 거임?
걍 아는척이 하고싶은거임 ?
서양의 동양사에서는 흥선대원군의 쇄국정책을 끝으로 조선의 명맥은 끊겼다고 봄
그 이후부터 일제에게 침탈 당하기 전까지는 청에대한 대한은 속국이었다고 해석함.
애초에 이건 우리나라에서도 인정을 했잖냐 "독립문"이 어떤 의미에서 언제 어떻게 건설된지 모르는거냐 ?
일제의 만행에 대한인의 기여도.
청일전쟁 대한인 기여도 30%
대한 치안유지 대한인 기여도 80%
대만 정벌 대한인 기여도 40%
버마국 설립운동 대한인 기여도 20%
태평양 전쟁 대한인 기여도 66%
-카미카제 대한인 기여도 30%
전범재판에 대한국 일본제국의 꼬봉으로 수록되어있으니까 꼬우면 찾아보고 좀 알아보고 공부하고 글을 쳐 쓰던가 해라
역사를 잊으란 말이 아니다. 잘난듯 말하지 말라고 ㅈㄴ 굴욕적인 역사니까
우선 당시 한반도의 전 주도권은 청나라에게 있었고, 지금 니가 말하는거랑 중국이 "김치 우리꺼였어" 라고 하는거랑 머가 다르냐 ?
The Japanese army and navy were far better equipped and trained than their Chinese counterparts. China lost, because they were using some outdated equipment and they were somewhat poorly trained.
P.S, I wasn't expecting this many comments and likes.
@B. BoB. That offends me ):
Because Chinese still didn't know about strategy of war
First of all they still using an Old Tactics
Like using a Sword as main equipment not using the gun.
Second, They still using old gun
Third, They don't have a Military equipment with full sets from Helmet, Uniforms, Boots, a gear for placing the ammunition and grenade
Fourth, They Navy was a suck as hell many Chinese dreadnought is sinking for nothing. Japanese Navy is Strong
Dowager is not responsible for the army decline but the next in line,forgot the name, he directed all the funds for the army for two reasons.
1 Japan to their eyes was insignificant and posed no threat
2. There were a lot of natural disasters occuring by that time and he needed a lot of money to fix them
Also their army ain't united like the Japanese, their armies were divided into a few groups leaded by warlords.
Also some of their soldiers aren't properly equipped (using swords, and other melee weapon than rifles)
Later ipman defeated the Japanese army and saved China
Qing: I am continuously getting beaten up by western powers and we lack behind modern technology because of the incompetent Manchu dynasty, luckily I am not getting beaten up by any asian country.
Japan: Hi.
Also Japan: Here's my well trained soldiers and my modern technology thanks to Western Powers.
Lol
China communist party make china great again. The west getting worry now
Also china: Send battleship to a japanese port trying to scare the japanese.
Japan response:
@@user-sx5ze8oq3k Japan: Haha battleship go BOOM
Basically, the main enemy of Qing dinasty during the conflict with Japan is corruption. When beiyang fleet was made it was considered one of the largest fleets in the world with most modern ships from the west. However after years this fleet became really weak, because of poor maintenance, poor training of the crews and sailors, officers were only chosen due to their relation with inner circle of royalty, and many parts and arsenals of the ships were sold out by the corrupt officers while they changed them with lower grade or even fake parts. Even the ships themselves were obsolete and no changing with more modern ones. When the warring time came they were even no match for the Japanese fleet who actually was smaller in term of capacity but with professional officers and highly trained sailors
Your comment is better than most others in this entire section yet has no replies. How odd.
The Qing went for 東道西技(Eastern system and Western Tech) and basically swayed away from reforming the inherent corruption and obsolesce of their system itself. Funny how this same thing happened to the victor Japan later in the late 20’s and henceforth the pacific war.
Ngomong opo lek
Qing Dynasty just a Paper Tiger . They can't beat Vietnamese while Qing Dynasty in golden era
completely same with southeast asian dynastys. back in the day this nations was so rich in resources including gold and more precious stone but dint last long due to greedyness leading to corruption into the collpase of its own empire like a candle lighting its brightdays til its last self.
Qing had far larger army than that of Japan. But they lost.
well qing is piece of qing corrupt
Quantity matters to some extent
Modern tech evens out the numbers quite a bit
姓名 yeah but If the war continues till today... you'll know who wins
@@didiprangsak1757 Why war now? Imperial age has ended. Peaceful co-exist and zoning are important factors for happiness of human being.
Reducing population and growing out of material civilization are keywords in 21st century.
Hating other race for historical issues a few generations ago is unproductive for our future.
この時の兵士の服装や装備は豪華だね
日本軍は黒い集団なのである。
このあたりが一番ロマンあふれてるね
@프로관종러
Where r u from?
West Japan = Korea?
日露戦争までは、日本の軍服スッとスタイリッシュでカッコいいけど、
太平洋戦争の時のはデザイン自体、ダサく思える
経済逼迫で軍服の生地や仕立ての質がどんどん落ちていったせいもあるんだろうけど
@@deadby15 それは関係ないです。軍装の変化については戦争形態の時代の変化はもちろん、参考にしていた国が陸軍ではイギリス→ドイツになったこと、大礼服と軍装が明確に分かれたことにより軍装は装飾性をおさえて実戦向きの色になっただけです。現代では軍装からさらに分かれて戦闘服があるわけですが当時は軍装で戦っていましたので。
と参考になるか分かりませんがマジレスしてみました(笑)
The sea battel scene of the Japanese side is from the NHK history drama "Cloud above the Hill (Saka no Ue no Kumo) " and this is the "Battle of Tsushima" where Japanese Imperial Navy completely destroyed Russian Navy on May 27-28 1905. This is not Sino-Japan war, but Japan-Rusia war. 11 years later.
その通り、｢海戦｣の場面は｢坂の上の雲(日露戦争)｣ですね これを捏造と言います
日本は日清戦争、日露戦争、第一次世界大戦と十年ごとに戦争をしてきた。
1:21は、ラストサムライの一斉射撃シーン
4:19は、るろうに剣心の実写映画のワンシーンですね。これは戦争とは全く関係がないです。
陸戦シーンの日本軍は映画「二百三高地」のが混じってますね。
これも日露戦争です😅
there was no Japan-Russian war but Sino-Russian war.
Japan, officially invited by Tsing government to dispatch their force (both army and navy) to help china.
that is why the so-called Japan- Russian war took place in China (Tsing territory).
chinese government, however, changed their mind after the victory against Russia while Japanese army sacrificed more the 100 thousands soldiers to protect china.
this, is the very original start that Japan-Sino war come from.
Japan has the proper and adequate right to claim what chinese government promised and which are earned by their life.
Han Chinese: I'm going to update my warships to fight Japanese.
Dowager: OK, but before that you should build a beautiful garden for my birthday.
(Japanese defeated Qing)
Han Chinese: Now you're terminated.
KMT for the win, down with the qing!
I think you are quite familar with this history. Yes, traditionally, it was considered that the loss of the war on the Chinese side was because the Dowager's garden, partially. But, this is a pure "story". It is not true.
Not Han Chinese, Qing were Manchurians
@@presidentjiang6762 but the Manchus have been a minority from ancient times to the present day in China.
@@presidentjiang6762 So the manchus simply ruled all the Han people at that time in their dynasty.
Those Pre-dreads look absolutely amazing.
The rise of Japan to a world power during the past 80 years is the greatest miracle in world history. The mighty empires of antiquity, the major political institutions of the Middle Ages and the early modern era, the Spanish Empire, the British Empire, all needed centuries to achieve their full strength. Japan's rise has been meteoric. After only 80 years, it is one of the few great powers that determine the fate of the world.
I just literally read your comments like 30 minutes ago on the same video about "japan and the west rise of an empire"
そして、現在流星の様に急速落下しています。
I personally think spanish empire took 300 years and it spreaded language and religión very efficiently.
The english empire didnt spreaded his culture so efficiently but the metropoli made a good profit of it (the anglo culture was better spreaded through television times) and certain countries develop their civilization thanks(*) to it.
Japanese just conquered land fast, and loose it fast. Leaving just corpses behind. Thats not what I would call success.
Japan just rose too late and didn't left much on lands it conquered unlike Europeans
@@魔王-t7v反日日本人botやん。そんなもん東アジア全体やんけ
Thanks for uploading this history
It’s crazy how they had the technology back then to record that battle. The person recording was even able to get close up shots in the middle of battle!!
yes!
But, oh wait-
He even survived multiple battles
@@mustard4762 Battles not battled
@@RandomVidsforthought Thanks
In 1894, Japanese Infantry were armed with 8mm Murata magazine ( tube) rifles, whilst the Qing were armed with M71 Mauser Single shot Rifles in 11mm Black powder cartridge.
Recent dives on a Qing Warship off ROK shows spent 11mm shells on the deck.
The Artillery of Japan was mostly British design, whilst the Qing had Krupp guns, but Black Powder, as well as 18th century Muzzle loading Cannon.
The whole 1894-95 war was a Turkey Shoot both on land and at sea.
And learning from this, they Japanese improved their Rifles and Machineguns
In 1897, whilst the Qing only set up a gun factory at Hanyang in 1895...by a forward thinking and independant Mandarin...
The rest is history...
Fantastic!! I would love to watch this in its entirety!!
A qing admiral in steam ship looks so out of place.
Yes but it happened, not just to the extent that they wanted...
It happened
To be fair those ships even the japanese must have been bought from the british. If not you would see more than thousands of junks with peasants in them
If you search for the subject, the two flag ships of Qing Navy were 7,340- ton each and steel armed, with 4x 12inch guns and 14-inch torpedo tubes.
It kinda fits the situation of Qing china though, some modern tecnnology while still maintaining a outdated military doctrine.
Its like using horse archers when the world already has line infantry musketeers(it happened in china by the way, in the 18th century if i am not wrong, machu hunters were already using guns to hunt but the emperor forced then to go back to bows)
As a russian i side with the japanese than the chinese! 🇷🇺❤️🇯🇵 And my salutes to the Japanese soldiers that fought the first sino japanese war!
日俄战争就好受，波罗的海舰队大遥远过去，结果还送了，有够好笑的😂
作为一名中国人，我支持纳粹德国消灭苏联
@@izksbzklSoviet Japan war, Battle on Khalkhin Gol?
Then later then went to Russia and won lol
无知的可怕，你不知道日本打败清朝后接下来揍的就是你俄罗斯吗？两支主力舰队被日本人歼灭的滋味一定很好受吧🎉
Dude you cut like at least six movies into this clip I was expecting see light sabre from start war at the end
As a Russian I side with the Japanese on this 🇷🇺❤️🤗🇯🇵
Then japan defeated Russia 5 years later in 1905
@@traceytraced and so? that rages us not toward the enemy- skillfull, brave and with the sense of honor-but to russian tzarist government, warmongering, corrupted (see: Bezobrazov clique) and incompetent, paying hundreds of thousands of russian lives to ensure their personal business interests. It brings some interesting parallels also.
Bro this is the beginning of Japanese expansion
I don't know how true this is but when the Qing were arming some of the Imperial Army with Mausers, I've read accounts from the German instructors claiming that the Chinese troops invariably set their rifle-sights to maximum range. This was apparently done in the belief that it made for the most powerful shots the rifle was capable of. Explaining that shifting the sights actually moved the point of aim rather than increased or decreased the power behind each shot was simply disbelieved by the Chinese. Now, this might be pure racist contempt on the part of the Prussians, yet the gross disparity in casualty figures during the Boxer Rebellion a few years later could be partially explained by this factor - if true.
kinda odd, so they pretty much were like
Instructor: so you can set your sights to different distances so it's easier to shoot in said distances.
Chinese soldier: Got it, The farther I set my sights, the more damage my gun causes.
Instructor: no not like tha
Chinese soldier: Well I'm off to fight! cya!
@@adankmeme651 there was likely language communication issues and this probably wasn’t for all cases if not only a certain small amount of cases
I heard that was what the ZANLA guerillas did when fighting the Rhodesian Bush War.
@@Burgermeister1836 yes and other instances in various African wars too. They thought it made the bullets "more powerful"
I think their idea was longer distance= MORE POWA!!
Me when I see the sea
Me: We’re playing battleship? WHY DID NO ONE INVITE ME
Im not very knowledgeable with chinese history but one of the great cause of their loss was the Empress Xu has wasted almost all military budgets for her own luxury goods. So they were out of military budget.
2ndly, the weapons n ships they equipped were fine but they were sticking with the old tactics.
So to get it straight into conclusion, Qing was ass kicked by Japan in 1895 April n made a Treaty of Shimonoseki.
great work thank you
Japan and Qing sent troops to suppress the rebellion of Korea. But both of the forces remained in Korea, and which one got Korea developed into the Sino-Japanese War. Qing was worried that "I can not lose like a small Japanese." And it was defeated
There is a 'minor' difference though. The Сhinese troops were actually invited by the Korean gov while the Japanese were not. Japan was just looking for a trouble as per usual.
@@catonpillowI’ve heard Korea described as “the Poland of Asia”, and I can kinda see why
Europe: Non europe country can defeat us
Japan defeat Russia
Europe:...
I've been a history nerd since I was 8 (Bronze Age, WW1, WW2 being my faves) but I can see where some of the inspiration for some of the uniforms in anime like Seraph of the End came from. Lime green stripes, blue uniform, white gloves, the hats, etc. Ha. Makes sense now.
正義は必ず勝つ!カミサマの国ですもん
japan then: Cool, Honor for the mens
japan now: Kawaiii Oniii-Chan
You mean abusing prisoners of war and burning Nanking
@@5678sothourn And great leap foward and china fermine,lol.
@@5678sothourn and the Tianamen square massacre and the invasion and occupation of Tibet
@@5678sothourn that's just war
@@hideyoshiyamamoto893 And nuke of Japan by USA. In fact criminal state Japan is the same ugly creation like Chinese Communist Party.
china and japan fight
korean: oh no(heavy breathe)
Korea? What is it? Do you mean west Japan?
@@m.jauharilmizulfannabila9145 no, it's Chosun Governor-General
@@dimmorashuvant3784 you didn't get it
@@m.jauharilmizulfannabila9145 Korea Josean not west japan ! you are ignorant man.
@@m.jauharilmizulfannabila9145 Says south Netherland
The Japanese army uniforms are awesome
I agree
I agree gun number 2 uniform number 1
that's what happens when you think the world evolves around you and you don't have to change even when the world around you gets stronger.
Glory to the Imperial Japanese Army! 🇯🇵
As a Filipino whose ancestors probably fought as a guerilla fighting the Japanese, i too support the IJA
@@il1680 imagine being such a weeaboo that you support the army that massacred your people and committed such atrocities, your Guerrilla warrior ancestors must be turning in their graves.
what anime is this?
how is this an anime
not an anime but a movie that takes in the first sino japanese war
Japan war anime this is great anime
Adrian Slocumb - It's a joke you dumbass.
KanColle
I'm not impressed by the history explained here, but I really impessed by so many film references that you have
I love Japanese the warrior and trending nation till today
|ｮ・ω・`）
NHKの坂の上の雲の抜粋かな？
Thank you for providing and introducing the video.
Battle ships like Mikasa appeared at the time of Russo-Japanese war, So this video is not correct. Rather, Japanese fleet were smaller than Sino fleet, and looked like weaker than Sino fleet.
Japanese fleet were able to excuted whole Sino fleet by the tactic that all ships united to the same high speed.
And because the Beiyang Fleet was super corrupt, poorly trained and got abandoned by the Nanyang Fleet.
This video is made by clips combined from many war videos, not just the ones that portraying Sino-Japanese War 1894. Some of them are taken from Russo-Japanese War movie and even the Last Samurai.
Thank you for the correction. The Japanese navy really had no battleships like the 2 german built battleships China had. The Japanese were very worried and the rest of the world all expected them to lose. But to their surprise, the Chinese navy lost because of sheer incompetence and corruption.
Mikasa from aot
@@originalleirvag7841 I knew a weeb would show up and say that
Manchu Qing Dynasty v.s Japanese Meiji Empire at Joseon Land.
Love from the Philippines 🇵🇭
Mabuhay kayo!
Kanino ka kampi
@@jmgonzales7701 hehe siyempre dun sa Manchu Qing Dynasty of China, they defended the Joseon Kingdom of Korea.
@@markanthonymianacyberworld420 haha kala ko sa meiji la kampi eh. Grabe kasi yung meiji restoration talagang nag westernize and modernize ang japan kaya lumakas.
@@jmgonzales7701 haha kaya nga pero i like the strategy of Japan
Philosophically, a Chinese against a Japanese is like a giant spider against an army ant: one on one, the ant will probably lose. But a nest full of giant spiders vs a colony of army ants will have a very different outcome: the ants will tear all of the spiders to pieces. The evidence of this is shown in the Sino -Japanese War.
Ants are the most successful species in the world.
They have been living on the earth since the time of dinosaurs.
The wonders of good equipment, training and leadership or lack thereof.
Al-Fatihah for General Zuo Baogui 💓
Nice info...
Al fatihah sent.
Too bad for China that they lost very badly, but then again, their military technology was quite held back, unlike Japan's.
AlphaChocolateTruffle Qing China had the upper hand at beginning in terms of navy power but then the corruption court of the Manchu rulers ruined it all basically. The Qing army was a mess compared to Japanese western style army but they did fought very bravely most of the time. Truth is at that time Japan is a far more advanced and powerful nation than Qing China.
I have no doubt that the Qing Chinese army fought bravely, despite their problems, they weren't cowards. Alas, they were let down big time by their political and military leaders which is often why nations lose wars.
Cuz chinese always curruption
@@gangwu4541 yes. Qing have more warships at the start of the war. Their officers are well educated in naval warfare and able to speak english, japanese, german etc. But their sailor are completely mess. Lack of training in naval battle, lack of discipline, and lack of supply & ammunition. While on the other hand, japan only have handful of warships but their officers are educated and the sailors also trained in sea warfare.
Chinese court culture was a huge pool of corruption from the beginning
Where did you get all these neat movies to make your videos? I wish my collection had half of the war movies you do.
平和のみ祈らなければでもお国の為に捧げた全魂敬礼合掌すこの時代に敬礼合掌
日清戦争と日露戦争の映像がごちゃ混ぜになってるな。
捏造映像。大日本帝国の情報操作と同じ。
谷口純一
アロー戦争と太平天国の映像もあるし
谷口純一 それな。
AlphaChocolateTruffle ditto?
侍の戦いかたがまだ残っていた時
侍の魂、精神を重んじていた時だから
強かった日本
もしそうなら、アメリカが日本に原子爆弾を落としたとき、彼らはサムライの戦闘スタイルも持っていましたか？
@@reformedheart 意味不明で草
@@hhutrf1941 日本は過去に侵略者でした。日本には間違いを認める勇気がありません。これは弱いものであり、強いものではありません。私たちはすべての日本人を憎むべきではありませんが、それらの歴史的な侵略者を憎みます。同時に、侵略の歴史を認めたくない、あるいは認める勇気を持たない日本人を非難しなければなりません。彼らは他の国への攻撃は良い行動だとさえ考えています。したがって、強い国が弱い国を攻撃して侮辱することができるならば、日本が他の国より弱いときに日本は侵略されるべきでしょうか？
what a joke
@@reformedheartうん。持ってた
ちらっと「北京の55日」が混じっているような・・・。
2:22~海戦まで
I bet you Qing would lost their mandate of heaven after this
(EU4 references)
Would it make that much of a difference had the Qing won the 1894 Sino-Japanese war? I haven’t seen a lot of alternate history video about this yet. The spendings on the temples and palaces instead of on the military did do something bad.
seems made from at least 4 different movies. the ones i recognize are 55 days at pekin, the sino japanese war at sea and the meji emperor and the russian war
This battle is one of the moments that Qing dynasty in China began to fall.
0:25 japanese drum beat 🥁🥁🥁❤️❤️
Great Japanese emmpire. tenno heika banzai. 🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵⛩️⛩️⛩️
当時のリアルな平壌は、この映画で描かれているような立派な街では無い。写真では城壁を持つスラム街だったはずだ。
藁ぶきの小屋が並び、道は糞尿だらけで不衛生極まりない国、平均
寿命が25歳の国民を50歳に引き上げ、30年間の間に人口を２倍にしたのはどこの国だったのか、よく考え見よ。
It was a war between Japan and China, but the battlefield was Korea.
It's a sad history...
Korea was more of a vessel for a big period in history so it is ok.
Korea was the Poland of Asia
@@mustard4762 it still is. Divided
CHINA IS LIKE THE SUGAR DADDY OF NORTH KOREA LOL
@@valROFL It was Goryeo before it got annexed by the Chinese
ばかにリアルで映画なのか実写なのか区別がつかないほど。今とでは人間その物が違うと改めて実感。
This is great quality footage for 1894
0:43 Oh yeah that is not Chinese that crouching shooting at Japan. It was a boxer rebellion film named "55 Days At Peking" sometimes it gets so wrong if you make it
That scene was from the movie opium war
0:34 the audio is synced with the cannon lmao
今の政府が壊れて欲しい日本は またこんな強い国作りたい
じゃあお前が革命起こして作れよ
今の方が強いやろ。戦争せずに世界No.3やん
壊れる過程でどれだけの犠牲が出るか分かってんですかねぇ？その犠牲になるのは我々一般市民なんですけど
一人で勝手に壊れてくださいな
다시오면 이젠 포방부가 가만 안둘꺼다
@@coffeedranker3146 しかし、世界の秒の4分の1
1:33 which music is this?
Tora tora tora! By han zimmer
I can't help but notice the explosions are in sync with the music beats
A definite victory !!!!
Banzai 🇨🇵❤🇯🇵
The Japanese uniforms looks westernish while the qing are tradional style. Westernization really hit the qing hard
There needs to be a disclaimer in this video since it compiles a lot of videos from film and drama that has nothing to do with the First Sino Japanese War.
2:35かっこよすぎ、るろうに剣心み出てきた船みたい
日露戦争
あれは1868年だから あれは架空ね
I like the song for the first half of the video alot ❤
A war is invariably determined by the possession of a sophisticated system, encompassing the political environment, financial support, and the ethical values of the populace, rather than being solely reliant on military equipment and weapons. During the Qing era, however, there were no winning elements in this particular instance. Hongzhang Li was acutely aware of this reality, prompting him to eschew military conflict with Japan and instead opt for diplomatic resolution. Nevertheless, he placed excessive reliance on Russia, demonstrating a misjudgment of the situation. His overemphasis on personal relationships as a deciding factor also reflects a significant weakness in Chinese culture, a flaw that can still be observed in contemporary China.
Watching the Qing on battleships is weird. It's like looking at people wearing clothing not out of place in 1700, in a ship that wouldn't look out of place in WW2.
These Japanese soldier’s movie is picked up from “二百三高地”. So they are battling the Russian army.
And so its the 1904 war then.
This is the Japanese-Qing War. If this war defined as the Sino-Japanese War. Then this should be the Third Sino-Japanese War. The first occurred in 663 AD and the second occurred in 1592 AD.
Ironically enough, the Sino-Japanese War in 1592 helped to weaken the Ming dynasty that ruled China at the time so it seems that the Japanese had a hand in weakening TWO ruling dynasties in China throughout history.
news bad It was Korea, China under the Ming dynasty help the Korean against Japanese invasion ordered by Toyotomi. 663AD, Korea was unified but rebellions occurred and Japan help them by 27000 troop and sending back a royal hostage to become a puppet ruler. Japan failed.
Rebellion korean supported by japanese 27000?? Do you write a fiction?? 1592-1597 the war korea-japanese war! The war begun from japanese invasion but any rebellion in Korean didnt exist because Choseon(dynasty Korea) was too cenralized by king’s power. As korean, plz study more pricisely
lol as you know the history , you should know Chinese don’t look like as your news media advertised before 1683 AD completely
@@guillonpark4733 How did the Joseon exist in 663? He was referring to the Baekje-Tang War!
nice camera bro
Love the imperial Japanese uniform!
Japanese people's ancestors were very brave & smart, they could not only fight Qing, but also Russia & British empire. However, now they are nothing but another colony of USA.
1:07 ラストサムライ入ってんぞ
それどころか【坂の上の雲】
Kのファンタジー、ココに極まり･･･
著作権、肖像権は何処に？
ハハハ 、 お前ら おうちへ 帰ろ
Ah yes tom cruise
4:16 ロシア人の死体山になってる件について(笑)
これ、完全に背景がおかしいでしょw
그거 인정
映画203高地の映像を使ってますからね。
I would like to know which movie 1:57 came from.
While Japan was flourishing India was doing the opposite. I wish Aurangzeb had never applied those rules which disunited India and if the British never ruled then India would have been an amazing country like Japan
If that happens, India will be like China.
Japan did not officially annex Korea until 1910. However, as a result of the Russo-Japanese war, Japan began the process of colonizing Korea in 1905. As for the first Sino-Japanese war, Japan and Qing Dynasty agreed that Korea should be an “independent” country, but in reality, Japan just wanted to increase their influence over the Korean Peninsula, by kicking the Chinese out... Nevertheless, it is certain that this war and the following war marked the beginning of Imperial Japan’s oppression towards the East Asian nations.
Japan did not occupy any nations but expelled Westen Imperialism from East Asian countries, making them independent from the colonization. Which country did Japan colonize?
@@kennabi5320 Let me name a few: Korea, parts of China, Manchuria, Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Burma, Philippines, Taiwan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, etc...
@@kennabi5320 Ah yes because it's not like Japan killed 5 million Filipinos. Nope nope
@@kennabi5320 진짜 몰라서하는말이냐 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 미치겠네
@@condedooku9750 정답.
what name of the movie?
please tell me
the japanese fleet commander got a better tactics and strategies to fight at the sea, they must studied a lots in regard of sea battle -------- british vs french in late 1600s, admiral ----Nelson was the hero, japanese naval officials spent tons of time, years to studied nelson's attack theory. they earned the victory.
Edhaje what’s the name of the music in your deleted video about the Meiji Restoration?
Edhaje is probably my favorite history channel
Imagine if Ireland beat Britain, I have a feeling that would be possible
How would they have beaten britain
@@jmgonzales7701 Suffocate em with potat
@@yansen1568 lmao
As an Irish person let me tell you about the Irish war for independence
@@yansen1568 And also drown them with whisky
Quite modern looking battleships. I didn't know they attained that style so soon.
It is because of some of those scenes are from the Battle of Tsushima Strait, while the other should be from the Battle of Yalu River.
A hundred years of national humiliation on China... Eventually achieved her today’s modernization 😶
Communists ruined Chinese culture, the nationalists and monarchists should have won
@@MicahRdr I doubt they would have ruled better
One question: Was this just some kinda of movie, or is it just real footage?
这就是电影啊，当时日本还没可以摄影的东西😂
北京の55日の画像も少しありましたね。坂の上の雲のNHK版もありますよ。
"北京の55日". You have "good eyes." Amazing!!! That was also a very bad time for China.
The Japanese military made many great contributions to human civilization. Defeating China many times was a great contribution to humanity.
Long live the EMPIRE OF JAPAN 🇯🇵 🗾💪🏻
日清戦争ですね。開国してたったの20年ほどで列強諸国と肩を並べるほどまで上り詰めた大日本帝国の
当時がよく伝わります。この頃が一番強かったのかもしれないですね。
この時代の軍事費はじつは世界一なんですよ。0から近代化だったせいで・・・
日本は米国を除いてどの国にも負けたことはありません。
@@kennabi5320 日本 は ソ連 に 負け た . 彼ら は 共産 主義 の 蔓延 を 恐れ て アメリカ に 降伏 し た .
@@jinvonastrea1141 いつソ連に負けましたか？
The annexation was in 1910 not 1905
Yuna유나 - LOL
True
Yuna유나 - I’m pretty sure it was in 1905
1910년이 맞긴 하지만 1905년도 아주 틀린 말은 아닌데...
yes. not Colony
"annexation"
very nice!
As a Russian I'll say the Japanese army is much stronger than the Chinese army
perfect music match
There are people who were protected because they fought, I'm proud of them as people from the same country.
（彼らが戦ってくれたおかげで守られた人々が居ます、同じ国の人として誇りに思います）
what are the movies used in this video I know a few clips from the Last Samurai are used but what about the others?
Shoutout to the camera man who film this whole movie
Imagine losing to a smaller force
No embarrassment. No Chinese would want to fight for a foreign ruler. They hated the Manchu. Whereas the Japanese were fighting for their own Emperor.
定遠と三笠が戦っているのが面白いw
ミカサ
@@のぎ-x5o 戦う！戦う！！戦う！！！
Where Eren and Armin?
@@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622 2：30から 日清戦争・義和団事件・日露戦争の切り取りだらけだな
Strictly speaking, it's not the first war between Chinese and Japanese, the first is in 663 AD in Chinese Tang (618-907AD) Dynasty.
Were there other before 663 AD?
China naturally had good performance against Japan in hand to hand warfare pre-modern. it was only when Japan modernized their military that China started losing badly. In the Tang and Ming dynasty wars against Japan, their expeditionary forces shocked the Japanese because they always believed the Chinese troops to be inexperienced compared to their samurai veterans. Partly also because China can generally have stronger heavier infantry/cavalry. Ancient China was used to going toe-to-toe with equal sized countries so Japanese invasions were minor to them.
@@Samperor From my knowledge, maybe no
@@Jake-dh9qk Well-concluded👀
@@Jake-dh9qk even then the Japanese consider Chinese as an inferior race?
i’m sorry for chinese and russian people,but we had needed those wars because of protection for Japan
Would you mind enlighten me how aggression towards other countries can protect your own? What would make Japan disappear by not attacking others? I'm curious🤔
No.
What is the name of the movie?
pearl harbour movie soundtrack..
Aka Hans Zimmer - Attack or Pearl Harbour